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Title: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mastrmynd on April 28, 2017, 10:32:18 am
I'm trying not to get excited, but if Coates puts these 2 back together, all will be forgiven in my eyes.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: MindofShadow on April 28, 2017, 10:34:07 am
I hope not.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mastrmynd on April 28, 2017, 10:36:57 am
I hope not.

Why not?
Who should he be with?
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: APEXABYSS on April 28, 2017, 10:45:41 am
eventually it's gonna happen. RH was on to something...
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: MindofShadow on April 28, 2017, 10:49:38 am

Why not?

unless somethign changed, it will be just like last time where one writer champions the cause while the other writers bitch, moan, complain, and take pot shots at every single oppoturnity.

And this isn't an "old" issue. THis was a few months ago...

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rorXcMXqyZA/WBNl7iHxK4I/AAAAAAAAIwI/CF-ay_0wZwobzqAhXd2gg2hXoHt4gX6zQCLcB/s1600/cw6%2B5.JPG)


So what is the point? Make T'challa a one woman man while Storm... isn't.... in the other books?

I don't want to read about T'cuckold.

If Storm is still his "best friend" and they still fling every now and again, sure, why not. Storm was one of the few people who could open up to pre-marriage anyway.

BUT at the same time, T'challa should be just as available to every other heroine in his vicinity as well.

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Who should he be with?


Anyone available as long as its organic to the story.

A wakandan, carol, monica, psylocke, emma, crystal, rachel, gullotine, anyone that is interested in a billionaire king. i don't give a hoot.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mortal Man on April 28, 2017, 02:29:12 pm
I hope not.


Why not?
Who should he be with?


http://hudlinentertainment.com/smf/index.php?topic=14619.0 (http://hudlinentertainment.com/smf/index.php?topic=14619.0)

^All of them. 

Every.  Single.  One.

Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on April 28, 2017, 03:19:27 pm
I hope not.


Why not?
Who should he be with?


[url]http://hudlinentertainment.com/smf/index.php?topic=14619.0[/url] ([url]http://hudlinentertainment.com/smf/index.php?topic=14619.0[/url])

^All of them. 

Every.  Single.  One.



Mortal just dropped the mic on us...
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on April 28, 2017, 03:23:47 pm
I'm trying not to get excited, but if Coates puts these 2 back together, all will be forgiven in my eyes.

Almost my thoughts. I'll still be hatin over Rape Camps.

Why not?

unless somethign changed, it will be just like last time where one writer champions the cause while the other writers bitch, moan, complain, and take pot shots at every single oppoturnity.

And this isn't an "old" issue. THis was a few months ago...

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rorXcMXqyZA/WBNl7iHxK4I/AAAAAAAAIwI/CF-ay_0wZwobzqAhXd2gg2hXoHt4gX6zQCLcB/s1600/cw6%2B5.JPG)


So what is the point? Make T'challa a one woman man while Storm... isn't.... in the other books?

I don't want to read about T'cuckold.

If Storm is still his "best friend" and they still fling every now and again, sure, why not. Storm was one of the few people who could open up to pre-marriage anyway.

BUT at the same time, T'challa should be just as available to every other heroine in his vicinity as well.

Quote
Who should he be with?


Anyone available as long as its organic to the story.

A wakandan, carol, monica, psylocke, emma, crystal, rachel, gullotine, anyone that is interested in a billionaire king. i don't give a hoot.


^^^Both my fear and...my proof that Marvel is still racist. STOP. THAT. BULLMESS. Really. Ride the Black Panther wave. Bleep hatin ass writers. Who wrote Storm apologizing and saying TChalla betrayed Carol? Carol was trippin...and I LIKE her. But she WAS TRIPPIN. She's lucky TChalla didn't backslap her.

Plus? TChalla and Carol are kinda friends now. They're back together in The Ultimates, anyway. So. Stop it.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on April 28, 2017, 04:41:12 pm
I wouldn't say they are friends, There is a wedge there. It's more frenemy's as t the moment with then throwing jokes at each other but not being buddies.

But I would like Tchalla out flirting some more. He Tried the wife thing, marvel killed It so let him indulge the bachelor life a little, have him flirt around, I'm sure there are some who want to get down with the king
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Kasper Cole on April 29, 2017, 10:08:51 am
I wouldn't even mind if writers were showing the two of them as still being contentious if not for the fact that T'Challa is ALWAYS painted as the bad guy in the situation. EVERY SINGLE TIME T'Challa is painted as the one for all the off panel problems in their relationship.

Also one has to laugh at the absurdity of the entire civil War II event (where that panel originated), where Storm of all people was fighting on the side of a government organization profiling people and working with the Inhumans.

Seriously, when is someone going to write a comic where Storm is taken to task for her ineffectiveness and hypocrisy? It's part of why her being in Black Panther & The Crew and suddenly seeming "woke" as it relates to black people seems odd. Storm often comes across as a pseudo activist.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Booshman on April 29, 2017, 12:13:27 pm
I wouldn't even mind if writers were showing the two of them as still being contentious if not for the fact that T'Challa is ALWAYS painted as the bad guy in the situation. EVERY SINGLE TIME T'Challa is painted as the one for all the off panel problems in their relationship.

Also one has to laugh at the absurdity of the entire civil War II event (where that panel originated), where Storm of all people was fighting on the side of a government organization profiling people and working with the Inhumans.

Seriously, when is someone going to write a comic where Storm is taken to task for her ineffectiveness and hypocrisy? It's part of why her being in Black Panther & The Crew and suddenly seeming "woke" as it relates to black people seems odd. Storm often comes across as a pseudo activist.

Storm's never been that "woke" when it comes to black people, outside of some vague and generic "We need to help the Africans!" storyline. Especially when it comes to Black Americans. That's why so many (I'd say the vast majority of) X-fans love her (because she's "safe") and that's why she was given a wedding present about Black History during Hudlin's run; where she recited her "Newfound Black Knowledge" with a childish analogy, when she and BP went to visit Atlantis. Where she also mentioned the word "played", when it came to Namor's conversation with BP.

If Coates makes her culturally aware, in this book to black issues, and tries to imply that she's always been "woke", then he's a hack comic writer.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Salustrade on April 29, 2017, 12:31:10 pm
I wouldn't even mind if writers were showing the two of them as still being contentious if not for the fact that T'Challa is ALWAYS painted as the bad guy in the situation. EVERY SINGLE TIME T'Challa is painted as the one for all the off panel problems in their relationship.

Also one has to laugh at the absurdity of the entire civil War II event (where that panel originated), where Storm of all people was fighting on the side of a government organization profiling people and working with the Inhumans.

Seriously, when is someone going to write a comic where Storm is taken to task for her ineffectiveness and hypocrisy? It's part of why her being in Black Panther & The Crew and suddenly seeming "woke" as it relates to black people seems odd. Storm often comes across as a pseudo activist.

Storm's never been that "woke" when it comes to black people, outside of some vague and generic "We need to help the Africans!" storyline. Especially when it comes to Black Americans. That's why so many (I'd say the vast majority of) X-fans love her (because she's "safe") and that's why she was given a wedding present about Black History during Hudlin's run; where she recited her "Newfound Black Knowledge" with a childish analogy, when she and BP went to visit Atlantis. Where she also mentioned the word "played", when it came to Namor's conversation with BP.

If Coates makes her culturally aware, in this book to black issues, and tries to imply that she's always been "woke", then he's a hack comic writer.

Coates is a hack comic book writer regardless.

There's nothing "woke" about him whatsoever.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Booshman on April 29, 2017, 12:36:00 pm
I wouldn't even mind if writers were showing the two of them as still being contentious if not for the fact that T'Challa is ALWAYS painted as the bad guy in the situation. EVERY SINGLE TIME T'Challa is painted as the one for all the off panel problems in their relationship.

Also one has to laugh at the absurdity of the entire civil War II event (where that panel originated), where Storm of all people was fighting on the side of a government organization profiling people and working with the Inhumans.

Seriously, when is someone going to write a comic where Storm is taken to task for her ineffectiveness and hypocrisy? It's part of why her being in Black Panther & The Crew and suddenly seeming "woke" as it relates to black people seems odd. Storm often comes across as a pseudo activist.

Storm's never been that "woke" when it comes to black people, outside of some vague and generic "We need to help the Africans!" storyline. Especially when it comes to Black Americans. That's why so many (I'd say the vast majority of) X-fans love her (because she's "safe") and that's why she was given a wedding present about Black History during Hudlin's run; where she recited her "Newfound Black Knowledge" with a childish analogy, when she and BP went to visit Atlantis. Where she also mentioned the word "played", when it came to Namor's conversation with BP.

If Coates makes her culturally aware, in this book to black issues, and tries to imply that she's always been "woke", then he's a hack comic writer.

Coates is a hack comic book writer regardless.

There's nothing "woke" about him whatsoever.

He really needs to go back to The Atlantic and to paling around with Chris Hayes (who I like as an investigative journalist, but nothing beyond that) and the other white liberals on MSNBC.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: MindofShadow on April 29, 2017, 12:47:01 pm
Coates likes Storm so hes likely to "woke her up"...

With all the nuance of a sledgehammer

Hopefuly misty takes her to task about it in the book.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mastrmynd on April 29, 2017, 05:01:43 pm
Coates likes Storm so hes likely to "woke her up"...

With all the nuance of a sledgehammer

Hopefuly misty takes her to task about it in the book.

I agree.
And I agree with the white people friendly label that Storm has. It's true.
If it wasn't for her high melanin count, she'd probably be blond.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mortal Man on April 29, 2017, 05:15:45 pm
I wouldn't even mind if writers were showing the two of them as still being contentious if not for the fact that T'Challa is ALWAYS painted as the bad guy in the situation. EVERY SINGLE TIME T'Challa is painted as the one for all the off panel problems in their relationship.

Also one has to laugh at the absurdity of the entire civil War II event (where that panel originated), where Storm of all people was fighting on the side of a government organization profiling people and working with the Inhumans.

Seriously, when is someone going to write a comic where Storm is taken to task for her ineffectiveness and hypocrisy? It's part of why her being in Black Panther & The Crew and suddenly seeming "woke" as it relates to black people seems odd. Storm often comes across as a pseudo activist.

Storm's never been that "woke" when it comes to black people, outside of some vague and generic "We need to help the Africans!" storyline. Especially when it comes to Black Americans. That's why so many (I'd say the vast majority of) X-fans love her (because she's "safe") and that's why she was given a wedding present about Black History during Hudlin's run; where she recited her "Newfound Black Knowledge" with a childish analogy, when she and BP went to visit Atlantis. Where she also mentioned the word "played", when it came to Namor's conversation with BP.

If Coates makes her culturally aware, in this book to black issues, and tries to imply that she's always been "woke", then he's a hack comic writer.


So what you're saying is, everytime there's a crossroads in interpreting an event for BP (like the end of SW #9, or his desire to be king vs hero, or the Dora situation, or talking about he hasn't dated a "Wakandan woman") Coates will always choose the sh*ttiest condescending interpretation to represent (or straight up recton) T'Challa... but when it comes to Storm and her own shortcomings, he'll not only give her a pass but he'll also do her a solid too by rewriting the history so that it was never an issue?

Sounds about right.

Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: JRCarter on April 29, 2017, 05:40:36 pm
Let's keep it a hundred. Reggie and the Maestro (RIP) were the only ones who even cared to make T'Challa and Ororo work.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on April 29, 2017, 06:26:34 pm
Let's keep it a hundred. Reggie and the Maestro (RIP) were the only ones who even cared to make T'Challa and Ororo work.

I think Liss would of done a good job, had marvel not forced him into such a sh*tty premise and told him he couldn't use Storm so he was forced to give Tchalla a bullsh*t reason for why she couldn't be there
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: CvilleWakandan on April 29, 2017, 06:56:39 pm
That is why we nerd an originally created character. Zenzi has potential to be his catwomen, but well see.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Booshman on April 29, 2017, 08:47:33 pm
I wouldn't even mind if writers were showing the two of them as still being contentious if not for the fact that T'Challa is ALWAYS painted as the bad guy in the situation. EVERY SINGLE TIME T'Challa is painted as the one for all the off panel problems in their relationship.

Also one has to laugh at the absurdity of the entire civil War II event (where that panel originated), where Storm of all people was fighting on the side of a government organization profiling people and working with the Inhumans.

Seriously, when is someone going to write a comic where Storm is taken to task for her ineffectiveness and hypocrisy? It's part of why her being in Black Panther & The Crew and suddenly seeming "woke" as it relates to black people seems odd. Storm often comes across as a pseudo activist.

Storm's never been that "woke" when it comes to black people, outside of some vague and generic "We need to help the Africans!" storyline. Especially when it comes to Black Americans. That's why so many (I'd say the vast majority of) X-fans love her (because she's "safe") and that's why she was given a wedding present about Black History during Hudlin's run; where she recited her "Newfound Black Knowledge" with a childish analogy, when she and BP went to visit Atlantis. Where she also mentioned the word "played", when it came to Namor's conversation with BP.

If Coates makes her culturally aware, in this book to black issues, and tries to imply that she's always been "woke", then he's a hack comic writer.


So what you're saying is, everytime there's a crossroads in interpreting an event for BP (like the end of SW #9, or his desire to be king vs hero, or the Dora situation, or talking about he hasn't dated a "Wakandan woman") Coates will always choose the sh*ttiest condescending interpretation to represent (or straight up recton) T'Challa... but when it comes to Storm and her own shortcomings, he'll not only give her a pass but he'll also do her a solid too by rewriting the history so that it was never an issue?

Sounds about right.

He's just trying to be the best ("true") male feminist that he can be. Wish fulfillment/"doing a character justice" is only an issue when it comes to BP. Because of his lack of a vagina. And because the irrelevant and insignificant "Dora version of the Carol Corps" (who couldn't keep their foolish book afloat) will scream in disgust if BP doesn't have shade thrown at him via hamfisted false narratives.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on April 30, 2017, 05:05:13 am
Let's keep it a hundred. Reggie and the Maestro (RIP) were the only ones who even cared to make T'Challa and Ororo work.

I think Liss would of done a good job, had marvel not forced him into such a sh*tty premise and told him he couldn't use Storm so he was forced to give Tchalla a bullsh*t reason for why she couldn't be there

Seconded.

But. Real talk? I'll take this #13 issue. Even though it offends me. It offends me NOT because it sucked, but in fact because it was by far. Far. The best of the Coatesverse run [ which is not saying much on the one hand, but is saying quite a bit in the leap for Coates' writing in more appropriate characterization for TChalla most especially ] and should have been what we saw from #2 forward. We see zero T'Chumpa [ death to Rape Camps and emasculated ineffective T'Chumpa ]. We see Shuri bust out her new title, "Ancient Future"; which I like very much [ death to Rape Camps and emasculated, ineffective T'Chumpa ]. It gives her a clear and very large writ plus makes sure that writers can't slide her off as a TChalla failure, a Lindsay Lohan of Wakanda, or any other hackjob BS [ death to Rape Camps and allat from #2-#12 ].

However. To my surprise? The art fell off just as sharply as the writing improved. This was by far the worst of Stelfreeze or whoever drew BP. Maybe they didn't have enough time to recover from the vomitous mass of #2-#12 yet [ Vibranium Bomb Rape Camps and atomize T'Chumpa ]. This Coates writing is by far the best Storm characterization I've seen since Hudlin, Maestro [ RIP ] and Pak [ death to...you get it, already ].

But. I know better than to start getting my hopes up. Coates #1 didn't suck, either. Sooo...if the writing and art are sweet from #13 to #17? Then I will say...maybe. If Season 2 is as powerfully T'Challa as Season 1 was as powerfully T'Chumpa? That's a good way to bring us back to a net of zero. If Season 2 is TWICE THE T'CHALLA that Season 1 was as powerfully T'Chumpa?

Now. We gettin some'airs.

Til then? Death to Rape Camps, T'Chumpa, and allat noise.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on April 30, 2017, 06:52:48 am
"I've had my share of believers?" Got an eyebrow cocked to heavens on that one.

But like OP said, I'll take it. Ororo and T'Challa are just too perfect for one another. The divorce was bullsh*t. The Wolverine/Storm situationship was insulting to everybody involved. If these two get together and ack (not act, ACK) like grown folks, I'm all for it. It seems to me like this is a reboot/retcon, as if the marriage never happened? Or are they doing some cutty buddy stuff here? (My kingdom for some better art. Eaton would've MURKED this.)

Let's keep it real. The MARRIAGE ending was fine, but these two would've been all over each other whenever they could. This pairing (as it's happening) isn't the healthy, loving, marriage that was written by Hudlin and McDuffie, but I can dig it until further notice. As long as they are what they should always be...still black AND f*cking.

(http://i68.tinypic.com/210aamg.jpg)
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on April 30, 2017, 09:12:37 am
Let's keep it a hundred. Reggie and the Maestro (RIP) were the only ones who even cared to make T'Challa and Ororo work.

I think Liss would of done a good job, had marvel not forced him into such a sh*tty premise and told him he couldn't use Storm so he was forced to give Tchalla a bullsh*t reason for why she couldn't be there

Seconded.

But. Real talk? I'll take this #13 issue. Even though it offends me. It offends me NOT because it sucked, but in fact because it was by far. Far. The best of the Coatesverse run [ which is not saying much on the one hand, but is saying quite a bit in the leap for Coates' writing in more appropriate characterization for TChalla most especially ] and should have been what we saw from #2 forward. We see zero T'Chumpa [ death to Rape Camps and emasculated ineffective T'Chumpa ]. We see Shuri bust out her new title, "Ancient Future"; which I like very much [ death to Rape Camps and emasculated, ineffective T'Chumpa ]. It gives her a clear and very large writ plus makes sure that writers can't slide her off as a TChalla failure, a Lindsay Lohan of Wakanda, or any other hackjob BS [ death to Rape Camps and allat from #2-#12 ].

However. To my surprise? The art fell off just as sharply as the writing improved. This was by far the worst of Stelfreeze or whoever drew BP. Maybe they didn't have enough time to recover from the vomitous mass of #2-#12 yet [ Vibranium Bomb Rape Camps and atomize T'Chumpa ]. This Coates writing is by far the best Storm characterization I've seen since Hudlin, Maestro [ RIP ] and Pak [ death to...you get it, already ].

But. I know better than to start getting my hopes up. Coates #1 didn't suck, either. Sooo...if the writing and art are sweet from #13 to #17? Then I will say...maybe. If Season 2 is as powerfully T'Challa as Season 1 was as powerfully T'Chumpa? That's a good way to bring us back to a net of zero. If Season 2 is TWICE THE T'CHALLA that Season 1 was as powerfully T'Chumpa?

Now. We gettin some'airs.

Til then? Death to Rape Camps, T'Chumpa, and allat noise.

It's a new artist Wilfredo Torres. My issue is the art would go from good to sh*tty to good again from one panel to the next. Like as if some panels he had just a minute left to finish finish before turning it in, so it looks like he just had to throw it together, like the scene above, look at Tchallas eyes (I thought this was a more serious superhero comic not a manga, Which I have Zero issues with because mangas can illustrate action far better then what I have seen in hero comics to date) while stir is in great detail.

There is another scene when he recounts the snake men where he is taking to the elder and he looks like he has on red footie pants, yet the next panel shows great detail with him crouched in a tree.

They should so what they did in Issue 12. Give Stelfreeze the static art, and let Torres pen the action as he does a better job then Stelfreeze and Sprouse in that department..

Also, can someone please give Shuri a Royal Wakandan hairstyle change please? Don't need her sporting sane hair color as Ramonda and Storm, give the sister a honey brown please
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mortal Man on April 30, 2017, 12:36:36 pm
First Rocafort on Ultimates and now Stelfreeze on the solo.

Are these artists getting rushed?  Bc it seems like they aren't meeting the deadlines and then Marvel goes on craigslist to find the first guy on the cheap to fill in the gaps.

At least go to deviantart and pick one of those guys instead.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mortal Man on April 30, 2017, 12:46:15 pm
You know that guy who didn't have much experience in relationships prior to meeting "the one" (the girl of his dreams), but then him and her have a messy break up but he's still so sprung for her, talking about she's his best friend, can't look at another woman, etc etc... all the while she's back in her old neighborhood poppin and lockin it for the goons, knowing that once she's had her fun she can always crawl back to his open waiting arms?


Yea...  we all know that guy.  We make threads about him on the daily :/



 
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on April 30, 2017, 01:32:33 pm
First Rocafort on Ultimates and now Stelfreeze on the solo.

Are these artists getting rushed?  Bc it seems like they aren't meeting the deadlines and then Marvel goes on craigslist to find the first guy on the cheap to fill in the gaps.

At least go to deviantart and pick one of those guys instead.

Dude Rocafort was on point with his art, I liked what he offered and he had it all down pat, the static and action was on point, the detail was there and his Panther looked cool (so did his Wakandan guards). He would be my choice for an artist for the solo. We would likely get some tech showings too
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on April 30, 2017, 03:45:54 pm
You know that guy who didn't have much experience in relationships prior to meeting "the one" (the girl of his dreams), but then him and her have a messy break up but he's still so sprung for her, talking about she's his best friend, can't look at another woman, etc etc... all the while she's back in her old neighborhood poppin and lockin it for the goons, knowing that once she's had her fun she can always crawl back to his open waiting arms?


Yea...  we all know that guy.  We make threads about him on the daily :/


I don't know THAT em effeh AT ALL. In fact, I truly do not have a single person of either gender who is part of my life that I know is an adherent of the kind of the behavior described above.

Now. I DO KNOW a guy, though.

This guy? Was such a highly desired male that the Father of Shang-Chi groomed a woman to marry specifically him. This guy? Is literally the most sought after bachelor in the MU. This guy? Without even TRYING was having Susan Richards catchin feelinz for him. This guy? Is incredibly attractive to literally every dime piece in the MU. A must have sexual desire of every Villain, heroine, or in between in the MCU. This guy? Most certainly loved him some Ororo, but it was a healthy love. No T'Chumpa facets or aspects, at all. And Ororo? Loved this guy right back. Healthy beat for healthy beat.

That sucka that our good brutha Mortal Man...with expert, well understood and well received scathing sarcasm [ could practically see him rolling his eyes n givin heads the finger ] obliquely referred to in his posts above...has nothing to do with OUR guy. THAT guy? The one that Mortal Man referred to?

Is a racist construct by racist White writers who had a literal Tea Party fit after RH, and displayed their pre-Trumpian colors by hating on TChalla at every chance they get.

And those Marvel Trumpers? Are going to throw up in their vomit when BLACK PANTHER the movie comes out, completely smashes, and now the social norm is: BLACK PANTHER IS TOO COOL FOR FOOLS. Those writers? Will either be muzzled outright or...horror of horrors...be forced to write glowing stories extolling the greatness of TChalla outright, in ways that he should rightfully be celebrated, and embraced.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: marvell2100 on April 30, 2017, 06:08:44 pm
We all know that T'Challa and Ororo can work. The problem is can it work outside of a BP book? The past has shown us that other than McDuffie, writers who aren't writing BP can't do isht right when it comes to them as a married couple.

Now that the "we want Storm back in the X-Verse" ship has sunk to the bottom of the ocean, she's suddenly an option again for BP. But does Marvel have the guts to do right by them this time? The success of BP and the buzz he's getting seems to indicate that Marvel wants to capitalize on that now and have other characters get on those coattails. Kinda funny since so many Unfans accused him of having to be propped up by other characters. They sure want to jump on the train now.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on April 30, 2017, 06:31:55 pm
We all know that T'Challa and Ororo can work. The problem is can it work outside of a BP book? The past has shown us that other than McDuffie, writers who aren't writing BP can't do isht right when it comes to them as a married couple.

Now that the "we want Storm back in the X-Verse" ship has sunk to the bottom of the ocean, she's suddenly an option again for BP. But does Marvel have the guts to do right by them this time? The success of BP and the buzz he's getting seems to indicate that Marvel wants to capitalize on that now and have other characters get on those coattails. Kinda funny since so many Unfans accused him of having to be propped up by other characters. They sure want to jump on the train now.

2005 unfan " BP sucks can't succeed unless he is leeching off of Storms popularity to get anywhere Lol trollface"

2017 unfan "I have been a T'Challa x Storm fan since they got married, and have Always been rooting for them"
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: CvilleWakandan on April 30, 2017, 07:08:46 pm
BP #13 reaction to BP and Storm on Facebook. lol

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/iCS486ZAbQvfi/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on April 30, 2017, 08:31:41 pm

2005 unfan " BP sucks can't succeed unless he is leeching off of Storms popularity to get anywhere Lol trollface"

2017 unfan "I have been a T'Challa x Storm fan since they got married, and have Always been rooting for them"


Exactly.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on April 30, 2017, 08:54:09 pm
The ultimate symbol of mutant/human unity is the marriage of Black Panther and Storm.  If you embrace that idea, the stories, BIG stories, write themselves.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on April 30, 2017, 10:52:38 pm
The ultimate symbol of mutant/human unity is the marriage of Black Panther and Storm.  If you embrace that idea, the stories, BIG stories, write themselves.

And yet, it was squashed by pettiness and racism, and marvel let it happen. But now that the hype is real,
and Storm has been left in the dust in the comics and movie Storm is still glorified wallpaper, maybe heads Will think twice before taking potshots.. then again, maybe Not
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Booshman on May 01, 2017, 02:47:29 am
2005 unfan " BP sucks can't succeed unless he is leeching off of Storms popularity to get anywhere Lol trollface"

2017 unfan "I have been a T'Challa x Storm fan since they got married, and have Always been rooting for them"


Pretty much, ya.

And yet, it was squashed by pettiness and racism, and marvel let it happen. But now that the hype is real, and Storm has been left in the dust in the comics and movie Storm is still glorified wallpaper, maybe heads Will think twice before taking potshots.. then again, maybe Not

Marvel keeps doing poorly executed and gimmicky events, inbetween the overdone "Hero vs. Hero" theme. They're clearly slow learners.

And ever since the annulment, Storm's been reduced to bouncing between being written as a hilariously pisspoor character a la Bendis/Greg Pak, sexual punchline while sleeping with Logan, and a glorified wallpaper.

The ultimate symbol of mutant/human unity is the marriage of Black Panther and Storm.  If you embrace that idea, the stories, BIG stories, write themselves.

I still find it funny that you got a ton of hate from X-fans/Unfans/Storm fans, but did more positive development for Storm's development/backstory in a few issues, than what was done for her in almost all of her 40+ years in the X-books combined.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: MindofShadow on May 01, 2017, 06:46:50 am
We all know that T'Challa and Ororo can work. The problem is can it work outside of a BP book? The past has shown us that other than McDuffie, writers who aren't writing BP can't do isht right when it comes to them as a married couple.

Now that the "we want Storm back in the X-Verse" ship has sunk to the bottom of the ocean, she's suddenly an option again for BP. But does Marvel have the guts to do right by them this time? The success of BP and the buzz he's getting seems to indicate that Marvel wants to capitalize on that now and have other characters get on those coattails. Kinda funny since so many Unfans accused him of having to be propped up by other characters. They sure want to jump on the train now.

2005 unfan " BP sucks can't succeed unless he is leeching off of Storms popularity to get anywhere Lol trollface"

2017 unfan "I have been a T'Challa x Storm fan since they got married, and have Always been rooting for them"


No offense to people in advance.

But Storm fans live purely in the past at this point.

Her popularity exists thanks to a cartoon in the 90's. ANd she has been treated like background table scraps sense.

Comics don't care about her really. Movies keep putting her in the background in both universes.

They only reason she is "popular" still is because Marvel has made absolutely zero effort to develop another female WOC character. both in the comic side and movie side.

If the MCU had bigger balls, Black Widow would have had a movie years ago (scarlet is the second highest paid person they have!!!), Wasp would help hold down the white female hero too, and Captain Marvel would be about Monica, not Carol. At least Monica has a powerbase outside of "brick with energy powers." Could have even stolen some of Carols mythos and integrated them in.


If only Storm/X fans had half the foresight Mr. Hudlin had... she could be riding with the King during his popularity surge.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mortal Man on May 01, 2017, 06:47:15 am
You know that guy who didn't have much experience in relationships prior to meeting "the one" (the girl of his dreams), but then him and her have a messy break up but he's still so sprung for her, talking about she's his best friend, can't look at another woman, etc etc... all the while she's back in her old neighborhood poppin and lockin it for the goons, knowing that once she's had her fun she can always crawl back to his open waiting arms?


Yea...  we all know that guy.  We make threads about him on the daily :/


I don't know THAT em effeh AT ALL. In fact, I truly do not have a single person of either gender who is part of my life that I know is an adherent of the kind of the behavior described above.

Now. I DO KNOW a guy, though.

This guy? Was such a highly desired male that the Father of Shang-Chi groomed a woman to marry specifically him. This guy? Is literally the most sought after bachelor in the MU. This guy? Without even TRYING was having Susan Richards catchin feelinz for him. This guy? Is incredibly attractive to literally every dime piece in the MU. A must have sexual desire of every Villain, heroine, or in between in the MCU. This guy? Most certainly loved him some Ororo, but it was a healthy love. No T'Chumpa facets or aspects, at all. And Ororo? Loved this guy right back. Healthy beat for healthy beat.

That sucka that our good brutha Mortal Man...with expert, well understood and well received scathing sarcasm [ could practically see him rolling his eyes n givin heads the finger ] obliquely referred to in his posts above...has nothing to do with OUR guy. THAT guy? The one that Mortal Man referred to?

Is a racist construct by racist White writers who had a literal Tea Party fit after RH, and displayed their pre-Trumpian colors by hating on TChalla at every chance they get.

And those Marvel Trumpers? Are going to throw up in their vomit when BLACK PANTHER the movie comes out, completely smashes, and now the social norm is: BLACK PANTHER IS TOO COOL FOR FOOLS. Those writers? Will either be muzzled outright or...horror of horrors...be forced to write glowing stories extolling the greatness of TChalla outright, in ways that he should rightfully be celebrated, and embraced.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/WnPlDD9ld8f4s/giphy.gif)

The exact response i was fishing for, perfectly executed lol. Much respect.

I despise the toxicity of what their relationship is now, compared to what it was last decade when T'Challa was allowed to still have his balls.  Back when they were both equally sought after and chose each other, as opposed to this one sided swinger fest while BP is on the couch in necropolis with a bucket of ice cream listening to love songs.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: MindofShadow on May 01, 2017, 06:50:54 am
You know that guy who didn't have much experience in relationships prior to meeting "the one" (the girl of his dreams), but then him and her have a messy break up but he's still so sprung for her, talking about she's his best friend, can't look at another woman, etc etc... all the while she's back in her old neighborhood poppin and lockin it for the goons, knowing that once she's had her fun she can always crawl back to his open waiting arms?


Yea...  we all know that guy.  We make threads about him on the daily :/


I don't know THAT em effeh AT ALL. In fact, I truly do not have a single person of either gender who is part of my life that I know is an adherent of the kind of the behavior described above.

Now. I DO KNOW a guy, though.

This guy? Was such a highly desired male that the Father of Shang-Chi groomed a woman to marry specifically him. This guy? Is literally the most sought after bachelor in the MU. This guy? Without even TRYING was having Susan Richards catchin feelinz for him. This guy? Is incredibly attractive to literally every dime piece in the MU. A must have sexual desire of every Villain, heroine, or in between in the MCU. This guy? Most certainly loved him some Ororo, but it was a healthy love. No T'Chumpa facets or aspects, at all. And Ororo? Loved this guy right back. Healthy beat for healthy beat.

That sucka that our good brutha Mortal Man...with expert, well understood and well received scathing sarcasm [ could practically see him rolling his eyes n givin heads the finger ] obliquely referred to in his posts above...has nothing to do with OUR guy. THAT guy? The one that Mortal Man referred to?

Is a racist construct by racist White writers who had a literal Tea Party fit after RH, and displayed their pre-Trumpian colors by hating on TChalla at every chance they get.

And those Marvel Trumpers? Are going to throw up in their vomit when BLACK PANTHER the movie comes out, completely smashes, and now the social norm is: BLACK PANTHER IS TOO COOL FOR FOOLS. Those writers? Will either be muzzled outright or...horror of horrors...be forced to write glowing stories extolling the greatness of TChalla outright, in ways that he should rightfully be celebrated, and embraced.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/WnPlDD9ld8f4s/giphy.gif)

The exact response i was fishing for, perfectly executed lol. Much respect.

I despise the toxicity of what their relationship is now, compared to what it was last decade when T'Challa was allowed to still have his balls.  Back when they were both equally sought after and chose each other, as opposed to this one sided swinger fest while BP is on the couch in necropolis with a bucket of ice cream listening to love songs.


(https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/stormblackpanthermarriage11.jpg)


makes you want to f*cking puke.

Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Booshman on May 01, 2017, 07:00:33 am
Lol....

Wolverine didn't even think of her in his final moments. Jean Grey and Mariko, totally! Storm? Not even an afterthought, despite sleeping with her for a year.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mortal Man on May 01, 2017, 07:28:19 am
We all know that T'Challa and Ororo can work. The problem is can it work outside of a BP book? The past has shown us that other than McDuffie, writers who aren't writing BP can't do isht right when it comes to them as a married couple.

Now that the "we want Storm back in the X-Verse" ship has sunk to the bottom of the ocean, she's suddenly an option again for BP. But does Marvel have the guts to do right by them this time? The success of BP and the buzz he's getting seems to indicate that Marvel wants to capitalize on that now and have other characters get on those coattails. Kinda funny since so many Unfans accused him of having to be propped up by other characters. They sure want to jump on the train now.

2005 unfan " BP sucks can't succeed unless he is leeching off of Storms popularity to get anywhere Lol trollface"

2017 unfan "I have been a T'Challa x Storm fan since they got married, and have Always been rooting for them"


No offense to people in advance.

But Storm fans live purely in the past at this point.

Her popularity exists thanks to a cartoon in the 90's. ANd she has been treated like background table scraps sense.

Comics don't care about her really. Movies keep putting her in the background in both universes.

They only reason she is "popular" still is because Marvel has made absolutely zero effort to develop another female WOC character. both in the comic side and movie side.


If the MCU had bigger balls, Black Widow would have had a movie years ago (scarlet is the second highest paid person they have!!!), Wasp would help hold down the white female hero too, and Captain Marvel would be about Monica, not Carol. At least Monica has a powerbase outside of "brick with energy powers." Could have even stolen some of Carols mythos and integrated them in.


If only Storm/X fans had half the foresight Mr. Hudlin had... she could be riding with the King during his popularity surge.
You see it lol.

I (and a couple others) put it out there a year or so back on the CBR forum: Monica Rambeau is a "MCU love interest paring with T'Challa" away from essentially shutting the coffin on Storm and her fans.  Which isn't to say I don't like Storm (I like the concept of her, and the concept of her and T'Challa) but no black girl nor black community is going to shed a tear if you swap out one rolls royce with another... especially one that has less mileage, baggage and (movie) restrictions to it. 

*insert disclaimer about not wanting to objectify fictional women by comparing them to luxury vehicles*
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on May 01, 2017, 07:39:43 am
We all know that T'Challa and Ororo can work. The problem is can it work outside of a BP book? The past has shown us that other than McDuffie, writers who aren't writing BP can't do isht right when it comes to them as a married couple.

Now that the "we want Storm back in the X-Verse" ship has sunk to the bottom of the ocean, she's suddenly an option again for BP. But does Marvel have the guts to do right by them this time? The success of BP and the buzz he's getting seems to indicate that Marvel wants to capitalize on that now and have other characters get on those coattails. Kinda funny since so many Unfans accused him of having to be propped up by other characters. They sure want to jump on the train now.

2005 unfan " BP sucks can't succeed unless he is leeching off of Storms popularity to get anywhere Lol trollface"

2017 unfan "I have been a T'Challa x Storm fan since they got married, and have Always been rooting for them"


No offense to people in advance.

But Storm fans live purely in the past at this point.

Her popularity exists thanks to a cartoon in the 90's. ANd she has been treated like background table scraps sense.

Comics don't care about her really. Movies keep putting her in the background in both universes.

They only reason she is "popular" still is because Marvel has made absolutely zero effort to develop another female WOC character. both in the comic side and movie side.

If the MCU had bigger balls, Black Widow would have had a movie years ago (scarlet is the second highest paid person they have!!!), Wasp would help hold down the white female hero too, and Captain Marvel would be about Monica, not Carol. At least Monica has a powerbase outside of "brick with energy powers." Could have even stolen some of Carols mythos and integrated them in.


If only Storm/X fans had half the foresight Mr. Hudlin had... she could be riding with the King during his popularity surge.

Serious question, has there really been any good times for her in her publication history? Seriously It seems like in order to find anything good for her, your digging back a decade or two.. Are they satisfied with her being glorifed wallpaper? She is the best WoC because her competition has less of a mythos fleshed out then her, so she wins just by showing up? Is that what her fans want? Atleast with Hudlin and Mcduffie, They had her doing sh*t. I saw fans complainign that she wasn't doing too much in BP at times but then i would think to myself, Isnt she still doing more then she was in Xmen? and she had her moments, quite a few good ones in Hudlins run and Mcduffie came correct too. So I just dong understand the need for them to want her to go back to Wallpaper and getting the scrapes of everyone else in the x office
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mortal Man on May 01, 2017, 07:41:11 am

makes you want to f*cking puke.

Absolutely disgusting.

Lol....

Wolverine didn't even think of her in his final moments. Jean Grey and Mariko, totally! Storm? Not even an afterthought, despite sleeping with her for a year.

Acronym:

THOT

Definition: 

That Ho Over There

Application:

Wolverine is Jean Grey's thot whenever she's mad at Cyclops.

Storm is Wolverine's thot whenever Jean Grey is too busy being dead, underage or in an alternate reality.

Storm is also Wolverine's thot whenever it's time to be petty to the BP mythos


thots are just a hobby on the side when bae is unavailable; disgusting that they turned Storm into that.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: MindofShadow on May 01, 2017, 07:47:18 am
blah blah she beat up cyclops or something blah blah

blah blah calisto blah blah


For a Storm comic, I thought Worlds Apart might have been her best showing ive read. actually used the BP mythos and the X-men mythos and her mythos to enhance the story and it worked.


Storm had a chance to transcend being a "mutant" and get out of the x-men team shadow. Those that do that are more popular. Wolverine naturally does it and so does his daughter/clone thing. Daken got solo issues because he could. Cable can because they threw away the mutant sh*t and turned him in a bad ass terminator dude. Gambit actually has a lot of solo issues (for an xman) because he has his own thing (Guilds and such) that is NOT dependent on being a mutant.

Storm had her chance thanks to Hudlin. She was now a queen. She had a whole set of mythos to play with that had nothing to do with mutants. she was an F4 member. She then actually became an Avengers.

then "lol nooooooope" dragged her back to the GD school and stripped it all away to be no more than Colossus, Iceman, Rachel, Nightcrawler, and every other "mostly background powers X-men"
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Vic Vega on May 01, 2017, 08:32:28 am
X-Character.s ability to work solo is really dependent on the core character's starting premise.

Wolverine-wandering fighting man

Cable-revolutionary/commando

Gambit-Thief

Dazzler-reluctant-hero/singer (this was way before she was an Xman)

I never got what Storm's solo hook was supposed to be. The only thing that you can get from the
character's backstory is Storm as a globe trotting Modesty Blasť clone.

Except Storm is way overpowered for the spy/adventuress genre and Black Widow does that whole bit better anyway.

Storm with a Solo book made no more sense to me than the upcoming Teen Jean Grey solo book does (and I expect that to die in a year also).
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: MindofShadow on May 01, 2017, 08:57:09 am
And there is nothing wrong with being a "team only" type of character honestly.

Its just they haven't done much with her in that setting either.

I can't remember anything she did as headmistress in the WatXM series besides bone, lecture, and morally boost wolvy

Her recent time of leader fo the EXM team was one of the worst xmen runs ive run and she was a failure (as stated by her)

the Uncanny X-Force team was.... whoo boy. i didn't make ti far so maybe she did something there? (i love me some xforce too but yeesh)

she just kinda floats around, throws some weather at people, and floats around again
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on May 01, 2017, 09:11:37 am

makes you want to f*cking puke.

Absolutely disgusting.

Lol....

Wolverine didn't even think of her in his final moments. Jean Grey and Mariko, totally! Storm? Not even an afterthought, despite sleeping with her for a year.

Acronym:

THOT

Definition: 

That Ho Over There

Application:

Wolverine is Jean Grey's thot whenever she's mad at Cyclops.

Storm is Wolverine's thot whenever Jean Grey is too busy being dead, underage or in an alternate reality.

Storm is also Wolverine's thot whenever it's time to be petty to the BP mythos


thots are just a hobby on the side when bae is unavailable; disgusting that they turned Storm into that.

Yet Storm fans ate it up and look at where Storm ended up afterwards. Same boats. Huge opportunity wasted Because x office wanted wolvy to bust a nut
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Vic Vega on May 01, 2017, 09:28:11 am
And there is nothing wrong with being a "team only" type of character honestly.

Its just they haven't done much with her in that setting either.

I can't remember anything she did as headmistress in the WatXM series besides bone, lecture, and morally boost wolvy

Her recent time of leader fo the EXM team was one of the worst xmen runs ive run and she was a failure (as stated by her)

the Uncanny X-Force team was.... whoo boy. i didn't make ti far so maybe she did something there? (i love me some xforce too but yeesh)

she just kinda floats around, throws some weather at people, and floats around again

Part of that is because Storm's the "level headed" one.

When you have X-teams being led by Magneto, Cable and Cyclops trying to be Fidel Castro you aren't going to stand out compared to the extremist nutjobs.

You could have given Storm something to do by digging into how the X-School actually works (aside from when in doubt...get Beast to do it for you) but they wanted to use Logan to tell that story.

We got to see Logan somehow learn how to be headmaster but it was just assumed that Storm knew what she was doing.

Just being competent makes you boring.

Look what happened to Banshee (RIP).
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: MindofShadow on May 01, 2017, 09:35:46 am
And there is nothing wrong with being a "team only" type of character honestly.

Its just they haven't done much with her in that setting either.

I can't remember anything she did as headmistress in the WatXM series besides bone, lecture, and morally boost wolvy

Her recent time of leader fo the EXM team was one of the worst xmen runs ive run and she was a failure (as stated by her)

the Uncanny X-Force team was.... whoo boy. i didn't make ti far so maybe she did something there? (i love me some xforce too but yeesh)

she just kinda floats around, throws some weather at people, and floats around again


Part of that is because Storm's the "level headed" one.

When you have X-teams being led by Magneto, Cable and Cyclops trying to be Fidel Castro you aren't going to stand out compared to the extremist nutjobs.

You could have given Storm something to do by digging into how the X-School actually works (aside from when in doubt...get Beast to do it for you) but they wanted to use Logan to tell that story.

We got to see Logan somehow learn how to be headmaster but it was just assumed that Storm knew what she was doing.

Just being competent makes you boring.

Look what happened to Banshee (RIP).



Banshee is somewhere! (somewhere)

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/d/da/Sean_Cassidy_%28Earth-616%29_from_Uncanny_Avengers_Vol_1_12.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130904181119)
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on May 01, 2017, 10:13:45 am
And there is nothing wrong with being a "team only" type of character honestly.

Its just they haven't done much with her in that setting either.

I can't remember anything she did as headmistress in the WatXM series besides bone, lecture, and morally boost wolvy

Her recent time of leader fo the EXM team was one of the worst xmen runs ive run and she was a failure (as stated by her)

the Uncanny X-Force team was.... whoo boy. i didn't make ti far so maybe she did something there? (i love me some xforce too but yeesh)

she just kinda floats around, throws some weather at people, and floats around again

Part of that is because Storm's the "level headed" one.

When you have X-teams being led by Magneto, Cable and Cyclops trying to be Fidel Castro you aren't going to stand out compared to the extremist nutjobs.

You could have given Storm something to do by digging into how the X-School actually works (aside from when in doubt...get Beast to do it for you) but they wanted to use Logan to tell that story.

We got to see Logan somehow learn how to be headmaster but it was just assumed that Storm knew what she was doing.

Just being competent makes you boring.

Look what happened to Banshee (RIP).

Thats just unimaginative and lazy thinking. Like MoS said She had the chance to branch out and be apart of Teams that would allow her to Cut loose. With T'Challa, She had opportunities to grow out of the X office and into her own character. But short sighted thnking ruined it and now she is back to same ole same ole.

And I agree Worlds apart was actually really good and showed what she could of done in mixing the two franchises to tell stories. along with being able to do other things
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: 4sake on May 01, 2017, 12:25:45 pm

makes you want to f*cking puke.

Absolutely disgusting.

Lol....

Wolverine didn't even think of her in his final moments. Jean Grey and Mariko, totally! Storm? Not even an afterthought, despite sleeping with her for a year.

Acronym:

THOT

Definition: 

That Ho Over There

Application:

Wolverine is Jean Grey's thot whenever she's mad at Cyclops.

Storm is Wolverine's thot whenever Jean Grey is too busy being dead, underage or in an alternate reality.

Storm is also Wolverine's thot whenever it's time to be petty to the BP mythos


thots are just a hobby on the side when bae is unavailable; disgusting that they turned Storm into that.

Real as it gets..
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: 4sake on May 01, 2017, 12:35:08 pm
We all know that T'Challa and Ororo can work. The problem is can it work outside of a BP book? The past has shown us that other than McDuffie, writers who aren't writing BP can't do isht right when it comes to them as a married couple.

Now that the "we want Storm back in the X-Verse" ship has sunk to the bottom of the ocean, she's suddenly an option again for BP. But does Marvel have the guts to do right by them this time? The success of BP and the buzz he's getting seems to indicate that Marvel wants to capitalize on that now and have other characters get on those coattails. Kinda funny since so many Unfans accused him of having to be propped up by other characters. They sure want to jump on the train now.

2005 unfan " BP sucks can't succeed unless he is leeching off of Storms popularity to get anywhere Lol trollface"

2017 unfan "I have been a T'Challa x Storm fan since they got married, and have Always been rooting for them"


No offense to people in advance.

But Storm fans live purely in the past at this point.

Her popularity exists thanks to a cartoon in the 90's. ANd she has been treated like background table scraps sense.

Comics don't care about her really. Movies keep putting her in the background in both universes.

They only reason she is "popular" still is because Marvel has made absolutely zero effort to develop another female WOC character. both in the comic side and movie side.

If the MCU had bigger balls, Black Widow would have had a movie years ago (scarlet is the second highest paid person they have!!!), Wasp would help hold down the white female hero too, and Captain Marvel would be about Monica, not Carol. At least Monica has a powerbase outside of "brick with energy powers." Could have even stolen some of Carols mythos and integrated them in.


If only Storm/X fans had half the foresight Mr. Hudlin had... she could be riding with the King during his popularity surge.

To much truth.. Maybe if the CM movie bombs they'll see the light..
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: 4sake on May 01, 2017, 12:44:47 pm
I wouldn't even mind if writers were showing the two of them as still being contentious if not for the fact that T'Challa is ALWAYS painted as the bad guy in the situation. EVERY SINGLE TIME T'Challa is painted as the one for all the off panel problems in their relationship.

Also one has to laugh at the absurdity of the entire civil War II event (where that panel originated), where Storm of all people was fighting on the side of a government organization profiling people and working with the Inhumans.

Seriously, when is someone going to write a comic where Storm is taken to task for her ineffectiveness and hypocrisy? It's part of why her being in Black Panther & The Crew and suddenly seeming "woke" as it relates to black people seems odd. Storm often comes across as a pseudo activist.

Storm's never been that "woke" when it comes to black people, outside of some vague and generic "We need to help the Africans!" storyline. Especially when it comes to Black Americans. That's why so many (I'd say the vast majority of) X-fans love her (because she's "safe") and that's why she was given a wedding present about Black History during Hudlin's run; where she recited her "Newfound Black Knowledge" with a childish analogy, when she and BP went to visit Atlantis. Where she also mentioned the word "played", when it came to Namor's conversation with BP.

If Coates makes her culturally aware, in this book to black issues, and tries to imply that she's always been "woke", then he's a hack comic writer.


So what you're saying is, everytime there's a crossroads in interpreting an event for BP (like the end of SW #9, or his desire to be king vs hero, or the Dora situation, or talking about he hasn't dated a "Wakandan woman") Coates will always choose the sh*ttiest condescending interpretation to represent (or straight up recton) T'Challa... but when it comes to Storm and her own shortcomings, he'll not only give her a pass but he'll also do her a solid too by rewriting the history so that it was never an issue?

Sounds about right.

He's just trying to be the best ("true") male feminist that he can be. Wish fulfillment/"doing a character justice" is only an issue when it comes to BP. Because of his lack of a vagina. And because the irrelevant and insignificant "Dora version of the Carol Corps" (who couldn't keep their foolish book afloat) will scream in disgust if BP doesn't have shade thrown at him via hamfisted false narratives.

Knowledge
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Kasper Cole on May 01, 2017, 01:39:14 pm

makes you want to f*cking puke.

Absolutely disgusting.

Lol....

Wolverine didn't even think of her in his final moments. Jean Grey and Mariko, totally! Storm? Not even an afterthought, despite sleeping with her for a year.

Acronym:

THOT

Definition: 

That Ho Over There

Application:

Wolverine is Jean Grey's thot whenever she's mad at Cyclops.

Storm is Wolverine's thot whenever Jean Grey is too busy being dead, underage or in an alternate reality.

Storm is also Wolverine's thot whenever it's time to be petty to the BP mythos


thots are just a hobby on the side when bae is unavailable; disgusting that they turned Storm into that.

Yet Storm fans ate it up and look at where Storm ended up afterwards. Same boats. Huge opportunity wasted Because x office wanted wolvy to bust a nut

I question how many Storm fans there actually are.....Where were all these Storm fans when her book flopped?

I have a love hate relationship with Storm as a character. I see the potential there and we got glimpses of if with Mr Hudlin's run on Black Panther, The Maestro's work on Fantastic Four, and even Yost's work in Worlds Apart. The X-men franchise has squandered all of Storms potential to the point where it's hard to take the character seriously. She's out there doing the fake woke things right now (right after supporting profiling), her powers have regressed significantly, she's shown as being unsure of herself, her hairstyle changes every other month to the point where growing hair is a new mutant power, and she's basically just used as a diversity token. I'd rather read stories about Misty Knight, Monica Rambeau, and Moon Girl than anything involving Storm at this point.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mortal Man on May 01, 2017, 02:23:45 pm
I question how many Storm fans there actually are.....Where were all these Storm fans when her book flopped?

I have a love hate relationship with Storm as a character. I see the potential there and we got glimpses of if with Mr Hudlin's run on Black Panther, The Maestro's work on Fantastic Four, and even Yost's work in Worlds Apart. The X-men franchise has squandered all of Storms potential to the point where it's hard to take the character seriously. She's out there doing the fake woke things right now (right after supporting profiling), her powers have regressed significantly, she's shown as being unsure of herself, her hairstyle changes every other month to the point where growing hair is a new mutant power, and she's basically just used as a diversity token. I'd rather read stories about Misty Knight, Monica Rambeau, and Moon Girl than anything involving Storm at this point.

What happens if/when Lupita becomes the love interest for T'Chadwick and mainstream audiences detach themselves from the last lingering bit of interest they have in Ororo?

What happens when all she has left is being a diversity token and bp fans actually have options other than to entertain her existence?  :o

Scary thought... for Storm fans...

I've been waiting for that to happen since 2014...

Granted, my stance has always been:  "I like Storm, but she's not the only black woman in the world." 
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mortal Man on May 01, 2017, 02:35:59 pm
If T'Challa had hooked up with Spectrum 2 years ago and those two had been subject to competent writing ever since... would we even be talking about Storm to the extent we do these days?   

Maybe the occasional pity party pouring out some liquor thread to her and what she had...

But I think we'd be too busy drafting up hypotheticals for the amalgam version of Monica Lynn + Monica Rambeau in the MCU BP sequel

I personally would be too busy making a "Monica/T'Challa Eternal Love" Appreciation thread, talkin a whole lotta covert smack about how nice it is to see black love restriction-free.  And how great it is to have the most popular black male and most popular black female character in Marvel together.

But again, I like Storm.. but i'm more in love with the concept of a black power couple than I am in love with it having to be her specifically.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on May 01, 2017, 03:04:07 pm

makes you want to f*cking puke.

Absolutely disgusting.

Lol....

Wolverine didn't even think of her in his final moments. Jean Grey and Mariko, totally! Storm? Not even an afterthought, despite sleeping with her for a year.

Acronym:

THOT

Definition: 

That Ho Over There

Application:

Wolverine is Jean Grey's thot whenever she's mad at Cyclops.

Storm is Wolverine's thot whenever Jean Grey is too busy being dead, underage or in an alternate reality.

Storm is also Wolverine's thot whenever it's time to be petty to the BP mythos


thots are just a hobby on the side when bae is unavailable; disgusting that they turned Storm into that.

Yet Storm fans ate it up and look at where Storm ended up afterwards. Same boats. Huge opportunity wasted Because x office wanted wolvy to bust a nut

I question how many Storm fans there actually are.....Where were all these Storm fans when her book flopped?

I have a love hate relationship with Storm as a character. I see the potential there and we got glimpses of if with Mr Hudlin's run on Black Panther, The Maestro's work on Fantastic Four, and even Yost's work in Worlds Apart. The X-men franchise has squandered all of Storms potential to the point where it's hard to take the character seriously. She's out there doing the fake woke things right now (right after supporting profiling), her powers have regressed significantly, she's shown as being unsure of herself, her hairstyle changes every other month to the point where growing hair is a new mutant power, and she's basically just used as a diversity token. I'd rather read stories about Misty Knight, Monica Rambeau, and Moon Girl than anything involving Storm at this point.

I feel the same way. Honestly if the X office just let her go to the BP franchise (Like how Coastes pretty much just adopted Eden) then she would benefit for the better. Seriously X office should just let her go. They haven't done anything good for her in atleast what 20 years? She just ass for Logan to smash, then goes back to being a wind gust here, some lightning bolt there. Then Nothing. She should be on some heavy sh*t being able to be a big threat, but instead she is super weak
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: marvell2100 on May 01, 2017, 03:24:00 pm
We all know that T'Challa and Ororo can work. The problem is can it work outside of a BP book? The past has shown us that other than McDuffie, writers who aren't writing BP can't do isht right when it comes to them as a married couple.

Now that the "we want Storm back in the X-Verse" ship has sunk to the bottom of the ocean, she's suddenly an option again for BP. But does Marvel have the guts to do right by them this time? The success of BP and the buzz he's getting seems to indicate that Marvel wants to capitalize on that now and have other characters get on those coattails. Kinda funny since so many Unfans accused him of having to be propped up by other characters. They sure want to jump on the train now.

2005 unfan " BP sucks can't succeed unless he is leeching off of Storms popularity to get anywhere Lol trollface"

2017 unfan "I have been a T'Challa x Storm fan since they got married, and have Always been rooting for them"


No offense to people in advance.

But Storm fans live purely in the past at this point.

Her popularity exists thanks to a cartoon in the 90's. ANd she has been treated like background table scraps sense.

Comics don't care about her really. Movies keep putting her in the background in both universes.

They only reason she is "popular" still is because Marvel has made absolutely zero effort to develop another female WOC character. both in the comic side and movie side.

If the MCU had bigger balls, Black Widow would have had a movie years ago (scarlet is the second highest paid person they have!!!), Wasp would help hold down the white female hero too, and Captain Marvel would be about Monica, not Carol. At least Monica has a powerbase outside of "brick with energy powers." Could have even stolen some of Carols mythos and integrated them in.


If only Storm/X fans had half the foresight Mr. Hudlin had... she could be riding with the King during his popularity surge.

Serious question, has there really been any good times for her in her publication history? Seriously It seems like in order to find anything good for her, your digging back a decade or two.. Are they satisfied with her being glorifed wallpaper? She is the best WoC because her competition has less of a mythos fleshed out then her, so she wins just by showing up? Is that what her fans want? Atleast with Hudlin and Mcduffie, They had her doing sh*t. I saw fans complainign that she wasn't doing too much in BP at times but then i would think to myself, Isnt she still doing more then she was in Xmen? and she had her moments, quite a few good ones in Hudlins run and Mcduffie came correct too. So I just dong understand the need for them to want her to go back to Wallpaper and getting the scrapes of everyone else in the x office

She did strike some really cool poses and said goddess a lot. And she cried when Forge dumped her for Mystique.

That has to count for something.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on May 01, 2017, 08:08:17 pm
We all know that T'Challa and Ororo can work. The problem is can it work outside of a BP book? The past has shown us that other than McDuffie, writers who aren't writing BP can't do isht right when it comes to them as a married couple.

Now that the "we want Storm back in the X-Verse" ship has sunk to the bottom of the ocean, she's suddenly an option again for BP. But does Marvel have the guts to do right by them this time? The success of BP and the buzz he's getting seems to indicate that Marvel wants to capitalize on that now and have other characters get on those coattails. Kinda funny since so many Unfans accused him of having to be propped up by other characters. They sure want to jump on the train now.

2005 unfan " BP sucks can't succeed unless he is leeching off of Storms popularity to get anywhere Lol trollface"

2017 unfan "I have been a T'Challa x Storm fan since they got married, and have Always been rooting for them"


No offense to people in advance.

But Storm fans live purely in the past at this point.

Her popularity exists thanks to a cartoon in the 90's. ANd she has been treated like background table scraps sense.

Comics don't care about her really. Movies keep putting her in the background in both universes.

They only reason she is "popular" still is because Marvel has made absolutely zero effort to develop another female WOC character. both in the comic side and movie side.

If the MCU had bigger balls, Black Widow would have had a movie years ago (scarlet is the second highest paid person they have!!!), Wasp would help hold down the white female hero too, and Captain Marvel would be about Monica, not Carol. At least Monica has a powerbase outside of "brick with energy powers." Could have even stolen some of Carols mythos and integrated them in.


If only Storm/X fans had half the foresight Mr. Hudlin had... she could be riding with the King during his popularity surge.

Serious question, has there really been any good times for her in her publication history? Seriously It seems like in order to find anything good for her, your digging back a decade or two.. Are they satisfied with her being glorifed wallpaper? She is the best WoC because her competition has less of a mythos fleshed out then her, so she wins just by showing up? Is that what her fans want? Atleast with Hudlin and Mcduffie, They had her doing sh*t. I saw fans complainign that she wasn't doing too much in BP at times but then i would think to myself, Isnt she still doing more then she was in Xmen? and she had her moments, quite a few good ones in Hudlins run and Mcduffie came correct too. So I just dong understand the need for them to want her to go back to Wallpaper and getting the scrapes of everyone else in the x office

She did strike some really cool poses and said goddess a lot. And she cried when Forge dumped her for Mystique.

That has to count for something.<<<---HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA [ SUPREME ILLUMINATI LAUGHTER ]


If I recall properly? Storm was a major star in Hudlin's run. She was the main star in LITTLE GREEN MEN. It started off with TChalla bein that dude? Ended with Storm rescuing TChalla and a whole planet from The Arena and stuff. Well balanced writing there, RH. You let both Storm and TChalla shine in major ways during that arc.

But imo? Storm kicked more glutes. Storm housed Eternity's consciousness under Maestro's pen. Storm backed down Tony Stark. Storm saved TChalla from Death and Storm opened the door for Shuri to be the new BP. And kept that door open in the face of some Royal Mother backlash. Storm served Princess Zanda. Storm chilled TChalla out...respectfully...by pulling TChalla to the side to talk, while saying that she doesn't want to embarass him [ TChalla ] in front of their friends. Storm Storm Storm Storm is that fiya.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on May 01, 2017, 09:51:34 pm
Not to take away the Thunder, but didn't Tchalla and Ben kinda save themselves? While Storm Showed up with an army ready to rescue and Tchalla walks out of a burning building in a supa fly manner
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on May 01, 2017, 10:00:45 pm
Not to take away the Thunder, but didn't Tchalla and Ben kinda save themselves? While Storm Showed up with an army ready to rescue and Tchalla walks out of a burning building in a supa fly manner

Yep. That DID happen. But? The simultaneous assault helps. TCharlie+Ben on the inside wreckin shop, Storm and Company from the outside coming in.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: marvell2100 on May 03, 2017, 01:25:23 pm
We all know that T'Challa and Ororo can work. The problem is can it work outside of a BP book? The past has shown us that other than McDuffie, writers who aren't writing BP can't do isht right when it comes to them as a married couple.

Now that the "we want Storm back in the X-Verse" ship has sunk to the bottom of the ocean, she's suddenly an option again for BP. But does Marvel have the guts to do right by them this time? The success of BP and the buzz he's getting seems to indicate that Marvel wants to capitalize on that now and have other characters get on those coattails. Kinda funny since so many Unfans accused him of having to be propped up by other characters. They sure want to jump on the train now.

2005 unfan " BP sucks can't succeed unless he is leeching off of Storms popularity to get anywhere Lol trollface"

2017 unfan "I have been a T'Challa x Storm fan since they got married, and have Always been rooting for them"


No offense to people in advance.

But Storm fans live purely in the past at this point.

Her popularity exists thanks to a cartoon in the 90's. ANd she has been treated like background table scraps sense.

Comics don't care about her really. Movies keep putting her in the background in both universes.

They only reason she is "popular" still is because Marvel has made absolutely zero effort to develop another female WOC character. both in the comic side and movie side.

If the MCU had bigger balls, Black Widow would have had a movie years ago (scarlet is the second highest paid person they have!!!), Wasp would help hold down the white female hero too, and Captain Marvel would be about Monica, not Carol. At least Monica has a powerbase outside of "brick with energy powers." Could have even stolen some of Carols mythos and integrated them in.


If only Storm/X fans had half the foresight Mr. Hudlin had... she could be riding with the King during his popularity surge.

Serious question, has there really been any good times for her in her publication history? Seriously It seems like in order to find anything good for her, your digging back a decade or two.. Are they satisfied with her being glorifed wallpaper? She is the best WoC because her competition has less of a mythos fleshed out then her, so she wins just by showing up? Is that what her fans want? Atleast with Hudlin and Mcduffie, They had her doing sh*t. I saw fans complainign that she wasn't doing too much in BP at times but then i would think to myself, Isnt she still doing more then she was in Xmen? and she had her moments, quite a few good ones in Hudlins run and Mcduffie came correct too. So I just dong understand the need for them to want her to go back to Wallpaper and getting the scrapes of everyone else in the x office

She did strike some really cool poses and said goddess a lot. And she cried when Forge dumped her for Mystique.

That has to count for something.<<<---HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA [ SUPREME ILLUMINATI LAUGHTER ]


If I recall properly? Storm was a major star in Hudlin's run. She was the main star in LITTLE GREEN MEN. It started off with TChalla bein that dude? Ended with Storm rescuing TChalla and a whole planet from The Arena and stuff. Well balanced writing there, RH. You let both Storm and TChalla shine in major ways during that arc.

But imo? Storm kicked more glutes. Storm housed Eternity's consciousness under Maestro's pen. Storm backed down Tony Stark. Storm saved TChalla from Death and Storm opened the door for Shuri to be the new BP. And kept that door open in the face of some Royal Mother backlash. Storm served Princess Zanda. Storm chilled TChalla out...respectfully...by pulling TChalla to the side to talk, while saying that she doesn't want to embarass him [ TChalla ] in front of their friends. Storm Storm Storm Storm is that fiya.

She's no longer a player among the X-Men. If you can't take control and lead a group that doesn't have Logan, Prof X, Scott or Jean in it, then wtf? The X-Office was so busy trying to troll BP and his fans that they made her an ineffective joke. They throw out a solo with no solid proof that she could support it. She has no arch-villain, no compelling storylines to draw from(Hudlin gave them one but they ignored it) and no hook to bring in new readers other than being a mutant.

Jokes on them.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mortal Man on May 03, 2017, 02:00:24 pm
Damn Storm...

Took Jean, Xavier, Logan and Cyclops all dying, literally dying, for you to get that promotion...

and then you embarrasses and demote yourself in shame?

Screw it, at least you'll always have that popularity plaque you won from Wonder Woman 20 years ago, I don't care how many hundreds of millions Diana's movie sells!
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: marvell2100 on May 03, 2017, 02:03:26 pm
Damn Storm...

Took Jean, Xavier, Logan and Cyclops all dying, literally dying, for you to get that promotion...

and then you embarrasses and demote yourself in shame?

Screw it, at least you'll always have that popularity plaque you won from Wonder Woman 20 years ago, I don't care how many hundreds of millions Diana's movie sells!

She gets chumped by Kitty and Emma.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: MindofShadow on May 03, 2017, 02:04:59 pm
Damn Storm...

Took Jean, Xavier, Logan and Cyclops all dying, literally dying, for you to get that promotion...

and then you embarrasses and demote yourself in shame?

Screw it, at least you'll always have that popularity plaque you won from Wonder Woman 20 years ago, I don't care how many hundreds of millions Diana's movie sells!

Man, her fans show up in droves for those polls.


I think i saw a recent one wehre Storm was top 20 and freaking miles was like 80 something

and im just like... really? where Storm at on those Diamond charts.... 

Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: marvell2100 on May 03, 2017, 02:15:49 pm
Damn Storm...

Took Jean, Xavier, Logan and Cyclops all dying, literally dying, for you to get that promotion...

and then you embarrasses and demote yourself in shame?

Screw it, at least you'll always have that popularity plaque you won from Wonder Woman 20 years ago, I don't care how many hundreds of millions Diana's movie sells!

Man, her fans show up in droves for those polls.


I think i saw a recent one wehre Storm was top 20 and freaking miles was like 80 something

and im just like... really? where Storm at on those Diamond charts....

Who do you think is starting all these polls?
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on May 03, 2017, 04:02:58 pm
Its Funny but not really. I am Wonder if the X office would finally kick storm out so that she can be adopted into the BP Mythos and actually be able to amount to something other then 5th in place to lead the X men... When all the others are literally dead, and the other two who would chump her are busy doing other things. I mean seriously she goes from Queen of the most advanced nation on earth to.... Regular wallpaper xman? who is a piece of ass to logan occasionally (if thats even a thing now or is she cast aside there too?) and then fades back to obscurity.. I mean How can Storm "Fans" even act like that is okay? or be satisfied with that? Atleasdt with T'challa she was doing cool sh*t like spsce travel, or beating back a Alien invasion, and actually doing sh*t that allowed her to cut loose a bit.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: KIP LEWIS on May 03, 2017, 04:57:01 pm
I really think that they will not remarry as long as Marvel doesn't in the movie rights to Storm.  Then again, it's not like they seem to care that anything else looks like the movies.  (Except for the Guardians.)
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Booshman on May 03, 2017, 04:59:34 pm

She's no longer a player among the X-Men. If you can't take control and lead a group that doesn't have Logan, Prof X, Scott or Jean in it, then wtf? The X-Office was so busy trying to troll BP and his fans that they made her an ineffective joke. They throw out a solo with no solid proof that she could support it. She has no arch-villain, no compelling storylines to draw from(Hudlin gave them one but they ignored it) and no hook to bring in new readers other than being a mutant.

Jokes on them.

Greg Pak wanted to write a solo for her before too, but was turned down by the X-Office. Greg Pak, a man who has serious notoriety at Marvel and is so skilled that he fully separated War Machine from Iron Man's shadow. At the Toronto Fan Expo in 2014, he flatout admitted that Kamala Khan's success was the sole reason that he was able to convince the higher ups to give Storm to get a solo book.

http://nerdbastards.com/2014/08/31/fan-expo-marvel-staff-teases-big-changes-on-comics-side-of-things/ (http://nerdbastards.com/2014/08/31/fan-expo-marvel-staff-teases-big-changes-on-comics-side-of-things/)
(Third Paragraph after the Wolverine picture.)

I mean, think about it. EVEN DOOP, the "Floating Intergalactic Pickle" had a solo book before Storm.

Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on May 03, 2017, 05:27:32 pm
X office just has some weird issue with allowing Storm to spread her wings, potential squandered and for what? Literally no good reason. 90s  cartoon and nearly 20years in Xmen films.. and nothing. Tchalla was the answer.
In his franchise she was was part of the FF z Avenger's could of had more s little more shine on TRO, BP hype is real and she could be shining on that too. I mean WHY?? What's the logic? She has done nothing at all. She has hit Rock bottom, do xoffice took a Boring machine and proceeds to keep driving her down further and further.
 
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mortal Man on May 03, 2017, 05:48:50 pm
Its Funny but not really. I am Wonder if the X office would finally kick storm out so that she can be adopted into the BP Mythos and actually be able to amount to something other then 5th in place to lead the X men..


Nah, they need her for their diversity quota.  Bishop takes too much effort to write-in, whereas Storm slides in quite nicely into the background of any situation.


Greg Pak wanted to write a solo for her before too, but was turned down by the X-Office. Greg Pak, a man who has serious notoriety at Marvel and is so skilled that he fully separated War Machine from Iron Man's shadow. At the Toronto Fan Expo in 2014, he flatout admitted that Kamala Khan's success was the sole reason that he was able to convince the higher ups to give Storm to get a solo book.

[url]http://nerdbastards.com/2014/08/31/fan-expo-marvel-staff-teases-big-changes-on-comics-side-of-things/[/url] ([url]http://nerdbastards.com/2014/08/31/fan-expo-marvel-staff-teases-big-changes-on-comics-side-of-things/[/url])
(Third Paragraph after the Wolverine picture.)

I mean, think about it. EVEN DOOP, the "Floating Intergalactic Pickle" had a solo book before Storm.




Marvel's still racist (and sexist).  They must've been furious with Hudlin, biding their time for him to leave so they could condemn Storm back to eternal mediocrity without parole.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: KIP LEWIS on May 03, 2017, 06:01:51 pm
X office just has some weird issue with allowing Storm to spread her wings, potential squandered and for what? Literally no good reason. 90s  cartoon and nearly 20years in Xmen films.. and nothing. Tchalla was the answer.
In his franchise she was was part of the FF z Avenger's could of had more s little more shine on TRO, BP hype is real and she could be shining on that too. I mean WHY?? What's the logic? She has done nothing at all. She has hit Rock bottom, do xoffice took a Boring machine and proceeds to keep driving her down further and further.
 


If I was to guess, for many uber Storm-fans, Storm must be the lead in any relationship.  She has to be the Superman, he is Lois.  They can't be equal partners.  (Wolverine can escape this, bc a) they've never really got as serious as BP n Storm, and there are more Wolverine fans than Storm fans.)
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on May 03, 2017, 07:43:07 pm
X office just has some weird issue with allowing Storm to spread her wings, potential squandered and for what? Literally no good reason. 90s  cartoon and nearly 20years in Xmen films.. and nothing. Tchalla was the answer.
In his franchise she was was part of the FF z Avenger's could of had more s little more shine on TRO, BP hype is real and she could be shining on that too. I mean WHY?? What's the logic? She has done nothing at all. She has hit Rock bottom, do xoffice took a Boring machine and proceeds to keep driving her down further and further.
 


If I was to guess, for many uber Storm-fans, Storm must be the lead in any relationship.  She has to be the Superman, he is Lois.  They can't be equal partners.  (Wolverine can escape this, bc a) they've never really got as serious as BP n Storm, and there are more Wolverine fans than Storm fans.)
If that were the case then that would be the dumbest thing ever. It's seen Storm fans would rather condemn her to mediocrity instead of having any opportunity to grow and actually form her own path. It's crazy how poorly she has fallen since she had a chance to be apart of something big
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on May 03, 2017, 08:56:48 pm
You know that guy who didn't have much experience in relationships prior to meeting "the one" (the girl of his dreams), but then him and her have a messy break up but he's still so sprung for her, talking about she's his best friend, can't look at another woman, etc etc... all the while she's back in her old neighborhood poppin and lockin it for the goons, knowing that once she's had her fun she can always crawl back to his open waiting arms?


Yea...  we all know that guy.  We make threads about him on the daily :/


I don't know THAT em effeh AT ALL. In fact, I truly do not have a single person of either gender who is part of my life that I know is an adherent of the kind of the behavior described above.

Now. I DO KNOW a guy, though.

This guy? Was such a highly desired male that the Father of Shang-Chi groomed a woman to marry specifically him. This guy? Is literally the most sought after bachelor in the MU. This guy? Without even TRYING was having Susan Richards catchin feelinz for him. This guy? Is incredibly attractive to literally every dime piece in the MU. A must have sexual desire of every Villain, heroine, or in between in the MCU. This guy? Most certainly loved him some Ororo, but it was a healthy love. No T'Chumpa facets or aspects, at all. And Ororo? Loved this guy right back. Healthy beat for healthy beat.

That sucka that our good brutha Mortal Man...with expert, well understood and well received scathing sarcasm [ could practically see him rolling his eyes n givin heads the finger ] obliquely referred to in his posts above...has nothing to do with OUR guy. THAT guy? The one that Mortal Man referred to?

Is a racist construct by racist White writers who had a literal Tea Party fit after RH, and displayed their pre-Trumpian colors by hating on TChalla at every chance they get.

And those Marvel Trumpers? Are going to throw up in their vomit when BLACK PANTHER the movie comes out, completely smashes, and now the social norm is: BLACK PANTHER IS TOO COOL FOR FOOLS. Those writers? Will either be muzzled outright or...horror of horrors...be forced to write glowing stories extolling the greatness of TChalla outright, in ways that he should rightfully be celebrated, and embraced.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/WnPlDD9ld8f4s/giphy.gif)

The exact response i was fishing for, perfectly executed lol. Much respect.

I despise the toxicity of what their relationship is now, compared to what it was last decade when T'Challa was allowed to still have his balls.  Back when they were both equally sought after and chose each other, as opposed to this one sided swinger fest while BP is on the couch in necropolis with a bucket of ice cream listening to love songs.


(https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/stormblackpanthermarriage11.jpg)


makes you want to f*cking puke.

I stopped reading most Marvel comics for a while, after that. I went almost entirely full DC.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Booshman on May 04, 2017, 12:58:57 am
If that were the case then that would be the dumbest thing ever. It's seen Storm fans would rather condemn her to mediocrity instead of having any opportunity to grow and actually form her own path. It's crazy how poorly she has fallen since she had a chance to be apart of something big

That green grass turned out to be hay.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: MindofShadow on May 04, 2017, 05:01:37 am
She never should have left the Cyclops side of the X-men.

she needed to be Cyclops moral center as he descended into madness essentially. Similar to the role she played on the Extinction Team. She needed to be the opposite of Emma.

She had no role on the school/wolverine side. Wolverine filled all the roles lol.

Unfortunately, she came to "prominence" on the X Line during the worst period of X-Men comics in a long time.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: A.Curry on May 04, 2017, 05:49:25 am
She never should have left the Cyclops side of the X-men.

she needed to be Cyclops moral center as he descended into madness essentially. Similar to the role she played on the Extinction Team. She needed to be the opposite of Emma.

She had no role on the school/wolverine side. Wolverine filled all the roles lol.

Unfortunately, she came to "prominence" on the X Line during the worst period of X-Men comics in a long time.

Coming back on here after a while and saw this reply...and totally agree.  Warren Ellis during his short stint actually had Storm while married to T'Challa working with Cyclops team and she played incredibly well opposite Emma while showcasing her physical and mutant prowess.  Read the "xenogenesis" storyline Ellis wrote for good Storm also.

Thing Is, Claremont did so much and the most with Storm's growth as a character when she went from being a seemingly mystical type weather goddess to a warrior even without powers (Morlocks storyline, when she lost her powers, becoming one with the Acanti, leadership during the "outback" years, leadership of the "gold team") to leading the Xmen at different times for quite a while that it almost seems new writers now don't know what to do with her and haven't for years. But then again, they haven't known what to do with the X-MEN for years now hence their declining sales.

And none of the Xmen can really hold their own comic, and were never designed to.  Wolverine doesn't count because he first came on and was intended as a solo character that got put in later.  Storm's whole purpose was to be a part of a team, or family.  They really just need to do more with her in the Xmen again.

I like her and T'Challa together when written well...but Storm fans in this "woke" and feminist age will simply see her being taken outside of her "family" to serve as Black Panther's "Mera" so to speak...and no matter how you cut it she would be a secondary character to that main character's book and mythos.  Since its called "the Black Panther".

It would be cool and maybe a compromise however if they were to just date and she show up in his book every now and then while still being with her "family" in the Xmen.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: MindofShadow on May 04, 2017, 05:52:10 am
Soon, once Aquaman blows up with Mera in tow (being optimistic about Wan)...

Storm fans are going to WISH she was a Mera.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: The Wakandan on May 04, 2017, 06:25:51 am


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makes you want to f*cking puke.


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Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on May 04, 2017, 07:23:41 am
They could of also done what fans wanted and made a Black Panther and Storm series, showing the time when. They were married and going on adventures, hell even now with them dating you could do something like that, but basically have the. Working together and doing superhero sh*t. Otherwise she is wasting away doing nothing because fans don't want her to be a supporting cast member of another franchise and apparently to them being wallpaper is better
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: JRCarter on May 04, 2017, 08:08:03 am


(https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/stormblackpanthermarriage11.jpg)


makes you want to f*cking puke.

(https://media.tenor.co/images/f59b23d25a11596f2f7f1c0b3aae2351/raw)
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on May 04, 2017, 09:33:08 am
She never should have left the Cyclops side of the X-men.

she needed to be Cyclops moral center as he descended into madness essentially. Similar to the role she played on the Extinction Team. She needed to be the opposite of Emma.

She had no role on the school/wolverine side. Wolverine filled all the roles lol.

Unfortunately, she came to "prominence" on the X Line during the worst period of X-Men comics in a long time.

Coming back on here after a while and saw this reply...and totally agree.  Warren Ellis during his short stint actually had Storm while married to T'Challa working with Cyclops team and she played incredibly well opposite Emma while showcasing her physical and mutant prowess.  Read the "xenogenesis" storyline Ellis wrote for good Storm also.

Thing Is, Claremont did so much and the most with Storm's growth as a character when she went from being a seemingly mystical type weather goddess to a warrior even without powers (Morlocks storyline, when she lost her powers, becoming one with the Acanti, leadership during the "outback" years, leadership of the "gold team") to leading the Xmen at different times for quite a while that it almost seems new writers now don't know what to do with her and haven't for years. But then again, they haven't known what to do with the X-MEN for years now hence their declining sales.

And none of the Xmen can really hold their own comic, and were never designed to.  Wolverine doesn't count because he first came on and was intended as a solo character that got put in later.  Storm's whole purpose was to be a part of a team, or family.  They really just need to do more with her in the Xmen again.

I like her and T'Challa together when written well...but Storm fans in this "woke" and feminist age will simply see her being taken outside of her "family" to serve as Black Panther's "Mera" so to speak...and no matter how you cut it she would be a secondary character to that main character's book and mythos.  Since its called "the Black Panther".

It would be cool and maybe a compromise however if they were to just date and she show up in his book every now and then while still being with her "family" in the Xmen.

Whassup man. Been awhile.

I like your post above. I also [repeatedly stated for months that I ] liked ELLIS STORM better than any previous Storm overall, with the "best" of CC STORM as a close second, and YOST Storm was killin it, too. I have little to disagree with regarding your post above. I agree with everything...even acknowledging that it would be acompromise to have TChalla and Storm date for a year or so. Then have them marry after THE BLACK PANTHER SOLO MOVIE comes out and SMASHES ALL KINDS OF ANUS. Then? Like I said. TChalla will be a society changing engine making Black Panther TOO COOL FOR FOOLS. And then? The X-FANS won't be hatin on TChalla so much...because they can't. The general public will like and even love them some TChalla.

That's when sparks for their remarriage can really start to fly. And that's when. We can start bringing Ororo into the fold in BP's movies. And the X-Movies. Without taking any shine from Shuri or Ramonda or the Dora Milaje.

But. If we keep it all the way 100?

Eff the X-Fans hating on TChoro. No matter their color. I actually kinda wanna spar them, just to feel the joy of beating them down. Shouldn't be that way at my age, but...
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mastrmynd on May 04, 2017, 10:29:58 am
i see this thread is jumpin'.
Let me catch up.
it's my lunch break.
 8)
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mastrmynd on May 04, 2017, 10:35:15 am
My girl!
Thank you for blessing my thread with you 100-ness.
I totally agree with you.
Plus, you had me at Eaton.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: marvell2100 on May 04, 2017, 02:14:44 pm
She never should have left the Cyclops side of the X-men.

she needed to be Cyclops moral center as he descended into madness essentially. Similar to the role she played on the Extinction Team. She needed to be the opposite of Emma.

She had no role on the school/wolverine side. Wolverine filled all the roles lol.

Unfortunately, she came to "prominence" on the X Line during the worst period of X-Men comics in a long time.

Coming back on here after a while and saw this reply...and totally agree.  Warren Ellis during his short stint actually had Storm while married to T'Challa working with Cyclops team and she played incredibly well opposite Emma while showcasing her physical and mutant prowess.  Read the "xenogenesis" storyline Ellis wrote for good Storm also.

Thing Is, Claremont did so much and the most with Storm's growth as a character when she went from being a seemingly mystical type weather goddess to a warrior even without powers (Morlocks storyline, when she lost her powers, becoming one with the Acanti, leadership during the "outback" years, leadership of the "gold team") to leading the Xmen at different times for quite a while that it almost seems new writers now don't know what to do with her and haven't for years. But then again, they haven't known what to do with the X-MEN for years now hence their declining sales.

And none of the Xmen can really hold their own comic, and were never designed to.  Wolverine doesn't count because he first came on and was intended as a solo character that got put in later.  Storm's whole purpose was to be a part of a team, or family.  They really just need to do more with her in the Xmen again.

I like her and T'Challa together when written well...but Storm fans in this "woke" and feminist age will simply see her being taken outside of her "family" to serve as Black Panther's "Mera" so to speak...and no matter how you cut it she would be a secondary character to that main character's book and mythos.  Since its called "the Black Panther".

It would be cool and maybe a compromise however if they were to just date and she show up in his book every now and then while still being with her "family" in the Xmen.

Whassup man. Been awhile.

I like your post above. I also [repeatedly stated for months that I ] liked ELLIS STORM better than any previous Storm overall, with the "best" of CC STORM as a close second, and YOST Storm was killin it, too. I have little to disagree with regarding your post above. I agree with everything...even acknowledging that it would be acompromise to have TChalla and Storm date for a year or so. Then have them marry after THE BLACK PANTHER SOLO MOVIE comes out and SMASHES ALL KINDS OF ANUS. Then? Like I said. TChalla will be a society changing engine making Black Panther TOO COOL FOR FOOLS. And then? The X-FANS won't be hatin on TChalla so much...because they can't. The general public will like and even love them some TChalla.

That's when sparks for their remarriage can really start to fly. And that's when. We can start bringing Ororo into the fold in BP's movies. And the X-Movies. Without taking any shine from Shuri or Ramonda or the Dora Milaje.

But. If we keep it all the way 100?

Eff the X-Fans hating on TChoro. No matter their color. I actually kinda wanna spar them, just to feel the joy of beating them down. Shouldn't be that way at my age, but...

This is the greatest opportunity Marvel will ever have of saving Storm. Let her go, leave the X-verse. Her time there is done and there's nothing left for her to do.

Bring her to MCU BP movie #2 as a last scene cameo and watch the buzz effin' fly. Barack and Michelle Obama in the MCU.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: MindofShadow on May 04, 2017, 02:20:48 pm
It seems like they let go of Rogue... why not Storm?
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: marvell2100 on May 04, 2017, 02:29:25 pm
It seems like they let go of Rogue... why not Storm?

They got plans.

I.e. they got nothing.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: 4sake on May 04, 2017, 02:51:04 pm
It seems like they let go of Rogue... why not Storm?

It seems like they let go of Rogue... why not Storm?

They got plans.

I.e. they got nothing.

plans to do nothing much at all sadly..

Rogue was freeded because she had back to back powerful writers (with editors backing ) taking the main control of her character arc.. Which why I wasn't shocked to see her back on X men team book roster after Duggan left UA.. If the new main writer of UA isn't as powerful as Soule then she'll probably be back to an X-men character only soon. Sadly..
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: A.Curry on May 04, 2017, 04:16:07 pm
Soon, once Aquaman blows up with Mera in tow (being optimistic about Wan)...

Storm fans are going to WISH she was a Mera.

That's the point though...look at your words..."with Mera in tow"...basically saying Mera will only be getting shine because she's with Aquaman.  Not on her own.  Not that DC ever tried.

X-fans want Storm to shine on her own and with her family.  And as much as we may not want to admit it, and no matter how she s being treated in the franchise currently, by most she s always gonna be an X-Men before Tchalla's wife.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: A.Curry on May 04, 2017, 04:25:01 pm
She never should have left the Cyclops side of the X-men.

she needed to be Cyclops moral center as he descended into madness essentially. Similar to the role she played on the Extinction Team. She needed to be the opposite of Emma.

She had no role on the school/wolverine side. Wolverine filled all the roles lol.

Unfortunately, she came to "prominence" on the X Line during the worst period of X-Men comics in a long time.

Coming back on here after a while and saw this reply...and totally agree.  Warren Ellis during his short stint actually had Storm while married to T'Challa working with Cyclops team and she played incredibly well opposite Emma while showcasing her physical and mutant prowess.  Read the "xenogenesis" storyline Ellis wrote for good Storm also.

Thing Is, Claremont did so much and the most with Storm's growth as a character when she went from being a seemingly mystical type weather goddess to a warrior even without powers (Morlocks storyline, when she lost her powers, becoming one with the Acanti, leadership during the "outback" years, leadership of the "gold team") to leading the Xmen at different times for quite a while that it almost seems new writers now don't know what to do with her and haven't for years. But then again, they haven't known what to do with the X-MEN for years now hence their declining sales.

And none of the Xmen can really hold their own comic, and were never designed to.  Wolverine doesn't count because he first came on and was intended as a solo character that got put in later.  Storm's whole purpose was to be a part of a team, or family.  They really just need to do more with her in the Xmen again.

I like her and T'Challa together when written well...but Storm fans in this "woke" and feminist age will simply see her being taken outside of her "family" to serve as Black Panther's "Mera" so to speak...and no matter how you cut it she would be a secondary character to that main character's book and mythos.  Since its called "the Black Panther".

It would be cool and maybe a compromise however if they were to just date and she show up in his book every now and then while still being with her "family" in the Xmen.

Whassup man. Been awhile.

I like your post above. I also [repeatedly stated for months that I ] liked ELLIS STORM better than any previous Storm overall, with the "best" of CC STORM as a close second, and YOST Storm was killin it, too. I have little to disagree with regarding your post above. I agree with everything...even acknowledging that it would be acompromise to have TChalla and Storm date for a year or so. Then have them marry after THE BLACK PANTHER SOLO MOVIE comes out and SMASHES ALL KINDS OF ANUS. Then? Like I said. TChalla will be a society changing engine making Black Panther TOO COOL FOR FOOLS. And then? The X-FANS won't be hatin on TChalla so much...because they can't. The general public will like and even love them some TChalla.

That's when sparks for their remarriage can really start to fly. And that's when. We can start bringing Ororo into the fold in BP's movies. And the X-Movies. Without taking any shine from Shuri or Ramonda or the Dora Milaje.

But. If we keep it all the way 100?

Eff the X-Fans hating on TChoro. No matter their color. I actually kinda wanna spar them, just to feel the joy of beating them down. Shouldn't be that way at my age, but...

This is the greatest opportunity Marvel will ever have of saving Storm. Let her go, leave the X-verse. Her time there is done and there's nothing left for her to do.

Bring her to MCU BP movie #2 as a last scene cameo and watch the buzz effin' fly. Barack and Michelle Obama in the MCU.

Dunno...thats speculation.  A writer, A good writer heavily invested in the Xmen as a unit and Storm's character could find plenty for her to do and make her compelling still.  Warren Ellis did .  Marvel really hasn't known what to do with the X-MEN as a whole for years...not just Storm.  Personally would rather she be wallpaper than her go the route Cyclops went, for instance. But movie Storm sucked mostly.

For that matter, they really haven't known what to do with BP either at least in the comics in the last few years, or ever since at least Hudlon left.  So outside the movie, not sure how she'd fare there either.  But she IS an Xman staple no.matter how she may be written now, so why not compromise and have her connected to Tchalla whole still an Xman?
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: marvell2100 on May 04, 2017, 04:30:54 pm
Soon, once Aquaman blows up with Mera in tow (being optimistic about Wan)...

Storm fans are going to WISH she was a Mera.

That's the point though...look at your words..."with Mera in tow"...basically saying Mera will only be getting shine because she's with Aquaman.  Not on her own.  Not that DC ever tried.

X-fans want Storm to shine on her own and with her family.  And as much as we may not want to admit it, and no matter how she s being treated in the franchise currently, by most she s always gonna be an X-Men before Tchalla's wife.

She's a sometime piece for Logan, a onetime leader nobody respects and does not have any compelling storylines in the works. No shine going on for her at all.

Even her fans know that she's hit rock bottom. They can't name anything of significance that she's done lately, just living in past glories and favorite hair styles. They'll start a poll just to remind people that she used to be popular. but that don't mean squat.

Storm is like that old 80's TV star who was big back in the day but can't get work because she's no longer relevant. They'll guest star on a sitcom every once in a while but nothing of substance.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: marvell2100 on May 04, 2017, 04:37:23 pm
She never should have left the Cyclops side of the X-men.

she needed to be Cyclops moral center as he descended into madness essentially. Similar to the role she played on the Extinction Team. She needed to be the opposite of Emma.

She had no role on the school/wolverine side. Wolverine filled all the roles lol.

Unfortunately, she came to "prominence" on the X Line during the worst period of X-Men comics in a long time.

Coming back on here after a while and saw this reply...and totally agree.  Warren Ellis during his short stint actually had Storm while married to T'Challa working with Cyclops team and she played incredibly well opposite Emma while showcasing her physical and mutant prowess.  Read the "xenogenesis" storyline Ellis wrote for good Storm also.

Thing Is, Claremont did so much and the most with Storm's growth as a character when she went from being a seemingly mystical type weather goddess to a warrior even without powers (Morlocks storyline, when she lost her powers, becoming one with the Acanti, leadership during the "outback" years, leadership of the "gold team") to leading the Xmen at different times for quite a while that it almost seems new writers now don't know what to do with her and haven't for years. But then again, they haven't known what to do with the X-MEN for years now hence their declining sales.

And none of the Xmen can really hold their own comic, and were never designed to.  Wolverine doesn't count because he first came on and was intended as a solo character that got put in later.  Storm's whole purpose was to be a part of a team, or family.  They really just need to do more with her in the Xmen again.

I like her and T'Challa together when written well...but Storm fans in this "woke" and feminist age will simply see her being taken outside of her "family" to serve as Black Panther's "Mera" so to speak...and no matter how you cut it she would be a secondary character to that main character's book and mythos.  Since its called "the Black Panther".

It would be cool and maybe a compromise however if they were to just date and she show up in his book every now and then while still being with her "family" in the Xmen.

Whassup man. Been awhile.

I like your post above. I also [repeatedly stated for months that I ] liked ELLIS STORM better than any previous Storm overall, with the "best" of CC STORM as a close second, and YOST Storm was killin it, too. I have little to disagree with regarding your post above. I agree with everything...even acknowledging that it would be acompromise to have TChalla and Storm date for a year or so. Then have them marry after THE BLACK PANTHER SOLO MOVIE comes out and SMASHES ALL KINDS OF ANUS. Then? Like I said. TChalla will be a society changing engine making Black Panther TOO COOL FOR FOOLS. And then? The X-FANS won't be hatin on TChalla so much...because they can't. The general public will like and even love them some TChalla.

That's when sparks for their remarriage can really start to fly. And that's when. We can start bringing Ororo into the fold in BP's movies. And the X-Movies. Without taking any shine from Shuri or Ramonda or the Dora Milaje.

But. If we keep it all the way 100?

Eff the X-Fans hating on TChoro. No matter their color. I actually kinda wanna spar them, just to feel the joy of beating them down. Shouldn't be that way at my age, but...

This is the greatest opportunity Marvel will ever have of saving Storm. Let her go, leave the X-verse. Her time there is done and there's nothing left for her to do.

Bring her to MCU BP movie #2 as a last scene cameo and watch the buzz effin' fly. Barack and Michelle Obama in the MCU.

Dunno...thats speculation.  A writer, A good writer heavily invested in the Xmen as a unit and Storm's character could find plenty for her to do and make her compelling still.  Warren Ellis did .  Marvel really hasn't known what to do with the X-MEN as a whole for years...not just Storm.  Personally would rather she be wallpaper than her go the route Cyclops went, for instance. But movie Storm sucked mostly.

For that matter, they really haven't known what to do with BP either at least in the comics in the last few years, or ever since at least Hudlon left.  So outside the movie, not sure how she'd fare there either.  But she IS an Xman staple no.matter how she may be written now, so why not compromise and have her connected to Tchalla whole still an Xman?

Greg Pak tried. Nothing. She's stuck in a rut in the X-Men. BP was her out. Reggie Hudlin showed what you could do with a power couple in the right hands. You won't get that in the X-Men. What did they do when she left BP? Throw her in bed with Logan as a piece. What important storyline in the X-Men was she the key player? Nothing.

Emma and Kitty are the leading ladies of the X-Men. Look at what they are doing with Rogue. Major time leading an Avengers team, key player, getting spotlight and love. She broke out of the rut and is doing her thing. Storm is just broken in the X-verse.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on May 04, 2017, 04:55:22 pm
She never should have left the Cyclops side of the X-men.

she needed to be Cyclops moral center as he descended into madness essentially. Similar to the role she played on the Extinction Team. She needed to be the opposite of Emma.

She had no role on the school/wolverine side. Wolverine filled all the roles lol.

Unfortunately, she came to "prominence" on the X Line during the worst period of X-Men comics in a long time.

Coming back on here after a while and saw this reply...and totally agree.  Warren Ellis during his short stint actually had Storm while married to T'Challa working with Cyclops team and she played incredibly well opposite Emma while showcasing her physical and mutant prowess.  Read the "xenogenesis" storyline Ellis wrote for good Storm also.

Thing Is, Claremont did so much and the most with Storm's growth as a character when she went from being a seemingly mystical type weather goddess to a warrior even without powers (Morlocks storyline, when she lost her powers, becoming one with the Acanti, leadership during the "outback" years, leadership of the "gold team") to leading the Xmen at different times for quite a while that it almost seems new writers now don't know what to do with her and haven't for years. But then again, they haven't known what to do with the X-MEN for years now hence their declining sales.

And none of the Xmen can really hold their own comic, and were never designed to.  Wolverine doesn't count because he first came on and was intended as a solo character that got put in later.  Storm's whole purpose was to be a part of a team, or family.  They really just need to do more with her in the Xmen again.

I like her and T'Challa together when written well...but Storm fans in this "woke" and feminist age will simply see her being taken outside of her "family" to serve as Black Panther's "Mera" so to speak...and no matter how you cut it she would be a secondary character to that main character's book and mythos.  Since its called "the Black Panther".

It would be cool and maybe a compromise however if they were to just date and she show up in his book every now and then while still being with her "family" in the Xmen.

Whassup man. Been awhile.

I like your post above. I also [repeatedly stated for months that I ] liked ELLIS STORM better than any previous Storm overall, with the "best" of CC STORM as a close second, and YOST Storm was killin it, too. I have little to disagree with regarding your post above. I agree with everything...even acknowledging that it would be acompromise to have TChalla and Storm date for a year or so. Then have them marry after THE BLACK PANTHER SOLO MOVIE comes out and SMASHES ALL KINDS OF ANUS. Then? Like I said. TChalla will be a society changing engine making Black Panther TOO COOL FOR FOOLS. And then? The X-FANS won't be hatin on TChalla so much...because they can't. The general public will like and even love them some TChalla.

That's when sparks for their remarriage can really start to fly. And that's when. We can start bringing Ororo into the fold in BP's movies. And the X-Movies. Without taking any shine from Shuri or Ramonda or the Dora Milaje.

But. If we keep it all the way 100?

Eff the X-Fans hating on TChoro. No matter their color. I actually kinda wanna spar them, just to feel the joy of beating them down. Shouldn't be that way at my age, but...

This is the greatest opportunity Marvel will ever have of saving Storm. Let her go, leave the X-verse. Her time there is done and there's nothing left for her to do.

Bring her to MCU BP movie #2 as a last scene cameo and watch the buzz effin' fly. Barack and Michelle Obama in the MCU.

Dunno...thats speculation.  A writer, A good writer heavily invested in the Xmen as a unit and Storm's character could find plenty for her to do and make her compelling still.  Warren Ellis did .  Marvel really hasn't known what to do with the X-MEN as a whole for years...not just Storm.  Personally would rather she be wallpaper than her go the route Cyclops went, for instance. But movie Storm sucked mostly.

For that matter, they really haven't known what to do with BP either at least in the comics in the last few years, or ever since at least Hudlon left.  So outside the movie, not sure how she'd fare there either.  But she IS an Xman staple no.matter how she may be written now, so why not compromise and have her connected to Tchalla whole still an Xman?
The story mini world's apart was the comprise,
that's how you merge her being Queen and an Xmen. Which would lead to great stories and huge opportunity for her to actually develop as a character With a rogue gallery and the lot's of wiggle room. but Logan needed or bust a nut and sooooo..

Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Hypestyle on May 04, 2017, 05:07:00 pm
if a malevolent entity like Mephisto can somehow rend the Peter & Mary Jane marriage asunder, then I submit that a benevolent deity like Bast can re-establish the marriage between T'Challa and Ororo and 'wipe out' the annulment era, including the Wolverine hookups.
I'd like to see a story like this. Hmm..
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ture on May 04, 2017, 05:58:46 pm
if a malevolent entity like Mephisto can somehow rend the Peter & Mary Jane marriage asunder, then I submit that a benevolent deity like Bast can re-establish the marriage between T'Challa and Ororo and 'wipe out' the annulment era, including the Wolverine hookups.
I'd like to see a story like this. Hmm..


Co Signed!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/6pjnF8qE6sqU8/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on May 04, 2017, 06:10:33 pm
if a malevolent entity like Mephisto can somehow rend the Peter & Mary Jane marriage asunder, then I submit that a benevolent deity like Bast can re-establish the marriage between T'Challa and Ororo and 'wipe out' the annulment era, including the Wolverine hookups.
I'd like to see a story like this. Hmm..


Co Signed!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/6pjnF8qE6sqU8/giphy.gif)

Double cosigned!!
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: JRCarter on May 04, 2017, 06:39:36 pm
if a malevolent entity like Mephisto can somehow rend the Peter & Mary Jane marriage asunder, then I submit that a benevolent deity like Bast can re-establish the marriage between T'Challa and Ororo and 'wipe out' the annulment era, including the Wolverine hookups.
I'd like to see a story like this. Hmm..


Co Signed!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/6pjnF8qE6sqU8/giphy.gif)

Double cosigned!!

Triple!
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: A.Curry on May 04, 2017, 07:27:23 pm
She never should have left the Cyclops side of the X-men.

she needed to be Cyclops moral center as he descended into madness essentially. Similar to the role she played on the Extinction Team. She needed to be the opposite of Emma.

She had no role on the school/wolverine side. Wolverine filled all the roles lol.

Unfortunately, she came to "prominence" on the X Line during the worst period of X-Men comics in a long time.

Coming back on here after a while and saw this reply...and totally agree.  Warren Ellis during his short stint actually had Storm while married to T'Challa working with Cyclops team and she played incredibly well opposite Emma while showcasing her physical and mutant prowess.  Read the "xenogenesis" storyline Ellis wrote for good Storm also.

Thing Is, Claremont did so much and the most with Storm's growth as a character when she went from being a seemingly mystical type weather goddess to a warrior even without powers (Morlocks storyline, when she lost her powers, becoming one with the Acanti, leadership during the "outback" years, leadership of the "gold team") to leading the Xmen at different times for quite a while that it almost seems new writers now don't know what to do with her and haven't for years. But then again, they haven't known what to do with the X-MEN for years now hence their declining sales.

And none of the Xmen can really hold their own comic, and were never designed to.  Wolverine doesn't count because he first came on and was intended as a solo character that got put in later.  Storm's whole purpose was to be a part of a team, or family.  They really just need to do more with her in the Xmen again.

I like her and T'Challa together when written well...but Storm fans in this "woke" and feminist age will simply see her being taken outside of her "family" to serve as Black Panther's "Mera" so to speak...and no matter how you cut it she would be a secondary character to that main character's book and mythos.  Since its called "the Black Panther".

It would be cool and maybe a compromise however if they were to just date and she show up in his book every now and then while still being with her "family" in the Xmen.

Whassup man. Been awhile.

I like your post above. I also [repeatedly stated for months that I ] liked ELLIS STORM better than any previous Storm overall, with the "best" of CC STORM as a close second, and YOST Storm was killin it, too. I have little to disagree with regarding your post above. I agree with everything...even acknowledging that it would be acompromise to have TChalla and Storm date for a year or so. Then have them marry after THE BLACK PANTHER SOLO MOVIE comes out and SMASHES ALL KINDS OF ANUS. Then? Like I said. TChalla will be a society changing engine making Black Panther TOO COOL FOR FOOLS. And then? The X-FANS won't be hatin on TChalla so much...because they can't. The general public will like and even love them some TChalla.

That's when sparks for their remarriage can really start to fly. And that's when. We can start bringing Ororo into the fold in BP's movies. And the X-Movies. Without taking any shine from Shuri or Ramonda or the Dora Milaje.

But. If we keep it all the way 100?

Eff the X-Fans hating on TChoro. No matter their color. I actually kinda wanna spar them, just to feel the joy of beating them down. Shouldn't be that way at my age, but...

This is the greatest opportunity Marvel will ever have of saving Storm. Let her go, leave the X-verse. Her time there is done and there's nothing left for her to do.

Bring her to MCU BP movie #2 as a last scene cameo and watch the buzz effin' fly. Barack and Michelle Obama in the MCU.

Dunno...thats speculation.  A writer, A good writer heavily invested in the Xmen as a unit and Storm's character could find plenty for her to do and make her compelling still.  Warren Ellis did .  Marvel really hasn't known what to do with the X-MEN as a whole for years...not just Storm.  Personally would rather she be wallpaper than her go the route Cyclops went, for instance. But movie Storm sucked mostly.

For that matter, they really haven't known what to do with BP either at least in the comics in the last few years, or ever since at least Hudlon left.  So outside the movie, not sure how she'd fare there either.  But she IS an Xman staple no.matter how she may be written now, so why not compromise and have her connected to Tchalla whole still an Xman?

Greg Pak tried. Nothing. She's stuck in a rut in the X-Men. BP was her out. Reggie Hudlin showed what you could do with a power couple in the right hands. You won't get that in the X-Men. What did they do when she left BP? Throw her in bed with Logan as a piece. What important storyline in the X-Men was she the key player? Nothing.

Emma and Kitty are the leading ladies of the X-Men. Look at what they are doing with Rogue. Major time leading an Avengers team, key player, getting spotlight and love. She broke out of the rut and is doing her thing. Storm is just broken in the X-verse.

Greg Pak's book was weak and not very exciting or well written.  Even Storm's personality seemed off. But like I said, dont think most of the xmen were ever meant or designed to be solo characters.  Storm included...they all function far better as part of a team. And why are people still going on about the Logan thing?  That was years ago wasn't it?  I didn't like them getting together either but is that still a sore point for some?

Totally agree they haven't made her a key player in much but its.not like she didn't have her time because she was a top key player with heavy development for decades.  Maybe it's Kitty and Emma's time now.  Either way, any character can be written up by a good writer with strong interest, even within the same team book.  Saying a fictional character has hit "rock bottom" With nowhere to go doesn't gel when nearly anything can be done with them. With Panther however it's possible she could have done more but still not as an independent character but as the wife to the main lead.  Neither option probably isn't good to most fans of hers.  They'd probably just want to see her written prominently in the xmen more.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: A.Curry on May 05, 2017, 02:50:28 am
She never should have left the Cyclops side of the X-men.

she needed to be Cyclops moral center as he descended into madness essentially. Similar to the role she played on the Extinction Team. She needed to be the opposite of Emma.

She had no role on the school/wolverine side. Wolverine filled all the roles lol.

Unfortunately, she came to "prominence" on the X Line during the worst period of X-Men comics in a long time.

Coming back on here after a while and saw this reply...and totally agree.  Warren Ellis during his short stint actually had Storm while married to T'Challa working with Cyclops team and she played incredibly well opposite Emma while showcasing her physical and mutant prowess.  Read the "xenogenesis" storyline Ellis wrote for good Storm also.

Thing Is, Claremont did so much and the most with Storm's growth as a character when she went from being a seemingly mystical type weather goddess to a warrior even without powers (Morlocks storyline, when she lost her powers, becoming one with the Acanti, leadership during the "outback" years, leadership of the "gold team") to leading the Xmen at different times for quite a while that it almost seems new writers now don't know what to do with her and haven't for years. But then again, they haven't known what to do with the X-MEN for years now hence their declining sales.

And none of the Xmen can really hold their own comic, and were never designed to.  Wolverine doesn't count because he first came on and was intended as a solo character that got put in later.  Storm's whole purpose was to be a part of a team, or family.  They really just need to do more with her in the Xmen again.

I like her and T'Challa together when written well...but Storm fans in this "woke" and feminist age will simply see her being taken outside of her "family" to serve as Black Panther's "Mera" so to speak...and no matter how you cut it she would be a secondary character to that main character's book and mythos.  Since its called "the Black Panther".

It would be cool and maybe a compromise however if they were to just date and she show up in his book every now and then while still being with her "family" in the Xmen.

Whassup man. Been awhile.

I like your post above. I also [repeatedly stated for months that I ] liked ELLIS STORM better than any previous Storm overall, with the "best" of CC STORM as a close second, and YOST Storm was killin it, too. I have little to disagree with regarding your post above. I agree with everything...even acknowledging that it would be acompromise to have TChalla and Storm date for a year or so. Then have them marry after THE BLACK PANTHER SOLO MOVIE comes out and SMASHES ALL KINDS OF ANUS. Then? Like I said. TChalla will be a society changing engine making Black Panther TOO COOL FOR FOOLS. And then? The X-FANS won't be hatin on TChalla so much...because they can't. The general public will like and even love them some TChalla.

That's when sparks for their remarriage can really start to fly. And that's when. We can start bringing Ororo into the fold in BP's movies. And the X-Movies. Without taking any shine from Shuri or Ramonda or the Dora Milaje.

But. If we keep it all the way 100?

Eff the X-Fans hating on TChoro. No matter their color. I actually kinda wanna spar them, just to feel the joy of beating them down. Shouldn't be that way at my age, but...

Thanks Supreme for the compliment.  I like Ellis as a writer quite a bit and his Storm was really good for the short while he wrote Xmen.  Cant say though I liked it better than CC at his strongest though as he did a lot to develop the character.  Ellis did the best at recapturing her voice though.

I would've LOVED to have seen even back when Hudlon was writing Panther spending a year or so among the Xmen while wooing and getting to know his friend/former lobe Storm again.  Tchalla has spent years away from Wakanda with Avengers and what not, it might have been cool have not gone straight into the marriage and build it up with Panther helping the Xmen while spending time with Storm.  Playing chess with his old avenger ally Beast, debating with Xavier...that could have been a good build up.

In any case, there's so.much open to Panther now and hed probably be better off being with someon from.his world and mythos.  There is plenty of opportunity for that. 
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on May 05, 2017, 04:36:55 am
if a malevolent entity like Mephisto can somehow rend the Peter & Mary Jane marriage asunder, then I submit that a benevolent deity like Bast can re-establish the marriage between T'Challa and Ororo and 'wipe out' the annulment era, including the Wolverine hookups.
I'd like to see a story like this. Hmm..


Co Signed!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/6pjnF8qE6sqU8/giphy.gif)

Double cosigned!!

Triple!
Quadruple! (In my mind, they have a secret American marriage license that is still active.)
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Chesterfield on May 05, 2017, 11:01:37 am
As far as the MCU goes why complicate things? If they can get storm ala QS and Wanda then fine; if not then just use Tessa Thompson. As Valkyrie she's a "goddess" and she's black and not only is she in Thor Ragnarok this year but she'll be with Boseman and everyone else in IW. Problem solved!
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: KIP LEWIS on May 05, 2017, 03:13:26 pm
As far as the MCU goes why complicate things? If they can get storm ala QS and Wanda then fine; if not then just use Tessa Thompson. As Valkyrie she's a "goddess" and she's black and not only is she in Thor Ragnarok this year but she'll be with Boseman and everyone else in IW. Problem solved!

A Valkyrie and King of the Dead... Now that seems like a match.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: marvell2100 on May 05, 2017, 03:33:25 pm
if a malevolent entity like Mephisto can somehow rend the Peter & Mary Jane marriage asunder, then I submit that a benevolent deity like Bast can re-establish the marriage between T'Challa and Ororo and 'wipe out' the annulment era, including the Wolverine hookups.
I'd like to see a story like this. Hmm..

Very good post.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on May 05, 2017, 03:33:39 pm
As far as the MCU goes why complicate things? If they can get storm ala QS and Wanda then fine; if not then just use Tessa Thompson. As Valkyrie she's a "goddess" and she's black and not only is she in Thor Ragnarok this year but she'll be with Boseman and everyone else in IW. Problem solved!

A Valkyrie and King of the Dead... Now that seems like a match.

That would be pretty crazy. You think they are gonna race bend Comic Valk?
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: KIP LEWIS on May 05, 2017, 03:40:01 pm
As far as the MCU goes why complicate things? If they can get storm ala QS and Wanda then fine; if not then just use Tessa Thompson. As Valkyrie she's a "goddess" and she's black and not only is she in Thor Ragnarok this year but she'll be with Boseman and everyone else in IW. Problem solved!

A Valkyrie and King of the Dead... Now that seems like a match.

That would be pretty crazy. You think they are gonna race bend Comic Valk?

Valykrie originally was trapped within the body of Barbara (Something).  While Barbara was in her body.  They could always revisit that event, except now she has changed bodies with a Wakandan woman.  Or just introduce a new one; after all Valykrie is a position, not a name
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Ezyo on May 05, 2017, 03:52:57 pm
As far as the MCU goes why complicate things? If they can get storm ala QS and Wanda then fine; if not then just use Tessa Thompson. As Valkyrie she's a "goddess" and she's black and not only is she in Thor Ragnarok this year but she'll be with Boseman and everyone else in IW. Problem solved!

A Valkyrie and King of the Dead... Now that seems like a match.

That would be pretty crazy. You think they are gonna race bend Comic Valk?

Valykrie originally was trapped within the body of Barbara (Something).  While Barbara was in her body.  They could always revisit that event, except now she has changed bodies with a Wakandan woman.  Or just introduce a new one; after all Valykrie is a position, not a name

I see, It could be fun so have T'Challa have some ties to Thor too, lots of fun adventures there
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mastrmynd on May 05, 2017, 05:23:25 pm
It seems like they let go of Rogue... why not Storm?

Diversity?
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: CvilleWakandan on May 05, 2017, 06:37:09 pm
The story mini world's apart was the comprise,
that's how you merge her being Queen and an Xmen. Which would lead to great stories and huge opportunity for her to actually develop as a character With a rogue gallery and the lot's of wiggle room. but Logan needed or bust a nut and sooooo..


During that arc, she apologized for not being there when Kitty phased a giant bullet through the planet(anime style)?

I didn't read the whole story. Was there something her powers could have done to help?
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on May 05, 2017, 10:48:06 pm
Like I said awhile ago on a diff thread: MoS, I know where you're coming from...but the predominant ways she was written during the time we speak of was that she DID ride or die for Wakanda. RH and YOST set the bar, there. In fact? The whole point of Yost's miniseries WORLDS APART was that STORM is a whole person who can be simultaneously Queen of Wakanda AND an X-Men in precisely the same way that TChalla could be King of Wakanda AND an Avenger AND an Illuminati member. [/b]


     (http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/f/f5/X-Men_Worlds_Apart_Vol_1_3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090110011053)



To propose otherwise is not only BS, it's racist. Thor could be Prince of Asgard AND an Avenger AND a solo hero in the MU. Namor? Prince of the Blood. Ruler of Atlantis. Anti-hero. Magneto. Doom. Black Bolt. Medusa. Maximus. Etc etc etc.Notice how there is zero peep about these worthies all with the multitasking multiple roles. But? Notice how all dem foolz are WHITE, though? The moment some seriously melanated folks try this, though? Problems.

And. Both YOST and RH wrote that Storm won the majority of Wakandans over. Sooo...at one point you were right. The grand ole Wakandan xenophobia was lookin at STORM like:


(https://media.giphy.com/media/lxlIIlw5rnxUk/giphy.gif)


But after THE PANTHER GOD sent a pride of Panthers to come to Ororo and kneel before her? The Wakandans were like:


(https://media.giphy.com/media/ZOOzN2DyE0r2o/giphy.gif)



As well they should be. TPG don't play that. She's not big in the "forgiveness" department.

So let's not give these haters a Pass...unless it's straight to Gitcha A$$ Kicked Land.
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Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Beware Of Geek on May 06, 2017, 06:14:41 am
Valykrie originally was trapped within the body of Barbara (Something).  While Barbara was in her body.  They could always revisit that event, except now she has changed bodies with a Wakandan woman.  Or just introduce a new one; after all Valykrie is a position, not a name

Technically, we have Valkyrie (Brunnhilde, former Defender and technically a living spell of some sort), and the Valkyries, the order of warrior maidens to which she belongs.  It's unclear which the character in the Thor movie is, but I note that there is precedent for non-Caucasian Valkyries, with Danielle Moonstar.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on May 13, 2019, 12:15:38 pm
Y'all really thought otherwise?

(https://s016.radikal.ru/i335/1505/7d/aab16ca22f7f.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucd3cB9r4Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucd3cB9r4Q)
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on May 13, 2019, 09:08:40 pm
Y'all really thought otherwise?

(https://s016.radikal.ru/i335/1505/7d/aab16ca22f7f.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucd3cB9r4Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucd3cB9r4Q)



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "GOT!!! THE!!! DRAWS!!" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Missed you SO MUCH, Maxine.
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on May 16, 2019, 05:58:27 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "GOT!!! THE!!! DRAWS!!" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


T'Challa be like...
(http://i63.tinypic.com/2s8fmtc.jpg)
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on May 16, 2019, 06:10:20 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "GOT!!! THE!!! DRAWS!!" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


T'Challa be like...
([url]http://i63.tinypic.com/2s8fmtc.jpg[/url])



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Man, I miss The Martin Lawrence show, and other '90's shows...
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: JRCarter on May 16, 2019, 01:57:23 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "GOT!!! THE!!! DRAWS!!" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA



(https://media1.tenor.com/images/cf70f754e0d89feaa123c9a9a2232357/tenor.gif?itemid=6169906)
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on May 16, 2019, 05:19:21 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "GOT!!! THE!!! DRAWS!!" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA



(https://media1.tenor.com/images/cf70f754e0d89feaa123c9a9a2232357/tenor.gif?itemid=6169906)


hahahahahahahahahaha!! you KNOW this, maaaannnn!!!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/BX4kWyJc37bcQ/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mad Coco G on May 16, 2019, 10:54:52 pm
Y'all really thought otherwise?

(https://s016.radikal.ru/i335/1505/7d/aab16ca22f7f.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucd3cB9r4Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucd3cB9r4Q)


I almost spat out my soda from laughing
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on May 17, 2019, 03:11:39 am
Y'all really thought otherwise?

(https://s016.radikal.ru/i335/1505/7d/aab16ca22f7f.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucd3cB9r4Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucd3cB9r4Q)


I almost spat out my soda from laughing

Whassup Mad coco G! I don't think I've ever seen you post here before, even though you have 470+ posts. You clearly have good taste, because you got your laugh on like the rest of us. Post more often?
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on May 17, 2019, 11:10:26 am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "GOT!!! THE!!! DRAWS!!" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA



(https://media1.tenor.com/images/cf70f754e0d89feaa123c9a9a2232357/tenor.gif?itemid=6169906)

We're in finals week where I teach, and I just told one of the 8th graders' homeroom teachers that the only thing he was about to pass in my class are the peas (liked we used to do).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eimFR6au9O0&feature=youtu.be&t=47&fbclid=IwAR1xnmxpVXrjNMJV5R0e2t9YIPvp4I_wGSrpcA9HfnzvdBxrYaYSaLtQcp0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eimFR6au9O0&feature=youtu.be&t=47&fbclid=IwAR1xnmxpVXrjNMJV5R0e2t9YIPvp4I_wGSrpcA9HfnzvdBxrYaYSaLtQcp0)
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: Mad Coco G on May 17, 2019, 03:07:05 pm
Y'all really thought otherwise?

(https://s016.radikal.ru/i335/1505/7d/aab16ca22f7f.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucd3cB9r4Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucd3cB9r4Q)


I almost spat out my soda from laughing

Whassup Mad coco G! I don't think I've ever seen you post here before, even though you have 470+ posts. You clearly have good taste, because you got your laugh on like the rest of us. Post more often?


I should be back to posting more since life has calmed down for a bit, the wife is a grade school teacher and changed schools, in-laws lost their house in a fire, I got promoted and debating on going to grad school.

Adulting is for the birds
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on May 20, 2019, 05:21:52 pm
Y'all really thought otherwise?

(https://s016.radikal.ru/i335/1505/7d/aab16ca22f7f.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucd3cB9r4Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucd3cB9r4Q)


I almost spat out my soda from laughing

Whassup Mad coco G! I don't think I've ever seen you post here before, even though you have 470+ posts. You clearly have good taste, because you got your laugh on like the rest of us. Post more often?


I should be back to posting more since life has calmed down for a bit, the wife is a grade school teacher and changed schools, in-laws lost their house in a fire, I got promoted and debating on going to grad school.

Adulting is for the birds

That perspective up there? And the unique wording? Is dope. I hope that things continue to get better for you, your family,and all of us, my brutha. My condolences to your in-laws, props on the promotion and go to grad school now while you can. The longer you wait? The less possible it becomes
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: JRCarter on May 21, 2019, 04:24:17 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERUCfyBz1Hc# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERUCfyBz1Hc#)
Title: Re: Are we getting Ororo and T'challa back together?
Post by: supreme illuminati on May 21, 2019, 05:24:34 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERUCfyBz1Hc# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERUCfyBz1Hc#)


Yo, Alexandra Shipp...the far too lightskinned Ororo...had a whole nutha song to sing in 2016 about whether Storm and BP should hook up. Her exact words were:

"In 2006, Storm and T'Challa were married before getting divorced during the events of the Avengers vs. X-Men event in 2012. So there's plenty of connective tissue there and the Wakanda that the Black Panther movie sets up seems tailor-made for Storm. Alexandra Shipp, who plays Storm in X-Men: Apocalypse, actually wants such a movie to happen, as she expressed in 2016. She's even got a pitch for it.


 
"I want that movie so bad. I've got a pitch, I'm like coming up with a vision board, I want this movie to happen. Honestly it doesn't have to be me - if Chadwick [Boseman] was like 'you know what, I really want to do this with Halle [Berry]' I'd be like yo, that's fine at least make the movie."

So, how does Chadwick Boseman feel about all of this? As we know, his character T'Challa is in a relationship with Lupita Nyong'o's Nakia. When asked about bringing Storm into Black Panther 2 in a recent interview, the actor said, "Are you trying to break up my relationship with Nakia? It sounds like that's what you're doing right now." Nyong'o was similarly defensive when expressing her feelings about the idea in the same interview.


https://movieweb.com/black-panther-2-storm-x-men-crossover-mcu/ (https://movieweb.com/black-panther-2-storm-x-men-crossover-mcu/)


Now that she's about to lose the role after making a good payday in X-Men Dark Phoenix [ which I probably won't watch ]? She's on haterade status? Stop the static, Ma.