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Title: The Punisher tv series
Post by: True Father Sankofa on November 27, 2017, 02:10:58 am
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Great cast, great acting, great story. Wow! My fav Marvel Netflix series. So many good moments, loved the Wu Tang shirt scene and especially the voice of reason Curtis who got Frank to face his insecurities at the end (although when he let that crazy white boy get the best of him and whooped him with his own leg was a low point, lol)

"Nobody wants to be themselves anymore. The internet, social media, goddamn talent shows for assholes... Everybody wants to be someone else. Nobody is happy just to look at themselves in the mirror, see themselves. Then it means they don't have to be responsible either"
Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: CvilleWakandan on November 27, 2017, 07:15:54 am
I liked it. Last fight was crazy.
Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: Emperorjones on November 27, 2017, 06:43:40 pm
Just finished it. I liked it a lot. I agree with what TF said about Curtis. They didn't need to do that. But overall a very good installment. Marvel television gets villains a whole lot better than the films do.
Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: BlackRodimus on November 28, 2017, 06:02:19 pm
My favorite out of all the Netflix shows. Also the most consistent, villain wise, since Daredevil's first season (never took to Killgrave on Jessica Jones). I'm not only curious about season 2, but if Punisher's characters or even Punisher himself will be sprinkled throughout the next seasons of each Netflix show.

Calling it now: Curtis and Misty
Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: True Father Sankofa on December 03, 2017, 07:09:39 pm
I liked it. Last fight was crazy.

oh man, yes it was
Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: True Father Sankofa on December 03, 2017, 07:10:14 pm
Just finished it. I liked it a lot. I agree with what TF said about Curtis. They didn't need to do that. But overall a very good installment. Marvel television gets villains a whole lot better than the films do.

one word........Kingpin
Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: True Father Sankofa on December 03, 2017, 07:11:30 pm
Calling it now: Curtis and Misty

Why? Cause they both got missing limbs? Lol
Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: MindofShadow on December 13, 2017, 05:04:33 am
This was really, really, really, really good. And I say that a a Punisher lover (hes in my top 5 fav characters and Ennis stuff is some of the best comics ever IMO).

I know a lot of Punisher fanatics didn't love it because Frank was more human than Jason Vorhees but it worked because when that flip switched... he was classic Punisher. Humanizing him just a touch worked. Everything was in character for him IMO. some punisher fans also hate the fact he was almost Jason Bourne esque aka dealing with spooks and CIA and not gangsters but its happened in the comics before and I think 13 issues of frank mowing down mobsters would have been a bit... boring.

It avoided the "omg this is way too long" syndrome that a lot of other netflix shows had because, for once, all the supporting characters were interesting and well acted. Even Page, who I generally hated in Daredevil, was useful here. There was no "annoying sister from JJ" or "froggy stfu and die" or everyting about iron fist lol or others

The only time I was ever bored was when they focused on the crazy kid a touch too long sometimes. I think he was needed to compare and contrast that kid to Frank but, did feel a bit overlong at times. I think I would have rather sacrificed some of that and gotten more into Curtis background or more into Frank in the Marines or more into even just watching Frank murder all the cartels some more lol. But, nitpicking really.

Punisher just fits in this format. Beranthal was great. I still think Ray Stevenson in War Zone is the most comic accurate Punisher but Beranthal is a much better frank castle IMO.

Castle's arc from DDS2 through this show is the best story in the Netflix Marvel world so far. and im pissed he didn't at least get one episode to show up in Defenders and murder ninjas lol. It would have been perfect for him to show up in the restaurant scene, mow down a town of ninjas, say "thats twice now Red" and just leave lol.

anywho, if I had to rank the shows now, i'd prolly go

Punisher
DDS1
Cage
Defenders
DDS2
Jessica Jones (kilgrave stuff was great, everything else was terrible)
Iron Fist (this show has no redeeming qualities)
Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: CvilleWakandan on December 13, 2017, 07:02:19 am
I said the same thing about JJ. David Tennants acting was the best thing about the show. Check out his other show. Broadchurch.
Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: MindofShadow on December 13, 2017, 07:26:09 am
I said the same thing about JJ. David Tennants acting was the best thing about the show. Check out his other show. Broadchurch.

yeah he was great.

anytime Killgrave was on screen it was good. JJvKilgrave, KilgravevLuke, Kilgrave v randoms... good.

and JJ and Luke stuff was fine.

the rest of the show was god damn awful. nuke, trish, black dude, f*cking sister... awful awful awful awful awful
Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: CvilleWakandan on December 19, 2017, 08:29:52 am
I'm reading Punisher Max series from 2013 now. Hoping season two is like that.
Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: MindofShadow on December 19, 2017, 08:39:24 am
I'm reading Punisher Max series from 2013 now. Hoping season two is like that.

is that ennis or Aaron, I can't remember


Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: Emperorjones on December 19, 2017, 08:47:24 am
I'm assuming it's the Aaron PunisherMAX series but I'm curious too. I liked the first arc of that Aaron series, but then I thought it fell off.

How I rank the Marvel Netflix series:

Luke Cage
Jessica Jones
Punisher
Daredevil
Defenders
Iron Fist
Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: CvilleWakandan on December 19, 2017, 08:57:58 am
I'm reading Punisher Max series from 2013 now. Hoping season two is like that.

is that ennis or Aaron, I can't remember

It is Ennis. I got the Complete Collection Vol. 1
Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: MindofShadow on December 19, 2017, 09:00:55 am
I'm reading Punisher Max series from 2013 now. Hoping season two is like that.

is that ennis or Aaron, I can't remember

It is Ennis. I got the Complete Collection Vol. 1

Ennis whole work with Punisher is just epic IMO.

Apparently his other MAX stuff with Fury and Barracuda is great too.

IF you liked Born, i would check out the current mini out by Ennis, The Punisher: The Platoon. It is the prequel to Born.
Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: Emperorjones on December 19, 2017, 09:41:19 am
I'm reading Punisher Max series from 2013 now. Hoping season two is like that.

is that ennis or Aaron, I can't remember

It is Ennis. I got the Complete Collection Vol. 1


Nice. Ennis's Punisher Max, was pretty good from what I read of it. It's better than a lot Aaron's, and had better artwork too. But I do recommend Aaron's PunisherMAX "Kingpin" arc. That one was up there with the Ennis stuff IMO.
Title: Re: The Punisher tv series
Post by: Kimoyo on January 01, 2018, 04:34:43 pm
This was really, really, really, really good. And I say that a a Punisher lover (hes in my top 5 fav characters and Ennis stuff is some of the best comics ever IMO).

I know a lot of Punisher fanatics didn't love it because Frank was more human than Jason Vorhees but it worked because when that flip switched... he was classic Punisher. Humanizing him just a touch worked. Everything was in character for him IMO. some punisher fans also hate the fact he was almost Jason Bourne esque aka dealing with spooks and CIA and not gangsters but its happened in the comics before and I think 13 issues of frank mowing down mobsters would have been a bit... boring.

It avoided the "omg this is way too long" syndrome that a lot of other netflix shows had because, for once, all the supporting characters were interesting and well acted. Even Page, who I generally hated in Daredevil, was useful here. There was no "annoying sister from JJ" or "froggy stfu and die" or everyting about iron fist lol or others

The only time I was ever bored was when they focused on the crazy kid a touch too long sometimes. I think he was needed to compare and contrast that kid to Frank but, did feel a bit overlong at times. I think I would have rather sacrificed some of that and gotten more into Curtis background or more into Frank in the Marines or more into even just watching Frank murder all the cartels some more lol. But, nitpicking really.

Punisher just fits in this format. Beranthal was great. I still think Ray Stevenson in War Zone is the most comic accurate Punisher but Beranthal is a much better frank castle IMO.

Just finished S1.  It was equal parts brutal and brilliant!  When you flipped Castle's switch....damn!  Not Bourne like at all IMO.  He took damage and just plowed through to dish it back out like walking blunt force trauma.  The definition of a masher!  The fight with the CIA boss was absolutely savage!  And the fight with Jigsaw at the end...wow!

I thought the writers did a compelling job of providing subtle and not so subtle examples of actions/behaviors Frank may have exhibited through the actions/behaviors of other characters like Curtis, Billy, the Wilson kid, Madani, Micro and even Micro's boy.  This gave Frank ample opportunity through his interactions with theses characters to reflect on and evaluate his own actions, developing as a character.

Really well thought out and executed, IMO, with the exception of one fairly big flaw.  Castle would have never set up Billy/Jigsaw for a sniper kill in Curtis' apartment.  He would not have needlessly endangered Curtis and he definitely would have wanted to look Billy in the eye when he took him out!  The story also had a decidedly anti-gun control bent which I personally found a bit off-putting.

Nonetheless, very good take on the Punisher and Berenthal was amazing as Castle!

Peace,

Mont