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Title: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on September 12, 2013, 12:41:13 pm
20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men

By Kareem Abdul-Jabbar



Why should a young man listen to an old guy about the best way to become a man? Because the typical teen is not yet able to see a future past the next few months. That’s not a fault of character, but the fact that teens’ brains have not yet physically matured. The pre-fontal cortex (PFC) does not fully develop in most people until they’re twenty-four years old. Yet, the PFC is responsible for regulating mood, attention span, impulse control, and the ability to plan ahead and understand the consequences of one’s actions. In the meantime, it’s up to the adults to guide them by showing them possible consequences—good and bad—of their behavior. With that in mind, here’s my guide to becoming a man:

1. Learn who you are as an individual.

Figuring out who you are, what you care about, what you believe in, and what you stand for is the most important—and most difficult—challenge of becoming a man. We’re all raised with people telling us what to think, how to act, and what to say. Sometimes those people are parents, teachers, ministers, and other so-called authorities. Sometimes they are our friends and peers. Most of the time, given the choice, we seek the easiest path, the path of least resistance. We go along to get along. Sometimes that’s okay. But it’s those instances when you opt for a different path that can really define you as an individual. The important thing is you make those decisions for yourself—not out of spite against authority figures, or because of peer pressure, or even out of fear of losing someone’s affection—but out of conviction of who you are and who you want to be.

2. Stand up for yourself and your beliefs.

British statesman Edmund Burke once said, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." That’s one of my favorite quotes because it reminds me that it’s not enough to have lofty ideals and beliefs, you sometimes have to actually get off the couch and defend those beliefs. This is especially hard when you’re hanging with your friends and they all express an opinion that is the opposite of yours. Because you’re outnumbered, it’s easy for them to ridicule your opinion. Be strong. Defend your opinions and beliefs. If you think it’s wrong to be racist but someone in your group says something racist (or sexist, or ant-Semitic, or anti-gay), then tell them you don’t agree and that you don’t think they should make such statements. That’s how these verbal bullies are eventually defeated. More important, you’ll feel proud that you took a stand. Those moments you do nothing will haunt you for a long time.


3. Avoid a physical fight—if you can.

You’re probably thinking, “That’s easy for you to say, Kareem. You’re 7’1” so nobody wants to mess with you.” That wasn’t always true. When I was a young boy, I was bullied. And my dad was a cop, so that made it even more embarrassing. Later in life, I took up martial arts and even trained with my good friend Bruce Lee. That’s why you can trust me when I say that fighting is almost always a mistake. There’s a Chinese proverb that says, “The man who throws the first punch has lost the argument.” That means that when an argument turns into a fight, it’s because the one starting the fight realizes he isn’t smart enough to win verbally, so he resorts to violence. It’s always the dumbest guy who resorts to violence.

What do you do if someone threatens you with violence? You walk away, even run away if necessary. Even if you’re pretty sure you could take him. Bad things can happen in a fight, even if no one means them to. Someone can take an unexpected fall and crack his head open. Teeth can be knocked out. Facial bones can be cracked. And all the crying later about how “it was an accident!” won’t change that.

So, if you’re threatened, leave and tell your parents. Some people are of the belief that you should just go right after the bully, fighting him to show you’re not afraid. While this works well in movies, it doesn’t work as well in real life. These days violence tends to beget violence. The bully doesn’t just slink away, he returns with a baseball bat—or worse. You can still stand up for yourself without resorting to violence: that’s what Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Jr., Cesar Chavez, the Buddha, and Jesus did.

The only time you should fight is if there is no other recourse. You can’t run, you can’t talk your way out of it. If that’s the case, hit first, either in the nose (sometimes the blood will discourage further fighting) or the crotch (because the pain will make it hard for him to chase you). One punch and then run.

4. Play a team sport.

I’m all for individual sports—as I mentioned, I did martial arts for many years and also yoga. (Don’t think it’s a sport? Try it!) But playing on a team teaches you how to interact with others, adjust to various personalities, work together as a team, be generous, and many other character-building traits. The cool part is that you don’t have to join an organized team; you can just go down to the playground or open gym and play pick-up basketball or volleyball.

5. Choose your friends for the right reasons.

Good friends can see you through a lot of the tough parts of growing up. But bad friends can actually be the cause some of those tough parts. Don’t hang out with kids just to piss off your parents or try to be something that you’re not. You waste a lot of your youth that way—and miss out of some meaningful friendships.

6. Fight your fear of the unknown.

We all have a tendency to hate what we don’t understand, whether it comes in the form of different food, different cultures, or different ideas. There was a Yale study in which researchers examined the brains of people as they were presented with proof that an opinion they held was wrong. MRIs showed that when those people immediately rejected the new evidence, their brains released an addictive chemical that made them feel good. In that way our own bodies are actually encouraging our ignorance and fear. Fight that impulse. Becoming a man means growing, learning, and understanding—not cowering under a blanket with a handful of comforting notions.

(By the way, don’t confuse physical bravery with intellectual bravery. It’s easier to jump out of a plane—hopefully with a parachute—than it is to change your mind about an opinion. Acts of physical bravado will give you an initial rush, but exploring a new culture or examining a new idea will mature you and make you the kind of person others will be interested in.)


7. Listen to advice.

Whatever troubles and doubts you’re facing, billions of guys before you have gone through the same thing. Your dad probably knows exactly how you feel most of the time because he can remember the same pain and anxiety. Listening to people’s advice doesn’t always mean taking it. You have to decide which advice is right for you. But it might be a good idea to collect some quotes from those who came before you so you can refer to them when you need to.

I’m going to get you started with one of my favorites from philosopher George Santayana: “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." That means that if you don’t learn from the experiences of others and yourself, you will end up making the same mistakes over and over. So, when someone gives you advice, don’t dismiss it just because they’re older than you.

8. Be politically aware.

One clear difference between children and adults is an awareness of your community outside your circle of friends and family. The world is constantly changing. Whether it changes for the better or the worse depends on the actions of those willing to get involved. Kids who don’t know anything about their world try to hide it by saying, “I don’t really care. It doesn’t affect me.” But that just confirms that they wish to remain children and have adults tell them what to do and think. Part of being a man is to be informed so you are prepared to take an active and responsible place in your society. Read newspapers, magazines, watch the news. Discuss these subjects with your friends, but always while respecting each other’s opinions.

9. Mind your manners.

When you’re a kid being told to firmly shake hands, keep your elbows off the table, or ask guests if they’d like a drink, it all seems like a load of dumb and arbitrary rules. Some of it is. But part of becoming a man is the realization that it doesn’t matter whether or not the rules of manners make sense. What matters is the effect of following these rules: people appreciate the effort and respect shown them. In turn, they will show you respect.


10. Be patient in love.

Most of the information boys have about girls is WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! It’s based on stereotypes, rumors, bad songs, shallow teen movies, and immature celebrities in personal tailspins. The worst thing you can do in looking to find a significant other is to try to change yourself into something you’re not just because you think that’s what girls are looking for. It doesn’t work.

The best way to get an idea of what’s attractive to girls is to talk to them. Like a girl? Get to know her, ask her about herself, then show her you’ve been listening to what she says. Did she mention a book she likes? Send her an article about the book. It’s low-key, non-stalkerish, and shows you care what she talks about.

11. Stay fit.

It’s hard for all those teenage boys with turbo-charged metabolisms to understand that their bodies will not always be evaporating the masses of greasy calories they consume. They can eat a pizza and a tub of ice cream, then run three miles. They can’t imagine that will ever change, even when you show them photos of their lean dads’ as teens and they look at the potbellies that have miraculously appeared later. But eating somewhat healthily and maintaining an exercise regimen will not only help fight off diseases and aging, they’ll also help ensure an active lifestyle for many years. In other words, the body is like any machine: It may run great when it's new, but after years of neglect it will slow down, and eventually break down. Then you’re the one vegging on the sofa while your pals are playing pick-up ball at the gym.

12. Never, never do something on a dare.

“I dare you” may be the three most dangerous words in the language for kids. The challenge to prove yourself to others is very tempting, especially since the alternative seems to be showing yourself to be a coward. But that’s not really the case. The person who dares you is counting on your not being strong or smart enough to see this challenge as the empty, laughable joke it is. The person who refuses a dare displays intelligence, courage, and independence. And that’s what daring someone is trying to rob them of.

13. Get organized.

One main difference between a boy and a man is that boys talk about what they want to do and men actually do those things. Another difference is that men have less time to accomplish more. In order to do all the things they want, they have to be organized. They keep a calendar (the one in your smart phone is handy), they make a to-do list, and they don’t put off doing things until later. Being organized can change your life: you do more things you want to do, you finish things you need to finish, and you have more time to pursue new activities and relationships. In general, you will be much more successful.

14. Find heroes to copy.

There are so many worthwhile people to look up to and try to emulate. People from history. Even characters in books and movies. The trick is in picking the right people for the right reasons. Skip most sports, music, and movie/TV celebrities. It’s not that they aren’t nice people, but the fact that they’re successful and make a lot of money doesn’t make them wise. Often, it’s just the opposite. They pursued fame and glory so single-mindedly that they have no other interests and minimal education. Many are woefully misinformed about current events, yet at the same time frequently offering their weak, misinformed opinions. Don’t make the mistake of believing that just because a person can act or sing, he or she also has valuable insights into politics or culture. Find heroes—real or fictional—that embody the values that you want to have, not the bank account.

15. Be independent.

A man can take care of his own daily needs. In fact, he wants to. Make your bed, do your laundry, learn to cook, hang up your clothes. Slovenliness is the sign of an immature mind. The sooner you start doing things for yourself, the sooner you will have the respect of others—and of yourself.

16. Question authority.

Respect your elders but don’t think them infallible. Teachers, parents, relatives, politicians, and well-meaning guys like me really do want what’s best for you. But we aren’t always right. Even when presenting supposed “facts,” people can be misleading in an effort to manipulate you into being who they want you to be or doing what they want you to do. History is filled with politicians misrepresenting “facts” in order to convince the population to back rash policies. Teachers sometimes aren’t caught up on the latest research. To be your own man, you will have to make up your own mind about things.

17. Get smart.

Making up your own mind doesn’t mean “going with your gut,” “listening to your heart,” or any other such clichés, however. That’s the lazy man’s way of avoiding the work that comes with developing an informed opinion. Want to express an opinion about the election, the death penalty, or gay marriage? First, do your research. Don’t rely on biased sources. Your goal is to find the truth, not just confirm an opinion you already held. Every time you express an uninformed opinion, others will dismiss you as a child, someone who can only parrot others’ opinions. A man knows how to educate himself in pursuit of truth.


18. Express yourself.

Go ahead, dye your hair purple. Grow it long, shave it off. Wear all black, wear all white, wear boots, wear leather, wear a dress. This is the time to try on new identities to see which ones fit you best. Sure, you might have to endure some taunts, but it’s more important that you figure out who you are than caring what those shut-ins of the mind think.

(A word of caution: avoid doing anything permanent, like tattoos, because, just your taste in clothes, hair styles, music, your thoughts about pretty much everything will change. What you think is really deep and insightful today will seem shallow and immature in a few years. And you don’t want something you will later think is childish permanently etched on your body.)

19. Pay attention to the short run….

People who care about you are always talking about your future: what courses to take for your career, what sports will help you get into college, what to look for in the person you’re going to marry. All that stuff is important to think about. But don’t let planning for your future consume your present. Do some things just because they’re fun now. Take that art appreciation class just because it would be fun to learn about it. Play Injustice just to see Wonder Woman kick Batman’s ass. Read those Deadpool comic books just because they’re wickedly funny.

20. …But keep your eye on the long run.

Most of what’s important to you now won’t be in a few years. Friends will change. Priorities will shift. That can be a pretty scary prospect. Most boys are afraid of growing into their nightmare version of an adult: the flaccid, self-righteous, humorless sack of meat dumped on the couch shouting commands or barking advice that begins, “When I was your age….” Don’t worry, it doesn’t have to turn out that way. Another favorite quote of mine is from Thomas Jefferson: “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.” He meant that the cost of freedom is to always be watching for someone wanting to take that freedom away, but a variation of that quote can apply here: “The price of being a man is eternal vigilance.” Know who you are, what you stand for, watch for any assaults on your principles, but always be open to change if the evidence warrants it.



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Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Battle on September 12, 2013, 05:00:14 pm
Wow. :)


Kareem Abdul-Jabbar knows or reads comicbooks.   
I wish he was my dad!
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Maxine Shaw on September 22, 2013, 12:15:38 pm
Not enough Kareems in the black community. Waaaaaay too many Steve Harveys and Bill Cosbys. The only nitpick I have is #10, as we have plenty of LGBT children. The same advice can be used in same-sex relationships, but it would have been nice for Kareem to have said so.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on September 24, 2013, 10:00:38 pm
The only nitpick I have is #10, as we have plenty of LGBT children. The same advice can be used in same-sex relationships, but it would have been nice for Kareem to have said so.

Why would you expect that from a devout Muslim?
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Maxine Shaw on September 25, 2013, 08:25:59 am
Why would you expect that from a devout Muslim?

I expect that from anybody who isn't a prick. If you're going to speak to boys, speak to ALL boys, not just the boys your savior deems worthy.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on September 25, 2013, 02:16:09 pm
Why would you expect that from a devout Muslim?

I expect that from anybody who isn't a prick. If you're going to speak to boys, speak to ALL boys, not just the boys your savior deems worthy.

To avoid prickdom one must disavow their religous beliefs?
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on September 26, 2013, 07:56:18 am
Why would you expect that from a devout Muslim?

I expect that from anybody who isn't a prick. If you're going to speak to boys, speak to ALL boys, not just the boys your savior deems worthy.

To avoid prickdom one must disavow their religous beliefs?
One might begin with the simple acknowledgment that not everyone believes as one does.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on September 26, 2013, 01:33:19 pm
Why would you expect that from a devout Muslim?

I expect that from anybody who isn't a prick. If you're going to speak to boys, speak to ALL boys, not just the boys your savior deems worthy.

To avoid prickdom one must disavow their religous beliefs?
One might begin with the simple acknowledgment that not everyone believes as one does.

Exactly, meaning that a humble, deferential and sensitive individual like Jabaar( Comments about Howard withstanding 8)) shouldn't have to qualify the statement in question. There was no malice or callous indifference involved, he simply referenced his beliefe system in the most innocous terms.

I mean I readily acknowledge that you don't believe as I do on certain topics; thus making you automatically wrong; but I don't hold it against you.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on September 26, 2013, 01:58:45 pm
Why would you expect that from a devout Muslim?

I expect that from anybody who isn't a prick. If you're going to speak to boys, speak to ALL boys, not just the boys your savior deems worthy.

To avoid prickdom one must disavow their religous beliefs?
One might begin with the simple acknowledgment that not everyone believes as one does.

Exactly, meaning that a humble, deferential and sensitive individual like Jabaar( Comments about Howard withstanding 8)) shouldn't have to qualify the statement in question. There was no malice or callous indifference involved, he simply referenced his beliefe system in the most innocous terms.
Maxine is fully capable of speaking for herself but I see no accusation of malice. More so casual indifference or perhaps lack of awareness.

I mean I readily acknowledge that you don't believe as I do on certain topics; thus making you automatically wrong; but I don't hold it against you.
And lack of humility can lead one to behave like a condescending prick. IMHO, of course. After all, I could be wrong...  ;)
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on September 26, 2013, 05:11:12 pm
Why would you expect that from a devout Muslim?

I expect that from anybody who isn't a prick. If you're going to speak to boys, speak to ALL boys, not just the boys your savior deems worthy.

To avoid prickdom one must disavow their religous beliefs?
One might begin with the simple acknowledgment that not everyone believes as one does.



I mean I readily acknowledge that you don't believe as I do on certain topics; thus making you automatically wrong; but I don't hold it against you.
And lack of humility can lead one to behave like a condescending prick. IMHO, of course. After all, I could be wrong...  ;)

You're wrong 90% of the time but why bother counting. 8)
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on September 27, 2013, 07:27:00 am
2. Stand up for yourself and your beliefs.





Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on September 27, 2013, 07:05:45 pm
6. Fight your fear of the unknown.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on September 27, 2013, 08:14:15 pm
21. TROLL til the wheels fall off.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Maxine Shaw on September 29, 2013, 10:33:19 am
One might begin with the simple acknowledgment that not everyone believes as one does.

Well, we're not worried about THOSE boys, I'm sure. Just the boys who kiss girls. The rest? f*ck 'em!

I've had a good number of LGBT students over the years, and one who is transgender, so this is a serious issue for me. Heteronormativity is not a good thing. President Obama recently did a fabulous job of being all-inclusive.

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Keep setting an example for what it means to be a man. Be the best husband to your wife or your boyfriend or your partner. Be the best father you can be to your children. Because nothing is more important.

(snip)

As Morehouse Men, many of you know what it’s like to be an outsider, know what it’s like to be marginalized, know what it’s like to feel the sting of discrimination. And that’s an experience that a lot of Americans share. Hispanic Americans know that feeling when somebody asks them where they come from or tell them to go back. Gay and lesbian Americans feel it when a stranger passes judgment on their parenting skills or the love that they share. Muslim Americans feel it when they’re stared at with suspicion because of their faith. Any woman who knows the injustice of earning less pay for doing the same work — she knows what it’s like to be on the outside looking in.

See? Wasn't even that hard. Shame on anybody who is trying to argue that this is a bad thing, especially where our children are involved. If there is one thing I've learned about when it comes to working with children, it's that your beliefs don't mean jack sh*t, not even in a private school setting. If you're going to talk to children, you damn sure better be talking to ALL OF THEM.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on September 29, 2013, 11:17:02 am
Another lesson children can learn is that conflict is a natural state of being and that one shouldn't feel compelled to compromise their ideals for fear of a backlash.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on September 29, 2013, 12:59:27 pm
Or you can do the Malcolm X thang and say only what you want to say at whatever particular time you want to say it and become a black history legend!


Malcolm was hardly cordial most of the time and stepped on toes as often as he chose to long before this "Politically Correct" era!


I think they wrote books and made a movie about his audacity way before President Obama was elected and years later he might out rank Obama in social impact when full evaluations are given by independent parties!


Now let's talk about talking to "ALL" the children of the world because some of them kiddeez are Skinheads in training and Al Queda wanna bes'!


What you really mean is select children classified as some form of "Minority" by you because I would find it hard to believe you are addressing privileged white children unless you have game like that!


Be honest... There are kids somewhere that most of us won't even bother speaking to and have not even tried to schedule such meetings GTFOOHWTS! ;D


The whole Black Panther/Storm concept exposes how many of us feel racially here anyway... Check your past posts people who you really are is found right up in between the wordings!


SOOOOOO...


With that said I have compiled a list of children that are long overdue for your great big sermon on the mount...


1. Isreali Children... Don't let antisemitism get in the way of your speaking to the future of Middle East relations you down low Farrakhan followers you! ::)

2. Rich Pretty White Children... Get your Beverly Hills 90210 on and talk to them spoiled rotten brats they need guidance too before they fire your kids who will no doubt work for their inherited company!!

3. White Militia Mountain Children... Might as well get an early start on the race war relations before they gets to shooting colored folks at random when they grow up so extend an olive branch if you dare!

4. Radical Muslim Terrorists in Training Children... I am anxious to hear how you circumvent there wanting to strap dynamite to their chest and blow you and themselves up in mid speech!

5. Christian Children... Since you don't even go to church in the first place now would be a good time to attend and share your views with the biblically correct!

6. Fanbratti Children... Put your anger over the "Annulment of The Century" aside and address the fanboy raised younglings to help offset the lagging comic sales of black super heroes because the few thousand black fans aint cutting it by no measure of the imagination!

7. Chinese Children... It looks like they will be owning most of the planet soon including Africa so put your Bruce Lee t-shirt on and get your resume ready if you want to eat later in this century!

8. Gangsta (C)rap Children... The blatant neglect shown by black folks over the strip club music era has cost us worldwide credibility as we sing and dance along to arguably the most crappy time in music history which according to a thread in this very forum many of us support vehemently!

9. Black Militant Children... How many passes can you give some of our black leaders who are sometimes way too out there in speech and tone but get mad at every white person that slips the tongue every now and then!

10. Thug Children... No offense to anyone here but American Gangster shows are infatuation with the crime culture even to the demise of our fledgling super hero culture so we as a people have a lot of work to do rather than worry about what the leading scorer in NBA history does in faith!


TROLL ON JABBAR TROLL ON!!!


(I owe Marvell a couple of coins for that)


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Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Maxine Shaw on September 30, 2013, 01:59:17 am
Another lesson children can learn is that conflict is a natural state of being and that one shouldn't feel compelled to compromise their ideals for fear of a backlash.

In other words, just suck it up if you're different. Thank goodness our ancestors didn't feel that way. You're the one who would've insisted that it's okay if we couldn't shop at different stores, because heaven forbid that white people's ideals actually change, especially when they're dead wrong and full of hate. To quote my mother, nobody gives a f*ck what you think.

I'm going to teach children that the ignorant jackasses who turn their backs on them just for being who they are (such as yourself) are disgusting human beings who deserve nothing but the cruelest of ridicule - preferably the kind that involves flying bricks. But with people as hate-filled as you, I know when a discussion is pointless. You might deem it acceptable to turn your back on LGBT children, but I'm a better person than you are. Carry on!
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on September 30, 2013, 08:19:42 am
I have an idea...


How about spending all that energy talking to really athletic young black boys about attending FAMU to play for their football team in the future!


Once again they got beatdown by a superior Ohio State football team with much superior black athletes!


http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/9/21/4755628/ohio-state-florida-am-2013-results-game-recap (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/9/21/4755628/ohio-state-florida-am-2013-results-game-recap)


Ohio State's backup black quarterback set a 6 touchdown record in the first half alone and did not even start the next game as the regular quarterback returned from the injury list!


What this tells me is that FAMU cannot even get a star black quarterback that rides the bench on another team to attend their school and play often even as he sits on the bench now as a senior watching the other guy play more than he does!


He would rather spend four years at a predominantly white university holding a clipboard making signals from the sidelines waiting for the starter to get hurt than put up Air Mcnair type numbers at FAMU... What's wrong with this picture!


This is either a "The Rich Get Richer" problem or a lack of focus on historically black schools that used to send more people to the NFL in the past according to the book Forty Million Dollar Slaves!


Perhaps Kareem should be hired as the head athletic director to help recruit for the FAMU basketball team to get things rolling because it has a been a good minute since an HBCU had a top recruiting class in some sport other than the marching band or the step show!


What's missing is not trying to appease young boys about their lifestyles and acceptance to fit in but about standing up strong in the face of adversity and becoming that super hero that they need to be which goes beyond seeking other people's approval about who they are!


Set your own path if you believe you were born different then be different and stop waiting for everyone or anyone to validate you if that is who you are... If it is truly natural then one should act natural about it!


You get no respect on any level until you earn it legitimately no matter where you come from... This includes men, women, children, blacks, whites, LGBT's or significant others!


My wife grew up in Apartheid, South Africa during rioting and dangerous protests not this small time workplace discrimination where someone gave you the evil eye and you curled up in a ball and ate yourself to obesity for lack of self esteem...



http://youtu.be/aawyALNa-Kk (http://youtu.be/aawyALNa-Kk)



Right now there are potential All American black athletes between the ages of 1 and 10 waiting for a full ride 4 year scholarship to some school to play ball I suggest you get on the phone and help your alma mater out in recruiting instead of talking mess on the last a few websites that allow your vulgarity to be on play in Dolby Surround sound 3D!


Don't act like you have me on ignore all day you know you set the mode to lurk to see what's up with Flex all slick like... Call my son he has almost all A's freshman (2 classes B+ pending) year and has a nasty crossover dribble for FAMU basketball convince him before Stanford or Harvard calls via Hudlin!!!


Kareem: "Salaam Alaikum!"

Flex: "Jabbar? What's up legend?"

Kareem: "I'm calling on behalf of UCLA basketball. I hear your son has game and an awesome academic record. If he goes here he will be close to home and you can see him play."

Flex: "That's great... We are also considering other schools like Princeton, Northwestern and FAMU!"

Kareem: (click)

Flex: "Kareem you still there... HELLO?"
















Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on September 30, 2013, 04:02:46 pm
Another lesson children can learn is that conflict is a natural state of being and that one shouldn't feel compelled to compromise their ideals for fear of a backlash.

In other words, just suck it up if you're different. Thank goodness our ancestors didn't feel that way. You're the one who would've insisted that it's okay if we couldn't shop at different stores, because heaven forbid that white people's ideals actually change, especially when they're dead wrong and full of hate. To quote my mother, nobody gives a f*ck what you think.

I'm going to teach children that the ignorant jackasses who turn their backs on them just for being who they are (such as yourself) are disgusting human beings who deserve nothing but the cruelest of ridicule - preferably the kind that involves flying bricks. But with people as hate-filled as you, I know when a discussion is pointless. You might deem it acceptable to turn your back on LGBT children, but I'm a better person than you are. Carry on!

Interesting.

A lack of advocacy engenders all of these negatives and yet if I were to apply the same to you it would be illegitimate.

Priceless.

Perhaps they could get someone like YOU to write an article in concert with Jabbar's? In that way both sides could be presented without inference of hate being applied to either.

That of course would be too rational for someone like you.

P.S. We should never have shopped at their stores and built our own.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on September 30, 2013, 05:45:10 pm
Jefferson and Jabbar are hereby placed on the I-G-N-O-R-E list along with Flex, Seven, Salustrade, Michael... FRAK it everybody and they momma at HEF! ::)


You know at this pace one can run out of people to engage in healthy conversation with on forums where the ban status are not instituted by Mods who have had enough!


Flying Bricks... How very Martin Luther King of her to send the very best!


Yep... She gone off the deep end somebody catch her!


She's a better person than you Jefferson... At what I don't know but stay tuned as we figure this all out!


"INCOMING!"


(A brick shatters against the HEF wall just missing Jefferson by mere inches... Thank God for the Hood technique reflexes!)



http://youtu.be/Pbp6W4N1N9s (http://youtu.be/Pbp6W4N1N9s)

Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on September 30, 2013, 07:35:23 pm
The expert brick throwing is another lesson handed down from, Mother Shaw, along with her "Nobody gives a !@#$" what you think doctrine!" 8)

The entire premise is so bizarre and irrational it is hard to limit the ways to dismiss it.

If you don't accept, Madame Shaw's, premise then you are a bigot by default. Of course, if you were to say she was anti-Muslim or anti-Christian in equal measure she would dismiss it. Along with the spewing of a few profanities to show just what a shining example the youth should live up to.

Remember kids, the exchange of ideas, especially in an academic environment is useless. If they don't agree with your stance, !@#$ them!
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Maxine Shaw on September 30, 2013, 09:38:35 pm
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Perhaps they could get someone like YOU to write an article in concert with Jabbar's? In that way both sides could be presented without inference of hate being applied to either.


Ahhh, I see the problem. You're illiterate! At no point did I say that Kareem was hateful. All I said that it would be nice for a man of his stature to include LGBT as well. You were the one, in all of your anti-gay glory, to trip over yourself to defend your bias against gay children.

If you don't accept, Madame Shaw's, premise then you are a bigot by default.


Not everybody. Just you.

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Of course, if you were to say she was anti-Muslim or anti-Christian in equal measure she would dismiss it.


I'm neither anti-Muslim, nor anti-Christian. Even better, you have provided no proof that Kareem is anti-gay rights. I'm 3rd generation Catholic, and my grandmother, mother and I are all pro-choice and pro-gay marriage. So stop speaking for anybody other than your bigoted self.

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Along with the spewing of a few profanities to show just what a shining example the youth should live up to.


Go f*ck your mother. I don't see you out here in the trenches. If you think I'm so terrible, then get off your bigoted ass, go to college, get certified, go BACK to college for your graduate degree (which more school districts are requiring nowadays), then go to the raggediest piece of sh*t school district in your neighborhood, because that's where the rookie teachers have to go. Go there and bust your ass for $40,000 a year while those kids AND their parents eat your punk ass alive. If you're not willing to do all of those things...

YOU NEED TO SHUT THE f*ck UP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc_LIR5ExIU#)

Do I come to the chicken shack and tell you how to do your job? No? Then shut the f*ck up about mine.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: BmoreAkuma on October 01, 2013, 04:34:40 am
I wont lie Flex I would do the same if I have boy or girl. I would convince them to go to Morgan State instead and while they are being stars in their sport they are earning their degree in engineering.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on October 01, 2013, 09:59:32 am
Go do what to your mother? :o


As a TROLL myself even I have limits that I won't cross that's a bridge burning blessing blocking statement right there!


What kids do you help with that type of vulgarity in the trenches or anywhere else for that matter?


Thoughts...










Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on October 01, 2013, 02:58:22 pm
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Perhaps they could get someone like YOU to write an article in concert with Jabbar's? In that way both sides could be presented without inference of hate being applied to either.


Ahhh, I see the problem. You're illiterate! At no point did I say that Kareem was hateful. All I said that it would be nice for a man of his stature to include LGBT as well. You were the one, in all of your anti-gay glory, to trip over yourself to defend your bias against gay children.

If you don't accept, Madame Shaw's, premise then you are a bigot by default.


Not everybody. Just you.

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Of course, if you were to say she was anti-Muslim or anti-Christian in equal measure she would dismiss it.


I'm neither anti-Muslim, nor anti-Christian. Even better, you have provided no proof that Kareem is anti-gay rights. I'm 3rd generation Catholic, and my grandmother, mother and I are all pro-choice and pro-gay marriage. So stop speaking for anybody other than your bigoted self.

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Along with the spewing of a few profanities to show just what a shining example the youth should live up to.


Go f*ck your mother. I don't see you out here in the trenches. If you think I'm so terrible, then get off your bigoted ass, go to college, get certified, go BACK to college for your graduate degree (which more school districts are requiring nowadays), then go to the raggediest piece of sh*t school district in your neighborhood, because that's where the rookie teachers have to go. Go there and bust your ass for $40,000 a year while those kids AND their parents eat your punk ass alive. If you're not willing to do all of those things...

YOU NEED TO SHUT THE f*ck UP ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc_LIR5ExIU#[/url])

Do I come to the chicken shack and tell you how to do your job? No? Then shut the f*ck up about mine.


So much idiocy and so little time. 8)

1. Hypocrisy- You clearly took the exclusion as a point of hate as evidenced by your comments toward me. Although, given your irrational outbursts logic seems irrelevant to much of your rants. Jabbar left them out, I STATED THAT SOMEONE LIKE YOU SHOULD BE GIVEN EQUAL TIME TO BRING THEM IN! The pertinent point is that Jabbar shouldn't be compelled to take a position that is diametrically opposed to his theology.

2. Catholic AKA Non-Believer- This explains it all. The Catholic church has very little to do with scripture whatsoever. A casual reading of the word would cause any believer with a modicum of sense to flee from the Vatican. What makes this is even better is that you hold views that are opposed to the most fundamental aspects of Biblical faith,  while STILL calling yourself a believer, and I'M the one in error.

I can't think of how hard your delusion must be to call yourself a believer when the text you base your faith on calls you a liar!

3. FAIL- I've been working with the neediest children in Brooklyn for 13 years. From the United Ways CAPS program which inspired me to become active in teaching. I taught ELA and Math classes in the midst of a hiring freeze. Transitioning from that to teaching in the Public school system for the past 7 years in the most challenging districts outside of designation 75.

I have multiple CST certifications including Students with disabilities. A test so hard by the way that most education majors fail to pass on the first 2 tries.

But yeah, you got me on this issue!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

Ahhh, Shaw, you've done it again!

Please bring forth more of your ignorance, irrationality and boundless vitriol.

I truly enjoy it.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on October 01, 2013, 03:02:08 pm
Go do what to your mother? :o


As a TROLL myself even I have limits that I won't cross that's a bridge burning blessing blocking statement right there!


What kids do you help with that type of vulgarity in the trenches or anywhere else for that matter?


Thoughts...

When the 2 generations of Shaw women come together to have Bible study tomorrow the topic will be , The Jezebel spirit is your friend! 8)
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on October 01, 2013, 03:35:19 pm
The Hood Technique for the win! ;D


DAYUM Jefferson... Your street cred just went up my friend that's impressive!


Good job with the kids you are doing a wonderful thing brotherman I'm proud of you!


Now let's start another LL Cool J versus Jay Z thread and pick up where we left off years ago... I aint forgot player! ::)
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Maxine Shaw on October 01, 2013, 06:11:23 pm
([url]http://www.simplystamps.com/Images/Tealdeer.gif[/url])


Okay, I admit that I didn't read all that sh*t, but here's what I got:

1. You've been working with inner city kids as long as I have

2. You may or may not be/have been a teacher,

3. You may or may not have a college degree which may or may not be in education, and

4. You took some test that doesn't mean jack sh*t to me because we live in different state.

The problem is that that makes you even lower than I thought you would. See, if you had been some random dipsh*t - like Seven or Flex, for example - then I could just write you off as someone who doesn't know anything. But you're worse because you actually work with children. That is absolutely terrifying, jefferson. Here you were, thinking you were going to impress me with your List O'Bullsh*t (that you just now whipped out), and all you've managed to do is disgust me beyond belief.

At least my worst trait is blowing off steam on some message board. You, on the other hand, are unapologetically defending your God-given right to be anti-gay, demanding that your students accept mistreatment because they are "different". I don't get stunned into silence very often, but you've managed to pull it off.

First you were defending some idiot's right to murder. Now this. You're a disgrace to this profession, to this thing of ours. For the sake of your students, I hope you die tomorrow. And take that idiot Flex with you  while you're headed for hell, because that's definitely where you're going.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on October 01, 2013, 06:53:33 pm
([url]http://www.simplystamps.com/Images/Tealdeer.gif[/url])


Okay, I admit that I didn't read all that sh*t, but here's what I got:

1. You've been working with inner city kids as long as I have

2. You may or may not be/have been a teacher,

3. You may or may not have a college degree which may or may not be in education, and

4. You took some test that doesn't mean jack sh*t to me because we live in different state.

The problem is that that makes you even lower than I thought you would. See, if you had been some random dipsh*t - like Seven or Flex, for example - then I could just write you off as someone who doesn't know anything. But you're worse because you actually work with children. That is absolutely terrifying, jefferson. Here you were, thinking you were going to impress me with your List O'Bullsh*t (that you just now whipped out), and all you've managed to do is disgust me beyond belief.

At least my worst trait is blowing off steam on some message board. You, on the other hand, are unapologetically defending your God-given right to be anti-gay, demanding that your students accept mistreatment because they are "different". I don't get stunned into silence very often, but you've managed to pull it off.

First you were defending some idiot's right to murder. Now this. You're a disgrace to this profession, to this thing of ours. For the sake of your students, I hope you die tomorrow. And take that idiot Flex with you  while you're headed for hell, because that's definitely where you're going.


I'm on break from the chicken shack and have decided to respond.

Be blessed!
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on October 01, 2013, 07:00:17 pm
Stephenetta, when you listed your "Credentials" were you trying to impress me?

You've been here, through many aliases and incarnations pretty much from the beginning. I've debated issues in education and relayed my own history for several years on this forum.

I sincerely believe you have some form of mental illness at this point.

Your inability to make fundamentally rational arguments is alarming from someone in your position.

When I'm through working on the spicy strips I'll compare the requirements and tramsfer acceptances between Texas and New York in terms of teaching licenses.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on October 01, 2013, 07:08:53 pm
Hmmm, "Texas institutions do not offer a degree in education"

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Before you try to engage in any debate with me it would be wise to improve your intellect.

Not only are you out of your mind, you are out of your weight class.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Maxine Shaw on October 01, 2013, 07:11:02 pm
Stephenetta, when you listed your "Credentials" were you trying to impress me?

Again with this talk about your mother. She's not here to defend herself. And where did I list my credentials? I don't have any.

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You've been here, through many aliases and incarnations pretty much from the beginning.

Great. You're a bigot AND a liar. I changed my name one time - to Dora Milaje - and I told everyone in advance. Then I switched it back to Jenn. You are a liar. Plain and simple.

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I sincerely believe you have some form of mental illness at this point.

Of course I do. I'm talking to you, aren't I? Ah, well. Let's change that. Taking you off ignore was a huge mistake, because you're still the same sick human being that you've always been. I can respect random dipsh*ts, and even mother f*ckers like you. But when your sickness and your hatred spreads to children that you work with? That, I can't joke about. I can't make fun of that. You are affecting actual children, jefferson, and that makes you a disgusting person who is not fit to be a part of this thing of ours.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Maxine Shaw on October 01, 2013, 07:12:56 pm
Hmmm, "Texas institutions do not offer a degree in education"

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA


A BACHELOR'S, you stupid f*ck. My associates degree is in education, and my Master's will be in education. BTW, what's your degree in? Did you make one up yet?

Oh, and my bachelor's? University Studies, the closest thing we get to an BA in education. Some schools call it Multidisciplinary Studies, some call it Interdisciplinary Studies, and some call it University Studies. Did you not see the jade and violet cords around my neck, making me a member of Kappa Delta Pi? If you were a REAL teacher, you would've noticed that right off. Exposing your hand a little too quickly.

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2irq68p.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/x4jkh4.jpg)
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on October 01, 2013, 07:30:16 pm
Let the record show that the mere mention of the name Flex proves that I may not officially be on IGNORE as otherwise previously stated... ;)


Now let me one up some people here...


I do not have a degree because I went to art school for a minute and although I am not at Master Artist Mshindo level yet I am becoming one the best Zbrush digital sculptors on this planet earth! (Church)


However, I did work with a program called It's Time For Kids that focused on kids inside of probation camps like the one based on the true story in the movie The Gridiron Gang starring The Rock (Did that camp three times BTW)!


And by comparison the gangs out here in Los Angeles are far more famous than the ones in other parts of the U.S. which means I could have been shanked by kids already tattoo teared eye up with street cred never in question but I held my own... I'll probably do prison ministry in the near future as I build my rep up a bit later!


AND... Since my son is an honor student of both African American and African descent I can claim to be an international educator by default! 8)


I can't wait for Reggie to recruit him for Harvard... (Sits by phone patiently) :)


SEE... Flex Hectic is all about the children!



http://youtu.be/BWf-eARnf6U (http://youtu.be/BWf-eARnf6U)




Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on October 01, 2013, 07:41:08 pm
After a brief review of Texas standards I've discovered the following.

I can take my degree from Popeye's at Downtown Brooklyn and become an accredited professor in Texas!

Your state's level of academic performance is abysmal on every level. And that includes the requisite fraud, obfuscation and blatant corruption that is a hallmark of Texas.

You are really flailing badly.

I've posted about my background and issues in education since the inception of this forum in 2006. A random search of this section alone corrobarates that. I guess when those voices in your head call, you must obey.

I'll close with this.

I work at Le Chicken Shack. I created this account in 2006 with scores of postings critiquing education policy and relating my own personal anecdotes in teaching as an elaborate lie! You see it was the ultimate long con. I did all of this to impress Shaw with the goal being... uh.. hmmm, I don't know what the goal would be as I have nothing to gain! 8)

Be blessed, Shaw.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Maxine Shaw on October 01, 2013, 07:57:14 pm
After a brief review of Texas standards I've discovered the following.

I can take my degree from Popeye's at Downtown Brooklyn and become an accredited professor in Texas!

Your state's level of academic performance is abysmal on every level. And that includes the requisite fraud, obfuscation and blatant corruption that is a hallmark of Texas.

You are really flailing badly.

No dice, jefferson. You exposed yourself. There is absolutely, positively no way in hell any legitimate teacher does not know the KDP colors, no matter what they majored in. If you were as smart as you claim you are, then you also would've been KDP in undergrad. It's the ultimate goal for every education student, undergrad OR grad. This means either your degree is not in education, you scraped out by the skin of your teeth, you're just plain lying.

Furthermore, I have checked the requirement for the state of New York, and - surprise, surprise - there is no requirement for a degree in education, no more then there is in Texas or anywhere else in the country. All that is required is a bachelor's degree. From there, you either go through alternate certification - which is what it sound like you did - or you go through a university-based certification program, as I'm doing. Either way, you must be certified in your state and in your subject(s). You have to take the tests and you have to know your sh*t. You would know this if you were legit. Nice try, jeffy.

BTW, how many times are you going to dodge my simple question? What is your degree in? If someone asked me, I could say immediately that I earned my AAT in Special Education at Eastfield College, then earned my Bachelors of Arts in University Studies at Texas Tech. Just like that. Funny how you won't answer this. Don't NY teacher require bachelors degrees? You obviously have one...or not.

You might have been a mentor. You might have been a para. You might have been a tutor. Sh*t, you might have actually taught some classes. But a teacher, you ain't. Period. And because of that, we really have nothing to discuss.

Night, dude. Thanks for making me feel a lot better. And feel free to get the last word, because I'm done talking to you.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on October 01, 2013, 07:58:56 pm
http://youtu.be/Jk7uXaNuWNE (http://youtu.be/Jk7uXaNuWNE)
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Maxine Shaw on October 01, 2013, 08:09:52 pm
Oh, one last thing, just in case anyone is wondering:

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You do not need a specific degree to become a teacher. You definitely do not need to get a teaching degree from a 4-year college. There are benefits to doing so, but it is not a requirement in any state. ([url]http://www.teacherportal.com/q-become-teacher-without-degree[/url])


So yeah, you can take a bachelor's degree in Chicken Frying and pursue teacher certification anywhere in the United States. Not just Texas. Real teachers know that. Only fake-ass intarweb teachers try to suggest that not having an education degree makes one subpar...which doesn't even apply to me because my AAT is in Special Education.

Grand opening, grand closing.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on October 01, 2013, 08:19:05 pm
Why. Would. I. Know. Anything. About. Your. PIC?

I don't care and never have!

But you see the colors. And everyone knows the colors. Did you see the colors?

I have a Bachelor's in Political Science.

I have a Bachelor's in Philosophy.

I earned both from Brooklyn College.

This has been mentioned since, wait for it, 2006!

No colors. No "Black Greeks" HA! 8)

"All educators know KDP"

Are you serious? !@#$ KDP!


Man I thank you for the laughter you have provided tonight( Yes, I left myself open for some comeback with that one)

The point of the education degree is that your state is trash when it comes to education at all levels. Even with my poultry arts degree I would've been able to decipher that.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on October 01, 2013, 08:22:23 pm
YOU are pulling the "Real" Teachers card?

From Texas!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

* Cue the TAKEOVER beat*

Man, you must really be in some epic manic phase tonight.

 ;D

P.S. Did she really just post "Real teachers"?
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on October 02, 2013, 07:22:34 am
So why is having a degree a prerequisite for having an opinion? Can we get back to arguing about whatever it was in the first place?

Not enough Kareems in the black community. Waaaaaay too many Steve Harveys and Bill Cosbys. The only nitpick I have is #10, as we have plenty of LGBT children. The same advice can be used in same-sex relationships, but it would have been nice for Kareem to have said so.

So three pages later over a "nitpick" that "would have been nice" after praise for KAJ. Really? Never mind.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on October 02, 2013, 07:46:25 am
This ones for Curtis... ;D



http://youtu.be/97nAvTVeR6o (http://youtu.be/97nAvTVeR6o)
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Maxine Shaw on October 02, 2013, 09:01:19 am
So why is having a degree a prerequisite for having an opinion? Can we get back to arguing about whatever it was in the first place?


It's not. But if you're going to claim to be a certified teacher, you better damn well know the prerequisites to being a certified teacher, and - as jefferson had to admit himself - having a degree in education is not one of them. Not in Texas, not in New York, not in a box, not on a fox. Even the greenest pre-service teacher at the University of Hootie Mack knows that.

Now, I could mock him for being an "alt-cert" teacher (this would be if I believed he was a teacher to begin with), but I've never believed that having university-based certification is better than being alt-cert. In fact, I don't believe it takes four years of education to become a teacher. Nor do I believe that a Master's should be required to teach. It's a blatant money grab that wastes everybody's time. I'm merely pointing out that if you're going to make fun of me for not having a degree in education

1) Make sure that's actually true;
2) Have a degree in education yourself, or
3) Make sure your own teacher certification doesn't come from the Sears School of Teaching and Tire Repair (http://www.texasteachers.org/).

(Okay, that was mean.)

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So three pages later over a "nitpick" that "would have been nice" after praise for KAJ. Really? Never mind.


Basically. Such a shame when somebody lets their hatred and bias get in the way of something good, especially when it's something good that a black man has done. (Not that it means more, just that black men get a bad wrap in the media.) Derailing is such a cheap tactic. So is gaslighting (http://thecurrentconscience.com/blog/2011/09/12/a-message-to-women-from-a-man-you-are-not-%E2%80%9Ccrazy%E2%80%9D/). When all else fails, try to woman the person who has exposed you as crazy. (It's almost always a woman.) Yes, I'm crude. Yes, I'm crazy. That doesn't make jefferson any less of a fraud.

*Kanye shrug*
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: APEXABYSS on October 02, 2013, 10:04:51 am
Young boys & girls need a “Rights of Passage” program.

KAJ (#9. Mind your manners)
In ancient Africa, the youth were required to complete certain essential tasks & duties to show their transition form childhood to adulthood. Many of the tasks included moral or ethical social practices. How many schools have classes on moral values?

The public school system is a failure but that does not mean teachers are failures. They’re just supporting a failing system. They don’t call colleges/ universities “higher learning” for nothin’!

Why not teach outside the state/federal regulated curriculum? That’s what I thought!

 “F!@#$%k School”--  K.R.S. 1 ( Knowledge Reigns Supreme)

KAJ (#10. Be patient in love)
Maxine Shaw
Gay-students? Sex-Ed should cover all aspects of sexuality & interpersonal relationships. What? No Sex-Ed courses? I still believe there are more pressing issues besides pre-teen/teen sexual identity.  If a young person isn’t old enough or mature enough to (drive a car or) operate a vehicle safely, then how can they safely manage all the complexities within a relationship?

KAJ (#8. Be politically aware)
This should apply to the pubescent black community. They’re just supporting a failing system.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on October 02, 2013, 11:27:13 am
BAH... You don't need no stinking degrees all you need is a personal trainer certification and your life is all set!


With just one personal trainer certification you can live in the Los Angeles area and train celebrities while living in a home with a 30 something by 20 something size swimming pool with palm trees that you hand planted yourself!


Other perks include running into Academy Award nominees like Mr. Hudlin at the grocery store while they shoplifting even though they have a degree from esteemed institutions like Harvard of all places... Shame on you Reggie put those Honeynut Cheerios and Campbell Soup cans back in their proper aisles you are a black super hero represent properly! ;D


Of my five siblings I'm the only one without a degree living as close to my dreams as possible while they get set up for the winter hibernation back east... Except for my brother who lives out here at Warner/DC's expense!


Living La Vida Loca is all that matters in the long run don't let em phool ya!


Now for the kiddeez all they need is love and respect and a little academic push every now and then and Black Panther comics stashed in the duffle bag to remind them on a subatomic molecular level how BOSS they can be even if only on an imaginary level!


Malcolm X read (And wrote) the dictionary in prison and accomplished more than the very educated people he bodied in debates every time they brought their high end letters to the pulpit!


Look mom no degree...



http://youtu.be/Dmzaaf-9aHQ (http://youtu.be/Dmzaaf-9aHQ)










Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on October 02, 2013, 01:38:15 pm
So why is having a degree a prerequisite for having an opinion? Can we get back to arguing about whatever it was in the first place?


It's not. But if you're going to claim to be a certified teacher, you better damn well know the prerequisites to being a certified teacher, and - as jefferson had to admit himself - having a degree in education is not one of them. Not in Texas, not in New York, not in a box, not on a fox. Even the greenest pre-service teacher at the University of Hootie Mack knows that.

Now, I could mock him for being an "alt-cert" teacher (this would be if I believed he was a teacher to begin with), but I've never believed that having university-based certification is better than being alt-cert. In fact, I don't believe it takes four years of education to become a teacher. Nor do I believe that a Master's should be required to teach. It's a blatant money grab that wastes everybody's time. I'm merely pointing out that if you're going to make fun of me for not having a degree in education

1) Make sure that's actually true;
2) Have a degree in education yourself, or
3) Make sure your own teacher certification doesn't come from the Sears School of Teaching and Tire Repair ([url]http://www.texasteachers.org/[/url]).

(Okay, that was mean.)

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So three pages later over a "nitpick" that "would have been nice" after praise for KAJ. Really? Never mind.


Basically. Such a shame when somebody lets their hatred and bias get in the way of something good, especially when it's something good that a black man has done. (Not that it means more, just that black men get a bad wrap in the media.) Derailing is such a cheap tactic. So is gaslighting ([url]http://thecurrentconscience.com/blog/2011/09/12/a-message-to-women-from-a-man-you-are-not-%E2%80%9Ccrazy%E2%80%9D/[/url]). When all else fails, try to woman the person who has exposed you as crazy. (It's almost always a woman.) Yes, I'm crude. Yes, I'm crazy. That doesn't make jefferson any less of a fraud.

*Kanye shrug*


This pathetic, sick, imbecile!

There have been professor's on this board with whom I've discussed my teaching with. None of whom would recognize DEM GOOD OL COLORS you are so proud to wave that equate to absolutely nothing.

The mixture of ego, mania, and downright idiocy is mind-boggling on your part.

I'll do the dance as the entertainment factor is too great. 8)

We can compare years of attendance. National ranking. State certification requirements. And whatever else you want.

Going by your history of crazy to flight and back to crazy you won't bother.

I'll do a little tour, when I'm through spicing up the wings for the evening rush of course, to gauge the opinion of educators on the weight OF DEM GOOD OL COLORS and Texas education/certification as a whole.

Here is a preview of said survey...

TEXAS? EDUCATION? KAPPA WHAT.

HAHAHAYAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

Stephenetta brings up the issue, gets trounced by said issue, and then brings up a new internet phenomenon, Catfish teaching, to obfuscate.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on October 02, 2013, 01:41:26 pm
So why is having a degree a prerequisite for having an opinion?

Ask that idiot who promoted the premise in the first place?

A Chicken Shack in Brooklyn is known as a finishing school in Texas by the way.
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on October 02, 2013, 01:46:54 pm
BAH... You don't need no stinking degrees all you need is a personal trainer certification and your life is all set!


With just one personal trainer certification you can live in the Los Angeles area and train celebrities while living in a home with a 30 something by 20 something size swimming pool with palm trees that you hand planted yourself!


Other perks include running into Academy Award nominees like Mr. Hudlin at the grocery store while they shoplifting even though they have a degree from esteemed institutions like Harvard of all places... Shame on you Reggie put those Honeynut Cheerios and Campbell Soup cans back in their proper aisles you are a black super hero represent properly! ;D


Of my five siblings I'm the only one without a degree living as close to my dreams as possible while they get set up for the winter hibernation back east... Except for my brother who lives out here at Warner/DC's expense!


Living La Vida Loca is all that matters in the long run don't let em phool ya!


Now for the kiddeez all they need is love and respect and a little academic push every now and then and Black Panther comics stashed in the duffle bag to remind them on a subatomic molecular level how BOSS they can be even if only on an imaginary level!


Malcolm X read (And wrote) the dictionary in prison and accomplished more than the very educated people he bodied in debates every time they brought their high end letters to the pulpit!


Look mom no degree...



[url]http://youtu.be/Dmzaaf-9aHQ[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/Dmzaaf-9aHQ[/url])


C'mon Flex, stop lying.

You are not a personal trainer and the only strength-training you receive is folding up your cardbox twice a day!
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on October 02, 2013, 05:41:00 pm
Jefferson does that cardboard box come with a big swimming pool? ;D


C'mon in the water is fine... Even T'challa stops by for some splashing fun until things get you know HECTIC!!!


(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp257/FLEXHECTIC/IMG_0530.jpg) (http://s417.photobucket.com/user/FLEXHECTIC/media/IMG_0530.jpg.html)



(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp257/FLEXHECTIC/ScreenShot2013-09-02at54707PM.png) (http://s417.photobucket.com/user/FLEXHECTIC/media/ScreenShot2013-09-02at54707PM.png.html)



http://youtu.be/iwHS4G-t74Y (http://youtu.be/iwHS4G-t74Y)



http://youtu.be/TPxiXGr9nFM (http://youtu.be/TPxiXGr9nFM)


Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on October 02, 2013, 06:42:57 pm
Flex hopped over Reggie's gate and took that photo.

I am happy to report that these HEF members were able to work it out and that Hudlin refused to press charges.

P.S. The only cardio Flex gets is when he snatches flaming hot Cheetos from malnourished kids and runs away! 8)
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on October 02, 2013, 09:35:19 pm
Mrs. Hudlin: "REGGIEEEEEEE... That TROLL is back again!"

Reggie Hudlin: "Come on Flex you stepped all over the roses!"

Flex Hectic: "Sorry, I just need some more pics... It's for your site after all!"

Reggie Hudlin: "Dude seriously just admit you live in a cardboard box and get it over with!"

Flex Hectic: "Not just any box but an authentic Bowflex box! I could have went with the Total Gym box but..."

Mrs. Hudlin: "Seriously, I'm going to make you shut down that site if any more TROLLS show up at our home!"

Maxine Shaw: "A flarn flarn filth a flarn flarn filth!"

Mrs. Hudlin: "Oh Gawd where's my shotgun... Let me show you how we do things East Boogie style you cussing demon you!"

Reggie Hudlin: "C'mon man get your internet wife out of here with her foul mouth!"

Flex Hectic: "I can't control this lady she out there for real!"

Maxine Shaw: "It's for the kids you LGBT hating Bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!!!"

Michael: "Love Your Smile!"

Supreme: "I once killed a man by teleporting inside him and spontaneously combusting into dark matter particles!"

Curtis: "I heard there was a BBQ up in here brought some franks and beans!"

Battle: "You aint said nothing but a word!"

Mrs. Hudlin: "Aw hell to the naw!"


That's it I crossed the line so I am banning myself for 59 minutes and 59 seconds until I redeem myself!


(Jumps into fictional pool before realizing that he did not install a pool heater... Reg can you spot me 4 grand I want one of those Hayward pool heaters for advanced night swim exercises!) 8)


Back to the topic at hand people...






Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on October 03, 2013, 11:24:16 am
Kareem Abdul Jabbar on his book Brothers in Arms about the 761st Battalion also known as The Black Panthers... Talk to the kids about the sacrifices of heroic black men in World War 2 against all types of odds and let them take it from there!



http://www.today.com/video/today/5120169#5120169 (http://www.today.com/video/today/5120169#5120169)
Title: Re: 20 Things Boys Can Do to Become Men
Post by: Battle on October 03, 2013, 03:10:31 pm
Quote
Battle: "You aint said nothing but a word!"



Uhh-h-h...  A slight re-write is in order. 
Actually I wouldn't have remarked like that.  I'd probably say something like,

"You haven't said anything of any importance."

 ;D