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Title: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on January 26, 2018, 07:47:45 am
When the embargo lifts Monday on twitter reviews or whatever, there is likely going to be some leaks.

Some of us embrace the leaks and that is fine.

But, we should probably allow the "official" movie thread to be spoiler free so we don't ruin someones experience on accident.

And use this thread for any upcoming spoilery reviews, 4chan leaks, new tv spots, ect.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on January 26, 2018, 08:27:44 am
Good idea. I'm probably going to be all up on. This thread, I am really hoping to see the movie but my wife's due date for our second son is Feb 13.. cutting it close, of our baby is born before BP drops I will have a long wait before I can catch the movie.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on January 26, 2018, 08:36:33 am
Good idea. I'm probably going to be all up on. This thread, I am really hoping to see the movie but my wife's due date for our second son is Feb 13.. cutting it close, of our baby is born before BP drops I will have a long wait before I can catch the movie.

You might need to take a trip to get diapers... that lasts 3 hours long...
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on January 26, 2018, 08:58:45 am
Producer Nate Moore

Quote
"I think it’s inherently linked because of the Civil War connections and because of the Ultron connections with Klaue. So there are strings that we are playing with. But again, much like Doctor Strange, we felt this had enough storytelling that it could stand alone beyond those things. We wanted to give Ryan the freedom to tell a story that wasn’t relying on other things that were happening in the MCU. Now that doesn’t mean what happens in the film won’t have ripples in the MCU but the film itself isn’t relying on other plot points in the MCU."
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ture on January 26, 2018, 09:01:04 am
Good idea. I'm probably going to be all up on. This thread, I am really hoping to see the movie but my wife's due date for our second son is Feb 13.. cutting it close, of our baby is born before BP drops I will have a long wait before I can catch the movie.

You might need to take a trip to get diapers... that lasts 3 hours long...

Either that or we smuggle him a high def bootleg.

Congratulations to you and your wife Ezyo. Your son will be blessed by Bast as he will be born under the sign of the Black Panther.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on January 26, 2018, 10:12:03 am
I'm hoping he decides to chill for just a few more days, so we can catch the movie, my wife knows how important this movie is to me and so I'm hoping he will Wait till at least Saturday to be born. Because I am watching this movie on the day it comes out for sure, if bast willing.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on January 26, 2018, 10:23:06 am
I'm hoping he decides to chill for just a few more days, so we can catch the movie, my wife knows how important this movie is to me and so I'm hoping he will Wait till at least Saturday to be born. Because I am watching this movie on the day it comes out for sure, if bast willing.

Better put that phone on air plane mode Thursday night lololol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on January 26, 2018, 11:08:37 am
I'm hoping he decides to chill for just a few more days, so we can catch the movie, my wife knows how important this movie is to me and so I'm hoping he will Wait till at least Saturday to be born. Because I am watching this movie on the day it comes out for sure, if bast willing.

Better put that phone on air plane mode Thursday night lololol

"Sorry honey I had no bars, I gotta get on that Kimoyo net"
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on January 29, 2018, 09:41:15 pm
Almost a full action scene. Get an idea of fight choreography.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u0SBlLWNe5s&time_continue=63
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on January 30, 2018, 02:39:23 am
Yeah, I definitely get a JAmes Bond vibe with this one.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on January 30, 2018, 04:46:32 am
I don't personally believe these spoilers but this is what this thread is for.

Apparently this is the "stinger" spoilers... sound way too much for teasers though but whatever. Also comes from a rather racist part of the internet so whatever. Take with large grain of salt. A lot of this doesn't add up at all.



Ending: Black Panther is ruling over a land at peace.

Stinger1:
*Dr. Strange teleports into Wakanda Throne Room.
Strange: "Your Highness! He is HERE!"

Stinger2:
Shot in a cockpit of a small fighter space-ship.
Pilot: We have visuals on Sanctuary 2.
Shot of small Wakandan space fleet approaching Sanctuary 2.
Audio in many languages repeating: "You have entered sovereign Terran space without authorization, please stand down and prepare for inspection. "

Stinger3: Shot of mid-battle between Sanctuary 2 and small Wakanda space fleet. It's like fly's swarming a cow. Sanctuary 2 is taking no real damage at all as it fires on the small Wakandian fighters. Then at once, it emits some kind of energy pulse and destroys them all.

Stinger4: Frantic Wakandan palace. Strange, Panther, and some guards, making there way to Bucky cyro-storage.
Panther while walking: "Signal the allies, prepare the full Terran arsenal, prep the winter solider for release, summon captain Rogers,...".

Stinger5-8: There are two scenes that we keep flipping between. 1) Is Bucky being thawed out with Strange, Captain, and Panther, being there. 2) Is the moon. Eventually it is show that the Moon has pretty big base on it. However, instead of just the small weak Wakandia fighter-ships, we see many different types of space-ships, including Heavy Battle Cruisers being prepped and taking off (forming a fleet). There are ships with different Flags in them too (USA, RUSSIA, CHINA, FRANCE, ...etc). There are also a few Kree ships.

Stinger9: We see Captain Marvel on one of the Heavy Kree Battle Cruisers in the Terran Fleet. She stands confidently on the bridge as they all approach Sanctuary 2. Captain of ship in sitting in a chair (like star trek). Captain of ship: "Marvel, time to show'em how you got your name". Marvel blasts off into the bridge ceiling (which just has a force field that she passed through). She is flying outside the space ship (no suits or breather), she circles around it a couple of times (long shot). Then she approached the bridge from the outside and smiles at the Captain of the ship. Then she looks at Sanctuary 2, cocks her first back, and does this "punch pose" thing, as all the Terran fleet starts firing. *Fade to Black

CAPTAIN MARVEL WILL RETURN IN AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR

Stan Lee Cameo:


Also, Stan Lee is a guard at the museum.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Battle on January 30, 2018, 05:12:03 am
Good idea. I'm probably going to be all up on. This thread, I am really hoping to see the movie but my wife's due date for our second son is Feb 13.. cutting it close, of our baby is born before BP drops I will have a long wait before I can catch the movie.



An Aquarius! :)

The Waterbearer; someone who retains information and passes it on.

I believe your child will be the third known HEF baby next to Mr. Hudlin and DJ Mastrmynd.

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Emperorjones on January 30, 2018, 07:08:37 am
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/black-panther-wesley-snipes-reveals-untold-story-behind-90s-film-1078868 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/black-panther-wesley-snipes-reveals-untold-story-behind-90s-film-1078868)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on January 30, 2018, 09:03:56 am
Good idea. I'm probably going to be all up on. This thread, I am really hoping to see the movie but my wife's due date for our second son is Feb 13.. cutting it close, of our baby is born before BP drops I will have a long wait before I can catch the movie.



An Aquarius! :)

The Waterbearer; someone who retains information and passes it on.

I believe your child will be the third known HEF baby next to Mr. Hudlin and DJ Mastrmynd.

In happy for my son to be born for sure, and I'll patiently wait too, but if he is born a day after the movie drops I wouldn't complain lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on January 30, 2018, 06:05:58 pm
Courtesy of Kingnomarch from CBR:

Quote from: KingNomarch;3415417
Christopher Priest’s review of the movie.

Quote
Panther: First Look (No Spoilers)

Well, my date and I got stuck in LA traffic and almost missed it. But that story is for another time.

Despite toiling under the now very tired superhero movie formula (Act Three: The Hero Faces Off Against His Doppelganger!) director Ryan Coogler manages to pull off a few surprises– something I honestly did not think possible. This is not my Black Panther– it is a young king who is still learning and thus still growing and thus capable of being surprised in ways my T’Challa never could. Michael B. Jordan’s more linear and bombastic villain’s hip hop soundtrack tends to drown out Chadwick Boseman’s far more nuanced, surgical prince-who-would-be-king, so you’re likely to read lots of praises or complaints about Jordan “stealing” this movie. The actual thieves are the women– Letitia Wright, Danai Gurira, and Lupita Nyong’o, who are given the most dynamic of the action scenes and who, along with an absolutely glorious Angela Bassett, solve all of the plot’s problems (including rescuing T’Challa)–which is both good and bad. But Jordan’s Killmonger is kind of an idiot. He is an idiot who has a legitimate case– real complaints and concerns about Wakandan tradition along with a thirst for simple revenge (revenge always works in plots)– but make no mistake about it: movie Killmonger is an idiot–something he was not in my comics.

While taking absolutely nothing away from Stan Lee, who was one of the people who taught me this biz, or Jack “King” Kirby, I was disappointed and a little disturbed by one thing. I would guess at least 80% of the characters up on that screen were created by Don McGregor, who was in attendance at last night’s premiere. Forget me or Reginald Hudlin or even Ta-Nehisi Coates (who sat with us), the vast and rich infrastructure of this film was a product of years of hard investment by Don, who was paid some paltry page rate. Don built the world of Wakanda, literally, maps of the place and extensive biographies and character sketches. He deserved much more than to be buried in a “Special Thanks” paragraph in the closing credits. Stan wrote, to my knowledge, only one Black Panther story, and Jack jettisoned virtually everything Don did when he did his own run on the book. Black Panther the movie is Don McGregor’s world brought to glorious life. I’d have liked him to have a larger credit for it (and better seats than waaaaay in the back with the rest of us peons).

There are at least four audiences for this film: Black Panther comic book fans, general comic book fans, African American general audiences and general audiences. This film offers high octane entertainment to all of these groups, but it will be the African American general audiences–who neither know nor care who I am–who will struggle the hardest to make it through the first act of this film without tearing up. The film’s glorious fairy tale of a highly advanced African civilization is enough to drop even the most cynical among us to our knees. A love letter to African Americans, the first half hour of this film had me wiping away tears at the sheer beauty of a people–my people–brought to glorious and amazing life in ways I never could on a static comic book page. Here, Black Panther finally had a soundtrack, and it is the soundtrack of my ancestors, my homeland. It was emotionally overwhelming and something I’d not quite prepared myself for.

There are many laugh out loud moments in the film but almost none of them come from Martin Freeman’s Everett K. Ross. Freeman does the best he can, often eliciting big laughs with simple body language and facial expressions–the mark of a master thespian. But the film gives Ross little to do and almost no lines, which will disappoint fans of my run while the other audiences will simply wonder what he was doing there in the first place.

Unfortunately, by either decree or simple fate, and despite my pleadings with the decision makers, Black Panther nonetheless sticks to formula. Are we really not capable of creating a film that resolves its core conflicts without the predictable big fight at the end? The best parts of the film–and there are many–are the places where Coogler is allowed to vary from this formula or, even better, practice a kind of slight of hand where he doesn’t really fool me so much as he waves a hand puppet, “Hey! Look over here!” distracting me long enough that when the film snaps back to formula I am actually surprised where I, a grizzled old writer, really shouldn’t have been.

All of the performances–including Freeman’s–are near-flawless. These are brilliant actors chewing scenery through each and every frame of this film. They all seem to know they are working on a landmark film–likely the biggest-budget blockbuster film with a mostly black cast, and every single actor here rises to the occasion.

While I’d have wished for much more originality in the final act of the film, I do not hold Mr. Coogler responsible for not reinventing the wheel. But I _am_ tired of watching the same movie over and over and over and over and over– And Then They Fight! I like even less the lesson these films repeatedly teach our children: conflict resolution through violence.

Having said that, I am overwhelmed by a sense of relief that the movie far exceeds my fears about what this thing might have been. It is an amazing spectacle with a rich, thick, multi-layered, often conflicted and expertly nuanced pseudo-Hamlet at the center–a brilliant performance that is bound to be overrun by Jordan’s more flamboyant, focused and bombastic challenger. My self-interest in the success of this film notwithstanding, I am confident the film will be a huge hit with African American audiences and certainly with comic book (and comic book film) fans, leaving only Priest-specific Black Panther fans a bit disappointed, and, of course, the Donald Trump crowd who will hate it even as they buy their ticket.



http://lamerciepark.com/wp/?p=651#more-651 (http://lamerciepark.com/wp/?p=651#more-651)



I'll reserve full judgment till I see the movie. Just like CW I felt MCU Panther is more Akin to Hudlin's more fiery Panther, less 2 steps ahead, and more of a younger in your face handling business while still prepping, just not the "Holy crap wtf just happened?" Honestly Priest was pretty critical of CW debut of people don't remember, he was upset that the movie didn't turn into T'Challa figuring out the real villain first or nearly threaten ww3 with America. Overall I think the movie is going to give everyone shine, not just the title Character and throwing everyone else to the wayside. Hopefully Tchalla is shown as how we expect him to be and not like TNCs no one man delegating all his feats to the supporting cast.

I also don't know how he can say 80% of the people on screen are done Characters when really W'kabi and kilmonger are the only ones. Unless he is talking about tribes. In which case I don't know if that counts. But if he thinks McGregor Should of gotten more credit that fine too. Rather him then Coates. But ultimately I'll take his critic with a grain of salt just given his CW reaction
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on January 30, 2018, 06:09:35 pm
Responding to Priest review. Ezyo is right, if you read his interviews, things tend not to add up their as well. Tends to overstate.

As far as feats and rescuing, we see the car flip, the group force push, and he rescues Nakia from Killmonger seemingly striking the finishing blow. Obviously they could recut, but its there. lol

Pure speculation, but I would guess that after the final fight T'calla is in one of those both going to die situations and someone help him escape. Which is typical for most movies.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on January 30, 2018, 06:26:27 pm
Yeah, no offense to Priest but he isn't the best to go off of for critique of the movie. If it ain't his Version 3 steps ahead, he ain't happy. That said he still gave praise from the get go rather then later on so there is that lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on January 30, 2018, 06:34:16 pm
Only one line bothers me

Spoiler (click to reveal)
Including rescuing tchalla


But, priest is very "get off my lawn" at times and he didn't like CW at all so.... him having any praise at all is likely a goood thing lol

I mean... i wanna see fights so.... sign me up lol

And priests really smart killmonger tried to eat tge HSH like an apple so.....

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on January 30, 2018, 06:43:32 pm
Only one line bothers me

Spoiler (click to reveal)
Including rescuing tchalla


But, priest is very "get off my lawn" at times and he didn't like CW at all so.... him having any praise at all is likely a goood thing lol

I mean... i wanna see fights so.... sign me up lol

And priests really smart killmonger tried to eat tge HSH like an apple so.....

Yeah I'm curious about that line as well.
Spoiler (click to reveal)
Maybe that has to do with Erik and T'Challa fighting as warrior falls? Maybe Tchalla loses or falls off or something?

Honestly I never saw Erik as a genius. He was smart in an educated sort of way, and not brawn over brains like say  M'Baku. More so Erik is charismatic and a smooth talker and can fight.. [/size][/b]
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on January 30, 2018, 06:54:02 pm
My theory from the very beginning is nakia sacrifices herself to stop killmonger but they never find the bodies
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on January 30, 2018, 06:55:24 pm
My theory from the very beginning is nakia sacrifices herself to stop killmonger but they never find the bodies

Which would be acceptable. That is not rescuing, that is sacrificing yourself for someone you love.

Especially with the standing Killmonger rule that Tchalla hasn't beaten him. Except in that DD you recommended.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on January 30, 2018, 06:57:12 pm
The lack of Ross sounds extremely promising..
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on January 30, 2018, 07:00:00 pm
Only one line bothers me

Spoiler (click to reveal)
Including rescuing tchalla


But, priest is very "get off my lawn" at times and he didn't like CW at all so.... him having any praise at all is likely a goood thing lol

I mean... i wanna see fights so.... sign me up lol

And priests really smart killmonger tried to eat tge HSH like an apple so.....

Yeah I'm curious about that line as well.
Spoiler (click to reveal)
Maybe that has to do with Erik and T'Challa fighting as warrior falls? Maybe Tchalla loses or falls off or something?

Honestly I never saw Erik as a genius. He was smart in an educated sort of way, and not brawn over brains like say  M'Baku. More so Erik is charismatic and a smooth talker and can fight.. [/size][/b]

Movie or comic version of KM?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on January 30, 2018, 07:15:20 pm
My theory from the very beginning is nakia sacrifices herself to stop killmonger but they never find the bodies

Which would be acceptable. That is not rescuing, that is sacrificing yourself for someone you love.

Especially with the standing Killmonger rule that Tchalla hasn't beaten him. Except in that DD you recommended.

Its also not unheard of in the mcu

- pepper saves the day in IM
- stark needs Rhodey to win in IM2
- pepper saves the day agsin in IM3
- steve suicided himself in cap and cap 2 lol
- thor needed selvigs gadget in thor 2
- thor needed surtur in thor 3

Plus minor examples in dr strange for instsnce

All depends on how its handled
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on January 30, 2018, 07:30:20 pm
The lack of Ross sounds extremely promising..

I like comic Ross

But anyone expecting him to have a large part in this movie were delusional lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on January 30, 2018, 09:32:40 pm
Only one line bothers me

Spoiler (click to reveal)
Including rescuing tchalla


But, priest is very "get off my lawn" at times and he didn't like CW at all so.... him having any praise at all is likely a goood thing lol

I mean... i wanna see fights so.... sign me up lol

And priests really smart killmonger tried to eat tge HSH like an apple so.....

Yeah I'm curious about that line as well.
Spoiler (click to reveal)
Maybe that has to do with Erik and T'Challa fighting as warrior falls? Maybe Tchalla loses or falls off or something?

Honestly I never saw Erik as a genius. He was smart in an educated sort of way, and not brawn over brains like say  M'Baku. More so Erik is charismatic and a smooth talker and can fight.. [/size][/b]

Movie or comic version of KM?

Priest said Creedmongers is an idiot. I never saw kilmonger in comics as a genius. He was educated but it's not like he was some super genius like Tchalla. He was charismatic and fight like a champ
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on January 30, 2018, 09:42:55 pm
The lack of Ross sounds extremely promising..

I like comic Ross

But anyone expecting him to have a large part in this movie were delusional lol

Priest seemed to think fans of his series would ben sorely disappointed that he didn't do much. Honestly Ross is fine I like him but he isn't NEEDED at all. If he didn't appear on the movie at all I wouldn't care at all. And honestly i don't think anyone will be disappointed that MCU Tchalla isn't just like Priest Panther 100% because MCU Panther has a James Bond swagger seen in Hudlins version. Priests version is a Movie 3 type. And still would be. Hard to pull off without making him a guest in the story. And we have seen what that can do to Characters *cough* Blade Trinity *Cough* do careful what someone wishes for.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on January 31, 2018, 05:29:57 am
I am going to put these in spoiler tags just in case

basically the plot of the movie in short form. if you have been paying attention to trailers most of this isn't TOO spoilery but there are a few things

Spoiler (click to reveal)
>T'Challa goes back to Wakanda after Civil War to become king.

>He wants to open the borders, some Wakandans aren't down for it.

>Lupita Nyong'o is T'Challa's girlfriend and a spy. She locates Klaue in Korea trying to sell Vibranium.

>T'Challa and the bald Dora head there and run into Everett Ross.

>Big casino shootout, T'Challa catches Klaw and surrenders him to Ross.

>Killmonger breaks Klaw out and recruits his help to seize the throne of Wakanda.

>Killmonger allows himself to be capture and is brought before T'Challa. He reveals he's T'Challa's brother and wants the throne. The anti-T'Challa Wakandans back him up. T'Challa and Killmonger fight for the throne, but Killmonger pulls some underhanded bullsh*t to win.

>T'Challa is presumed dead, but survives and teams up with Ross and his family to stop Killmonger from declaring war on the entire planet. Killmonger goes back on whatever deal he had with Klaue and apparently kills him.

>T'Challa visits Necropolis and confers with the spirits of the previous Black Panthers for advice.

>T'Challa convinces Man-Ape to help him. T'Challa and his followers battle Killmonger and his followers in the Vibranium mines. Killmonger has created his own Panther suit. Big battle, Killmonger gets beaten.

>T'Challa regains the throne and goes through with revealing Wakanda to the world.

>Necropolis turns out to be because the Soul Stone is inside the Vibranium meteor that fuels Wakanda.

>Tease that Klaw is alive in sound form.

few other things..


Spoiler (click to reveal)
Sterling K. Brown is playing T'Challa's college professor and he's only in one scene flashing back to T'Challa's education in America.

Killmonger is T'Challa's half-brother and a tragic villain.

The final battle takes place in the Vibranium mines.

T'Challa is betrayed by his best friend played by the GET OUT guy. He reluctantly sides with Killmonger when T'Challa decides to step into the spotlight.

Man-Ape is the leader of an anti-technology, anti-Vibranium tribe that opposes T'Challa, but is not a villain. When Killmonger takes over and wants to plunge all of Wakanda in a needless war against the entire world, Man-Ape teams up with T'Challa to stop him.

No Bucky.

No Avengers cameos.

A lot of stuff I like from this...

Spoiler (click to reveal)
- killmonger cheating to win... T'challa is definitely going over warrior falls lol

- killmonger killing klaue. I asked for that from the beginning!!


one thing I dont like...

Spoiler (click to reveal)
- half brother thing. I guess it gives killmonger the right to the throne but eh
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on January 31, 2018, 06:27:29 am
I am going to put these in spoiler tags just in case

basically the plot of the movie in short form. if you have been paying attention to trailers most of this isn't TOO spoilery but there are a few things

Spoiler (click to reveal)
>T'Challa goes back to Wakanda after Civil War to become king.

>He wants to open the borders, some Wakandans aren't down for it.

>Lupita Nyong'o is T'Challa's girlfriend and a spy. She locates Klaue in Korea trying to sell Vibranium.

>T'Challa and the bald Dora head there and run into Everett Ross.

>Big casino shootout, T'Challa catches Klaw and surrenders him to Ross.

>Killmonger breaks Klaw out and recruits his help to seize the throne of Wakanda.

>Killmonger allows himself to be capture and is brought before T'Challa. He reveals he's T'Challa's brother and wants the throne. The anti-T'Challa Wakandans back him up. T'Challa and Killmonger fight for the throne, but Killmonger pulls some underhanded bullsh*t to win.

>T'Challa is presumed dead, but survives and teams up with Ross and his family to stop Killmonger from declaring war on the entire planet. Killmonger goes back on whatever deal he had with Klaue and apparently kills him.

>T'Challa visits Necropolis and confers with the spirits of the previous Black Panthers for advice.

>T'Challa convinces Man-Ape to help him. T'Challa and his followers battle Killmonger and his followers in the Vibranium mines. Killmonger has created his own Panther suit. Big battle, Killmonger gets beaten.

>T'Challa regains the throne and goes through with revealing Wakanda to the world.

>Necropolis turns out to be because the Soul Stone is inside the Vibranium meteor that fuels Wakanda.

>Tease that Klaw is alive in sound form.

few other things..


Spoiler (click to reveal)
Sterling K. Brown is playing T'Challa's college professor and he's only in one scene flashing back to T'Challa's education in America.

Killmonger is T'Challa's half-brother and a tragic villain.

The final battle takes place in the Vibranium mines.

T'Challa is betrayed by his best friend played by the GET OUT guy. He reluctantly sides with Killmonger when T'Challa decides to step into the spotlight.

Man-Ape is the leader of an anti-technology, anti-Vibranium tribe that opposes T'Challa, but is not a villain. When Killmonger takes over and wants to plunge all of Wakanda in a needless war against the entire world, Man-Ape teams up with T'Challa to stop him.

No Bucky.

No Avengers cameos.

A lot of stuff I like from this...

Spoiler (click to reveal)
- killmonger cheating to win... T'challa is definitely going over warrior falls lol

- killmonger killing klaue. I asked for that from the beginning!!


one thing I dont like...

Spoiler (click to reveal)
- half brother thing. I guess it gives killmonger the right to the throne but eh


Very interesting not really shocked by any of that if it's all Tru..
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on January 31, 2018, 06:47:54 am
Yeah those were likely just piecing thing's together. Trailers still did a good job of not spoiling anything.


Not to fond of
Spoiler (click to reveal)
soul stone powering Vibranium,
or being in Wakanda in general. Because then if the Stone is taken then Vibranium becomes inert? Is that going to be a plot in the sequel? I guess that would make Klaw a more threatening villain Because his main weakness is gone. But that can also mean less unique tech.. too many questions lol. Also it means IW it's going to get nuked
but it could of been worse this allows less wiggle room for folks wanting to talk isht.

 
Spoiler (click to reveal)
W'kabi has a chance to redeem himself

Kilmonger being his brother can work, gives him more of a Right to challenge him and allows him to survive the HSH. But childhood friend could also have worked for me
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Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on January 31, 2018, 06:59:02 am
i've never liked the idea of the soul stone

but it could just "be inside there" and no longer actually doing anyway. So the vibranium would still be there.. its already done its "job" with the vibranium

they ain't making it inert... too many toys to make in the future

(but yeah, Wakanda gonna get wrecked unless they get the stone nad move it lol)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on January 31, 2018, 07:03:46 am
I wouldn't be surprised if the whole planet gets wrecked and after Thanos is defeated they use the gauntlet to put everything back.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on January 31, 2018, 07:20:59 am
Hopefully Wakanda looks good though. I mean they going to get wrecked Which I feel gives an excuse for coates run after this is over.. but dammit I hate that thought
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on January 31, 2018, 07:27:03 am
Hopefully Wakanda looks good though. I mean they going to get wrecked Which I feel gives an excuse for coates run after this is over.. but dammit I hate that thought

I just can't see that

only because, this movie is going to have a lot of "people don't like what T'challa is doing" in it. aka the variosu tribal leaders not wanting to "go public" or whatever.

I don't think you can turn around and have ANOTHER movie that is "people don't like what T'challa is doing" lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on January 31, 2018, 07:45:53 am
Hopefully Wakanda looks good though. I mean they going to get wrecked Which I feel gives an excuse for coates run after this is over.. but dammit I hate that thought

I just can't see that

only because, this movie is going to have a lot of "people don't like what T'challa is doing" in it. aka the variosu tribal leaders not wanting to "go public" or whatever.

I don't think you can turn around and have ANOTHER movie that is "people don't like what T'challa is doing" lol

Or a "should we have a monarch? Look what happened with one man in power..."  I would rather they go the Sturm und Drang route. Put America and Wakanda at odds. Or a version of World tour where folks are reacting to Wakanda going public.. hopefully by the time the sequel is out. Redjack can take a over and/or Evans if he Does good or R H himself.

I just don't want Coates name floating around the MCU anymore, its a freaking plague that can undo the Great stuff too easily
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on January 31, 2018, 08:18:22 am
I like that the stone is there. It gives a reason for Thanos too attack instead of AvX where Tchalla let's them use Wakanda as a base.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on January 31, 2018, 08:21:34 am
I like that the stone is there. It gives a reason for Thanos too attack instead of AvX where Tchalla let's them use Wakanda as a base.

Did you see the lego leaks?

Spoiler (click to reveal)
Vision is in Wakanda. Shuri is going to remove the stone from his head

and honstly, I am always down for "end of the world events" involving using Wakanda as a base.

AvX didn't make any sense because the Phoenix 5 were actually doing good everywhere. They were not a threat until poked by Cap over and over
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on January 31, 2018, 10:27:09 am
So i just realized they simply combined elements of Jakarra into Killmonger with the half brother/lead a revolt bit

hmm
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: mrkareemruiz on January 31, 2018, 02:19:31 pm
Soul stone is going to back Black Panther after Thanos get his ass whipped at the end of IW 2. Black Panther will keep his Soul stone, and other like Ironman, Captain marvel and Strange will keep them safe. Common sense tells you they are setting up the Illuminati. Vibranium has nothing to do with the soul stone.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: mrkareemruiz on January 31, 2018, 02:21:28 pm
 Wakanda's not gonna get wrecked because they want to do Black panther 2, common sense. They would not set up Klaw then do nothing with it.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on January 31, 2018, 02:46:26 pm
They can easily pull a time runs out (Wakanda gets destroyed along with earth) then bring it back with the guantlet at the end
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 01, 2018, 10:00:08 pm
Courtesy of Kingnomarch[/size]

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/MKQSI (http://"https://m.imgur.com/gallery/MKQSI")
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 02, 2018, 12:36:33 pm
i skimmed through one of the kids books at BAM for the movie.

They a lot of times are rather accurate in regards to spoils on certain things.

Anyway, in the book. when M'baku challenges t'challa when coronated, T'challa is actually stripped of his powers for the fight.

Only after he wins does Zuri perform the HSH ceremony so he regains his powers.

Thats kind of interesting. Although it presents at quandary if the above spoilers are correct and Killmonger defeats him later in a similar challenge... how does T'challa get his powers back?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on February 02, 2018, 01:13:28 pm
So i just realized they simply combined elements of Jakarra into Killmonger with the half brother/lead a revolt bit

hmm

In retrospective I'd prefer BP & KM be cousins ( weather distant or closely related) than Bros..
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 04, 2018, 06:23:22 am
Chesterfield from CBR.

Quote from: Chesterfield;3426183
Regarding T'Challa's intelligence and not being smarter than Shuri, for those worried/concerned click at 18:47

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU817stZOh8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU817stZOh8)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 04, 2018, 06:30:13 am
Chesterfield from CBR.

Quote from: Chesterfield;3426183
Regarding T'Challa's intelligence and not being smarter than Shuri, for those worried/concerned click at 18:47

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU817stZOh8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU817stZOh8)

(https://media.giphy.com/media/un1u5EN4iCGaY/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 04, 2018, 08:53:36 am
Works for me   8) all I needed
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 05, 2018, 06:28:37 am
potential IW spoilers, click at your own risk, in regards to the invasion of Wakanda...

the Russos confirmed they purposedly had fake sh*t in their scripts to throw people off so once again, take with grain of salt

Spoiler (click to reveal)
>Thanos reclaims the Reality Stone and teleports to Wakanda to reclaim the Mind Stone. The two groups of heroes meet and face Thanos and his forces in an all-out battle in Wakanda.

>Thanos defeats them and reclaims the Soul Stone, which can only be claimed by one who has assembled the other Infinity Stones. Thanos sacrifices Gamora's soul for it and completes the Infinity Gauntlet.

>Loki betrays Thanos and gives the heroes an opportunity to escape and regroup as Thanos becomes the supreme master of the Universe and begins reshaping it to his will.


Oh lord Thanos might be coming to Wakanda

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 05, 2018, 06:39:14 am
Also should be noted that in regards to the soul stone, according to his leaker person

Spoiler (click to reveal)
it is not in Wakanda
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 06, 2018, 06:44:55 am
New feat in a Hulu Commercial

Spoiler (click to reveal)
He throws a energy charged spear at one of the WK ships from the ground. The ships has to be 50 to 100 feet in the air hovering.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 06, 2018, 07:30:53 am
New feat in a Hulu Commercial

Spoiler (click to reveal)
He throws a energy charged spear at one of the WK ships from the ground. The ships has to be 50 to 100 feet in the air hovering.

lol holy sh*t

guesss that is why the toy has that weapon then.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 06, 2018, 10:23:32 am
post credit scenes are minor

Spoiler (click to reveal)
1- tchalla at UN saying Wakanda will help the world

2- bucky out of ice with Shuri
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 06, 2018, 01:11:35 pm
Spoilers f
Spoiler (click to reveal)
or movie

>The past. Young T'Challa attends college and is mentored by a wise professor.

>The present. T'Challa returns to Wakanda to become king.

>M'Baku challenges him to a duel for the throne, but is defeated.

>T'Challa wants to keep Wakanda hidden. His ex-girlfriend Nakia believes they should help the world.

>Nakia locates Klaw in Korea trying to sell Vibranium.

>T'Challa, Nakia and Okoye head there and run into Everett Ross.

>Casino fight. T'Challa captures Klaw and surrenders him to Ross.

>Killmonger rescues Klaw. They are in cahoots.

>Killmonger is captured and is brought before T'Challa. He wants to use Vibranium to lead a global black uprising against white people.

>T'Challa's best friend W'Kabi betrays him and supports Killmonger alongside the rest of his tribesman.

>Killmonger challenges T'Challa to a duel for the throne. T'Challa loses and is presumed dead.

>Killmonger claims the throne and kills Klaw.

>T'Challa survives and goes on a spiritual journey, visiting Necropolis and being advised by the spirits of the previous Black Panthers.

>Meanwhile, Nakia, Okoye, Shuri, Ramanda and Ross convince M'Baku and his tribesman to stop Killmonger and his loyalists.

>The two armies battle outside the Vibranium mines. T'Challa shows up, but it turns out Killmonger got his own suit.

>T'Challa and Killmonger battle inside the mines while their forces battle outside.

>Killmonger dies. W'Kabi surrenders. T'Challa and M'Baku reach an agreement. T'Challa and Nakia renew their relationship.

>T'Challa visits his college professor in Atlanta and realizes the outside world needs their help. He summons a press conference and reveals the true nature of Wakanda as well as their plans to share their technology with their impoverished African neighbors.

>Post-credit scene is Bucky awakening from cryosleep.

all hail queen nakia!!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 08, 2018, 06:40:52 am
From what a gathered, killmonger isn't t'challa brother, but cousin

it is like we thought, njobobobob is his dad and is also tchakas brother

that makes a lot more sense
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 08, 2018, 07:08:45 am
Here you go, full, very reliable spoilers.

I didn't read it all in detail because I don't want ot spoil THAT much but judging from the responses, it should be on point.


Spoiler (click to reveal)
Wakanda is founded by five tribes who find a meteor made of Vibranium that crash-landed on Africa. The Vibranium-enrich soil produces the Heart-Shaped Herb, which enhances the physical attributes of those who consume it. The five tribes decide to keep Wakanda a secret from the outside world. The king must use the Heart-Shaped Herb to defend his people as the Black Panther.

The past. King T’Chaka (John Kani) confronts his brother N’Jobu (Sterling K. Brown), a secret agent sent to spy on the American government. Embittered by their oppression, N’Jobu plans to lead an uprising, and T’Chaka is forced to kill him to keep Wakanda a secret.

The present. Rogue Special Forces operative Erik “Killmonger” Stevens (Michael B. Jordan) helps weapons dealer Ulysses Klaue (Andy Serkis) steal a Wakandan relic made of Vibranium from a museum. Meanwhile, T’Chaka’s son, T’Challa (Chadwick Boseman), is on his way back to Wakanda to become the new king after his father’s death. Along the way, he rescues his ex-girlfriend Nakia (Lupita Nyong’o), a secret agent who had been captured by human traffickers. In Wakanda, he reunites with his sister Shuri (Letitia Wright) and their mother Ramanda (Angela Basset).

M’Baku (Winston Duke), the leader of the anti-technology mountain tribe, challenges T’Challa to a duel for the throne, but is defeated. T’Challa later learns Klaue has been located in Busan trying to sell the relic. Klaue is the only foreigner ever to discover Wakanda and survive, and he murdered the parents of T’Challa’s best friend, W’Kabi (Daniel Kaluuya), the leader of the border tribe. T’Challa decides to go after Klaue to either capture him or kill him, and is accompanied by Nakia and W’Kabi’s wife Okoye (Danai Gurira), the leader of Wakanda’s military force, the Dora Milaje.

In Busan, T’Challa runs into CIA agent Everett Ross (Martin Freeman), who is running his own operation to capture Klaue. Klaue realizes he has fallen into a trap, leading to a massive shootout. Black Panther captures Klaue, who is interrogated by Ross. Suddenly, Killmonger and his men attack the CIA safe house to extract Klaue, and Ross is shot. T’Challa decides to take him to Wakanda so Shuri can heal him, as he considers Ross a friend. Killmonger wants to follow them, but Klaue wants out of the deal. Killmonger kills him.

W’Kabi is butthurt that T’Challa didn’t kill Klaue and instead brought a foreigner into Wakanda. Killmonger arrives and presents Klaue’s corpse, earning the Wakandans’ favor. He reveals that he is N’Jobu’s son, and T’Challa’s cousin. As such, he is entitled to the throne and challenges T’Challa to a duel.

T’Challa and Killmonger face off at a waterfall. Killmonger gains the upper hand and stabs T’Challa, throwing him down the river to his apparent death. Killmonger is then crowned king, with W’Kabi and the border patrol supporting him. Killmonger orders the Heart-Shaped Herb to be destroyed and creates his own Vibranium-enhanced Panther suit. Okoye and the Dora Milaje are forced to support him.

Killmonger announces he’ll arm black revolutionaries across the world with Vibranium-based weapons and fulfill his father’s dream of a uprising against white people.

Nakia, Shuri, Ramanda and Ross escape from Killmonger’s men with the last Heart-Shaped Herb and reach out to M’Baku for help. It turns out that M’Baku has found T’Challa and the mountain tribe is nursing him back to health. T’Challa confers with the spirits of the previous Black Panthers, including his father, for guidance.

T’Challa and his followers confront Killmonger and his loyalists in the Vibranium mines. T’Challa and Killmonger fight inside the mine, while Nakia and Shuri fight Killmonger’s loyalists outside and Ross destroys the weapons. They are joined by M’Baku and the mountain tribe as well as the Dora Milaje. Killmonger’s followers are defeated, and W’Kabi surrenders to Okoye.

T’Challa gains the upper hand and stabs Killmonger. He then takes Killmonger atop the mountain so he can watch Wakanda’s sunset like he always dreamed. T’Challa reclaims the throne and announces that the best way to end oppression is not to avenge the past, but to change the future. He also gets back together with Nakia.

Mid-credits: T’Challa comes before the United Nations to reveal Wakanda’s existence and announces they’ll be sharing their advanced technology with the world.

Post-credits: Shuri visits Bucky, who is cured of his brainwashing and living in Wakanda under the name of “White Wolf”.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 08, 2018, 07:21:34 am
This sounds so epic I might have to bring some pocket tissues.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on February 08, 2018, 06:29:52 pm
Here you go, full, very reliable spoilers.

I didn't read it all in detail because I don't want ot spoil THAT much but judging from the responses, it should be on point.


Spoiler (click to reveal)
Wakanda is founded by five tribes who find a meteor made of Vibranium that crash-landed on Africa. The Vibranium-enrich soil produces the Heart-Shaped Herb, which enhances the physical attributes of those who consume it. The five tribes decide to keep Wakanda a secret from the outside world. The king must use the Heart-Shaped Herb to defend his people as the Black Panther.

The past. King T’Chaka (John Kani) confronts his brother N’Jobu (Sterling K. Brown), a secret agent sent to spy on the American government. Embittered by their oppression, N’Jobu plans to lead an uprising, and T’Chaka is forced to kill him to keep Wakanda a secret.

The present. Rogue Special Forces operative Erik “Killmonger” Stevens (Michael B. Jordan) helps weapons dealer Ulysses Klaue (Andy Serkis) steal a Wakandan relic made of Vibranium from a museum. Meanwhile, T’Chaka’s son, T’Challa (Chadwick Boseman), is on his way back to Wakanda to become the new king after his father’s death. Along the way, he rescues his ex-girlfriend Nakia (Lupita Nyong’o), a secret agent who had been captured by human traffickers. In Wakanda, he reunites with his sister Shuri (Letitia Wright) and their mother Ramanda (Angela Basset).

M’Baku (Winston Duke), the leader of the anti-technology mountain tribe, challenges T’Challa to a duel for the throne, but is defeated. T’Challa later learns Klaue has been located in Busan trying to sell the relic. Klaue is the only foreigner ever to discover Wakanda and survive, and he murdered the parents of T’Challa’s best friend, W’Kabi (Daniel Kaluuya), the leader of the border tribe. T’Challa decides to go after Klaue to either capture him or kill him, and is accompanied by Nakia and W’Kabi’s wife Okoye (Danai Gurira), the leader of Wakanda’s military force, the Dora Milaje.

In Busan, T’Challa runs into CIA agent Everett Ross (Martin Freeman), who is running his own operation to capture Klaue. Klaue realizes he has fallen into a trap, leading to a massive shootout. Black Panther captures Klaue, who is interrogated by Ross. Suddenly, Killmonger and his men attack the CIA safe house to extract Klaue, and Ross is shot. T’Challa decides to take him to Wakanda so Shuri can heal him, as he considers Ross a friend. Killmonger wants to follow them, but Klaue wants out of the deal. Killmonger kills him.

W’Kabi is butthurt that T’Challa didn’t kill Klaue and instead brought a foreigner into Wakanda. Killmonger arrives and presents Klaue’s corpse, earning the Wakandans’ favor. He reveals that he is N’Jobu’s son, and T’Challa’s cousin. As such, he is entitled to the throne and challenges T’Challa to a duel.

T’Challa and Killmonger face off at a waterfall. Killmonger gains the upper hand and stabs T’Challa, throwing him down the river to his apparent death. Killmonger is then crowned king, with W’Kabi and the border patrol supporting him. Killmonger orders the Heart-Shaped Herb to be destroyed and creates his own Vibranium-enhanced Panther suit. Okoye and the Dora Milaje are forced to support him.

Killmonger announces he’ll arm black revolutionaries across the world with Vibranium-based weapons and fulfill his father’s dream of a uprising against white people.

Nakia, Shuri, Ramanda and Ross escape from Killmonger’s men with the last Heart-Shaped Herb and reach out to M’Baku for help. It turns out that M’Baku has found T’Challa and the mountain tribe is nursing him back to health. T’Challa confers with the spirits of the previous Black Panthers, including his father, for guidance.

T’Challa and his followers confront Killmonger and his loyalists in the Vibranium mines. T’Challa and Killmonger fight inside the mine, while Nakia and Shuri fight Killmonger’s loyalists outside and Ross destroys the weapons. They are joined by M’Baku and the mountain tribe as well as the Dora Milaje. Killmonger’s followers are defeated, and W’Kabi surrenders to Okoye.

T’Challa gains the upper hand and stabs Killmonger. He then takes Killmonger atop the mountain so he can watch Wakanda’s sunset like he always dreamed. T’Challa reclaims the throne and announces that the best way to end oppression is not to avenge the past, but to change the future. He also gets back together with Nakia.

Mid-credits: T’Challa comes before the United Nations to reveal Wakanda’s existence and announces they’ll be sharing their advanced technology with the world.

Post-credits: Shuri visits Bucky, who is cured of his brainwashing and living in Wakanda under the name of “White Wolf”.

One of my cousins worker saw it & I ask him about most these spoilers.. this sounds very accurate/lined up to the most part with what he saw.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 09, 2018, 05:11:46 am
This sounds so epic I might have to bring some pocket tissues.

This is how his comic book should be.

Not democracy. But a real unique, fictional culture that combines elements of tribal law with a monarchy

Why is the only tribe we ever see the Jabari? why not a river tribe? border tribe? WHY DID IT TAKE A MOVIE PERSON TO DO THIS?

There are a wealth of possibilities the more tribes you had. political dealings, allies, uneasy alliances, betrayals

you can make a real game of thrones type of situation out of this.

The only person who even got close to something like this was Priest.

Coogler saw the interesting and unique aspects of Wakanda and expanded them to make a real unique ish culture.

Coates saw the interesting and uniuqe aspects of Wakanda and crushed it

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 09, 2018, 05:42:14 am
This sounds so epic I might have to bring some pocket tissues.

This is how his comic book should be.

Not democracy. But a real unique, fictional culture that combines elements of tribal law with a monarchy

Why is the only tribe we ever see the Jabari? why not a river tribe? border tribe? WHY DID IT TAKE A MOVIE PERSON TO DO THIS?

There are a wealth of possibilities the more tribes you had. political dealings, allies, uneasy alliances, betrayals

you can make a real game of thrones type of situation out of this.

The only person who even got close to something like this was Priest.

Coogler saw the interesting and unique aspects of Wakanda and expanded them to make a real unique ish culture.

Coates saw the interesting and uniuqe aspects of Wakanda and crushed it

I do like that they shrunk it to five tribes. It makes it easier to manage world wise, but I guess it limits it on the comic side when you start to run out for internal stories.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 09, 2018, 06:09:58 am
This sounds so epic I might have to bring some pocket tissues.

This is how his comic book should be.

Not democracy. But a real unique, fictional culture that combines elements of tribal law with a monarchy

Why is the only tribe we ever see the Jabari? why not a river tribe? border tribe? WHY DID IT TAKE A MOVIE PERSON TO DO THIS?

There are a wealth of possibilities the more tribes you had. political dealings, allies, uneasy alliances, betrayals

you can make a real game of thrones type of situation out of this.

The only person who even got close to something like this was Priest.

Coogler saw the interesting and unique aspects of Wakanda and expanded them to make a real unique ish culture.

Coates saw the interesting and uniuqe aspects of Wakanda and crushed it

I do like that they shrunk it to five tribes. It makes it easier to manage world wise, but I guess it limits it on the comic side when you start to run out for internal stories.

You can have 5 main tribes (what are the other two anyway? Mountain, River, Border, and ??) with smaller "houses" inside the tribes trying to get control if you really wanted to on the comic side. that would give you more potential conflict

- Mountain/Jabari/White Gorilla
- River/Crocodile
- Border/Lion
- Jungle/Panther
- errr something/insert cool animal lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 09, 2018, 06:56:55 am
How about African Falcon? An animal to represent the air.
I like the idea of smaller houses within the tribes. That's a good fix.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 09, 2018, 07:11:10 am
How about African Falcon? An animal to represent the air.
I like the idea of smaller houses within the tribes. That's a good fix.

So crows?


i'd lol but i'd rather cry
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 09, 2018, 07:39:14 am
As long as they don't live on an ice wall I think we're good. lol

Maybe a bit of futurism with a floating city?

I may have to steal warging(sp) though. lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 09, 2018, 08:08:43 am
Having 5 main tribes makes it easier to manage and use then all without getting too confusing,
each one would have to be unique, but it's still easy to tell stories of you make it like African GoT style, with superpowers. That would actually be amazingly awesome. Hell it could be it's own ongoing, literally BP WoW could be that title.

As for the animal, it could be a jackal buzzard, hyena tribe, or one I thought of, nomadic elephant tribe (these people don't have a exact region perse, but they are a tribe of Giants, at minimum the shortest people in that tribe are as tall as Kilmonger) and go from there. Lots of stories to be told, less super heroey, but still lots of super powered action both physical and political
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 09, 2018, 08:27:50 am
i did this REALLY quick but...

(https://i.imgur.com/Th6lwGY.jpg)


5 tribes

- BLUE: Mountain: obvious, the Jabari/White Gorilla cult. They are disconnected from the vibranium mound so they grew up without it and thus reject the techological advances that came from it.

- RED: the vibranium mound: It is shared by the remaining 4 tribes that border it... no one tribe controls it, although the Panther tribe generally runs operations

- GREEN: river/crocadile tribe: they control the where the waterways interconnect in wakanda, making them very important for trade purposes

- YELLOW: border/lion tribe: Simple people but VERY VERY tough due to their border with Azania and Niganda and the first line of defense for Wakanda as the other borders are blocked by mountains and a giant lake. Responsible for much of the agriculture in Wakanda due ot access to the fields

- BLACK: royals/panther tribe: The tribe that has been ruling for centuries and created the crown jewel of Waknada: the golden city. They value education and technology more than any of the tribes and thus are more advanced than the rest.

- PINK: falcon or cheetah or hyena or elephant tribe: They are a nomadic people as their isn't much around. known to move very quickly through the plains undetected.


I did this VERY quick lol. this format also gives each region a major city... although I would like to see the cities renamed to reflect ancient warriors/leaders from each tribe. Mountain would be Birnin Jabari for instance.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 09, 2018, 08:43:55 am
I've decided, BP WoW needs to be revamped as a Wakandan game of thrones style comic, centered fully in Wakanda deals a GoT style balance/Fight for power, hell it could even be set earlier like Bashengas time initially to set the stage then jump into present time
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 09, 2018, 09:08:07 am
i did this REALLY quick but...

(https://i.imgur.com/Th6lwGY.jpg)


5 tribes

- BLUE: Mountain: obvious, the Jabari/White Gorilla cult. They are disconnected from the vibranium mound so they grew up without it and thus reject the techological advances that came from it.

- RED: the vibranium mound: It is shared by the remaining 4 tribes that border it... no one tribe controls it, although the Panther tribe generally runs operations

- GREEN: river/crocadile tribe: they control the where the waterways interconnect in wakanda, making them very important for trade purposes

- YELLOW: border/lion tribe: Simple people but VERY VERY tough due to their border with Azania and Niganda and the first line of defense for Wakanda as the other borders are blocked by mountains and a giant lake. Responsible for much of the agriculture in Wakanda due ot access to the fields

- BLACK: royals/panther tribe: The tribe that has been ruling for centuries and created the crown jewel of Waknada: the golden city. They value education and technology more than any of the tribes and thus are more advanced than the rest.

- PINK: falcon or cheetah or hyena or elephant tribe: They are a nomadic people as their isn't much around. known to move very quickly through the plains undetected.


I did this VERY quick lol. this format also gives each region a major city... although I would like to see the cities renamed to reflect ancient warriors/leaders from each tribe. Mountain would be Birnin Jabari for instance.

I think this is a good submission for the protocols thread for future stories.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 09, 2018, 09:57:24 am
i'll post it elsewhere after the movie is out

idk if people know there are 5 tribes or not. I don't even know what the other 2 tribes are so lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Metro on February 10, 2018, 08:58:48 am
wow.
wait until you see what's coming next.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 16, 2018, 03:36:49 am
Bump it up

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 16, 2018, 05:26:30 am
This movie really was great. I was into it start the finish... it was so good that when it was getting close to the end.. .it felt SHORT instead of the longest MCU movie yet.

There were so many moments ripped straight from the comics.

When BP took down I rhino I was like "YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IVE SEEN THAT FEAT" lol

I don't even want to read comics anymore after this. i think it woudl be too depressing.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 16, 2018, 05:46:33 am
10/10 Greatest superhero movie of all time

T'Challa vs Erik was gut-wrenching
Nakia dancing to the drums in the tribal paint, oh my (i froze)
Shuri and M'Baku were scene stealers, had my audience rolling everytime
Okoye was pretty much the people's champ, my audience adored her

"Every breath you take is mercy by me"... i was like yo! i understand that reference!!!

So much more to add, but oh my goodness. 

I saw the Rhyno feat and i was like muhahahaha
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 16, 2018, 05:47:37 am
White Wolf tho  ;)

That in and of itself is a multi-page discussion hahaha

I anxiously await 4sake's reaction  ;D
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 16, 2018, 06:26:53 am
10/10 Greatest superhero movie of all time

T'Challa vs Erik was gut-wrenching
Nakia dancing to the drums in the tribal paint, oh my (i froze)
Shuri and M'Baku were scene stealers, had my audience rolling everytime
Okoye was pretty much the people's champ, my audience adored her

"Every breath you take is mercy by me"... i was like yo! i understand that reference!!!

So much more to add, but oh my goodness. 

I saw the Rhyno feat and i was like muhahahaha

I just wanted to stand up and scream out comic runs everytime I saw something

like the HSH herb ceremony... YO MCGREGOR YOU MADE IT DUDE!!!!

And yes... I need more M'baku in my life.


God... the comics SUCK! Look at all the sh*t Coogler did with this movie.

And we can't even get proper tribes in the comics! we can't even get feats anymore.

OLD DUDE FORCE PUNCHED THE GROUND, CAUGHT A SPEAR, AND TOOK DOWN A JET IN ONE MOVE

"id rather die in the ocean than be bonded" or whatever killmonger said... YO THOSE FEELS


ALL HAIL QUEEN NAKIA!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 16, 2018, 06:44:52 am
10/10 Greatest superhero movie of all time

T'Challa vs Erik was gut-wrenching
Nakia dancing to the drums in the tribal paint, oh my (i froze)
Shuri and M'Baku were scene stealers, had my audience rolling everytime
Okoye was pretty much the people's champ, my audience adored her

"Every breath you take is mercy by me"... i was like yo! i understand that reference!!!

So much more to add, but oh my goodness. 

I saw the Rhyno feat and i was like muhahahaha

I just wanted to stand up and scream out comic runs everytime I saw something

like the HSH herb ceremony... YO MCGREGOR YOU MADE IT DUDE!!!!

And yes... I need more M'baku in my life.


God... the comics SUCK! Look at all the sh*t Coogler did with this movie.

And we can't even get proper tribes in the comics! we can't even get feats anymore.

OLD DUDE FORCE PUNCHED THE GROUND, CAUGHT A SPEAR, AND TOOK DOWN A JET IN ONE MOVE

"id rather die in the ocean than be bonded" or whatever killmonger said... YO THOSE FEELS


ALL HAIL QUEEN NAKIA!

Yo... that and the Rhyno take down..

What's funny is i had watched BP kill Batman again in the death battle youtube prior to going to the theaters and in that fight they had the Rhyno take down too.  So when it happened in the theater i was grinning like a muthaf*cka hahaha; the go-to comic feat!   :D

Erik channeling his inner Malcolm X.  Or maybe not Malcolm, but just angry militant righteous villain thing.  It worked.  It worked very well in fact.

Really, the deaths surprised me.  But when i thought about it, it was a logical route to take that I respect a lot.  It closes the loop and gives the proper emotional gravitas, without any doubts or shenangians.. culminating with that Thrillmonger speech at the end
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 16, 2018, 07:00:48 am
Killmonger was just sooooo broken. He lived off of pure hate for so long that when he got what he wanted... there was no good left.

But it was understandable. A little kid trapped in the hood in the 90s hears all these fairy tales about an african kingdom of techological wonder... so different than where he is now. And all that is taken from him when the king of the same country kills his dad and LEAVES HIS ASS THERE!

So he spends his whole life in this hood, then spends his whole adult life killing people just so when he gets his one shot at the people who f*cked his life off he can kill the dude

i mean sh*t... this isn't Loki sh*t. Loki was taken from hell and raised as a damn prince. Killmonger should have been raised a prince and instead was stuck in hell.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 16, 2018, 07:25:42 am
someone posted this on reddit

Quote
Just realized... Despite it basically being a meme, the whole "I never freeze" saying was basically the core of his character arc. He's shown at the beginning to freeze for Nakia. Nakia is symbolic of change, or revolution.

Throughout the movie, I was paying attention to the one criticism I read about Black Panther: that he's a flawless character. Maybe he is in some ways, but he still has struggles, and the whole theme of the movie is him struggling with change and revolution.

But then he literally freezes to stay alive. When he's saved, they cover him in snow in the mountains of a tribe that was different than his, effectively outsiders in a different way. While "frozen" (more just really cold), he reaches the climax of his arc, where he realizes what he has to do. Then he unfreezes.

The meme was his biggest character arc.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 16, 2018, 07:55:49 am
You just reminded me about the Queen Nakia thread i need to make
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 16, 2018, 08:32:34 am
You just reminded me about the Queen Nakia thread i need to make

Im like paralyzed over here.

i wanna bust some heads with T'challa and Shuri in Future fight

but I also wanna argue with everyone on reddit

and I also wanna write 10 blog posts

and ten IG posts
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 16, 2018, 08:56:05 am
"Hey auntie"


I just f*cking lost it at that. funniest line in the movie imo.

and also, stay safe over in the CBR thread. weird names lurking about, don't take the bait.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 16, 2018, 09:03:42 am
"Hey auntie"


I just f*cking lost it at that. funniest line in the movie imo.

and also, stay safe over in the CBR thread. weird names lurking about, don't take the bait.

At this point you should know i don't entertain any of those lames directly lol.  Only the real ones.

Case in point, I hope you saw my gifs on their from late last night.  It was no coincidence the people i chose  :D

I'm pretty sure the intended target got the message
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 16, 2018, 09:30:41 am
I've been trying to tell people for months if not over a year now that answering directly to those CBR lames is feeding into what they want.  They want you to take the bait and get riled up.

What you're supposed to do is take the essence of what they were trying to say troll you with, and flip it on them in the most innocent way :).  Don't even quote them; just make a general observation that trolls their trolling, painting all those that think like them to be idiots or incompetent, without ever saying their name. 

They'll get mad bc they know what you're doing, and the more people that respond and champion what you said, the more it pisses them off because now they know that you're the captain now.  You have the attention they wanted, and are doing it at their expense. 

Example:  Queen Nakia <- My magnus opus
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 16, 2018, 10:29:02 am
The scene with Tchaka and his brother in the apt. It was at that point I knew how good it was go to be.

When the lights went off/on and he was there and the conversation after.

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 16, 2018, 10:30:59 am
The scene with Tchaka and his brother in the apt. It was at that point I knew how good it was go to be.

When the lights went off/on and he was there and the conversation after.

i was sold during the narration with the sand animation

saw Bast and was like "done sold 10/10" lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 16, 2018, 10:36:54 am
The scene with Tchaka and his brother in the apt. It was at that point I knew how good it was go to be.

When the lights went off/on and he was there and the conversation after.

i was sold during the narration with the sand animation

saw Bast and was like "done sold 10/10" lol

I liked that into too. That was a quick and easy explanation

Did pPhylicia Rashād get her voice over anywhere?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 16, 2018, 03:08:32 pm
So was that a Hunter reference during the Bucky after credit scene?

Also when Zuri got speared and the Dora got her necked sliced, I almost died with them.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 16, 2018, 03:37:57 pm
So was that a Hunter reference during the Bucky after credit scene?

Also when Zuri got speared and the Dora got her necked sliced, I almost died with them.

That was a "aint no way we doin hunter bc 4sake will have a heart attack do here is a fun easter egg" moment lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Emperorjones on February 16, 2018, 07:12:11 pm
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/kareem-abdul-jabbar-black-panther-all-fuss-a-superhero-movie-1084545 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/kareem-abdul-jabbar-black-panther-all-fuss-a-superhero-movie-1084545)

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/black-panther-blade-a-rich-creative-legacy-1085226 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/black-panther-blade-a-rich-creative-legacy-1085226)

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/black-panther-taps-500-years-history-1085334 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/black-panther-taps-500-years-history-1085334)

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/will-black-panther-be-a-watershed-moment-black-studio-films-1084398 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/will-black-panther-be-a-watershed-moment-black-studio-films-1084398)

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Emperorjones on February 16, 2018, 07:24:38 pm
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/the-provocation-and-power-of-black-panther/553226/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/the-provocation-and-power-of-black-panther/553226/)

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/black-panther-review/553508/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/black-panther-review/553508/)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456416/black-panther-review-believe-hype (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456416/black-panther-review-believe-hype)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456485/blank-panther-overhyped-race-fantasy (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456485/blank-panther-overhyped-race-fantasy)

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Emperorjones on February 17, 2018, 02:29:47 am
I was just thinking about something. The central issue of Wakanda being involved in the world or not is sort of undermined by having all of those War Dogs already implanted in various countries. While Nakia seemingly is not a War Dog, though I'm not sure about that, I can't see her not acting to save the kidnapped girls at the beginning of the film. And we do see that Black Panther and Okoye did step in to intervene, so perhaps Wakanda has been involved for quite some time, but in a subtle way. Heck, even T'Chaka was at that international forum in Civil War. If they were so isolationist why would he have been there?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 17, 2018, 05:12:03 am
Its the same as seen in Flags of our Fathers. They had spies and gathered information from all over the world, but only took active rolls when Wakanda was threatened. I think Nakia, like Killmongers, father was going above and beyond. lol.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 17, 2018, 06:09:31 am
Okoye explicitly called nakia a war dog

Nakia was also weird. She wanted tchalla to help from beginning.

It would also make since war dogs opinions might change... uts like soneone getting out of a small town and realizing not all brown people are bad lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 17, 2018, 07:05:37 am
A FB post reminded me there was no infinity stone. They were good at getting disinformation out there. lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 17, 2018, 07:28:41 am
A FB post reminded me there was no infinity stone. They were good at getting disinformation out there. lol

It makes the infinity war plot leaks seem more and more likely. Namely that...

The Black Order are in Wakanda because of....
Spoiler (click to reveal)
vision being in Wakanda so Shuri can get the mind stone out

and Thanos gets the soul stone by...
Spoiler (click to reveal)
sacrificing Gamora's life aka the life of a loved one after having the other 5 stones
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 17, 2018, 07:33:46 am
A FB post reminded me there was no infinity stone. They were good at getting disinformation out there. lol

I had a thought about that.  There is one thing in the movie that could be the final Infinity Stone:. Vibranium!

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 17, 2018, 07:34:49 am
I was just thinking about something. The central issue of Wakanda being involved in the world or not is sort of undermined by having all of those War Dogs already implanted in various countries. While Nakia seemingly is not a War Dog, though I'm not sure about that, I can't see her not acting to save the kidnapped girls at the beginning of the film. And we do see that Black Panther and Okoye did step in to intervene, so perhaps Wakanda has been involved for quite some time, but in a subtle way. Heck, even T'Chaka was at that international forum in Civil War. If they were so isolationist why would he have been there?

Still Haven't seen the movie, but wasn't this explained why T'Chaka was at the summit because the Vibranium Klaw stole affected Sakovia and some Wakandans were killed?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 17, 2018, 07:35:40 am
A FB post reminded me there was no infinity stone. They were good at getting disinformation out there. lol

It makes the infinity war plot leaks seem more and more likely. Namely that...

The Black Order are in Wakanda because of....
Spoiler (click to reveal)
vision being in Wakanda so Shuri can get the mind stone out

and Thanos gets the soul stone by...
Spoiler (click to reveal)
sacrificing Gamora's life aka the life of a loved one after having the other 5 stones

Marvel has released fake scripts of Infinity War.  Believe nothing.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 17, 2018, 07:58:22 am
A FB post reminded me there was no infinity stone. They were good at getting disinformation out there. lol

It makes the infinity war plot leaks seem more and more likely. Namely that...

The Black Order are in Wakanda because of....
Spoiler (click to reveal)
vision being in Wakanda so Shuri can get the mind stone out

and Thanos gets the soul stone by...
Spoiler (click to reveal)
sacrificing Gamora's life aka the life of a loved one after having the other 5 stones

Marvel has released fake scripts of Infinity War.  Believe nothing.

each new trailer and toy release are making the plot leaks looking more and more accurate.

For instance, Stormbreaker. Nailed that plot point and side quest well before the toy came out.

It's obviously not perfect but its been rather accurate so far for a leak that happened a long time ago.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 17, 2018, 08:10:17 am
I was just thinking about something. The central issue of Wakanda being involved in the world or not is sort of undermined by having all of those War Dogs already implanted in various countries. While Nakia seemingly is not a War Dog, though I'm not sure about that, I can't see her not acting to save the kidnapped girls at the beginning of the film. And we do see that Black Panther and Okoye did step in to intervene, so perhaps Wakanda has been involved for quite some time, but in a subtle way. Heck, even T'Chaka was at that international forum in Civil War. If they were so isolationist why would he have been there?

Still Haven't seen the movie, but wasn't this explained why T'Chaka was at the summit because the Vibranium Klaw stole affected Sakovia and some Wakandans were killed?


Re: T'chaka in Viena

In the movie, ross was under the impression Klaw stole ALL the vibrinium and now it was all gone due to the fact T'chaka said so at the UN

T'chaka could have been there as a front to stop people from looking for the rest of it.

People in the MCU knew of Wakanda, they just didn't know the truth about it.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 17, 2018, 09:30:49 am
I only skimmed through the BP related "spoilers" of that Infinity War script leak y'all made a thread about months ago.  Whether I believed it or not was contingent on the soul stone appearing in Wakanda or not.  It did not.  Therefore, and combined with the trailer, the parts I skimmed seem to lean toward being accurate.

Which would be a bummer if a certain fight ends a certain way with a different character getting the spotlight
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 17, 2018, 10:06:31 am
Saw it.  Enjoyed it.   Only a couple of minor quibbles:

First:

Spoiler (click to reveal)
I found it a bit odd that the border tribe members rebelled against T'Challa so easily, when he is literally RIGHT THERE.
   W'Kabi himself, sure, because of the Klaw thing, but there was little evidence that he had so much power over them that they would fight the (rightful) king on his say-so.

Second:

Spoiler (click to reveal)
I'm a little disappointed that they basically spoiled one of the end-credit scenes in the trailers.  It's a weird choice.

Other than that, I loved the acting (especially Shuri & M'Baku), enjoyed the designs, and am mildly irritated at how many of the move's ideas are similar to stuff I've posted here.  Priest was right... it's not "his" T'Challa (or "his" Ross, for that matter).  But  it's the Panther the MCU needs.

And, in conclusion:

F*ck the comics.
Glory to Bast & Hanuman.
And...

WAKANDA FOREVER!!!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 17, 2018, 10:13:32 am


Which would be a bummer if a certain fight ends a certain way with a different character getting the spotlight

Hickman forever f*cked us with this off panel bullsh*t.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 17, 2018, 10:20:44 am
Saw it.  Enjoyed it.   Only a couple of minor quibbles:

First:

Spoiler (click to reveal)
I found it a bit odd that the border tribe members rebelled against T'Challa so easily, when he is literally RIGHT THERE.
   W'Kabi himself, sure, because of the Klaw thing, but there was little evidence that he had so much power over them that they would fight the (rightful) king on his say-so.

Second:

Spoiler (click to reveal)
I'm a little disappointed that they basically spoiled one of the end-credit scenes in the trailers.  It's a weird choice.

Other than that, I loved the acting (especially Shuri & M'Baku), enjoyed the designs, and am mildly irritated at how many of the move's ideas are similar to stuff I've posted here.  Priest was right... it's not "his" T'Challa (or "his" Ross, for that matter).  But  it's the Panther the MCU needs.

And, in conclusion:

F*ck the comics.
Glory to Bast & Hanuman.
And...

WAKANDA FOREVER!!!

Irritated at movie ideas??
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 17, 2018, 10:24:39 am


Which would be a bummer if a certain fight ends a certain way with a different character getting the spotlight

Hickman forever f*cked us with this off panel bullsh*t.

The Question is, would it of even made a difference? Widow was no where to be seen when the black order attacks earth but seems like in the trailer she is fighting corvus. Hulk got smacked around by thanos, so really I don't think it would of changed anything if Hickman showed it or not (it would of been Badass to see though and he should of done it rather then wasting panels on useless stuff) because this is likely the swan song for the old guard
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 17, 2018, 10:25:45 am
Irritated at movie ideas??

Yeah, because now, if I ever use them, people will assume I ripped of the films. :D
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 17, 2018, 10:27:21 am


And, in conclusion:

f*ck the comics.
Glory to Bast & Hanuman.
And...

WAKANDA FOREVER!!!

seriously, the comics are so bad...



yeah, I actually didn't like W'kabi much. I didn't even like the acting... he honestly felt like the worst actor out of them all. Maybe he was just surrounded by too much acting talent but something about W'kabi felt... off. IDK what it was.

For me, nitpicking wise, I wish the action was in the light a bit more. The opening action scene was hard to make out what was happening as was the train fight scene at times because it was so dark.

And I would have loved one of the tribal challenges to be a creed like one shot but that is likely asking too much lol


Personal preference was... that was not muh Zuri damnit!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 17, 2018, 10:29:33 am


Which would be a bummer if a certain fight ends a certain way with a different character getting the spotlight

Hickman forever f*cked us with this off panel bullsh*t.

The Question is, would it of even made a difference? Widow was no where to be seen when the black order attacks earth but seems like in the trailer she is fighting corvus. Hulk got smacked around by thanos, so really I don't think it would of changed anything if Hickman showed it or not (it would of been Badass to see though and he should of done it rather then wasting panels on useless stuff) because this is likely the swan song for the old guard

I think it would have.

If hickman basically story boarded the fight, I could easily seeing the russos going "ok thats cool" and doing it.

Instead its, "that was a cool quote but how did he actually beat a guy that went toe to toe with 3 galactic power houses? oh well f*ck it, let's just let
Spoiler (click to reveal)
Hulk
beat his ass instead"

And widow ain't taken down no Corvus, I almost guarantee that. It would screw with power levels too much and MCU loves their power levels. Cap is killing one of them for sure
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 17, 2018, 10:46:52 am
So about T'challa's genius

It was only hinted at once during the scene with shuri talking about the suits. "The suit you designed" line obviously hints that he may have made it before shuri was old enough to run sh*t.

Which is fine.


I am hoping we will get some "see wakanda and die" type battle genius in infinity war. And maybe some prep type stuff in BP2.

I don't need Priest type stuff only because that is likely VERY VERY VERY hard to do on screen and not be just straight stupid I think. There is likely a reason "prep genius" batman who has had 200000 movies doesn't really have that level of prep either.

But I do want to see some sort of battle/attack strategy eventually.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 17, 2018, 11:08:46 am


Which would be a bummer if a certain fight ends a certain way with a different character getting the spotlight

Hickman forever f*cked us with this off panel bullsh*t.

The Question is, would it of even made a difference? Widow was no where to be seen when the black order attacks earth but seems like in the trailer she is fighting corvus. Hulk got smacked around by thanos, so really I don't think it would of changed anything if Hickman showed it or not (it would of been Badass to see though and he should of done it rather then wasting panels on useless stuff) because this is likely the swan song for the old guard

I think it would have.

If hickman basically story boarded the fight, I could easily seeing the russos going "ok thats cool" and doing it.

Instead its, "that was a cool quote but how did he actually beat a guy that went toe to toe with 3 galactic power houses? oh well f*ck it, let's just let
Spoiler (click to reveal)
Hulk
beat his ass instead"

And widow ain't taken down no Corvus, I almost guarantee that. It would screw with power levels too much and MCU loves their power levels. Cap is killing one of them for sure

Considering IW is part 1; it's likely no one wins in this movie.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 17, 2018, 12:33:16 pm
I liked W'Kabi and the path they went with him and Okoye, I thought Daniel Kaluuya gave a powerful presence to the character despite the limited talking roles.  Reminds me of a naija college buddy who said few words but his expression is all you needed to know.

I just got back from watching it a second time, and that opening fight scene against the Nigerian kidnappers was way too darkly lit and hard to follow, I agree. You couldn't appreciate what BP was doing as much bc it was a struggle to decipher through the flashing lights.

Lupita was great and her fight with Erik was fantastic, but they could've jazzed up her other h2h fights more, in the opening and the casino.  It was obvious Danai was a natural and could kick Donatello's shell
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 17, 2018, 12:38:11 pm
A comment about the Post credit scene: Shuri and Bucky.  It just got me---they're the next.  They both adopt the mantel of BP and Cap.  Now it could be an Easter Egg and it's far too early for the next BP, but we could have 2 BPs in MCU too
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 17, 2018, 12:40:49 pm
Did anyone catch to other 2 tribe names?

Blue border
Green river
Jabari
Red was... merchant?
Purple was...??

I couldn't understand through the accents

Imma prolly gonna go weekly until pacific rim comes out
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 17, 2018, 12:52:32 pm
Purple is Mining Tribe.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 17, 2018, 12:56:08 pm
I was so engulfed with the movie that i actually forgot my surprised that we didn't see energy daggers.

I thought about it a couple days ago but forgot, then remembered again.  Shuri gonna throw everything and the kitchen sink at his suit in BP 2
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 17, 2018, 01:00:08 pm
BP's suit is a feat guy's wet dream. Pause. 

(Unless pause doesn't apply here).

At some point I'll have to properly categorize every hit that suit took and apply it to proper Rumbles board classification.  But my initial impression is I don't think goon slam gary can compete
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 17, 2018, 01:29:56 pm
I the clip where T'Challa and Erik fall into the mine shaft. That was easily a 150+ foot drop and he landed on his back and got back up like it was nothing, that beats the crap out of caps jumping out of the Building and landing on his shield feat
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 17, 2018, 01:42:31 pm
I the clip where T'Challa and Erik fall into the mine shaft. That was easily a 150+ foot drop and he landed on his back and got back up like it was nothing, that beats the crap out of caps jumping out of the Building and landing on his shield feat

Yo, Klaw's canon arm blast destroyed those two cars like they were nothing but T'Challa's suit aight that blast point blank like scooby snacks!

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/J0jU16H81S13y/200w.gif)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 17, 2018, 01:47:35 pm
Yo, what was that gun that Thrillmonger shot T'Challa with when breaking out Klaw?

Was that sh*t a grenade launcher attached at the bottom?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 17, 2018, 01:48:47 pm
Yo, BP spooned a live grenade like you do ya girl while watching netflix.  It was crazy.

Ok, maybe you're supposed to spoon from the side and not on top but i'm trying to keep the references pg13 in here, like the movie.

Tho it was a pretty violent pg13.  People getting murked and throat slit
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 17, 2018, 01:55:46 pm
I hope Evans channel's the shot out of this movie. Seriously what you guys are describing is incredible. I will hopefully be able to sneak out and see it next weekend. But I gotta see it and join in all the festivities
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 17, 2018, 02:23:27 pm
They did a great job with the suit.  It's not invincible... but at the same time, it takes a lot for it to reach that point.

I-I don't think Spider-Man can beat him  :o

That will be an interesting future debate with you and the crew Ezyo, once we're all done watching this 5-10 more times hahaha
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mad Coco G on February 17, 2018, 02:47:57 pm
Yo, what was that gun that Thrillmonger shot T'Challa with when breaking out Klaw?

Was that sh*t a grenade launcher attached at the bottom?


Yeah and he took it like he scuffed up his knee
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 17, 2018, 03:40:20 pm
They did a great job with the suit.  It's not invincible... but at the same time, it takes a lot for it to reach that point.

I-I don't think Spider-Man can beat him  :o

That will be an interesting future debate with you and the crew Ezyo, once we're all done watching this 5-10 more times hahaha

I can't wait, the feats seem so good. Tchalla is probably im levels in terms of power tier From what I have seen
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 17, 2018, 04:04:06 pm
Peter cant fight. There is reason cap beat him. Hes a nerdy kid

He swings around kicking and running and webbing

Tchalla murders him.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 17, 2018, 04:28:35 pm
Peter cant fight. There is reason cap beat him. Hes a nerdy kid

He swings around kicking and running and webbing

Tchalla murders him.

Grown Spider-Man.

T'Challa's suit would absorb his punches like aquafina lotion, and after every punch, kinetic FU!!!!  Spider sense would stay on  tingles.  Pete would have to chuck things at him from a distance, like a coward.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 17, 2018, 04:31:13 pm
Kinetic FU...

... yea, I'm calling it that for now on  :D
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 17, 2018, 05:01:18 pm
Kinetic FU...

... yea, I'm calling it that for now on  :D

I can dig it.. sounds better then force/farce push
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 17, 2018, 05:12:09 pm
Actually, given that it's somewhat omnidirectional in the film, I suggest "Panther's Roar" :)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mad Coco G on February 17, 2018, 05:19:57 pm
Peter cant fight. There is reason cap beat him. Hes a nerdy kid

He swings around kicking and running and webbing

Tchalla murders him.

Grown Spider-Man.

T'Challa's suit would absorb his punches like aquafina lotion, and after every punch, kinetic FU!!!!  Spider sense would stay on  tingles.  Pete would have to chuck things at him from a distance, like a coward.



 I love Pete but even I know there’s no way he wouldn’t catch those hands.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 17, 2018, 05:40:28 pm
Actually, given that it's somewhat omnidirectional in the film, I suggest "Panther's Roar" :)

Wait... Baast Roar  8)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 17, 2018, 05:47:29 pm
We might need to make a poll and cast a vote on this  :D :D

Hahahah

The proper naming convention.

Any more nominations?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 17, 2018, 05:51:14 pm
Peter cant fight. There is reason cap beat him. Hes a nerdy kid

He swings around kicking and running and webbing

Tchalla murders him.

Grown Spider-Man.

T'Challa's suit would absorb his punches like aquafina lotion, and after every punch, kinetic FU!!!!  Spider sense would stay on  tingles.  Pete would have to chuck things at him from a distance, like a coward.



 I love Pete but even I know there’s no way he wouldn’t catch those hands.

Yea I think at some point BP is gon tag him, and it'll only get worse after the first time.  Spidey doesn't have durability against piercing weapons, let alone vibranium claws and the suit's ability that we have not properly named yet is such a big game changer
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 17, 2018, 06:03:50 pm
We might need to make a poll and cast a vote on this  :D :D

Hahahah

The proper naming convention.

Any more nominations?

Well, since Shuri invented it, and she's rather frivolous, how about "Dropping the Boom" :)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 17, 2018, 06:13:28 pm
I've got it!  "Bast Drop".  :D
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 17, 2018, 06:50:09 pm
I've got it!  "Bast Drop".  :D

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/theamazingworldofgumball/images/0/06/Oh_ho_ho.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130813184101)
It's good because you mixed the music term "Bass drop" with the Panther goddess
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 17, 2018, 06:53:18 pm
Heart Shaped Hammer

Wakanda wallop

Ancestral outburst

The kingly combustion causin concussions
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 17, 2018, 07:29:53 pm
The real "King's Landing" lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 17, 2018, 07:45:24 pm
I'ma make the poll tomorrow morning.  That's like 8-9 choices right now lmao
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 17, 2018, 08:31:24 pm
I'ma make the poll tomorrow morning.  That's like 8-9 choices right now lmao

Make sure you add in your name inspired by My Hero Academia "Golden City Smash"
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 18, 2018, 05:29:12 am
One other question comes to mind:

Spoiler (click to reveal)
Just how do the Jabari get around so quickly, given that they eschew technology? 

Twice in the movie, they show up in the capital, without anybody noticing.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Gessela on February 18, 2018, 05:56:10 am
@beware - I assumed their knowledge of the terrain and their senses heightened over the years as they shunned technology, while the other tribes senses would've likely dulled with all that cool tech.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 18, 2018, 06:23:11 am
One other question comes to mind:

Spoiler (click to reveal)
Just how do the Jabari get around so quickly, given that they eschew technology? 

Twice in the movie, they show up in the capital, without anybody noticing.

Spoiler (click to reveal)
A massive network of tunnels?  Actually, though it's not said in the movie, they could be the mystics of Wakanda.  It would fit, enshew technology; embrace mystic.

On the other hand, for this Wakanda to maintain the illusion for so long, it can't be a huge nation, so distances may not be as great as they seem.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 18, 2018, 08:43:19 am
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/weekend-box-office-black-panther-bounds-record-shattering-218m-debut-1085932 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/weekend-box-office-black-panther-bounds-record-shattering-218m-debut-1085932)
Quote
In a defining moment for Hollywood, Disney and Marvel Studios' Black Panther exploded at the Presidents Day box office, bounding to a record-shattering $192 million for the three-day weekend and a projected $218 million-plus for the four-day holiday.

Holy sh*t
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 18, 2018, 08:54:07 am
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/weekend-box-office-black-panther-bounds-record-shattering-218m-debut-1085932 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/weekend-box-office-black-panther-bounds-record-shattering-218m-debut-1085932)
Quote
In a defining moment for Hollywood, Disney and Marvel Studios' Black Panther exploded at the Presidents Day box office, bounding to a record-shattering $192 million for the three-day weekend and a projected $218 million-plus for the four-day holiday.

Holy sh*t

What did I say? 190 Mil, 200+ mil. It's going to beat Avengers, I think by Monday, it's going to have amazed 260 Mil..

BP made made it Guys
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 18, 2018, 09:05:34 am
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/weekend-box-office-black-panther-bounds-record-shattering-218m-debut-1085932 (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/weekend-box-office-black-panther-bounds-record-shattering-218m-debut-1085932)
Quote
In a defining moment for Hollywood, Disney and Marvel Studios' Black Panther exploded at the Presidents Day box office, bounding to a record-shattering $192 million for the three-day weekend and a projected $218 million-plus for the four-day holiday.

Holy sh*t

What did I say? 190 Mil, 200+ mil. It's going to beat Avengers, I think by Monday, it's going to have amazed 260 Mil..

BP made made it Guys


You won our bet bro

I enthusiastically humbly accept defeat  :D
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 18, 2018, 09:40:17 am
Chadwick gonna be the new RDJ

Time to reshoot IW to get nakia in there lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 18, 2018, 09:53:34 am
Hey yo, Flex came back to CBR yesterday. A brief cameo, but it perfectly captured everyone's feelings of the last 48 hours lmao.

Black Claw informed me that even the most blazen Storm fans are on board with Queen Nakia now. 

I went over and saw it with my own eyes  :o, and that's when i saw Flex's post... like a post-credits Easter egg scene to the greatest Black Panther weekend of all time.

This is all very surreal right now
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 18, 2018, 10:10:28 am
Top 5 Opening Weekends of All Time

1. Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 247.9 million
2. Star Wars: The Last Jedi - 220 million
3. Jurassic World - 208 million
4. Avengers - 2017.4 million
5. Black Panther - 192 million
--
6. Avengers: Age of Ultron - 191 million
7. Captain America: Civil War - 179 million
8. Beauty and the Best - 174.7 million
9. Iron Man 3 - 176.1 million
10. Harry Potter: DH part 2 - 169 million

GOAT Superhero (http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/9/ad45b8ce59e6ab4d7e08a23f336f9e4e.png?t=1518140205)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 18, 2018, 10:57:31 am
Top 5 Opening Weekends of All Time

1. Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 247.9 million
2. Star Wars: The Last Jedi - 220 million
3. Jurassic World - 208 million
4. Avengers - 2017.4 million
5. Black Panther - 192 million
--
6. Avengers: Age of Ultron - 191 million
7. Captain America: Civil War - 179 million
8. Beauty and the Best - 174.7 million
9. Iron Man 3 - 176.1 million
10. Harry Potter: DH part 2 - 169 million

GOAT Superhero ([url]http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/9/ad45b8ce59e6ab4d7e08a23f336f9e4e.png?t=1518140205[/url])


Weekend ain't over yet. Still has time to knock out the other 4 contenders. I think it can't hit number one,
if not then atleast #2
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Booshman on February 18, 2018, 12:20:26 pm
Top 5 Opening Weekends of All Time

1. Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 247.9 million
2. Star Wars: The Last Jedi - 220 million
3. Jurassic World - 208 million
4. Avengers - 2017.4 million
5. Black Panther - 192 million
--
6. Avengers: Age of Ultron - 191 million
7. Captain America: Civil War - 179 million
8. Beauty and the Best - 174.7 million
9. Iron Man 3 - 176.1 million
10. Harry Potter: DH part 2 - 169 million

GOAT Superhero ([url]http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/9/ad45b8ce59e6ab4d7e08a23f336f9e4e.png?t=1518140205[/url])


LOL! I knew it! People said I was insane and overplaying it, when I said it would hit more than their "160-170 mill tops" estimates!

"Always bet on Black!" isn't just a fancy slogan anymore, folks.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 18, 2018, 12:35:44 pm
Top 5 Opening Weekends of All Time

1. Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 247.9 million
2. Star Wars: The Last Jedi - 220 million
3. Jurassic World - 208 million
4. Avengers - 2017.4 million
5. Black Panther - 192 million
--
6. Avengers: Age of Ultron - 191 million
7. Captain America: Civil War - 179 million
8. Beauty and the Best - 174.7 million
9. Iron Man 3 - 176.1 million
10. Harry Potter: DH part 2 - 169 million

GOAT Superhero ([url]http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/9/ad45b8ce59e6ab4d7e08a23f336f9e4e.png?t=1518140205[/url])


Weekend ain't over yet. Still has time to knock out the other 4 contenders. I think it can't hit number one,
if not then atleast #2



They dont count monday with these records
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 18, 2018, 01:07:21 pm
Ah lame, well it definitely smashed deadpools record
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 18, 2018, 01:08:23 pm
Top 5 Opening Weekends of All Time

1. Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 247.9 million
2. Star Wars: The Last Jedi - 220 million
3. Jurassic World - 208 million
4. Avengers - 2017.4 million
5. Black Panther - 192 million
--
6. Avengers: Age of Ultron - 191 million
7. Captain America: Civil War - 179 million
8. Beauty and the Best - 174.7 million
9. Iron Man 3 - 176.1 million
10. Harry Potter: DH part 2 - 169 million

GOAT Superhero ([url]http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/9/ad45b8ce59e6ab4d7e08a23f336f9e4e.png?t=1518140205[/url])


LOL! I knew it! People said I was insane and overplaying it, when I said it would hit more than their "160-170 mill tops" estimates!

"Always bet on Black!" isn't just a fancy slogan anymore, folks.


(https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=https://s5.postimg.org/79dvadcpz/bpdwi-700-004-lg120-t2.gif&key=a44d61517a51873f551b5cdc2c8b7fd5cf4c3e31e6fd2d7cb5b7e3100565eb5e)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 18, 2018, 01:32:49 pm
Oh sweet Bast that is funny! I need that gif
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 18, 2018, 02:51:40 pm
A FB post reminded me there was no infinity stone. They were good at getting disinformation out there. lol


It makes the infinity war plot leaks seem more and more likely. Namely that...

The Black Order are in Wakanda because of....
Spoiler (click to reveal)
vision being in Wakanda so Shuri can get the mind stone out

and Thanos gets the soul stone by...
Spoiler (click to reveal)
sacrificing Gamora's life aka the life of a loved one after having the other 5 stones


Marvel has released fake scripts of Infinity War.  Believe nothing.


each new trailer and toy release are making the plot leaks looking more and more accurate.

For instance, Stormbreaker. Nailed that plot point and side quest well before the toy came out.

It's obviously not perfect but its been rather accurate so far for a leak that happened a long time ago.


I don't know if that's really Stormbreaker.  It looks like a hybrid of Mjlonier and Ultimate Mjlonier.
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/02/16/thor-hammer-avengers-infinity-war-/ (http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/02/16/thor-hammer-avengers-infinity-war-/)


Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 18, 2018, 02:59:25 pm
It also has the curved handle of the ax he carries during Unworthy Thor and God Butcher.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 18, 2018, 03:06:34 pm
It also has the curved handle of the ax he carries during Unworthy Thor and God Butcher.

That's it! 
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 18, 2018, 04:01:53 pm
I just called it stormbreaker bc thats what the toys are calling ut
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 18, 2018, 05:08:16 pm
One criticism i dont buy is that "the third act was predictable"

95% of comic and action movie third acts are predictable. Doubly so for interconnected cinematic universes.

Spoiler alert... the good guy shows up and beats ass to save XYZ.



Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 18, 2018, 05:40:52 pm
One criticism i dont buy is that "the third act was predictable"

95% of comic and action movie third acts are predictable. Doubly so for interconnected cinematic universes.

Spoiler alert... the good guy shows up and beats ass to save XYZ.

I get tired of people complaining that the third act is super hero vs super villain.   That's the whole point of the movie!  Yeah, we could see something like the original Superman, where it is Superman vs an earthquake.  But I want to see Hulk smash Abomination's face!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 18, 2018, 05:50:57 pm
I think it's more predictable when the third act is a big CGI-fest (especially a battle against some sort of giant monster).  BP more or less dodged that bullet, but I can't say the same for all superhero movies. 
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 18, 2018, 06:04:09 pm
One criticism i dont buy is that "the third act was predictable"

95% of comic and action movie third acts are predictable. Doubly so for interconnected cinematic universes.

Spoiler alert... the good guy shows up and beats ass to save XYZ.

I get tired of people complaining that the third act is super hero vs super villain.   That's the whole point of the movie!  Yeah, we could see something like the original Superman, where it is Superman vs an earthquake.  But I want to see Hulk smash Abomination's face!

Yep

Spoiler the one ring gets destroyed

Spoiler dark phoenix wont destroy world

Spoiler dumbledore beats grindlewald

Spoiler aquaman beats manta
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 18, 2018, 06:25:15 pm
Haters gotta say something to cover up and try to fight Against the Hype. FB is especially bad. "don't believe then hype" Yea BP just crushed the majority of Marvel's movie's,
only beaten out by the og Avengers movie for marvel and landed in the top 5... GTFO
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 18, 2018, 06:25:31 pm
One criticism i dont buy is that "the third act was predictable"

95% of comic and action movie third acts are predictable. Doubly so for interconnected cinematic universes.

Spoiler alert... the good guy shows up and beats ass to save XYZ.

I get tired of people complaining that the third act is super hero vs super villain.   That's the whole point of the movie!  Yeah, we could see something like the original Superman, where it is Superman vs an earthquake.  But I want to see Hulk smash Abomination's face!

Yep

Spoiler the one ring gets destroyed

Spoiler dark phoenix wont destroy world

Spoiler dumbledore beats grindlewald

Spoiler aquaman beats manta

I'm going to hold out for that last one if they do Young Justice Manta. lol

If its the comic version, proceed as scheduled. 
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 18, 2018, 06:27:20 pm
One criticism i dont buy is that "the third act was predictable"

95% of comic and action movie third acts are predictable. Doubly so for interconnected cinematic universes.

Spoiler alert... the good guy shows up and beats ass to save XYZ.

I get tired of people complaining that the third act is super hero vs super villain.   That's the whole point of the movie!  Yeah, we could see something like the original Superman, where it is Superman vs an earthquake.  But I want to see Hulk smash Abomination's face!

Yep

Spoiler the one ring gets destroyed

Spoiler dark phoenix wont destroy world

Spoiler dumbledore beats grindlewald

Spoiler aquaman beats manta

Damn it man use spoiler tags, i aint seen any of these yet!!!  :'(
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 18, 2018, 06:30:05 pm
One criticism i dont buy is that "the third act was predictable"

95% of comic and action movie third acts are predictable. Doubly so for interconnected cinematic universes.

Spoiler alert... the good guy shows up and beats ass to save XYZ.

I get tired of people complaining that the third act is super hero vs super villain.   That's the whole point of the movie!  Yeah, we could see something like the original Superman, where it is Superman vs an earthquake.  But I want to see Hulk smash Abomination's face!

Yep

Spoiler the one ring gets destroyed

Spoiler dark phoenix wont destroy world

Spoiler dumbledore beats grindlewald

Spoiler aquaman beats manta

I'm going to hold out for that last one if they do Young Justice Manta. lol

If its the comic version, proceed as scheduled.

Lowkey DC had a hit with Young Justice, with Kalduar, his dad, and Rocket, his girl.

Emphasis on had because DC aint sh*t and fukked it all up twice.  Made Kaldur some static shock looking fool, then put him on the bench for years, then brought him back as a gay kid whose father hates him and of course no Rocket in sight.

But this is off topic and i remember there was a thread about being off topic; i'm guilty right now  :-\
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 18, 2018, 06:34:39 pm
(https://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/September-26-2012-09-00-54-080125moviespoilers.jpg)  8)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 18, 2018, 08:23:48 pm
what am I missing?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 18, 2018, 08:27:37 pm
what am I missing?

We're discussing that reviews don't like that the last act is predictable, but we are asserting that relatively all action movies have a predictable ending.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 19, 2018, 05:46:12 am
This is going to be me when Captan Marvel opens at 84 million


(https://media.giphy.com/media/9MFsKQ8A6HCN2/giphy.gif)


(yes petty)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 19, 2018, 06:09:29 am
With Sam and Dewanda in it, black women could make it a hit.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 19, 2018, 06:27:53 am
202 mill folks


202!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/box-office-black-panther-claims-second-best-sunday-ever-domestically-on-track-for-monster-4-day-haul-a157988 (https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/box-office-black-panther-claims-second-best-sunday-ever-domestically-on-track-for-monster-4-day-haul-a157988)


And it sold well in South Korea


China... we watching you
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Gessela on February 19, 2018, 06:55:23 am
Black Panther
‘Sins of Our Fathers’

I’ve seen a few youtube reviews attributing Kilmonger’s motive solely to revenge and his struggle growing up outside of Wakanda, but I see a bit more. Surely he had the internal pain of growing up without his father, but he also seemed to excel in whatever endeavor he chose (MIT, Special Ops etc…). What I took away was that more than revenge, he wanted to live up to his father, the same as T’Challa. Both T’Challa and Erik were following the edicts of their fathers.They both may’ve had ancillary family support (we don’t know about Erik’s mother’s side), but only one had the comfort of a nation. I think some youtube reviewers missed where N’jobu laid the path for Erik in the beginning of the movie. He talked about the leaders being assassinated; the need to provide arms, and the whole apartment was dedicated to revolution (Huey P. Newton and PE on the wall). So even if he didn’t verbalize this to a young Erik directly, he would have woke up to it on the wall every day, grew up with it all around him in the history of Oakland. To me, Kilmonger longed to carry out his father’s mission, T’Challa feared living up to his father’s image.
Anyway just some observations, they could of subtitled this as –
Black Panther
‘Sins of Our Fathers’

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 19, 2018, 07:48:56 am
here was a map of Wakanda in an art book

(https://i.imgur.com/fnd8XmJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 19, 2018, 08:12:51 am
here was a map of Wakanda in an art book

(https://i.imgur.com/fnd8XmJ.jpg)

I like it. Do you know the name of the art book?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 19, 2018, 08:45:40 am
Can anyone confirm this.

(https://scontent.fric1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/27973001_591437254527932_1947823005119951340_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=d403ee72df1d144e26f1f3a3b357c71c&oe=5B190103)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Battle on February 19, 2018, 08:55:16 am
Can anyone confirm this.




Good find!  Thanks for the image!  :)

Review that scene in 'Age of Ultron' when Tony Stark and Bruce Banner receives a secret message to decrypt from Wakanda.

Bruce mentions that part of the message means "...thief..."
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Gessela on February 19, 2018, 08:58:50 am
Can't confirm that, but in this film N'Jobu's folder has the key to the language translated for Erik to read.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Battle on February 19, 2018, 09:00:12 am
For your information;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scFwIVoy41o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scFwIVoy41o)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 19, 2018, 09:06:15 am
202 mill folks


202!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/box-office-black-panther-claims-second-best-sunday-ever-domestically-on-track-for-monster-4-day-haul-a157988 (https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/box-office-black-panther-claims-second-best-sunday-ever-domestically-on-track-for-monster-4-day-haul-a157988)


And it sold well in South Korea


China... we watching you

I'm confused, yesterday they were saying it was at 192 mil? Now it's 202 mil?? Or are they just estimates? I'm so confused
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 19, 2018, 09:21:39 am
202 mill folks


202!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/box-office-black-panther-claims-second-best-sunday-ever-domestically-on-track-for-monster-4-day-haul-a157988 (https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/box-office-black-panther-claims-second-best-sunday-ever-domestically-on-track-for-monster-4-day-haul-a157988)


And it sold well in South Korea


China... we watching you

I'm confused, yesterday they were saying it was at 192 mil? Now it's 202 mil?? Or are they just estimates? I'm so confused

192 was an estimate. They were estimating Sunday's sells.

202 was what they actually sold.

day of/day before numbers = estimates

day after = real

the estimates are generally really close but with this movie they keep low balling it

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 19, 2018, 09:40:46 am
Can anyone confirm this.

(https://scontent.fric1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/27973001_591437254527932_1947823005119951340_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=d403ee72df1d144e26f1f3a3b357c71c&oe=5B190103)

Can't say I like that.  There shouldn't be a one for one match for letters.  Wakandan alphabet could have 50 letters. Or it could be like China, where they aren't letters, they're characters.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 19, 2018, 09:44:54 am
202 mill folks


202!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/box-office-black-panther-claims-second-best-sunday-ever-domestically-on-track-for-monster-4-day-haul-a157988 (https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/box-office-black-panther-claims-second-best-sunday-ever-domestically-on-track-for-monster-4-day-haul-a157988)


And it sold well in South Korea


China... we watching you

I'm confused, yesterday they were saying it was at 192 mil? Now it's 202 mil?? Or are they just estimates? I'm so confused

192 was an estimate. They were estimating Sunday's sells.

202 was what they actually sold.

day of/day before numbers = estimates

day after = real

the estimates are generally really close but with this movie they keep low balling it

Ah okay. Well I'm still thinking it's going to Hit number 2 for sure. Beating out last Jedi to finish up Monday numbers
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 19, 2018, 09:48:06 am
I can confirm the alphabet matches what's on the throne in the first poster.  I came across a Reddit post with a partial alphabet last night, and did the decrypt myself.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 19, 2018, 10:05:39 am
202 mill folks


202!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/box-office-black-panther-claims-second-best-sunday-ever-domestically-on-track-for-monster-4-day-haul-a157988 (https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/box-office-black-panther-claims-second-best-sunday-ever-domestically-on-track-for-monster-4-day-haul-a157988)


And it sold well in South Korea


China... we watching you

I'm confused, yesterday they were saying it was at 192 mil? Now it's 202 mil?? Or are they just estimates? I'm so confused

192 was an estimate. They were estimating Sunday's sells.

202 was what they actually sold.

day of/day before numbers = estimates

day after = real

the estimates are generally really close but with this movie they keep low balling it

Ah okay. Well I'm still thinking it's going to Hit number 2 for sure. Beating out last Jedi to finish up Monday numbers

they think its gonna beat avengers 4 day total

it didn't quite beat the true "weekend" total of avegners though because they only counts 3 days.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Moose100 on February 19, 2018, 10:27:38 am
Man...Its been a minute since ive been through here. HISTORY IS BEING MADE!! We held strong for this character and now we are being rewarded in ways unanticipated!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 19, 2018, 10:46:38 am
202 mill folks


202!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/box-office-black-panther-claims-second-best-sunday-ever-domestically-on-track-for-monster-4-day-haul-a157988 (https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/box-office-black-panther-claims-second-best-sunday-ever-domestically-on-track-for-monster-4-day-haul-a157988)


And it sold well in South Korea


China... we watching you

I'm confused, yesterday they were saying it was at 192 mil? Now it's 202 mil?? Or are they just estimates? I'm so confused

192 was an estimate. They were estimating Sunday's sells.

202 was what they actually sold.

day of/day before numbers = estimates

day after = real

the estimates are generally really close but with this movie they keep low balling it

Ah okay. Well I'm still thinking it's going to Hit number 2 for sure. Beating out last Jedi to finish up Monday numbers

they think its gonna beat avengers 4 day total

it didn't quite beat the true "weekend" total of avegners though because they only counts 3 days.

Still BPs Solo movie only lost to sequels and ensembles, but come the 4th day it's likely going to land in 2nd place above.. That's huge for a standalone Marvel film
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 19, 2018, 10:59:33 am
I swear, some cats are out their looking for reason to be salty.

I can buy the, "man, T'challa got nerfed genius wise" argument. It happened. We only got one single hint he's smart (that he designed his old suit). And we certainly didn't get much of a prep genius T'challa.

I cannot for the life of me buy the, "T'challa isn't a great warrior" argument. I mean... wtf?

- T'challa stomps bucky in the suit over and over
- T'challa was winning the fight with murder mode Bucky outside of his suit. the same bucky the mashed Falcon, Cap, A13, and Widow
- T'challa smashes Clint
- T'challa stalemates Cap
- T'challa smashes human traffikers
- normal human T'challa beats M'baku in tribal combat
- t'challa doesn't struggle with Klaw's goons
- normal human t'challa loses to killmonger
- T'challa in suit fights off numerous border tribe Wakandan warriors, including kicking W'kabi into orbit and taking out a rhino  and spearing a wakandan airplane out of the sky
- T'challa wins the second fight with Killmonger

errr... how is this dude a weak fighter again? Because he lost to Killmonger? A dude who had been training to kill people as soon as he could? Just like T'challa?

T'challa ran into an equal and lost round 1 and won round 2. This is leaving out any potential story reasons such  the fact he may have been a bit conflicted fighting Killmonger. He just learned that his dad killed his uncle and left his cousin to rot in a America. He repeatedly asked Killmonger to walk away from the fight. He drew first blood and told Killmonger to yield and walk away.

Also... T'challa didn't have to accept the fight with killmonger. He was challenged and accepted. T'challa wasn't no bitch.

You simply had two warriors in their prime run into each other and they ended up splitting the fights.

And to piggyback on this... whatever idiots out there stating the movie didn't focus on T'challa watched a different movie than me. You know... you can celebrate the great supporting cast and villain without throwing shade on the lead right?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 19, 2018, 11:01:34 am
The fact that Black Panther did 201.7 million 3-day

and Avengers 1 did 207.4 million 3-day

That's frighteningly awesome.

200 milly club.

We did more than Justice League and Wonder Woman's 3-Day openings combined

We the best.  Ever.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 19, 2018, 11:05:03 am
Poor Sam Jackson  :'(

hahah

He knew this one was special and was furious he couldn't get in on it
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 19, 2018, 11:09:19 am
The fact that Black Panther did 201.7 million 3-day

and Avengers 1 did 207.4 million 3-day

That's frighteningly awesome.

200 milly club.

We did more than Justice League and Wonder Woman's 3-Day openings combined

We the best.  Ever.


Better do some reshoots of Avengers 4 and put in more T'challa, Okoye, Shuri, and M'baku

and where the hell is Nakia? Chillin in Cali?

If Avengers 3 or 4 kill any of Okoye, Shuri, M'baku, Nakia, W'kabi, or any Rhinos.... we riot.

(feel free to kill over Ayo and/or Aneka out of spite though)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 19, 2018, 11:14:23 am
The fact that Black Panther did 201.7 million 3-day

and Avengers 1 did 207.4 million 3-day

That's frighteningly awesome.

200 milly club.

We did more than Justice League and Wonder Woman's 3-Day openings combined

We the best.  Ever.


Better do some reshoots of Avengers 4 and put in more T'challa, Okoye, Shuri, and M'baku

and where the hell is Nakia? Chillin in Cali?

If Avengers 3 or 4 kill any of Okoye, Shuri, M'baku, Nakia, W'kabi, or any Rhinos.... we riot.

(feel free to kill over Ayo and/or Aneka out of spite though)

At this point, Shuri - Tony Stark interacting will be a mini event of its own
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 19, 2018, 11:17:10 am
And yea we definitely rioting, all non-red shirts can NOT die.

[M'Baku voice] We will not allow it o![/M'Baku voice]
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 19, 2018, 11:22:51 am
I swear, some cats are out their looking for reason to be salty.

I can buy the, "man, T'challa got nerfed genius wise" argument. It happened. We only got one single hint he's smart (that he designed his old suit). And we certainly didn't get much of a prep genius T'challa.

I cannot for the life of me buy the, "T'challa isn't a great warrior" argument. I mean... wtf?

- T'challa stomps bucky in the suit over and over
- T'challa was winning the fight with murder mode Bucky outside of his suit. the same bucky the mashed Falcon, Cap, A13, and Widow
- T'challa smashes Clint
- T'challa stalemates Cap
- T'challa smashes human traffikers
- normal human T'challa beats M'baku in tribal combat
- t'challa doesn't struggle with Klaw's goons
- normal human t'challa loses to killmonger
- T'challa in suit fights off numerous border tribe Wakandan warriors, including kicking W'kabi into orbit and taking out a rhino  and spearing a wakandan airplane out of the sky
- T'challa wins the second fight with Killmonger

errr... how is this dude a weak fighter again? Because he lost to Killmonger? A dude who had been training to kill people as soon as he could? Just like T'challa?

T'challa ran into an equal and lost round 1 and won round 2. This is leaving out any potential story reasons such  the fact he may have been a bit conflicted fighting Killmonger. He just learned that his dad killed his uncle and left his cousin to rot in a America. He repeatedly asked Killmonger to walk away from the fight. He drew first blood and told Killmonger to yield and walk away.

Also... T'challa didn't have to accept the fight with killmonger. He was challenged and accepted. T'challa wasn't no bitch.

You simply had two warriors in their prime run into each other and they ended up splitting the fights.

And to piggyback on this... whatever idiots out there stating the movie didn't focus on T'challa watched a different movie than me. You know... you can celebrate the great supporting cast and villain without throwing shade on the lead right?

Perhaps it's a case that we fans know exactly how dangerous Killmonger is; those who only know the screen version don't.  (They're still wrong; plenty to prove his warrior skill, but they don't realize Killmonger is a threat to Cap or Bucky.)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 19, 2018, 11:49:41 am
Seems people forget that Cap was getting worked on first Avenger and WS? In WS he was pretty much begging Bucky to stop giving him those hands and to snap out of it. Bit you won't hear complaints from those people, just excuses "It's his best friend, how could he fight at 100%"

People gotta hate to hate, they will contribute it beating out everything except OG Avenger's as Disney buying critic reviews and over Hype.. can't let that stop the rise
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 19, 2018, 11:57:38 am
I swear, some cats are out their looking for reason to be salty.

I can buy the, "man, T'challa got nerfed genius wise" argument. It happened. We only got one single hint he's smart (that he designed his old suit). And we certainly didn't get much of a prep genius T'challa.

I cannot for the life of me buy the, "T'challa isn't a great warrior" argument. I mean... wtf?

- T'challa stomps bucky in the suit over and over
- T'challa was winning the fight with murder mode Bucky outside of his suit. the same bucky the mashed Falcon, Cap, A13, and Widow
- T'challa smashes Clint
- T'challa stalemates Cap
- T'challa smashes human traffikers
- normal human T'challa beats M'baku in tribal combat
- t'challa doesn't struggle with Klaw's goons
- normal human t'challa loses to killmonger
- T'challa in suit fights off numerous border tribe Wakandan warriors, including kicking W'kabi into orbit and taking out a rhino  and spearing a wakandan airplane out of the sky
- T'challa wins the second fight with Killmonger

errr... how is this dude a weak fighter again? Because he lost to Killmonger? A dude who had been training to kill people as soon as he could? Just like T'challa?

T'challa ran into an equal and lost round 1 and won round 2. This is leaving out any potential story reasons such  the fact he may have been a bit conflicted fighting Killmonger. He just learned that his dad killed his uncle and left his cousin to rot in a America. He repeatedly asked Killmonger to walk away from the fight. He drew first blood and told Killmonger to yield and walk away.

Also... T'challa didn't have to accept the fight with killmonger. He was challenged and accepted. T'challa wasn't no bitch.

You simply had two warriors in their prime run into each other and they ended up splitting the fights.

And to piggyback on this... whatever idiots out there stating the movie didn't focus on T'challa watched a different movie than me. You know... you can celebrate the great supporting cast and villain without throwing shade on the lead right?

Facts!  I usually stay away from all things lames-related but i had to respond to that sh*t at CBR because i was like, what f*cking film were those doofuses watching?

T'Challa vs Erik part 1 was gut wrenching to watch but that's what made it important because it was essentially Ali vs Frazier.  Frazier won the first fight, Ali won the rematch and the rubber match.  But when Ali first lost, it (from what we always heard) was shocking and devastating to people, because of everything he represented (which in a way was unfairly vilifying Frazier).

And T'Challa vs Erik part 2 was again on equal grounds, and this time it was T'Challa who won straight up.   And before that, T'Challa vs M'Baku was pretty much Ali vs Foreman.


I mean sh*t, you know it's a special kind of dumbassary going on when me, xpac and Mike Murdock are all on the same page.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 19, 2018, 12:02:24 pm
Seems people forget that Cap was getting worked on first Avenger and WS? In WS he was pretty much begging Bucky to stop giving him those hands and to snap out of it. Bit you won't hear complaints from those people, just excuses "It's his best friend, how could he fight at 100%"

People gotta hate to hate, they will contribute it beating out everything except OG Avenger's as Disney buying critic reviews and over Hype.. can't let that stop the rise


Yea, I mean as a feats guy who wants to see T'Challa win at everything lol, i had no issues with how T'Challa vs Killmonger went.  The first fight was tough to stomach but that was great film making with the ambiance, the stakes, and everything that built up to it.  And made the payoff at the end worth it, but also very emotional

And the movie already set up prior to that bout that T'Challa was HNIC that nobody was trying to catch them hands from, except M'Baku who to his credit is right up there with T'Challa and Erik as alpha male HNICs
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 19, 2018, 12:07:46 pm



I mean sh*t, you know it's a special kind of dumbassary going on when me, xpac and Mike Murdock are all on the same page.

LOL wth did hell freeze over?


I just read something on a black panther reddit page where tchalla was a "bitch."

Also, some saying T'challa was overshadowed by the supporting cast, IMO, also watched a different movie than me. When T'challa was talking to Zuri about Eric and when he was telling his ancestors "naw bro that was f*cked up"
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 19, 2018, 12:15:21 pm



I mean sh*t, you know it's a special kind of dumbassary going on when me, xpac and Mike Murdock are all on the same page.

LOL wth did hell freeze over?


I just read something on a black panther reddit page where tchalla was a "bitch."

Also, some saying T'challa was overshadowed by the supporting cast, IMO, also watched a different movie than me. When T'challa was talking to Zuri about Eric and when he was telling his ancestors "naw bro that was f*cked up"

All 3 of us were combating the idea that T'Challa was a "chump outside the suit", and Murdock even quoted me to c/s my stance. I felt mad uncomfortable to say the least.

I hope sh*t like that never happens again
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 19, 2018, 12:18:33 pm
With that said, Flex is officially back and arguing with lames as to why Killmonger sh*ts all over Loki as GOAT villain.

Finally, some normalcy...
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 19, 2018, 12:45:26 pm
FLEX is back????

Tell him to get his ass here!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 19, 2018, 01:03:17 pm
FLEX is back????

Tell him to get his ass here!

I've actually never met (talked to) Flex lol

He was during my decade exodus from cbr.  But when I started lurking again, his Mickey Mouse skits were top knotch i vividly remember
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 19, 2018, 01:23:44 pm
Seems people forget that Cap was getting worked on first Avenger and WS? In WS he was pretty much begging Bucky to stop giving him those hands and to snap out of it. Bit you won't hear complaints from those people, just excuses "It's his best friend, how could he fight at 100%"

People gotta hate to hate, they will contribute it beating out everything except OG Avenger's as Disney buying critic reviews and over Hype.. can't let that stop the rise


Yea, I mean as a feats guy who wants to see T'Challa win at everything lol, i had no issues with how T'Challa vs Killmonger went.  The first fight was tough to stomach but that was great film making with the ambiance, the stakes, and everything that built up to it.  And made the payoff at the end worth it, but also very emotional

And the movie already set up prior to that bout that T'Challa was HNIC that nobody was trying to catch them hands from, except M'Baku who to his credit is right up there with T'Challa and Erik as alpha male HNICs

Lol i still haven't seen the movie but honestly, I'm still willing to discuss with my limited knowledge stuff, and thing is, it sounds like BP went a route you don't normally see on these Movies. In Marvel Movies, or super hero movies you don't usually see the hero take a crushing loss early on and nearly die (the only Movie I can think of was dark Knight rises) then comes back for the final bout. They usually have someone else take the major hit or have someone like a teacher or something die.. so I think that adds to it
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mad Coco G on February 19, 2018, 01:27:57 pm
Seems people forget that Cap was getting worked on first Avenger and WS? In WS he was pretty much begging Bucky to stop giving him those hands and to snap out of it. Bit you won't hear complaints from those people, just excuses "It's his best friend, how could he fight at 100%"

People gotta hate to hate, they will contribute it beating out everything except OG Avenger's as Disney buying critic reviews and over Hype.. can't let that stop the rise


Yea, I mean as a feats guy who wants to see T'Challa win at everything lol, i had no issues with how T'Challa vs Killmonger went.  The first fight was tough to stomach but that was great film making with the ambiance, the stakes, and everything that built up to it.  And made the payoff at the end worth it, but also very emotional

And the movie already set up prior to that bout that T'Challa was HNIC that nobody was trying to catch them hands from, except M'Baku who to his credit is right up there with T'Challa and Erik as alpha male HNICs


If they were smart they could at least attribute T’Challa losing that first fight with Killmonger due to being caught up in his feels over Zurai Getting my Killed right in front of him.


Also can we officially call the J’Bari clan the ninjas of Wakanda because even with barking and all nobody every saw those cats coming except for their first appearance.


They came outta nowhere barking in the middle of a battlefield in broad daylight
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Booshman on February 19, 2018, 05:55:40 pm
With that said, Flex is officially back and arguing with lames as to why Killmonger sh*ts all over Loki as GOAT villain.

Finally, some normalcy...

Wait...Flex Hectic? That wild dude's back? HAH! He was practically a novelist with his truth bombs, back in the day.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 19, 2018, 05:59:11 pm
Seems people forget that Cap was getting worked on first Avenger and WS? In WS he was pretty much begging Bucky to stop giving him those hands and to snap out of it. Bit you won't hear complaints from those people, just excuses "It's his best friend, how could he fight at 100%"

People gotta hate to hate, they will contribute it beating out everything except OG Avenger's as Disney buying critic reviews and over Hype.. can't let that stop the rise


Yea, I mean as a feats guy who wants to see T'Challa win at everything lol, i had no issues with how T'Challa vs Killmonger went.  The first fight was tough to stomach but that was great film making with the ambiance, the stakes, and everything that built up to it.  And made the payoff at the end worth it, but also very emotional

And the movie already set up prior to that bout that T'Challa was HNIC that nobody was trying to catch them hands from, except M'Baku who to his credit is right up there with T'Challa and Erik as alpha male HNICs


If they were smart they could at least attribute T’Challa losing that first fight with Killmonger due to being caught up in his feels over Zurai Getting my Killed right in front of him.


Also can we officially call the J’Bari clan the ninjas of Wakanda because even with barking and all nobody every saw those cats coming except for their first appearance.


They came outta nowhere barking in the middle of a battlefield in broad daylight

Hey, question.  Foreverybody who watched the movie.

When T'Challa knocked Killmonger down during the ceremonial fight... did he yell "yield"?  With the water splashing and drum beat, i'm not sure if i missed something there
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Booshman on February 19, 2018, 06:08:39 pm

Hey, question.  Foreverybody who watched the movie.

When T'Challa knocked Killmonger down during the ceremonial fight... did he yell "yield"?  With the water splashing and drum beat, i'm not sure if i missed something there

I think I missed that. Looks like I'll um...have to go buy another ticket. Just so I can be 100% sure.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 19, 2018, 06:32:32 pm

Hey, question.  Foreverybody who watched the movie.

When T'Challa knocked Killmonger down during the ceremonial fight... did he yell "yield"?  With the water splashing and drum beat, i'm not sure if i missed something there

I think I missed that. Looks like I'll um...have to go buy another ticket. Just so I can be 100% sure.

Same here.  Such is the burden we must bear for the greater good! 
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 19, 2018, 07:22:29 pm
Yes he did

When he first drew blood he yelled it. Fits with priests fight

Tchalla didnt realize what killmonger was... he soon found out lol

That is why i said... there are subtle thibgs that point to the fact he wasnt mentally 100% into the fight. He did feel sorry for the dude after all...

Luckily he learned the second fight to put the dagger where it belongs lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 19, 2018, 07:39:38 pm
With that said, Flex is officially back and arguing with lames as to why Killmonger sh*ts all over Loki as GOAT villain.

Finally, some normalcy...

Wait...Flex Hectic? That wild dude's back? HAH! He was practically a novelist with his truth bombs, back in the day.

Lol i understand the appeal he has. Amusing guy
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 19, 2018, 07:42:12 pm
Yes he did

When he first drew blood he yelled it. Fits with priests fight

Tchalla didnt realize what killmonger was... he soon found out lol

That is why i said... there are subtle thibgs that point to the fact he wasnt mentally 100% into the fight. He did feel sorry for the dude after all...

Luckily he learned the second fight to put the dagger where it belongs lol

So it was after the knock down?  Because it felt like he lingered for a moment and allowed Erik to get back up despite his sword pointing down at him.

And yea, the energy was noticeably different and it was clear that T'Challa really didn't want to fight.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 19, 2018, 08:34:26 pm
The reason T'Challa lost his first bout against Killmonger seemed obvious to me... he was still processing the fact that his father, the great King T'Chaka, killed his own brother and abandoned his nephew (the right move for a good king, perhaps, but not the act of a good man).  And because of that his head was not 100% in the game.

The second time, he wasn't distracted by his doubts.  He was fighting for the sake of his people, and perhaps the survival of the entire world. 

And he conquered.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 19, 2018, 08:39:56 pm
Just like Rocky 3. Lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 19, 2018, 08:46:54 pm
The reason T'Challa lost his first bout against Killmonger seemed obvious to me... he was still processing the fact that his father, the great King T'Chaka, killed his own brother and abandoned his nephew (the right move for a good king, perhaps, but not the act of a good man).  And because of that his head was not 100% in the game.

The second time, he wasn't distracted by his doubts.  He was fighting for the sake of his people, and perhaps the survival of the entire world. 

And he conquered.

Agreed!

Just like Rocky 3. Lol

Agreed!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 19, 2018, 09:22:49 pm
But with that said... he tripped Erik up, Erik got back up, then he slashed Erik's face, and then asked Erik to yield?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 19, 2018, 09:33:48 pm
I'm catching the movie later this week, o can't wait. All the stuff talked about here.. I can't wait to get in on this
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 20, 2018, 03:44:28 am
But with that said... he tripped Erik up, Erik got back up, then he slashed Erik's face, and then asked Erik to yield?

I think that was tbe sequence

I remember it being after he cut eric

Future research needed friday lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 20, 2018, 06:12:00 am
So, can we get an MCU tchalla feat list going?

CW:

- Defeats bucky on roof top
- Claws can cut through steel? pipe
- vibranium suit was immune to machine gun fire (any gun nuts know what caliper?)
- lands silently when jumping down building
- peak human fast, as fat as Bucky and Captain America
- enhanced agility in tunnel scene
- claws cut through motor cycle
- takes punch from muder mode Winter Soldier's metal arm outside the suit
- fast and agile enough to catch up to WS
- defeats WS in murder mode outside the suit
- claws can scratch cap's shield
- triple kick showing enhanced leaping ability and agility
- defeats bucky before being stopped by SW
- takes 4? widow stingers but is only slowed down (inside the suit)
- correctly deduces to follow Stark to find Bucky
- glove is bulletproof

BP:

- jumps out of a jet and lands without a sound in the trees
- decimates sex traffikers, including throwing a tire like a baseball and being completely bullet proof
- defeats M'baku in tribal combat without powers
- designed his old vibranium suit
- beats up mooks in casino
- suit is completely bullet proof nad releases stored energy. able to hop car to car effortless
- wall scaling
- rips off tire while in motion
- suit tanks klaws sonic blast
- suit tanks grenade
- suit tanks whatever killmonger shot him with
- survives being cut, beaten, and thrown down a waterfall
- tanks jet crash in suit? or whatever happened lol
- leaps over shield wall, force punches ground, grabs spear in mid air, takes out jet 200ft off the ground
- takes down rhino by the neck
- defeats killmonger with "great move"


what else we got?
-
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Gessela on February 20, 2018, 06:25:34 am
More Observations.

Who are you?
Dora to N’Jobu in the Oakland apartment.
T’Chaka to Zuri in the Oakland apartment.
Romonda to T’Challa (Show them who you are!) at the ‘Warrior Falls’ coronation.
W’Kabi to N’Jakada as he delivers Klaue at the Wakandan border.
N’Jakada to T’Challa (“Ask me who I am”.) in the throne room in front of the council.
Elder to N’Jakada in the throne room in front of the council.
Little boy to T’Challa outside of the Oakland apartment.

This reoccurring question and the responses to it, is an intriguing through line that has levels on levels.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 20, 2018, 06:28:08 am
So, can we get an MCU tchalla feat list going?

CW:

- Defeats bucky on roof top
- Claws can cut through steel? pipe
- vibranium suit was immune to machine gun fire (any gun nuts know what caliper?)
- lands silently when jumping down building
- peak human fast, as fat as Bucky and Captain America
- enhanced agility in tunnel scene
- claws cut through motor cycle
- takes punch from muder mode Winter Soldier's metal arm outside the suit
- fast and agile enough to catch up to WS
- defeats WS in murder mode outside the suit
- claws can scratch cap's shield
- triple kick showing enhanced leaping ability and agility
- defeats bucky before being stopped by SW
- takes 4? widow stingers but is only slowed down (inside the suit)
- correctly deduces to follow Stark to find Bucky
- glove is bulletproof

BP:

- jumps out of a jet and lands without a sound in the trees
- decimates sex traffikers, including throwing a tire like a baseball and being completely bullet proof
- defeats M'baku in tribal combat without powers
- designed his old vibranium suit
- beats up mooks in casino
- suit is completely bullet proof nad releases stored energy. able to hop car to car effortless
- wall scaling
- rips off tire while in motion
- suit tanks klaws sonic blast
- suit tanks grenade
- suit tanks whatever killmonger shot him with
- survives being cut, beaten, and thrown down a waterfall
- tanks jet crash in suit? or whatever happened lol
- leaps over shield wall, force punches ground, grabs spear in mid air, takes out jet 200ft off the ground
- takes down rhino by the neck
- defeats killmonger with "great move"


what else we got?
-

-he tilted and torque'd Shuri's speeding car with one hand
-he convinced Nakia to stay
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 20, 2018, 07:21:11 am
Coogler talks about the infinity stone.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=XKLWC4DgkgI
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 20, 2018, 07:33:28 am
This women speaking the truth. lol

(https://scontent.fric1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/28276323_1794890320813379_1853142831909924101_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoibCJ9&oh=2631a9deaa8d08ad450d69fcf7b9db39&oe=5B1F561F)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 20, 2018, 07:40:18 am
Eh... that isn't fair.

- Killmonger with help from Klaue murdered all the white people in the museum
- Killmonger killed Klaue
- Killmonger killed Zuri
- Killmonger thought he killed T'challa
- Did Killmonger shoot Ross or a cronie?

The reason he killed the DM was because they were the ones that attacked him. In the final scene... only woman attacked him (Doras, Nakia, Shuri) beforeT'challa finally got to him.

So I don't find that really fair... he just happened to be surrounded by a bunch of woman all the time.

Whoever Killmonger was around were possible murder marks for him. He was an equal opportunity murder machine

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 20, 2018, 07:44:25 am
I believe you left out not-Malice (the original, not Nakia), whom he calmly shot through to get Klaue, despite them apparently being in some relationship, tho.

I agree that revolution was not his true motive, however.  Revenge against the world that took his father and his future away from him was.  The world could burn, as far as he was concerned.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 20, 2018, 07:48:02 am
I believe you left out not-Malice (the original, not Nakia), whom he calmly shot through to get Klaue, despite them apparently being in some relationship, tho.

I agree that revolution was not his true motive, however.  Revenge against the world that took his father and his future away from him was.  The world could burn, as far as he was concerned.

yeah, I was just naming people the facebook person didn't name.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 20, 2018, 07:51:22 am
Jesus Bast'ing Christ at these extra fake woke folk e-militant/feminist social media try-hards

Erik kills everybody.  That was his trade, his skill, his -monger.  To kill.  Get it?  Sheesh

Let's just strip context and logic aside and call Erik a self-hating coon out to help the white man bc he killed majority black folks in this movie
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 20, 2018, 07:53:54 am
Did Erik kill a single light-skinned black person in this movie?

No?  Well he's definitely suffering from colorism brought about by the european standard of beauty.  He hates black women and dark skin. #fakewoke
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 20, 2018, 07:55:08 am
Jesus Bast'ing Christ at these extra fake woke folk e-militant/feminist social media try-hards

Erik kills everybody.  That was his trade, his skill, his -monger.  To kill.  Get it?  Sheesh

Let's just strip context and logic aside and call Erik a self-hating coon out to help the white man bc he killed majority black folks in this movie

eric even murdered plants!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 20, 2018, 08:10:02 am
Jesus Bast'ing Christ at these extra fake woke folk e-militant/feminist social media try-hards

Erik kills everybody.  That was his trade, his skill, his -monger.  To kill.  Get it?  Sheesh

Let's just strip context and logic aside and call Erik a self-hating coon out to help the white man bc he killed majority black folks in this movie


eric even murdered plants!


(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Baseball-Player-Tries-To-Hold-In-The-Laughter-During-Zoom.gif)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 20, 2018, 08:17:11 am
Y-y-y-ou mean he's a HERBIPHOBE?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 20, 2018, 08:21:34 am
Killmonger in a nutshell

(https://i.imgur.com/vdLE8dJ.gif)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 20, 2018, 09:13:01 am
Sounds like the FB poster is reaching, I mean when your taking over in an uprising you take out whoever is attacking.
Now if he was shown only killing or attacking women through out the entire movie then they may have a Point. Otherwise, like MM said fake woke tryhards
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 20, 2018, 09:16:24 am
From what I've been seeing, the "woke" community loves Killmonger because they thought he would be the black liverator. They upset that BP stopped his plans. Lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 20, 2018, 09:31:42 am
Quote
Disney has just confirmed what we saw earlier: Marvel’s Black Panther is the second-biggest 4-day opener of all-time at the domestic B.O. with $241.96M, after Force Awakens ($288M) and beating Star Wars: Last Jedi ($241.6M). Monday also marked an all-time record with $40.167M, beating Force Awakens‘ $40.11M (Dec. 21, 2015). Black Panther also posted the second best Sunday ever at the domestic B.O. with $60.096M behind Forces Awakens ($60.5M).

holy moly
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 20, 2018, 09:37:09 am
I will be interested in seeing how the studios react to this.  Will they understand WHY the movie did well, or just flood the market with poorly-crafted movies that only superficially resemble BP?

(Personally, I suspect the latter, but I'm a cynic. ;) )
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 20, 2018, 09:48:03 am
Damn... final numbers are in...

We did it

We da best
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 20, 2018, 10:04:08 am
I will be interested in seeing how the studios react to this.  Will they understand WHY the movie did well, or just flood the market with poorly-crafted movies that only superficially resemble BP?

(Personally, I suspect the latter, but I'm a cynic. ;) )

I'm waiting for the SyFy channels' B-Movie clone of BP.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 20, 2018, 10:13:51 am
I will be interested in seeing how the studios react to this.  Will they understand WHY the movie did well, or just flood the market with poorly-crafted movies that only superficially resemble BP?

(Personally, I suspect the latter, but I'm a cynic. ;) )


Blue Marvel movie would work perfectly
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: JRCarter on February 20, 2018, 11:12:20 am
https://www.theroot.com/killmonger-was-wrong-and-ya-ll-know-it-1823134207/amp (https://www.theroot.com/killmonger-was-wrong-and-ya-ll-know-it-1823134207/amp)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on February 20, 2018, 12:57:21 pm
I will be interested in seeing how the studios react to this.  Will they understand WHY the movie did well, or just flood the market with poorly-crafted movies that only superficially resemble BP?

(Personally, I suspect the latter, but I'm a cynic. ;) )

I'm waiting for the SyFy channels' B-Movie clone of BP.

Me too I enjoy Syfy half crappy movies lol..
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on February 20, 2018, 12:57:54 pm
This women speaking the truth. lol

(https://scontent.fric1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/28276323_1794890320813379_1853142831909924101_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoibCJ9&oh=2631a9deaa8d08ad450d69fcf7b9db39&oe=5B1F561F)

The joy of feminist nonsense..
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 20, 2018, 01:09:00 pm
I will be interested in seeing how the studios react to this.  Will they understand WHY the movie did well, or just flood the market with poorly-crafted movies that only superficially resemble BP?

(Personally, I suspect the latter, but I'm a cynic. ;) )


Blue Marvel movie would work perfectly

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l3q2SaisWTeZnV9wk/giphy.gif)

The original Mr. Soliloquies himself

aka

Black Superman.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 20, 2018, 01:19:47 pm
I will be interested in seeing how the studios react to this.  Will they understand WHY the movie did well, or just flood the market with poorly-crafted movies that only superficially resemble BP?

(Personally, I suspect the latter, but I'm a cynic. ;) )


Blue Marvel movie would work perfectly

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l3q2SaisWTeZnV9wk/giphy.gif)

The original Mr. Soliloquies himself

aka

Black Superman.

set in past so you don't have to fit him in anywhere

show DC how you make a real superman power level's movie

civil rights stuff writes itself.

have him fly off to go on vacation with Uatu at the end and you don't have to explain where he was when Thanos came around.

dont have him give lectures, have him punch people really hard lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on February 20, 2018, 01:24:14 pm
I will be interested in seeing how the studios react to this.  Will they understand WHY the movie did well, or just flood the market with poorly-crafted movies that only superficially resemble BP?

(Personally, I suspect the latter, but I'm a cynic. ;) )


Blue Marvel movie would work perfectly

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l3q2SaisWTeZnV9wk/giphy.gif)

The original Mr. Soliloquies himself

aka

Black Superman.


I will be interested in seeing how the studios react to this.  Will they understand WHY the movie did well, or just flood the market with poorly-crafted movies that only superficially resemble BP?

(Personally, I suspect the latter, but I'm a cynic. ;) )


Blue Marvel movie would work perfectly

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l3q2SaisWTeZnV9wk/giphy.gif)

The original Mr. Soliloquies himself

aka

Black Superman.


Very tru just have to fix/level out the problematic elements that both KG & AE introduced..
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 20, 2018, 01:31:14 pm
I will be interested in seeing how the studios react to this.  Will they understand WHY the movie did well, or just flood the market with poorly-crafted movies that only superficially resemble BP?

(Personally, I suspect the latter, but I'm a cynic. ;) )


Blue Marvel movie would work perfectly

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l3q2SaisWTeZnV9wk/giphy.gif)

The original Mr. Soliloquies himself

aka

Black Superman.

set in past so you don't have to fit him in anywhere

show DC how you make a real superman power level's movie

civil rights stuff writes itself.

have him fly off to go on vacation with Uatu at the end and you don't have to explain where he was when Thanos came around.

dont have him give lectures, have him punch people really hard lol

Do we keep the part when the President asked him to quit when the public found out he was black.

That is kinda up there with people wanting Icon, but they dont know he is a conservative republican.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on February 20, 2018, 01:32:20 pm
I will be interested in seeing how the studios react to this.  Will they understand WHY the movie did well, or just flood the market with poorly-crafted movies that only superficially resemble BP?

(Personally, I suspect the latter, but I'm a cynic. ;) )


Blue Marvel movie would work perfectly

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l3q2SaisWTeZnV9wk/giphy.gif)

The original Mr. Soliloquies himself

aka

Black Superman.

set in past so you don't have to fit him in anywhere

show DC how you make a real superman power level's movie

civil rights stuff writes itself.

have him fly off to go on vacation with Uatu at the end and you don't have to explain where he was when Thanos came around.

dont have him give lectures, have him punch people really hard lol

Do we keep the part when the President asked him to quit when the public found out he was black.

That is kinda up there with people wanting Icon, but they dont know he is a conservative republican.

Yes but you change it around some..
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 20, 2018, 01:36:50 pm
Can we make his wife not be a blue-eyed blonde white woman secret agent sent to successfully spy on him because of the believed perception of the negro's primal desire for white women?  ???

Or is that too important a detail to change?  ???


 ???
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on February 20, 2018, 01:44:40 pm
Can we make his wife not be a blue-eyed blonde white woman secret agent sent to successfully spy on him because of the believed perception of the negro's primal desire for white women?  ???

Or is that too important a detail to change?  ???


 ???

That right Their is problematic plot Point number one lol..

And they want the character have any chance of mainstream immediate success and that s*** gots to go quick fast and in a hurry.. closest day can get is a white passing black woman which would actually be an interesting story...

Next the half ass handling of his children

Then all the talk & lack of action they had him doing...
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 20, 2018, 01:46:22 pm
Can we make his wife not be a blue-eyed blonde white woman secret agent sent to successfully spy on him because of the believed perception of the negro's primal desire for white women?  ???

Or is that too important a detail to change?  ???


 ???

How about the way they spy on the Bradly family. Always having agents outside the house and following him?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 20, 2018, 01:59:38 pm
Can we make his wife not be a blue-eyed blonde white woman secret agent sent to successfully spy on him because of the believed perception of the negro's primal desire for white women?  ???

Or is that too important a detail to change?  ???


 ???

That right Their is problematic plot Point number one lol..

And they want the character have any chance of mainstream immediate success and that s*** gots to go quick fast and in a hurry.. closest day can get is a white passing black woman which would actually be an interesting story...

Next the half ass handling of his children

Then all the talk & lack of action they had him doing...

Also, 45% of BP viewing audience were women, who came out in droves because of word of mouth of strong heroic women. 

I think the Lois Lane/Pepper Potts days are done-ski

Blue Marvel doesn't have that going for him either

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 20, 2018, 02:08:55 pm
Can we make his wife not be a blue-eyed blonde white woman secret agent sent to successfully spy on him because of the believed perception of the negro's primal desire for white women?  ???

Or is that too important a detail to change?  ???


 ???

How about the way they spy on the Bradly family. Always having agents outside the house and following him?

I think homeboy might need to just be completely revamped.  Luke Cage and Black Lightning are already gonna be milking the black American experience stuff.  BP is BP, and everything that comes with it.

So Blue Marvel is basically a more sober Hancock without the Fresh Prince charm in a period piece about ppl calling him the n-word and him kinda sticks n stoning his way past it with his Rebecca, b4 he takes his ball and leaves forever... until present day

Damn
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on February 20, 2018, 02:12:35 pm
Can we make his wife not be a blue-eyed blonde white woman secret agent sent to successfully spy on him because of the believed perception of the negro's primal desire for white women?  ???

Or is that too important a detail to change?  ???


 ???

That right Their is problematic plot Point number one lol..

And they want the character have any chance of mainstream immediate success and that s*** gots to go quick fast and in a hurry.. closest day can get is a white passing black woman which would actually be an interesting story...

Next the half ass handling of his children

Then all the talk & lack of action they had him doing...

Also, 45% of BP viewing audience were women, who came out in droves because of word of mouth of strong heroic women. 

I think the Lois Lane/Pepper Potts days are done-ski

Blue Marvel doesn't have that going for him either



Black light skin ( possible white passing) secret agent it is

Ruth Negga or Maya Rudolph or Rashida "problematic" Jones or Troian Avery Bellisario or Amber Dawn West for the win..
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on February 20, 2018, 02:18:03 pm
Can we make his wife not be a blue-eyed blonde white woman secret agent sent to successfully spy on him because of the believed perception of the negro's primal desire for white women?  ???

Or is that too important a detail to change?  ???


 ???

How about the way they spy on the Bradly family. Always having agents outside the house and following him?

I think homeboy might need to just be completely revamped.  Luke Cage and Black Lightning are already gonna be milking the black American experience stuff.  BP is BP, and everything that comes with it.

So Blue Marvel is basically a more sober Hancock without the Fresh Prince charm in a period piece about ppl calling him the n-word and him kinda sticks n stoning his way past it with his Rebecca, b4 he takes his ball and leaves forever... until present day

Damn

They got 2 change the reasons behind him quit because hes a good soldier & the white man/president told him to because it'll be better overall for black people.. you got to have them threatening to snipe his grandprents, drown his brother, run over his mother, kidnap his sister, frame his dad, recondition/brainwash his cousins.. Gotta be some some hard hitting hidden stuff
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 20, 2018, 03:36:21 pm
Every comic characte has problematic sh*t, especialky Every minority comic character out there would need fixed

They fixed falcon
They fixed cage
They fixed tchalla...  wasnt hanging aroubd 16 year old girls and there wasnt a single crack rock around or white dudes narrating.

The premise of black dude in 60s with supes power level and a genius is something a coogler type could do something with


Just have him kill the ba guy by pushing them both through some dimensional space portal and he disappears into legend

(Until tchalla finds him in black panther 4)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 20, 2018, 08:37:53 pm
Every comic characte has problematic sh*t, especialky Every minority comic character out there would need fixed

They fixed falcon
They fixed cage
They fixed tchalla...  wasnt hanging aroubd 16 year old girls and there wasnt a single crack rock around or white dudes narrating.

The premise of black dude in 60s with supes power level and a genius is something a coogler type could do something with


Just have him kill the ba guy by pushing them both through some dimensional space portal and he disappears into legend

(Until tchalla finds him in black panther 4)

Hmm... fair point.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on February 21, 2018, 12:51:17 am
Every comic characte has problematic sh*t, especialky Every minority comic character out there would need fixed

They fixed falcon
They fixed cage
They fixed tchalla...  wasnt hanging aroubd 16 year old girls and there wasnt a single crack rock around or white dudes narrating.

The premise of black dude in 60s with supes power level and a genius is something a coogler type could do something with


Just have him kill the ba guy by pushing them both through some dimensional space portal and he disappears into legend

(Until tchalla finds him in black panther 4)

While I wouldn't say Falcon got fix perfer say ( speaking in terms of the comic & movie version, the current cartoon version if the best he's probably ever will be).. I most definitely agree ..  Just need someone closer to a Ryan C & not a TNC that's really the key defense.. Their whole bunch well meaning talented creators out here but many need up misplace on a project or ideas while well meaning more than likely end up being tone deaf, disingenuous, racist, problematic and nonsensical..
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Booshman on February 21, 2018, 03:57:44 am
Can we make his wife not be a blue-eyed blonde white woman secret agent sent to successfully spy on him because of the believed perception of the negro's primal desire for white women?  ???

Or is that too important a detail to change?  ???


 ???

I'd just change it so her boss was holding her hostage. Make it so if she didn't accept his assignment that he'd expose her father because of an old grudge, bankrupt her brother, kick out her illegal migrant mother, etc..etc...

Which would cause BM's wife to be mad at him and her situation, until she accepted her lot in life. Which would add another layer to her, since she has to be undercover. It could also set her boss up as an antagonist down the line, for when BM returns.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 21, 2018, 05:07:00 am
Y'all crushin my Blue Marvel idea ain't bringing anything else to the table!

Falcon is a sidekick and has no superpowers.
Cage is doing his thing in Netflix
Rhodey... let's not talk about Rhodey
Mr. Foster is in Ant-Man it seems.
Valkryie is a sidekick
Cloak is lost to freeform

You poo poo'd my Black Marvel genius idea! Imagine BM by the Dope director that wanted to make the Flash movie a BLM/police thingy!

So who is up next?

Voodoo- I don't see Marvel making Voodoo anything other than a Strange sidekick. Voodoo could work set in some backwoods south sh*t with different type of voodoo magic than Strange but we know damn well he is destined to buddyland. Mordo needs a replacement!

Nighthawk- this could work on Netflix IF IF IF they went all in and had the balls to do it. But, Netflix marvel is done for so that means disney streaming and... yeah that ain't gonna work. Nighthawk on the big screen? I just can't see it as MCU doesn't seem to want to mess with street level stuff much.

Monica- let's be honest, you would basically be taking her powerset and creating everything else around her. Basically a new character. Could just make her BM's wife/sidekick...........

Storm- hehehhehehehehehehehheheeheheheh

Racebent Moon Knight

Blade- the correct answer.

Blade leads the Midnight Sons- another correct answer- consisting of Blade, Voodoo, Morbius, Ghost Rider, and friends

(https://m.popkey.co/f7a153/K6RMp.gif)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 21, 2018, 05:13:11 am
Coogler on why no Bucky in the movie...

Quote
"[A Bucky scene] was something that was always—it was a Shuri thing, because in our world we kind of figured that Bucky Barnes would be her assignment. We kind of drop the hint at that when they bring Ross in and she’s like, ‘Oh another one.’ So we dropped hints in there, but what we kind of decided was that her cracking his mental code, if Shuri’s as smart as she is, that wouldn’t really be a big problem.

"But Bucky would have horrible PTSD, he would need spiritual guidance. The last thing he would need to do is jump into that Civil War, and so that was kind of the thought process there. And it could be potentially problematic if it’s a bunch of Africans fighting and you bring in a White dude, he comes in shootin’ people (laughs). We were aware of that. Bucky’s not trained to neutralize people peacefully, he’s an assassin…"
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 21, 2018, 05:19:45 am
Coogler on why no Bucky in the movie...

Quote
"[A Bucky scene] was something that was always—it was a Shuri thing, because in our world we kind of figured that Bucky Barnes would be her assignment. We kind of drop the hint at that when they bring Ross in and she’s like, ‘Oh another one.’ So we dropped hints in there, but what we kind of decided was that her cracking his mental code, if Shuri’s as smart as she is, that wouldn’t really be a big problem.

"But Bucky would have horrible PTSD, he would need spiritual guidance. The last thing he would need to do is jump into that Civil War, and so that was kind of the thought process there. And it could be potentially problematic if it’s a bunch of Africans fighting and you bring in a White dude, he comes in shootin’ people (laughs). We were aware of that. Bucky’s not trained to neutralize people peacefully, he’s an assassin…"

So a co-worker went to see the movie (loved it), but asked me:

He and his group that saw the movie were wondering if that last scene was indicating something romantic between Bucky and Shuri.  (I have to admit that thought passed through my head too for a moment.)

Anyone else wondered that?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 21, 2018, 05:23:46 am
Coogler on why no Bucky in the movie...

Quote
"[A Bucky scene] was something that was always—it was a Shuri thing, because in our world we kind of figured that Bucky Barnes would be her assignment. We kind of drop the hint at that when they bring Ross in and she’s like, ‘Oh another one.’ So we dropped hints in there, but what we kind of decided was that her cracking his mental code, if Shuri’s as smart as she is, that wouldn’t really be a big problem.

"But Bucky would have horrible PTSD, he would need spiritual guidance. The last thing he would need to do is jump into that Civil War, and so that was kind of the thought process there. And it could be potentially problematic if it’s a bunch of Africans fighting and you bring in a White dude, he comes in shootin’ people (laughs). We were aware of that. Bucky’s not trained to neutralize people peacefully, he’s an assassin…"

So a co-worker went to see the movie (loved it), but asked me:

He and his group that saw the movie were wondering if that last scene was indicating something romantic between Bucky and Shuri.  (I have to admit that thought passed through my head too for a moment.)

Anyone else wondered that?

Absolutely not.

She's 16.. he is 30+ going on 90 lol

She is his doctor and therapist and bucky is her really interesting science project basically. I doubt she gets to rewire an international assasin's brain very often lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 21, 2018, 05:33:56 am
Once, twice a week, tops. :)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 21, 2018, 06:07:54 am
Shuri's 16? Where was that said?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 21, 2018, 06:10:48 am
She's 16? Where was that said?

It's not mentioned in the movie, but....

https://screenrant.com/black-panther-sister-shuri-smarter-tony-stark/
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 21, 2018, 06:27:09 am
http://news.abs-cbn.com/life/02/21/18/black-panther-toy-sales-fierce-as-film-opens-big (http://news.abs-cbn.com/life/02/21/18/black-panther-toy-sales-fierce-as-film-opens-big)


'Black Panther' toy sales fierce as film opens big


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NEW YORK -- Panther claws, masks and action figures are leaping off store shelves after runaway hit "Black Panther" -- the first film in the Marvel universe focused on a black superhero -- shredded box office expectations with a massive opening weekend.

Toys and accessories linked to the movie, which is also making waves for its strong black female leading roles, have the potential to become an enduring presence in stores, like Spider-Man and other iconic figures, company executives say.

Toy tie-ins are a crucial profit driver for movie studios, even if each merchandise opportunity is not massively successful, experts say.


"It is a huge opportunity," John Frascotti, president of US toy giant Hasbro, told AFP on the sidelines of the giant Toy Fair trade show in New York.

"We're still in the early days of this, but it certainly has all the indications that it could be over time as successful" as other major franchises in terms of staying power, he said.

The movie pulled in an impressive $242 million in its opening weekend, a record for this time of year following strong reviews.
"It's just surpassed expectations," said Mark Robben, marketing director for Funko, which sells Black Panther bobble heads, plush dolls and fashion.

"It's an important movie culturally," Robben said. "That is then translated into people wanting to own a piece of it for their desk or for a t-shirt they're wearing."

The film has generated huge enthusiasm within the black community, but also more broadly -- many see the strong opening weekend as a sign that audiences will embrace heroes that don't fit the cookie cutter model if the story is well told.

"I think it's filling a void, it's serving a need and it will sell accordingly, and not just with African Americans," said Kimberly Mosley, president of the American Specialty Toy Retailing Association.

People "are looking for a hero," she said.


Well this is nice.


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Toys don't always boom

"Black Panther" comes less than a year after "Wonder Woman," another big superhero movie that went against the grain, and upended the long-held idea that a female superhero couldn't attract a large audience.

But while "Wonder Woman" did well in theaters, the film's toys -- made by Mattel -- were not especially hot sellers.

"There's been a trend around movie franchises and not all of them are seeing the uptick in toy sales that they used to see," said Michelle Chidoni, vice president of global brand communications at Mattel.

Chidoni said the Wonder Woman offerings in its "Super Hero Girls" series performed well. The character's long-term value had been enhanced by the movie and further boosted by the availability of the movie on streaming services.

"The toy doesn't always perform with the theatrical release like it used to," she said. "Sometimes it's now performing better when it goes on Netflix, or when it streams, when it's more available to the mass consumer."

Hasbro came under scrutiny in the most recent quarter after reporting a steep drop in fourth-quarter revenues connected to its movie licensing business that raised questions about whether the "Star Wars" juggernaut was losing its luster.

But Frascotti said the figures for merchandise linked to last year's "The Last Jedi" looked worse by comparison because the company launched the tie-in products early.

That strategy had made sense in 2015 with "The Force Awakens," given the significant anticipation for the first big release in the franchise in many years.

Frascotti said "Star Wars" nevertheless remains "very strong," and the most sought after franchise in entertainment, and that the company would release toys with a shorter lead time ahead of future movies.


This is interesting.


Quote
Broad appeal

With "Black Panther," Hasbro unveiled a significant line of products about six weeks ahead of the movie's premiere and plans more items, such as a collector's black mask on display at Toy Fair.

The current slate of offerings come at different price points, with more affordable and durable models geared towards kids and more detailed figures targeting collectors.

Frascotti expects "Black Panther" items to sell widely, irrespective of race or gender.

"Kids today don't see the world along those lines as much as adults do," he said. "When you look at the world through the eyes of the young kids who love these characters, I don't think color or gender is as big an issue."

He noted that "Star Wars" characters like Rey, the intrepid female protagonist introduced in "The Force Awakens," has sold well with boys and girls.

The release of new items will be timed to coincide with the film's launch on streaming platforms or the holidays. Frascotti said those could be supplemented at other times, such as back to school, depending on demand.


This will be book marked for future follow up
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 21, 2018, 06:37:05 am
Y'all crushin my Blue Marvel idea ain't bringing anything else to the table!

Falcon is a sidekick and has no superpowers.
Cage is doing his thing in Netflix
Rhodey... let's not talk about Rhodey
Mr. Foster is in Ant-Man it seems.
Valkryie is a sidekick
Cloak is lost to freeform

You poo poo'd my Black Marvel genius idea! Imagine BM by the Dope director that wanted to make the Flash movie a BLM/police thingy!

So who is up next?

Voodoo- I don't see Marvel making Voodoo anything other than a Strange sidekick. Voodoo could work set in some backwoods south sh*t with different type of voodoo magic than Strange but we know damn well he is destined to buddyland. Mordo needs a replacement!

Nighthawk- this could work on Netflix IF IF IF they went all in and had the balls to do it. But, Netflix marvel is done for so that means disney streaming and... yeah that ain't gonna work. Nighthawk on the big screen? I just can't see it as MCU doesn't seem to want to mess with street level stuff much.

Monica- let's be honest, you would basically be taking her powerset and creating everything else around her. Basically a new character. Could just make her BM's wife/sidekick...........

Storm- hehehhehehehehehehehheheeheheheh

Racebent Moon Knight

Blade- the correct answer.

Blade leads the Midnight Sons- another correct answer- consisting of Blade, Voodoo, Morbius, Ghost Rider, and friends

(https://m.popkey.co/f7a153/K6RMp.gif)

Captain Universe, of course ;)

Pie sales would go through the roof.  Pumpkin pie, apple pie, blueberry pie..
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 21, 2018, 06:38:47 am
WW kinda f*cked up because there were no toys for boys to buy. WW came from an island of woman, Trevor had no powers, and Ares looked stupid AF lol


I mean, that can't really be said in "BOYS CAN PLAY WITH GIRLS TOYS TOO!!!" twitter world but......

I have two boys and they don't have nor want a single girl action figure. or car. I have boxes and boxes of toys and the only girls in those boxes are Owelette from PJ Mask (there are only three so you get to girl to complete the trio... and none of them run around the house pretending they are owellete), Skye and Artic from paw patrol, and a potato head black widow that an aunt gave them (played with less than potato head Cap and IM).

BP, in comparison, gave options to both boys and girls. and Rhinos. And a Panther transformer that turns into a jet.

And, likely important as well... t'challa can be completely covered in outfit. Remember when Peter Parker fans say one of the reasons they love peter is that he is completely covered and anyone could be under that mask including them? Have they been around to state that same logic for BP or.....

...



Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 21, 2018, 06:39:47 am


Captain Universe, of course ;)

Pie sales would go through the roof.  Pumpkin pie, apple pie, blueberry pie..

Man, I wish I could have edited Hickman's run lol

"ok and I have a walking deus ex machina with no development other than pie"

"take it out now" lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Vic Vega on February 21, 2018, 08:11:33 am
Finally got to see it yesterday (I still don't do the online ticket buying thing and it cost me this time).

I expected the movie to be really good. I really didn't expect it to be as good as it was with great performances all across
the board.

So good in fact, that my co-worker who gives zero craps about Marvel comics or MCU films has been raving about it since the
day she saw it.

Marvel has gotten better about letting its directors have an authorial vision but Coogler's Black Panther gets to actually say something about families and indebtedness among Africans and African Americans.

It also does quiet moments really well which you do not see often in Blockbuster films.

This is an amazing thing to see: not just the movie itself (which we expected to be a big deal)but the movie's effect on people who aren't your typical comic book folk.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 21, 2018, 09:56:07 am
Quote
Black Panther scored the second best 4 day opening of all-time with $242 million and then had the best Monday ever at the domestic box office but did it do yesterday? Well, it probably won't surprise you to learn that the Marvel Studios movie also had the best pre-summer Tuesday take too, topping last year's Beauty and the Beast and beating The Avengers' $17.6 million with a cool $21.07 million.

Star Wars: The Force Awakens holds the all-time Tuesday record with $37.3 million but Black Panther's current five-day haul is $263.2 million, a whopping amount which it took nine days for The Avengers to reach back in 2012. Now, it's thought that the Ryan Coogler helmed release will pass $300 million domestically by Friday and it should earn $104 million to $109 million during its second weekend.

Some analysts believe that Black Panther will ultimately earn more domestically than The Avengers, a feat which would make it North America's highest grossing superhero movie of all-time. We'll have to wait and see whether or not that happens but it's entirely feasible and it's going to be very interesting seeing if Avengers: Infinity War can top T'Challa's solo adventure. For that, we'll have to wait and see.


Whew boy
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 21, 2018, 10:16:42 am
T'Challa transcends comics and impacts peoples lives who aren't comic readers. Can anyone bane a time in which ALL of the US and 30 other countries donated over 300k to help young kids see a movie? This is what makes Tchalla different from your standard run of the mill Hero
 He had unique value that hasn't been tapped into as much as it should of and that is why he is breaking records
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 21, 2018, 10:30:42 am
WW kinda f*cked up because there were no toys for boys to buy. WW came from an island of woman, Trevor had no powers, and Ares looked stupid AF lol


I mean, that can't really be said in "BOYS CAN PLAY WITH GIRLS TOYS TOO!!!" twitter world but......

I have two boys and they don't have nor want a single girl action figure. or car. I have boxes and boxes of toys and the only girls in those boxes are Owelette from PJ Mask (there are only three so you get to girl to complete the trio... and none of them run around the house pretending they are owellete), Skye and Artic from paw patrol, and a potato head black widow that an aunt gave them (played with less than potato head Cap and IM).

BP, in comparison, gave options to both boys and girls. and Rhinos. And a Panther transformer that turns into a jet.

And, likely important as well... t'challa can be completely covered in outfit. Remember when Peter Parker fans say one of the reasons they love peter is that he is completely covered and anyone could be under that mask including them? Have they been around to state that same logic for BP or.....

...

Toys and merch runs everything, after box office numbers and dvd sales.

So when it comes to the latter, Wonder Woman is a bit overstated but its understandable bc "first female..." etc etc.  So her 100 million is graded on the curve that it wasn't supposed to sell that well b/c "she's a woman and women don't sell".

Black Panther's 202 million / 242 million, that just established the new standard for the entire industry.  No qualifiers, no on a curve, that's flat out saying "Batman, Spider-Man, Iron Man... Wassup?"

With the former, merch, that'll decide everything else.  Spider-man is overrated in a sense that Iron Man kills him in the box office, but it's still Spider-Man's world in merch.  We just need BP's ish to continue to sell
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 21, 2018, 10:38:05 am
WW kinda f*cked up because there were no toys for boys to buy. WW came from an island of woman, Trevor had no powers, and Ares looked stupid AF lol


I mean, that can't really be said in "BOYS CAN PLAY WITH GIRLS TOYS TOO!!!" twitter world but......

I have two boys and they don't have nor want a single girl action figure. or car. I have boxes and boxes of toys and the only girls in those boxes are Owelette from PJ Mask (there are only three so you get to girl to complete the trio... and none of them run around the house pretending they are owellete), Skye and Artic from paw patrol, and a potato head black widow that an aunt gave them (played with less than potato head Cap and IM).

BP, in comparison, gave options to both boys and girls. and Rhinos. And a Panther transformer that turns into a jet.

And, likely important as well... t'challa can be completely covered in outfit. Remember when Peter Parker fans say one of the reasons they love peter is that he is completely covered and anyone could be under that mask including them? Have they been around to state that same logic for BP or.....

...


Toys and merch runs everything, after box office numbers and dvd sales.

So when it comes to the latter, Wonder Woman is a bit overstated but its understandable bc "first female..." etc etc.  So her 100 million is graded on the curve that it wasn't supposed to sell that well b/c "she's a woman and women don't sell".

Black Panther's 202 million / 242 million, that just established the new standard for the entire industry.  No qualifiers, no on a curve, that's flat out saying "Batman, Spider-Man, Iron Man... Wassup?"

With the former, merch, that'll decide everything else.  Spider-man is overrated in a sense that Iron Man kills him in the box office, but it's still Spider-Man's world in merch.  We just need BP's ish to continue to sell


Toy wise, one thing I was disappointed in was the lack of toddler age toys.

Those Playschool things...

(http://www.jwineeded.com/ebay/3.jpg)

Spider-Man and Batman (batman imaginext) DOMINATE that market.

There weren't any BP toys for that age group.

I also want this next christmas...

(https://i.marvelousnews.com/g/generated/Hasbro/Spider-Man_Homecoming_Toys/MARVEL%20SPIDER-MAN%20MEGA%20CITY%20PLAYSET__scaled_600.jpg)

but warrior falls/palace/mine instead
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Rise Above on February 21, 2018, 11:53:25 am
Hello fellow Wakandans, this is my first post, but full disclosure, I’ve lurked here and CBR for years off and on. That said, this film was so amazing, I’ve decided it’s time to join the conversation. Everything was on point, the cast,costumes,cinematography,score,original soundtrack, all excellent. I happily await that 4 hour director’s cut with commentary
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 21, 2018, 11:54:27 am
Hello fellow Wakandans, this is my first post, but full disclosure, I’ve lurked here and CBR for years off and on. That said, this film was so amazing, I’ve decided it’s time to join the conversation. Everything was on point, the cast,costumes,cinematography,score,original soundtrack, all excellent. I happily await that 4 hour director’s cut with commentary

welcome!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Gessela on February 21, 2018, 12:48:44 pm
I took my Mom to a matinee, my 3rd time now, and it gets better with each viewing. Another observation, Coogler’s got the world throwing up the ‘Crook & Flail’ (Heka and Nekhakha) screaming Wakanda forever. That is all.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 21, 2018, 12:56:41 pm
WW kinda f*cked up because there were no toys for boys to buy. WW came from an island of woman, Trevor had no powers, and Ares looked stupid AF lol


I mean, that can't really be said in "BOYS CAN PLAY WITH GIRLS TOYS TOO!!!" twitter world but......

I have two boys and they don't have nor want a single girl action figure. or car. I have boxes and boxes of toys and the only girls in those boxes are Owelette from PJ Mask (there are only three so you get to girl to complete the trio... and none of them run around the house pretending they are owellete), Skye and Artic from paw patrol, and a potato head black widow that an aunt gave them (played with less than potato head Cap and IM).

BP, in comparison, gave options to both boys and girls. and Rhinos. And a Panther transformer that turns into a jet.

And, likely important as well... t'challa can be completely covered in outfit. Remember when Peter Parker fans say one of the reasons they love peter is that he is completely covered and anyone could be under that mask including them? Have they been around to state that same logic for BP or.....

...


Toys and merch runs everything, after box office numbers and dvd sales.

So when it comes to the latter, Wonder Woman is a bit overstated but its understandable bc "first female..." etc etc.  So her 100 million is graded on the curve that it wasn't supposed to sell that well b/c "she's a woman and women don't sell".

Black Panther's 202 million / 242 million, that just established the new standard for the entire industry.  No qualifiers, no on a curve, that's flat out saying "Batman, Spider-Man, Iron Man... Wassup?"

With the former, merch, that'll decide everything else.  Spider-man is overrated in a sense that Iron Man kills him in the box office, but it's still Spider-Man's world in merch.  We just need BP's ish to continue to sell


Toy wise, one thing I was disappointed in was the lack of toddler age toys.

Those Playschool things...

([url]http://www.jwineeded.com/ebay/3.jpg[/url])

Spider-Man and Batman (batman imaginext) DOMINATE that market.

There weren't any BP toys for that age group.

I also want this next christmas...

([url]https://i.marvelousnews.com/g/generated/Hasbro/Spider-Man_Homecoming_Toys/MARVEL%20SPIDER-MAN%20MEGA%20CITY%20PLAYSET__scaled_600.jpg[/url])

but warrior falls/palace/mine instead


I'm hoping the black kids take a liking to him.  All kids, sure [with the same logic people like to give masked spider-man], but the black kids in particular.  That would be a driving force.  Self-sustaining
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 21, 2018, 12:57:24 pm
Hello fellow Wakandans, this is my first post, but full disclosure, I’ve lurked here and CBR for years off and on. That said, this film was so amazing, I’ve decided it’s time to join the conversation. Everything was on point, the cast,costumes,cinematography,score,original soundtrack, all excellent. I happily await that 4 hour director’s cut with commentary

Welcome to the [Techno] Jungle!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 21, 2018, 04:16:29 pm
Box Office: ‘Black Panther’ Claws Highest Tuesday Gross for MCU Film

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/black-panther-box-office-highest-tuesday-mcu-1202706436/ (http://variety.com/2018/film/news/black-panther-box-office-highest-tuesday-mcu-1202706436/)

21 million Tuesday.

Oh my Bast we did

[again] 
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 21, 2018, 08:08:00 pm


Captain Universe, of course ;)

Pie sales would go through the roof.  Pumpkin pie, apple pie, blueberry pie..

Man, I wish I could have edited Hickman's run lol

"ok and I have a walking deus ex machina with no development other than pie"

"take it out now" lol

I was listening to a random youtube podcast on the way home and a lady was talking about how Jessica Jones is cool because not every woman has to be comparable to Wonder Woman to get a platform. 

And i thought back to earlier today and i was like, you know what cotdamn it, not every black hero has to be comparable to Black Panther.

I've changed my stance, let's get a Nighthawk vs Blue Marvel: Dawn of Blackness movie cotdamn it!
Sneak in 15 minutes of Spectrum for good measure  8)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 21, 2018, 08:17:25 pm
Everybody read this. Now

Quote
"It's important to show a Black relationship and the dynamics of that when the two people in it have very different views," Kaluuya told ESSENCE, adding that he had fun shooting his love scenes with Gurira. "They're already married so you do get a sense of the love they have for each other. As far as storytelling goes, picking up on that love is more important than seeing them smooch."

Gurira agrees but hopes that audiences will get to see the deleted scenes some day.

"Talk to Ryan about getting the DVD extras, girl," Gurira says blushing, "because those are some good scenes

Will We Ever Get To See Those Deleted Black PantherLove Scenes Between Okoye And WKabi?

https://www.essence.com/entertainment/okoye-wkabi-marriage-love-scenes-black-panther?utm_campaign=essence&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=essence_socialflow_twitter (https://www.essence.com/entertainment/okoye-wkabi-marriage-love-scenes-black-panther?utm_campaign=essence&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=essence_socialflow_twitter)

Quote
So in the film it is more than hinted at that they’re a couple, but there is a scene directly after Killmonger takes the throne where you hear both characters articulate their point of view as to why they should or shouldn’t follow this man and it’s one of the most well-acted scenes I’ve ever been a part of.

Unfortunately it occurred at a point in the movie where audiences just wanted to get to the resolution and so it slowed down a part of the movie and we were afraid audiences were checking out. We were also afraid if we took it out we’re going to ruin this movie—‘guys we’re going to ruin this movie; let’s not take it out.’ We didn’t take it out for three or four screenings and we finally took it out and I think Ryan and I were probably the last men on that beach saying don’t take it out.”

https://io9.gizmodo.com/theres-one-black-panther-deleted-scene-ryan-coogler-fou-1823188204 (https://io9.gizmodo.com/theres-one-black-panther-deleted-scene-ryan-coogler-fou-1823188204)

So we're all buying the blue ray with the bonus footage and deleted/extended scenes right?   ???

When that rumored 4 hour og cut coming out  ???
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 21, 2018, 08:27:49 pm
First I need a blu-ray player. :)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 21, 2018, 08:33:52 pm
First I need a blu-ray player. :)

lmao

Always the one-response party pooper  :P ;)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 21, 2018, 08:44:18 pm
First I need a blu-ray player. :)

Yeah, I ditched all my players and DVDs over a year ago. lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 21, 2018, 08:48:11 pm
I have a ps4, that's my blue ray player.

But that's beside the point!  >:(
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 22, 2018, 04:52:20 am
yep im buying, im old school, i only buy physical movie copies. none of that digital stuff
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 22, 2018, 05:11:36 am
First I need a blu-ray player. :)

You're not the only one.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 22, 2018, 05:16:01 am
I was at Target last night.

The BP toys were wiped out. Only thing left were the legends stuff (which for a lot of people are more collectors stuff) and those were in low numbers as well. All the female characters were gone. Only a couple BP ones (which they made more of so makes sense).

They had 0 of the 6inch, 10 dollar figures. No killmonges, neither T'challa. I was bitter... i was gonna buy one to play with the boys lol

I was there a couple days before the movie came out and they were fully stocked.

But the Walmart near my work has zero BP toys. It's nuts... their comic book toy section is so trash. plenty of WWE toys though.

ive never even seen the rhino toys
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 22, 2018, 10:00:40 am
yep im buying, im old school, i only buy physical movie copies. none of that digital stuff

Finally, someone normal.

Or abnormal
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 22, 2018, 10:01:56 am
Comic shop be sold out of BP t-shirts. 

Unacceptable
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Battle on February 22, 2018, 11:09:54 am

Or abnormal




...or abbynormal.*






*a 'Young Frankenstein' reference
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 22, 2018, 11:15:44 am
Comic shop be sold out of BP t-shirts. 

Unacceptable

i've seen one BP shirt int he whole tonw. In Booksamillion. That is it.

no comic shops, nothing at target, nothing at walmart (for adults anyway)

frankly, other than Target and BAM, I have been disappointed in the merch around me.

I haven't been to Toys R Us, because its closing in town so I doutb they got too much new and its really far away.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 22, 2018, 11:49:41 am
Quote

Black Panther is proving itself to be a force to be reckoned with at the box office because the movie earned an impressive $14.5 million at the North American box office on Wednesday, the highest gross on that day for a Marvel Studios movie ever. It tops The Avengers' $13.6 million record and has now grossed $277.5 million domestically since being released last Friday before President's Day weekend.
 
Because of these numbers, Black Panther will cross the $500 million mark at the worldwide box office today and it appears as if the sky is the limit for Marvel's latest movie. It's too soon to say how high it will ultimately go but $1 billion doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility, especially as it should earn another $100 million this weekend and hasn't opened in countries like China or Japan as of yet.

Internationally, Black Panther made $14.5 million for a total of $213.6 million overseas. So far, it's made most of its money in the UK with a whopping $30.4 million. How many times have you watched the Ryan Coogler helmed release? Do you intend on checking it out again this weekend? Let us know your thoughts on that and these latest box office figures in the comments section down below.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/d9d09343ca2e03a496a4236a162b5bd4/tenor.gif?itemid=5052641)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 22, 2018, 12:09:30 pm
I just want it to get to a billion.  And then the cypher will be complete.

Like seriously, that's what i'm obsessed with now.

3-4 weeks ago it was "hmmm hopefully it'll beat deadpool's 3 day and 4 day"

Now its "f*ckk the world, 1 billy or DIE!"

idk what's wrong with me  :-\
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 22, 2018, 12:52:39 pm
I just want it to get to a billion.  And then the cypher will be complete.

Like seriously, that's what i'm obsessed with now.

3-4 weeks ago it was "hmmm hopefully it'll beat deadpool's 3 day and 4 day"

Now its "f*ckk the world, 1 billy or DIE!"

idk what's wrong with me  :-\


Watchin' china like..

(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Suspicious-Fry-Flanders-Leonardo-DiCaprio-Meme-Gif.gif)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 22, 2018, 01:03:30 pm
So yeah, since I was at target and saw all the toys, things I expect this year

- massive amount of black panther halloween costumes
- massive amount of kids tshirts. From 18 year old down to toddlers
- BP toys ALWAYS out. Not just during movie time. Spider-Man always has sh*t. Batman always has sh*t. BP has earned a spot with always having a least a couple action figures out
- black panther ornaments. I was very disappointed I had no ornaments last christmas to choose from at Hallmark.
- Warrior falls giant set for action figures.
- black panther birthday cards and birthday set ups
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 22, 2018, 02:55:34 pm
I can finally talk about this film with you all.

I adore what Coogler gave us 100%. I can't even properly lay out my thoughts rn. I will try tomorrow. I'm just too high rn. The experience at the cinema was something really special. Wakanda forever!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Booshman on February 22, 2018, 04:28:44 pm
Watchin' china like..

([url]http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Suspicious-Fry-Flanders-Leonardo-DiCaprio-Meme-Gif.gif[/url])


LOL! We all are, bro. We all are!

(Stealing that gif, btw.)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Booshman on February 22, 2018, 09:38:31 pm
Finally found the perfect theme song for my mood after watching the movie.

https://youtu.be/OFqeoXFSlms (https://youtu.be/OFqeoXFSlms)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mad Coco G on February 22, 2018, 11:22:55 pm
Everybody read this. Now

Quote
"It's important to show a Black relationship and the dynamics of that when the two people in it have very different views," Kaluuya told ESSENCE, adding that he had fun shooting his love scenes with Gurira. "They're already married so you do get a sense of the love they have for each other. As far as storytelling goes, picking up on that love is more important than seeing them smooch."

Gurira agrees but hopes that audiences will get to see the deleted scenes some day.

"Talk to Ryan about getting the DVD extras, girl," Gurira says blushing, "because those are some good scenes

Will We Ever Get To See Those Deleted Black PantherLove Scenes Between Okoye And WKabi?

https://www.essence.com/entertainment/okoye-wkabi-marriage-love-scenes-black-panther?utm_campaign=essence&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=essence_socialflow_twitter (https://www.essence.com/entertainment/okoye-wkabi-marriage-love-scenes-black-panther?utm_campaign=essence&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=essence_socialflow_twitter)

Quote
So in the film it is more than hinted at that they’re a couple, but there is a scene directly after Killmonger takes the throne where you hear both characters articulate their point of view as to why they should or shouldn’t follow this man and it’s one of the most well-acted scenes I’ve ever been a part of.

Unfortunately it occurred at a point in the movie where audiences just wanted to get to the resolution and so it slowed down a part of the movie and we were afraid audiences were checking out. We were also afraid if we took it out we’re going to ruin this movie—‘guys we’re going to ruin this movie; let’s not take it out.’ We didn’t take it out for three or four screenings and we finally took it out and I think Ryan and I were probably the last men on that beach saying don’t take it out.”

https://io9.gizmodo.com/theres-one-black-panther-deleted-scene-ryan-coogler-fou-1823188204 (https://io9.gizmodo.com/theres-one-black-panther-deleted-scene-ryan-coogler-fou-1823188204)

So we're all buying the blue ray with the bonus footage and deleted/extended scenes right?   ???

When that rumored 4 hour og cut coming out  ???


I preordered it on iTunes which sometimes does come with extras to compete with physical media the day the movie dropped and Best Buy’s website has the steelbook for both standard blu ray and 4K blu ray up for preorder as well which I also preordered.

I’m set
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 23, 2018, 04:38:27 am
I can finally talk about this film with you all.

I adore what Coogler gave us 100%. I can't even properly lay out my thoughts rn. I will try tomorrow. I'm just too high rn. The experience at the cinema was something really special. Wakanda forever!

I am still like that in regards to the blog.

I don't wanna blog about the sh*tty comics coming out because im too high on movie stuff

but I can't get my brain to stop going 100000 miles a minute to focus on one thing lol.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 23, 2018, 06:27:26 am
I can finally talk about this film with you all.

I adore what Coogler gave us 100%. I can't even properly lay out my thoughts rn. I will try tomorrow. I'm just too high rn. The experience at the cinema was something really special. Wakanda forever!

I am still like that in regards to the blog.

I don't wanna blog about the sh*tty comics coming out because im too high on movie stuff

but I can't get my brain to stop going 100000 miles a minute to focus on one thing lol.

I'll try a bit now lol. I didn't expect to have the kind of experience people talked about on Twitter but that's exactly what happened. The showing before mine was packed (snuck into it to towards the middle lol). My showing was packed, and the one after was also packed. About half of us were black and a lot of us including myself wore traditional attire.

As for the movie experience, the whole audience really got into it. I'd seen almost all the money shots in trailers, spots, and clips. But when they came up, all the cheers and screams made me feel like I saw them for the first time again. I went with my friends, and I sat with other guy and the four of us were just fanboying like crazy, especially for T'Challa and Killmonger. There were lots of Nigerians because when the title card came up on the screen for that mission, there were cheers and clapping and lots of commentary from older folks. There were A LOT of older people than usual at my showing and the other ones. The one before mine had a lot of kids, and seeing then come out so excited calling themselves Black Panther and Shuri. The score seriously elevated the film experience as well. You know that horns/trumpet riff that played every time T'Challa was kicking ass? That made people dance in their seats, and the guy beside me kept commenting on the score. The whole theatre erupted in cheers and screams from the entire bit of Killmonger arriving in Wakanda, announcing himself in front of T'Challa and the tribe elders, the battle at Warrior Falls, Erik killing Zuri, beating the crap out of T'Challa and throwing him of the cliff. I knew that was coming as a fan but it even hit me hard just watching it. The score during that moment was chilling. Of course Shuri and M'Baku got all the laughs, and the audience cheered when M'Baku showed up during the final battle. We all clapped when T'Challa came back, showed up as the Black Panther and during his second Astral Plane visit. Lots of "ooohs" during Killmonger's last line. A lot of us stayed throughout the credits. At the end, lots of Wakandan handshakes and someone shouted "Wakanda Forever!"

Such a surreal experience I felt addicted to and need to experience again. I've got the score and I can't stop listening to it and thinking about the film. That Black Panther theme is just so uplifting with the "T'Challa!" chants in the background. It's not the sound I expected but it's probably the best superhero score I've ever heard from Marvel Studios. The first Thor is the only one that comes close to it.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 23, 2018, 07:03:46 am
oh yeah... I forgot you were Nigerian!

I know going into it you were a little worried about the Sex traffiker scenes... how was that scene taken by your audience/friends?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 23, 2018, 07:45:27 am
Everybody read this. Now

Quote
"It's important to show a Black relationship and the dynamics of that when the two people in it have very different views," Kaluuya told ESSENCE, adding that he had fun shooting his love scenes with Gurira. "They're already married so you do get a sense of the love they have for each other. As far as storytelling goes, picking up on that love is more important than seeing them smooch."

Gurira agrees but hopes that audiences will get to see the deleted scenes some day.

"Talk to Ryan about getting the DVD extras, girl," Gurira says blushing, "because those are some good scenes

Will We Ever Get To See Those Deleted Black PantherLove Scenes Between Okoye And WKabi?

https://www.essence.com/entertainment/okoye-wkabi-marriage-love-scenes-black-panther?utm_campaign=essence&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=essence_socialflow_twitter (https://www.essence.com/entertainment/okoye-wkabi-marriage-love-scenes-black-panther?utm_campaign=essence&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=essence_socialflow_twitter)

Quote
So in the film it is more than hinted at that they’re a couple, but there is a scene directly after Killmonger takes the throne where you hear both characters articulate their point of view as to why they should or shouldn’t follow this man and it’s one of the most well-acted scenes I’ve ever been a part of.

Unfortunately it occurred at a point in the movie where audiences just wanted to get to the resolution and so it slowed down a part of the movie and we were afraid audiences were checking out. We were also afraid if we took it out we’re going to ruin this movie—‘guys we’re going to ruin this movie; let’s not take it out.’ We didn’t take it out for three or four screenings and we finally took it out and I think Ryan and I were probably the last men on that beach saying don’t take it out.”

https://io9.gizmodo.com/theres-one-black-panther-deleted-scene-ryan-coogler-fou-1823188204 (https://io9.gizmodo.com/theres-one-black-panther-deleted-scene-ryan-coogler-fou-1823188204)

So we're all buying the blue ray with the bonus footage and deleted/extended scenes right?   ???

When that rumored 4 hour og cut coming out  ???


I preordered it on iTunes which sometimes does come with extras to compete with physical media the day the movie dropped and Best Buy’s website has the steelbook for both standard blu ray and 4K blu ray up for preorder as well which I also preordered.

I’m set

(https://i.imgur.com/eiGpIoq.gif)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 23, 2018, 07:53:49 am
Everybody read this. Now

Quote
"It's important to show a Black relationship and the dynamics of that when the two people in it have very different views," Kaluuya told ESSENCE, adding that he had fun shooting his love scenes with Gurira. "They're already married so you do get a sense of the love they have for each other. As far as storytelling goes, picking up on that love is more important than seeing them smooch."

Gurira agrees but hopes that audiences will get to see the deleted scenes some day.

"Talk to Ryan about getting the DVD extras, girl," Gurira says blushing, "because those are some good scenes

Will We Ever Get To See Those Deleted Black PantherLove Scenes Between Okoye And WKabi?

https://www.essence.com/entertainment/okoye-wkabi-marriage-love-scenes-black-panther?utm_campaign=essence&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=essence_socialflow_twitter (https://www.essence.com/entertainment/okoye-wkabi-marriage-love-scenes-black-panther?utm_campaign=essence&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=essence_socialflow_twitter)

Quote
So in the film it is more than hinted at that they’re a couple, but there is a scene directly after Killmonger takes the throne where you hear both characters articulate their point of view as to why they should or shouldn’t follow this man and it’s one of the most well-acted scenes I’ve ever been a part of.

Unfortunately it occurred at a point in the movie where audiences just wanted to get to the resolution and so it slowed down a part of the movie and we were afraid audiences were checking out. We were also afraid if we took it out we’re going to ruin this movie—‘guys we’re going to ruin this movie; let’s not take it out.’ We didn’t take it out for three or four screenings and we finally took it out and I think Ryan and I were probably the last men on that beach saying don’t take it out.”

https://io9.gizmodo.com/theres-one-black-panther-deleted-scene-ryan-coogler-fou-1823188204 (https://io9.gizmodo.com/theres-one-black-panther-deleted-scene-ryan-coogler-fou-1823188204)

So we're all buying the blue ray with the bonus footage and deleted/extended scenes right?   ???

When that rumored 4 hour og cut coming out  ???


I preordered it on iTunes which sometimes does come with extras to compete with physical media the day the movie dropped and Best Buy’s website has the steelbook for both standard blu ray and 4K blu ray up for preorder as well which I also preordered.

I’m set

(https://i.imgur.com/eiGpIoq.gif)

it sucks it is literally impossible to get the blu ray out before infinity war

my mcu marathon will feel incomplete

maybe it will still be in theaters at the dollar theaters in April or soemthing
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 23, 2018, 07:58:58 am
oh yeah... I forgot you were Nigerian!

I know going into it you were a little worried about the Sex traffiker scenes... how was that scene taken by your audience/friends?

Within the context of the film, I understood it and appreciated it. Because the film did not shy away from the truth and at the same time demonize other countries to big up Wakanda, I liked that it showed Nakia, as well as T'Challa and Okoye will help others who are in need.

As I said, when the Nigeria scene came up I heard some cheers and laughs so it didn't seem to bother people at all. I haven't seen any Nigerian reviewer or publication complain about it either. I think people appreciated that it actually showed that, and someone doing something about it.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 23, 2018, 08:55:27 am
Everybody read this. Now

Quote
"It's important to show a Black relationship and the dynamics of that when the two people in it have very different views," Kaluuya told ESSENCE, adding that he had fun shooting his love scenes with Gurira. "They're already married so you do get a sense of the love they have for each other. As far as storytelling goes, picking up on that love is more important than seeing them smooch."

Gurira agrees but hopes that audiences will get to see the deleted scenes some day.

"Talk to Ryan about getting the DVD extras, girl," Gurira says blushing, "because those are some good scenes

Will We Ever Get To See Those Deleted Black PantherLove Scenes Between Okoye And WKabi?

https://www.essence.com/entertainment/okoye-wkabi-marriage-love-scenes-black-panther?utm_campaign=essence&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=essence_socialflow_twitter (https://www.essence.com/entertainment/okoye-wkabi-marriage-love-scenes-black-panther?utm_campaign=essence&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=essence_socialflow_twitter)

Quote
So in the film it is more than hinted at that they’re a couple, but there is a scene directly after Killmonger takes the throne where you hear both characters articulate their point of view as to why they should or shouldn’t follow this man and it’s one of the most well-acted scenes I’ve ever been a part of.

Unfortunately it occurred at a point in the movie where audiences just wanted to get to the resolution and so it slowed down a part of the movie and we were afraid audiences were checking out. We were also afraid if we took it out we’re going to ruin this movie—‘guys we’re going to ruin this movie; let’s not take it out.’ We didn’t take it out for three or four screenings and we finally took it out and I think Ryan and I were probably the last men on that beach saying don’t take it out.”

https://io9.gizmodo.com/theres-one-black-panther-deleted-scene-ryan-coogler-fou-1823188204 (https://io9.gizmodo.com/theres-one-black-panther-deleted-scene-ryan-coogler-fou-1823188204)

So we're all buying the blue ray with the bonus footage and deleted/extended scenes right?   ???

When that rumored 4 hour og cut coming out  ???


I preordered it on iTunes which sometimes does come with extras to compete with physical media the day the movie dropped and Best Buy’s website has the steelbook for both standard blu ray and 4K blu ray up for preorder as well which I also preordered.

I’m set

(https://i.imgur.com/eiGpIoq.gif)

it sucks it is literally impossible to get the blu ray out before infinity war

my mcu marathon will feel incomplete

maybe it will still be in theaters at the dollar theaters in April or soemthing

You must endure and find a way!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 23, 2018, 08:56:56 am
It is our duty to watch the deleted scenes of Michonne and Mr. Get-Out making sweet PG-13 love!

We will not have it any other way-o
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 23, 2018, 08:57:49 am
(https://i.redd.it/7856aizxdth01.jpg)

GOATmonger in the cut

That's a scary sight  :o
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 23, 2018, 09:32:23 am
That's what the real boogie man looks like, k e that would give WS on assasin mode  nightmares lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 23, 2018, 12:37:05 pm
Something i caught last viewing was that mbaku was in the throne room at the end

Makes sense bc of IW but i missed it previously

Re bucky.. thats his nightmare fuel "omg theres two of them"
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 23, 2018, 12:40:58 pm
That is some terrifying s*** lol! Shuri let her imagination run wild (pun intended) with that design. I liked that both designs of the suits reflected the ideologies of T'Challa and Killmonger.

About the war dogs. I know Erik had a tattoo but he also had gold bottom canines. Did anyone else notice that with N'Jobu or another war dog?

Also part of me wants to start calling Black Panther the Royal Talon Fighter from now on lol.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 23, 2018, 01:41:26 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWhSirlX0AAeLl8.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 23, 2018, 01:43:24 pm
(https://static0.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/killmonger-hot-toys2.jpg?lossless=1&q=40&w=1024&h=&fit=crop)(https://static0.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/killmonger-hot-toys10.jpg?lossless=1&q=40&w=1024&h=&fit=crop)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 23, 2018, 01:55:47 pm
Ooh where did you get those images from Mortal?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 23, 2018, 02:04:02 pm
Here's what I wonder...

We never saw the blinged-out suit expand in Shuri's lab.  Do you think the leopard motif was there at the beginning, or something Killmonger added?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 23, 2018, 02:07:46 pm
Ooh where did you get those images from Mortal?

Here ya go homie

https://twitter.com/mcu_tweets
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 23, 2018, 02:08:34 pm
Rhodey got a new suit...

...yea he getting his ass kicked again  :-\
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 23, 2018, 02:25:22 pm
Seriously that suit is the stuff of Bucky's nightmares lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 23, 2018, 03:09:56 pm
Chadwicks performance got better each time i watched the movie.

Its easy to notice shuris sass, mbaku being mbaku, okoyes strong loyalty, and killmongers rage... but damn, chadwicks got range.

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 23, 2018, 03:20:26 pm
Chadwicks performance got better each time i watched the movie.

Its easy to notice shuris sass, mbaku being mbaku, okoyes strong loyalty, and killmongers rage... but damn, chadwicks got range.

Its like the Godfather. Its subtle. But once you focus on it, its brilliant.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 23, 2018, 03:21:35 pm
Chadwicks performance got better each time i watched the movie.

Its easy to notice shuris sass, mbaku being mbaku, okoyes strong loyalty, and killmongers rage... but damn, chadwicks got range.

Its like the Godfather. Its subtle. But once you focus on it, its brilliant.

Those CBR people still bitching about him?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 23, 2018, 03:26:39 pm
Chadwicks performance got better each time i watched the movie.

Its easy to notice shuris sass, mbaku being mbaku, okoyes strong loyalty, and killmongers rage... but damn, chadwicks got range.

Its like the Godfather. Its subtle. But once you focus on it, its brilliant.

Those CBR people still bitching about him?

You didn't even have to ask. lol


Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 23, 2018, 03:50:43 pm
What do you guys think of this look? I might have to draw it now lol

(https://i.redd.it/i4dij2kc0mh01.png)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 23, 2018, 04:00:27 pm
Kinda looks like what the artist from The Ultimates was going for.

I dont like the ears though.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 23, 2018, 04:02:15 pm
It's a bit busy.  I've always preferred the "less is more" school of design.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Gessela on February 23, 2018, 04:14:26 pm
There's a litany of cool suit designs in the art book, the ears back look can work.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 23, 2018, 04:14:43 pm
Chadwicks performance got better each time i watched the movie.

Its easy to notice shuris sass, mbaku being mbaku, okoyes strong loyalty, and killmongers rage... but damn, chadwicks got range.

Its like the Godfather. Its subtle. But once you focus on it, its brilliant.

Those CBR people still bitching about him?

Two lames.  One is new, prob storm kid out for revenge.

The other is just mad MBJ kicked BP's butt the 1st time.  He wouldn't have been butthurt if I it were switched with M'Baku.  Something  about grown man Wallace incites him
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 23, 2018, 04:25:59 pm
I would trim down the thick Black lines running it, and then move the ears up higher and add the silver Spikes on the forearms. But otherwise I actually love it lol it's  like cville said, like Kenneth Rocaforts design turned live action
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 23, 2018, 04:51:10 pm
Chadwicks performance got better each time i watched the movie.

Its easy to notice shuris sass, mbaku being mbaku, okoyes strong loyalty, and killmongers rage... but damn, chadwicks got range.

Its like the Godfather. Its subtle. But once you focus on it, its brilliant.

Those CBR people still bitching about him?

Then tbey watched a totally diff movie i guess

The other actors were great but tgey all had a lane they stayed in

Chadwick was all over the place and nailed it all.

His 2 conversations with his dad and how different they were was impressive... and impressive vision by coogler
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mad Coco G on February 23, 2018, 04:55:37 pm
Chadwicks performance got better each time i watched the movie.

Its easy to notice shuris sass, mbaku being mbaku, okoyes strong loyalty, and killmongers rage... but damn, chadwicks got range.

Its like the Godfather. Its subtle. But once you focus on it, its brilliant.



There’s a lot of Chadwick’s portrayal of T’Challa that is the hallmark of a great actor when you see it, dude put on a master class of acting during the South Korean casino scene
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 23, 2018, 05:11:13 pm
And dat zuri scene....
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 23, 2018, 05:14:59 pm
And dat zuri scene....

That one scene told you he was no Coates panther. lol

Got some bass in his voice. lol

For me that was a Priest moment similar to confronting Nakia.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 23, 2018, 05:49:45 pm
Chadwicks performance got better each time i watched the movie.

Its easy to notice shuris sass, mbaku being mbaku, okoyes strong loyalty, and killmongers rage... but damn, chadwicks got range.

Its like the Godfather. Its subtle. But once you focus on it, its brilliant.

Those CBR people still bitching about him?

Then tbey watched a totally diff movie i guess

The other actors were great but tgey all had a lane they stayed in

Chadwick was all over the place and nailed it all.

His 2 conversations with his dad and how different they were was impressive... and impressive vision by coogler

Had to go in on them a lil bit.  Just some slight jabs
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 23, 2018, 06:35:26 pm
Your Bob and weaved game is on point
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Rise Above on February 23, 2018, 06:36:13 pm
I’m gonna go ahead and call it now; Black Panther will be nominated for:
Best Picture
Best Director
Best Supporting Actor-MBJ
Best Supporting Actress-Leticia Wright
Best Costume Design
Best Cinematography
Best Music (Original Score)

At least 4 are a lock to win IMO
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 23, 2018, 06:37:20 pm
I’m gonna go ahead and call it now; Black Panther will be nominated for:
Best Picture
Best Director
Best Supporting Actor-MBJ
Best Supporting Actress-Leticia Wright
Best Costume Design
Best Cinematography
Best Music (Original Score)

At least 4 are a lock to win IMO

Oscars or Golden Globes?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 23, 2018, 06:55:08 pm
Welcome to the HEF Rise above
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 23, 2018, 07:15:51 pm
Chadwicks performance got better each time i watched the movie.

Its easy to notice shuris sass, mbaku being mbaku, okoyes strong loyalty, and killmongers rage... but damn, chadwicks got range.

Its like the Godfather. Its subtle. But once you focus on it, its brilliant.

Those CBR people still bitching about him?

Then tbey watched a totally diff movie i guess

The other actors were great but tgey all had a lane they stayed in

Chadwick was all over the place and nailed it all.

His 2 conversations with his dad and how different they were was impressive... and impressive vision by coogler

Had to go in on them a lil bit.  Just some slight jabs

They are counting there first meeting as a "fight?"

Da f*ck did i just read? Getting ambushed byba grenade launcher is a fight?

Just when tmi thought that place couldn't get worse

Xpac looks like a true fan conpared to some of these peeps.

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 23, 2018, 07:35:51 pm
Your Bob and weaved game is on point

Thanks breh, we both do pretty good in e-uppercutting these idiots.

Chadwicks performance got better each time i watched the movie.

Its easy to notice shuris sass, mbaku being mbaku, okoyes strong loyalty, and killmongers rage... but damn, chadwicks got range.

Its like the Godfather. Its subtle. But once you focus on it, its brilliant.

Those CBR people still bitching about him?

Then tbey watched a totally diff movie i guess

The other actors were great but tgey all had a lane they stayed in

Chadwick was all over the place and nailed it all.

His 2 conversations with his dad and how different they were was impressive... and impressive vision by coogler

Had to go in on them a lil bit.  Just some slight jabs

They are counting there first meeting as a "fight?"

Da f*ck did i just read? Getting ambushed byba grenade launcher is a fight?

Just when tmi thought that place couldn't get worse

Xpac looks like a true fan conpared to some of these peeps.

That's why i just jab and pull counter.  God forbid i take their dumbasses seriously.

Only reason i came back there was to gloat about Queen Nakia every chance i get until i get banned

but jeeeeez, even with the GOAT movie, GOAT hero, GOAT villain, GOAT supporting cast, and GOAT solo debut of all time, there will always be a low brain cell count in CBR.  I'm convinced. 

And it's not even the xpac's and murdocs and storm kids.  It's really just inherently a safe haven for dumbasses  :-\
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Rise Above on February 23, 2018, 07:53:45 pm
I’m gonna go ahead and call it now; Black Panther will be nominated for:
Best Picture
Best Director
Best Supporting Actor-MBJ
Best Supporting Actress-Leticia Wright
Best Costume Design
Best Cinematography
Best Music (Original Score)

At least 4 are a lock to win IMO

Oscars or Golden Globes?

Both. Black Excellence sweeps the awards season. I’ll even revise my earlier list, it’ll get 11 Oscar noms,the Big 6 plus screenplay, cinematography, costume, effects, & score
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Rise Above on February 23, 2018, 07:56:19 pm
Welcome to the HEF Rise above
Thanks Brother Ezyo, and congratulations on little Ezyo jr
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ture on February 23, 2018, 09:15:19 pm
(https://static0.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/killmonger-hot-toys2.jpg?lossless=1&q=40&w=1024&h=&fit=crop)(https://static0.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/killmonger-hot-toys10.jpg?lossless=1&q=40&w=1024&h=&fit=crop)

Excellent find Mortal Man. I will have to post this in the Collectibles thread. Hot Toys is boss. In total agreement about Oscar nominations and possible wins. Welcome to the HEF Rise Above.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 24, 2018, 12:16:32 am
Just watched it for the fourth time. 

1. Chadwick acted circles around everyone.  He had to cover the most range (humor, love, sadness, anger, resentment, betrayal, joy) and delivered emphatically everytime.  And when he wasnt talking he had the stage presence in every scene.  From his first appearance with Okoye, on through his victory against M'Baku for example, through his talk with his father, his sister, Zuri, Erik, M'Baku.. breh gave an acting clinic, while the rest did well too but often relied on those crowd pop jokes. 

2. I don't see why anyone would bitch about Chadwick's T'Challa from the start of the film through the start of Busan mission.  sh*t was perfect, and his muscles were big (pause) for all the CBR lames.

3. He got hit with a grenade launcher in mid air, which knocked him back and did no damage to him other than his pride. Ppl bitching bc he got tagged but yet he still saved ppl from blowing up with the first grenade.. yknow.. heroic stuff.  He wasn't supposed to capture Klaw and Erik there or else the movie would be over lol.

4.  In their first actually fight (no, the 2 second van chase is not a "fight" lol)T'Challa knocked Erik to the ground and instead of stabbing him, he paused and said yield. This is what I was asking y'all and MoS about earlier  Benevolent or conflicted, whatever. It cost him.. but he had Erik beat, and paused. In their second fight, there was NO hesitation and T'Challa outsmarted him in skill, timing and showed no hesitation unlike in the first fight.  Put the blade where it belonged

5. Queen Nakia and Okoye showed great acting in their scene together post-T'Challa "death".  Great serious acting.

6. In actual combat, BP was pretty independent.  No real red zone [bp vs red skull] moments where he needed wwe interference in order to win.. Basically could take out 20 dudes at a time, dispatched Klaw easily when it actually got time to fight him, and went 2-1 against M'Baku and Killmonger. Erik being the only big one, in which the director still gave BP the early win.

All in all, my favorite T'Challa and the perfect blend of Priest and Hudlin.  T'Chadwick's acting ages like fine wine.  Wakanda Forever indeed
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 24, 2018, 02:28:57 am
I thought I was the only one who thought Chadwick Boseman really delivered acting wise and honestly outshined MBJ. No disrespect to Jordan as I loved his performance as Killmonger and I've always thought he was a good actor as well, but Chadwick obviously being the star had the most to chew on. Like you all have pointed out that scene with him confronting Zuri was excellent acting by both men but Chadwick stole that scene. I mean, do you know what it means to shout at Forest Whitaker as if you command him? That must not be easy and it takes some stones to do that and convince people. I was certainly convinced. His lines like "Do not tell me what is not possible, I saw it with my own two eyes," and "I am your king now! Tell me the truth!" were delivered so authoritatively and he didn't come across as a petulant child, which is hard to overcome. There's also that moment when M'Baku came to Warrior Falls and was talking s*** and T'Challa basically told him to STFU with the "I accept your challenge." That was such a boss moment.
 
I think when those first reactions in and everyone was talking about Killmonger and some saying he outshined T'Challa have to do with two things:


At my showing I sat down next to a Nigerian guy and I noticed there were some Nigerians among the other black folks (who might have just been Brits or from other African countries or other places) and they seemed to relate to T'Challa more, as well as Okoye and Shuri. Another character I and others seem to really like that I'm seeing not get enough love was Ramonda. Angela Bassett seriously killed that role and embodied the Queen Mother perfectly. That scene when Killmonger announces who he really is, she really stood out for me, and also when she came to plead to M'Baku.

Regarding action scenes, my only gripe is that I wish they were a minute or two longer. I loved the way T'Challa handled the goons in Nigeria. I mean, can you say feats for days? Okoye doesn't tell him what to do, which I liked. He's clearly a great strategist as he looked at cars and Nakia in one of them through the display and just formulated his strategy from there. Dropping out of the ship with no parachute and throwing the beads perfectly at the vans was some Priest s***, unless the beads were homing devices (which doesn't really matter). I liked the actual fight a lot too. His fighting style in this film seemed to focus more on the use of capoeira/ngolo which I really liked seeing. I think there's a part where he rolled on the floor to avoid gunshots then grabs a guy by the ankle and throws him up. T'Challa was casually sending guys flying in this fight and throughout this film. He might actually hit harder than Cap and Bucky.

I liked the ritual combat scenes too, and the angle of T'Challa's powers being stripped from him. Shows that he doesn't need them to win fights and that he's very well trained. He was already one of the MCU's best martial artists by Civil War with one appearance, but this film I think adds to that. Showing that he's also a great marksman and weapons master. Only thing left is to show that he can use guns. The fight in the Busan casino I think was probably the weakest showing for his skills, but his other showings were very impressive. He jumped like 20 feet up in the air (without his suit) to meet Klaw, easily picked up a very large safe full of money, and survived a sonic blast capable of totaling cars, and fell that same 20 feet. He easily got back up and didn't seem damaged at all during the car chase scene. There he was again jumping several feet, and using his claws, his foot (which left a dent) and his strength to lift up one side of the car to make that sharp bend. That's both a skill, smarts and strength feet all in one. I didn't have a problem with Shuri telling T'Challa about his suit in that scene also. That was his first time using it, and he's the one that quickly knew what to do with the kinetic energy. Seeing the truck, he quickly thought of using it as cover while sneaking around the car. Jumped on it outta nowhere and took it out then landed on Shuri's car. Show me Captain America or Batman doing that lol. And also the wall run and taking out the tire. There was a lot more cheering for T'Challa when he was doing these things as for Okoye taking out the car and that stunt she did with the spear (which ended on a funny moment so that got a lot of laughs). Also liked the use of the "Every breath you take is mercy from me" line and noticed T'Challa has claws on his fists too with the new suit. Like I said the rest of the fight, excluding the final battle in my opinion needed to be a bit longer. Killmonger showing up in Busan needed to be longer, but I liked that in that scene you can see that T'Challa already knows how to use his suit better, though the grenade took out the kinetic energy stored and sent him flying backwards. I didn't expect that to happen and that's a good way to take him out by surprise. Had T'Challa not taken the other grenade first, the launched on wouldn't have stopped him. Also, the Killmonger vs T'Challa fight should have been a bit longer so it felt a bit more tense with T'Challa landing some more hits on Killmonger. Still a great fight though and I liked the outcome of it.

The last fight between Killmonger and T'Challa was well done too and again, T'Challa knowing that the train would affect that suits was genius and a good twist, and exactly what I wanted. Show that he understands the technology and how to use it and what to do with it to aid him, even if he doesn't go around inventing things. T'Challa already has Cap type strength and fighting ability but showing his has Iron Man type brains to use in combat shows that he's the best of both. The fight just should have been a bit longer and bloodier (and with better CGI) but I like how T'Challa one (I think he perfectly timed getting Erik in the place where his suit was open if I'm not mistaken). I do wish when both went to see the sunset they talked a bit more, and T'Challa apologised. But you could tell he felt sorry for Erik even before that when he yelled at T'Chaka again and he wanted to help Erik. T'Challa during the Great Mound battle also had plenty of good showings. I must say I was happy to see that both the Dora and the Border tribe had a lot more tech going on than their appearances let on. I loved the idea of the Border tribe putting their capes together to form those energy shields, and that their cutlasses had energy too. I think there was a part when T'Challa and W'Kabi (or another Border soldier) were fighting and someone tried to punch T'Challa and it hurt them because of the vibranium in the suit.

I mean really so many of the feats are the kind that Ross would have been explaining to Nikki in Priest's book lol, so I was very satisfied with what we got. I need to see the movie again and I think I'll go next weekend, but I couldn't have asked for a better movie for Black Panther.

Also, I need a hi-res image of T'Chaka's BP suit ASAP. All the suits were so fly.

If we want to talk Oscars/Golden Globes, what I can see happening or what I would like are:

BEST DIRECTOR
Ryan Coogler - Black Panther

BEST ORIGINAL SONG
"All the Stars" by Kendrick Lamar featuring SZA

BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
Black Panther - Ludwig Göransson

BEST COSTUME DESIGN
Black Panther - Ruth E. Carter

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
Black Panther - Rachel Morrison

BEST PRODUCTION DESIGN
Black Panther - Hannah Bleacher (and whoever else at Marvel Studios)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 24, 2018, 04:18:14 am
Also... we havent talked about Klaue

1. They fixed the "how the hell he get innsnd out if Wakanda " thng... having njobobibibi help him makes it possible

2. He was the perfect over the top henchmen bad guy

3. I know he had to die but i wish he didn't
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 24, 2018, 04:41:18 am
At least we'll always have his SoundCloud. :D
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 24, 2018, 06:49:45 am
I thought I was the only one who thought Chadwick Boseman really delivered acting wise and honestly outshined MBJ. No disrespect to Jordan as I loved his performance as Killmonger and I've always thought he was a good actor as well, but Chadwick obviously being the star had the most to chew on. Like you all have pointed out that scene with him confronting Zuri was excellent acting by both men but Chadwick stole that scene. I mean, do you know what it means to shout at Forest Whitaker as if you command him? That must not be easy and it takes some stones to do that and convince people. I was certainly convinced. His lines like "Do not tell me what is not possible, I saw it with my own two eyes," and "I am your king now! Tell me the truth!" were delivered so authoritatively and he didn't come across as a petulant child, which is hard to overcome. There's also that moment when M'Baku came to Warrior Falls and was talking s*** and T'Challa basically told him to STFU with the "I accept your challenge." That was such a boss moment.
 
I think when those first reactions in and everyone was talking about Killmonger and some saying he outshined T'Challa have to do with two things:

  • None of the trailers really sold Killmonger as a villain and didn't say much about his ideals, so he came across as a bit stereotypical.
    So no one thought he would be a great villain and that surprised people.
  • No one was expecting the film to be as political and socially conscious as it was and nobody expected Killmonger to have ideals and motivations that were attractive yet dangerous. Killmonger therefore more relatable to an African American audience because of this,
    but also in the way he talks and looks, as opposed to T'Challa and other people who have the Wakandan accent and have this very highly stylish and African dress sense. Killmonger is the closest thing to an African American in the film.

At my showing I sat down next to a Nigerian guy and I noticed there were some Nigerians among the other black folks (who might have just been Brits or from other African countries or other places) and they seemed to relate to T'Challa more, as well as Okoye and Shuri. Another character I and others seem to really like that I'm seeing not get enough love was Ramonda. Angela Bassett seriously killed that role and embodied the Queen Mother perfectly. That scene when Killmonger announces who he really is, she really stood out for me, and also when she came to plead to M'Baku.

Regarding action scenes, my only gripe is that I wish they were a minute or two longer. I loved the way T'Challa handled the goons in Nigeria. I mean, can you say feats for days? Okoye doesn't tell him what to do, which I liked. He's clearly a great strategist as he looked at cars and Nakia in one of them through the display and just formulated his strategy from there. Dropping out of the ship with no parachute and throwing the beads perfectly at the vans was some Priest s***, unless the beads were homing devices (which doesn't really matter). I liked the actual fight a lot too. His fighting style in this film seemed to focus more on the use of capoeira/ngolo which I really liked seeing. I think there's a part where he rolled on the floor to avoid gunshots then grabs a guy by the ankle and throws him up. T'Challa was casually sending guys flying in this fight and throughout this film. He might actually hit harder than Cap and Bucky.

I liked the ritual combat scenes too, and the angle of T'Challa's powers being stripped from him. Shows that he doesn't need them to win fights and that he's very well trained. He was already one of the MCU's best martial artists by Civil War with one appearance, but this film I think adds to that. Showing that he's also a great marksman and weapons master. Only thing left is to show that he can use guns. The fight in the Busan casino I think was probably the weakest showing for his skills, but his other showings were very impressive. He jumped like 20 feet up in the air (without his suit) to meet Klaw, easily picked up a very large safe full of money, and survived a sonic blast capable of totaling cars, and fell that same 20 feet. He easily got back up and didn't seem damaged at all during the car chase scene. There he was again jumping several feet, and using his claws, his foot (which left a dent) and his strength to lift up one side of the car to make that sharp bend. That's both a skill, smarts and strength feet all in one. I didn't have a problem with Shuri telling T'Challa about his suit in that scene also. That was his first time using it, and he's the one that quickly knew what to do with the kinetic energy. Seeing the truck, he quickly thought of using it as cover while sneaking around the car. Jumped on it outta nowhere and took it out then landed on Shuri's car. Show me Captain America or Batman doing that lol. And also the wall run and taking out the tire. There was a lot more cheering for T'Challa when he was doing these things as for Okoye taking out the car and that stunt she did with the spear (which ended on a funny moment so that got a lot of laughs). Also liked the use of the "Every breath you take is mercy from me" line and noticed T'Challa has claws on his fists too with the new suit. Like I said the rest of the fight, excluding the final battle in my opinion needed to be a bit longer. Killmonger showing up in Busan needed to be longer, but I liked that in that scene you can see that T'Challa already knows how to use his suit better, though the grenade took out the kinetic energy stored and sent him flying backwards. I didn't expect that to happen and that's a good way to take him out by surprise. Had T'Challa not taken the other grenade first, the launched on wouldn't have stopped him. Also, the Killmonger vs T'Challa fight should have been a bit longer so it felt a bit more tense with T'Challa landing some more hits on Killmonger. Still a great fight though and I liked the outcome of it.

The last fight between Killmonger and T'Challa was well done too and again, T'Challa knowing that the train would affect that suits was genius and a good twist, and exactly what I wanted. Show that he understands the technology and how to use it and what to do with it to aid him, even if he doesn't go around inventing things. T'Challa already has Cap type strength and fighting ability but showing his has Iron Man type brains to use in combat shows that he's the best of both. The fight just should have been a bit longer and bloodier (and with better CGI) but I like how T'Challa one (I think he perfectly timed getting Erik in the place where his suit was open if I'm not mistaken). I do wish when both went to see the sunset they talked a bit more, and T'Challa apologised. But you could tell he felt sorry for Erik even before that when he yelled at T'Chaka again and he wanted to help Erik. T'Challa during the Great Mound battle also had plenty of good showings. I must say I was happy to see that both the Dora and the Border tribe had a lot more tech going on than their appearances let on. I loved the idea of the Border tribe putting their capes together to form those energy shields, and that their cutlasses had energy too. I think there was a part when T'Challa and W'Kabi (or another Border soldier) were fighting and someone tried to punch T'Challa and it hurt them because of the vibranium in the suit.

I mean really so many of the feats are the kind that Ross would have been explaining to Nikki in Priest's book lol, so I was very satisfied with what we got. I need to see the movie again and I think I'll go next weekend, but I couldn't have asked for a better movie for Black Panther.

Also, I need a hi-res image of T'Chaka's BP suit ASAP. All the suits were so fly.

If we want to talk Oscars/Golden Globes, what I can see happening or what I would like are:

BEST DIRECTOR
Ryan Coogler - Black Panther

BEST ORIGINAL SONG
"All the Stars" by Kendrick Lamar featuring SZA

BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
Black Panther - Ludwig Göransson

BEST COSTUME DESIGN
Black Panther - Ruth E. Carter

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
Black Panther - Rachel Morrison

BEST PRODUCTION DESIGN
Black Panther - Hannah Bleacher (and whoever else at Marvel Studios)


(https://i.giphy.com/media/riQw6Nc9i4sKc/giphy.gif)

Couldn't be better said...

Or as the youngins would say while performing their weird cultural customs...

(http://gifprofile.com/gif/2017/02/tumblr_olfxf7z5t71udh5n8o1_400.gif)

It's lit!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 24, 2018, 07:13:32 am
YOOOOOOO!

(https://s14.postimg.org/kpgaraxen/006.jpg)

Straight outta Man Without Fear!!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 24, 2018, 07:28:59 am
YOOOOOOO!

https://s14.postimg.org/kpgaraxen/006.jpg

Straight outta Man Without Fear!!

Looks great. I think it works better without the cape.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 24, 2018, 07:39:43 am
You were holding out on us BW. Keeping the good stuff for yourself. lol

Some of these need to show up in the comic.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/black-panther-new-tchaka-concept-art-puts-the-heros-father-in-tchallas-classic-comic-book-costume-a158130 (https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/black-panther-new-tchaka-concept-art-puts-the-heros-father-in-tchallas-classic-comic-book-costume-a158130)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 24, 2018, 07:59:11 am
You were holding out on us BW. Keeping the good stuff for yourself. lol

Some of these need to show up in the comic.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/black-panther-new-tchaka-concept-art-puts-the-heros-father-in-tchallas-classic-comic-book-costume-a158130 (https://www.comicbookmovie.com/black_panther/black-panther-new-tchaka-concept-art-puts-the-heros-father-in-tchallas-classic-comic-book-costume-a158130)

My bad lol. Forgot to put the img tags and I was gonna post the rest here. Thanks for the link. I'm gonna try posting some more rn
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 24, 2018, 08:03:11 am
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Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 24, 2018, 08:11:20 am
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Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 24, 2018, 08:13:38 am
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China love Spiderboy and Iron Man so that really is something
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 24, 2018, 08:20:03 am
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I take back everything I said before.

Danny Rand is trash, Ancient One was miscast, and how dare they didn't make a Shang Chi netflix series instead...

[/my pettiness is conditional, not personal]
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 24, 2018, 08:25:48 am
@BlindWedgat

Looks like Djimon Hounsou almost made the cast lol.

I'm going to need some of the concepts in a video game.

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Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 24, 2018, 08:38:50 am
Just watched it for the fourth time. 

1. Chadwick acted circles around everyone.  He had to cover the most range (humor, love, sadness, anger, resentment, betrayal, joy) and delivered emphatically everytime.  And when he wasnt talking he had the stage presence in every scene.  From his first appearance with Okoye, on through his victory against M'Baku for example, through his talk with his father, his sister, Zuri, Erik, M'Baku.. breh gave an acting clinic, while the rest did well too but often relied on those crowd pop jokes. 

2. I don't see why anyone would bitch about Chadwick's T'Challa from the start of the film through the start of Busan mission.  sh*t was perfect, and his muscles were big (pause) for all the CBR lames.

3. He got hit with a grenade launcher in mid air, which knocked him back and did no damage to him other than his pride. Ppl bitching bc he got tagged but yet he still saved ppl from blowing up with the first grenade.. yknow.. heroic stuff.  He wasn't supposed to capture Klaw and Erik there or else the movie would be over lol.

4.  In their first actually fight (no, the 2 second van chase is not a "fight" lol)T'Challa knocked Erik to the ground and instead of stabbing him, he paused and said yield. This is what I was asking y'all and MoS about earlier  Benevolent or conflicted, whatever. It cost him.. but he had Erik beat, and paused. In their second fight, there was NO hesitation and T'Challa outsmarted him in skill, timing and showed no hesitation unlike in the first fight.  Put the blade where it belonged

5. Queen Nakia and Okoye showed great acting in their scene together post-T'Challa "death".  Great serious acting.

6. In actual combat, BP was pretty independent.  No real red zone [bp vs red skull] moments where he needed wwe interference in order to win.. Basically could take out 20 dudes at a time, dispatched Klaw easily when it actually got time to fight him, and went 2-1 against M'Baku and Killmonger. Erik being the only big one, in which the director still gave BP the early win.

All in all, my favorite T'Challa and the perfect blend of Priest and Hudlin.  T'Chadwick's acting ages like fine wine.  Wakanda Forever indeed

And how can any comic head be mad that Killmonger beats T'challa hand to hand anyway? That is dudes MO... that is his thing.

And I mean... jesus

- IM1: Tony couldn't beat Stane. Pepper had to kill him
- IM2: Tony needed Rhodey's help to beat Whiplash
- IM3: Tony's suits got decimated by Mandarin, finally almost killed him, and then he was saved by Pepper

Tony is 0/3 in beating his final boss 1v1, yet no one calls Tony "weak." And he took at L in CW as well

- Thor 2: Kurse beat Thor's ass and he had to be saved by Loki. He coudln't beat Aether Malekith without deus ex machina tech from Jane/Selvig
- Thor 3: he couldn't beat Hela. Had to have Surtur do it

No one calls Thor "weak"

- Cap 1: cap didn't even "beat" Red Skull... his dumbass picked up the Tesseract and got teleported away

Nobody calls Cap "weak"


t'challa, one-on-one, with no tech advantages (suits were equal), no power advantages (same HSH), no weird circumstances... it was a pure, 1v1 fight between the two on equal terms. there was no emotional conflicts there... Killmonger was trying ot kill T'challa and T'challa was trying to kill Killmonger...

T'challa one with a spear to the gut. The End.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 24, 2018, 09:06:12 am
Just watched it for the fourth time. 

1. Chadwick acted circles around everyone.  He had to cover the most range (humor, love, sadness, anger, resentment, betrayal, joy) and delivered emphatically everytime.  And when he wasnt talking he had the stage presence in every scene.  From his first appearance with Okoye, on through his victory against M'Baku for example, through his talk with his father, his sister, Zuri, Erik, M'Baku.. breh gave an acting clinic, while the rest did well too but often relied on those crowd pop jokes. 

2. I don't see why anyone would bitch about Chadwick's T'Challa from the start of the film through the start of Busan mission.  sh*t was perfect, and his muscles were big (pause) for all the CBR lames.

3. He got hit with a grenade launcher in mid air, which knocked him back and did no damage to him other than his pride. Ppl bitching bc he got tagged but yet he still saved ppl from blowing up with the first grenade.. yknow.. heroic stuff.  He wasn't supposed to capture Klaw and Erik there or else the movie would be over lol.

4.  In their first actually fight (no, the 2 second van chase is not a "fight" lol)T'Challa knocked Erik to the ground and instead of stabbing him, he paused and said yield. This is what I was asking y'all and MoS about earlier  Benevolent or conflicted, whatever. It cost him.. but he had Erik beat, and paused. In their second fight, there was NO hesitation and T'Challa outsmarted him in skill, timing and showed no hesitation unlike in the first fight.  Put the blade where it belonged

5. Queen Nakia and Okoye showed great acting in their scene together post-T'Challa "death".  Great serious acting.

6. In actual combat, BP was pretty independent.  No real red zone [bp vs red skull] moments where he needed wwe interference in order to win.. Basically could take out 20 dudes at a time, dispatched Klaw easily when it actually got time to fight him, and went 2-1 against M'Baku and Killmonger. Erik being the only big one, in which the director still gave BP the early win.

All in all, my favorite T'Challa and the perfect blend of Priest and Hudlin.  T'Chadwick's acting ages like fine wine.  Wakanda Forever indeed

And how can any comic head be mad that Killmonger beats T'challa hand to hand anyway? That is dudes MO... that is his thing.

And I mean... jesus

- IM1: Tony couldn't beat Stane. Pepper had to kill him
- IM2: Tony needed Rhodey's help to beat Whiplash
- IM3: Tony's suits got decimated by Mandarin, finally almost killed him, and then he was saved by Pepper

Tony is 0/3 in beating his final boss 1v1, yet no one calls Tony "weak." And he took at L in CW as well

- Thor 2: Kurse beat Thor's ass and he had to be saved by Loki. He coudln't beat Aether Malekith without deus ex machina tech from Jane/Selvig
- Thor 3: he couldn't beat Hela. Had to have Surtur do it

No one calls Thor "weak"

- Cap 1: cap didn't even "beat" Red Skull... his dumbass picked up the Tesseract and got teleported away

Nobody calls Cap "weak"


t'challa, one-on-one, with no tech advantages (suits were equal), no power advantages (same HSH), no weird circumstances... it was a pure, 1v1 fight between the two on equal terms. there was no emotional conflicts there... Killmonger was trying ot kill T'challa and T'challa was trying to kill Killmonger...

T'challa one with a spear to the gut. The End.

Like!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on February 24, 2018, 09:33:57 am
Your Bob and weaved game is on point

Thanks breh, we both do pretty good in e-uppercutting these idiots.

Chadwicks performance got better each time i watched the movie.

Its easy to notice shuris sass, mbaku being mbaku, okoyes strong loyalty, and killmongers rage... but damn, chadwicks got range.

Its like the Godfather. Its subtle. But once you focus on it, its brilliant.

Those CBR people still bitching about him?

Then tbey watched a totally diff movie i guess

The other actors were great but tgey all had a lane they stayed in

Chadwick was all over the place and nailed it all.

His 2 conversations with his dad and how different they were was impressive... and impressive vision by coogler

Had to go in on them a lil bit.  Just some slight jabs

They are counting there first meeting as a "fight?"

Da f*ck did i just read? Getting ambushed byba grenade launcher is a fight?

Just when tmi thought that place couldn't get worse

Xpac looks like a true fan conpared to some of these peeps.

That's why i just jab and pull counter.  God forbid i take their dumbasses seriously.

Only reason i came back there was to gloat about Queen Nakia every chance i get until i get banned

but jeeeeez, even with the GOAT movie, GOAT hero, GOAT villain, GOAT supporting cast, and GOAT solo debut of all time, there will always be a low brain cell count in CBR.  I'm convinced. 

And it's not even the xpac's and murdocs and storm kids.  It's really just inherently a safe haven for dumbasses  :-\

It's a breeding ground for white supremacist (regardless if they are actually white themselves or not) closer to Liberal then conservative & are two obtuse to realize that they racist & white supremacist..
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 24, 2018, 09:54:53 am
Everyone has excuses for days for other heroes. Hell don't forget in Cap WS Steve was catching Bucky's hands and had to beg him to snap out of it while he was catching metal fists repeatedly to the face.. but people will mental gymnastics that away like pros
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 24, 2018, 11:24:23 am
Everyone has excuses for days for other heroes. Hell don't forget in Cap WS Steve was catching Bucky's hands and had to beg him to snap out of it while he was catching metal fists repeatedly to the face.. but people will mental gymnastics that away like pros

Was just about to say this. Hell, the only time Cap beat Bucky in a clear fight was when he didn't know who he was fighting. He didn't even really beat him. It was more of a stalemate. I'd give it to Cap that every other time after that he doesn't want to hurt him but still.

The only guys to have clear victories over their opponents in their own movies in the MCU are Hulk, Thor (in Thor 1), Ant-Man, Star-Lord/The Guardians of the Galaxy (in Vol. 1, and they needed an Infinity Stone to do that), and Black Panther.

Doctor Strange had to bargain with Dormammu to beat Kaecilius
Star-Lord had to sacrifice his own powers and destroy Ego's core to beat him
Spider-Man lost to the Vulture and Tobias was only beaten because his suit was malfunctioning and he was carrying those alien bomb things.

No one called them weak after these I think.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 24, 2018, 11:43:59 am
*Zuri voice* EYE GEEV TO YOU DEH BLEK PENTHA- I MEAN MC BABY UNDERBITE!

https://twitter.com/Lupita_Nyongo/status/967106827220541440?s=20 (https://twitter.com/Lupita_Nyongo/status/967106827220541440?s=20)

"If you didn't know we're welcoming more family members
Big up to Nakia"

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Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 24, 2018, 11:53:31 am
it's funny because of Tchalla was shown doing everything solo and handling the baddies on his own without help people would of called him a Mary Sue. It's stupid
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 24, 2018, 11:54:06 am
*Zuri voice* EYE GEEV TO YOU DEH BLEK PENTHA- I MEAN MC BABY UNDERBITE!

[url]https://twitter.com/Lupita_Nyongo/status/967106827220541440?s=20[/url] ([url]https://twitter.com/Lupita_Nyongo/status/967106827220541440?s=20[/url])

"If you didn't know we're welcoming more family members
Big up to Nakia"

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Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 24, 2018, 11:59:59 am
Your Bob and weaved game is on point

Thanks breh, we both do pretty good in e-uppercutting these idiots.

Chadwicks performance got better each time i watched the movie.

Its easy to notice shuris sass, mbaku being mbaku, okoyes strong loyalty, and killmongers rage... but damn, chadwicks got range.

Its like the Godfather. Its subtle. But once you focus on it, its brilliant.

Those CBR people still bitching about him?

Then tbey watched a totally diff movie i guess

The other actors were great but tgey all had a lane they stayed in

Chadwick was all over the place and nailed it all.

His 2 conversations with his dad and how different they were was impressive... and impressive vision by coogler

Had to go in on them a lil bit.  Just some slight jabs

They are counting there first meeting as a "fight?"

Da f*ck did i just read? Getting ambushed byba grenade launcher is a fight?

Just when tmi thought that place couldn't get worse

Xpac looks like a true fan conpared to some of these peeps.

That's why i just jab and pull counter.  God forbid i take their dumbasses seriously.

Only reason i came back there was to gloat about Queen Nakia every chance i get until i get banned

but jeeeeez, even with the GOAT movie, GOAT hero, GOAT villain, GOAT supporting cast, and GOAT solo debut of all time, there will always be a low brain cell count in CBR.  I'm convinced. 

And it's not even the xpac's and murdocs and storm kids.  It's really just inherently a safe haven for dumbasses  :-\

It's a breeding ground for white supremacist (regardless if they are actually white themselves or not) closer to Liberal then conservative & are two obtuse to realize that they racist & white supremacist..

Facts.  That forum is trash

Makes comic book nerds look bad.  If I wasn't a comic book nerd and I came across that forum for the first time, id be like damn comic book nerds are a buncha bitches.  Low-key racist, high-key bitches
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 24, 2018, 12:35:13 pm
That moment when you realise...

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Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Hypestyle on February 24, 2018, 01:25:51 pm
excellent movie. hopefully Marvel/Disney will sign Mr. Coogler and his collaborators for part 2.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 24, 2018, 04:10:38 pm
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/02/24/michael-b-jordan-tchalla-black-panther/ (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/02/24/michael-b-jordan-tchalla-black-panther/)

Michael B. Jordan Really Wanted to Play T’Challa in Black Panther

Excerpt

Were you familiar with the Black Panther character?

Very much so. He was a childhood favorite and a character that I always looked up to and admired. Black Panther was actually always a character that I wanted to play one day when I was a kid.

What did you like about Black Panther?

Being a person of color, being African-American and not having many Super Hero characters that look like me that I can actually relate to – he was the character I wanted to play. And I really fell in love with Wakanda, this world where black people were so strong and powerful.

How excited were you about Marvel Studios doing a Black Panther movie?


Oh, super excited. The character did so well in Captain America: Civil War – he pretty much stole a lot of the movie, in my opinion. Chadwick [Boseman] did such an amazing job playing him – it was only a matter of time before he got his own movie.

What appealed to you about this film?

Me and Ryan Coogler are like brothers. This is our third film together. This is a project that we spoke about, and he mentioned me coming on and doing something different, playing a villain. To be able to team up with him again was a no-brainer. And I haven’t had the opportunity to work with Chadwick before, so this is great.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on February 24, 2018, 05:12:31 pm
Your Bob and weaved game is on point

Thanks breh, we both do pretty good in e-uppercutting these idiots.

Chadwicks performance got better each time i watched the movie.

Its easy to notice shuris sass, mbaku being mbaku, okoyes strong loyalty, and killmongers rage... but damn, chadwicks got range.

Its like the Godfather. Its subtle. But once you focus on it, its brilliant.

Those CBR people still bitching about him?

Then tbey watched a totally diff movie i guess

The other actors were great but tgey all had a lane they stayed in

Chadwick was all over the place and nailed it all.

His 2 conversations with his dad and how different they were was impressive... and impressive vision by coogler

Had to go in on them a lil bit.  Just some slight jabs

They are counting there first meeting as a "fight?"

Da f*ck did i just read? Getting ambushed byba grenade launcher is a fight?

Just when tmi thought that place couldn't get worse

Xpac looks like a true fan conpared to some of these peeps.

That's why i just jab and pull counter.  God forbid i take their dumbasses seriously.

Only reason i came back there was to gloat about Queen Nakia every chance i get until i get banned

but jeeeeez, even with the GOAT movie, GOAT hero, GOAT villain, GOAT supporting cast, and GOAT solo debut of all time, there will always be a low brain cell count in CBR.  I'm convinced. 

And it's not even the xpac's and murdocs and storm kids.  It's really just inherently a safe haven for dumbasses  :-\

It's a breeding ground for white supremacist (regardless if they are actually white themselves or not) closer to Liberal then conservative & are two obtuse to realize that they racist & white supremacist..

Facts.  That forum is trash

Makes comic book nerds look bad.  If I wasn't a comic book nerd and I came across that forum for the first time, id be like damn comic book nerds are a buncha bitches.  Low-key racist, high-key bitches

Honestly I felt that way b4 I joined CBR , but CBR solidified those opinions for me & made them facts..
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 24, 2018, 06:48:40 pm
More concept art. These are awesome. I kinda want the new suits to look even more Panther like

(https://i.redd.it/nca3f27tr5i01.jpg)

This one was inspired by Stelfreeze design. Looks Good

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW1Ep2_U0AA4EMW.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on February 25, 2018, 04:45:59 am
More concept art. These are awesome. I kinda want the new suits to look even more Panther like

(https://i.redd.it/nca3f27tr5i01.jpg)

This one was inspired by Stelfreeze design. Looks Good

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW1Ep2_U0AA4EMW.jpg)

Yeah I really like that mask/headpiece hopefully the next to will have it or something similar..
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 25, 2018, 04:58:18 am
I like that second pic.  it really plays into the "less is more" principle I've discussed before.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 25, 2018, 06:00:27 am
Slight rant time....

I read a poster who said, he didn't like the Black Panther movie because one piece of the visual effects was bad to him. He said, the second he saw it, it ruined the movie for him.  Really?!?  One scene? 

I get that for some people, CGI, other effects are just as important to them as the story, or even more important.

I get that there are people out there that if they hear one wrong note in a song, it ruins the whole song for them.  I get there are people that can see one flaw in a painting and it ruins it for them (sometimes, I'm even like that).

And I get some people are "professional" critics; always looking for flaws (again, I can be like that).

But sometimes I really think some people look for excuses to not like a movie.  (And it's not just BP, but it really hit me with this movie.)

Rant over.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Beware Of Geek on February 25, 2018, 06:12:45 am
To be honest, I've seen people like that even BEFORE the movie came out.  They see one bit of information (a set leak, or a filming location) and they extrapolate a whole cataclysmic failure from it.

Remember when folks were freaking out, because they were filming scenes in the US?  Or South Korea?  Or hell, when they thought the Johannesburg scenes in AGE OF ULTRON were standing in for Wakanda?  Sometimes, I think people were just looking for an excuse to be worried, angry, or disappointed.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 25, 2018, 08:39:34 am
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/02/25/box-office-black-panther-tops-700m-with-record-breaking-2nd-weekend/#61a3fcd3213f (https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/02/25/box-office-black-panther-tops-700m-with-record-breaking-2nd-weekend/#61a3fcd3213f)

Box Office: 'Black Panther' Tops $700M With Record-Breaking 2nd Weekend

Black Panther earned $108 million on its second Fri-Sun frame, a drop of just 46% from last weekend’s record-crushing $202m Fri-Sun opening. In terms of raw dollars, it is the second-biggest second weekend gross of all time between Universal/Comast Corp.'s Jurassic World ($106.5m) and Lucasfilm's The Force Awakens ($149m).

It also joins fellow Walt Disney release The Force Awakens as the only other $200 million+ opener to avoid the “$100m-losers club,” as it fell only $94m between weekends.

That 46% second-weekend drop is a record for an MCU flick, holding even better than Paramount/Viacom Inc.'s Iron Man (-49%), Paramount's Thor (-47%), Walt Disney's The Avengers (-50%) and Disney's  Doctor Strange (-49%).
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 25, 2018, 08:40:21 am
GOAT superhero movie  :D
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 25, 2018, 09:30:35 am
It's released in China in 2 weeks.  Advanced ticket tracking in China shows that BP is ahead of Spider-Man Homecoming, which had a 71 milly 3 day opening.

So if we assume that for it's entire run in China, BP makes 100 milly (Spider-man made 116m total in China, and 25m in Japan), that means the USA and non-China foreign markets just have to pull an additional 200m total for the remainder of BP's box office run to secure 1 billy.

700m (current, done in 2 weeks) + additional 200m (they got months to do this, might only need weeks) + 100m from China (seems likely) = Billionnaire boys club. 

And that's not factoring the additional 15-25m it could get from Japan.

I think we gon do it.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 25, 2018, 10:16:57 am
It's released in China in 2 weeks.  Advanced ticket tracking in China shows that BP is ahead of Spider-Man Homecoming, which had a 71 milly 3 day opening.

So if we assume that for it's entire run in China, BP makes 100 milly (Spider-man made 116m total in China, and 25m in Japan), that means the USA and non-China foreign markets just have to pull an additional 200m total for the remainder of BP's box office run to secure 1 billy.

700m (current, done in 2 weeks) + additional 200m (they got months to do this, might only need weeks) + 100m from China (seems likely) = Billionnaire boys club. 

And that's not factoring the additional 15-25m it could get from Japan.

I think we gon do it.

I'm going to wager it's going to do a 100 Milly opening on China. For Japan, im guessing 30 Milly

In the next two weeks before it's opens in China, we are going to get another 150 Milly easily domestic and other foreign BO. Again, BP is going to beat out IM 3 and CWs Billy records
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 25, 2018, 10:29:53 am
I took a pic of target toys today

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfoKVQWBkdf/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BfoKVQWBkdf/)

Only action figures left were some killmonger legends.

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 25, 2018, 11:31:58 am
It's released in China in 2 weeks.  Advanced ticket tracking in China shows that BP is ahead of Spider-Man Homecoming, which had a 71 milly 3 day opening.

So if we assume that for it's entire run in China, BP makes 100 milly (Spider-man made 116m total in China, and 25m in Japan), that means the USA and non-China foreign markets just have to pull an additional 200m total for the remainder of BP's box office run to secure 1 billy.

700m (current, done in 2 weeks) + additional 200m (they got months to do this, might only need weeks) + 100m from China (seems likely) = Billionnaire boys club. 

And that's not factoring the additional 15-25m it could get from Japan.

I think we gon do it.

I'm going to wager it's going to do a 100 Milly opening on China. For Japan, im guessing 30 Milly

In the next two weeks before it's opens in China, we are going to get another 150 Milly easily domestic and other foreign BO. Again, BP is going to beat out IM 3 and CWs Billy records


If Ezyo predicts it, I believe it
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 25, 2018, 11:32:49 am
But breh, when you gon watch the movie tho? Lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 25, 2018, 11:36:03 am
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Just bought this and BP annual 1

And Evans BP #2 (1st BP book I've bought in close to a year).
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 25, 2018, 11:39:54 am
How much is the art book... im scared to know how much vibranium ut costs
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 25, 2018, 11:46:25 am
How much is the art book... im scared to know how much vibranium ut costs

Fiddy bucks
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 25, 2018, 12:38:53 pm
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/02/25/box-office-black-panther-tops-700m-with-record-breaking-2nd-weekend/#61a3fcd3213f (https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/02/25/box-office-black-panther-tops-700m-with-record-breaking-2nd-weekend/#61a3fcd3213f)

Box Office: 'Black Panther' Tops $700M With Record-Breaking 2nd Weekend

Black Panther earned $108 million on its second Fri-Sun frame, a drop of just 46% from last weekend’s record-crushing $202m Fri-Sun opening. In terms of raw dollars, it is the second-biggest second weekend gross of all time between Universal/Comast Corp.'s Jurassic World ($106.5m) and Lucasfilm's The Force Awakens ($149m).

It also joins fellow Walt Disney release The Force Awakens as the only other $200 million+ opener to avoid the “$100m-losers club,” as it fell only $94m between weekends.

That 46% second-weekend drop is a record for an MCU flick, holding even better than Paramount/Viacom Inc.'s Iron Man (-49%), Paramount's Thor (-47%), Walt Disney's The Avengers (-50%) and Disney's  Doctor Strange (-49%).

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Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 25, 2018, 01:06:44 pm
In “Black Panther,” American Dreams and American Nightmares Clash


"In effect, the Wakandan Kingdom is caught between two bleak visions of America: walling itself off, or potentially imposing on other nations"


by SIDDHANT ADLAKHA
FEBRUARY 23, 2018


"Marvel’s lavish, Africa-set superhero adventure opens on the streets of Oakland in 1992. Black Bay Area youth shoot basketballs into makeshift scrap-hoops. Above them, N’Jobu (Sterling K. Brown) code-switches between American and African inflection as Wakandan royalty comes knocking to investigate potential crimes against the crown. The interaction finds the Black Panther, T’Chaka, an African superhero and king, face-to-face with his brother, N’Jobu, an armed revolutionary speaking of Black liberation — on the precipice, no less, of L.A.’s Rodney King Riots, in the nearby city where the Black Panther Party was born.


In Black Panther, directed and co-written by Oakland native Ryan Coogler, history and metaphor are intrinsically linked. The character and the Party were named independently of one another, but they both sprung from the same volatile social climate of 1966. The Jack Kirby and Stan Lee superhero creation first appeared in the pages of Fantastic Four, fully formed along with the character’s advanced African “Techno Organic Jungle.” Wakanda may be a realm of Afrofuturism, boasting culture, technology, and Black excellence untouched by colonial influence, but the world it inhabits is the real world — our world. One of military-industrial complexes, of refugee crises, of African-American struggle, and of questions of cultural belonging. Black Panther is a fantasy in concept, but it exists to highlight and hold accountable a harsh reality, to ask a simple yet fundamental question: How do “the wise build bridges when the foolish seek to build barriers?”


The answer lies, in part, in the idea of Wakanda, whose near-limitless supply of the fictional metal Vibranium has given rise to untold advancements in medical science and nanotechnology, but also to arms and ammunitions. The nation’s design, a veritable wellspring of ideas from an alternate reality, centers African aesthetics and artistic philosophies in lieu of their omnipresent Western counterparts. Wakanda is at once a sociopolitical respite and a classic Marvel reversal in the vein of their What If? comic line, only its central question is less about exchanging known characters’ power sets in inconsequential alternate realities than it is about the mechanics of colonial history. What if, the film posits, Africa were allowed to advance on its own terms, without being stripped of resources and people? What would that promise look like? The answer is breathtaking from the moment Okoye (Danai Gurira), leader of the all-female Royal Guard the Dora Milaje, flies T’Chaka’s son and newly appointed successor T’Challa (Chadwick Boseman) back to his homeland through a mountainous hologram. “We are home,” she says, guiding both the king and the viewer into a secret world where African culture and advanced technology evolved not only side-by-side, but as one and the same.


Perhaps this is the answer the world has been waiting for, the centering of perspectives and ideas pushed to the margins for far too long. Perhaps this pan-African paradise will stand as a beacon, and as an example for all the world to follow. King T’Challa certainly thinks so, but like his idealistic Ragnarok counterpart Thor, the God of Thunder, he’s unaware of the full scope of his kingdom’s misdeeds. Like Asgard before it — whose whitewashing of violent conquest led to its destruction by the fire demon Surtur — Wakanda too must face reckoning at the hands of purifying flame, albeit on a more personal scale. Wakanda’s great lie is born in an apartment of that 1992 Oakland. To stop Wakanda from being discovered by the world, King T’Chaka murders his brother N’Jobu, a Wakandan spy seeking to arm oppressed African-Americans with Vibranium-powered weapons after witnessing their plight up-close. In the aftermath, the King hides this murder from his own people by leaving behind N’Jobu’s American-born son. Decades later, that son returns to his homeland and not only catalyzes a Wakandan mutiny but seeks to ensure the end of the Black Panther legacy by burning its ceremonial birthright: the mystical Heart-Shaped Herb, grown from soil fertilized by an alien meteor and the source of both the Panther’s strength and his ability to communicate with fallen ancestors.


That left-behind American-born son, Eric Stevens (Michael B. Jordan), stands as a living embodiment of the grim real-world circumstances that make Wakanda a necessary Afrofuturist fantasy in the first place. Eric — a/k/a N’Jadaka, or, as he was nicknamed in the military, “Killmonger” — is a counterfoil to T’Challa and an inevitable outcome of Wakanda’s gilded leadership leaving ordinary people behind when the nation could have done so much more. Where T’Challa inherits the Panther mantle from his father, an unbroken legacy passed down through generations, Killmonger received a much harsher inheritance: lifelong banishment thanks to the sins of his father, left to raise himself on the streets of Oakland and in the American military, cut off from his culture and identity.



When T’Challa consumes the Heart-Shaped Herb — the ingestion of which transports one’s consciousness to the spirit world — he is met with a magnificent ancestral realm: wide-open plains, spanning infinitely in all directions like the promise of possibility. Eric’s spirit-walk under the substance’s influence, however, is confined to the tiny Oakland residence in which he discovered his father’s body. His cultural lineage is limited to a trinket and scribblings hidden behind a secret wall in the apartment. Even if he were to return “home” to Africa, his tribe would likely not accept him as one of their own. Killmonger may not have descended from slaves, but American Blackness is his refuge — the only culture he’s allowed to know, created over centuries as its possessors were stripped of African roots and molded in response contemporary oppression.


There is a devastating meta-text to Michael B. Jordan inhabiting an Oakland-native Killmonger. (In the comics, the character is from Harlem.) In Coogler’s debut, Fruitvale Station, Jordan plays Oscar Grant, a real-life Oakland victim of police violence within a white-supremacist system. In Coogler’s follow-up, Creed, a sequel to and cultural recontextualizing of the Rocky series, Jordan’s L.A.-based Adonis struggles between living up to the legacy of a father he was robbed of and creating a legacy of his own. Killmonger is part of this same continuum — the logical, big-picture extension of Jordan’s Oscar and Adonis, transposed to an action-fantasy setting that remains rooted in the concrete struggles of Fruitvale Station and Creed. Where those films exist within the parameters of real-life and the boxing ring, respectively, Black Panther affords Jordan the opportunity to re-embody similar thematic concepts (systemic brutality, the struggles of legacy) in a newly fantastically expressive way. It’s as if the character exists in direct response to Oscar and Adonis, externalizing angers that, in everyday America, are often forced into silence.


Killmonger is righteous Black rage incarnate. He has witnessed suffering, the kind Wakanda has not, the kind Wakandans cannot if their isolationist dream is to continue. The Kingdom is an African-American fantasy, but it teeters on the edge of becoming America’s worst self, depending on how it chooses to engage with the world. New king T’Challa is surrounded by conflicting perspectives that he must consider as he ascends. There’s the traditionalism of M’Baku (Winston Duke), leader of the Jabari tribe, who dwell in the mountains and worship the Hindu deity Hanuman; T’Challa’s sister Shuri (Letitia Wright), whom M’Baku despises, as she prefers technological innovation and global pop culture over the idea of tradition; and T’Challa’s beau, Nakia (Lupita Nyong’o), a spy who questions her loyalty to the isolationist state, choosing instead to infiltrate foreign militant camps and employ justified violence to liberate women behind enemy lines. There’s also T’Challa’s friend W’Kabi (Daniel Kaluuya), who insists on turning away refugees to protect the borders; T’Challa’s bodyguard and confidant, Okoye; and, of course, Killmonger himself, the opposite extreme to Wakanda’s prevailing isolationism. Killmonger desires not only to turn the Kingdom into a metaphor for American military invasion through the export of war, but to do so via explicitly American-esque military and governmental methods: destabilizing a vulnerable state during a handover of power, employing foreign sleeper agents to enact political will.


It is amid all these conflicting perspectives, each valid in their own way, that T’Challa must rise to the occasion and decide what kind of king he wants to be. The film’s third act hinges not only on containing the outbreak of an all-out Wakandan civil war, but on stopping Vibranium weapons from leaving Wakanda’s borders, destined to be used on foreign soil. In effect, the Kingdom is caught between two bleak visions of America: walling itself off, or potentially imposing on other nations — the latter the very imperialism it managed to escape. However, there exists a nuanced middle-ground between these warring perspectives. Where Killmonger’s means may be armed bloodshed in the vein of colonial oppressors, his ends — global Black liberation from poverty and state violence — are essentially noble. What separates Black Panther from the rest of the superhero pack is the fact that the film truly agrees with its villain. The hero recognizes the bad guy’s pain, and learns from him.


Killmonger may storm the Wakandan throne room as an “outsider” and demand ritualistic battle, but hidden in his disrespect are nuggets of truth that unearth the dual sense of longing and abandonment many African Americans might feel toward their African ancestors. While Wakanda represents a fulfillment of that longing, Killmonger’s royal bloodline remains at odds with his American Blackness. This duality comes to the fore in Jordan’s balance of vulnerability and rage, his character caught between wanting to experience true freedom and wanting to punish the oppressors — the internal forces that govern the instincts of the oppressed. Killmonger wears his violence on his sleeve, scarring himself for every life stolen in pursuit of the Wakandan throne. It’s a mission he undertakes to erase the ills suffered by Blackness at the hands of white supremacy, a system Wakanda managed to escape.


And yet, while the problems he hopes to fix are distinctly American, his solutions are distinctly American, too. Born from violence and bred for war, Killmonger’s vision for a peaceful world doesn’t extend beyond imposing his will and using it to create a new colonial empire. Like his father, he wants Wakanda to rule the world “the right way.” He may be right about things our heroes have never considered — Wakanda has ignored global suffering too long — but it isn’t until T’Challa, a man with the political and financial power to enact change, sees the world through Killmonger’s eyes that progress can be made.


In some other story, people like T’Challa and Killmonger could’ve sat down and exchanged ideas and created a better world together. Black Panther, however, is the tragedy of Eric Stevens, and the tragedy of Wakanda, a nation hell-bent on the illusion of domestic peace to the point that it commits violence elsewhere — not unlike the United States. Where Black Panther highlights the problems of Black America, it also highlights the structural problems of America as a whole by injecting them into the fabric of Wakanda. The two nations may be worlds apart, but are they any more disparate in their worldviews than Black America and the American leaders who ignore it? T’Challa and Killmonger could likely never have had that peaceful debate in this reality, not when their very existences were defined by paying for the sins of their respective fathers. Taking Wakanda into a volatile world while having to reckon with its lies was T’Challa’s burden, passed down from his predecessor. Killmonger’s burden was to be the lie itself — a small part of the vast racial and socio-economic problem that’s been swept under the rug by Wakanda’s prior leaders.


Killmonger’s fatalistic, inevitably violent outlook — a byproduct of American militarism and white supremacy — is not presented as the end-all solution. But it’s in listening to Killmonger’s ideas that T’Challa starts to build bridges. He begins with the Oakland residence where Killmonger’s father was murdered, and where Killmonger became a victim of Wakanda’s own form of imperialism. He turns the condemned apartment complex into a Wakandan outreach center for at-risk African American youth, thus transforming a painful memory into an opportunity for healing. (This gesture evokes Coogler’s own desire to bring film business to Oakland as an alternative to crime.)


When the fatally injured Killmonger is offered the opportunity to heal, he responds: “Bury me in the ocean with my ancestors who jumped from ships, ’cause they knew death was better than bondage.” His ultimate fate, despite his best efforts, is to remain adrift — pushed out to sea by the two Americas that could have cared for him but didn’t. T’Challa’s new mission is stop another Killmonger from ever being created — not through pre-emptive violence, but through kindness.


Eric Stevens was born in Oakland. Killmonger was born under a makeshift hoop, gazing up at a Wakandan airship that left him behind, slipping away in the dead of night as his father was killed. That same royal airship returns to this spot decades later, this time in full view of the Oakland youth, bringing with it the promise of a better future, the kind of promise young Eric Stevens was never afforded. The film’s final moments involve a similar young boy under that very same hoop, his future hanging in the balance. But rather than violence and abandonment, he’s offered the promise of Wakanda — what the fictional fantasy of Wakanda represents, and, by proxy, what America ought to represent at its best: hope, innovation, opportunity, aspiration for Black youth upon seeing Blackness excel. It’s as if Black Panther is speaking about Black Panther itself and all the avenues it has opened. “Who are you?” the boy asks as he approaches T’Challa, eyes wide with wonder. The king only smiles, for he knows the answer is possibility."


https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/02/23/in-black-panther-american-dreams-and-american-nightmares-clash/ (https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/02/23/in-black-panther-american-dreams-and-american-nightmares-clash/)

A great article.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 25, 2018, 01:31:13 pm
But breh, when you gon watch the movie tho? Lol

Tonight:) finally
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ture on February 25, 2018, 01:46:48 pm
But breh, when you gon watch the movie tho? Lol

Tonight:) finally

Good to hear. Not too long await all things considered. Looking forward to your insights, Bro.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 25, 2018, 03:41:32 pm
But breh, when you gon watch the movie tho? Lol

Tonight:) finally

Good to hear. Not too long await all things considered. Looking forward to your insights, Bro.

My wife is totally awesome, she knew I had been waiting for this movie and watching it for 2 year's go through development, and side i pretty much came to peace that o would have to wait till it came out on Blu-ray or Wait till my son was older, she said randomly I should go because she knows how important it is to me
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 25, 2018, 06:46:57 pm
This guy articulated a lot of how i felt about the movie.  And why i give the side eye to certain people who would question Chadwick's performance.

https://www.cnet.com/news/black-panther-best-moments-i-cant-stop-thinking-about/ (https://www.cnet.com/news/black-panther-best-moments-i-cant-stop-thinking-about/)

9 'Black Panther' moments I can't stop thinking about


Here are my favorite moments from "Black Panther" in the order they appear. There are at least 100 more moments that deserve to be on this list, but unfortunately the Time Stone is still tucked safely away in Kamar-Taj (last I checked), and I would rather prioritize seeing the movie another half dozen times right now.

1. Welcome to Wakanda


What happens: T'Challa, Okoye and Nakia fly into Wakanda.

Why it's on the list: This is the first time we see Wakanda in the film, and in the MCU. And it's worth the wait. As the sun rises on T'Challa and Nakia, powerful African vocals deliver Ludwig Göransson's incredible score. Okeye proudly tells T'Challa and Nakia, "We are home." The ship decloaks and flies over the Wakandan outskirts, revealing a deep majestic canyon and a taste of the film's amazing cinematography by Rachel Morrison, an Oscar nominee for "Mudbound." The ship then swoops through a valley where we see herds of animals rushing, almost as if welcoming the king back home. The herders themselves wave as the ship flies by. My favorite images from this scene, though, are the Border Tribesmen on horseback, racing along, signaling to the ship.

Drum beats reach a fever pitch, and T'Challa's line, "This never gets old," mirrors how I will likely feel about this scene even 20 years from now. Finally, the ship dives right into the hillside and climactically breaks through the holographic barrier to reveal Wakanda in all its glory as the horns come barreling into the score.

I shed manly tears experiencing these first shots of Wakanda. The scene did not disappoint.

2. The Challenge Day ceremony

What happens: The Dora Milaje, the four tribes and T'Challa's family festively dance and drain the river in preparation for T'Challa to arrive to his coronation.

Why it's on the list: This scene, an instant classic, is the reason to see a spectacle film. Once again, the music is key. It's festive at first and then builds to a majestic high (there's a lot of majesty in this score) as T'Challa exits the ship to the sound of everyone chanting his name. T'Challa takes a moment to truly appreciate what a big deal this is as he looks around at his fellow Wakandans swaying and bobbing in celebration of their soon-to-be new king. This scene could have easily been ruined by a voiceover preemptively explaining the lore of the challenge, but the filmmakers are smart enough to just let a scene be.
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I loved every aspect of this -- from the symbolic shot of the spaceship leaving the frame to the effects when his powers are stripped away as everyone rhythmically shrugs their shoulders (god, I love that detail). This is also when you first get to see Ruth E. Carter's incredibly vibrant, eclectic costumes penetrate the screen.

It feels like nothing I've ever seen before.

3. Shuri names her new invention

What happens: Shuri introduces new footwear to her brother.

Why it's on the list: This whole Shuri as "Q" James Bond scene is one of the most entertaining, but my favorite joke is Shuri's meta sneakers joke. No, not the "What are those?!!" one, although I quite enjoyed that one even before I knew it was a Vine reference. The other shoe joke about her new "sneakers."

What sold me was not just Letitia Wright's brilliant delivery, but Chadwick Boseman's reaction and then her response to his reaction. It's subtle and easy to miss. Watch both actors next time you see it. Their performances in this scene, and especially this moment, are brilliant.

4. Killmonger walks to the throne


What happens: Yes, literally just that.

Why it's on the list:  This is the best shot in the movie. Everything about it is incredibly expressive: the music, the crazy rotating camera angle, the acting (Michael B. Jordan's stylish swagger as he heads to the throne is noticeably different from the way the other Wakandans carry themselves), the sandals he's wearing. Wakanda has just been turned on its ear and this shot captures that perfectly.

5. M'Baku threatens Ross

What happens: Everett Ross, played by Martin Freeman, starts speaking, but gets cut off by Winston Duke's M'Baku.

Why it's on the list: Winston Duke's perfect comic timing is everything here. When Freeman starts talking, I cringed. I expected that tired cliche of the outsider explaining things to an antagonist in a way the main characters can't, getting them out of a bind. "Mr. M'Baku I'm not from around here, but if there's one thing I do know is that T'Challa..." UGH, no thanks!
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But when M'Baku and the rest of the Jabbari basically bark him into submission, I was beyond relieved. And then, M'Baku threatens to feed Ross to his children. The implications of that line evoked too many "African savage" stereotypes for me. A big African black man threatening to feed the feeble white man to his assumably cannibalistic children?

But Ryan Coogler is a genius and I should have trusted him. He deftly subverted my expectation, and what followed was my favorite joke and delivery in the entire movie. It brings the house down every time I've seen it. Vegetarians, indeed.

6. T'Challa vs. Killmonger 1

What happens: T'Challa and Killmonger fight for the throne of Wakanda.

Why it's on the list: This is an incredible fight, though the first time I watched it, I wasn't really feeling it. It didn't hit me like a Winter Soldier kind of fight, which I guess is what I was expecting? But every time after that, it got better and better. I realized it tells a very specific story. The way the fight builds, T'Challa has a couple of chances to end it early, but instead shows mercy. As Erik gets the upper hand and you slowly realize T'Challa's not going to win, it's heartbreaking. The almost deafening score punctuates this.
Black Panther vs. Killmonger

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The knee to the head, the punch to the gut. Killmonger's taunting question: "Is this your king?!" Nakia getting the Queen Mother and Shuri away. If you've watched this scene and you thought the fight was boring, watch it again and pay attention to the small details. Incredible.

This tweet perfectly mirrors my feelings on it:

7. Killmonger's vision


What happens: Erik Killmonger goes through the coronation ritual to become the new Black Panther.

Why it's on the list: This is, full stop, the best scene in the movie, from the way it's shot, again to the music, to the editing and writing choices. Namely the choice to use the kid version of Killmonger to talk to his dad. Erik has never gotten over the pain of losing his father. He's still that kid who found his father killed by the king of Wakanda all those years ago.

Full disclosure: I've never seen an episode of "This is Us," but I'm now a huge Sterling K. Brown fan because of this movie, and mostly because of this scene. He kills it here and Michael B. Jordan is impressive, but it's child actor Seth Carr who makes this scene. His delivery of "People die ... that's just the way it is around here" is perfect. And as a guy who grew up on the west side of Chicago in the '80s and '90s, is something that's incredibly relatable for me.

8. The Dora Milaje trap Killmonger

What happens: Three members of the Dora Milaje trap Killmonger to attempt to remove his suit.

Why it's on the list: This moment speaks directly to me. One of the things I love in superhero comics is seeing highly skilled but otherwise regular humans believably keeping up with (and sometimes even beating) superpowered individuals. (See a depowered Storm defeating Cyclops for leadership of the X-Men in "Uncanny X-Men #201.")
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In this scene, Killmonger has the powers of the Black Panther and one of his suits, yet three Dora (who don't have superpowers, just powerful weapons and know how to work as a group) are able to trap him with their spears and nearly take him out. He ultimately uses the powers of the suit to break free, but this sequence made the Dora even cooler than they already were.

I also have to believe writers Ryan Coogler and Joe Robert Cole are also wrestling fans, as this is textbook "looking good in defeat," where a character comes close to beating another, stronger character, but is ultimately defeated, yet still having earned the fans' respect.

9. The final scene

What happens: T'Challa and Shuri visit Oakland.

Why it's on the list:  T'Challa, forever changed by Erik Killmonger, comes to Oakland to start to slowly, thoughtfully help struggling black and poor people out in the world.

This scene impacted me in a way I didn't expect. It speaks to the 14-year-old version of me who wrote my own stories about cool sci-fi stuff happening in my neighborhood. In my stories, the main protagonist, the guy with the coolest weapon and fighting ability, was always black, because I frankly didn't see that enough in movies. Seeing this dramatized in a movie was like seeing a dream literally come true. It was an extremely emotionally complex moment. As the credits rolled, so did my tears.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 25, 2018, 06:50:16 pm
For example, Shuri was fantastic but it was the back and forth with her brother that amplified the scene.

"What are THOSE??" And then cut to BP gleefully showing his open toed shoes that caused the crowd to erupt.  Or him kicking the suit the 1st time and  Shuri's reaction to him kicking her stuff.  Or him kicking it the second time, and his "delete that footage" line that had the crowd roaring in laughter.

To try to separate the back n forth dynamic between the two and downplay Chadwick's presence there comes across as very suspicious to me.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 25, 2018, 06:57:10 pm
And my personal favorite scene of the movie was Challenge day, particularly the scene where the studio music is cut and all you hear are the Wakandans chanting his name as the camera focuses behind him as he walks out of his ship to center stage, full tribal paint on.  That moment was chillin, and Chadwick's stage presence was powerful and regal
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 25, 2018, 07:02:39 pm
M'Baku's appearance in that scene was also powerful and "fight or fright" inducing, but the way they cut to T'Challa and his stone cold predator glare at the Jabari tribe's interruption... again the stage presence was gawdly. 

Again i give the side eye to people who question this.

T'Challa was much more layered, nuanced, and thought provoking than say Bruce Wayne in the Dark Knight movie... who was a complete after thought to Heath Ledger.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 25, 2018, 07:14:31 pm
Wonder what Cinemasins (Everything Wrong With), Honest Trailers and How it should have Ended are going to do with Black Panther?!?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Kimoyo on February 25, 2018, 07:15:20 pm
You are dead on the money MM.  Loved the film!

Was Killmonger's girlfriend supposed to be Tilda Johnson, Deadly Nightshade in the film, anyone?
Would seem like a serious waste of a character if so?

Peace,

Mont
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 25, 2018, 07:21:48 pm
10 minutes.. that's when Bp Starts. I know it's good sl but I'm still nervous!  But I'm ready to be blown away
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Emperorjones on February 25, 2018, 07:41:09 pm
You are dead on the money MM.  Loved the film!

Was Killmonger's girlfriend supposed to be Tilda Johnson, Deadly Nightshade in the film, anyone?
Would seem like a serious waste of a character if so?

Peace,

Mont


I think that was the original plan. The actress put out on social media that she was Johnson, but had to pull that back. And they changed her name for the film. Nightshade will be in Luke Cage Season 2.

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Linda (http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Linda)

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Gabrielle_Dennis (http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Gabrielle_Dennis)

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Tilda_Johnson (http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Tilda_Johnson)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 25, 2018, 10:48:00 pm
Wow. Saw Black Panther... That was amazing. I gotta say, my only regret is that I read spoiler's, but cotdamn that was the best Marvel Movie ever. It felt like it had so much more substance to it then other super hero movies, the scenery was beautiful, I didn't cry in the first part but dammit did my heart soar and feel pride for my heritage, my favorite scenes were on warrior falls for Sure, those were also probably the best choreographed fights in all of the marvel movies . They felt gritty and raw, not advanced tech, no superpower shenanigans, steel on steel combat..

The weight behind the words, and the scenes were do powerful. I truly felt bad for Erik. I kind of wish he didn't die. It had to be done of course but I felt for the dude but that scene with the sunset with him and Tchallas Actually got me teared up a bit, it was a very powerful scene and very symbolic considering that he gave Erik a proper burial and to me was him correcting his father's sins  with his brother.. Tchalla.. my Man... Powerful, I know Okoye Nakia and Shuri were scene stealers but Tchalla commanded every scene. That, is how you show Tchalla vulnerable, T'chadwick nailed his role that dude can bring the house down, real weight behind the tears and you can feel his pain in both encounters and sympathize with him (same with Eriks scene with his father). Honestly I don't get how people thought Tchalla looked bad with his fight with Erik. He was distraught, Shuri yelled at him to snap out of it to, because you could tell he wasn't strolling with that same confidence he was with M'Baku (BTW I want this M'Baku in the comics please!) But I still think he did well for a guy who just had his image of his father crushed.

My only complaint? The movie felt too short. And by that I mean that I didn't want it to end. There was less action in the movie then other Marvel films (or maybe not because the first movies aren't super action heavy ad the sequels) but I felt the action mattered and felt more complementary then required. I was so engrossed by the heavy themes I didn't need a ton of over the top action and explosions. It was a serious movie with action both super hero type and political with a powerful message about current climates in Black communities. The ending was so inspiring.

I could go on and on but it's late. 20/10 for me though.


Wakanda Forever!!!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 26, 2018, 01:38:51 am
Glad you enjoyed the movie Brother Ezyo. Agree with a lot that you said, especially the fight scenes. I honestly loved the choreography, especially during both Warrior Falls battles, and the battle in the Nigerian (I think it was Sambisa) forest. T'Challa's fighting style was so fluid and he was literally flipping and rolling around, yet kicking ass and send guys flying with punches. WITH PUNCHES! I haven't even seen Cap do that. There's also the beautiful cartwheel kick T'Challa delivers to M'Baku's face when he stabbed T'Challa with his battle staff. That got a very loud "OHHHHH" during my showing.

And I have to agree with you and Mortal Man both. Like, it's easy to say Okoye and Nakia stole the scenes because they're probably the most three dimensional supporting women in superhero movies today, and it's easy to say Shuri stole the scenes because she had the funny one-liners. But T'Challa seriously held his own and really got to show his acting chops. I had no idea the guy had great comedic timing as evidenced by the "Delete that footage!" line and also when he was talking about his sandals, or reacting to Shuri calling those new shoes "sneakers". None of those scenes would have been as great if Chadwick couldn't pull off those scenes properly.

Back to the first Warrior Falls battle, I loved how T'Challa just made M'Baku keep quiet while he was talking smack about T'Challa and Wakanda. I mean M'Baku had to be my favourite supporting character, but T'Challa remaining regal as ever yet still showing emotions throughout made this movie for me. Even when T'Challa got on his knees in front spirit T'Chaka, overcome with emotion, he still came across as a king. I can't think of any other young black actor who could have pulled that off, except for maybe John Kani's son Atandwa Kani, who showed that same kind of presence during his scenes (and bears an uncanny resemblance to Chadwick).

There's a lot to miss in this film. I just now noticed that when T'Challa comes back to Wakanda after rescuing Nakia and faces M'Baku at Warrior Falls, the sun is rising to symbolize his rise to the throne. But when facing and loosing to Killmonger, the sun is setting to symbolize him loosing the throne. Little things like that are what make me love this movie, and what Coogler and Robert Cole wrote in their script.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Hypestyle on February 26, 2018, 04:46:04 am
I really hope that Luke Cage gets to visit in part 2.  We'll see.

villains for next time?  Moses Magnum, Achebe?

I would also like to see Mephisto, and a sequence that incorporates the climax to how T'Challa defeated him in Priest's first arc.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 26, 2018, 04:49:25 am
Wonder what Cinemasins (Everything Wrong With), Honest Trailers and How it should have Ended are going to do with Black Panther?!?

How it Should have Ended?

Ending #1: right after T'chaka kills his brother. "Zuri, go pick up the boy, lets go home" The End

Ending #2: Killmonger "I want my blood right, to fight for the throne!" T'challa: "no, take him to prison" the end

Ending #3: "Ross take out the leaving planes!" Ross: or I can just shoot killmonger? ross shoots killmonger dead, tchalla tells planes to come home. the end

That seems like their type of humor.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 26, 2018, 05:03:30 am


My only complaint? The movie felt too short. And by that I mean that I didn't want it to end.


Wakanda Forever!!!


The movie really did fly by. and this was the longest MCU movie yet (IW will be longer).

I remember when T'challa appeared from the shot down plane and I was like "wait, we are at the third act? already?"

The movie never felt long. Entirely gripping from the opening sand story scene.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Hypestyle on February 26, 2018, 05:06:47 am
I hope (probably in vain) for an extended cut on the DVD, but I hope lots of deleted scenes are included with the dvd.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 26, 2018, 05:15:59 am
Wonder what Cinemasins (Everything Wrong With), Honest Trailers and How it should have Ended are going to do with Black Panther?!?

How it Should have Ended?

Ending #1: right after T'chaka kills his brother. "Zuri, go pick up the boy, lets go home" The End

Ending #2: Killmonger "I want my blood right, to fight for the throne!" T'challa: "no, take him to prison" the end

Ending #3: "Ross take out the leaving planes!" Ross: or I can just shoot killmonger? ross shoots killmonger dead, tchalla tells planes to come home. the end

That seems like their type of humor.

 I definitely could see that a version of that first one.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 26, 2018, 05:16:49 am
I could also see Storm showing up during that final kiss.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Hypestyle on February 26, 2018, 05:19:43 am
I'll see the film again soon.. but for the moment, I forgot--

Did Killmonger ever directly ask why Wakanda didn't intervene in the slave trades?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 26, 2018, 05:25:26 am
M'Baku's appearance in that scene was also powerful and "fight or fright" inducing, but the way they cut to T'Challa and his stone cold predator glare at the Jabari tribe's interruption... again the stage presence was gawdly. 

Again i give the side eye to people who question this.

T'Challa was much more layered, nuanced, and thought provoking than say Bruce Wayne in the Dark Knight movie... who was a complete after thought to Heath Ledger.

It's because they have nothing left.

Haters and Unfans keep waiting for the next shoe to drop to prove this movie aint good

- people said the RT scores were biased becasue the movie was black. Nope, it really was good
- It wouldn't make 100mil opening weekend. It couldn't beat deadpool. "oh its not fair its a 4 day weekend." Oh, it only made so much becasue celebrities bought tickets for people. blah blah blah... nope 200+ mil
- "nobody will want to see it twice. People are just going once because its an event movie." Nope... second weekend had the lowest drop in sales of any MCU film. And only the third film with triple digit second weekend.
- "China will sink the movie." ........... ruh roh! higher pre sales than Spider-Man


So now they gotta find something else to moan and complain about.

Just wait til the Storm fans come out of the woodwork again. right now they are too shook by what happened.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 26, 2018, 05:26:00 am
I'll see the film again soon.. but for the moment, I forgot--

Did Killmonger ever directly ask why Wakanda didn't intervene in the slave trades?

no
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 26, 2018, 06:02:35 am
Wonder what Cinemasins (Everything Wrong With), Honest Trailers and How it should have Ended are going to do with Black Panther?!?

I can see Honest Trailers doing something like "Meet T'Challa the Black Panther, who's part Iron Man ("I bought this building, and that building, and that one also," compared to IM's "How quickly can we buy this buidling?! in Age of Ultron), part Captain America (showing him kick W'Kabi really hard), part Thor (showing him sit on the throne), part Batman (dropping out of the Royal Talon Fighter and throwing the EMP beads), part Spider-Man video game (running on the side of the wall in Busan), part James Bond (Casino fight scene), part actual jungle cat (on the tree in Sambisa forest)." They'll probably talk about Shuri being funny too and Killmonger's motivations as well. They'll also compare it to Thor: Ragnarok. Honestly (no pun intended), unless they don't try hard enough their trailers for good films are rarely funny. The Civil War one comes to mind.

CinemaSins will definitely be harsh and nitpick, and that's kinda their thing.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 26, 2018, 06:05:15 am
Bruh... didn't even notice this on first watch and I have been dying to see this panel recreated in live action

(https://image.ibb.co/mkgHXc/ezgif_5_61c799233b.gif)
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2mx0kco.png)

I think it's because I had tears in my eyes during this scene lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 26, 2018, 06:15:38 am
Wonder what Cinemasins (Everything Wrong With), Honest Trailers and How it should have Ended are going to do with Black Panther?!?

I can see Honest Trailers doing something like "Meet T'Challa the Black Panther, who's part Iron Man ("I bought this building, and that building, and that one also," compared to IM's "How quickly can we buy this buidling?! in Age of Ultron), part Captain America (showing him kick W'Kabi really hard), part Thor (showing him sit on the throne), part Batman (dropping out of the Royal Talon Fighter and throwing the EMP beads), part Spider-Man video game (running on the side of the wall in Busan), part James Bond (Casino fight scene), part actual jungle cat (on the tree in Sambisa forest)." They'll probably talk about Shuri being funny too and Killmonger's motivations as well. They'll also compare it to Thor: Ragnarok. Honestly (no pun intended), unless they don't try hard enough their trailers for good films are rarely funny. The Civil War one comes to mind.

CinemaSins will definitely be harsh and nitpick, and that's kinda their thing.

THey will compare black panther to Lion King guaranteed

and yeah, I love Honest Trailers but it is better for movies that aren't good
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 26, 2018, 06:28:53 am
Wonder what Cinemasins (Everything Wrong With), Honest Trailers and How it should have Ended are going to do with Black Panther?!?

I can see Honest Trailers doing something like "Meet T'Challa the Black Panther, who's part Iron Man ("I bought this building, and that building, and that one also," compared to IM's "How quickly can we buy this buidling?! in Age of Ultron), part Captain America (showing him kick W'Kabi really hard), part Thor (showing him sit on the throne), part Batman (dropping out of the Royal Talon Fighter and throwing the EMP beads), part Spider-Man video game (running on the side of the wall in Busan), part James Bond (Casino fight scene), part actual jungle cat (on the tree in Sambisa forest)." They'll probably talk about Shuri being funny too and Killmonger's motivations as well. They'll also compare it to Thor: Ragnarok. Honestly (no pun intended), unless they don't try hard enough their trailers for good films are rarely funny. The Civil War one comes to mind.

CinemaSins will definitely be harsh and nitpick, and that's kinda their thing.

THey will compare black panther to Lion King guaranteed

and yeah, I love Honest Trailers but it is better for movies that aren't good

Ah I forgot to put the "part Simba" bit with the Astral Plane thing. I was doing that because they did it to Batman in BvS, which I found funny.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 26, 2018, 06:41:05 am
were they saying Ancestoral  or Astral plane?

I thought they were saying ancestor but the accents were thick so I couldn't tell
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 26, 2018, 07:00:29 am
were they saying Ancestoral  or Astral plane?

I thought they were saying ancestor but the accents were thick so I couldn't tell

My bad, it's Ancestral not Astral
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 26, 2018, 08:01:02 am
And my personal favorite scene of the movie was Challenge day, particularly the scene where the studio music is cut and all you hear are the Wakandans chanting his name as the camera focuses behind him as he walks out of his ship to center stage, full tribal paint on.  That moment was chillin, and Chadwick's stage presence was powerful and regal

Everything about the coronation/first tribal challenge was perfection.

The beginning and end of the fight... with T'challa stone cold accepting the challenge before M'baku even stopped talking... to the end, where T'challa shows mercy and the fact he is a king by telling M'baku his people need him... but at the same time willing to choke the life out of him if he didn't tap out.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Hypestyle on February 26, 2018, 08:07:48 am
I'll see the film again soon.. but for the moment, I forgot--

Did Killmonger ever directly ask why Wakanda didn't intervene in the slave trades?

no

Curious.  That could have made for an interesting exchange. Ah well... :-)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 26, 2018, 08:38:37 am
Don't know if its canon, but Hudlin talked about it in his first annual.

They bought and freed slaves. Trained them to sink slave ships.
But when the colonial powers found out they sent 10 waves of armies to attack the Wakandans. So the BP of the time offered peace instead of going to full scale war.

Obviously they couldn't go to war as that would have change history and wouldn't be "Marvel outside your window ". The same way Cap is in WW2, but he usually fight Hydra instead of participating in the big battles.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 26, 2018, 09:39:24 am
Wow. Saw Black Panther... That was amazing. I gotta say, my only regret is that I read spoiler's, but cotdamn that was the best Marvel Movie ever. It felt like it had so much more substance to it then other super hero movies, the scenery was beautiful, I didn't cry in the first part but dammit did my heart soar and feel pride for my heritage, my favorite scenes were on warrior falls for Sure, those were also probably the best choreographed fights in all of the marvel movies . They felt gritty and raw, not advanced tech, no superpower shenanigans, steel on steel combat..

The weight behind the words, and the scenes were do powerful. I truly felt bad for Erik. I kind of wish he didn't die. It had to be done of course but I felt for the dude but that scene with the sunset with him and Tchallas Actually got me teared up a bit, it was a very powerful scene and very symbolic considering that he gave Erik a proper burial and to me was him correcting his father's sins  with his brother.. Tchalla.. my Man... Powerful, I know Okoye Nakia and Shuri were scene stealers but Tchalla commanded every scene. That, is how you show Tchalla vulnerable, T'chadwick nailed his role that dude can bring the house down, real weight behind the tears and you can feel his pain in both encounters and sympathize with him (same with Eriks scene with his father). Honestly I don't get how people thought Tchalla looked bad with his fight with Erik. He was distraught, Shuri yelled at him to snap out of it to, because you could tell he wasn't strolling with that same confidence he was with M'Baku (BTW I want this M'Baku in the comics please!) But I still think he did well for a guy who just had his image of his father crushed.

My only complaint? The movie felt too short. And by that I mean that I didn't want it to end. There was less action in the movie then other Marvel films (or maybe not because the first movies aren't super action heavy ad the sequels) but I felt the action mattered and felt more complementary then required. I was so engrossed by the heavy themes I didn't need a ton of over the top action and explosions. It was a serious movie with action both super hero type and political with a powerful message about current climates in Black communities. The ending was so inspiring.

I could go on and on but it's late. 20/10 for me though.


Wakanda Forever!!!


Post-BP Movie Ezyo finally arrived! 

Praise Bast!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 26, 2018, 09:46:46 am
M'Baku's appearance in that scene was also powerful and "fight or fright" inducing, but the way they cut to T'Challa and his stone cold predator glare at the Jabari tribe's interruption... again the stage presence was gawdly. 

Again i give the side eye to people who question this.

T'Challa was much more layered, nuanced, and thought provoking than say Bruce Wayne in the Dark Knight movie... who was a complete after thought to Heath Ledger.

It's because they have nothing left.

Haters and Unfans keep waiting for the next shoe to drop to prove this movie aint good

- people said the RT scores were biased becasue the movie was black. Nope, it really was good
- It wouldn't make 100mil opening weekend. It couldn't beat deadpool. "oh its not fair its a 4 day weekend." Oh, it only made so much becasue celebrities bought tickets for people. blah blah blah... nope 200+ mil
- "nobody will want to see it twice. People are just going once because its an event movie." Nope... second weekend had the lowest drop in sales of any MCU film. And only the third film with triple digit second weekend.
- "China will sink the movie." ........... ruh roh! higher pre sales than Spider-Man


So now they gotta find something else to moan and complain about.

Just wait til the Storm fans come out of the woodwork again. right now they are too shook by what happened.

Goes back to my conversation with 4sake, that comic book "fans" are really largely just pieces of sh*t that give the small minority of sane ones a bad name.

I saw some reactionary videos from non-comic book fans, and particularly african girls, and they loved the pacing, were captivated from beginning to end, and loved T'Challa/Nakia.  I also some of the reviews from credible journalist sites and they praised Boseman's performance.

Then i read some of the "professional" comic book youtuber sites, and i'm hearing stuff about pacing issues in the beginning and T'Challa was the least interesting/no arc? 

Pacing issues in the beginning??  ??? You mean the entire set  up Wakanda, the Challenge Day and T'Challa's conversation with his father, Nakia, and W'Kabi that set up his entire arc?  ???

Those same dumbies say that it was Killmonger's dream T'Challa was carrying out at the end when clearly it was Nakia's, which was established early in the movie.

And lowkey they jealous that BP has Shuri, which is why the comic nerds are so desperate to fling her to Iron Man or Peter Parker

Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 26, 2018, 11:06:05 am
M'Baku's appearance in that scene was also powerful and "fight or fright" inducing, but the way they cut to T'Challa and his stone cold predator glare at the Jabari tribe's interruption... again the stage presence was gawdly. 

Again i give the side eye to people who question this.

T'Challa was much more layered, nuanced, and thought provoking than say Bruce Wayne in the Dark Knight movie... who was a complete after thought to Heath Ledger.

It's because they have nothing left.

Haters and Unfans keep waiting for the next shoe to drop to prove this movie aint good

- people said the RT scores were biased becasue the movie was black. Nope, it really was good
- It wouldn't make 100mil opening weekend. It couldn't beat deadpool. "oh its not fair its a 4 day weekend." Oh, it only made so much becasue celebrities bought tickets for people. blah blah blah... nope 200+ mil
- "nobody will want to see it twice. People are just going once because its an event movie." Nope... second weekend had the lowest drop in sales of any MCU film. And only the third film with triple digit second weekend.
- "China will sink the movie." ........... ruh roh! higher pre sales than Spider-Man


So now they gotta find something else to moan and complain about.

Just wait til the Storm fans come out of the woodwork again. right now they are too shook by what happened.

Goes back to my conversation with 4sake, that comic book "fans" are really largely just pieces of sh*t that give the small minority of sane ones a bad name.

I saw some reactionary videos from non-comic book fans, and particularly african girls, and they loved the pacing, were captivated from beginning to end, and loved T'Challa/Nakia.  I also some of the reviews from credible journalist sites and they praised Boseman's performance.

Then i read some of the "professional" comic book youtuber sites, and i'm hearing stuff about pacing issues in the beginning and T'Challa was the least interesting/no arc? 

Pacing issues in the beginning??  ??? You mean the entire set  up Wakanda, the Challenge Day and T'Challa's conversation with his father, Nakia, and W'Kabi that set up his entire arc?  ???

Those same dumbies say that it was Killmonger's dream T'Challa was carrying out at the end when clearly it was Nakia's, which was established early in the movie.

And lowkey they jealous that BP has Shuri, which is why the comic nerds are so desperate to fling her to Iron Man or Peter Parker

yeah, the pacing issues thing was weird. I thought the movie moved at a pretty quick pace.


Hey you know what ended up being low key great? That spider-man came out first.

You know damn well people would just be saying "well, it was because Black Panther was in CW, so its not a real debut/solo movie!"

But they already went and praised spider-man homecoming over and over and over again about being the highest grossing solo film, blah blah blah

so they can't turn around and say that sh*t now. And Spider-Man had f*ckING IRON MAN IN IT!!!

while Black Panther was 100% stand alone. Not even any infinity war stuff!

There is nothing to criticize this movie with or try to cut it down somehow. All bases are covered.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 26, 2018, 11:17:07 am
M'Baku's appearance in that scene was also powerful and "fight or fright" inducing, but the way they cut to T'Challa and his stone cold predator glare at the Jabari tribe's interruption... again the stage presence was gawdly. 

Again i give the side eye to people who question this.

T'Challa was much more layered, nuanced, and thought provoking than say Bruce Wayne in the Dark Knight movie... who was a complete after thought to Heath Ledger.

It's because they have nothing left.

Haters and Unfans keep waiting for the next shoe to drop to prove this movie aint good

- people said the RT scores were biased becasue the movie was black. Nope, it really was good
- It wouldn't make 100mil opening weekend. It couldn't beat deadpool. "oh its not fair its a 4 day weekend." Oh, it only made so much becasue celebrities bought tickets for people. blah blah blah... nope 200+ mil
- "nobody will want to see it twice. People are just going once because its an event movie." Nope... second weekend had the lowest drop in sales of any MCU film. And only the third film with triple digit second weekend.
- "China will sink the movie." ........... ruh roh! higher pre sales than Spider-Man


So now they gotta find something else to moan and complain about.

Just wait til the Storm fans come out of the woodwork again. right now they are too shook by what happened.

Goes back to my conversation with 4sake, that comic book "fans" are really largely just pieces of sh*t that give the small minority of sane ones a bad name.

I saw some reactionary videos from non-comic book fans, and particularly african girls, and they loved the pacing, were captivated from beginning to end, and loved T'Challa/Nakia.  I also some of the reviews from credible journalist sites and they praised Boseman's performance.

Then i read some of the "professional" comic book youtuber sites, and i'm hearing stuff about pacing issues in the beginning and T'Challa was the least interesting/no arc? 

Pacing issues in the beginning??  ??? You mean the entire set  up Wakanda, the Challenge Day and T'Challa's conversation with his father, Nakia, and W'Kabi that set up his entire arc?  ???

Those same dumbies say that it was Killmonger's dream T'Challa was carrying out at the end when clearly it was Nakia's, which was established early in the movie.

And lowkey they jealous that BP has Shuri, which is why the comic nerds are so desperate to fling her to Iron Man or Peter Parker

yeah, the pacing issues thing was weird. I thought the movie moved at a pretty quick pace.


Hey you know what ended up being low key great? That spider-man came out first.

You know damn well people would just be saying "well, it was because Black Panther was in CW, so its not a real debut/solo movie!"

But they already went and praised spider-man homecoming over and over and over again about being the highest grossing solo film, blah blah blah

so they can't turn around and say that sh*t now. And Spider-Man had f*ckING IRON MAN IN IT!!!

while Black Panther was 100% stand alone. Not even any infinity war stuff!

There is nothing to criticize this movie with or try to cut it down somehow. All bases are covered.

They want their nightmare to end, but NOPE

(https://media.giphy.com/media/sZgryGTcxRwk0/giphy-downsized-large.gif)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 26, 2018, 12:57:21 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW9PcYFVwAEgKnz.jpg)

OUR BOY HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN INGRAINED IN THE MINDS OF CAT LOVERS
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on February 26, 2018, 01:00:16 pm
naming a cat killmonger is begging for a demon spawn
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 26, 2018, 01:48:28 pm
naming a cat killmonger is begging for a demon spawn

I would call it Furballmonger  :)

Off topic

https://youtu.be/UEhsFEgsI5U

I'm convinced MBJ is secretly a pyromaniac
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 26, 2018, 04:58:05 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW9PcYFVwAEgKnz.jpg)

OUR BOY HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN INGRAINED IN THE MINDS OF CAT LOVERS

You know your A list when cats are getting adopted and named after Characters.. this movie is too lit. I really want to see it again but I don't think my wife will be interesting with me leaving her alone with the kiddos again like that lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 26, 2018, 05:07:24 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW9PcYFVwAEgKnz.jpg)

OUR BOY HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN INGRAINED IN THE MINDS OF CAT LOVERS

You know your A list when cats are getting adopted and named after Characters.. this movie is too lit. I really want to see it again but I don't think my wife will be interesting with me leaving her alone with the kiddos again like that lol

I want to know how many kids this year are going to be named T'Challa and Shuri!!!
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 26, 2018, 05:24:04 pm
I think we'll find out in nine months or so. It did come out around Valentines Day. lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on February 26, 2018, 06:01:06 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW9PcYFVwAEgKnz.jpg)

OUR BOY HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN INGRAINED IN THE MINDS OF CAT LOVERS

You know your A list when cats are getting adopted and named after Characters.. this movie is too lit. I really want to see it again but I don't think my wife will be interesting with me leaving her alone with the kiddos again like that lol

I want to know how many kids this year are going to be named T'Challa and Shuri!!!

I think Erik will Also jump in popularity ad well
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 26, 2018, 07:22:20 pm
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQbN8ymc-fk#)

Everybody just loves each other
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mad Coco G on February 26, 2018, 08:35:16 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW9PcYFVwAEgKnz.jpg)

OUR BOY HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN INGRAINED IN THE MINDS OF CAT LOVERS

You know your A list when cats are getting adopted and named after Characters.. this movie is too lit. I really want to see it again but I don't think my wife will be interesting with me leaving her alone with the kiddos again like that lol



My wife saw it without me.......I feel betrayed
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 27, 2018, 10:01:19 am
https://youtu.be/QdlehknzWEg

This is a very good unscripted rant/review/analysis of Black Panther, and I really like what he said about the political commentary of the film. It's about 30 minutes but it's worth the watch
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Things Fall Apart on February 27, 2018, 11:18:32 am
Bruh... didn't even notice this on first watch and I have been dying to see this panel recreated in live action

([url]https://image.ibb.co/mkgHXc/ezgif_5_61c799233b.gif[/url])
([url]http://i59.tinypic.com/2mx0kco.png[/url])

I think it's because I had tears in my eyes during this scene lol


It would have ruined the tone of the movie, but I would have fallen out if they had someone say "Where he fights, we fight, where he leads, we follow!" Then had someone say "If he eats pizza..."
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on February 27, 2018, 12:33:22 pm
https://twitter.com/mcten/status/968559294332522497 (https://twitter.com/mcten/status/968559294332522497)

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DeYcVm-WTk#)

The powerful reason why LeBron James loved 'Black Panther'
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LeBron James saw Black Panther on Monday and on Tuesday he explained to reporters why it was “one of the greatest movies I’ve ever seen.”

It wasn’t just about the cool action sequences — to James it was more about the lessons we can draw as a society from the movie and the importance of having role models of color.

“For me as a kid growing up, I never thought I would see a black superhero,” he said. “I loved superheroes growing up. I love Batman, I love Superman, I love Spiderman and Iron Man but I never thought I could be them because they were always white Americans. Or white.

 
“So I kind of looked up more to athletes and rappers and people in my neighborhood because they were one of color. So to see how powerful Black Panther is and how powerful his tribe was and his people around him, it gave me a sense of ‘Yes, not only can we be the President of the United States — Barack Obama — we can also be a superhero.’

 
“It’s so dope for me and it’s so dope for my kids to see that.”


It's surreal hearing Lebron James breaking down the philosophy of Wakanda n sh*t lol.

I was smiling like a muthaf*cka
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: 4sake on March 01, 2018, 05:51:39 pm
http://afropunk.com/2018/03/amandla-stenberg-passed-black-panther-due-light-skin-spaces-not-take/ (http://afropunk.com/2018/03/amandla-stenberg-passed-black-panther-due-light-skin-spaces-not-take/)

She made the right choice & isn't a dumb ass like Shipp their for I'll make sure too/continue to support her current & future work..
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on March 01, 2018, 09:28:28 pm
[url]http://afropunk.com/2018/03/amandla-stenberg-passed-black-panther-due-light-skin-spaces-not-take/[/url] ([url]http://afropunk.com/2018/03/amandla-stenberg-passed-black-panther-due-light-skin-spaces-not-take/[/url])

She made the right choice & isn't a dumb ass like Shipp their for I'll make sure too/continue to support her current & future work..


I bet they weren't going to cast her anyway :P
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on March 02, 2018, 06:13:18 am
So guys, I want to update Black Panther's Marvel Cinematic Universe Wikia page, particularly the "Powers and Abilities" and "Equipment" sections.

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Panther (http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Panther)

Most of those feats haven't been updated since Civil War, so I want to add some stuff I can remember as feats from the movie. If you guys have noticed anything I've missed out, let me know.

From what I can remember:

Powers

Enhanced Strength:

Enhanced Durability:

Enhanced Agility:

Enhanced Speed:

Enhanced Reflexes:

Abilities

Genius-Level Intellect:

Master Martial Artists:

Master Acrobat:

Master Taction:

The next one is something I want to add, but I'm not sure if it qualifies.

Master of Stealth:

Equipment
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on March 02, 2018, 06:21:44 am
- strength- he chocked a rhino into submission, lifting the casino thing full of coins, threw a spear 100+ feet in the air to knock out jet

- durability- mbaku stabbed him and he still won the fight


- agility- jumped over border tribe shield wall

- reflexes- in one motion, force pushed ground, grabbed falling spear, and threw it at a jet

- intellect- designed his first vibranium suit

- martial arts- able to beat bucky out of the suit when bucky wasi n murder mode

- equipment- vibranium claws, vibranium weave, kymoyo beads, sneakers
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on March 02, 2018, 07:38:46 am
- strength- he chocked a rhino into submission, lifting the casino thing full of coins, threw a spear 100+ feet in the air to knock out jet

- durability- mbaku stabbed him and he still won the fight


- agility- jumped over border tribe shield wall

- reflexes- in one motion, force pushed ground, grabbed falling spear, and threw it at a jet

- intellect- designed his first vibranium suit

- martial arts- able to beat bucky out of the suit when bucky wasi n murder mode

- equipment- vibranium claws, vibranium weave, kymoyo beads, sneakers

Some of those are already there if you check out the page. I'm not sure about the sneakers because he is never shown using them.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on March 02, 2018, 07:48:06 am
- strength- he chocked a rhino into submission, lifting the casino thing full of coins, threw a spear 100+ feet in the air to knock out jet

- durability- mbaku stabbed him and he still won the fight


- agility- jumped over border tribe shield wall

- reflexes- in one motion, force pushed ground, grabbed falling spear, and threw it at a jet

- intellect- designed his first vibranium suit

- martial arts- able to beat bucky out of the suit when bucky wasi n murder mode

- equipment- vibranium claws, vibranium weave, kymoyo beads, sneakers

Some of those are already there if you check out the page. I'm not sure about the sneakers because he is never shown using them.

he also threw a Tire in the nigeria scene like a golf ball
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on March 02, 2018, 07:55:47 am
durability He fell about 200+ feet with Erik into the mine shaft, landed on his back and got up without seemingly hurt at all.
Survived the throw off Warrior falls

Dropped 75+ feat of of plane to ambush kidnappers

Agility-  jumped off the Lexus car, onto a semi truck and landed on the goons suv, Kinect blasting it and timing his landing to make ot back on his moving car. Can double as an intellect feat.
 
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Salustrade on March 02, 2018, 10:32:05 am
[url]http://afropunk.com/2018/03/amandla-stenberg-passed-black-panther-due-light-skin-spaces-not-take/[/url] ([url]http://afropunk.com/2018/03/amandla-stenberg-passed-black-panther-due-light-skin-spaces-not-take/[/url])

She made the right choice & isn't a dumb ass like Shipp their for I'll make sure too/continue to support her current & future work..


Though I respect her right to excercise her own personal choice I do not agree with the foundational reasoning beneath it.

I am of Nigerian parentage and quite light complecxioned as is the case for many people from my ethnic group hailing from the Eastern region of Nigeria. (Igbo)

Going by this young ladies reasoning, a person like myself would be expected to preclude himself from acting in a similarly themned movie just become I'm light skinned?

What kind of ridiculous thinking is this?
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on March 02, 2018, 02:21:02 pm
- strength- he chocked a rhino into submission, lifting the casino thing full of coins, threw a spear 100+ feet in the air to knock out jet

- durability- mbaku stabbed him and he still won the fight


- agility- jumped over border tribe shield wall

- reflexes- in one motion, force pushed ground, grabbed falling spear, and threw it at a jet

- intellect- designed his first vibranium suit

- martial arts- able to beat bucky out of the suit when bucky wasi n murder mode

- equipment- vibranium claws, vibranium weave, kymoyo beads, sneakers

Some of those are already there if you check out the page. I'm not sure about the sneakers because he is never shown using them.

he also threw a Tire in the nigeria scene like a golf ball

Was it a tire? I remembering slashing off a car door and throwing it. I forgot that too.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on March 02, 2018, 02:22:18 pm
durability He fell about 200+ feet with Erik into the mine shaft, landed on his back and got up without seemingly hurt at all.
Survived the throw off Warrior falls

Dropped 75+ feat of of plane to ambush kidnappers

Agility-  jumped off the Lexus car, onto a semi truck and landed on the goons suv, Kinect blasting it and timing his landing to make ot back on his moving car. Can double as an intellect feat.
 


Ah forgot those ones, but the last feat is there.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on March 02, 2018, 02:28:31 pm
[url]http://afropunk.com/2018/03/amandla-stenberg-passed-black-panther-due-light-skin-spaces-not-take/[/url] ([url]http://afropunk.com/2018/03/amandla-stenberg-passed-black-panther-due-light-skin-spaces-not-take/[/url])

She made the right choice & isn't a dumb ass like Shipp their for I'll make sure too/continue to support her current & future work..


Though I respect her right to excercise her own personal choice I do not agree with the foundational reasoning beneath it.

I am of Nigerian parentage and quite light complecxioned as is the case for many people from my ethnic group hailing from the Eastern region of Nigeria. (Igbo)

Going by this young ladies reasoning, a person like myself would be expected to preclude himself from acting in a similarly themned movie just become I'm light skinned?

What kind of ridiculous thinking is this?


I mean based on Coogler's casting Shuri was the only role I think was auditioned for. Most of the royal family was darker skinned so it might not have made much sense. But I get where you're coming from. I'm Igbo too and my dad is dark, mum is light, and I'm in between.

My problem with her comment is that she's making it seem as if she gave Letitia the role by giving it up. Highly doubt she would have cast anyway. Don't think she could have pulled off the role.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Mortal Man on March 02, 2018, 03:30:21 pm
Colorism is a cousin of racism and a nephew of white supremacy.. especially when it comes to representation.  This is the case in America, Latin countries, and even parts of Afrika, India and Asia with their whole skin bleaching travesty.

So just like the #metoo movement is the culmination of pent-up frustration over decades of misogyny, rape, and casting couch politics finally reaching it's boiling point and scorching every male from the unquestionably guilty (Weinstein) to those preyed upon simply bc a woman found them lame in bed (Aziz Ansari)...

...there is A LOT of pent-up frustration over decades of under representation and unfair treatment for dark skinned women in media, esp when it comes to standards of beauty and what is shown on screen.  So yes, it's not Shipp's fault that she and Halle Berry are light skinned and the white people at Fox would cast a light skinned biracial woman to play Storm over a dark or milk chocolate toned woman every day of the week.

It's not the fault of whoever the actor is that plays Roberto /Sunspot in the new mutants movie that white folks at fox would cast a light bright latino to play him as opposed to a dark skinned latino.

So that these actors/actresses specifically get backlash for being beneficiaries of white supremacy isn't necessarily fair on them.  Am i shedding a tear for them?  Hellll nah.  i'm too busy championing Lupita and Danai and Letitcia... and Ryan Coogler the GAWD for recognizing the situation.

I don't feel bad for that ish, i just recognize that they are in a touch spot [it is what it is] and ultimately the criticism should be directed at the studios and white folks for white washing, and not the light brights who are benefiting over the dark chocolates.

...
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Salustrade on March 02, 2018, 07:08:15 pm
[url]http://afropunk.com/2018/03/amandla-stenberg-passed-black-panther-due-light-skin-spaces-not-take/[/url] ([url]http://afropunk.com/2018/03/amandla-stenberg-passed-black-panther-due-light-skin-spaces-not-take/[/url])

She made the right choice & isn't a dumb ass like Shipp their for I'll make sure too/continue to support her current & future work..


Though I respect her right to excercise her own personal choice I do not agree with the foundational reasoning beneath it.

I am of Nigerian parentage and quite light complecxioned as is the case for many people from my ethnic group hailing from the Eastern region of Nigeria. (Igbo)

Going by this young ladies reasoning, a person like myself would be expected to preclude himself from acting in a similarly themned movie just become I'm light skinned?

What kind of ridiculous thinking is this?


I mean based on Coogler's casting Shuri was the only role I think was auditioned for. Most of the royal family was darker skinned so it might not have made much sense. But I get where you're coming from. I'm Igbo too and my dad is dark, mum is light, and I'm in between.

My problem with her comment is that she's making it seem as if she gave Letitia the role by giving it up. Highly doubt she would have cast anyway. Don't think she could have pulled off the role.


Letitia Wright totally rocked in this role.  8)
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: BlindWedjat on March 04, 2018, 12:20:23 pm
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Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on March 04, 2018, 01:12:08 pm
I really like the use of sand with the technology, it really adds a unique spin on the tech to differentiate ot from Stark tech
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on March 04, 2018, 05:41:10 pm
Third time seeing it. Its so good it keeps majority black audience quiet lol.

Black women near me loooooooved okoye.... and shirtless tchalla lol.

My (white) wife really liked it. Which is weird bc she prefers the lighter toned mcu films like IM, gog, and thor3. She hates einter soldier for instance. She loved shuri (and her fashion) and the music stood out.

She also told me she'd leave me for MBJ, so at least i married an honest gal lol (but she said "im glad black panther killed him and didnt do that let him live hero sh*t")
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: CvilleWakandan on March 04, 2018, 05:56:09 pm
Third time seeing it. Its so good it keeps majority black audience quiet lol.

Black women near me loooooooved okoye.... and shirtless tchalla lol.

My (white) wife really liked it. Which is weird bc she prefers the lighter toned mcu films like IM, gog, and thor3. She hates einter soldier for instance. She loved shuri (and her fashion) and the music stood out.

She also told me she'd leave me for MBJ, so at least i married an honest gal lol (but she said "im glad black panther killed him and didnt do that let him live hero sh*t")

There s a meme about MJB just like that. If you ask your girl if she would leave you for him and she says no it indicates she is a liar. You got a good one.
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: Ezyo on March 04, 2018, 06:54:53 pm
My wife said she would leave me for both T'chadwick and MbJ lol
Title: Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
Post by: MindofShadow on March 29, 2018, 06:25:25 am
hmmm