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Comics => Black Panther => Panther Politics => Topic started by: Hulkster on January 07, 2007, 08:47:08 pm

Title: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Hulkster on January 07, 2007, 08:47:08 pm
This is the thread Thatguy refered me to that he participated in.  These folks are truly trashing the series without having read the book.  50% of their facts are completely wrong. ???  And they take the racial stuff to an extreme.

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,126220.0.html
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on January 07, 2007, 09:10:08 pm
Geez, these threads are popping up everywhere.  They seem to increase with the book's popularity. 
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 07, 2007, 09:19:04 pm
50% of their facts are completely wrong.

That's what pisses me off the MOST. If they didn't like the book just because, that's one thing. But they're just making UP sh*t!!
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: BlackRodimus on January 07, 2007, 09:34:21 pm
Idiocy at its unmoderated best.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: JRCarter on January 07, 2007, 09:35:30 pm
That cat Greywulf was the worst of the lot.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: kitamu Re on January 07, 2007, 09:49:06 pm
I like to beat them over the head that they haven't read the book. that usually gets them to shut up :D
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 07, 2007, 10:18:52 pm
I think we finally found a board even more racist than X-Fan!

Idiocy at its unmoderated best.

Actually, it IS moderated. And they think we're bad?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: In_Spirit on January 07, 2007, 11:25:04 pm
I think the best thing about these posts is that they expose a lot of the ugliness that has plagued the comics community for too long.  It also proves that the industry definitely needed a high profile black creator on a high profile black character.  No disrespect to Priest or McDuffie, but I think it took a successful industry outsider like Hudlin to really shake all this mess out.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 07, 2007, 11:26:06 pm
And because of Hudlin, it'll be easier for cats like McDuffie or Priest. Hudlin - he's like Martin Luther King, in a way. ;)
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: In_Spirit on January 07, 2007, 11:41:20 pm
And because of Hudlin, it'll be easier for cats like McDuffie or Priest. Hudlin - he's like Martin Luther King, in a way. ;)

I'm down for the march on Marvel then.   :D
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 07, 2007, 11:42:30 pm
Let our comics go! Give us free! We shall overcoooooooooooooooome...
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: supreme illuminati on January 07, 2007, 11:48:42 pm
I'll step in when Reginald starts scarifying them insanely stupid some more,like he did with #1 and a few other memorable issues.I mean,this brutha had MALCOLM X IN HIS COMICS! never,ever ever ever ever have I seen that in a Big Two book.It might be a first in MU history.Yo,RH...do you know if you pulled off ANOTHER first? While you're off checking,I'ma be over here saying:

"We declare our right to be a man...to be a human being...in this society on this earth in this day and this time...which we will bring about...by ANY MEANS NECESSARY!"


I read some of the link.More accurately,I skimmed the unbelievable ignorance and racism apparent in just the first page,and then I stopped reading. Frankly,the colossal dooficity is such that at first I was mildly annoyed and was going to drop some ILLUMINATION on them,but as I read further,it became utterly apparent to me that they are utterly set in their ways and WILL NOT CHANGE WHATEVER THE COST,therefore me dueling with them on THEIR site about THEIR conversation is largely a waste of my time.Maybe I might be able to impact the thinking of 1 out of a dozen or so ignoramuses there.MAYBE.But to cause a complete change of mind...much less a sea change (and these kats need more  than a sea change,they just need JESUS,lol,like D.L. HUGHLEY says),is just unrealistic.It's a battle that should only be waged just to vent the frustration of the speaker,or hoping to hit that elusive one of ever dozen or score or more....and that's IT.That's ALL.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 12:18:45 am
With threads like these:

Which ethnicity have you mashed the most? (http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,123601.0.html)

Battle of the Israeli bitches (http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,125613.0.html)

Fat Women vs Skinny Bitches vs Thick Heffas (http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,122561.0.html)

...do their opinions even COUNT?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: GrimSkill on January 08, 2007, 12:43:28 am
With threads like these:

Which ethnicity have you mashed the most? ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,123601.0.html[/url])

Battle of the Israeli bitches ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,125613.0.html[/url])

Fat Women vs Skinny Bitches vs Thick Heffas ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,122561.0.html[/url])

...do their opinions even COUNT?



Oh Good Gawd >.<
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: BlackRodimus on January 08, 2007, 04:57:29 am
I can't decide if its moderated by David Dukes or David Dukes's 10 year old.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: sinjection on January 08, 2007, 05:12:58 am
I think the best thing about these posts is that they expose a lot of the ugliness that has plagued the comics community for too long.  It also proves that the industry definitely needed a high profile black creator on a high profile black character.  No disrespect to Priest or McDuffie, but I think it took a successful industry outsider like Hudlin to really shake all this mess out.

I should like to go on record as saying this message by In_Spirit is very possibly the most accurate I have ever read posted to this message board. It says in three very succinct sentences, something I have attempted to convey in a year (or so) of over-long posts. And my "over-long posts" aren't nearly as interesting nor are they as informative as are supreme illuminati's "over-long posts"  :D

In_Spirit's message says it all and clearly illustrates why the more ignorant members of the larger comic book-buying demographic are so rabid in their dislike of Hudlin's Panther. The more ignorant, rabid members of the larger comic book-buying demographic  remind me of many white NFL fans who when the new rules for interviewing qualified black and minority candidates for vacant head coaching positions were made public, began to whine about how since black athletes had dominated all of the offensive skill positions, all of the defensive positions and were making strong inroads on the once-unassailable white-dominated position of Quarterback, once black head coaches began competing with white head coaches, there wouldn't be anyplace left for white participation in the game. These are the depths to which their ignorance and stupidity descended. It isn't any mystery to me why the more ignorant and rabid members of the larger comic book-buying demographic are say the things about Hudlin and the Panther book that they do. It doesn't surprise me how these bad actors can infect others within the larger comic book-buying demographic with their rabid, resentful, and quite possibly racist ignorance. White people may not make a habit of referring to and greeting themselves as "brother" and "sister", but they realize that as a race, it is largely due to their ability to key on their physical and cultural similarities when "circling the wagons" to repel or oppress those people who don't look like them or act like they do. The larger comic book-buying demographic are expert when it comes to  playing the "us against them" game.

And because of Hudlin, it'll be easier for cats like McDuffie or Priest. Hudlin - he's like Martin Luther King, in a way. ;)


Hudlin has already made it easier for McDuffie and Priest as far as their standing with many in the larger comic book-buying demographic are concerned. But it isn't because he's like Martin Luther King, Jr. - in my always humble opinion of course. The reason Hudlin may have made things easier for writers like Priest - albeit temporarily - is because he is more like Malcolm X than he is like Dr. King. Hudlin is more like W.E.B. DuBois than he would have been to Booker T. Washington and then later, Hudlin would have been more like Marcus Garvey than he would have been to W.E.B. DuBois.

Booker T. Washington was a great man who did many great things for our people. It was also Booker T. Washington who uttered these words in his 1895 Atlanta Exposition Address. He was expressing the opinion that racist whites should look more kindly upon the millions of black American descendants of slaves before casting them aside in favor of newly-arriving immigrants to this country: "As we have proved our loyalty to you in the past, in nursing your children, watching by the sickbed of your mothers and fathers, and often following them with tear-dimmed eyes to their graves, so in the future, in our humble way, we shall stand by you with a devotion that no foreigner can approach, ready to lay down our lives, if need be, in defence of yours, interlacing our industrial, commercial, civil and religious life with yours in a way that shall make the interests of both races one."

There probably are many white people both within and without the larger comic book-buying demographic who would gladly take full advantage of Booker T. Washington's offer and abuse it and black people in return. This could explain why so many in that "demographic" cannot stomach Luke Cage unless he is teamed with Iron Fist..."devoted to" Iron Fist..."ready to lay down his life, if need be" for Iron Fist. Subservient to Iron Fist - who in my always humble opinion should have never been white Danny Rand in the first place, but should have been Shang Chi, The Master Of Kung Fu, from the start.

Hudlin's Panther does not reflect the type of values Booker T. Washington spoke of. Hudlin's T'Chaka didn't fight Captain America to a "draw". Hudlin's T'Chaka soundly defeated Captain America and left their battleground with the beaten and unconcious Captain slung over his shoulder like a sack of flour. In their minds, Hudlin doesn't know his place and because of this failing on his part, Hudlin now writes a Panther who no longer knows his place.

Priest wrote a Panther who was surrounded by white people. Priest's Panther even made a white man regent of "racist" Wakanda.

Looking at it this way, it should come as a surprise to none of us that Priest is the black author of preference where the larger comic book-buying demographic is concerned.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 08, 2007, 05:19:43 am
Haha get out of here. Are you actually trying to portray Priest as the Sidney Poitres of comics?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: GrimSkill on January 08, 2007, 05:37:35 am
I think the best thing about these posts is that they expose a lot of the ugliness that has plagued the comics community for too long.  It also proves that the industry definitely needed a high profile black creator on a high profile black character.  No disrespect to Priest or McDuffie, but I think it took a successful industry outsider like Hudlin to really shake all this mess out.

I should like to go on record as saying this message by In_Spirit is very possibly the most accurate I have ever read posted to this message board. It says in three very succinct sentences, something I have attempted to convey in a year (or so) of over-long posts. And my "over-long posts" aren't nearly as interesting nor are they as informative as are supreme illuminati's "over-long posts"  :D

In_Spirit's message says it all and clearly illustrates why the more ignorant members of the larger comic book-buying demographic are so rabid in their dislike of Hudlin's Panther. The more ignorant, rabid members of the larger comic book-buying demographic  remind me of many white NFL fans who when the new rules for interviewing qualified black and minority candidates for vacant head coaching positions were made public, began to whine about how since black athletes had dominated all of the offensive skill positions, all of the defensive positions and were making strong inroads on the once-unassailable white-dominated position of Quarterback, once black head coaches began competing with white head coaches, there wouldn't be anyplace left for white participation in the game. These are the depths to which their ignorance and stupidity descended. It isn't any mystery to me why the more ignorant and rabid members of the larger comic book-buying demographic are say the things about Hudlin and the Panther book that they do. It doesn't surprise me how these bad actors can infect others within the larger comic book-buying demographic with their rabid, resentful, and quite possibly racist ignorance. White people may not make a habit of referring to and greeting themselves as "brother" and "sister", but they realize that as a race, it is largely due to their ability to key on their physical and cultural similarities when "circling the wagons" to repel or oppress those people who don't look like them or act like they do. The larger comic book-buying demographic are expert when it comes to  playing the "us against them" game.

And because of Hudlin, it'll be easier for cats like McDuffie or Priest. Hudlin - he's like Martin Luther King, in a way. ;)


Hudlin has already made it easier for McDuffie and Priest as far as their standing with many in the larger comic book-buying demographic are concerned. But it isn't because he's like Martin Luther King, Jr. - in my always humble opinion of course. The reason Hudlin may have made things easier for writers like Priest - albeit temporarily - is because he is more like Malcolm X than he is like Dr. King. Hudlin is more like W.E.B. DuBois than he would have been to Booker T. Washington and then later, Hudlin would have been more like Marcus Garvey than he would have been to W.E.B. DuBois.

Booker T. Washington was a great man who did many great things for our people. It was also Booker T. Washington who uttered these words in his 1895 Atlanta Exposition Address. He was expressing the opinion that racist whites should look more kindly upon the millions of black American descendants of slaves before casting them aside in favor of newly-arriving immigrants to this country: "As we have proved our loyalty to you in the past, in nursing your children, watching by the sickbed of your mothers and fathers, and often following them with tear-dimmed eyes to their graves, so in the future, in our humble way, we shall stand by you with a devotion that no foreigner can approach, ready to lay down our lives, if need be, in defence of yours, interlacing our industrial, commercial, civil and religious life with yours in a way that shall make the interests of both races one."

There probably are many white people both within and without the larger comic book-buying demographic who would gladly take full advantage of Booker T. Washington's offer and abuse it and black people in return. This could explain why so many in that "demographic" cannot stomach Luke Cage unless he is teamed with Iron Fist..."devoted to" Iron Fist..."ready to lay down his life, if need be" for Iron Fist. Subservient to Iron Fist - who in my always humble opinion should have never been white Danny Rand in the first place, but should have been Shang Chi, The Master Of Kung Fu, from the start.

Hudlin's Panther does not reflect the type of values Booker T. Washington spoke of. Hudlin's T'Chaka didn't fight Captain America to a "draw". Hudlin's T'Chaka soundly defeated Captain America and left their battleground with the beaten and unconcious Captain slung over his shoulder like a sack of flour. In their minds, Hudlin doesn't know his place and because of this failing on his part, Hudlin now writes a Panther who no longer knows his place.

Priest wrote a Panther who was surrounded by white people. Priest's Panther even made a white man regent of "racist" Wakanda.

Looking at it this way, it should come as a surprise to none of us that Priest is the black author of preference where the larger comic book-buying demographic is concerned.

Long time no See Sinjection!!!

Yes,Yes yall! Sin is back and is Dropping the knowledge again ;D ;D ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 05:46:56 am
Sin came back because it's my birthday.  ;D
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: sinjection on January 08, 2007, 06:04:40 am
Thank you, Grim. It's good to see you, brother.  :)

Happy Birthday, Jenn  ;)


I've had a very busy start to 2007. It doesn't leave me much time to post. When I finally did have the time to check in, I saw that the HEF was down for maintainence. I thought..."uh oh".

But here you all are. So it's all good.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 08, 2007, 06:42:19 am
With threads like these:

Which ethnicity have you mashed the most? ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,123601.0.html[/url])

Battle of the Israeli bitches ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,125613.0.html[/url])

Fat Women vs Skinny Bitches vs Thick Heffas ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,122561.0.html[/url])

...do their opinions even COUNT?


haha how are those threads any worse than your "Turn your negro card back" thread in the general forum?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 07:12:09 am
Haha, if you have to ask that question, you're dumber than we suspected.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Mastrmynd on January 08, 2007, 07:23:39 am
*holds Queen back*

he knows not what he's saying.
maybe he's young and naive.
let's give him the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 08, 2007, 07:30:33 am
Haha, if you have to ask that question, you're dumber than we suspected.

They are at worst sexist threads.

And exactly how does that interfere with their stances on racism and comics?

Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Vic Vega on January 08, 2007, 07:39:16 am
With threads like these:

Which ethnicity have you mashed the most? ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,123601.0.html[/url])

Battle of the Israeli bitches ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,125613.0.html[/url])

Fat Women vs Skinny Bitches vs Thick Heffas ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,122561.0.html[/url])

...do their opinions even COUNT?


It cracks me up that these guys talk about sex like its even an OPTION for them.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 08, 2007, 07:40:40 am
With threads like these:

Which ethnicity have you mashed the most? ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,123601.0.html[/url])

Battle of the Israeli bitches ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,125613.0.html[/url])

Fat Women vs Skinny Bitches vs Thick Heffas ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,122561.0.html[/url])

...do their opinions even COUNT?


It cracks me up that these guys talk about sex like its even an OPTION for them.


It cracks me up that instead of going there to their board and confront them, you guys sit there on your asses and do nothing but complain in the safety of your little board.

Dora Milaje seems to be the only one with balls enough to do it
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Vic Vega on January 08, 2007, 07:56:09 am
With threads like these:

Which ethnicity have you mashed the most? ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,123601.0.html[/url])

Battle of the Israeli bitches ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,125613.0.html[/url])

Fat Women vs Skinny Bitches vs Thick Heffas ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,122561.0.html[/url])

...do their opinions even COUNT?


It cracks me up that these guys talk about sex like its even an OPTION for them.


It cracks me up that instead of going there to their board and confront them, you guys sit there on your asses and do nothing but complain in the safety of your little board.

Dora Milaje seems to be the only one with balls enough to do it


Why so defensive? Strike a nerve?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 08, 2007, 07:58:23 am
With threads like these:

Which ethnicity have you mashed the most? ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,123601.0.html[/url])

Battle of the Israeli bitches ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,125613.0.html[/url])

Fat Women vs Skinny Bitches vs Thick Heffas ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,122561.0.html[/url])

...do their opinions even COUNT?


It cracks me up that these guys talk about sex like its even an OPTION for them.


It cracks me up that instead of going there to their board and confront them, you guys sit there on your asses and do nothing but complain in the safety of your little board.

Dora Milaje seems to be the only one with balls enough to do it


Why so defensive? Strike a nerve?


No, I just find it funny how people everywhere on all boards talk the talk but are afraid to walk the walk.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 08:05:16 am
It cracks me up that instead of going there to their board and confront them, you guys sit there on your asses and do nothing but complain in the safety of your little board.

Dora Milaje seems to be the only one with balls enough to do it

Shut up white boy. You're on OUR turf, troll.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Vic Vega on January 08, 2007, 08:13:00 am
With threads like these:

Which ethnicity have you mashed the most? ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,123601.0.html[/url])

Battle of the Israeli bitches ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,125613.0.html[/url])

Fat Women vs Skinny Bitches vs Thick Heffas ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,122561.0.html[/url])

...do their opinions even COUNT?


It cracks me up that these guys talk about sex like its even an OPTION for them.


It cracks me up that instead of going there to their board and confront them, you guys sit there on your asses and do nothing but complain in the safety of your little board.

Dora Milaje seems to be the only one with balls enough to do it


Why so defensive? Strike a nerve?


No, I just find it funny how people everywhere on all boards talk the talk but are afraid to walk the walk.


Ah yes, "proving" internet manhood. That's a worthy goal. Moron.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 08:15:35 am
Oh, you didn't know? Apparently, us niggers have nothing better to do than to confront EVERYBODY on EVERY BOARD about EVERYTHING that pisses us off, regardless whether we actually give a sh*t or not. Because it's not like we don't have anything else better to do. It's not like we WORK, or go to school, or have families to provide for. (Black people take care of their kids? Surely you jest!)
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 08, 2007, 08:18:39 am
It cracks me up that instead of going there to their board and confront them, you guys sit there on your asses and do nothing but complain in the safety of your little board.

Dora Milaje seems to be the only one with balls enough to do it

Shut up white boy. You're on OUR turf, troll.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Who said I'm white?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 08:19:15 am
I said you're white, white boy. You think I'm impressed with a Bob Marley icon?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 08, 2007, 08:20:50 am
With threads like these:

Which ethnicity have you mashed the most? ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,123601.0.html[/url])

Battle of the Israeli bitches ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,125613.0.html[/url])

Fat Women vs Skinny Bitches vs Thick Heffas ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,122561.0.html[/url])

...do their opinions even COUNT?


It cracks me up that these guys talk about sex like its even an OPTION for them.


It cracks me up that instead of going there to their board and confront them, you guys sit there on your asses and do nothing but complain in the safety of your little board.

Dora Milaje seems to be the only one with balls enough to do it


Why so defensive? Strike a nerve?


No, I just find it funny how people everywhere on all boards talk the talk but are afraid to walk the walk.


Ah yes, "proving" internet manhood. That's a worthy goal. Moron.


Like I said, if you intend to talk the talk then you should also be prepared to walk the walk.

I've only seen you do the talking
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: bluezulu on January 08, 2007, 08:20:55 am
Welcome bro, but chill with calling folks out before you even know what we are about here. Yea, I agree that a lot of boards have a lot of empty talk, but members of this board visit a lot of more prominent sites then that one and represent for minorities in comics, the black panther and reggie hudlin so your negative comments are not warrantied here.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 08, 2007, 08:22:35 am
Welcome bro, but chill with calling folks out before you even know what we are about here. Yea, I agree that a lot of boards have a lot of empty talk, but members of this board visit a lot of more prominent sites then that one and represent for minorities in comics, the black panther and reggie hudlin so your negative comments are not warrantied here.

Sure, but it's kinda hard to chill when Lady Ebony here is telling me what race I am
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Yaw on January 08, 2007, 08:22:40 am
Haha get out of here. Are you actually trying to portray Priest as the Sidney Poitres of comics?

Actually he was worse.  Feel free to take a look at the "What if ...Priest" post.  I talk about my thoughts on Priest's ways pretty extensively.  It's obvious we was constantly trying to appeal to the white comic book fan.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: bluezulu on January 08, 2007, 08:23:52 am
With threads like these:

Which ethnicity have you mashed the most? ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,123601.0.html[/url])

Battle of the Israeli bitches ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,125613.0.html[/url])

Fat Women vs Skinny Bitches vs Thick Heffas ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,122561.0.html[/url])

...do their opinions even COUNT?


It cracks me up that these guys talk about sex like its even an OPTION for them.


It cracks me up that instead of going there to their board and confront them, you guys sit there on your asses and do nothing but complain in the safety of your little board.

Dora Milaje seems to be the only one with balls enough to do it


Why so defensive? Strike a nerve?


No, I just find it funny how people everywhere on all boards talk the talk but are afraid to walk the walk.


Ah yes, "proving" internet manhood. That's a worthy goal. Moron.


Like I said, if you intend to talk the talk then you should also be prepared to walk the walk.

I've only seen you do the talking

-------------------------
what is she supposed to do, do a drive by through her computer monitor. Start posting something tangable or real or move it on along bro. If anyone wants to go over to that board it will be because they want to not because some e-thugery. Who are you and what have you done for mankind that makes you the authority of what it takes to be a real man/women. N*gga you on your key board typing like my or anyone else here.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Vic Vega on January 08, 2007, 08:24:12 am
With threads like these:

Which ethnicity have you mashed the most? ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,123601.0.html[/url])

Battle of the Israeli bitches ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,125613.0.html[/url])

Fat Women vs Skinny Bitches vs Thick Heffas ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,122561.0.html[/url])

...do their opinions even COUNT?


It cracks me up that these guys talk about sex like its even an OPTION for them.


It cracks me up that instead of going there to their board and confront them, you guys sit there on your asses and do nothing but complain in the safety of your little board.

Dora Milaje seems to be the only one with balls enough to do it


Why so defensive? Strike a nerve?


No, I just find it funny how people everywhere on all boards talk the talk but are afraid to walk the walk.


Ah yes, "proving" internet manhood. That's a worthy goal. Moron.


Like I said, if you intend to talk the talk then you should also be prepared to walk the walk.

I've only seen you do the talking


You seem to be confused. You dance to amuse me, not the other way around.

Now squeal again, troll.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Yaw on January 08, 2007, 08:25:20 am
With threads like these:

Which ethnicity have you mashed the most? ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,123601.0.html[/url])

Battle of the Israeli bitches ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,125613.0.html[/url])

Fat Women vs Skinny Bitches vs Thick Heffas ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,122561.0.html[/url])

...do their opinions even COUNT?


It cracks me up that these guys talk about sex like its even an OPTION for them.


It cracks me up that instead of going there to their board and confront them, you guys sit there on your asses and do nothing but complain in the safety of your little board.

Dora Milaje seems to be the only one with balls enough to do it


Why so defensive? Strike a nerve?


No, I just find it funny how people everywhere on all boards talk the talk but are afraid to walk the walk.


Ah yes, "proving" internet manhood. That's a worthy goal. Moron.


Like I said, if you intend to talk the talk then you should also be prepared to walk the walk.

I've only seen you do the talking


Yeah seriously get out of here with this nonsense.  Take a look around and you will see just how much we post on other boards.  Until then you are just another troll that is coming to our home to kick up some dust.  We get like 1 or 2 of you every week.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 08:26:56 am
Welcome bro, but chill with calling folks out before you even know what we are about here. Yea, I agree that a lot of boards have a lot of empty talk, but members of this board visit a lot of more prominent sites then that one and represent for minorities in comics, the black panther and reggie hudlin so your negative comments are not warrantied here.

Sure, but it's kinda hard to chill when Lady Ebony here is telling me what race I am

You know how I know you're white? If you weren't white, you would've said so. Only white people say things like "how do you know I'm white"? Non-whites say "I'm not white". Now GTFO, white boy.

You seem to be confused. You dance to amuse me, not the other way around.

Now squeal again, troll.

Awwww, can't we keep him? Huhhuhhuh? He's so goofy and stupid!
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 08, 2007, 08:30:15 am
Welcome bro, but chill with calling folks out before you even know what we are about here. Yea, I agree that a lot of boards have a lot of empty talk, but members of this board visit a lot of more prominent sites then that one and represent for minorities in comics, the black panther and reggie hudlin so your negative comments are not warrantied here.

Sure, but it's kinda hard to chill when Lady Ebony here is telling me what race I am

You know how I know you're white? If you weren't white, you would've said so. Only white people say things like "how do you know I'm white"? Non-whites say "I'm not white". Now GTFO, white boy.

"only white people say things like that"?

My my my....

Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 08:30:50 am
What's your point, white boy? Speak your piece or slide like grease.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 08, 2007, 08:31:45 am
With threads like these:

Which ethnicity have you mashed the most? ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,123601.0.html[/url])

Battle of the Israeli bitches ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,125613.0.html[/url])

Fat Women vs Skinny Bitches vs Thick Heffas ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,122561.0.html[/url])

...do their opinions even COUNT?


It cracks me up that these guys talk about sex like its even an OPTION for them.


It cracks me up that instead of going there to their board and confront them, you guys sit there on your asses and do nothing but complain in the safety of your little board.

Dora Milaje seems to be the only one with balls enough to do it


Why so defensive? Strike a nerve?


No, I just find it funny how people everywhere on all boards talk the talk but are afraid to walk the walk.


Ah yes, "proving" internet manhood. That's a worthy goal. Moron.


Like I said, if you intend to talk the talk then you should also be prepared to walk the walk.

I've only seen you do the talking

-------------------------
what is she supposed to do, do a drive by through her computer monitor. Start posting something tangable or real or move it on along bro. If anyone wants to go over to that board it will be because they want to not because some e-thugery. Who are you and what have you done for mankind that makes you the authority of what it takes to be a real man/women. N*gga you on your key board typing like my or anyone else here.


Sure, I'll leave that
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 08, 2007, 08:32:32 am
With threads like these:

Which ethnicity have you mashed the most? ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,123601.0.html[/url])

Battle of the Israeli bitches ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,125613.0.html[/url])

Fat Women vs Skinny Bitches vs Thick Heffas ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,122561.0.html[/url])

...do their opinions even COUNT?


It cracks me up that these guys talk about sex like its even an OPTION for them.


It cracks me up that instead of going there to their board and confront them, you guys sit there on your asses and do nothing but complain in the safety of your little board.

Dora Milaje seems to be the only one with balls enough to do it


Why so defensive? Strike a nerve?


No, I just find it funny how people everywhere on all boards talk the talk but are afraid to walk the walk.


Ah yes, "proving" internet manhood. That's a worthy goal. Moron.


Like I said, if you intend to talk the talk then you should also be prepared to walk the walk.

I've only seen you do the talking


You seem to be confused. You dance to amuse me, not the other way around.

Now squeal again, troll.


bwahahhahahaha whatever loser
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 08, 2007, 08:33:23 am
Haha get out of here. Are you actually trying to portray Priest as the Sidney Poitres of comics?

Actually he was worse.  Feel free to take a look at the "What if ...Priest" post.  I talk about my thoughts on Priest's ways pretty extensively.  It's obvious we was constantly trying to appeal to the white comic book fan.

I read it, and that thread was filled with dumbass speculations
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 08:33:37 am
Sure, I'll leave that

We should be so lucky.  ::)

God, I wish the crackerbrats would step their game up. They all do the same sh*t. Come in, make stupid comments, try that 'reverse racism' sh*t, cry that we treat them mean, and then leave. f*ck, crackerbrats - do a trick or something. Bring some food. Say something RELEVANT. Anything other than the same STUPID sh*t. We're starting to get bored with y'all.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 08, 2007, 08:36:04 am
We should be so lucky.  ::)

God, I wish the crackerbrats would step their game up. They all do the same sh*t. Come in, make stupid comments, try that 'reverse racism' sh*t, cry that we treat them mean, and then leave. f*ck, crackerbrats - do a trick or something. Bring some food. Say something RELEVANT. Anything other than the same STUPID sh*t. We're starting to get bored with y'all.

The funny thing is Lady Zulu: That Since I've arrived, I haven't even spoken up a WORD about Hudlin or his run on Black Panther.

And still you call me white, crackerbrat and sh*t like that.

So the question is: Where did you come up with the conclusion that I "am a white male who fears the black man and his role as my equal"?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Vic Vega on January 08, 2007, 08:38:22 am
With threads like these:

Which ethnicity have you mashed the most? ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,123601.0.html[/url])

Battle of the Israeli bitches ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,125613.0.html[/url])

Fat Women vs Skinny Bitches vs Thick Heffas ([url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,122561.0.html[/url])

...do their opinions even COUNT?


It cracks me up that these guys talk about sex like its even an OPTION for them.


It cracks me up that instead of going there to their board and confront them, you guys sit there on your asses and do nothing but complain in the safety of your little board.

Dora Milaje seems to be the only one with balls enough to do it


Why so defensive? Strike a nerve?


No, I just find it funny how people everywhere on all boards talk the talk but are afraid to walk the walk.


Ah yes, "proving" internet manhood. That's a worthy goal. Moron.


Like I said, if you intend to talk the talk then you should also be prepared to walk the walk.

I've only seen you do the talking


You seem to be confused. You dance to amuse me, not the other way around.

Now squeal again, troll.


bwahahhahahaha whatever loser


Dance little troll, Dance!

Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Sinister8578 on January 08, 2007, 08:38:34 am
One thing I've found about the internet...is the multiple cases of people calling people out: "Walk the walk....." and not knowing how beat there asses would be if they met some of the people they talk sh*t to. I've met some people who've talked big sh*t about me in person....it mostly ends with them studdering all over themselves and saying "I didn't mean it that way man." I agree with sinjection completely with the root causes of all this....racism. By the way happy birthday Jenn. Represent the D!
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 08:40:28 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/rattlerbrat82/DAL_406.gif)

ALL DAY, EVERY DAY!!!!! (Even with that punk ass Romo f*cking up the last game of the season!!!!)
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Hulkster on January 08, 2007, 12:20:44 pm
Well, seems that they are not short on Hudlin bashing threads:

http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=123166&highlight
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=120644&highlight
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=117949&highlight
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=105778&highlight
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=102990&highlight
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=100663&highlight
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=97185&highlight
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=97075&highlight
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=94267&highlight

And here are their takes on blacks in general:

http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=109247&highlight
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=114686&highlight
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=91600&highlight
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=82110&highlight 
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=119346&sid=59536d7ac34127551661f10135506f00
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,116602.0.html
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,118357.0.html
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,100059.0.html
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=108897&sid=8794ee9a152ecf0c1318cdd0d8a41d44
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,99835.0.html
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1882962&sid=ec4822abccf963d2bcfcc836e11f19fe
0
http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=117186&highlight
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Mastrmynd on January 08, 2007, 12:27:59 pm
HOT DAYAM!!
they really don't like black folks, do they?

i can't read those threads 'cuz they make me mad and sad at the same time.
it is so dayam sad.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Yaw on January 08, 2007, 12:28:05 pm
Haha get out of here. Are you actually trying to portray Priest as the Sidney Poitres of comics?

Actually he was worse.  Feel free to take a look at the "What if ...Priest" post.  I talk about my thoughts on Priest's ways pretty extensively.  It's obvious we was constantly trying to appeal to the white comic book fan.

I read it, and that thread was filled with dumbass speculations

Feel free to add a dissenting point of view on the thread instead of baseless flames here...
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 08, 2007, 01:17:32 pm
Haha get out of here. Are you actually trying to portray Priest as the Sidney Poitres of comics?

Actually he was worse.  Feel free to take a look at the "What if ...Priest" post.  I talk about my thoughts on Priest's ways pretty extensively.  It's obvious we was constantly trying to appeal to the white comic book fan.

I read it, and that thread was filled with dumbass speculations

Feel free to add a dissenting point of view on the thread instead of baseless flames here...

They have already been covered
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Moose100 on January 08, 2007, 01:40:06 pm
Oh Sh!!!!! I only went onto comicboards and got dissent for one or two individuals.  This is a concerted effort by many!!! Just from ONE comic!!!
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Yaw on January 08, 2007, 01:41:33 pm
Haha get out of here. Are you actually trying to portray Priest as the Sidney Poitres of comics?

Actually he was worse.  Feel free to take a look at the "What if ...Priest" post.  I talk about my thoughts on Priest's ways pretty extensively.  It's obvious we was constantly trying to appeal to the white comic book fan.

I read it, and that thread was filled with dumbass speculations

Feel free to add a dissenting point of view on the thread instead of baseless flames here...

They have already been covered

What has been covered you have offered nothing on the "What if.." thread.  You have only added baseless flames in this thread.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 08, 2007, 01:53:39 pm
Haha get out of here. Are you actually trying to portray Priest as the Sidney Poitres of comics?

Actually he was worse.  Feel free to take a look at the "What if ...Priest" post.  I talk about my thoughts on Priest's ways pretty extensively.  It's obvious we was constantly trying to appeal to the white comic book fan.

I read it, and that thread was filled with dumbass speculations

Feel free to add a dissenting point of view on the thread instead of baseless flames here...

They have already been covered

What has been covered you have offered nothing on the "What if.." thread.  You have only added baseless flames in this thread.

I meant that as in others have already covered it
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: BlackRodimus on January 08, 2007, 02:45:04 pm
Well, seems that they are not short on Hudlin bashing threads:

[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=123166&highlight[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=120644&highlight[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=117949&highlight[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=105778&highlight[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=102990&highlight[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=100663&highlight[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=97185&highlight[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=97075&highlight[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=94267&highlight[/url]

And here are their takes on blacks in general:

[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=109247&highlight[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=114686&highlight[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=91600&highlight[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=82110&highlight [/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=119346&sid=59536d7ac34127551661f10135506f00[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,116602.0.html[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,118357.0.html[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,100059.0.html[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=108897&sid=8794ee9a152ecf0c1318cdd0d8a41d44[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,99835.0.html[/url]
[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1882962&sid=ec4822abccf963d2bcfcc836e11f19fe[/url]
0
[url]http://herochat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=117186&highlight[/url]



Wow. They've pretty much declared war on black people. This mod, "Clark Kent" is basically like "Eh...its wrong, but I'll allow it."

The "best" was the circle jerk everyone was giving themselves over making jokes about who could beat Kunte Kinte the best. And that the few descenters are the ones with the problem, that THEY should be mature and join in??? I wonder if these guys are half as hard in real life as they try to come across on the net.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 05:51:29 pm
Wow. They've pretty much declared war on black people.


No shock there.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/rattlerbrat82/MOats.jpg)

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with his opinion, and he's free to feel however he wants. It just disappoints me that "nigger" is always the go-to insult when a black person is concerned. So unoriginal. We're a pretty progressive race of people - haven't we earned a new slur yet? How OLD is nigger? We've sent men to the moon and have pens that write underwater and cars that don't needs gasoline to run, but white folks are still using the same tired-ass slur?

(Naturally, someone came in and locked the thread, but not until much, much later. Poor little crackerbrats. Never able to take what they dish out so freely. And mind you, *I'm* still the one getting the most sh*t.)

ETA: Dammit, the MINUTE I posted...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/rattlerbrat82/MoL.jpg)

You'll all pardon me if I don't exactly fling myself off a cliff...hang on, another PM! Methinks that MoL wasn't too pleased with my response!
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Thatguy on January 08, 2007, 05:59:29 pm
Quote
Wow. They've pretty much declared war on black people.


No shock there.

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/rattlerbrat82/MOats.jpg[/url])

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with his opinion, and he's free to feel however he wants. It just disappoints me that "nigger" is always the go-to insult when a black person is concerned. So unoriginal. We're a pretty progressive race of people - haven't we earned a new slur yet? How OLD is nigger? We've sent men to the moon and have pens that write underwater and cars that don't needs gasoline to run, but white folks are still using the same tired-ass slur?

(Naturally, someone came in and locked the thread, but not until much, much later. Poor little crackerbrats. Never able to take what they dish out so freely. And mind you, *I'm* still the one getting the most sh*t.)


Some of the attitudes expressed at the Heroescat were terribly disrespectful and borderline racist at best, agreed. That's why I drifted to the outside of the discussion towards the end.

But in the interests of fairness, you're hardly exempt on that regard, Dora Milaje. As of yet, you haven't explained why dating a white man is disrespectful to your father.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 06:01:19 pm
But in the interests of fairness, you're hardly exempt on that regard, Dora Milaje. As of yet, you haven't explained why dating a white man is disrespectful to your father.

That's right; I haven't.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Thatguy on January 08, 2007, 06:12:58 pm
And why might that be?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 06:15:13 pm
Because I don't have to. That's pretty much all it boils down to. The more someone speaks to me as if I owe him some sort of explanation, the more determined I get not to give it to him. I don't owe anybody jack sh*t, and if I want to make a statement and not expound on it to a bunch of whiny ass entitled crackerbrats who apparently are DEVASTATED that I have no desire to be some white man's exotic chocolate jungle bunny fantasy, I can. Now, run your ass back to the plantation and tell them exactly what I said.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Yaw on January 08, 2007, 06:26:08 pm

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/rattlerbrat82/MOats.jpg[/url])



Honestly, I find this funny as hell...

In my time I've only had white dudes yell that slur at me (grew up in Dallas, TX) while throwing empty beer bottles.  It's generally not very funny in that context.  But this...  I wish I could here them saying something like this among themselves.  This is some funny stuff.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 06:29:03 pm
You're from Dallas!?!? I am too!!!!!!!! What high school, and when did you graduate? We moved out to the boonies and I wound up at North Mesquite from 1996 to 2000. The good thing about NMHS is that white folks hated black folks so much (and vice versa) that they didn't even bother acknowledging our existence - which was WAY better than today's method of bothering the f*ck out of you and not shutting the hell up EVER. Then again, the alternative was either Woodrow Wilson or Bryan Adams High School (School motto: "Hey, It Beats a GED!").

Honestly, I find this funny as hell...

Oh, the funnier part is later in the thread. Nothing is funnier than white people trying to justify calling black people niggers. His argument is that him calling me a nigger is the same thing as me saying that I don't date white men. Riiiiiiiiiight.

Quote
In my time I've only had white dudes yell that slur at me (grew up in Dallas, TX) while throwing empty beer bottles.  It's generally not very funny in that context.

No sh*t. I don't know what makes people think that Dallas is so integrated. Bullsh*t. Black people are from like...three neighborhoods in Dallas, and all of them are located in the 5th f*cking level of Hell. Everyone else? White and Mexican. If we hadn't had the Mexicans, living anywhere in Dallas County would've been completely unbearable.

Quote
But this...  I wish I could here them saying something like this among themselves.  This is some funny stuff.

What kills me is how black people are automatically supposed to flip out and lose our sh*t just because some dumb white kid tried to be controversial. As if we've never been called niggers before. C'mon, now. Step your racism game up, son! Impress me!
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: kitamu Re on January 08, 2007, 06:34:15 pm
Quote
That's right; I haven't.


that was priceless...thatguy was patting himself on the back the other day calling himself the president of the hudlin haters fan club..thatguy and his ilk remind me of moldy bread ;D
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Gooch on January 08, 2007, 06:35:41 pm
Quote
Wow. They've pretty much declared war on black people.


No shock there.

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/rattlerbrat82/MOats.jpg[/url])

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with his opinion, and he's free to feel however he wants. It just disappoints me that "nigger" is always the go-to insult when a black person is concerned. So unoriginal. We're a pretty progressive race of people - haven't we earned a new slur yet? How OLD is nigger? We've sent men to the moon and have pens that write underwater and cars that don't needs gasoline to run, but white folks are still using the same tired-ass slur?

(Naturally, someone came in and locked the thread, but not until much, much later. Poor little crackerbrats. Never able to take what they dish out so freely. And mind you, *I'm* still the one getting the most sh*t.)


Some of the attitudes expressed at the Heroescat were terribly disrespectful and borderline racist at best, agreed. That's why I drifted to the outside of the discussion towards the end.

But in the interests of fairness, you're hardly exempt on that regard, Dora Milaje. As of yet, you haven't explained why dating a white man is disrespectful to your father.




If that is bullsh*t they had to say over there was borferline racist, I sure as hell would hate to see what you think is full blown racist,  oh wait, your the guy on comicboards who think everything that Hudlin says or does with BP is racist.  Now i get it.    :o
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Griminal Intentions on January 08, 2007, 06:40:10 pm
Tony Romowned!

(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/arash_markazi/01/07/romo.cowboys1/p1.romo3.ap.jpg)
BTW black people are all over Dallas. Just becauase you only ran in the Cliff or PG doesn't mean some of us aren't in those "other" places.

Then again some of us don't like to insulate ourselves with only other black people.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 06:41:51 pm
And your point is...what?

that was priceless...thatguy was patting himself on the back the other day calling himself the president of the hudlin haters fan club..

Hey, everybody has to have a goal. Some of us want to be doctors, other lawyers, and still others want to be the King of Haters when it comes to a guy who can buy and sell their pathetic asses. Can't knock the hustle.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Gooch on January 08, 2007, 06:43:32 pm
man i haven't seen so many trolls since the war in korea
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Griminal Intentions on January 08, 2007, 06:44:08 pm
man i haven't seen so many trolls since the war in korea
You were in Korea?  My Great uncle was too!  What unit?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 06:44:56 pm
man i haven't seen so many trolls since the war in korea

I give HeroChat credit for sending over their Token Negro, myself. Perhaps this is a part of their inevitable "black people versus niggers" argument. I just wonder if Griminal is being paid with fried chicken, watermelon or malt liquor.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on January 08, 2007, 06:45:23 pm
Some of the attitudes expressed at the Heroescat were terribly disrespectful and borderline racist at best, agreed. That's why I drifted to the outside of the discussion towards the end.

Borderline?  I don't suppose you challenged any of them on their "borderline racist" views?  You know what, never mind.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 06:46:52 pm
I don't suppose you challenged any of them on their "borderline racist" views?

Of COURSE not! That was my job! Or something.  ::)
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on January 08, 2007, 06:49:11 pm
Then again some of us don't like to insulate ourselves with only other black people.
Or any other black people.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: supreme illuminati on January 08, 2007, 06:54:42 pm
We should be so lucky.  ::)

God, I wish the crackerbrats would step their game up. They all do the same sh*t. Come in, make stupid comments, try that 'reverse racism' sh*t, cry that we treat them mean, and then leave. f*ck, crackerbrats - do a trick or something. Bring some food. Say something RELEVANT. Anything other than the same STUPID sh*t. We're starting to get bored with y'all.

The funny thing is Lady Zulu: That Since I've arrived, I haven't even spoken up a WORD about Hudlin or his run on Black Panther.

And still you call me white, crackerbrat and sh*t like that.

So the question is: Where did you come up with the conclusion that I "am a white male who fears the black man and his role as my equal"?

One thing I've found about the internet...is the multiple cases of people calling people out: "Walk the walk....." and not knowing how beat there asses would be if they met some of the people they talk sh*t to. I've met some people who've talked big sh*t about me in person....it mostly ends with them studdering all over themselves and saying "I didn't mean it that way man." I agree with sinjection completely with the root causes of all this....racism. By the way happy birthday Jenn. Represent the D!


whatup Ammar,I am the Supreme Illuminati.Happy Bday Dora.Whas crackalackalatin,big sinjection?! you know we missed you big dawg!

Very brief ILLUMINATION (well,at least for me,anyway,lol):

In regards to board to board battle...there are many and plenty of HEFfers whom have slain innumerable foolish mortals in some of the most duanting and ignorant wastes of the internet hinterlands.These include Dora,bluezulu,Yaw,Grim,sinjection,and many more..since I responded to a similar request in a similar thread on this page,if you would look about you would find a more comprehensive listing.Simply roam about onsite,and you will find many questions answered before you posed them. I assure you,there are no lack of intellectual juggernauts here,and categorically no hesitance in regard to the convictions we collectively share or the will to defend them against all comers,in the most literal sense.

Furthermore,in my experience,the individuals whom I have found to be the most verbally nauseating are almost always the same people whom would NEVER have the pluck,the character,the courage to spew their stupidities in the immediate presence of those whom they are disparaging.I assure you that more than 90% of those whom tend toward this behaviour would find that if they spoke aloud their stupidities to the group whom they defame--particular Black people--the results would be very painful for the offender.That's why these keyboard cowards hide behind their computer screens and spew their venom...and this very action for the most part (not every time,but almost every time) automatically marks them as beneath our notice.I wouldn't even deign to allow them to dirty my knuckles with their faces...as I utilize my skills upon those whom are worthy of the abilities I and others have honed in such endeavors. Conversely,those whom DO have the strength of their convictions tend NOT to behave like these ludicrous children whom indulge in threads like those highlighted here in this discussion.Endeth illumination.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Yaw on January 08, 2007, 06:56:13 pm
You're from Dallas!?!? I am too!!!!!!!! What high school, and when did you graduate? We moved out to the boonies and I wound up at North Mesquite from 1996 to 2000. The good thing about NMHS is that white folks hated black folks so much (and vice versa) that they didn't even bother acknowledging our existence - which was WAY better than today's method of bothering the f*ck out of you and not shutting the hell up EVER.

Eww Mesquite.  I'm sorry.  :'(  But I wasn't too far away.  I grew up in SE Dallas, Pleasant Grove.  My neighborhood high school was Samuel but I went to Skyline and graduated in 96.

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Oh, the funnier part is later in the thread. Nothing is funnier than white people trying to justify calling black people niggers. His argument is that him calling me a nigger is the same thing as me saying that I don't date white men. Riiiiiiiiiight.

Of course it is.  Not making yourself freely available to white people is the ultimate sin.  It makes you a racist and bigot.  My high school Mexican teacher who married a white woman compared me to the KKK when I told him I dont date white girls.  I sure as hell didn't say about what he should be doing but it was sure ok for him to make that comparison.

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No sh*t. I don't know what makes people think that Dallas is so integrated. Bullsh*t. Black people are from like...three neighborhoods in Dallas, and all of them are located in the 5th f*cking level of Hell. Everyone else? White and Mexican. If we hadn't had the Mexicans, living anywhere in Dallas County would've been completely unbearable.

Yeah it wasn't that bad where I lived during my day.  My parents said when they first moved to the neighborhood it was a lower income all white community.  So cleaning eggs off  the house thrown by neighborhood kids was pretty common.  It came to a head when my older brother was a baby and a brick was thrown through the window and almost hit him.  My dad lost it and got the shotgun and chased down some kids lol.  By the time I came on the scene there were more blacks and mexicans in the neighborhood.  By the time I hit highschool it was mostly a black/mexican neighborhood.  Now I here the old neighborhood is Little Mexico.


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What kills me is how black people are automatically supposed to flip out and lose our sh*t just because some dumb white kid tried to be controversial. As if we've never been called niggers before. C'mon, now. Step your racism game up, son! Impress me!

yeah its hard for me to get pissed at some racist remarks.  I only get riled up when physical danger is involved.  But yeah "nigger" is so weak of an insult.  It's like someone says the word and a black person's world is suppose to just go quiet for a sec and then they just get mad.  Eff that. Try harder.  I grew up playing the dozens.  If that is all you got then when I start talking about you and yo momma, you are going to start crying (or swinging).
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Griminal Intentions on January 08, 2007, 06:57:43 pm
So would that be a 1 or 2 lux illumination?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Yaw on January 08, 2007, 07:00:09 pm
Some of the attitudes expressed at the Heroescat were terribly disrespectful and borderline racist at best, agreed. That's why I drifted to the outside of the discussion towards the end.

Borderline?  I don't suppose you challenged any of them on their "borderline racist" views?  You know what, never mind.

you know I was thinking the same thing.  seriously "borderline racist at best?"  That speaks volumes about his mentality.  thanks Cool thatguy for sharing.  I now have a better picture of how you think.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: supreme illuminati on January 08, 2007, 07:08:32 pm

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Honestly, I find this funny as hell...

In my time I've only had white dudes yell that slur at me (grew up in Dallas, TX) while throwing empty beer bottles.  It's generally not very funny in that context.  But this...  I wish I could here them saying something like this among themselves.  This is some funny stuff.


I had a similar experience some years ago while in High School in Downey California...which,at the time,had the highest concentration of Klansmen in the Middle Cities (heads like RH and I whom live out here knows that the Middle Cities comprise areas like Carson,Torrance,Downey,Compton--the mian hub city--and others).Alas for the 4 offenders,not only did I manage to snare one of the hurled bottles,I was and remain a sprinter.This bodes particularly poorly for you if you're NOT a sprinter and within 800 meters of me.What occured was precisely the kind of painfully physical revelation that I alluded to earlier,should the intellectually insufficient persons from HeroChat be so foolish as to voice their disdain aloud in the presence of a Black person whom is predisposed to disapprove of them...intensely.
So would that be a 1 or 2 lux illumination?


This would not be a 1 or 2 lux illumination,my friend...but the suprerme form of illumination.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Thatguy on January 08, 2007, 07:09:09 pm
Some of the attitudes expressed at the Heroescat were terribly disrespectful and borderline racist at best, agreed. That's why I drifted to the outside of the discussion towards the end.

Borderline?  I don't suppose you challenged any of them on their "borderline racist" views?  You know what, never mind.

you know I was thinking the same thing.  seriously "borderline racist at best?"  That speaks volumes about his mentality.  thanks Cool thatguy for sharing.  I now have a better picture of how you think.

Yeah, means I don't give a damn to defend Hudlin, a man who proudly race baits to deflect all critics of his writing. Such a coward of a man he had to create the handle 'Muddy Boots', rather than stand by his opinions. Hudlin's more than brought it on himself. He's reaped what he's sown, and I really don't care to stand inbetween that, no matter how bored.

And once again, I see a fandom here all too ready to drink the Kool-Aid. As of yet, no one has challenged Dora's statement that dating white men would be disrespectful to her father. Says alot more about the people posting here than my general indifference to a writer destroying a character I like.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Griminal Intentions on January 08, 2007, 07:10:32 pm

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This would not be a 1 or 2 lux illumination,my friend...but the suprerme form of illumination.

Jesus after resurrection?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: supreme illuminati on January 08, 2007, 07:14:01 pm
Can someone clarify how Grim is the "token black guy". The insuation that he is the only black poster at HC.

Does the number of Black people on a board that insults same with regularity and passion translate into some form of relevance? Perhaps the fact that I eschew these kinds of interactions and board to board/board v board "discussions" impacts my understanding here,but...why do/would we care about opinions that are so mired in ignorance,racism,childishness,and the like that we would take time from our more productive schedules to respond? Those whom are swayed by such drivel,I would assume,deserve whatever the consequences are,and basically good riddance.

Some of the attitudes expressed at the Heroescat were terribly disrespectful and borderline racist at best, agreed. That's why I drifted to the outside of the discussion towards the end.

Borderline?  I don't suppose you challenged any of them on their "borderline racist" views?  You know what, never mind.

you know I was thinking the same thing.  seriously "borderline racist at best?"  That speaks volumes about his mentality.  thanks Cool thatguy for sharing.  I now have a better picture of how you think.

Yeah, means I don't give a damn to defend Hudlin, a man who proudly race baits to deflect all critics of his writing. Such a coward of a man he had to create the handle 'Muddy Boots', rather than stand by his opinions. Hudlin's more than brought it on himself. He's reaped what he's sown, and I really don't care to stand inbetween that, no matter how bored.

And once again, I see a fandom here all too ready to drink the Kool-Aid. As of yet, no one has challenged Dora's statement that dating white men would be disrespectful to her father. Says alot more about the people posting here than my general indifference to a writer destroying a character I like.

Thatguy,what is your name? I only ask because you are calling RH cowardly for engaging in precisely the kind of anonymity and priviledge that you and I and millions upon millions of other internet users engage upon routinely.In fact,a major aspect of the appeal of the internet is the psuedo-fantasy of screen names that are imaginative and provide a form of anonymity that we don't enjoy in our daily lives.If you are to disrespect RH for doing what you are doing now--voicing your thoughts behind a screen name--then you are simultaneously disrespecting yourself.Have you thought of that? I am genuinely interested in your response.I believe you might recall that I am even tempered and I honestly mean the questions that I ask,without malice.

Btw,my name is Ras.Jambo...one and all.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on January 08, 2007, 07:30:46 pm
Some of the attitudes expressed at the Heroescat were terribly disrespectful and borderline racist at best, agreed. That's why I drifted to the outside of the discussion towards the end.

Borderline?  I don't suppose you challenged any of them on their "borderline racist" views?  You know what, never mind.

you know I was thinking the same thing.  seriously "borderline racist at best?"  That speaks volumes about his mentality.  thanks Cool thatguy for sharing.  I now have a better picture of how you think.

Yeah, means I don't give a damn to defend Hudlin, a man who proudly race baits to deflect all critics of his writing. Such a coward of a man he had to create the handle 'Muddy Boots', rather than stand by his opinions. Hudlin's more than brought it on himself. He's reaped what he's sown, and I really don't care to stand inbetween that, no matter how bored.

And once again, I see a fandom here all too ready to drink the Kool-Aid. As of yet, no one has challenged Dora's statement that dating white men would be disrespectful to her father. Says alot more about the people posting here than my general indifference to a writer destroying a character I like.
I thank you for showing your true colors, as it were.  Every now and then you get to see the naked truth.  Unfortunately, it's not even shocking but it is revealing. 
Dora's statement is her choice, plain and simple.  It requires no challenge nor explanation. 
I don't think I have anything else to say to you.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: BlackRodimus on January 08, 2007, 07:42:16 pm
Ha! Cool! I got mentioned! Hi chad! No, wait, I gotta do it like him and say "Dear" and "Sweetheart".  Yeah, being condescending makes you look TOUGH! Right chad? Honey?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: supreme illuminati on January 08, 2007, 07:50:08 pm
Ha! Cool! I got mentioned! Hi chad! No, wait, I gotta do it like him and say "Dear" and "Sweetheart".  Yeah, being condescending makes you look TOUGH! Right chad? Honey?


Hahahaha!!
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Thatguy on January 08, 2007, 07:51:29 pm
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I thank you for showing your true colors, as it were.  Every now and then you get to see the naked truth.  Unfortunately, it's not even shocking but it is revealing.  
Dora's statement is her choice, plain and simple.  It requires no challenge nor explanation.  
I don't think I have anything else to say to you.

I'm not argueing that she need find white men attractive. Indeed, the fact that someone somehow be required to find only someone of the same ethnic ground attarctive offends me to my core. Who you love is who you love. Outside obvious extremes (minors, animals and the mentally handicap), society should have no say over your heart.

Rather, I'm asking why dating a white man would be disrespectful to her father, and one presumes, her family and herself.

[quoteThatguy,what is your name? I only ask because you are calling RH cowardly for engaging in precisely the kind of anonymity and priviledge that you and I and millions upon millions of other internet users engage upon routinely.In fact,a major aspect of the appeal of the internet is the psuedo-fantasy of screen names that are imaginative and provide a form of anonymity that we don't enjoy in our daily lives.If you are to disrespect RH for doing what you are doing now--voicing your thoughts behind a screen name--then you are simultaneously disrespecting yourself.Have you thought of that? I am genuinely interested in your response.I believe you might recall that I am even tempered and I honestly mean the questions that I ask,without malice.

Btw,my name is Ras.Jambo...one and all.][/quote]

You bring up a valid point, S.I., and I'm inclined to agree with you, to a degree. I keep my name concealed because I've heard one too many stories about data miners, bosses who dreg up what employees do online, etc. to really feel comfortable using my given name freely. As a result and unlike Hudlin, I don't have to carry the burden of what I say online in public. However, there are two important differences between us.

First, I'm well aware of the questionable honesty of my using a screen name. That's why I make a point to use some variation of 'Thatguy' on whatever board I use and use only that name. I've done it on heroes, here, newsarama, heroes board and others I'm forgetting. Anything I've said, I stand by.

Second, lets suppose somehow (impossibly as we're referring to opinion) I were 100% right about my opinions on Hudlin's writing. Even if I were, it wouldn't matter one damn bit. I disappear online tomorrow and few would care. I'm just another face in the crowd.

Hudlin, isn't, by any means. Mr. Hudlin is the book's writer, a man of much higher status with regards to the book and much higher profile, inside the comicbook industry and outside. Everyone who knows of the book knows Mr. Hudlin, and therefor pretending to be someone else in addition to himself is a cowardly act. I've made a point to state that Hudlin isn't morally required to answer his critics, but I do feel that when he answers his critics (and that's being kind to his Muddy Boots actions), he ought to stand by his opinions.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: BlackRodimus on January 08, 2007, 07:51:38 pm
Some of the attitudes expressed at the Heroescat were terribly disrespectful and borderline racist at best, agreed. That's why I drifted to the outside of the discussion towards the end.

Borderline?  I don't suppose you challenged any of them on their "borderline racist" views?  You know what, never mind.

you know I was thinking the same thing.  seriously "borderline racist at best?"  That speaks volumes about his mentality.  thanks Cool thatguy for sharing.  I now have a better picture of how you think.

Yeah, means I don't give a damn to defend Hudlin, a man who proudly race baits to deflect all critics of his writing. Such a coward of a man he had to create the handle 'Muddy Boots', rather than stand by his opinions.

Sounds like he did that to screw with his haters, and judging by your post...it worked!

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Hudlin's more than brought it on himself. He's reaped what he's sown, and I really don't care to stand inbetween that, no matter how bored.

Brought what on himself? He's still employed, he's still writing BP. Sounds like your issue is with Joey Q, the man who could put into process Hudlin getting fired. Good luck with that.

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And once again, I see a fandom here all too ready to drink the Kool-Aid. As of yet, no one has challenged Dora's statement that dating white men would be disrespectful to her father. Says alot more about the people posting here than my general indifference to a writer destroying a character I like.

Why SHOULD someone challenge Dora's statement? Cause you say so? You hope to change her mind? Why? You want to feel justified, pop in your favorite porn tape or something, but don't look for it here.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on January 08, 2007, 08:21:58 pm
Rather, I'm asking why dating a white man would be disrespectful to her father, and one presumes, her family and herself.
You can ask.  She declined to answer.  End of story.  Any conclusions you draw about that fact pattern is speculation.

Hudlin, isn't, by any means. Mr. Hudlin is the book's writer, a man of much higher status with regards to the book and much higher profile, inside the comicbook industry and outside. Everyone who knows of the book knows Mr. Hudlin, and therefor pretending to be someone else in addition to himself is a cowardly act. I've made a point to state that Hudlin isn't morally required to answer his critics, but I do feel that when he answers his critics (and that's being kind to his Muddy Boots actions), he ought to stand by his opinions.
If he were only answering critics via alias or saying something different than he has openly stated, you might have a point.  As that is not the case, I'm willing to take him at his word that the Muddy Boots incident was a error in judgment on his part that he won't be repeating.  Where you ascribe cowardice, I simply see a mistake.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: supreme illuminati on January 08, 2007, 08:27:15 pm
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I thank you for showing your true colors, as it were.  Every now and then you get to see the naked truth.  Unfortunately, it's not even shocking but it is revealing.  
Dora's statement is her choice, plain and simple.  It requires no challenge nor explanation.  
I don't think I have anything else to say to you.

I'm not argueing that she need find white men attractive. Indeed, the fact that someone somehow be required to find only someone of the same ethnic ground attarctive offends me to my core. Who you love is who you love. Outside obvious extremes (minors, animals and the mentally handicap), society should have no say over your heart.

Rather, I'm asking why dating a white man would be disrespectful to her father, and one presumes, her family and herself.

[quoteThatguy,what is your name? I only ask because you are calling RH cowardly for engaging in precisely the kind of anonymity and priviledge that you and I and millions upon millions of other internet users engage upon routinely.In fact,a major aspect of the appeal of the internet is the psuedo-fantasy of screen names that are imaginative and provide a form of anonymity that we don't enjoy in our daily lives.If you are to disrespect RH for doing what you are doing now--voicing your thoughts behind a screen name--then you are simultaneously disrespecting yourself.Have you thought of that? I am genuinely interested in your response.I believe you might recall that I am even tempered and I honestly mean the questions that I ask,without malice.

Btw,my name is Ras.Jambo...one and all.]


You bring up a valid point, S.I., and I'm inclined to agree with you, to a degree. I keep my name concealed because I've heard one too many stories about data miners, bosses who dreg up what employees do online, etc. to really feel comfortable using my given name freely. As a result and unlike Hudlin, I don't have to carry the burden of what I say online in public. However, there are two important differences between us.

First, I'm well aware of the questionable honesty of my using a screen name. That's why I make a point to use some variation of 'Thatguy' on whatever board I use and use only that name. I've done it on heroes, here, newsarama, heroes board and others I'm forgetting. Anything I've said, I stand by.

Second, lets suppose somehow (impossibly as we're referring to opinion) I were 100% right about my opinions on Hudlin's writing. Even if I were, it wouldn't matter one damn bit. I disappear online tomorrow and few would care. I'm just another face in the crowd.

Hudlin, isn't, by any means. Mr. Hudlin is the book's writer, a man of much higher status with regards to the book and much higher profile, inside the comicbook industry and outside. Everyone who knows of the book knows Mr. Hudlin, and therefor pretending to be someone else in addition to himself is a cowardly act. I've made a point to state that Hudlin isn't morally required to answer his critics, but I do feel that when he answers his critics (and that's being kind to his Muddy Boots actions), he ought to stand by his opinions.
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Firstly,thank you for your response,Thatguy...I appreciate the lucidity and calmness and honesty that your response demonstrated.I hope to look forward to more discussions with you that reveal more of the same.

Obviously,we differ on how we look at RH's actions.We both agree that it was at least an ill-advised action on his part (and we aren't the only ones,as there was an entire thread to that very thing which emphasized our disagreement with the action) but we disagree with it for different reasons.I would say that Muddy Boots simply provided RH an option to express what surely must be some seething annoyances with the fanbratti collective.I would agree with you that RH's profile is significantly higher than most internet posters,but I would point out that this places restrictions on on'e's actions that are simply not there for you and I...restrictions that could and would impact the manner and method and even forthrightness of RH's responses. I would ask you to consider,Thatguy,the following perspective:

RH has been ridiculed by many internet ignoramuses whom have spewed all manner of unsubstantiated foolishness about him and his book since its inception...including personal attacks and the most preposterous claims about the book,what is written about it,and in particular the racism of RH and the quality of his writing.The reasons that I bring this perspective up and keep emphasizing it is because none of us comic fans are actually EMPLOYED by the comic industry,so the reactions of fans to a new offering like BP is important not only to the integrity of the artists involved but also to the bottom line check that each receives for their endeavors.Posters like you and I and 99.9% of RH BP haters are not employed by MU,so we are free to spray whatever drivel we wish without reflection of the ramifications.I would submit,Thatguy,that were you to be roundly criticized by persons whom are thoroughly unaware of your work,and said criticism also included direct attacks upon your person i n the most offensive ways imaginable FOR YEARS...and this ignorace was indeed seeping into sites and areas that you frequent,and which could actually poison the minds of impressionable new readers against the quality of human being you are and the quality of the material you produce...well,you might be more than a little miffed too.I would say that there are quite a few internet people whom are defaming RH mercilessly and without consideration for fact or truth or honest reflection. Recall that there are many more whom RH would perforce be aware of--being in the industry of comics--whom are defaming him than those whom you and I would be aware of whom are engaging in the same kind of behaviour. I would daresay that you and I and anyone else whom is committed to their craft would find this more than a little unfair,and could understandably be upset and need to express ourselves in a forthright,uncompromising fashion.Frankly,I would do the same.However,because of RH's position,it would oftentimes be seen as impolitic for him to do what we do,and that is where I think the main thrust of our differing opinions on this issue is.I acknowledge that RH should speak his mind whichever way he sees fit--which he largely has--but his posts as Muddy Boots were dead on target as far as objective data is concerned.Bottom line: nobody has done or could do for BP what RH has done.If they could,they would have already.Nobody could make BP as important in the MU as RH has...or else it would have happened already.If you care for BP,I would assume that you would be pleased to see the infinitely higher profile and respect level that he has as a DIRECT RESULT OF RH and ONLY RH.Whether or not you disagree with RH...the ramifications of his actions have brought more respect for the CHARACTER OF BP and a SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER PROFILE FOR BP.This can ONLY RESULT IN GOOD THINGS.Would you not concede that point? Or would you prefer the Pre-PRIEST BP that resulted in him being basically humiliated month in and month out and treated as a C-lister at best...in his OWN BOOK?

Would you agree,Thatguy,that RH's engineering of a vastly amplified profile for BP is very good for him? Would you also agree,Thatguy,that it's quite difficult to actually get a grasp of a person's TRUE PERSONALITY via the internet in these kinds of forums and communities...wherein anonymity is a main and primary feature of the interactions engaged in? If we can agree upon that,then we CANNOT make damning PERSONAL ATTACKS upon RH or basically anybody else...because we already concede that we don't KNOW THE PERSON.We can pass our opinions about how we interpret their actions.We can cite posts.We can argue and debate about various posts and scripts.I can't conclude with any form of iron-clad rigidity anything about the PERSON POSTING unless they behave in a truly consistent and difficult to dispute way...and only then I can only say that "(screen name inserted here) posts alot of THIS (cite the posts) while online in THIS WEBSITE (site website),and after reading these posts I conclude this and that about the validity/accuracy/whatever OF THE POSTS." But I can't conclude anything about their day to day behaviours...or their PRIVATE behavioursIn other words,I cna't say a word about THE REAL THEM.I can only comment about what they post online.That's all.Would you not agree that you are limited to the same parameters?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 08:41:27 pm
Yeah it wasn't that bad where I lived during my day.  My parents said when they first moved to the neighborhood it was a lower income all white community.


Same here, and I was blessed beyond belief to be from a two-parent household who worked opposite shifts. Not too sure my life would've gone had it just been my mother and me. Those mofos STAYED in my ass.
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I grew up playing the dozens.  If that is all you got then when I start talking about you and yo momma, you are going to start crying (or swinging).

YES! I say that I don't date white men. He calls me a nigger...and HE'S upset!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, means I don't give a damn to defend Hudlin, a man who proudly race baits to deflect all critics of his writing.

What does that have to do with the fact that I was called a nigger and you sat silently by? Yet you want to come up in here and act insulted? G'wan with that bullsh*t.

I'm not argueing that she need find white men attractive. Indeed, the fact that someone somehow be required to find only someone of the same ethnic ground attarctive offends me to my core.

And I should give a f*ck about your core...why?

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Rather, I'm asking why dating a white man would be disrespectful to her father, and one presumes, her family and herself.

Right. All of you white boys did it. Over and over and over. Actually, what you all did was DEMAND answers from me, followed by getting mad at the fact that you can't whip or rape an answer out of me. How dare I not be intimidated by your manly white manliness of white manhood. Bitch, please.

Oh, and for the record? My gub'mint name has ALWAYS been public knowledge since the DAY I became a professional writer. It's Jennifer Daniels, formerly of Africana (now AOL Black Voices) and currently of BET.com...and I still say whatever the f*ck I want to say, whenever the f*ck I want to say it. And I still by my sh*t, no matter what bitch ass white boys like you think about it, thatguy. Try it sometimes. Maybe next time you and your lily white fraternity (The He-Man Hudlin Hating Honkeys) come acress such an "uppity nigger", you won't flip your sh*t like you all did today.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Gooch on January 08, 2007, 09:07:21 pm
Maybe we should start attacking that guy the way he so berates any positive comment that one makes on comicboards.

Talking to him is much like beating your head against the wall over and over.   

Ask Moose.


He always says it is not about race ans yet  always works race into every one of his post.


Not to mention that the Anybody who actually likes this current run of hudlin's (I.e.  majority  who frequents this board)  he usually infers racism on their part.  Go to comic boards and look how many threads he has contributed to,

Poster a says :  the  sky is blue in panel 3  on page 4 of black  panther 23

That guy:  IT was blue until Hudlin touched it even though i have not read the book in months.   


This is obviously a parody of it but hey, it is better when i link to it:


http://www.comicboards.com/blackpanther/view.php?trd=061228211318

hell you can just go to http://www.comicboards.com/blackpanther and see how this cat rolls.(or should i say troll)

most long debates on the board are because the cat can never see when he has been bested in a debate.

He has three crutches he uses to defend anything besides coming with facts

1.  Hudlin went o his board as Muddy waters  (who the f*ck cares by the way)

2.  Hudlin is a racist (never seen a racist comment dropped directly out the mans mouth)


3.   Hudlin's  panther is not in continuity (where on a particular Joe Friday the man said(joe Q) the books original arc was to be a mini series that was not in continuity,  then   said the next couple of books on the marble knights line were slowly integrated into continuity)

I have seen Yaw school this fool with scans as proof, and some how he can still turn it into a race issue, before race is even mentioned.


All of his opinions of the entire African Diaspora are based off of his one black friend.   (see  African americans wanting to be buried in Africa).



I  am still rofl about the borderline racist comment.



Man i am glad my shift is over.   I would have spent way to much time clowning him. 

Oh well


Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Gooch on January 08, 2007, 09:09:13 pm
Oh yeah happy birthday  Jen ;,  imean dora
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 09:17:54 pm
(never seen a racist comment dropped directly out the mans mouth)

Seconded. Just because Hudlin doesn't go the "my best friend is white" route doesn't make him a racist. It just means that he (like I) could give less of a damn what entitlebrats on the Internet think about him in regards to race relations. If Hudlin is a racist, show us something that the man SAID. Not something you IMPLIED, or something your friend swore he read, or something on the old boards that Hudlin obviously crashed himself because he's SOOOOOOO afraid of crackerbrats (as if archive.org doesn't apply to SMF boards). Prove it or get your ass CLOWNED mercilessly. Those are the rules here. If you can't do A, then B applies by default.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: supreme illuminati on January 08, 2007, 09:28:55 pm

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/rattlerbrat82/MOats.jpg[/url])

This would not be a 1 or 2 lux illumination,my friend...but the suprerme form of illumination.


Jesus after resurrection?


"Jesus after resurrection?" No,supreme illuminati after posting...
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: kitamu Re on January 08, 2007, 09:55:08 pm
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I'm not argueing that she need find white men attractive. Indeed, the fact that someone somehow be required to find only someone of the same ethnic ground attarctive offends me to my core.

my father and mother would disown me if I ever came home home with a white woman, that would be the ULTIMATE insult.

oh and happy b-day Jenn :D
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 08, 2007, 09:56:25 pm
"Jesus after resurrection?" No,supreme illuminati after posting...

*hands thatguy some sunshades*
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: GrimSkill on January 08, 2007, 10:43:58 pm
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I'm not argueing that she need find white men attractive. Indeed, the fact that someone somehow be required to find only someone of the same ethnic ground attarctive offends me to my core.

my father and mother would disown me if I ever came home home with a white woman, that would be the ULTIMATE insult.

oh and happy b-day Jenn :D

Thats why I don't Bring Them Home,I keep em in the Dorm room and the back of my Car  ;) ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: GrimSkill on January 08, 2007, 10:45:56 pm
Tony Romowned!

([url]http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/arash_markazi/01/07/romo.cowboys1/p1.romo3.ap.jpg[/url])
BTW black people are all over Dallas. Just becauase you only ran in the Cliff or PG doesn't mean some of us aren't in those "other" places.

Then again some of us don't like to insulate ourselves with only other black people.


Ohhhhh HELL NO!!!

Change Your MOTHA#@^$ NAME!! Now!!! I Will NOT Be Confused with your Jucken and Jiven  House Negro @$$!!!!!
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: GrimSkill on January 08, 2007, 10:50:55 pm
Yeah it wasn't that bad where I lived during my day.  My parents said when they first moved to the neighborhood it was a lower income all white community.


Same here, and I was blessed beyond belief to be from a two-parent household who worked opposite shifts. Not too sure my life would've gone had it just been my mother and me. Those mofos STAYED in my ass.
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I grew up playing the dozens.  If that is all you got then when I start talking about you and yo momma, you are going to start crying (or swinging).

YES! I say that I don't date white men. He calls me a nigger...and HE'S upset!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, means I don't give a damn to defend Hudlin, a man who proudly race baits to deflect all critics of his writing.

What does that have to do with the fact that I was called a nigger and you sat silently by? Yet you want to come up in here and act insulted? G'wan with that bullsh*t.

I'm not argueing that she need find white men attractive. Indeed, the fact that someone somehow be required to find only someone of the same ethnic ground attarctive offends me to my core.

And I should give a f*ck about your core...why?

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Rather, I'm asking why dating a white man would be disrespectful to her father, and one presumes, her family and herself.

Right. All of you white boys did it. Over and over and over. Actually, what you all did was DEMAND answers from me, followed by getting mad at the fact that you can't whip or rape an answer out of me. How dare I not be intimidated by your manly white manliness of white manhood. Bitch, please.

Oh, and for the record? My gub'mint name has ALWAYS been public knowledge since the DAY I became a professional writer. It's Jennifer Daniels, formerly of Africana (now AOL Black Voices) and currently of BET.com...and I still say whatever the f*ck I want to say, whenever the f*ck I want to say it. And I still by my sh*t, no matter what bitch ass white boys like you think about it, thatguy. Try it sometimes. Maybe next time you and your lily white fraternity (The He-Man Hudlin Hating Honkeys) come acress such an "uppity nigger", you won't flip your sh*t like you all did today.

GOsh Dang!!! :o :o :D :D ;D ;D

The HHHH or the He-Man Hudlin Hating Honkeys comment had me Rolling  ;D ;D ;D ;D :D

I tried not to laugh but i KNOW for a fact they have and will say worse so what the ^#@$%& eva
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Static Froggy on January 08, 2007, 11:40:37 pm
Wow. some dudes feel REAL big behind a computer screen. Some of these comments are asinine. fools dont even READ the book and commenting on it, wtf?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Rutog98 on January 08, 2007, 11:44:04 pm
Wow. I have just read this whole thread. I had no idea this stuff was going on this badly on other threads. You have all of these racist jerks out there and I get banned from x-Fan for practically nothing?! These mods on these various boards have some serious double-standards. How they can sit there and allow white posters to call blacks racials slurs and to talk about Hudlin like that is an outrage. Yet, if I go on a board where the mods don't like Storm and debate the character using continuity, I get banned. So its worse for me to debate Storm than it is for these white posters to call blacks racial slurs and everything. Honestly, this board and one other are the only two I log onto. I have a SN on Newsarama and CBR, but I have probably made a grand total of 5 posts on those boards collectively.

Jenn, BTW, Magic Rabbit is a latina who considers herself a white girl. She identifies white. She posted this a while back before I was banned a year-and-a-half ago. I laughed when she posted that.

It does seem that if you are Black, you must "know your place" and just go along with what others think. Well, "seem" is understating it completely. Its a reality.

Guys, my whole thread about "Rugog98 and Comixfan/Xfan," disregard it. It is nothing compared to this. I was upset about it, but I never lost any sleep over it and its not major. This really puts things in perspective for me.

I know many whites feel this way, but they are not supposed to state it publically as it is politically incorrect to do so. Its supposed to be institutionalized and covert unless its under more private/closed instances, not so blatant as this. This has been my experience with it. I have not had any white guys throw things at me as some of you. I mean, I go for a walk at night and I get white guys driving by and calling me a slur, yeah, but outside of that, when I have experienced it, its been less obvious/in your face than that. Yet they log onto these boards and do this and mods stand idly by. They don't even bother doing the "politically correct thing." lol! Well, of course not, they feel the same way as the offensive posters.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: supreme illuminati on January 09, 2007, 01:41:27 am
Wow. I have just read this whole thread. I had no idea this stuff was going on this badly on other threads. You have all of these racist jerks out there and I get banned from x-Fan for practically nothing?! These mods on these various boards have some serious double-standards. How they can sit there and allow white posters to call blacks racials slurs and to talk about Hudlin like that is an outrage. Yet, if I go on a board where the mods don't like Storm and debate the character using continuity, I get banned. So its worse for me to debate Storm than it is for these white posters to call blacks racial slurs and everything. Honestly, this board and one other are the only two I log onto. I have a SN on Newsarama and CBR, but I have probably made a grand total of 5 posts on those boards collectively.

Jenn, BTW, Magic Rabbit is a latina who considers herself a white girl. She identifies white. She posted this a while back before I was banned a year-and-a-half ago. I laughed when she posted that.

It does seem that if you are Black, you must "know your place" and just go along with what others think. Well, "seem" is understating it completely. Its a reality.

Guys, my whole thread about "Rugog98 and Comixfan/Xfan," disregard it. It is nothing compared to this. I was upset about it, but I never lost any sleep over it and its not major. This really puts things in perspective for me.

I know many whites feel this way, but they are not supposed to state it publically as it is politically incorrect to do so. Its supposed to be institutionalized and covert unless its under more private/closed instances, not so blatant as this. This has been my experience with it. I have not had any white guys throw things at me as some of you. I mean, I go for a walk at night and I get white guys driving by and calling me a slur, yeah, but outside of that, when I have experienced it, its been less obvious/in your face than that. Yet they log onto these boards and do this and mods stand idly by. They don't even bother doing the "politically correct thing." lol! Well, of course not, they feel the same way as the offensive posters.


Wow,Rutog98...you read this WHOLE THREAD and even read more than one of my uberposts in the same thread? You have some Job-like patience and some Budhha level focus,gurl. I am impressed.Really.

Do you stay in California? Guys drive by you and call you racist slurs? so you've been hit with slur-bys too,huh?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 09, 2007, 04:05:20 am
Jenn, BTW, Magic Rabbit is a latina who considers herself a white girl.

Ahhh, the kind who is Latina during scholarship time? Yeah, I've met a lot of her kind.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Wise Son on January 09, 2007, 04:28:20 am
Ah yes, "proving" internet manhood. That's a worthy goal.
Exactly. Jenn does her thing, and that's cool, she's good at it and enjoys it. I, on the other hand, really do have far more important things to do.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 09, 2007, 04:43:43 am
Hey now! I'm gifted. I can handle business and smack fools at the same time.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Action Jackson on January 09, 2007, 04:59:35 am
And I should give a f*ck about your core...why?

Not to answer for him, but personally I like to avoid being a raging hypocrite.  I realize some might hold themselves to lower standards, as you obviously do, but there it is.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: BlackRodimus on January 09, 2007, 05:02:52 am
And I should give a f*ck about your core...why?

Not to answer for him, but personally I like to avoid being a raging hypocrite.  I realize some might hold themselves to lower standards, as you obviously do, but there it is.


Not to answer for her, but personally, I don't see why I need to prove a damn thing to someone on the net I'm never gonna see face to face. I realize some might need that kind of validation, as you obviously do, but there it is.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Action Jackson on January 09, 2007, 05:05:22 am
Not to answer for her, but personally, I don't see why I need to prove a damn thing to someone on the net I'm never gonna see face to face.

If you can do so, why wouldn't you?

Do you particularly enjoy looking like a hypocrite?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Jenn on January 09, 2007, 05:08:59 am
Do you particularly enjoy looking like a hypocrite?

According to who? You? Why is your opinion so important, n00b?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Mastrmynd on January 09, 2007, 05:09:32 am
Good Morning Action Jackson.
 Welcome to the HEF.
  So, what forum are you from?  And are you Pro or Anti-Panther?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: BlackRodimus on January 09, 2007, 05:13:09 am
Not to answer for her, but personally, I don't see why I need to prove a damn thing to someone on the net I'm never gonna see face to face.

If you can do so, why wouldn't you?

Do you particularly enjoy looking like a hypocrite?

lol Jenn beat me to it. I can't even give half a damn what I look like to YOU, or anyone else for that matter. Thought I made that clear with the first post. *shrugs* But still, happy hunting for that validation.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Wise Son on January 09, 2007, 05:16:49 am
Hey now! I'm gifted. I can handle business and smack fools at the same time.
Definitely. I'm just not as good at multi-tasking (believe me, I've been screwing up enough stuff lately), so I really can't distract myself by trying to wage a pointless flamewar.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Action Jackson on January 09, 2007, 05:17:32 am
Do you particularly enjoy looking like a hypocrite?

According to who? You? Why is your opinion so important, n00b?

Can you perhaps explain to me, Dora, why words are inherently more racist than actions?  The Oats guy typed a racial slur, while you openly hate white people and would never debase yourself by dating one.  He's a racist, and you are not.  Am I understanding this correctly?  If you would, I'd like to be walked through the your logical thought progression, step by step.  I've always heard that actions speak louder than words, but you clearly do not believe so.

I realize you have a bizarre aversion to answering questions, but I'd really like to understand where you're coming from.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: BlackRodimus on January 09, 2007, 05:19:57 am
Do you particularly enjoy looking like a hypocrite?

According to who? You? Why is your opinion so important, n00b?

Can you perhaps explain to me, Dora, why words are inherently more racist than actions?  The Oats guy typed a racial slur, while you openly hate white people and would never debase yourself by dating one.  He's a racist, and you are not.  Am I understanding this correctly?  If you would, I'd like to be walked through the your logical thought progression, step by step.  I've always heard that actions speak louder than words, but you clearly do not believe so.

I realize you have a bizarre aversion to answering questions, but I'd really like to understand where you're coming from.

Wow. You really think you're owed answers around here, huh?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Action Jackson on January 09, 2007, 05:21:12 am
lol Jenn beat me to it. I can't even give half a damn what I look like to YOU, or anyone else for that matter. Thought I made that clear with the first post. *shrugs* But still, happy hunting for that validation.

You misunderstand.  I'm not saying that you appear to be a hypocrite.  I'm saying that, as things stand, you ARE a hypocrite.  Undeniably, certifiably, and objectively, you are a hypocrite.  Now, if my words and actions proved me a hypocrite, but I knew there was an explanation for it, I would want to clarify.  Again, I understand that some people don't hold themselves to the same high standard.  I get that.

ON EDIT:

I had almost forgotten that you were replying in place of Dora.  I want to apologize for calling you a hypocrite.  I've not actually read enough of your posts to make such a judgment.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Action Jackson on January 09, 2007, 05:22:43 am
Wow. You really think you're owed answers around here, huh?

Like I said, I realize that she has an aversion to answering questions. 

I guess I'm not sure what I expected from a hypocritical racist.  Ever the optimist, I am.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: BlackRodimus on January 09, 2007, 05:24:39 am
He wants validation while being simultaneously judgemental. :D This is gonna be fun.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: sinjection on January 09, 2007, 05:27:42 am
 :)

It seems a veritable cacophony of caucasian malcontents has erupted and its reverberations are being felt throughout the Marvel Universe or at least, the comic book internet universe. Their discontent with Hudlin, the Black Panther, his "shotgun wedding" to Storm...everything that black man has done and that his black fans want him to do has just become intolerable and "everybody" just isn't going to take it anymore.

They wish.

I haven't yet read all of the posts in this thread. I see our dear brother supreme has been at it again. I'm such a slow reader, it will take me two days just to get halfway through one of his prodigious posts  :) I'm not even going to try to get up to speed with the particulars of what the "quacking ducks" are up to now. No doubt, it is just more of the same stupid or laughably forgettable nonsense they usually post when they feel that they have been stung by the "reverse racism" of Hudlin's Black Panther.

I did happen to glance at some of the messages being posted to that other board and quickly became bored while doing so. It's more of the same prejudiced, bigoted bull. More kneejerk criticisms of a writer's work on a book that many of them don't even read anyway. One sure-fire way to combat "everybody's" campaign to discredit Hudlin and the Panther publication is to support both through our continued purchases of the product. "Everybody" can't beat us. If "everybody" can't beat us, they still may not want to join us, but who really gives a damn anyway?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Action Jackson on January 09, 2007, 05:28:14 am
He wants validation while being simultaneously judgemental. :D This is gonna be fun.

What need do I have for validation?  I'm not the one spewing out racist garbage and going on hate-filled tirades. 

I'm being judgmental of Dora, the hate-spewing racist.  I apologize for being less than accepting of racism.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: sinjection on January 09, 2007, 05:30:46 am
Good Morning Action Jackson.
 Welcome to the HEF.
  So, what forum are you from?  And are you Pro or Anti-Panther?

Action has posted here before MM. He had questions for me concerning something I've since forgotten. But the posts are around here somewhere.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Action Jackson on January 09, 2007, 05:32:14 am
Action has posted here before MM. He had questions for me concerning something I've since forgotten. But the posts are around here somewhere.

I meant to reply to that, but got caught up in a film project and didn't have much internet time.  I only vaguely remember what it was about now.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: sinjection on January 09, 2007, 05:34:12 am
Action has posted here before MM. He had questions for me concerning something I've since forgotten. But the posts are around here somewhere.

I meant to reply to that, but got caught up in a film project and didn't have much internet time.  I only vaguely remember what it was about now.

Ah well. We'll call it even then  ;)
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Action Jackson on January 09, 2007, 05:36:14 am
I remember your reply had something to do with jazz history, which I only remember because it stood out (I've played jazz drums since I was six).
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: sinjection on January 09, 2007, 05:41:16 am
He always says it is not about race ans yet  always works race into every one of his post.


Not to mention that the Anybody who actually likes this current run of hudlin's (I.e.  majority  who frequents this board)  he usually infers racism on their part.  Go to comic boards and look how many threads he has contributed to,

Poster a says :  the  sky is blue in panel 3  on page 4 of black  panther 23

That guy:  IT was blue until Hudlin touched it even though i have not read the book in months.   


 :D Outstanding!!!!  :D

In my always humble opinion, your description of such an exchange is essentially accurate as an example of the "party line" the "everybodys" post when responding to any positive comment about Hudlin's Black Panther.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: bluezulu on January 09, 2007, 05:48:57 am
Well waking up to do my e-job before heading to my real one, I have to again ask exactly what all of these post about racial dating and living locations have to do with the black panther, this book or the writer. As it relates to the title of the thread pointing to racist behavior and comments from other boards about this writer, the book or the character is valid and on point. Lets try to get the discussion back focused on the original thread title and less on each other.

I hope someone archive the post from the three headed monster. He is going to want to step back from that statment, in the fututre I promise you. The hypocisy of the "hudlin haters" is remarkable as they bestow expectaions on reggie hudlin as a man that they are not even able to do in one thread.

the real honest FACTS.

Reggie Hudlin's contribution to mankind>>>>>>>>> the three headed monster's contribution
Reggie Hudlin's legacy>>>>>>>>>>>>> The three headed monster's legacy
Reggie Hudlin's bankaccount>>>>>>>>>>The three headed monster's bankaccount
Reggie Hudlin's creativity>>>>>>>>>>>>>The three headed monster" creativity (remember they want everything to be carbon copies of priest"
Reggie Hudlin's e reputation>>>>>>>>>>>>The three headed monster's e-rep
Reggie Hudlin's support (through the industry and fans)>>>>>>> The three headed monster's support (one of which ran for a public office and lost)

so with all of the losses that the three headed monster's have taken through the course of the two year mission they have been on, you would think they would give it up. But it's good to see they win at one thing.

The three headed monsters loss tally>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The HEFFA's losses for the year. :)
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: sinjection on January 09, 2007, 05:50:14 am
I remember your reply had something to do with jazz history, which I only remember because it stood out (I've played jazz drums since I was six).

I have found the posts. Fortunately, you have only 9 posts...so it was easy to review your posting history. You registered specifically for the purpose of taking me to task about something I said...or rather, something you may have thought I'd said.

The thread is...now I've forgotten the title just as I was about to type it! But it has something about "rants" in it.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: bluezulu on January 09, 2007, 05:51:39 am
locked untill after I talk to he admin.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on January 09, 2007, 07:11:24 am
You misunderstand.  I'm not saying that you appear to be a hypocrite.  I'm saying that, as things stand, you ARE a hypocrite.  Undeniably, certifiably, and objectively, you are a hypocrite. 
Because things are always as they appear until proven otherwise, right?  Your "logic" is nonsense.  You (and others) have perceived something you think might be racist in Dora Milaje's statement and asked, nay, demanded further explanation.  She has declined.  End of story.  You are obviously free to form whatever opinion you will but your opinion is not undeniable, certifiable, or objective.  Cease and desist hurling insults at individual members no matter how justified you think you are. 

If you wish to discuss the words and ideas that you think are racist, do so in civil terms and without ad hominem attacks.  This is the rule of the forum.  I am sorry to single you out for reprimand on this as you have not been the only offender.  This seemed like the best recent example.  Maybe you can think of it as taking one for the team.  If you want to discuss this further, please PM me.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Mastrmynd on January 09, 2007, 07:15:48 am
"taking one for the team."

hahaha...that's rich.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Action Jackson on January 09, 2007, 07:35:59 am
Because things are always as they appear until proven otherwise, right?

Essentially, yes.  Things are generally taken at face value unless shown otherwise.  When is this not the case?

That's why I ask questions and give people a chance to clarify.  If they feign offense and get self-righteous in their refusal to clarify, what reason do I have to assume that what I've seen at face value is in any way misleading?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: kitamu Re on January 09, 2007, 07:39:58 am
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That's why I ask questions and give people a chance to clarify.  If they feign offense and get self-righteous in their refusal to clarify, what reason do I have to assume that what I've seen at face value is in any way misleading?

do you read black panther 8)
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Vic Vega on January 09, 2007, 07:50:56 am
Because things are always as they appear until proven otherwise, right?

Essentially, yes.  Things are generally taken at face value unless shown otherwise.  When is this not the case?

That's why I ask questions and give people a chance to clarify.  If they feign offense and get self-righteous in their refusal to clarify, what reason do I have to assume that what I've seen at face value is in any way misleading?

And why in the blue hell do you warrant an explanation of a personal choice (that is none of our business by definition) anyway?  Because you say so?

Who are you to demand (that's what you are doing not asking) anything?

Get a grip, for God's sake. You're embarrassing yourself.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 09, 2007, 08:04:47 am
Because things are always as they appear until proven otherwise, right?

Essentially, yes.  Things are generally taken at face value unless shown otherwise.  When is this not the case?

That's why I ask questions and give people a chance to clarify.  If they feign offense and get self-righteous in their refusal to clarify, what reason do I have to assume that what I've seen at face value is in any way misleading?

And why in the blue hell do you warrant an explanation of a personal choice (that is none of our business by definition) anyway?  Because you say so?

Who are you to demand (that's what you are doing not asking) anything?

Get a grip, for God's sake. You're embarrassing yourself.

I don't blame him.

If I said something in the lines of "I would never degrade myself or my bloodline by dating a black girl" then wouldn't you want to know why?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: BlackRodimus on January 09, 2007, 08:09:15 am
Because things are always as they appear until proven otherwise, right?

Essentially, yes.  Things are generally taken at face value unless shown otherwise.  When is this not the case?

Really? Cause you appear to be a troll looking to prove whatever mobile goalposts you got set up in your head. By your logic...you are!

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That's why I ask questions and give people a chance to clarify.

You hear that folks? He's GIVING us the CHANCE to clarify! How generous of you. We should all be so grateful. His demands are really opportunities! I tell ya, this forum was in chaos until your arrival. We had no future, no CHANCES, until Carl Weathers here gave them us. Thank goodness for you. Thank goodness.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: BlackRodimus on January 09, 2007, 08:12:19 am
Because things are always as they appear until proven otherwise, right?

Essentially, yes.  Things are generally taken at face value unless shown otherwise.  When is this not the case?

That's why I ask questions and give people a chance to clarify.  If they feign offense and get self-righteous in their refusal to clarify, what reason do I have to assume that what I've seen at face value is in any way misleading?

And why in the blue hell do you warrant an explanation of a personal choice (that is none of our business by definition) anyway?  Because you say so?

Who are you to demand (that's what you are doing not asking) anything?

Get a grip, for God's sake. You're embarrassing yourself.

I don't blame him.

If I said something in the lines of "I would never degrade myself or my bloodline by dating a black girl" then wouldn't you want to know why?

Not really, no. What would matter is what I would do in that situation. Why doesn't it to him? That's rhetorical, by the way, since he really wants to "best" the "uppity negress" as opposed to wanting actual answers or accepting her initial answer.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 09, 2007, 08:13:37 am
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What would matter is what I would do in that situation

I don't get it, what do you mean?
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Vic Vega on January 09, 2007, 08:13:56 am
Because things are always as they appear until proven otherwise, right?

Essentially, yes.  Things are generally taken at face value unless shown otherwise.  When is this not the case?

Really? Cause you appear to be a troll looking to prove whatever mobile goalposts you got set up in your head. By your logic...you are!

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That's why I ask questions and give people a chance to clarify.

You hear that folks? He's GIVING us the CHANCE to clarify! How generous of you. We should all be so grateful. His demands are really opportunities! I tell ya, this forum was in chaos until your arrival. We had no future, no CHANCES, until Carl Weathers here gave them us. Thank goodness for you. Thank goodness.

AHAHAHAHA!!!
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: BlackRodimus on January 09, 2007, 08:14:15 am
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What would matter is what I would do in that situation

I don't get it, what do you mean?

In other words, worry about yourself, not the other person.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on January 09, 2007, 08:22:27 am
Because things are always as they appear until proven otherwise, right?

Essentially, yes.  Things are generally taken at face value unless shown otherwise.  When is this not the case?
Whenever one doesn't have the complete picture.  Which is pretty often. 

That's why I ask questions and give people a chance to clarify.  If they feign offense and get self-righteous in their refusal to clarify, what reason do I have to assume that what I've seen at face value is in any way misleading?
Nothing wrong with asking the question.  Assume is the key point in your statement.  Without additional information you assume that you must be right.  That is unsound.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Ammar on January 09, 2007, 08:24:56 am
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What would matter is what I would do in that situation

I don't get it, what do you mean?

In other words, worry about yourself, not the other person.

I can respect that, even though I don't fully believe in it
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on January 09, 2007, 08:25:34 am
If I said something in the lines of "I would never degrade myself or my bloodline by dating a black girl" then wouldn't you want to know why?
Of course, that's not what she said.  Nevertheless, once again, there's nothing wrong with "wanting to know why".  The question has been asked and declined.  Form whatever opinions you want and move on but there's nothing conclusive there and no reason to offer up further insults.
Title: Re: Wow. Can it get any worse than this?
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on January 09, 2007, 08:27:49 am
How about we refrain from seeking out disputes on other forums and bringing them here?  It's like stepping in dogsh*t and tracking it on the carpet at home.