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Title: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on February 22, 2018, 05:55:42 am
What does the HEF want to see?

What villain?

What tech?

What suit?

What new supporting cast?

How do we get Denzel and Wesley up in this bitch?

Does M'baku stay friend or foe?

Are we still trusting Lip Plate Mafia looking dude?

If Coogler moves on, what director do we want?

Should t'challa make Wakanda the new Avenger's base?

Should any Black Best Friends make an appearance?

Should shuri give Falcon some new vibranium wings?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on February 22, 2018, 06:07:45 am
I've been thinking about this, and I'm still a bit stumped.  I think you want something that opens the story up, and doesn't center as much around Wakanda, which is why my first thought (an adaptation of SWAD) won't work.  On the other hand, something like Enemy of the State might, especially if the story also introduces the exiled princess of the J'Bari (because I want QDJ and MCU!Shuri in the same room).

I think it's only a matter of time before M'Baku has a heel turn as well, which would be another reason to bring QDJ in, as if he is imprisoned/killed, someone will have to take leadership of the Mountain Tribe.

What I don't know yet is who the Big Bad would be.  M'Baku works as The Dragon, but he doesn't have the ambition for a global conspiracy.  It might be time for Achebe....
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on February 22, 2018, 06:09:10 am
Oh, and regarding new tech/suit features... energy daggers and a cloaking device. :D
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on February 22, 2018, 06:11:23 am
part of the problem is that I think IW is going to be the "SWAD" type of movie.

once you have a Thanos lead Black Order invasion... can you really top that on screen the next movie?

I think you have to step away from another "Wakanda civil war" type of situation. I think the enemy has to come from the outside. I am just not sure who.

Sturm und drang + atlantis war type of situation could work
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 22, 2018, 06:11:52 am
What does the HEF want to see?

What villain? -Kraven

What tech? - Prowler

What suit? -Thrice blessed

What new supporting cast? -QDJ

How do we get Denzel and Wesley up in this bitch? - S'Yan and War Dog director

Does M'baku stay friend or foe? -friend

Are we still trusting Lip Plate Mafia looking dude? - yes

If Coogler moves on, what director do we want? - Jordan Peele

Should t'challa make Wakanda the new Avenger's base? - no

Should any Black Best Friends make an appearance? - only if it Luke

Should shuri give Falcon some new vibranium wings?? - if she gives bucky and cap stuff then falcon needs stuff too. lol
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 22, 2018, 06:13:25 am
part of the problem is that I think IW is going to be the "SWAD" type of movie.

once you have a Thanos lead Black Order invasion... can you really top that on screen the next movie?

I think you have to step away from another "Wakanda civil war" type of situation. I think the enemy has to come from the outside. I am just not sure who.

Sturm und drang + atlantis war type of situation could work

I'm thinking a real James Bond adventure. Only need the throne room and the Lab for WK.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on February 22, 2018, 06:17:38 am
i think BP2 should start with the Nakia/T'challa wedding

the coronation of the queen

First first movie started with the coronation of the King. This would be nice synergy

Give us some more ethnic african type celebrations.

plus block storm from existence lol
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on February 22, 2018, 07:36:29 am
some things I hope to see...


- energy daggers are a must

- possible thrice blessed armor equivalent power up (but with real feats this time!) if the bad guy is a bit above his normal power level

- M'baku becomes metahuman via white gorilla blood/god. luke cage strength at a minimum

- shuri gets her vibranium armor she had when she fought Namor

- Panther prowlers

- skybike
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 22, 2018, 10:18:52 am
Let's be honest... What do we want to see in BP2?  "ME!" (I mean that's what each one of us is thinking. 😁)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on February 22, 2018, 10:23:43 am
A wedding would be nice, big middle finger to Storm fans.
Villain? Achebe/Mephisto for a clientesque story. Or T'Challa and Nakia could go on world tour like Hudlin had him and storm do. Have the meet with Namor and sh*t goes down, sparking a world tour/ strum und Drang mix though the Villain I'm not sure

Tech- Daggers, prowlers, thrice blessed for sure (but bthat would only really work if he we're fighting someone like Mephisto, so having blessed armor makes a difference)

Supporting cast Qdj,  for Denzel and Snipes? A replacement for Zuri for sure, and Hatut Zeraze leader? I dunno

Beest friend? Throw in BM in
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on February 22, 2018, 10:33:21 am
Oh yeah... Mephisto the big bad would be perfect.

go mystical with it. You can have a lot of fun with Mephisto's power set. you can bring in Wakandan shamans and stuff. DENZEL CAN BE ZUVARI!!!!

Wesley can be the new leader of hte Border tribe is W'kabi is locked up

And you can end it literally just like Priest did in regards to the panther spirits.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on February 22, 2018, 12:10:49 pm
Biggest omission were energy daggers.

Movie was so great that it didn't really bother me, or rather it did bother me but then i would forget and days would go by before i'd remember again.  Like case in point
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on February 22, 2018, 12:15:21 pm
With the suit, cloaking device just seems obvious.

In fact, cloaking device and Jabari energy shields wouldn't even be a big deal. 

Short range teleportation however... i could see that being Shuri's next "big" James Bond addition.


All those things would make him super OP tho...

(https://m.popkey.co/9636c3/Y9Wqy.gif)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on February 22, 2018, 12:24:06 pm
i think BP2 should start with the Nakia/T'challa wedding

the coronation of the queen

First first movie started with the coronation of the King. This would be nice synergy

Give us some more ethnic african type celebrations.

plus block storm from existence lol

Marriage does seem like the logical next step actually.  Just depends on how much time passes between Infinity War 1&2, and Black Panther 2.

Wakanda accepting refugees and some of them being the Achebe and Zenzi of the world seems likely.

Gotta have a female villain for Okoye and Nakia to fight.  So i could see Zanda as well, from a beefing tribe.

Mephisto's storyline is Chadwick's favorite BP moment, so there's that too, as the big bad.

Namor getting his ass kicked would be cool.. but in that case i'm not sure he'd be a main villain.. as much as the superhero team up thing for a greater villain.. in which case i ain't tryna share that space with him. idk
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on February 22, 2018, 12:27:39 pm
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/00936829c8266a66395c2d96cd8d3813/tumblr_p4ja3lKOPL1s038kqo1_1280.jpg)

Barring death or malice, that marriage coming
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on February 22, 2018, 12:36:18 pm
Short range teleportation however... i could see that being Shuri's next "big" James Bond addition.

I don't know... teleportation is really difficult  to protect against, unless you throw in some forced weakness to nerf it. Miniaturizing the existing cloaking tech, and coming up with a more cinematic twist on the daggers (so they don't look like generic energy blasts) seem like a more natural extrapolation of the tech from BP1.

I'm also not crazy about using Mephisto, because let's face it... once you've single-handedly defeated the actual Devil, where do you go from there? ;)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on February 22, 2018, 12:51:20 pm
Mephisto could be more of a spirit (african lore of sorts??) than the true devil.



Energy daggers... you all know what I want!

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(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e0/81/db/e081db7a0d44a104e26430569df3b545.gif)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/4f/8e/234f8e64bd22b3d229640ed916f3624f.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on February 22, 2018, 12:58:09 pm
Reminds me of Spaceketeers.

(And I'll be stunned if any of you know what that is without looking it up. :) )
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on February 22, 2018, 01:18:36 pm
Short range teleportation however... i could see that being Shuri's next "big" James Bond addition.

I don't know... teleportation is really difficult  to protect against, unless you throw in some forced weakness to nerf it. Miniaturizing the existing cloaking tech, and coming up with a more cinematic twist on the daggers (so they don't look like generic energy blasts) seem like a more natural extrapolation of the tech from BP1.

I'm also not crazy about using Mephisto, because let's face it... once you've single-handedly defeated the actual Devil, where do you go from there? ;)

My only issue with cloaking is that it takes away form him already being super stealthy as it is. As for the daggers? Beware... Come on, Disney owns starwars and Marvel, and the Force push is already used in bp..... modern day Jedi Master Tchalla here  8)

Mephisto could be a demon, like MoS said it's T'chadwicks favorite story, it's gotta shown up in some form
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on February 22, 2018, 01:23:55 pm
Short range teleportation however... i could see that being Shuri's next "big" James Bond addition.

I don't know... teleportation is really difficult  to protect against, unless you throw in some forced weakness to nerf it. Miniaturizing the existing cloaking tech, and coming up with a more cinematic twist on the daggers (so they don't look like generic energy blasts) seem like a more natural extrapolation of the tech from BP1.

I'm also not crazy about using Mephisto, because let's face it... once you've single-handedly defeated the actual Devil, where do you go from there? ;)
I do think cloaking and energy daggers will be the obvious inclusions for BP 2.

I don't think the cloaking will be that big a wow moment (then again...) but the energy daggers, depending on how they do it, would certainly be.  Esp if they do all that extending circus stuff MoS is so fond of seeing.

Teleportation would be a big whoa moment tho, but an OP one i guess, but that depends on what type of teleportation (willy nilly nightcrawler type... or set coordinates coming in hot type).
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on February 22, 2018, 01:27:20 pm
And comes down to the villain, bc often they are either running away from him (Bucky, Klaw) or getting bodied 1 on 20 (Nigerian traffickers, Jabari tribe).  And for those running away, they always end up about to get throat slashed before divine intervention

Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on February 22, 2018, 02:19:17 pm

My only issue with cloaking is that it takes away form him already being super stealthy as it is. As for the daggers? Beware... Come on, Disney owns starwars and Marvel, and the Force push is already used in bp..... modern day Jedi Master Tchalla here  8)

Mephisto could be a demon, like MoS said it's T'chadwicks favorite story, it's gotta shown up in some form


I was thinking something less about stealth, more about tactics, like the cloak used by Rukh in the most recent episode of STAR WARS REBELS.

And I'm not saying we can't use Mephisto (or some African equivalent) at all.  Just not in the second movie.  BP3, maybe.

Actually that works... first movie, protect Wakanda from a basically internal threat.
Second movie,  protect Wakanda from an external foreign threat... say Achebe and the Desturi.
Third movie, protect Wakanda from an extradimensional threat. 

That gives you a nice ramping up of threat level (and an excuse for that thrice-blessed armor, although I'd be happier if it was redesigned to look less like 16th-century German Maximilian armor)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: supreme illuminati on February 22, 2018, 02:40:47 pm

My only issue with cloaking is that it takes away form him already being super stealthy as it is. As for the daggers? Beware... Come on, Disney owns starwars and Marvel, and the Force push is already used in bp..... modern day Jedi Master Tchalla here  8)

Mephisto could be a demon, like MoS said it's T'chadwicks favorite story, it's gotta shown up in some form


I was thinking something less about stealth, more about tactics, like the cloak used by Rukh in the most recent episode of STAR WARS REBELS.

And I'm not saying we can't use Mephisto (or some African equivalent) at all.  Just not in the second movie.  BP3, maybe.

Actually that works... first movie, protect Wakanda from a basically internal threat.
Second movie,  protect Wakanda from an external foreign threat... say Achebe and the Desturi.
Third movie, protect Wakanda from an extradimensional threat. 

That gives you a nice ramping up of threat level (and an excuse for that thrice-blessed armor, although I'd be happier if it was redesigned to look less like 16th-century German Maximilian armor)

My concern about "cloaking"...IF they use it at all...is that they'll make it some form of hybrid PREDATOR/KLINGON BIRD OF PREY Cloaking Device crafted by Shuri.

I'm old skool. As yall see in my fanfic, I prefer my T'Challa to be stealthy all because he's stealthy like that. And yeah, inclusive of tactics to amp his already unequaled, unsurpassed stealth. T'Challa should be widely hailed and acknowledged by acclaim as the stealthiest character in Marvel. In the animated Avengers series they already did that, for all intents and purposes.

But I want it to be clear that T'CHALLA INDEPENDENT OF HIS SUIT IS STUPID STEALTHY. His habit simply amps that which he already naturally has. His mental disciplines which he learned to become Panther? Should allow him to thwart most psionic means of detection. His inherent megagenius should allow him to do the great majority of the rest. His habit comes in when he has to deal with Thanos, Silver Surfer, Supreme Intelligence, etc level senses. Even then, he can come upon them in close quarters ere they're aware of him, a good percentage of the time.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 22, 2018, 03:08:21 pm
Related to this thread:. https://mashable.com/2018/02/22/black-panther-best-favorite-plots-future-sequel-spinoff/?utm_cid=hp-r-1#A7QZibTAIOqg

Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on February 22, 2018, 03:30:38 pm
Brother Supreme:

I understand and accept that you like a T'Challa a bit higher powered than I do.... but what works in comics doesn't always work on screen.

Here's the scene I was talking about.  Imagine a fight like this in broad daylight, with T'Challa popping into and out of visibility:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4RIVM459pE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4RIVM459pE)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 22, 2018, 03:33:23 pm
Responding to Kips post

I only agreed with the Kraven one lol.

If we do a prequel. Make it Tchalla. He was BP for ten years before the movie. Might as well take advantage and do straight action adventure. That way it can come out faster without having to wait for Infinity War sequel.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on February 22, 2018, 03:40:42 pm
How about a prequel exploring the whole T'Nakia romance?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 22, 2018, 03:55:23 pm
Responding to Kips post

I only agreed with the Kraven one lol.

If we do a prequel. Make it Tchalla. He was BP for ten years before the movie. Might as well take advantage and do straight action adventure. That way it can come out faster without having to wait for Infinity War sequel.

Yeah, Kraven I like. 

I also can't say giving Shuri a girl-focus animated series like DC's Super Hero Girls series is a bad idea.  Not for me, but it could be a good thing.

The only prequel I want to see is T'Chaka as Black Panther in the 90s.   Maybe their grandfather in WW2.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on February 22, 2018, 04:00:08 pm

My only issue with cloaking is that it takes away form him already being super stealthy as it is. As for the daggers? Beware... Come on, Disney owns starwars and Marvel, and the Force push is already used in bp..... modern day Jedi Master Tchalla here  8)

Mephisto could be a demon, like MoS said it's T'chadwicks favorite story, it's gotta shown up in some form


I was thinking something less about stealth, more about tactics, like the cloak used by Rukh in the most recent episode of STAR WARS REBELS.

And I'm not saying we can't use Mephisto (or some African equivalent) at all.  Just not in the second movie.  BP3, maybe.

Actually that works... first movie, protect Wakanda from a basically internal threat.
Second movie,  protect Wakanda from an external foreign threat... say Achebe and the Desturi.
Third movie, protect Wakanda from an extradimensional threat. 

That gives you a nice ramping up of threat level (and an excuse for that thrice-blessed armor, although I'd be happier if it was redesigned to look less like 16th-century German Maximilian armor)

I hear ya. Strum und Drang/world tour Story it is.

But one thing I would like for sure is for either T'Challa to add the Daggers and have Shuri ask when did he have time to make that upgrade, or atleast have him come to her with his detailed designs and say something along the lines of " I trust you can have this done by tomorrow morning or something" but I want more then just a "Your suit Is outdated" to showcase his genius
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: APEXABYSS on February 22, 2018, 04:06:59 pm
Every year a ritual combat ceremony is performed and any Wakandan who is of royal blood (which is kind of everyone, since theyíre an isolated country) is allowed to fight for the throne.--Ture

What if this happened in real life? Could you handle it? Could you handle someone challenging BP for the throne to become the new BP & ruler of Wakanda?

Itís not a what if! Itís happening now. No BP creator has done what WWO has done for BP. None.
Where does vibranium come from? WWO answers that question. From outer-space. Wu-Kandan World Order- not talking about planet earth. Coates needs a late-pass!
 
BP vs. BP=WWO. Strong female dora-general=WWO. Strong female cast=WWO. Complicated relationship with an ex=WWO. Wakandan tech & fashion design=WWO. Malcolm X & MLK dynamic ( General sehkmet+Tchallah= killmonger & bp)=WWO. 

No one BP story comes close to the movie except for WWO. Breaking box-office records! Iím not on no Sophia Stewart BS. Itís all a give-a-way. Iíve kept the good stuff for later use. Some may try to undermine my writing skills, which is why I chose not to express, until the time is appropriate. WWO is a written saga. I'm not asking is it okay if I write a BP story. I took the story & made it better, without permission. the take-over is real! deal with it!

the only thing I've ever asked for was inclusion. especially for those here at the HEF. Hhmmmm!
 
Bottomline. ďMY BP CAN KICK YOUR BPíS A$$Ē!

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The future will be filled with worthy challengers trying to defeat the current Pharoah King = Ape X Abyss!
 
so wide you canít get around it. So low you canít get under it. So high you canít get over it. 
Can you accept the reality
 
ďDo not confuse the methods with the objectives.ĒóMalcolm X


Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Rise Above on February 23, 2018, 08:10:18 pm
Reminds me of Spaceketeers.

(And I'll be stunned if any of you know what that is without looking it up. :) )
My man, I havenít thought about Spaceketeers in about 35 years. Jesse Dart was my dude
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ture on February 23, 2018, 09:40:20 pm
Great idea for thread Mind of Shadow. I've been thinking about the sequel and I know I would like to see Zuri interact with T'Challa from the ancestral realm. I would do the resurrection of Killmonger by a small group of Wakandan sympathizers; have Killmonger and his followers get some territory to call their own and work their way into the affairs of the world. I would do a scene where Shuri and Stark are debating the theoretical functions of a piece of tech and T'Challa casually corrects an error they both overlooked.

If Infinity Wars and its follow up neglect to demonstrate Wakanda's space technology I would do a story about some remnants of Thanos' army attempting to infiltrate Wakanda and instigate a war between Wakanda and Atlantis. Introduce Namor, some cool Wakandan aquatic tech and reveal the remnants of Thanos' army to be Skrulls. The trilogy concludes Secret Invasion style sans Storm as that role goes to Nakia.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on February 24, 2018, 01:22:05 am
Reminds me of Spaceketeers.

(And I'll be stunned if any of you know what that is without looking it up. :) )
My man, I havenít thought about Spaceketeers in about 35 years. Jesse Dart was my dude


Force Five, represent! :D
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on February 24, 2018, 04:22:04 am
Ill be curious if the HSH grows back or not. I mean burning plants is a giod way to get future plants to grow lol

Or if Bast becomes much more explicit in future films. And tge gorilla god
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: BlindWedjat on February 24, 2018, 04:30:18 am
Ill be curious if the HSH grows back or not. I mean burning plants is a giod way to get future plants to grow lol

Or if Bast becomes much more explicit in future films. And tge gorilla god

I think M'Baku namedropped the gorrila god once, but I can't remember when
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on February 24, 2018, 04:47:28 am
Yes, at one point M'Baku said "All Glory to Hanuman" who isn't exactly a gorilla god (He's a Vedic monkey god) but hey, close enough. :)

As for the HSH, I can think of several easy handwaves without breaking a sweat.

For example:

1. The herb still grows in the wild, but is cultivated there for ease of access.
2. There were still ungerminated seeds under the soil that were unaffected by the flames.
3. Ramonda/Shuri saved the seeds off before preparing the elixir for T'Challa.
4. Shuri has some cuttings in her lab, for botanical research.
5. The gardeners defied Killmonger and hid away some cuttings/seeds before burning the garden.
6. There was a corner of the cave sheltered from view where a few blooms survived.

Pick one. ;)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on February 24, 2018, 04:58:48 am
And if I wanted to be poeticÖ

7. T'Challa finds a single blossom of the HSH on Zuri's grave.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 24, 2018, 06:55:31 am
And if I wanted to be poeticÖ

7. T'Challa finds a single blossom of the HSH on Zuri's grave.

HSH is probably the Soul "Stone"!
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on February 24, 2018, 08:48:06 am
I actually want to see "Predator" Black Panther, which feels like what their moving towards to with the James Bond aspect of the film. You know Shuri is gonna invent even more stuff for him in suit, to oooh and aaaaah audiences like the panther roar suit did.

I also think the whole "natural" stealth thing is overstated and kinda overrated.  He has sound proof vibranium boots, so he's already cheating :P

So I don't think cloaking downplays anything that isn't already downplayed by the principle of him being a super powered human in a tech suit.  He sneaks up on MCU Tony Stark not bc he's 'naturally' sneaky (that wouldn't be enough) but b/c he designed his suit with tech that prevents body heat senors from picking him up. 

Ultimately, if you want to show that BP is impressive without the suit then yea, you simply show him doing stealthy stuff outside of the suit, same with his hand2hand and how they made a point in BP1 to show he was formidable even when depowered.  With that said, they're not gonna job Thanos out by having T'Challa sneak up on him with opened toed sandals and a bottle of windex
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on February 24, 2018, 08:54:46 am
Stealth is something comics can portray better than a movie.

Hell, the first fight with the sex traffikers int he dark was "stealthy." He bounced all over the place silently. Wasn't that impressive lol.

Unless you are going to go the Ninja Assassin "shadow teleporting" stuff...

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU5k5eKxgK8#)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU5k5eKxgK8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU5k5eKxgK8)


which would be cool lol

(ninjas assassin is my guilty pleasure)

(I just realized enhanced sense werent in the movie)

(those ninjas had enhanced senses too)

(i like to watch this movie drunk lol)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 24, 2018, 09:02:31 am
I've been hoping they cast him for a Cowboy Bebop live action.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on February 24, 2018, 09:26:14 am
Stealth is something comics can portray better than a movie.

Hell, the first fight with the sex traffikers int he dark was "stealthy." He bounced all over the place silently. Wasn't that impressive lol.

Unless you are going to go the Ninja Assassin "shadow teleporting" stuff...

! No longer available ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU5k5eKxgK8#[/url])

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU5k5eKxgK8[/url] ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU5k5eKxgK8[/url])


which would be cool lol

(ninjas assassin is my guilty pleasure)

(I just realized enhanced sense werent in the movie)

(those ninjas had enhanced senses too)

(i like to watch this movie drunk lol)


Shadow teleporting is the way to go for the movies if there is teleportation (which of course i'm for).  That just looks cool as hell, esp with the ninja'ish vibe to it. 

As an aide, that comic scene where Reed is talking to Black Swan and he then nods seemingly to no one, only for BP to then manifest behind Black Swan, having been their the whole time.  That's the type of movie moments, specifically designed for cloaking tech.

I think similar to the first movie, you have T'Challa do certain things outside of the suit that shows his capabilities.  But you keep on pushing the bar with the suit and James Bond tech.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on February 24, 2018, 09:42:30 am
That scene with the traffickers at the beginning of the movie... i was thinking less "man that stealthy stuff is so cool!" and more "maaan they need some better lighting in this b****!"

Part of the reason is that you knew they were all getting bodied regardless of whether BP used any type of stealth, or if he just walked up in plane sight and started doing this

(http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/lebron-james-dancing-o.gif)

It was all going to end the same way.

Even with the captured women in the back, they didn't make the connection that he cared until he started talking to Nakia.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on February 24, 2018, 09:48:21 am
that scene got better the more I watched it

simply bc I knew where to look lol.

First time I watched it, I felt like the traffikers lol. "Where the hell is BP... OH sh*t THERE HE IS f*ck I CANT SEE sh*t!"
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: 4sake on February 24, 2018, 09:51:49 am
Stealth is something comics can portray better than a movie.

Hell, the first fight with the sex traffikers int he dark was "stealthy." He bounced all over the place silently. Wasn't that impressive lol.

Unless you are going to go the Ninja Assassin "shadow teleporting" stuff...

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which would be cool lol

(ninjas assassin is my guilty pleasure)

(I just realized enhanced sense werent in the movie)

(those ninjas had enhanced senses too)

(i like to watch this movie drunk lol)


Shadow teleporting is the way to go for the movies if there is teleportation (which of course i'm for).  That just looks cool as hell, esp with the ninja'ish vibe to it. 

As an aide, that comic scene where Reed is talking to Black Swan and he then nods seemingly to no one, only for BP to then manifest behind Black Swan, having been their the whole time.  That's the type of movie moments, specifically designed for cloaking tech.

I think similar to the first movie, you have T'Challa do certain things outside of the suit that shows his capabilities.  But you keep on pushing the bar with the suit and James Bond tech.


To cool an excellent idea..
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: 4sake on February 24, 2018, 09:53:06 am
Mephisto could be more of a spirit (african lore of sorts??) than the true devil.



Energy daggers... you all know what I want!

(https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111127507/6283108-9949227565-52465.gif)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e0/81/db/e081db7a0d44a104e26430569df3b545.gif)

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Would love to see something similar to this...
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on February 24, 2018, 09:58:11 am
I gues that is the other question...

What is the next BP suit gonna be?

already used Priest's gold one for T'chaka


Gotta sell toys which means changing the habit a bit.

Rocafort head piece next? Cape?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on February 24, 2018, 10:09:09 am
They'll likely go with Stelfreeze sleek design
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on February 24, 2018, 10:50:43 am
Well, we went from suit to necklace.  The logical approach would be to miniaturize it further, but I'd like to see something along the lines of Priest's morphing habit, so that he doesn't destroy his clothes every time he changes into it:

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/bd/69/de/bd69de9a4bcc3ab226930a7e558cb5b8.jpg)

In terms of design, I suspect it will be cosmetically quite similar, but I wouldn't mind seeing them add a touch of gold, or at least dark bronze, to the mix to make it look fresh.  Something like this custom, perhaps:

(https://images.bigcartel.com/product_images/207959917/TC3.png)

Maybe he does it to remind himself of what happened with Killmonger?  After all, he WAS family.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on February 24, 2018, 11:10:20 am
that scene got better the more I watched it

simply bc I knew where to look lol.

First time I watched it, I felt like the traffikers lol. "Where the hell is BP... OH sh*t THERE HE IS f*ck I CANT SEE sh*t!"

If possible, I'd prefer they do it without risking photosensitive epilepsy next time
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on February 24, 2018, 11:43:06 am
Stealth is something comics can portray better than a movie.

Hell, the first fight with the sex traffikers int he dark was "stealthy." He bounced all over the place silently. Wasn't that impressive lol.

Unless you are going to go the Ninja Assassin "shadow teleporting" stuff...

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which would be cool lol

(ninjas assassin is my guilty pleasure)

(I just realized enhanced sense werent in the movie)

(those ninjas had enhanced senses too)

(i like to watch this movie drunk lol)


Shadow teleporting is the way to go for the movies if there is teleportation (which of course i'm for).  That just looks cool as hell, esp with the ninja'ish vibe to it. 

As an aide, that comic scene where Reed is talking to Black Swan and he then nods seemingly to no one, only for BP to then manifest behind Black Swan, having been their the whole time.  That's the type of movie moments, specifically designed for cloaking tech.

I think similar to the first movie, you have T'Challa do certain things outside of the suit that shows his capabilities.  But you keep on pushing the bar with the suit and James Bond tech.


To cool an excellent idea..


Thanks and tbh, it's not like T'Challa will turn into Nightcrawler or Sue Richards with these upgrades, if that's the concern.  Just like he wouldn't be a Gambit clone with the inevitable energy daggers.

Those are strictly for cool crowd moments and the extra 30 million YouTube views when the official trailer teases the upgrades.  He'll still be kicking and clawing things when it comes to it
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Hypestyle on February 24, 2018, 01:26:59 pm
So who could play Senator Rakim?  Killmonger basically gave voice to his sentiments from the comics--

Is Nick Fury going to have a conversation with T'Challa in the future?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on February 24, 2018, 01:42:38 pm
The suit absorbing energy and creating daggers is gonna happen

"Shuri, i need more control over the energy dispersion"


Boom, daggers and dboi gauntlets
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on February 24, 2018, 02:09:06 pm
So who could play Senator Rakim?  Killmonger basically gave voice to his sentiments from the comics--

Is Nick Fury going to have a conversation with T'Challa in the future?

I always thought Rakim (adult version) looked a bit like Spike Lee.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on February 24, 2018, 02:21:42 pm
The suit absorbing energy and creating daggers is gonna happen

"Shuri, i need more control over the energy dispersion"


Boom, daggers and dboi gauntlets

N
Well T'Challa nade the joke to Shuri about how she wanted to improve the EMP beads, this time he should be the one to make the improvements, or atleast give her the design.. I really want to see a running joke of then trying to out do each other. Or he just adds the improvement without her knowing. I need tech feats Dammit
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on February 27, 2018, 08:41:40 am
hmmm

you could do a really really really cool TV show about a Wakandan war dog

You wouldn't need any of the special effects needed in Black Panther because you wouldn't need to be in Wakanda.

Wouldn't even need to connect to the main cast so it wouldn't cost a ton.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CvilleWakandan on February 27, 2018, 08:44:20 am
hmmm

you could do a really really really cool TV show about a Wakandan war dog

You wouldn't need any of the special effects needed in Black Panther because you wouldn't need to be in Wakanda.

Wouldn't even need to connect to the main cast so it wouldn't cost a ton.

Could work like Alias
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on February 27, 2018, 09:05:47 am
Ironically, people are petitioning for a World of Wakanda origin for Netflix.  No, not Roxanne Gay inspired.  More like "Gotham" i guess (a show i've never watched but am assuming).

Would be interesting.  Game of thrones with the 5 tribes beefing
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on February 27, 2018, 09:31:33 am
Ironically, people are petitioning for a World of Wakanda origin for Netflix.  No, not Roxanne Gay inspired.  More like "Gotham" i guess (a show i've never watched but am assuming).

Would be interesting.  Game of thrones with the 5 tribes beefing

Petitioning the wrong people then.

Disney is done with Netflix.

Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on February 27, 2018, 10:09:16 am
Ironically, people are petitioning for a World of Wakanda origin for Netflix.  No, not Roxanne Gay inspired.  More like "Gotham" i guess (a show i've never watched but am assuming).

Would be interesting.  Game of thrones with the 5 tribes beefing

Petitioning the wrong people then.

Disney is done with Netflix.



https://screenrant.com/black-panther-movie-wakanda-tv-show/

Quote
Eric Hamilton created a Change.org petition seeking a Wakanda-based spinoff TV series. Hamilton wants to see Marvel channel their assets into exploring the origin of the technologically advanced nation, and wants Netflix to continue working their magic with the comic company. So far, the petition has 4,000 signatures, showing just how much people love all things Black Panther.

Though the idea is a fun one and fans are clearly interested, Netflix certainly wonít be making the series. Future Marvel shows will go to Disneyís streaming service, which is set to debut in the fall of next year. The existing Defenders-based shows will remain on Netflix, but any new projects will come strictly from Disney-owned platforms. That said, those resources seem like more than enough to realize a Wakanda TV show, and itís likely Marvel are more than happy to explore more Black Panther media.

Black Panther has a massive toy line coming, topping all other non-sequel in the MCU. And on top of leading the current season of Avengers Assemble, TíChalla has multiple comic books exploring his life right. Black Panther 2 is obviously coming, but itís hard to imagine Marvel not continuing to capitalize on the filmís success in other ways. With the movie headed towards $1 billion at the box office, expect the near future to see some exciting new Black Panther projects emerge.

Stop trying to stifle Eric Hamilton's dreams  :(
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: BlackClaw on March 02, 2018, 12:13:06 pm
All I want is for Nakia to be endgame for T'cholla at the end of the trilogy. And they better have a lit wedding as well.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 02, 2018, 01:31:25 pm
I think they will go that route, they already said she isn't going to Comic Version so no need to ruin it
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: BlackClaw on March 02, 2018, 02:09:01 pm
I think they will go that route, they already said she isn't going to Comic Version so no need to ruin it

Indeed. It really says something when the most adamant Storm kids back at CBR are now saying they have no problem with Nakia being BPís main love interest for the MCU after seeing the movie.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: JRCarter on March 02, 2018, 02:10:54 pm
Maybe Uncle S'yan...played by Wesley Snipes.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: BlindWedjat on March 02, 2018, 02:32:29 pm
The Wakandan International Outreach Program is a very, very good way of doing 'The Client' storyline, isn't it...?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 02, 2018, 02:57:47 pm
The Wakandan International Outreach Program is a very, very good way of doing 'The Client' storyline, isn't it...?


Oooohhh snaaaaps
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CvilleWakandan on March 02, 2018, 02:58:16 pm
The Wakandan International Outreach Program is a very, very good way of doing 'The Client' storyline, isn't it...?

That is a good observation.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 02, 2018, 03:27:48 pm
The Wakandan International Outreach Program is a very, very good way of doing 'The Client' storyline, isn't it...?

Holy crap your right, WOW
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Salustrade on March 02, 2018, 04:14:24 pm
I think they will go that route, they already said she isn't going to Comic Version so no need to ruin it

Indeed. It really says something when the most adamant Storm kids back at CBR are now saying they have no problem with Nakia being BPís main love interest for the MCU after seeing the movie.

Who gives a crap about what they think?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: APEXABYSS on March 02, 2018, 05:17:13 pm
We are gonna have to move into the realm of magic. The movie depicted  voo-dun &  mystic agriculture. The ancestors were once known as witch DOCTORS, shaman, root Doctors, etc. shamanism is the origin of medicine & mysticism. Thatís why  DR. Voo-Doo & DR. Strange are physicians. One of the most intelligent strategists should be a master magician in the mcu. All things considered.
 
Also, good look on the Egyptian ARMS CROSSED (thatís Osiris). Who noticed Killmonger died @ SUN-SET? Heru (hero) defeats Set. More Egyptian folk-lore.

WWO put the best of many creator/concepts into one story. Thatís the point. The BP avalanche still approaches. Itís a tribute to the architects & the new builders.

 I GO HARD. I hope you will too.

Ongoing campaign... The whole world is on the BP HEF thread. Wu-kanda 
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: BlindWedjat on March 03, 2018, 05:06:06 am
The Wakandan International Outreach Program is a very, very good way of doing 'The Client' storyline, isn't it...?

That is a good observation.
The Wakandan International Outreach Program is a very, very good way of doing 'The Client' storyline, isn't it...?

Holy crap your right, WOW
The Wakandan International Outreach Program is a very, very good way of doing 'The Client' storyline, isn't it...?


Oooohhh snaaaaps

I thought it was a nod to The Tomorrow Fund after I saw it the second time.  Just substitute TWOP with TTF. You can bring back Ross too (but not Nikki). You have Okoye and Nakia too since Nakia is involved with the program too. Introduce Achebe, and I remember that Wakanda was having issues with refugees as well. That might be tricky to tackle today though. Add Shuri to the mix too and you have Ramonda as well. It's quite perfect.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 03, 2018, 06:47:36 am
GIVE ME MY MEPHISTO MOMENT!!!
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: BlindWedjat on March 03, 2018, 07:08:18 am
GIVE ME MY MEPHISTO MOMENT!!!

I really wonder how they might do that. Ryan I think said they wanted to focus more on spirituality than mysticism with the movie, and the MCU hasn't fully embraced the mystical in the classical sense. I liked that angle to be honest. I'd love to see T'Challa communicating with past BPs on his own but I also like that it takes a ritual to do that, and it might not even be real.

Achebe sold his soul to Mephisto didn't he? You can have that be like a ritual that enhanced his mind while also driving him mad. I don't know how they'll make Mephisto real though.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: KIP LEWIS on March 03, 2018, 07:37:34 am
GIVE ME MY MEPHISTO MOMENT!!!

I HATE Mephisto; I personally NEVER want to see him again.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 03, 2018, 07:46:08 am
If they can make doramammu real, they can do mephisto

Say hes a demon, not the actual devil.

You can mix aspects of mephisto and morlun
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: BlackClaw on March 03, 2018, 07:50:29 am
You know how Captain Marvel is gonna be our introduction to the Skrulls? Maybe that will be a way to have Malice in the mcu without having Nakia turn evil. Maybe TíChalla is fighting against what we think is Malice only for the real Nakia to come in the nick of time and reveal that Malice was actually a Skrulls that kidnapped her and took her form to try and break TíChalla emotionally while also trying to bring down Wakanda from the inside. And the two proceed to open a can of whoop ass on said Skrulls.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 03, 2018, 11:50:10 am
Mephisto being. Demon work's, but then the question is,
where do you got from there with the third movie? Because you gotta top each one
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CvilleWakandan on March 03, 2018, 12:28:55 pm
Mephisto being. Demon work's, but then the question is,
where do you got from there with the third movie? Because you gotta top each one


Hopefully by the third movie, they'll be working on Secret Invasion
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 03, 2018, 01:34:01 pm
Mephisto being. Demon work's, but then the question is,
where do you got from there with the third movie? Because you gotta top each one


Wakanda vs atlantis.

It woukd be redundant tobshow a military battle after IW

But 6 years later, easy

It doesnt necessary have to be bigger, just different.


Other idea for bp 2...


Azania and the supremacist story ala Gillis. They are oppressed and sfter tchallas speech it works


But... gillis is blackballed so lol
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 03, 2018, 02:53:26 pm
Yeah Gillis story would be great, especially after IW and Wakanda dealing with Thanos and T'Challa losing his connection. I would love to see Tchalla vs tpg on the big screen
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 03, 2018, 10:40:57 pm
It's hard to predict the big bad.  The movie ended with all 5 tribes and the Doras loyal to T'Challa's rule, so having a retread of "disgraced outsider wants to take over throne and change Wakanda for his own vendetta" again would just be lazy writing. Looking at you Achebe and Tetu.  If they aren't repurposed, then they'd simply work better as secondary villains.  Like what Achebe would be to Mephisto.

Of course, T'Challa also needs something he can punch.  And Achebe is too weak, so they'd have to zone in on Mephisto's physical body and have BP essentially throw bows for an extended period with a demon before the ancestral planes stuff sets in.  And that then goes into the whole overly cgi villain thing that plagued justice league and wonder woman (or so i've heard, ain't watching them sh*ts).

The issue with Namor is if they do use him, they'll likely cast him as asian, which means he'll be their biggest link to the chinese market, which means Marvel may limit how much he can be vilified, if at all.  Hell they'd probably want a 2nd villain to be the "actual villain" once BP and Namor are done Batman vs Superman'ing it up. And i don't really want that sh*t where we're using our black excellence time to advertise a Namor movie.

If he's the main villain, then he gotta own that sh*t with a vibranium boot broke into his ass.  But i don't see them doing that.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 04, 2018, 04:51:54 am
Yeah.. what i dont want is another wakanda civil war situation.

Time for tchalla to beat up non wakandans

I still think mephisto works best. Prirst already story boarded the ending. 3rd act cgi fests are just part of the genre lol
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 04, 2018, 08:21:11 am
Yeah.. what i dont want is another wakanda civil war situation.

Time for tchalla to beat up non wakandans

I still think mephisto works best. Prirst already story boarded the ending. 3rd act cgi fests are just part of the genre lol

Looks like the client could be the easiest set up,  they could easily set that into the refugees coming into However,
they could go World tour route and have Nakia and T'Challa get married and go on some adventures (less likely) but I would like EotS 1/2 strum, or 4 the hard way could work depending
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: KIP LEWIS on March 04, 2018, 08:29:35 am
You know...Black Panther 2 could be the wedding of T'Challa and Nakia.

And Storm could be watching the wedding on TV, crying....
😂

Ok maybe that's not the best use of BP2.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 04, 2018, 08:30:44 am
Other option is a Who is the Blacj Panther approach

Group of villains trying to steal vibranium.

Next logical thing is simply showing the bad side of coming out of isolation.

People trying to steal ur sh*t, refugees bringing their issues, and the like. But thats hard to make a comic story out of
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 04, 2018, 08:46:42 am
WiTBP would be a really good sequel too on top of a mix of the client
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: BlackClaw on March 04, 2018, 10:33:41 am
You know...Black Panther 2 could be the wedding of T'Challa and Nakia.

And Storm could be watching the wedding on TV, crying....
😂

Ok maybe that's not the best use of BP2.

I think it would, just so I can rub it in the faces of storm kids everywhere. Mwahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 04, 2018, 10:50:27 am
You know...Black Panther 2 could be the wedding of T'Challa and Nakia.

And Storm could be watching the wedding on TV, crying....
😂

Ok maybe that's not the best use of BP2.

I think it would, just so I can rub it in the faces of storm kids everywhere. Mwahahahahahaha

Realistically, marriage is the route they are going with T'Challa and Nakia.  The Barry & Michelle Obama of Wakanda thing. 

Honestly, Coogler and J.Cole have to be the ones who come back to finish the entire trilogy.  Those two are the only two I trust, and empowered once again by Nate Moore.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 04, 2018, 10:52:31 am
I think for the sequel Coogler is guaranteed to come back.
He has to. Hos movie is going to it 1 Billy next week
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 04, 2018, 01:02:29 pm
You know...Black Panther 2 could be the wedding of T'Challa and Nakia.

And Storm could be watching the wedding on TV, crying....
😂

Ok maybe that's not the best use of BP2.

I think it would, just so I can rub it in the faces of storm kids everywhere. Mwahahahahahaha

Realistically, marriage is the route they are going with T'Challa and Nakia.  The Barry & Michelle Obama of Wakanda thing. 

Honestly, Coogler and J.Cole have to be the ones who come back to finish the entire trilogy.  Those two are the only two I trust, and empowered once again by Nate Moore.

I said if before

The wedding should start the sequel.

Show us an African inspired tribal wedding.

And then bring in the panther god in all her glory.

You can have nakia presented to Bast ala hudlin but add in all the spirits of the past kings and queens there to pass judgement.

Perfectly sets up that priest mephisto ending :P
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 04, 2018, 01:30:33 pm
Marriage of the century.. I like it alot. A spiritual theme, plus no marvel movie has done a marriage that would look this great while tying into the story to add Mephisto in
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: BlackClaw on March 04, 2018, 02:45:16 pm
Marriage of the century.. I like it alot. A spiritual theme, plus no marvel movie has done a marriage that would look this great while tying into the story to add Mephisto in

And the trilogy would end with Nakia announcing sheís carrying a future heir to the throne!
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: KIP LEWIS on March 04, 2018, 03:16:01 pm
So I wonder how many people are going to try and get a spot in BP 2, even if it's just a face in the crowd shot.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 04, 2018, 06:56:14 pm
Dude I would be fodder number 10 of it meant getting on. BP. Even better if I got kicked by the king Lol
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 04, 2018, 09:15:51 pm
I could see BP 2 introducing Niganda with M'Butu [as the Kim Jon-il dictator], plus Achebe, Tetu, and Zenzi. 

Zenzi could have her beef be with M'Butu experimenting on her and other Nigandans in his attempts to form a superhuman army [as opposed to it having been Erik]. 

Tetu can have whatever beef he needs to have with Wakanda.

Achebe can be the master manipulator who brings the two together with goals of overthrowing M'Butu and then using Niganda's army to rage war with Wakanda. 

Maybe even showing hints and signs of Mephisto being present in Achebe.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 04, 2018, 09:17:42 pm
And Kraven is cool, but since he's spider-man... i'd rather claim a free agent like Task Master.  He'd make a great foil, like an appetizer before it's time to get to the main course.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 05, 2018, 04:50:41 am
O need a little less black on black fighting,  break away from the whole black people always fighting each other.nm the supremacists group could be the super Villain group they could use. If they make up with Gilis. But there are still a good amount of under used villains the Baron macabre, King cadaver, Solomon prey, mbutu could work too,  o would even say white wolf could be s good Villain
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 05, 2018, 05:24:23 am
I think the biggest issue with BP2 is finding a "social" angle to use

BP one had a very large "social angle" throughout the whole thing... what does a super advanced uber nation owe to the rest of the world mixed in with Killmonger's warped idea of how to help people.

People will expect something similar in BP2. If you just go in guns blazing comic book stuff, I wonder if fans will be pissed a bit?

I wouldn't be... that is what I am there for lol.

the most obvious social angle is "this is all the bad sh*t that can happen to your country if you do open up... but here is all the good sh*t too" which is had to portray I think on screen.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: KIP LEWIS on March 05, 2018, 06:24:34 am
I think the biggest issue with BP2 is finding a "social" angle to use

BP one had a very large "social angle" throughout the whole thing... what does a super advanced uber nation owe to the rest of the world mixed in with Killmonger's warped idea of how to help people.

People will expect something similar in BP2. If you just go in guns blazing comic book stuff, I wonder if fans will be pissed a bit?

I wouldn't be... that is what I am there for lol.

the most obvious social angle is "this is all the bad sh*t that can happen to your country if you do open up... but here is all the good sh*t too" which is had to portray I think on screen.

Until we see where IW (both parts) leaves the MCU, it's hard to guess.  Will BP require rebuilding Wakanda after IW?  Or the world?

Does BP2 happen before or after part 2 of IW?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 05, 2018, 06:25:47 am
I think the biggest issue with BP2 is finding a "social" angle to use

BP one had a very large "social angle" throughout the whole thing... what does a super advanced uber nation owe to the rest of the world mixed in with Killmonger's warped idea of how to help people.

People will expect something similar in BP2. If you just go in guns blazing comic book stuff, I wonder if fans will be pissed a bit?

I wouldn't be... that is what I am there for lol.

the most obvious social angle is "this is all the bad sh*t that can happen to your country if you do open up... but here is all the good sh*t too" which is had to portray I think on screen.

Until we see where IW (both parts) leaves the MCU, it's hard to guess.  Will BP require rebuilding Wakanda after IW?  Or the world?

Does BP2 happen before or after part 2 of IW?

After Avenger's 4. Avengers 4 is already done filming


But yeah, if Thanos rips a whole through Wakanda... wakanda people may get pissed.

But then you are back to ANOTHER wakandan civil war situation. Another questioning the king situation.

I think you need to see Wakanda fully mobilized and unified against another threat before you go back to a "civil unrest" situation.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Hypestyle on March 05, 2018, 06:36:43 am
No Wakandan slavery, no prostitution/kidnapping women-- no drug trade-- no internal unrest/rebellion leading to "western" democracy.

villains- Mephisto, Achebe.

I'm not hung up on White Wolf-- and I have no idea who would be a good pick if they went there.

I'd like to see senator Rakim.  Maybe David Oyelowo... or he could play a Wakandan official.  Something interesting, and non-cameo.

Bring back Okoye and Nakia, and of course Shuri.

I'm not hung up on seeing more of Ross.  His role in part 1 was fine.  I'm not interested in seeing him armored up as a sidekick or whatever.

Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 05, 2018, 07:12:46 am
Unless you have them fighting blue alien people, it's always going to be a delicate situation when it comes down to ____ on ____ violence. 

i.e. Can't have Captain America beating up nothing but black and brown people, because that's racist.  But nobody really cares if it's white on white tho.  Except if it's women, because #metoo

BP killed a buncha white ppl in South Korea, lowkey.  But kill nothing but white ppl and then BP is a black extremist.  Kill too many black ppl and he a coon.  Kill too many black women [like Erik apparently did] and he hates black women.

Killing redshirts never used to be this complicated  :-\
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 05, 2018, 07:16:09 am
Unless you have them fighting blue alien people, it's always going to be a delicate situation when it comes down to ____ on ____ violence. 

i.e. Can't have Captain America beating up nothing but black and brown people, because that's racist.  But nobody really cares if it's white on white tho.  Except if it's women, because #metoo

BP killed a buncha white ppl in South Korea, lowkey.  But kill nothing but white ppl and then BP is a black extremist.  Kill too many black ppl and he a coon.  Kill too many black women [like Erik apparently did] and he hates black women.

Killing redshirts never used to be this complicated  :-\

i think, with BP, next time they just have to be non-wakandan.

I think

maybe

you're right though, you never know lol
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 05, 2018, 07:20:51 am
I think the biggest issue with BP2 is finding a "social" angle to use

BP one had a very large "social angle" throughout the whole thing... what does a super advanced uber nation owe to the rest of the world mixed in with Killmonger's warped idea of how to help people.

People will expect something similar in BP2. If you just go in guns blazing comic book stuff, I wonder if fans will be pissed a bit?

I wouldn't be... that is what I am there for lol.

the most obvious social angle is "this is all the bad sh*t that can happen to your country if you do open up... but here is all the good sh*t too" which is had to portray I think on screen.

M'Butu and Niganda feels like a no-brainer.

Dictator of an oppressed country. The Niganda ppl want Wakanda's help, international politics say Wakanda can't just go barreling in and running sh*t, even tho War Dogs have already infiltrated and discovered secret project to create superhumans [like Zenzi].

Basically should Wakanda be the super-police of the world, and how far do they extend when the world wants more than just advanced flue shots and fancy STEM 101 university presentations.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 05, 2018, 07:23:46 am
Have him kill people of all races equally lol. Better yet just cover them head to toe in body armor so you don't know what race they are
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 05, 2018, 07:24:49 am
I think the biggest issue with BP2 is finding a "social" angle to use

BP one had a very large "social angle" throughout the whole thing... what does a super advanced uber nation owe to the rest of the world mixed in with Killmonger's warped idea of how to help people.

People will expect something similar in BP2. If you just go in guns blazing comic book stuff, I wonder if fans will be pissed a bit?

I wouldn't be... that is what I am there for lol.

the most obvious social angle is "this is all the bad sh*t that can happen to your country if you do open up... but here is all the good sh*t too" which is had to portray I think on screen.

M'Butu and Niganda feels like a no-brainer.

Dictator of an oppressed country. The Niganda ppl want Wakanda's help, international politics say Wakanda can't just go barreling in and running sh*t, even tho War Dogs have already infiltrated and discovered secret project to create superhumans [like Zenzi].

Basically should Wakanda be the super-police of the world, and how far do they extend when the world wants more than just advanced flue shots and fancy STEM 101 university presentations.

With T'challa stuck in the middle trying to appease the UN while at the same time, fighting every urge from him to go in there himself and personally clean house

With various wakandans not being happy about using Wakandan lives for another country

hmmm
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 05, 2018, 07:25:31 am
Unless you have them fighting blue alien people, it's always going to be a delicate situation when it comes down to ____ on ____ violence. 

i.e. Can't have Captain America beating up nothing but black and brown people, because that's racist.  But nobody really cares if it's white on white tho.  Except if it's women, because #metoo

BP killed a buncha white ppl in South Korea, lowkey.  But kill nothing but white ppl and then BP is a black extremist.  Kill too many black ppl and he a coon.  Kill too many black women [like Erik apparently did] and he hates black women.

Killing redshirts never used to be this complicated  :-\

i think, with BP, next time they just have to be non-wakandan.

I think

maybe

you're right though, you never know lol

I also think we should move past the Wakandan dysfunction.  But with that said, black on black crime is still black on black crime.  BP should just kill everybody in equal doses, that way everybody is (not) happy! 
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 05, 2018, 07:27:28 am
I think the biggest issue with BP2 is finding a "social" angle to use

BP one had a very large "social angle" throughout the whole thing... what does a super advanced uber nation owe to the rest of the world mixed in with Killmonger's warped idea of how to help people.

People will expect something similar in BP2. If you just go in guns blazing comic book stuff, I wonder if fans will be pissed a bit?

I wouldn't be... that is what I am there for lol.

the most obvious social angle is "this is all the bad sh*t that can happen to your country if you do open up... but here is all the good sh*t too" which is had to portray I think on screen.

M'Butu and Niganda feels like a no-brainer.

Dictator of an oppressed country. The Niganda ppl want Wakanda's help, international politics say Wakanda can't just go barreling in and running sh*t, even tho War Dogs have already infiltrated and discovered secret project to create superhumans [like Zenzi].

Basically should Wakanda be the super-police of the world, and how far do they extend when the world wants more than just advanced flue shots and fancy STEM 101 university presentations.

With T'challa stuck in the middle trying to appease the UN while at the same time, fighting every urge from him to go in there himself and personally clean house

With various wakandans not being happy about using Wakandan lives for another country

hmmm

"Wakandan lives matter" type approach.. that could work ,
though it makes it difficult because you don't want to drive to another internal strife. Unless they go the angle of trying to establish a council to reign T'Challa in and showing the good and bad of that?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 05, 2018, 07:30:07 am
I think the biggest issue with BP2 is finding a "social" angle to use

BP one had a very large "social angle" throughout the whole thing... what does a super advanced uber nation owe to the rest of the world mixed in with Killmonger's warped idea of how to help people.

People will expect something similar in BP2. If you just go in guns blazing comic book stuff, I wonder if fans will be pissed a bit?

I wouldn't be... that is what I am there for lol.

the most obvious social angle is "this is all the bad sh*t that can happen to your country if you do open up... but here is all the good sh*t too" which is had to portray I think on screen.

M'Butu and Niganda feels like a no-brainer.

Dictator of an oppressed country. The Niganda ppl want Wakanda's help, international politics say Wakanda can't just go barreling in and running sh*t, even tho War Dogs have already infiltrated and discovered secret project to create superhumans [like Zenzi].

Basically should Wakanda be the super-police of the world, and how far do they extend when the world wants more than just advanced flue shots and fancy STEM 101 university presentations.

With T'challa stuck in the middle trying to appease the UN while at the same time, fighting every urge from him to go in there himself and personally clean house

With various wakandans not being happy about using Wakandan lives for another country

hmmm

"Wakandan lives matter" type approach.. that could work ,
though it makes it difficult because you don't want to drive to another internal strife. Unless they go the angle of trying to establish a council to reign T'Challa in and showing the good and bad of that?


Naw, its T'challa's job to show Wakandan's why he is right.

Internal strife is ok and probably needed after such a huge policy change. I just don't want the internal strife to turn into bloodshed again.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 05, 2018, 07:30:11 am
I think the biggest issue with BP2 is finding a "social" angle to use

BP one had a very large "social angle" throughout the whole thing... what does a super advanced uber nation owe to the rest of the world mixed in with Killmonger's warped idea of how to help people.

People will expect something similar in BP2. If you just go in guns blazing comic book stuff, I wonder if fans will be pissed a bit?

I wouldn't be... that is what I am there for lol.

the most obvious social angle is "this is all the bad sh*t that can happen to your country if you do open up... but here is all the good sh*t too" which is had to portray I think on screen.

M'Butu and Niganda feels like a no-brainer.

Dictator of an oppressed country. The Niganda ppl want Wakanda's help, international politics say Wakanda can't just go barreling in and running sh*t, even tho War Dogs have already infiltrated and discovered secret project to create superhumans [like Zenzi].

Basically should Wakanda be the super-police of the world, and how far do they extend when the world wants more than just advanced flue shots and fancy STEM 101 university presentations.

With T'challa stuck in the middle trying to appease the UN while at the same time, fighting every urge from him to go in there himself and personally clean house

With various wakandans not being happy about using Wakandan lives for another country

hmmm

Bingo.  It should be a divide where the Wakandans are somewhat cool with just sharing a little bit here and there to the peaceful/cooperative countries, but what happens with the asshole countries who aren't playing that friendly ish?  Or those that have rebels who want Wakanda to overthrow the regime? 

But those rebels are the type of assholes who did what they did to Achebe...

There's a buncha gray area when it comes to being the super police of the world, esp when surrounded by nothing but asshole countries
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 05, 2018, 07:50:05 am
I think Wakanda is just fine after Avengers 3 and 4.  The Russos didn't want to step on Ryan's shoes during Civil War, I figure it'll be similar here.

Also, Letitia pretty much confirmed that Okoye, Nakia and them would be back for BP 2, back when media asked her if she wanted to branch off to do a Shuri movie and she was like nah, you can't have Shuri without big bro, okoye and nakia
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 05, 2018, 08:00:15 am
I think Wakanda is just fine after Avengers 3 and 4.  The Russos didn't want to step on Ryan's shoes during Civil War, I figure it'll be similar here.

Also, Letitia pretty much confirmed that Okoye, Nakia and them would be back for BP 2, back when media asked her if she wanted to branch off to do a Shuri movie and she was like nah, you can't have Shuri without big bro, okoye and nakia

Most likely yeah.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if Ayo is off'd.

Why isn't Queen Nakia in IW anyway? She stuck in Oakland?

I would imagine Thanos shows up, gets his last stone(s) and simply just leaves. He has no real need to destroy Wakanda if there isn't an actual stone hidden somewhere there. It would be rather insignificant and petty to him. I can honestly see him doing some, "Your warriors fight with valor not often seen in the universe" grins and just teleports out to go f*ck up the universe lol
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 05, 2018, 08:31:00 am
I also think the whole Wakandan dysfunction is overrated anyway.

Nobody cared about how the Zemo matter was resolved, nor had any finger-pointing about T'Chaka's death [except for M'Baku, who was just being a dick]

Nobody cared that a psychotic assassin was brought in by international terrorists and given refuge; in fact the kids of the country mock him and call him mean animal names

Hell none of the 4 tribes even wanted to challenge breh on challenge day, it was a formality.  They just got dressed, thinking this would be a quick sunday service followed by a big barbecue party with extra sugar in the koolaid.

Then bc of BP's benevolence towards M'Baku, all 5 tribes are united at the end. 

Wakandan's get along fine in the MCU.

 

Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 05, 2018, 08:39:25 am
I also think the whole Wakandan dysfunction is overrated anyway.

Nobody cared about how the Zemo matter was resolved, nor had any finger-pointing about T'Chaka's death [except for M'Baku, who was just being a dick]

Nobody cared that a psychotic assassin was brought in by international terrorists and given refuge; in fact the kids of the country mock him and call him mean animal names

Hell none of the 4 tribes even wanted to challenge breh on challenge day, it was a formality.  They just got dressed, thinking this would be a quick sunday service followed by a big barbecue party with extra sugar in the koolaid.

Then bc of BP's benevolence towards M'Baku, all 5 tribes are united at the end. 

Wakandan's get along fine in the MCU.

lol at the BBQ

the warriors were all dressed up too. For a second I thought we were goign ot get multiple fights before M'baku

nooooope. Dudes wanted no part. Just wanted to dress up for the day lol

M'baku is a national treasure


Also, no one but W'kabi gave a sh*t about Klaue either.

Old lady was just like "naw, f*ck that just stay here" lol
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: KIP LEWIS on March 05, 2018, 03:57:35 pm
Unless you have them fighting blue alien people, it's always going to be a delicate situation when it comes down to ____ on ____ violence. 

i.e. Can't have Captain America beating up nothing but black and brown people, because that's racist.  But nobody really cares if it's white on white tho.  Except if it's women, because #metoo

BP killed a buncha white ppl in South Korea, lowkey.  But kill nothing but white ppl and then BP is a black extremist.  Kill too many black ppl and he a coon.  Kill too many black women [like Erik apparently did] and he hates black women.

Killing redshirts never used to be this complicated  :-\

With all the recent complaints that all super hero movies end with CGI slugfests; BP 2 could hit new ground showing T'Challa solving some threat or disaster through his intellect and Wakandan tech.  You still have a villian, but the fight isn't the climax.  That could avoid (blank) on (blank) accusations.

Though I still like a good slugfests.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: APEXABYSS on March 05, 2018, 05:59:00 pm
African grappling is one of the oldest sports in the world. All combat techniques stem from these traditional tournaments. The origin was to give the winner an opportunity to court the princess & or raise their status in society, which proves Ďclassismí existed.

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnfa4g1gQ61qch0w2o1_1280.jpg)

Anyway, Wakanda has a similar tournament for the chance to become king & BP.

Maybe Wakanda needs to expand on the "BP challenge" to include more than just a singular fight. I believe the challengers should face a variety of tasks to prove their worth. Mind, body, & soul tests/ trials.

"They just got dressed... a big barbecue party with extra sugar in the koolaid". What flavor? RED! lol!
 never gets old. thanks RH

Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CvilleWakandan on March 05, 2018, 06:46:28 pm
African grappling is one of the oldest sports in the world. All combat techniques stem from these traditional tournaments. The origin was to give the winner an opportunity to court the princess & or raise their status in society, which proves Ďclassismí existed.

([url]http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnfa4g1gQ61qch0w2o1_1280.jpg[/url])

Anyway, Wakanda has a similar tournament for the chance to become king & BP.

Maybe Wakanda needs to expand on the "BP challenge" to include more than just a singular fight. I believe the challengers should face a variety of tasks to prove their worth. Mind, body, & soul tests/ trials.

"They just got dressed... a big barbecue party with extra sugar in the koolaid". What flavor? RED! lol!
 never gets old. thanks RH


There are supposed to be additional test, but writers tend to stick to the action. Kasper had to recite Wakandan history and fight at the same time.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on March 05, 2018, 06:48:52 pm
My thoughts.

First, NOTHING FROM COATES.   (Sorry, Zenzi).

Instead, have the threat be an external (but still African) foe. Probably not Azania... apartheid is no longer a thing, so having a foreign adversary that has racism as a national policy will go over like a lead balloon.  Instead, I'd do a riff on Achebe... a foreign agitator who manipulates events to gain power.  Since we also need someone to punch, you could throw in Salamander K'Ruel, or maybe Kraven.

And just because it amuses me, I'd also add a subplot where T'Challa and Nakia are planning to marry, but a certain foreign princess thinks she would be a better match.

(Yes, the Zanda subplot from Hudlin's run, with Nakia swapped in for Ororo.  Just for giggles, we could fix her up with M'baku afterwards ;) )
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CvilleWakandan on March 05, 2018, 06:57:02 pm
I vote for Strum and Drang, but substitute Namor for the comic villain. Basically use Rise of BP #2, but add more political elements.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on March 05, 2018, 07:01:56 pm
Other possible subplots:

T'Challa opens up a new consulate in NY, managed by one of his old teachers, Omoro (Wesley Snipes).

Shuri takes on a student, Chante Brown (who prefers the name Queen Divine Justice).

Nakia has to confront a face from her past, shady industrialist Moses Magnum, from the time when she was undercover as a singer named Monica Lynne.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 05, 2018, 08:11:21 pm
, from the time when she was undercover as a singer named Monica Lynne.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/6c46839db6628bc22bf2b82a14144482/tenor.gif?itemid=7965371)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 05, 2018, 09:27:26 pm
BoG coming in with the sweet subplots
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: BlindWedjat on March 06, 2018, 03:30:26 am
Something I was thinking of (well mostly daydreaming lol) a bit:

You have the Wakandan Outreach Centre in America and T'Challa has established. It's the MCU version of The Tomorrow Fund. Let's for now keep it in the same Oakland neighbourhood. That's your way to do the "The Client" storyline with Achebe invading the program. I need to reread the story because there isn't much I remember so I'm not sure how you'd do Achebe. Personally I don't want him to come across as a Joker-lite. He should be crazy, no doubt. But he should also be pretty formidable. Someone that can handle himself but not necessarily fight a Wakandan like Okoye, Nakia or T'Challa. He should be more like a mind game for T'Challa to play. How can he found out where he is? How can he stop him other than just beating him up? But T'Challa and his entourage still need fodder to punch, so he can have his goons or whatever.

I think they should also combine this with Queen Divine Justice. Make her a lot older than she is in the comics She shouldn't be a teenager anyway but she should be younger than T'Challa and Nakia, but older than Shuri. Make her less sassy (because Shuri is already that) and an activist in her neighbourhood.  You can still do the "she's actually a Wakandan princess" thing and I think it can be a good way to show T'Challa has grown and learned something. See, QDJ in this case would be similar to Killmonger: Another Wakandan stranded in the USA, seen the oppression of black people and wants to do something about it. Differences being QDJ doesn't know she's Wakandan and isn't an extremist like Killmonger. This time, T'Challa should make the choice to bring her home to the Jabari whenever he finds out she's Wakandan. Maybe you can set up M'Baku as a villain from there, though I've thought of a much different way to handle that.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: supreme illuminati on March 06, 2018, 08:57:40 am
I also think the whole Wakandan dysfunction is overrated anyway.

Nobody cared about how the Zemo matter was resolved, nor had any finger-pointing about T'Chaka's death [except for M'Baku, who was just being a dick]

Nobody cared that a psychotic assassin was brought in by international terrorists and given refuge; in fact the kids of the country mock him and call him mean animal names

Hell none of the 4 tribes even wanted to challenge breh on challenge day, it was a formality.  They just got dressed, thinking this would be a quick sunday service followed by a big barbecue party with extra sugar in the koolaid.

Then bc of BP's benevolence towards M'Baku, all 5 tribes are united at the end. 

Wakandan's get along fine in the MCU.


As it should be!^^^
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on March 06, 2018, 11:01:43 am
Something I was thinking of (well mostly daydreaming lol) a bit:

You have the Wakandan Outreach Centre in America and T'Challa has established. It's the MCU version of The Tomorrow Fund. Let's for now keep it in the same Oakland neighbourhood. That's your way to do the "The Client" storyline with Achebe invading the program. I need to reread the story because there isn't much I remember so I'm not sure how you'd do Achebe. Personally I don't want him to come across as a Joker-lite. He should be crazy, no doubt. But he should also be pretty formidable. Someone that can handle himself but not necessarily fight a Wakandan like Okoye, Nakia or T'Challa. He should be more like a mind game for T'Challa to play. How can he found out where he is? How can he stop him other than just beating him up? But T'Challa and his entourage still need fodder to punch, so he can have his goons or whatever.

I thought about doing the Tomorrow Fund thing with the Outreach Center, but rejected the idea because:

A. It makes Shuri look ineffectual that this sort of corruption could happen on her watch, and
B. I still want to do the Consulate thing, and that makes more sense in NY or Chicago than Oakland.

As for Achebe, I see him as something of an African Hannibal Lecter type.  Sophisticated, well-educated, charming... and utterly mad.

I'm not sure who could play him, though.  The actors I can think of (Denzel, Morgan Freeman) are a bit on the older side.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CvilleWakandan on March 06, 2018, 11:25:20 am
Something I was thinking of (well mostly daydreaming lol) a bit:

You have the Wakandan Outreach Centre in America and T'Challa has established. It's the MCU version of The Tomorrow Fund. Let's for now keep it in the same Oakland neighbourhood. That's your way to do the "The Client" storyline with Achebe invading the program. I need to reread the story because there isn't much I remember so I'm not sure how you'd do Achebe. Personally I don't want him to come across as a Joker-lite. He should be crazy, no doubt. But he should also be pretty formidable. Someone that can handle himself but not necessarily fight a Wakandan like Okoye, Nakia or T'Challa. He should be more like a mind game for T'Challa to play. How can he found out where he is? How can he stop him other than just beating him up? But T'Challa and his entourage still need fodder to punch, so he can have his goons or whatever.

I thought about doing the Tomorrow Fund thing with the Outreach Center, but rejected the idea because:

A. It makes Shuri look ineffectual that this sort of corruption could happen on her watch, and
B. I still want to do the Consulate thing, and that makes more sense in NY or Chicago than Oakland.

As for Achebe, I see him as something of an African Hannibal Lecter type.  Sophisticated, well-educated, charming... and utterly mad.

I'm not sure who could play him, though.  The actors I can think of (Denzel, Morgan Freeman) are a bit on the older side.

How about the actor from Captain Phillips?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 06, 2018, 11:46:20 am
hmm is Moses Magnum owned by Marvel Studios or is he considered an X character?

as a arms dealer type, he'd be interested in that giant ass mound of vibranium
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 06, 2018, 01:26:11 pm
Something I was thinking of (well mostly daydreaming lol) a bit:

You have the Wakandan Outreach Centre in America and T'Challa has established. It's the MCU version of The Tomorrow Fund. Let's for now keep it in the same Oakland neighbourhood. That's your way to do the "The Client" storyline with Achebe invading the program. I need to reread the story because there isn't much I remember so I'm not sure how you'd do Achebe. Personally I don't want him to come across as a Joker-lite. He should be crazy, no doubt. But he should also be pretty formidable. Someone that can handle himself but not necessarily fight a Wakandan like Okoye, Nakia or T'Challa. He should be more like a mind game for T'Challa to play. How can he found out where he is? How can he stop him other than just beating him up? But T'Challa and his entourage still need fodder to punch, so he can have his goons or whatever.

I thought about doing the Tomorrow Fund thing with the Outreach Center, but rejected the idea because:

A. It makes Shuri look ineffectual that this sort of corruption could happen on her watch, and
B. I still want to do the Consulate thing, and that makes more sense in NY or Chicago than Oakland.

As for Achebe, I see him as something of an African Hannibal Lecter type.  Sophisticated, well-educated, charming... and utterly mad.

I'm not sure who could play him, though.  The actors I can think of (Denzel, Morgan Freeman) are a bit on the older side.

How about the actor from Captain Phillips?

We going from Handsome Erik (pause) to Ugly Achebe (halt)?

I've never seen captain phillips, but if breh can act and can find an appropriate dragon ball z character costume to mimic, i suppose it can work.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on March 06, 2018, 02:10:35 pm
How about the actor from Captain Phillips?


If you mean this guy, I have no idea if he can pull off the "urbane but insane" vibe I'm looking for.  I never saw that film.

(http://screamyell.com.br/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/capitain.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CKW on March 06, 2018, 03:04:05 pm
How about the actor from Captain Phillips?


If you mean this guy, I have no idea if he can pull off the "urbane but insane" vibe I'm looking for.  I never saw that film.

([url]http://screamyell.com.br/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/capitain.jpg[/url])


He had a decent bit part in Blade Runner 2049. He has range.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on March 06, 2018, 03:33:22 pm
I was thinking someone more charming.  Maybe Donald Glover as Achebe?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Rise Above on March 06, 2018, 03:58:28 pm
I was thinking someone more charming.  Maybe Donald Glover as Achebe?

Donald Glover is already attached to the Spiderman franchise. In light of the recent  Oscarís I suggest Keegan-Michael Key for Achebe
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Rise Above on March 06, 2018, 04:22:14 pm
I was thinking someone more charming.  Maybe Donald Glover as Achebe?

Donald Glover is already attached to the Spiderman franchise. In light of the recent  Oscarís I suggest Keegan-Michael Key for Achebe

Alternately, Giancarlo Esposito can pull off ďurbane and insaneĒ like none other.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on March 06, 2018, 04:44:52 pm
Keegan's a bit too buff.  But Giancarlo has potential...
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 06, 2018, 05:51:19 pm
just get boyega on here and save hi. From the Star warsverse
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 06, 2018, 06:04:48 pm
just get boyega on here and save hi. From the Star warsverse

Boyega don't wanna be saved.

He in the sunken (star wars) place
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on March 06, 2018, 06:10:45 pm
Well, we know he likes giant robots, so what about casting him as Taku?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: BlackClaw on March 06, 2018, 06:13:50 pm
If Boyega doesnít come to Wakanda, the least he can do is head on over to DC and play John Stewart.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 06, 2018, 07:28:01 pm
Well, we know he likes giant robots, so what about casting him as Taku?

could work. How would he be introduced?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CvilleWakandan on March 06, 2018, 07:33:56 pm
Well, we know he likes giant robots, so what about casting him as Taku?

could work. How would he be introduced?

I think we should write letters to the MCU asking to introduce the Tech Jungle that Tchalla built during the tens years of BP that is managed by Taku
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on March 06, 2018, 07:51:23 pm
could work. How would he be introduced?

Well, since Wakanda has dropped the whole "hidden by a hologram" defense, the Border Tribe's quiet protection really isn't sufficient, so it would make sense that T'Challa would conceal artificial defenses in the terrain.   SOMEBODY needs to manage that, perhaps in an underground bunker (for safety, of course) that is a jungle of monitors and other tech. :)

(I would suggest making Taku Border Tribe aBTW, as it would appease the tribe over the loss of their traditional protective role by keeping security their responsibility, as well as indicating to the rest of Wakanda that he doesn't demonize the entire tribe for W'kabi's poor choices.)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 06, 2018, 08:40:54 pm
Boyega already said in an interview a couple weeks back that he doesn't want to be a part of black panther but he supports Letitia Wright b/c they been known each other from the Brit days before they made it acting.

John in the sunken (star wars) place, and T'Challa's Wakandan outreach program can't save those who don't want to be saved
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 06, 2018, 09:35:38 pm
could work. How would he be introduced?

Well, since Wakanda has dropped the whole "hidden by a hologram" defense, the Border Tribe's quiet protection really isn't sufficient, so it would make sense that T'Challa would conceal artificial defenses in the terrain.   SOMEBODY needs to manage that, perhaps in an underground bunker (for safety, of course) that is a jungle of monitors and other tech. :)

(I would suggest making Taku Border Tribe aBTW, as it would appease the tribe over the loss of their traditional protective role by keeping security their responsibility, as well as indicating to the rest of Wakanda that he doesn't demonize the entire tribe for W'kabi's poor choices.)

Would be easier if all of them didn't follow his lead. Ironically the border tribe made themselves into the new jabari tribe
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on March 07, 2018, 02:43:05 am
Would be easier if all of them didn't follow his lead. Ironically the border tribe made themselves into the new jabari tribe

Well, that's just it.  I doubt ALL of them followed his lead.  Wakanda is a fairly large place, after all.  I could easily see them handwaving that the majority of the Border Tribe stayed loyal, and only those under W'Kabi's command revolted, mainly out of personal loyalty to him.

(I find that the weakest part of the movie, anyway.  The Border Tribe betrayed Wakanda FAR too easily, especially when it was shown T'Challa was still alive, and hence Killmonger was not the rightful king.  So this works for me)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 07, 2018, 04:53:38 am
Would be easier if all of them didn't follow his lead. Ironically the border tribe made themselves into the new jabari tribe

Well, that's just it.  I doubt ALL of them followed his lead.  Wakanda is a fairly large place, after all.  I could easily see them handwaving that the majority of the Border Tribe stayed loyal, and only those under W'Kabi's command revolted, mainly out of personal loyalty to him.

(I find that the weakest part of the movie, anyway.  The Border Tribe betrayed Wakanda FAR too easily, especially when it was shown T'Challa was still alive, and hence Killmonger was not the rightful king.  So this works for me)

O feel like another scene talking about how there were those who were completely on board with the idea of being r more war waging, possibly when Tchalla and W'kabi were talking at border (this could of been a direct response to W'kabi feeling like the world got off easy killing their former King) and W'kabi is itching for vengeance. Another alternative could of been thr jabari came sooner then later for a two part attack. Either way there did Beed ti be more I agree.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 07, 2018, 04:56:59 am
Would be easier if all of them didn't follow his lead. Ironically the border tribe made themselves into the new jabari tribe

Well, that's just it.  I doubt ALL of them followed his lead.  Wakanda is a fairly large place, after all.  I could easily see them handwaving that the majority of the Border Tribe stayed loyal, and only those under W'Kabi's command revolted, mainly out of personal loyalty to him.

(I find that the weakest part of the movie, anyway.  The Border Tribe betrayed Wakanda FAR too easily, especially when it was shown T'Challa was still alive, and hence Killmonger was not the rightful king.  So this works for me)

I see it more as W'kabi betrayed him (which I could see, he was more militant and hurt by Klaws lack of being captured) and the others just followed orders. and yeah, I really doubt the whole tribe was there.


But yeah, Taku as the new "W'kabi" is an easy solution.

Also, N'gassi or Mendinao to replace Zuri


and yeah, the defense of the border should be more tech based now. The illusion that it is a simple farming country is over. Time for panther statues shooting laser beams please.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 07, 2018, 05:49:41 am
The border tribe was actually conflicted.  It was W'Kabi who was being a dick.

In the final throne room scene, the border tribe elder was among the council [along with with M'Baku], so all 5 tribes are cool again.

The Wakandans get along fine
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 07, 2018, 05:50:48 am
Okoye will make W'Kabi sleep on the couch for a month.  Whether that's before or after some jail time or community service hours is up for debate.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: BlackClaw on March 07, 2018, 08:31:11 am
Okoye will make W'Kabi sleep on the couch for a month.  Whether that's before or after some jail time or community service hours is up for debate.

I wonít be surprised if Okoye divorced his ass and took the rhino with her.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 07, 2018, 12:31:29 pm
Okoye will make W'Kabi sleep on the couch for a month.  Whether that's before or after some jail time or community service hours is up for debate.

I wonít be surprised if Okoye divorced his ass and took the rhino with her.

Ouch!

"I'm taking the house, the kids, the car, and the rhino!"

Cold blooded
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 08, 2018, 08:44:03 am
So Bucky is White Wolf moving forward.

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Sebastian Stan's rehabilitated assassin now goes by White Wolf. It's intriguing to see a man whose memories were scrambled, wiped, and rebuilt paired with Pom Klementieff's alien mind-reader.

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Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 08, 2018, 08:47:07 am
As someone who likes comic Hunter (while also understanding while his existence is a bit ridiculous) this makes me kinda sad.

Hunter had about a 1% chance of ever showing up in a BP movie so really, it isn't that big of a deal.


Somewhere, 4sake is fist pumping Kobe style
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 09, 2018, 07:16:34 am
http://ew.com/movies/2018/03/09/marvel-studios-kevin-feige-mcu-future/ (http://ew.com/movies/2018/03/09/marvel-studios-kevin-feige-mcu-future/)

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY:

What can you tell us about plans for a Black Panther sequel?


KEVIN FIEGE:
Nothing specific to reveal, other than to say we absolutely will do that. One of the favorite pastimes at Marvel Studios is sitting around on a Part One and talking and dreaming about what we would do in a Part Two. There have been plenty of those conversations as we were putting together the first Black Panther. We have ideas and a pretty solid direction on where we want to head with the second one.

Looks like we're coming back for another one, didn't see that coming ;)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 09, 2018, 07:28:45 am
You opened Black Panther with a prologue set in 1992. I wondered if we might expect more hero stories to be set in that time period going forward?

I would say no. I mean, in terms of Captain Marvel and a young TíChaka in í92, no. Thatís not where weíre headed. But we would talk about the ancestral plane sequence [in Black Panther] where, towards the end of the movie, TíChalla takes the herb again and encounters his father, where heís like, ďHey, man. Weíve kind of screwed up, and I want to change it.Ē Thereís that moment where all of the ancestors come behind TíChaka. We would joke and go, ďI want to see Ö whatís their story? Whatís that story? Who was Bashenga, the first king of Wakanda? Whoís that third to the left, behind TíChaka? What was their story in Wakanda in 1938? That would be cool.Ē It all starts as conversations like that. The more audiences want to see these stories, the more opportunities we have to explore different places and time.

Usually, we get three stand-alone movies for a single hero, then some team-ups. But is there potential in Black Panther beyond that? I see people saying, ďI want a Dora Milaje movie. I would like a Shuri movie.Ē Do you see more potential there, or do you think youíll stick with that kind of three-act structure that youíve followed in the past?


I think thereís lots of potential. Itís a balance between leaving people wanting more and then giving them too much, but I would watch a movie about any of those characters you just named. I think Shuriís astounding, and youíll see much more of her in our universe. Okoye, I think Iíd watch three action films just Okoye. Iím not saying weíre doing that, but Iím saying that weíre intrigued by them. Frankly, as Iíve said before, finishing these first 22 movies is really all weíre thinking about at this point.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 09, 2018, 07:39:19 am
I don't believe that. Feige is just being nice lol
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 09, 2018, 07:50:29 am
That's the thing, you could make an expanded universe From BP just like Batman. Except you could make a spin off and be good since the supporting cast has been freshed out nicely and well developed.

I would like a GoT styles HBO world of Wakanda, and set it back in Bashengas time when the 5 tribes we're warring.  And then do a modern day version too
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 09, 2018, 08:10:40 am
I think they should keep it a tight 3 movies first before any of that other stuff.  It's lowkey divide and conquer tactics to cause division and diminishing returns. 

Oh so-and-so from twitter or youtube wants a Shuri movie or a Dora Milaje movie?  Um yea, it's called Black Panther 2  ;)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 09, 2018, 08:15:06 am
That's the thing, you could make an expanded universe From BP just like Batman. Except you could make a spin off and be good since the supporting cast has been freshed out nicely and well developed.

I would like a GoT styles HBO world of Wakanda, and set it back in Bashengas time when the 5 tribes we're warring.  And then do a modern day version too


Even Batman has never been able to get any of his well known sidekicks a movie. We might, maybe, kinda? get a Nightwing movie sometime in the next 5 years. They are just now trying to develop a Joker movie.

Spider-Man is getting his first spin off ever with Venom.

i mean, its a cool thought, but for all the "derp derp tchalla wasn't the lead in his own movie" crap... the whole cast revolved around him.

If you were going to do a spin off movie, being about a War Dog would make the most sense. War Dogs dont "need" T'challa so to speak A Nakia movie would be much easier than Okoye. Okoye, as cool and bad ass as she is, is simply a bodyguard for instance.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 09, 2018, 08:19:36 am
I think they should keep it a tight 3 movies first before any of that other stuff.  It's lowkey divide and conquer tactics to cause division and diminishing returns. 

Oh so-and-so from twitter or youtube wants a Shuri movie or a Dora Milaje movie?  Um yea, it's called Black Panther 2  ;)

Only way I could see a "spin off " movie working would be having Shuri and Nakia at the Wakanda Out Reach center and some sh*t goes down there and they hav eto defend kids

or something

Otherwise, outside of a War Dog story (Nakia goes back to free Boko Haram slaves or something), any story where Okoye or Shuri or Nakia would be the hero... you can just substitute the real star... Black Panther lol



Now, if you wanna back go in time and do a Flags of our Fathers type movie... I am down. Just switch out Cap and put in Isiah Bradley instead. and use T'chaka or Azzuri.

Its not like WW2 ended the second Cap defeated Red Skull. There was still that pesky hitler dude (along with Hydra split offs)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: KIP LEWIS on March 09, 2018, 09:15:54 am
I really do want to see a young 90s T'Chaka.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 09, 2018, 09:24:52 am
I think they should keep it a tight 3 movies first before any of that other stuff.  It's lowkey divide and conquer tactics to cause division and diminishing returns. 

Oh so-and-so from twitter or youtube wants a Shuri movie or a Dora Milaje movie?  Um yea, it's called Black Panther 2  ;)

Only way I could see a "spin off " movie working would be having Shuri and Nakia at the Wakanda Out Reach center and some sh*t goes down there and they hav eto defend kids

or something

Otherwise, outside of a War Dog story (Nakia goes back to free Boko Haram slaves or something), any story where Okoye or Shuri or Nakia would be the hero... you can just substitute the real star... Black Panther lol

It's just some nonsensical roxanne gay/nnedi okorafor vocal minority types talking out their ass on the innatez.  You can't have a shuri or dora movie without the titular character they are joined at the hip to being there, and if he's going to need to be there... that's what black panther 2 is for.

But that vocal minority is the same group that would just as soon have t'chadwick killed by the rhyno so a random wakandan girl can be consumed by a symbiote and be the new ruler.  they ain't slick
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 09, 2018, 09:41:18 am
I really do want to see a young 90s T'Chaka.

Azzuri works better

You can basically use the flags story but eith Isiah

You can also plant the seeds of Njobo wanting to "free" all blacks after he sees isiah and his men. Njobo and tchaka woukd be kids ish



I wonder why they didnt just use Syan.

At this point, Syan has to be a deep undercover war dog or doesnt exist
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: KIP LEWIS on March 09, 2018, 06:36:47 pm
I really do want to see a young 90s T'Chaka.

Azzuri works better

You can basically use the flags story but eith Isiah

You can also plant the seeds of Njobo wanting to "free" all blacks after he sees isiah and his men. Njobo and tchaka woukd be kids ish

I wonder why they didnt just use Syan.

At this point, Syan has to be a deep undercover war dog or doesnt exist

Well the reason I want to see 90s T'Chaka was the actor impressed me in the two seconds he was in screen.  I wanted to see more.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: BlindWedjat on March 10, 2018, 01:07:10 am
I would definitely love to see more of T'Chaka in his younger days as king and Black Panther. That costume was killer, and Atandwa Kani's portrayal was really good with the little screen time he had. I know some people would have preferred someone else for T'Chaka but I really liked John Kani in the role as well, especially in this movie.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: BlindWedjat on March 10, 2018, 01:08:44 am
I think they should keep it a tight 3 movies first before any of that other stuff.  It's lowkey divide and conquer tactics to cause division and diminishing returns. 

Oh so-and-so from twitter or youtube wants a Shuri movie or a Dora Milaje movie?  Um yea, it's called Black Panther 2  ;)

Only way I could see a "spin off " movie working would be having Shuri and Nakia at the Wakanda Out Reach center and some sh*t goes down there and they hav eto defend kids

or something

Otherwise, outside of a War Dog story (Nakia goes back to free Boko Haram slaves or something), any story where Okoye or Shuri or Nakia would be the hero... you can just substitute the real star... Black Panther lol



Now, if you wanna back go in time and do a Flags of our Fathers type movie... I am down. Just switch out Cap and put in Isiah Bradley instead. and use T'chaka or Azzuri.

Its not like WW2 ended the second Cap defeated Red Skull. There was still that pesky hitler dude (along with Hydra split offs)

Even some of those plot point could be used in a movie that has T'Challa as the star too. And a Flags of our Fathers type movie would be so cool.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 10, 2018, 08:56:49 pm
I think they should keep it a tight 3 movies first before any of that other stuff.  It's lowkey divide and conquer tactics to cause division and diminishing returns. 

Oh so-and-so from twitter or youtube wants a Shuri movie or a Dora Milaje movie?  Um yea, it's called Black Panther 2  ;)

Only way I could see a "spin off " movie working would be having Shuri and Nakia at the Wakanda Out Reach center and some sh*t goes down there and they hav eto defend kids

or something

Otherwise, outside of a War Dog story (Nakia goes back to free Boko Haram slaves or something), any story where Okoye or Shuri or Nakia would be the hero... you can just substitute the real star... Black Panther lol



Now, if you wanna back go in time and do a Flags of our Fathers type movie... I am down. Just switch out Cap and put in Isiah Bradley instead. and use T'chaka or Azzuri.

Its not like WW2 ended the second Cap defeated Red Skull. There was still that pesky hitler dude (along with Hydra split offs)

Even some of those plot point could be used in a movie that has T'Challa as the star too. And a Flags of our Fathers type movie would be so cool.

Yup.  I know we're in a sensitive era of hollywood with rapists and creeps being outed and so the "cool" ancillary thing to do is jump the gun with reactionary _World of Wakanda "we can stand on our own" Roxanne Gay_ rhetoric for any female that gains even an ounce of popularity... but everyone just needs to relax.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 10, 2018, 09:25:04 pm
Certain nerds on the innanetz just gotta deal with the fact that a noble, super powered, dark skinned, masculine black man is the head honcho of this comic book ish and that mainstream audiences recognize him as the star attraction

Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 10, 2018, 10:03:46 pm
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIEopGV99fo#)

i forget what we're calling the thing his suit does with the kinetic energy release, but he uses it as a hadouken here.  I think we've spoke about it before. 

Let him store his kinetic energy and release it in any which way he wants.  Like a hadouken!
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on March 11, 2018, 05:55:24 am
I think the poll ended with "Panther's Roar" (one of my suggestions. ;) ) in the lead.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 11, 2018, 08:04:10 am
Panther's Roar Kamehameha
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 11, 2018, 09:16:03 am
I like Panthers Roar. It sounds like something Tchalla would name it A
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Rise Above on March 11, 2018, 01:34:23 pm
If you can find a translation for ďPantherís RoarĒin an African language it would be perfect IMO
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: DigiCom on March 11, 2018, 02:10:10 pm
In Xhosa, the Wakandan stand-in in the MCU: Ingwe Ibhonga.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: APEXABYSS on March 12, 2018, 02:47:15 pm
Mephisto could be more of a spirit (african lore of sorts??) than the true devil.



Energy daggers... you all know what I want!

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Would love to see something similar to this...

Yo, besides the rape camps (knee-grow, please), my main issue with Coates is his take on the ďMissing OrishaĒ!  you can get hurt or injured embellishing on spiritual (spear- ritual) beliefs. I give Catholics, Hebrews & Muslims Ďthe bluesí about their religions. Why? Cuzz they deserve it. Why support corrupted doctrines?

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African origin Holistic belief systems deserve better than Mephisto.

Orishas are principles & not real anamorphised deities. Why negatively distort ancient African religion for fiction? Coates literally ruined basic logic (of the orisha) to apparently appease some monster/ demon narrative. 

Most of you religious Abraham followers canít handle when someone challenges your believes.  But, itís fine in the Nation Under Our (what are thoooose?) Feet?
 
I donít know Coach Coates. Iím sure heís a fine gentleman, but his take on BP is probably the worst Iíve ever seen.  Stelfreeze saving grace was divine intervention.

Remember, devils, demons, angels & humanized deities do not exist in African culture. All that nonsense stems from religions outside the culture. Only the ancestors.

Listen! There is no pantheon of African deities. The Ďso-calledí deities are universal principles (earth, wind & fire etc). Bast is a tame version of Sehkmet. The moral of the story is to check power when it becomes chaotic or uncontrollable.

Another example: African(orisha)Goddess Oshun represents all waters &/or liquids.  The earth is made-up of mostly water. We call that water the Ocean (from the goddess Oshun). IS water alive? Sure! Itís metaphysical!

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Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread... Coach Coates plays the villain! BP uses actual AFRICAN ORIGIN Mysticism!

WWO COMING SOON. all shall bow
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 13, 2018, 10:51:05 am
Ingwe Ibhonga Kamehameha!

Hmmm...  i guess we could make that work  :P
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 17, 2018, 12:44:43 pm
Out of left field bp 2 plot...

Mbaku is being introduced to a lot of dudes and chicks with super powers in IW who can kick his ass very easily

Its one thing to be inferior to ur king who u respect...

But cap, bucky, hulk, thor, sw, vision, drax, gamora, ect? Let alone thanos black order

That gotta be w blow to his ego. And question his ability to protect his tribe...

So what if he goes off to find a power source... and searches for the forbidden white gorilla.... making him avator or haruman...

From here u an go in lots of directions but it creates a villain with motivations that make sense again.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 17, 2018, 01:44:42 pm
Out of left field bp 2 plot...

Mbaku is being introduced to a lot of dudes and chicks with super powers in IW who can kick his ass very easily

Its one thing to be inferior to ur king who u respect...

But cap, bucky, hulk, thor, sw, vision, drax, gamora, ect? Let alone thanos black order

That gotta be w blow to his ego. And question his ability to protect his tribe...

So what if he goes off to find a power source... and searches for the forbidden white gorilla.... making him avator or haruman...

From here u an go in lots of directions but it creates a villain with motivations that make sense again.

As long as M'Baku doesn't die.. I am not ready to let him go yet. Hell MbJ did good with Erik I didn't want him to die either.. not yet at least
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: 4sake on March 17, 2018, 05:30:43 pm
Out of left field bp 2 plot...

Mbaku is being introduced to a lot of dudes and chicks with super powers in IW who can kick his ass very easily

Its one thing to be inferior to ur king who u respect...

But cap, bucky, hulk, thor, sw, vision, drax, gamora, ect? Let alone thanos black order

That gotta be w blow to his ego. And question his ability to protect his tribe...

So what if he goes off to find a power source... and searches for the forbidden white gorilla.... making him avator or haruman...

From here u an go in lots of directions but it creates a villain with motivations that make sense again.

He should get some type powers (be it tech base or etc), as should other Wakandans (Shuri, QDJ & SKM imo  - if he come black), it's unnecessary and lazy imo to make a villain.. An antagonist or anti-hero maybe..

Mbaku & W'Kabi are/we're BP best friends ( other than Shuri, she must not be named, must not be named and insert random white superhero ), but we are rarely shown it.. I'm it been must better & more interesting if that shown in in flim..

All the White heroes in MCU have Black super powered male best friend BP at very least deserves the same.. Mbaku for that role..
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 17, 2018, 06:38:27 pm
Out of left field bp 2 plot...

Mbaku is being introduced to a lot of dudes and chicks with super powers in IW who can kick his ass very easily

Its one thing to be inferior to ur king who u respect...

But cap, bucky, hulk, thor, sw, vision, drax, gamora, ect? Let alone thanos black order

That gotta be w blow to his ego. And question his ability to protect his tribe...

So what if he goes off to find a power source... and searches for the forbidden white gorilla.... making him avator or haruman...

From here u an go in lots of directions but it creates a villain with motivations that make sense again.


He should get some type powers (be it tech base or etc), as should other Wakandans (Shuri, QDJ & SKM imo  - if he come black), it's unnecessary and lazy imo to make a villain.. An antagonist or anti-hero maybe..

Mbaku & W'Kabi are/we're BP best friends ( other than Shuri, she must not be named, must not be named and insert random white superhero ), but we are rarely shown it.. I'm it been must better & more interesting if that shown in in flim..

All the White heroes in MCU have Black super powered male best friend BP at very least deserves the same.. Mbaku for that role..


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Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 17, 2018, 06:45:20 pm
M'Baku does need that Hanuman power upgrade, or something. 
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 17, 2018, 06:50:48 pm
But yea, i'm 100% against M'Baku being a villain. 

Or W'Kabi for that matter.

I think back to how the comics have done such a sh*tty job in killing off all of T'Challa's black male friends.  He literally doesn't have any actual friends other than like, Reed.  It's fukkin stupid, and then these writers just try to double down on the estrogen to the point where i'm not sure what the fukk book i'm reading.

It was so refreshing seeing T'Challa and W'Kabi chillin in that rhyno farm just talkin like bros about girls and conquering the world.  Normal sh*t.

T'Challa, M'Baku, and W'Kabi not to have their own sub arc where they become the best of bros.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 18, 2018, 05:36:23 am
In my version, the power would corrupt mbaku.

So, while of course,  they would have an epic fight... it wouldnt  result in mbakus death...

Tchalla would work up the ladder to take on haruman himself to save his friend

Haruman would be the mephisto in this case

Si, in the end... mbaku keeps his spiderman level strength, and their friendship and respect is strengthened after tge lengths tchalla goes to save him


And yeah i agree.. comic tchalla hangs around too many chicks that are fam or friends. Dude just wants to watch some nba playoffs but gets stuck watching real housewives instead .

Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 18, 2018, 07:35:04 am
But yea, i'm 100% against M'Baku being a villain. 

Or W'Kabi for that matter.

I think back to how the comics have done such a sh*tty job in killing off all of T'Challa's black male friends.  He literally doesn't have any actual friends other than like, Reed.  It's fukkin stupid, and then these writers just try to double down on the estrogen to the point where i'm not sure what the fukk book i'm reading.

It was so refreshing seeing T'Challa and W'Kabi chillin in that rhyno farm just talkin like bros about girls and conquering the world.  Normal sh*t.

T'Challa, M'Baku, and W'Kabi not to have their own sub arc where they become the best of bros.

Volume 5 through Doom War was the worst thing to ever happen to the BP franchise.

It unceremoniously killed off M'baku, W'kabi, Zuri, S'yan... the first three by a god damn Spider-Man villain. The last one by a bast damn F4 villain. So it didn't even build any "villain cred" for the mythos.

it showed Doom's superiority over T'challa in combat... twice.

It showed Doom's superiority over all of Wakanda in using Vibranium.

It turned the Dora's from real characters into a walking red shirt characterless army.

I mean, yeesh.

And for what.. FOR WHAT? What did we gain from this?

Sales? nope. Cool Shuri stuff? Not really... shuri wasn't fully used as BP until Kingpin of Wakanda and then Hickman. Cool feats... umm where? never mentioned again shadow physics?


The vacuum created by these 18 issues is what allowed Coates to do all this Coates bullsh*t.

The AvX storm bullsh*t gets pointed to as a "low" for the franchise, but this was much much much much much worse.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 18, 2018, 07:57:21 am
Yeah and the wordy part is that sw was the key to fixing it. But Coates doubled down and used it for no one man. Though o gotta say, ot likely wouldn't matter if they were alive because Coates likely would of used them in a scene to throw around some sexist ass sh*t like no other for his agenda
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 18, 2018, 08:43:42 am
Sometimes I wonder what Hudlin and Mayberry talked about (if they talked at all) during that transition period.

Because those 18 issues pretty much undid the entire 4+ years of Hudlin's work... and then punished BP fans for the next 8 years with these terrible "deconstruction" stories.

As a creator, you absolutely cannot have Doom use Vibranium better than the Wakandans.  Nor can you have Bast let Doom stroll up to the ancestral plane and get a "pass" bc of some made up bullsh*t. And as a creator you cannot have your main character get ambushed and near killed by the final villain of your run, and not have the character get a resounding revenge [death of villain or beating within an inch of the villain's life] after you've established for 4+ years that the character is the type that gets that type of revenge. 

The whole point of ambush attacks in story telling is to establish that the villain has to cheat to get a leg up because otherwise in a level playing field he knows he's going to take that L.  They completely disregarded that basic story book principle to allow the white supremacists to have his way with the black characters mytho.  How was this allowed to go through the planning meeting when Mayberry took over? 
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: KIP LEWIS on March 18, 2018, 08:45:12 am
Yeah and the wordy part is that sw was the key to fixing it. But Coates doubled down and used it for no one man. Though o gotta say, ot likely wouldn't matter if they were alive because Coates likely would of used them in a scene to throw around some sexist ass sh*t like no other for his agenda

John Byrne has said this, and I think it fits here.  There are two kind of writers in comics:  1) How can I tell a great BP story? These are the stories that fit BP.  2) How can I tell the story I want to tell, and shoehorn BP into it?  (it doesn't matter if I totally decimate the hero doing it as long as I can tell my story.)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 18, 2018, 09:00:39 am
And i'd agree that the 18 issue transition was way worse than AvX

Fictitious New York gets flooded blownup destroyed invaded every day b!   

People get divorced everyday b! 

Only reason these two concepts dragged on for years and years is because we have ain't sh*t writers who lack a creative bone in their body to do anything but drag out the same tired plot points.

Peter Parker got divorced... he done had 5-6 girlfriends in the 5-6 years that followed.
New York gets the magic wand eraser that removes all the deconstruction from the last 10 big events in the past 5 years that destroyed all of New York.

What happened in those 18 issues is much more problematic because his supporting cast was killed, vibranium was made obsolete, his country and scentific wonders was made to look inferior to a white supremacist, his spiritual diety was made to look useless when her people needed her, and a conflict of interest was made with Shuri being "black panther" not due to T'Challa stepping down or dying but from a story arc where naturally the conclusion would be for him to regain the mantle again.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 18, 2018, 09:06:38 am
It's why i personally never cared as much for the whole Namor thing.

I mean yes, he needs to die off principle. [ironically marvel writers always side step the fact that Emma Frost is just as culpable for that flood sh*t]

But i always viewed that sh*t as a distraction from the real problematic character in the mytho that needed to be addressed: Dr. Doom.

Pretty much one of those puppets on a string "lets distract the black guy with the asian so that the white racist is off the hook..."

Nah fukk that, i ain't forget

I ain't forget Emma Frost thot ass either
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: 4sake on March 18, 2018, 09:10:08 am
Yeah and the wordy part is that sw was the key to fixing it. But Coates doubled down and used it for no one man. Though o gotta say, ot likely wouldn't matter if they were alive because Coates likely would of used them in a scene to throw around some sexist ass sh*t like no other for his agenda

Knowing TNC he'd make Zuri & Mendinao would be rapist/in party to rape, S'Yan would be deadbeat dad/absentee father to a completely new character or one of DM or M'Baku, N'Gassi would be in the closet all these years and would have had a secret gay relationship with Azzair the wise & Juri & every other issue will be reminded of that time W'Kabi back slapped his wife in front of his sons, Then W'Kabi do the same thing to a young female wakandan that he's dating and cry blame it on his father and toxic masculinity..
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: 4sake on March 18, 2018, 09:12:13 am
Yeah and the wordy part is that sw was the key to fixing it. But Coates doubled down and used it for no one man. Though o gotta say, ot likely wouldn't matter if they were alive because Coates likely would of used them in a scene to throw around some sexist ass sh*t like no other for his agenda

John Byrne has said this, and I think it fits here.  There are two kind of writers in comics:  1) How can I tell a great BP story? These are the stories that fit BP.  2) How can I tell the story I want to tell, and shoehorn BP into it?  (it doesn't matter if I totally decimate the hero doing it as long as I can tell my story.)

Tru Tru....
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 18, 2018, 10:24:52 am
It's why i personally never cared as much for the whole Namor thing.

I mean yes, he needs to die off principle. [ironically marvel writers always side step the fact that Emma Frost is just as culpable for that flood sh*t]

But i always viewed that sh*t as a distraction from the real problematic character in the mytho that needed to be addressed: Dr. Doom.

Pretty much one of those puppets on a string "lets distract the black guy with the asian so that the white racist is off the hook..."

Nah fukk that, i ain't forget

I ain't forget Emma Frost thot ass either

Thats bc all these writers dintvwant to follow through with what comes natural after deconstruction... which is "this us why the hero is the hero"

Look superior spider man... after all thatvstuff, it came down to ock admitting peter was better than him.

Secret wars... doom at the end admitted reed could have done it better. Tchallas natural ending should have been beheading namor and proxima to avenge his sister and people... but no one really cares about him.

After tchalla lost the bp title,  the natural ending was him rising up better than other, to prove that he was the black panther and best king of all of history.

But naw, too worried about stepping on supporting characters toes??? Y??
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 18, 2018, 11:05:34 am
It's why i personally never cared as much for the whole Namor thing.

I mean yes, he needs to die off principle. [ironically marvel writers always side step the fact that Emma Frost is just as culpable for that flood sh*t]

But i always viewed that sh*t as a distraction from the real problematic character in the mytho that needed to be addressed: Dr. Doom.

Pretty much one of those puppets on a string "lets distract the black guy with the asian so that the white racist is off the hook..."

Nah fukk that, i ain't forget

I ain't forget Emma Frost thot ass either

Thats bc all these writers dintvwant to follow through with what comes natural after deconstruction... which is "this us why the hero is the hero"

Look superior spider man... after all thatvstuff, it came down to ock admitting peter was better than him.

Secret wars... doom at the end admitted reed could have done it better. Tchallas natural ending should have been beheading namor and proxima to avenge his sister and people... but no one really cares about him.

After tchalla lost the bp title,  the natural ending was him rising up better than other, to prove that he was the black panther and best king of all of history.

But naw, too worried about stepping on supporting characters toes??? Y??

Nah, BP's natural ending should have been conquering Latveria and a broken frustratex Doom admitting T'Challa would be a better King and ruler.

Then T'Challa says I don't want the trouble of ruling your sh*t country.  Namor and Emma can die or get seriously humbled along the way.  The end.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Hypestyle on March 18, 2018, 11:12:43 am
hmm... what about cameos from the 1970s era Jack Kirby characters from the strip?  Heh-heh....
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 18, 2018, 11:25:41 am
It's why i personally never cared as much for the whole Namor thing.

I mean yes, he needs to die off principle. [ironically marvel writers always side step the fact that Emma Frost is just as culpable for that flood sh*t]

But i always viewed that sh*t as a distraction from the real problematic character in the mytho that needed to be addressed: Dr. Doom.

Pretty much one of those puppets on a string "lets distract the black guy with the asian so that the white racist is off the hook..."

Nah fukk that, i ain't forget

I ain't forget Emma Frost thot ass either

We need a writer like Evan to just come in and not give a flying f*ck and exact revenge. Claw Dooms face, punk Emma, and Namor, and establish why he is the greatest Black panther ever. Mix Priest and Hudlins origins. Wakanda has always been advanced, despite having spies in other nations, when T'Chaka was killed, they realized the rest of the world was only maybe a decade behind them in terms of advancement. From there, T'Challa sets forward to bring Wakanda back to THE beacon as the Pinnacle of humanities potential and by the time he becomes BP he has furthered Wakandan advancement 30-50 years ahead of the rest of the World,  establish Wakanda as a Global threat by itself without any other allies Black to the future part 1& 2 are realistic paths of Wakanda ever decided to go that route. Tchalla CHOOSES not to because he sees the potential for the rest of the world. T'Chaka saw the world as teenagers thinking they are more mature then they actually are, and Tchalla sees the world as that untapped potential needing the right guidance to greatness..

This is what I want, that is what I think Evans can do, and that is the writer we need
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 18, 2018, 11:55:50 am
It's why i personally never cared as much for the whole Namor thing.

I mean yes, he needs to die off principle. [ironically marvel writers always side step the fact that Emma Frost is just as culpable for that flood sh*t]

But i always viewed that sh*t as a distraction from the real problematic character in the mytho that needed to be addressed: Dr. Doom.

Pretty much one of those puppets on a string "lets distract the black guy with the asian so that the white racist is off the hook..."

Nah fukk that, i ain't forget

I ain't forget Emma Frost thot ass either

Thats bc all these writers dintvwant to follow through with what comes natural after deconstruction... which is "this us why the hero is the hero"

Look superior spider man... after all thatvstuff, it came down to ock admitting peter was better than him.

Secret wars... doom at the end admitted reed could have done it better. Tchallas natural ending should have been beheading namor and proxima to avenge his sister and people... but no one really cares about him.

After tchalla lost the bp title,  the natural ending was him rising up better than other, to prove that he was the black panther and best king of all of history.

But naw, too worried about stepping on supporting characters toes??? Y??

Nah, BP's natural ending should have been conquering Latveria and a broken frustratex Doom admitting T'Challa would be a better King and ruler.

Then T'Challa says I don't want the trouble of ruling your sh*t country.  Namor and Emma can die or get seriously humbled along the way.  The end.

In two years of coates solo, we havent even gotten a solo win agsinst anyone.

He even needed help to defeat the fenris.

Let that sink in.

Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 18, 2018, 12:37:32 pm
It's why i personally never cared as much for the whole Namor thing.

I mean yes, he needs to die off principle. [ironically marvel writers always side step the fact that Emma Frost is just as culpable for that flood sh*t]

But i always viewed that sh*t as a distraction from the real problematic character in the mytho that needed to be addressed: Dr. Doom.

Pretty much one of those puppets on a string "lets distract the black guy with the asian so that the white racist is off the hook..."

Nah fukk that, i ain't forget

I ain't forget Emma Frost thot ass either

Thats bc all these writers dintvwant to follow through with what comes natural after deconstruction... which is "this us why the hero is the hero"

Look superior spider man... after all thatvstuff, it came down to ock admitting peter was better than him.

Secret wars... doom at the end admitted reed could have done it better. Tchallas natural ending should have been beheading namor and proxima to avenge his sister and people... but no one really cares about him.

After tchalla lost the bp title,  the natural ending was him rising up better than other, to prove that he was the black panther and best king of all of history.

But naw, too worried about stepping on supporting characters toes??? Y??

Nah, BP's natural ending should have been conquering Latveria and a broken frustratex Doom admitting T'Challa would be a better King and ruler.

Then T'Challa says I don't want the trouble of ruling your sh*t country.  Namor and Emma can die or get seriously humbled along the way.  The end.

In two years of coates solo, we havent even gotten a solo win agsinst anyone.

He even needed help to defeat the fenris.

Let that sink in.

Exactly, when you ask people who are a fan of Coates run, claiming he has done all this great stuff for Tchalla, ask then what major feat had he given him.. you know there response 90% of the time? "He turned the MA into allies" to which my response is "So he turned former allies who turned into Villains back into allies by Giving them everything they wanted, a stern talking to and exoneration of their crimes despite Killing legion's (Coates mouthpiece words)  siding with known terrorists, and NOT helping take down said terrorists...."

Every "feat" in coatesverse requires some outside help. 95% of them not even making Sense (rescuing Shuri rotk ghost army, taking on the fenris, taking on Stane, literally every feat he has had some help to some degree) I think people like this version Because he is weak as sh*t and makes him more "Safe" for their taste and not making them feel threatened like Hudlin's Tchalla
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 18, 2018, 12:47:09 pm
It's why i personally never cared as much for the whole Namor thing.

I mean yes, he needs to die off principle. [ironically marvel writers always side step the fact that Emma Frost is just as culpable for that flood sh*t]

But i always viewed that sh*t as a distraction from the real problematic character in the mytho that needed to be addressed: Dr. Doom.

Pretty much one of those puppets on a string "lets distract the black guy with the asian so that the white racist is off the hook..."

Nah fukk that, i ain't forget

I ain't forget Emma Frost thot ass either

Thats bc all these writers dintvwant to follow through with what comes natural after deconstruction... which is "this us why the hero is the hero"

Look superior spider man... after all thatvstuff, it came down to ock admitting peter was better than him.

Secret wars... doom at the end admitted reed could have done it better. Tchallas natural ending should have been beheading namor and proxima to avenge his sister and people... but no one really cares about him.

After tchalla lost the bp title,  the natural ending was him rising up better than other, to prove that he was the black panther and best king of all of history.

But naw, too worried about stepping on supporting characters toes??? Y??

Nah, BP's natural ending should have been conquering Latveria and a broken frustratex Doom admitting T'Challa would be a better King and ruler.

Then T'Challa says I don't want the trouble of ruling your sh*t country.  Namor and Emma can die or get seriously humbled along the way.  The end.

In two years of coates solo, we havent even gotten a solo win agsinst anyone.

He even needed help to defeat the fenris.

Let that sink in.

This anti-black male masculinity is a very toxic trend. 

Evans aside, why is it that a hood dude from compton who grew up playing football is the only one who can make writing black panther great look so easy?

I'm not saying there needs to be a testosterone count requirement but jeeeeez

There was a collider youtube video a few days ago about what BP 2 should be about.. it had 2 white guys (one of them Shnepp, who always reminds us he helped Hudlin produce the BP cartoon) and 2 black girls.  And one of the black girls straight up said she'd love to see

1. Shuri get trained to fight
2. Shuri/BP have conflict over being BP
3. Namor coming through and flooding Wakanda
4. Namor leaving T'Challa comatose
5. Shuri leaving the tech alone to become the BP

It was hilarious and sad at the same time that the two white guys, when it was their turn to say what they'd like to see, each had to lowkey tell her that they aren't tryna see that sh*t and instead would like to see T'Challa's evolution as king continue.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Battle on March 18, 2018, 12:54:23 pm




There was a collider youtube video a few days ago about what BP 2 should be about.. it had 2 white guys (one of them Shnepp, who always reminds us he helped Hudlin produce the BP cartoon) and...




Yeah, well...

I was the one who pitched and convinced an animated version of Black Panther to Mr. Hudlin first.  8)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 18, 2018, 12:55:49 pm
It's like some of these dummy youtube nerds saw all the great work Coogler did in avoiding black male/female dysfunction, creating harmony while giving everyone distinct roles that don't step on each others toes... and yet the first thing they want is black male/female dysfunction between the siblings, f*cking up Wakanda, and leaving BP comatose so someone else can take over.... lmao...  ::)

Pretty much everything that made the mytho a billion, let's go ahead and do the opposite of that
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: KIP LEWIS on March 18, 2018, 01:15:29 pm



Every "feat" in coatesverse requires some outside help. 95% of them not even making Sense (rescuing Shuri rotk ghost army, taking on the fenris, taking on Stane, literally every feat he has had some help to some degree) I think people like this version Because he is weak as sh*t and makes him more "Safe" for their taste and not making them feel threatened like  Hudlin's Tchalla[/b]

Makes you wonder if Cap is going to get the same treatment or will his Cap be strong, confident and in the right?  If it's the later, that speaks volumes.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 18, 2018, 01:22:19 pm



Every "feat" in coatesverse requires some outside help. 95% of them not even making Sense (rescuing Shuri rotk ghost army, taking on the fenris, taking on Stane, literally every feat he has had some help to some degree) I think people like this version Because he is weak as sh*t and makes him more "Safe" for their taste and not making them feel threatened like  Hudlin's Tchalla[/b]

Makes you wonder if Cap is going to get the same treatment or will his Cap be strong, confident and in the right?  If it's the later, that speaks volumes.

I was thinking the same thing.  Is he gon give Steve that same energy [or lack thereof] he gives T'Challa? Anti white male fantasy wish-fulfillment??

Hmmm...
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 18, 2018, 01:27:40 pm
White people know how to push a hero.

Black people too busy trying to split Tchalla's pie 64 ways.

f*ck that sh*t. That is the kings pie... everyone else can have what's leftover after he's full.

Tchalla fans need to be selfish
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 18, 2018, 01:30:06 pm



Every "feat" in coatesverse requires some outside help. 95% of them not even making Sense (rescuing Shuri rotk ghost army, taking on the fenris, taking on Stane, literally every feat he has had some help to some degree) I think people like this version Because he is weak as sh*t and makes him more "Safe" for their taste and not making them feel threatened like  Hudlin's Tchalla[/b]

Makes you wonder if Cap is going to get the same treatment or will his Cap be strong, confident and in the right?  If it's the later, that speaks volumes.

I was thinking the same thing.  Is he gon give Steve that same energy [or lack thereof] he gives T'Challa? Anti white male fantasy wish-fulfillment??

Hmmm...

Sharon better save the damn day in that book or coates fans have some explaining to do.

We saw the made up ugly side of wakanda... so we are gonna see tge real life ugly side of the USA.... right?

Right?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 18, 2018, 01:35:15 pm
White people know how to push a hero.

Black people too busy trying to split Tchalla's pie 64 ways.

f*ck that sh*t. That is the kings pie... everyone else can have what's leftover after he's full.

Tchalla fans need to be selfish

That's been lowkey annoying to see, esp among some of the black female youtube nerds [and female comic writers].

Feels kinda back handed... like this mytho about a black male went out of it's way to show the type of inclusion and empowerment not seen ANYWHERE else in this industry... and the response is to try and kick the titular male character outta there. lmao

Now granted, this is the nerd fandom and not the greater population.  But it's annoying when you want to find good nerd fandom discussion but it's all the same dumb talking points "oh do you think storm will be in the next movie?"  "will shuri be BP?"  "will they have okoye be gay for ayo?"

I'm just like.. really?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Vic Vega on March 18, 2018, 02:31:45 pm
My biggest concern about the sequel is that heel turning M'baku isn't an option at all now.

So we are probably looking at Achebe as the next villain. They could easily get a version of him to work in the MCU.

How can Achebe be made into a remotely threatening baddie is another matter.

Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 18, 2018, 02:42:00 pm
 its sad how some black folks have gotten o used to seeing you dysfunction and a deflated sbd defeated afro, that the minute  they see something that breaksthe mold, proves Hollywood is full of sh*t when it comes to Blacks and the movie is becoming a cultural movement, their first steps are to go backwards and move towards all the sh*t the movie went on to break down..

For me the first half hour didn't have me in tears (though I can definitely see why some were moved to tears) but dammit of I didn't have a massive swell in pride for my heritage and seeing African culture and beauty wrapped into a unique and powerful showing. O legit had chills when T'Challa was walking out the Royal talon Bd people were chanting his name
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Battle on March 18, 2018, 04:15:39 pm
My biggest concern about the sequel is that heel turning M'baku isn't an option at all now.

So we are probably looking at Achebe as the next villain. They could easily get a version of him to work in the MCU.

How can Achebe be made into a remotely threatening baddie is another matter.



The scene in 'Black Panther' where T'Chaka visits one of his covert Wakandan agents at a  drug spot on the city streets of America is such ripe, fertile ground for a sequel to write from.

So many ideas, concepts and possibilities can be launched just from that one fantastic scene alone.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: 4sake on March 18, 2018, 04:26:41 pm
It's why i personally never cared as much for the whole Namor thing.

I mean yes, he needs to die off principle. [ironically marvel writers always side step the fact that Emma Frost is just as culpable for that flood sh*t]

But i always viewed that sh*t as a distraction from the real problematic character in the mytho that needed to be addressed: Dr. Doom.

Pretty much one of those puppets on a string "lets distract the black guy with the asian so that the white racist is off the hook..."

Nah fukk that, i ain't forget

I ain't forget Emma Frost thot ass either

Thats bc all these writers dintvwant to follow through with what comes natural after deconstruction... which is "this us why the hero is the hero"

Look superior spider man... after all thatvstuff, it came down to ock admitting peter was better than him.

Secret wars... doom at the end admitted reed could have done it better. Tchallas natural ending should have been beheading namor and proxima to avenge his sister and people... but no one really cares about him.

After tchalla lost the bp title,  the natural ending was him rising up better than other, to prove that he was the black panther and best king of all of history.

But naw, too worried about stepping on supporting characters toes??? Y??

Nah, BP's natural ending should have been conquering Latveria and a broken frustratex Doom admitting T'Challa would be a better King and ruler.

Then T'Challa says I don't want the trouble of ruling your sh*t country.  Namor and Emma can die or get seriously humbled along the way.  The end.

In two years of coates solo, we havent even gotten a solo win agsinst anyone.

He even needed help to defeat the fenris.

Let that sink in.

This anti-black male masculinity is a very toxic trend. 

Evans aside, why is it that a hood dude from compton who grew up playing football is the only one who can make writing black panther great look so easy?

I'm not saying there needs to be a testosterone count requirement but jeeeeez

There was a collider youtube video a few days ago about what BP 2 should be about.. it had 2 white guys (one of them Shnepp, who always reminds us he helped Hudlin produce the BP cartoon) and 2 black girls.  And one of the black girls straight up said she'd love to see

1. Shuri get trained to fight
2. Shuri/BP have conflict over being BP
3. Namor coming through and flooding Wakanda
4. Namor leaving T'Challa comatose
5. Shuri leaving the tech alone to become the BP

It was hilarious and sad at the same time that the two white guys, when it was their turn to say what they'd like to see, each had to lowkey tell her that they aren't tryna see that sh*t and instead would like to see T'Challa's evolution as king continue.

To be blunt we still have long way to go as a fanbase (BP fans, Black comic fans & etc)

By far the the worst sh*t-ideas I've seen online for BP sequel ideas have came from BP comics fans..

I expected the usual stuff like let's make Shuri BP after one movie, Let's give the DM a spinoff movie, lets bring O in asap & etc..



But ish like this :

Let's bring random ass White Bro, because this franchise need super powered white character for them to rute for.

Let's give Ross a LG role in the next one

Let's have BP some how accidentally responsible for the death of Nakia parents to have turn Malice

Let's have BP threatened or subjugate/suppress Q'Noma marsh tribe - to make Nakia turn Malice

Let's have BP subjugate/suppress M'Baku & Jabari Tribe

Let's have Shuri & Bucky date

Let kill off or severely injure Queen Mom or Shuri or Nakia to push BP to be more CJP-like

Let's bring in S'Yan make him a villain & have him pissed at BP for SKM death & have em fight..

Let bring in Hunter & make him T'Chaka biological half white son.

Let bring in K.Cole & make him T'Chaka biological son

Let bring in Jakarra to make T'Chaka look even more

To think this type is of ish have to be BP comic fan..

O fans are lazy they only care about O they no nothing of Nakia other than she betrayed BP.. they don't Kno how or why or that movie Nakia is base on other BP character. they don't know what village she from & to lazy to look it up lol

Non comic book ( black folks) anit checking for random white Bros, don't want see made T'Chaka or T'Challa look worse or Shuri/QM killed/hurt, they not checking for random ass disfigured half Bros, wanting more Ross ( most seemed to want less of him  or him not not at all)..

Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 18, 2018, 04:46:36 pm
New non black fans have embraced black panther and expect him pushed as a franchise just as hard as cap, thor, im, and the others

Too many Black "fans" want all these ridiculous scenario where mcu tchalla ends up like coates verse
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 18, 2018, 05:17:12 pm
New non black fans have embraced black panther and expect him pushed as a franchise just as hard as cap, thor, im, and the others

Too many Black "fans" want all these ridiculous scenario where mcu tchalla ends up like coates verse

Yep and Coatesverse is a unfans/ white supremacists wet dream
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 18, 2018, 05:33:06 pm
It's why i personally never cared as much for the whole Namor thing.

I mean yes, he needs to die off principle. [ironically marvel writers always side step the fact that Emma Frost is just as culpable for that flood sh*t]

But i always viewed that sh*t as a distraction from the real problematic character in the mytho that needed to be addressed: Dr. Doom.

Pretty much one of those puppets on a string "lets distract the black guy with the asian so that the white racist is off the hook..."

Nah fukk that, i ain't forget

I ain't forget Emma Frost thot ass either

Thats bc all these writers dintvwant to follow through with what comes natural after deconstruction... which is "this us why the hero is the hero"

Look superior spider man... after all thatvstuff, it came down to ock admitting peter was better than him.

Secret wars... doom at the end admitted reed could have done it better. Tchallas natural ending should have been beheading namor and proxima to avenge his sister and people... but no one really cares about him.

After tchalla lost the bp title,  the natural ending was him rising up better than other, to prove that he was the black panther and best king of all of history.

But naw, too worried about stepping on supporting characters toes??? Y??

Nah, BP's natural ending should have been conquering Latveria and a broken frustratex Doom admitting T'Challa would be a better King and ruler.

Then T'Challa says I don't want the trouble of ruling your sh*t country.  Namor and Emma can die or get seriously humbled along the way.  The end.

In two years of coates solo, we havent even gotten a solo win agsinst anyone.

He even needed help to defeat the fenris.

Let that sink in.

This anti-black male masculinity is a very toxic trend. 

Evans aside, why is it that a hood dude from compton who grew up playing football is the only one who can make writing black panther great look so easy?

I'm not saying there needs to be a testosterone count requirement but jeeeeez

There was a collider youtube video a few days ago about what BP 2 should be about.. it had 2 white guys (one of them Shnepp, who always reminds us he helped Hudlin produce the BP cartoon) and 2 black girls.  And one of the black girls straight up said she'd love to see

1. Shuri get trained to fight
2. Shuri/BP have conflict over being BP
3. Namor coming through and flooding Wakanda
4. Namor leaving T'Challa comatose
5. Shuri leaving the tech alone to become the BP

It was hilarious and sad at the same time that the two white guys, when it was their turn to say what they'd like to see, each had to lowkey tell her that they aren't tryna see that sh*t and instead would like to see T'Challa's evolution as king continue.

To be blunt we still have long way to go as a fanbase (BP fans, Black comic fans & etc)

By far the the worst sh*t-ideas I've seen online for BP sequel ideas have came from BP comics fans..

I expected the usual stuff like let's make Shuri BP after one movie, Let's give the DM a spinoff movie, lets bring O in asap & etc..



But ish like this :

Let's bring random ass White Bro, because this franchise need super powered white character for them to rute for.

Let's give Ross a LG role in the next one

Let's have BP some how accidentally responsible for the death of Nakia parents to have turn Malice

Let's have BP threatened or subjugate/suppress Q'Noma marsh tribe - to make Nakia turn Malice

Let's have BP subjugate/suppress M'Baku & Jabari Tribe

Let's have Shuri & Bucky date

Let kill off or severely injure Queen Mom or Shuri or Nakia to push BP to be more CJP-like

Let's bring in S'Yan make him a villain & have him pissed at BP for SKM death & have em fight..

Let bring in Hunter & make him T'Chaka biological half white son.

Let bring in K.Cole & make him T'Chaka biological son

Let bring in Jakarra to make T'Chaka look even more

To think this type is of ish have to be BP comic fan..

O fans are lazy they only care about O they no nothing of Nakia other than she betrayed BP.. they don't Kno how or why or that movie Nakia is base on other BP character. they don't know what village she from & to lazy to look it up lol

Non comic book ( black folks) anit checking for random white Bros, don't want see made T'Chaka or T'Challa look worse or Shuri/QM killed/hurt, they not checking for random ass disfigured half Bros, wanting more Ross ( most seemed to want less of him  or him not not at all)..

New non black fans have embraced black panther and expect him pushed as a franchise just as hard as cap, thor, im, and the others

Too many Black "fans" want all these ridiculous scenario where mcu tchalla ends up like coates verse

+10000

The contrast between black non-comic fans who are completely new to all this, and black comic "fans" has been a bit... alarming.

As thrilled and euphoric as i am about the movie and how it pretty much hit every note i could ever dream of quality, critically and financially... i've been a bit annoyed by the dumbassery of these black comic "fans".

Like i'm all for seeing Shuri interact with Stark but all this have her be Riri [funny how i/we were the ones that first foreshadowed this comparison MONTHS ago] and have her depart from the franchise and essentially hang out with the white people...

... it's like are they f*cking serious?

Or always bringing up Storm when the movie clearly spells out to everyone what the romantic ambitions and pairing are..

Bringing up Okoye's sexuality when the movie clearly spells out to everyone who her romantic pairing is with.

Conversely, it's people like Andre the Nerd [youtuber] who i adore because he's a black folk who doesn't know or pretend to know sh*t about the comics and doesn't care to, so he watches the movie as any regular black folk would and he loves that sh*t as is!  Same as those normal black folks who Chadwick surprised on that Jimmy Fallon show.

They see it simply as a pure black superhero adventure and aren't caught up trying to frame it into TNC's world or any other dumbsh*t.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 18, 2018, 06:13:42 pm
What I was expecting post movie was me being like, "GET OFF MY LAWN I WAS HERE FIRST" hipster thing about the random new people.

Instead I am disgusted by my own people lol.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 18, 2018, 06:52:26 pm
Pre black panther movie:
Dumb Blacks: We want harmony between men and women, not dysfunction, no stereotypes, no white saviors, powerful depictions of Black people and Africa, and Black love and happiness

Post Black panther movie: You know what would be cool is if Shuri and T'Challa were feuding and Shuri takes the BP mantle after Tchalla gets punked and Wakanda gets pwned, and maybe throw in the Ma rising up and becoming their own without the shadow of the throne, and how about Storm making an appearance, just have Nakia become malice. Oh and can Ross get some more shine? Martin Freeman didn't get to do much...

Smmfh
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: mrkareemruiz on March 18, 2018, 07:24:44 pm
If you don't understand racism white supremacy and how it works everything you think you know will just confuse you. Only whites and self-hating blacks want more white people in black panther.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 18, 2018, 07:42:56 pm
What I was expecting post movie was me being like, "GET OFF MY LAWN I WAS HERE FIRST" hipster thing about the random new people.

Instead I am disgusted by my own people lol.


LMAO. Summarizes my thoughts to a T.  These negroes hopeless :facepalm:

Pre black panther movie:
Dumb Blacks: We want harmony between men and women, not dysfunction, no stereotypes, no white saviors, powerful depictions of Black people and Africa, and Black love and happiness

Post Black panther movie: You know what would be cool is if Shuri and T'Challa were feuding and Shuri takes the BP mantle after Tchalla gets punked and Wakanda gets pwned, and maybe throw in the Ma rising up and becoming their own without the shadow of the throne, and how about Storm making an appearance, just have Nakia become malice. Oh and can Ross get some more shine? Martin Freeman didn't get to do much...

Smmfh


LMAO!  I'd make this my signature if not for the word limit!

sh*t, from now on i'm going to copy/paste it in the comments section of any article or youtube with these dummy new "fans" running their mouth.

FLAWLESS summary!
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Battle on March 18, 2018, 07:53:33 pm
If you don't understand racism white supremacy and how it works everything you think you know will just confuse you. Only whites and self-hating blacks want more white people in black panther.



Agree.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: 4sake on March 18, 2018, 08:14:08 pm
If you don't understand racism white supremacy and how it works everything you think you know will just confuse you. Only whites and self-hating blacks want more white people in black panther.

Knowledge...
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: mrkareemruiz on March 18, 2018, 08:56:55 pm
I seen alot of people asking why white marvel fans want Iw to beat BP US box office numbers so bad. It's clearly racism, white racism comes way before marvel films. I wish black people would stop playing around.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 18, 2018, 10:03:08 pm
Part of it is self hate [asking for more white inclusion], however the other part is just pure selfish crabs in a barrel mentality where people after [generously] being given a piece of the pie [in the form of an ensemble cast type movie] turn right around and try to overthrow the whole damn bakery! 

i.e. so focused on having a black female lead that they'd tear up the entire mytho just to find a round-about way to have the black male character replaced.

Completely oblivious [or indifferent] to the dysfunction this causes because they are so focused on their own self-serving agenda.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 18, 2018, 10:14:49 pm
And Black Panther is a movie first and foremost about a black male... that Ryan Coogler and Robert Cole expertly took and shared pieces of the character's pie to empower 3 female characters. 

They easily could've just made BP the everything but they showed benevolence, esp when it came to making Shuri the scientist genius [which was T'Challa's role], making Okoye the general/mid-manager of the Doras [whom T'Challa could've just directly order around himself] and making Nakia his moral center [which T'Challa by default is mr. nobility anyway]...

...but instead they shared the wealth. 
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Battle on March 19, 2018, 03:34:46 am
I seen alot of people asking why white marvel fans want Iw to beat BP US box office numbers so bad. It's clearly racism, white racism comes way before marvel films. I wish black people would stop playing around.



Never argue with 85ers.

Let them remain ignorant with their quips, jibes,  jives & jokes.
I just get a kick out of watching their reaction when you drop some info on them that will help them, and they're so shocked that gives them the impression that is, "...oddly hostile." ;D

All the while, their 'companions' that they fall over for is watching its total disintegration and dive into the depths of depravity, knowing that their descent into the abyss will ultimately be greater than the last fool.



Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 19, 2018, 04:01:16 am
Part of it is self hate [asking for more white inclusion], however the other part is just pure selfish crabs in a barrel mentality where people after [generously] being given a piece of the pie [in the form of an ensemble cast type movie] turn right around and try to overthrow the whole damn bakery! 

i.e. so focused on having a black female lead that they'd tear up the entire mytho just to find a round-about way to have the black male character replaced.

Completely oblivious [or indifferent] to the dysfunction this causes because they are so focused on their own self-serving agenda.

Exactly lol they get to be part of something great that uplifts everyone and they immediately jump to selfishly take over, by any means  necessary even of it ends up destroying the beautiful harmony created and spirals it all back to the same tired racial stereotypes we constantly see over and over again

I seen alot of people asking why white marvel fans want Iw to beat BP US box office numbers so bad. It's clearly racism, white racism comes way before marvel films. I wish black people would stop playing around.



Never argue with 85ers.

Let them remain ignorant with their quips, jibes,  jives & jokes.
I just get a kick out of watching their reaction when you drop some info on them that will help them, and they're so shocked that gives them the impression that is, "...oddly hostile." ;D

All the while, their 'companions' that they fall over for is watching its total disintegration and dive into the depths of depravity, knowing that their descent into the abyss will ultimately be greater than the last fool.





Your cute
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 19, 2018, 04:39:35 am
I seen alot of people asking why white marvel fans want Iw to beat BP US box office numbers so bad. It's clearly racism, white racism comes way before marvel films. I wish black people would stop playing around.

Eh

Is there some white supremacy stuff there? Always.

But, the same fandom reaction that makes us around here happy as hell to see BP crush the box office is the same exact fandom reaction that wants to see IW crush the box office.

Despite the fact none of the fans get a damn dime of that money... it brings you happiness and pride to watch YOUR movie kill sh*t.

For IW... that includes a lot of fans (a LOT of fans) that have been waiting for Thanos to get out of his chair since Avengers. 10 years of movies have been building up to IW and Avengers 4. It really is the end of an era.

It isn't so much "beating Black Panther" it is "beating everything." Black Panther is just near the top of the pile now and will be the top of the pile domestically.. to to be the king, you have to dethrone Black Panther now.

IW fans have been wanting 2B for half a decade. They (well we because im gonna be there Thursday night too) just want validated by a giant box office that it was "worth" it.

It is typical fandom human nature.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 19, 2018, 04:48:02 am
And Black Panther is a movie first and foremost about a black male... that Ryan Coogler and Robert Cole expertly took and shared pieces of the character's pie to empower 3 female characters. 

They easily could've just made BP the everything but they showed benevolence, esp when it came to making Shuri the scientist genius [which was T'Challa's role], making Okoye the general/mid-manager of the Doras [whom T'Challa could've just directly order around himself] and making Nakia his moral center [which T'Challa by default is mr. nobility anyway]...

...but instead they shared the wealth.

I now see why fans of say.... Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, Wolverine, Spider-Man, ect are so damn hostile everytime a legacy situations happen.

They don't want to share the pie in fear the pie will be stolen. They ain't being diplomatic about it. They are downright hostile about it.

I used to think they were being ridiculous because those OG's always come back.

Now I am starting to empathize a little bit lol.



I have always had... disagreements (mostly mild ones) with some Black Panther fans here and at CBR because I always stated I was a Black Panther fanboy... I am not a Wakanda fanboy. I would sacrifice every single bit of the mythos to prop T'challa up. In my mind, the most important thing in the mythos are...

1. T'challa
2. T'challa
3. T'challa
4. Vibranium
5. Wakanda
6. Shuri

Too many Black Panther fans are "Wakanda" fans and are too quick to share T'challa's pie. Black PAnther mytho are a monarchy damnit and T'challa is on the throne. Y'all gotta be selfish. More Kobe. Less Ben simmons
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: mrkareemruiz on March 19, 2018, 05:19:28 am
I seen alot of people asking why white marvel fans want Iw to beat BP US box office numbers so bad. It's clearly racism, white racism comes way before marvel films. I wish black people would stop playing around.

Eh

Is there some white supremacy stuff there? Always.

But, the same fandom reaction that makes us around here happy as hell to see BP crush the box office is the same exact fandom reaction that wants to see IW crush the box office.

Despite the fact none of the fans get a damn dime of that money... it brings you happiness and pride to watch YOUR movie kill sh*t.

For IW... that includes a lot of fans (a LOT of fans) that have been waiting for Thanos to get out of his chair since Avengers. 10 years of movies have been building up to IW and Avengers 4. It really is the end of an era.

It isn't so much "beating Black Panther" it is "beating everything." Black Panther is just near the top of the pile now and will be the top of the pile domestically.. to to be the king, you have to dethrone Black Panther now.

IW fans have been wanting 2B for half a decade. They (well we because im gonna be there Thursday night too) just want validated by a giant box office that it was "worth" it.

It is typical fandom human nature.

Stop Trolling. They clearly want iw to beat bp because they are mad Bp doing so well.  Stop acting like don't understand how white supremacy works. Pig skins don't care how you feel. You people always gotta to be in some place pig skins don't want you to be.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Battle on March 19, 2018, 05:20:11 am


Your cute




There.  Y'see...  ;D


Now, it loves me because it knows I'm spittin' knowledge.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 19, 2018, 05:27:19 am
I seen alot of people asking why white marvel fans want Iw to beat BP US box office numbers so bad. It's clearly racism, white racism comes way before marvel films. I wish black people would stop playing around.

Eh

Is there some white supremacy stuff there? Always.

But, the same fandom reaction that makes us around here happy as hell to see BP crush the box office is the same exact fandom reaction that wants to see IW crush the box office.

Despite the fact none of the fans get a damn dime of that money... it brings you happiness and pride to watch YOUR movie kill sh*t.

For IW... that includes a lot of fans (a LOT of fans) that have been waiting for Thanos to get out of his chair since Avengers. 10 years of movies have been building up to IW and Avengers 4. It really is the end of an era.

It isn't so much "beating Black Panther" it is "beating everything." Black Panther is just near the top of the pile now and will be the top of the pile domestically.. to to be the king, you have to dethrone Black Panther now.

IW fans have been wanting 2B for half a decade. They (well we because im gonna be there Thursday night too) just want validated by a giant box office that it was "worth" it.

It is typical fandom human nature.

Stop Trolling. They clearly want iw to beat bp because they are mad Bp doing so well.  Stop acting like don't understand how white supremacy works. Pig skins don't care how you feel.

Most of "them" have been talking about breaking the 2 Billion mark for years. Years. MCU fans have targeted Avatar for christsake

There was no "beat BP" talk then because no one ever saw BP being a threat. It was all "beat Avengers 1."

BP is now king of the domestic hill, so that is what has to be "beat" now. If BP only made 8 or 900 mil, no one would give a sh*t about it in this regard.

A simple google search pulls up prediction after prediction well before BP was a thing. For example, from december 2017 https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/7jkw42/infinity_war_box_office_predictions/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/7jkw42/infinity_war_box_office_predictions/)


Not every MCU fan is a hood wearing klansman. Yeesh
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: mrkareemruiz on March 19, 2018, 05:31:05 am
I seen alot of people asking why white marvel fans want Iw to beat BP US box office numbers so bad. It's clearly racism, white racism comes way before marvel films. I wish black people would stop playing around.

Eh

Is there some white supremacy stuff there? Always.

But, the same fandom reaction that makes us around here happy as hell to see BP crush the box office is the same exact fandom reaction that wants to see IW crush the box office.

Despite the fact none of the fans get a damn dime of that money... it brings you happiness and pride to watch YOUR movie kill sh*t.

For IW... that includes a lot of fans (a LOT of fans) that have been waiting for Thanos to get out of his chair since Avengers. 10 years of movies have been building up to IW and Avengers 4. It really is the end of an era.

It isn't so much "beating Black Panther" it is "beating everything." Black Panther is just near the top of the pile now and will be the top of the pile domestically.. to to be the king, you have to dethrone Black Panther now.

IW fans have been wanting 2B for half a decade. They (well we because im gonna be there Thursday night too) just want validated by a giant box office that it was "worth" it.

It is typical fandom human nature.

Stop Trolling. They clearly want iw to beat bp because they are mad Bp doing so well.  Stop acting like don't understand how white supremacy works. Pig skins don't care how you feel.

Most of "them" have been talking about breaking the 2 Billion mark for years. Years. MCU fans have targeted Avatar for christsake

There was no "beat BP" talk then because no one ever saw BP being a threat. It was all "beat Avengers 1."

BP is now king of the domestic hill, so that is what has to be "beat" now. If BP only made 8 or 900 mil, no one would give a sh*t about it in this regard.

A simple google search pulls up prediction after prediction well before BP was a thing. For example, from december 2017 https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/7jkw42/infinity_war_box_office_predictions/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/7jkw42/infinity_war_box_office_predictions/)


Not every MCU fan is a hood wearing klansman. Yeesh

Most pig skins are "klansmans". They are the ones that are smiling in your face. They don't want you around. It's called acting. You are trying a little to hard to defend people who don't like you .odd
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 19, 2018, 08:15:10 am


Your cute




There.  Y'see...  ;D


Now, it loves me because it knows I'm spittin' knowledge.

Get over yourself. I know who the true BP fans are here, and BoG is an OG
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 19, 2018, 08:17:33 am
I seen alot of people asking why white marvel fans want Iw to beat BP US box office numbers so bad. It's clearly racism, white racism comes way before marvel films. I wish black people would stop playing around.

Eh

Is there some white supremacy stuff there? Always.

But, the same fandom reaction that makes us around here happy as hell to see BP crush the box office is the same exact fandom reaction that wants to see IW crush the box office.

Despite the fact none of the fans get a damn dime of that money... it brings you happiness and pride to watch YOUR movie kill sh*t.

For IW... that includes a lot of fans (a LOT of fans) that have been waiting for Thanos to get out of his chair since Avengers. 10 years of movies have been building up to IW and Avengers 4. It really is the end of an era.

It isn't so much "beating Black Panther" it is "beating everything." Black Panther is just near the top of the pile now and will be the top of the pile domestically.. to to be the king, you have to dethrone Black Panther now.

IW fans have been wanting 2B for half a decade. They (well we because im gonna be there Thursday night too) just want validated by a giant box office that it was "worth" it.

It is typical fandom human nature.

Stop Trolling. They clearly want iw to beat bp because they are mad Bp doing so well.  Stop acting like don't understand how white supremacy works. Pig skins don't care how you feel.

Most of "them" have been talking about breaking the 2 Billion mark for years. Years. MCU fans have targeted Avatar for christsake

There was no "beat BP" talk then because no one ever saw BP being a threat. It was all "beat Avengers 1."

BP is now king of the domestic hill, so that is what has to be "beat" now. If BP only made 8 or 900 mil, no one would give a sh*t about it in this regard.

A simple google search pulls up prediction after prediction well before BP was a thing. For example, from december 2017 https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/7jkw42/infinity_war_box_office_predictions/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/7jkw42/infinity_war_box_office_predictions/)


Not every MCU fan is a hood wearing klansman. Yeesh

Most pig skins are "klansmans". They are the ones that are smiling in your face. They don't want you around. It's called acting. You are trying a little to hard to defend people who don't like you .odd

Cool your jets Dude, BP it bringing unity and building Bridges yet some (even here on the HEF) for some reason want to put up barrier's
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Mortal Man on March 19, 2018, 09:00:56 am
And Black Panther is a movie first and foremost about a black male... that Ryan Coogler and Robert Cole expertly took and shared pieces of the character's pie to empower 3 female characters. 

They easily could've just made BP the everything but they showed benevolence, esp when it came to making Shuri the scientist genius [which was T'Challa's role], making Okoye the general/mid-manager of the Doras [whom T'Challa could've just directly order around himself] and making Nakia his moral center [which T'Challa by default is mr. nobility anyway]...

...but instead they shared the wealth.

I now see why fans of say.... Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, Wolverine, Spider-Man, ect are so damn hostile everytime a legacy situations happen.

They don't want to share the pie in fear the pie will be stolen. They ain't being diplomatic about it. They are downright hostile about it.

I used to think they were being ridiculous because those OG's always come back.

Now I am starting to empathize a little bit lol.



I have always had... disagreements (mostly mild ones) with some Black Panther fans here and at CBR because I always stated I was a Black Panther fanboy... I am not a Wakanda fanboy. I would sacrifice every single bit of the mythos to prop T'challa up. In my mind, the most important thing in the mythos are...


1. T'challa
2. T'challa
3. T'challa
4. Vibranium
5. Wakanda
6. Shuri

Too many Black Panther fans are "Wakanda" fans and are too quick to share T'challa's pie. Black PAnther mytho are a monarchy damnit and T'challa is on the throne. Y'all gotta be selfish. More Kobe. Less Ben simmons

I remember those conversations lol.  Hell, take your priority list and cross out Shuri, and you essentially have my list. [never cared for her comic iteration... still don't... but her movie version is the most adorable thing ever, so yea]

We've been talking about it for years tho: be wariy "fans" who don't give a sh*t about T'Challa but want to hop on his back and use his spotlight to push their own agenda.

I had to always preface it by saying "i love/understand/empathize with our black women, but..." so to make sure i didn't come across as a Wakandan male in a TNC book...

...but i'll be damned if everything we projected years ago in those cbr days hasn't come to fruition. 
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 19, 2018, 09:19:14 am
Quote
Most pig skins are "klansmans". They are the ones that are smiling in your face. They don't want you around. It's called acting.


And with that, between kareem and battle's constant blatant racist ass comments, I'm out. You two ain't no better than 4chan, it's just coming from the opposite end. Actually, you are worse because at least 4channers read comics. You don't add anything to discussion. I don't even think you read BP comics. It wouldn't' surprise me if you didn't even see the movie. I know one of you didn't even bother to see civil war. But you are "OG" despite you haven't benefited the BP franchise since 2010.

Y'all don't even add anything intelligent to race discussions but "tHe WhItE pEoPlE aRe Da EvIlEsT"

Its just "white people evil yo all white people so yo black self hate f*ck white people 85er pigskins" blah blah blah blah. same sh*t every post.

No wonder people like BoG feel like an outsider despite the fact he actually has read the comics and is an actual fan. No wonder this forum was effectively dead until a mass migration happened from CBR. And at this pace, once IW comes and goes and its another 3 year wait til BPII, it'll likely be effectively dead again.

Seriously, f*ck y'all racist ass.

The cool people... y'all are cool. I imagine I'll see yall eventually elsewhere, somewhere. I hope Bast's blesses John Stewart. But there is too much toxic race stuff in the real world to come to a niche comic book forum just to see and deal with more of it. Ain't worth it to me.


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Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: mrkareemruiz on March 19, 2018, 09:45:16 am
Quote
Most pig skins are "klansmans". They are the ones that are smiling in your face. They don't want you around. It's called acting.


And with that, between kareem and battle's constant blatant racist ass comments, I'm out. You two ain't no better than 4chan, it's just coming from the opposite end. Actually, you are worse because at least 4channers read comics. You don't add anything to discussion. I don't even think you read BP comics. It wouldn't' surprise me if you didn't even see the movie. I know one of you didn't even bother to see civil war. But you are "OG" despite you haven't benefited the BP franchise since 2010.

Y'all don't even add anything intelligent to race discussions but "tHe WhItE pEoPlE aRe Da EvIlEsT"

Its just "white people evil yo all white people so yo black self hate f*ck white people 85er pigskins" blah blah blah blah. same sh*t every post.

No wonder people like BoG feel like an outsider despite the fact he actually has read the comics and is an actual fan. No wonder this forum was effectively dead until a mass migration happened from CBR. And at this pace, once IW comes and goes and its another 3 year wait til BPII, it'll likely be effectively dead again.

Seriously, f*ck y'all racist ass.

The cool people... y'all are cool. I imagine I'll see yall eventually elsewhere, somewhere. I hope Bast's blesses John Stewart. But there is too much toxic race stuff in the real world to come to a niche comic book forum just to see and deal with more of it. Ain't worth it to me.


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Black people can't be racist. Blacks have no power to make people do anything.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 19, 2018, 10:17:04 am
Quote
Most pig skins are "klansmans". They are the ones that are smiling in your face. They don't want you around. It's called acting.


And with that, between kareem and battle's constant blatant racist ass comments, I'm out. You two ain't no better than 4chan, it's just coming from the opposite end. Actually, you are worse because at least 4channers read comics. You don't add anything to discussion. I don't even think you read BP comics. It wouldn't' surprise me if you didn't even see the movie. I know one of you didn't even bother to see civil war. But you are "OG" despite you haven't benefited the BP franchise since 2010.

Y'all don't even add anything intelligent to race discussions but "tHe WhItE pEoPlE aRe Da EvIlEsT"

Its just "white people evil yo all white people so yo black self hate f*ck white people 85er pigskins" blah blah blah blah. same sh*t every post.

No wonder people like BoG feel like an outsider despite the fact he actually has read the comics and is an actual fan. No wonder this forum was effectively dead until a mass migration happened from CBR. And at this pace, once IW comes and goes and its another 3 year wait til BPII, it'll likely be effectively dead again.

Seriously, f*ck y'all racist ass.

The cool people... y'all are cool. I imagine I'll see yall eventually elsewhere, somewhere. I hope Bast's blesses John Stewart. But there is too much toxic race stuff in the real world to come to a niche comic book forum just to see and deal with more of it. Ain't worth it to me.


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Yo for real MoS don't let these fake ass fans drive you out of the HEF. Dealt with too much sh*t in CBR for you to bounce out of the HEF. Ignore their dumbasses. We got MM cville sal, S.I Ture, 4sake, BW, and others who are real fans. There are Those here who enjoy you contributions and would hate to have two nobody wannabe hoteps. All they want to do  is break up the HEF with their ignorance. Ignore the fools, the HEF is the forum to be at to discuss all things BP with the realist of the real.

Don't forget what you told BoG
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: APEXABYSS on March 19, 2018, 10:30:07 pm




There was a collider youtube video a few days ago about what BP 2 should be about.. it had 2 white guys (one of them Shnepp, who always reminds us he helped Hudlin produce the BP cartoon) and...




Yeah, well...

I was the one who pitched and convinced an animated version of Black Panther to Mr. Hudlin first.  8)

please, Battle, continue...

BP Fandom? I donít think people get it! Iíll yell at the coaches, owners, players & other fans. real fans care. me? I just want the best for our team. even if I have to do it. ideas? I got my own... not waiting for MFs to figure it out.  oh snap! lost my Wakandan green-card! High-ratings BP from now on. Blah, blah, blah, deleting browser history. Damn you nerds! 

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Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: APEXABYSS on March 19, 2018, 10:33:21 pm
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we have loyalists?

loyal to who? What?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Battle on March 19, 2018, 11:41:48 pm


please, Battle, continue...




Good to see you in top form, APEXABYSS.   :)

You blowin' M/Fers away with your sketches & drawings or what?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: APEXABYSS on March 20, 2018, 05:33:40 pm


please, Battle, continue...




Good to see you in top form, APEXABYSS.   :)

You blowin' M/Fers away with your sketches & drawings or what?

thanks...
Oh yeah, Iím not playiní! the games are over. the WWO vision proves I was right about BP! Iíve gone over the (Billion $) parallels- king loses/ spotlight on dora general/ costume designs/ weaponry/ tech. i did dat! before the comic & film! A steady contribution to our hero. Thereís more where that came from! Next level! dominant! Whoís wit it?

i have no hesitation on askiní for opportunities to pitch!
 
How bout it? You gotta tell the story. Címon, please give us some insight on how you did dat? Can we pitch again?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Battle on March 20, 2018, 07:31:00 pm


i have no hesitation on askiní for opportunities to pitch!
 
How bout it? You gotta tell the story. Címon, please give us some insight on how you did dat? Can we pitch again?



I pitch everyday to whomever is paying attention.

In fact, I'm pitchin' to you right now. :)
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: 4sake on March 21, 2018, 03:40:03 pm
And Black Panther is a movie first and foremost about a black male... that Ryan Coogler and Robert Cole expertly took and shared pieces of the character's pie to empower 3 female characters. 

They easily could've just made BP the everything but they showed benevolence, esp when it came to making Shuri the scientist genius [which was T'Challa's role], making Okoye the general/mid-manager of the Doras [whom T'Challa could've just directly order around himself] and making Nakia his moral center [which T'Challa by default is mr. nobility anyway]...

...but instead they shared the wealth.

I now see why fans of say.... Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, Wolverine, Spider-Man, ect are so damn hostile everytime a legacy situations happen.

They don't want to share the pie in fear the pie will be stolen. They ain't being diplomatic about it. They are downright hostile about it.

I used to think they were being ridiculous because those OG's always come back.

Now I am starting to empathize a little bit lol.



I have always had... disagreements (mostly mild ones) with some Black Panther fans here and at CBR because I always stated I was a Black Panther fanboy... I am not a Wakanda fanboy. I would sacrifice every single bit of the mythos to prop T'challa up. In my mind, the most important thing in the mythos are...

1. T'challa
2. T'challa
3. T'challa
4. Vibranium
5. Wakanda
6. Shuri

Too many Black Panther fans are "Wakanda" fans and are too quick to share T'challa's pie. Black PAnther mytho are a monarchy damnit and T'challa is on the throne. Y'all gotta be selfish. More Kobe. Less Ben simmons

And most of them weren't too naive for their own good I would maybe feel bad for them, but for Marvel will never truly or completely replace the group of characters that you name up there on a long-term basis at most two to five year intervals..

Also unlike DC Marvel is usually aggressively transparent but what they're doing and you'll even go and if one of these processes..

Process one

Step 1 : Steve or Banner or etc is selling a lot lower are we getting less orders then we usually get..

Step 2 time to either sideline them or kill them off to make retailers or readers or such a mess them again..

Step 3 Kill em sideline  them or whatever

Step for replace them with I knew the critic character character from The Supporting Cast or a random ass character

5 . Stay at 5 replace main character either cells about the same and some or some cases more then what the original version was selling.

6. Marvel plant seeds are they going to bring the character back

7. Waste of money many series about brain character back or event

8. Original characters back with their own series and character that replace them also has their own

9. See how long that can keep going..

Process 2

Let's put Superstar creator Or well established that we like on a title or character that they probably really have little interest in riding but you know retailers love them.

Step 2 writer writes the character rights around them for 8 to 12 issues or so.

3 said writer plant seeds to replace them and because they more likely did not want to write that character in the first place or did not want to only write that character and it's unsafe is usually presented in.

4. Replace them with maybe keeping the original version in the book or around what are they powered or just presented in a different context such as brainwashed or etc

5. See how long that will sell

6. Replacement character  either sales better or about the same and the character they replace

7. Bring character back and waste of money miniseries or event

8. Give them both series and see how long that will last..

Process 3

Step 1 now that issue of Ironman that War Machine appeared in or that issue I hope that Cho appeared in got this much of a Boost phone retailer buys or sells or what have you..

Repeat steps 2-8/9 lol..

4th process :

Either the upper management or the marketing or editors or cetera have idea or characters they want to be pushed

Repeat steps 2 through 8/9

That's what I mean when I say Marvel for the most part is transparent their overall goal is to give each of their a list characters a family line of books or at least an equivalent of a Nightwing Red Hood and Batgirl..

By those fans who don't support War Machine Falcon Miss Marvel Ultimate Spider-Man, Cho-Hulk, Sam-Nova, Ironheart, Bucky, Daken, X-23 etc when they take over for the original and when they get their own series after it just base until Marvel to do one of those three processes all over again next time cells get low on Captain America or Thor or etc.. and we all know they're going to do it again they've been doing the same thing over again for close to 30 years now if not 30 years it just happens more regularly now..
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: 4sake on March 21, 2018, 04:05:38 pm
Marvel doesn't even permanently replace their 2nd/3rd tier guys who's Legacy or Legacies I proven time and time again that they either sell more and are most interesting concept about the franchise.. ( Clint, Methany, White fragilely fist, johnny Blaze & the like).. not only does morrow not permanently replace them Marvel what openly give them opportunity at the opportunity a place soon in settings to succeed in all while giving their legacy equivalent I have as push or opportunity.. so Steve Rogers Tony Stark Bruce Banner and the like have nothing to be worried about..
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: APEXABYSS on March 22, 2018, 12:23:10 pm


i have no hesitation on askiní for opportunities to pitch!
 
How bout it? You gotta tell the story. Címon, please give us some insight on how you did dat? Can we pitch again?




I pitch everyday to whomever is paying attention.

In fact, I'm pitchin' to you right now. :)


Amen
All righty then, what are ya pitchiní? DM if you need discretion? Iím pitching results. Not talk but action & real creative change!   

Seriously, let me be frank & candid! I got stories. I need those stories supported by a bigger engine. Transparency allows me to move without any hidden agenda. Yíall know what Iím about! Afro-futurism. Iíve been on the same campaign for years. I could use assistance or aid in this creative endeavor. The people able to ďgreen-lightĒ projects.... cut the check!

still?
(http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Maury-Shaq-300x216.jpg)

thread topic:

Man o man, I would love to see the HEF members have a 'say' in all things BP. Letís fight for inclusion. The HEF deserves input. Iíll go hard! I havenít gone hard enough! Honorary wakandans are popping up everywhere. 
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Battle on March 22, 2018, 12:40:27 pm
>>>APEXABYSS

Decaf...(https://i.imgur.com/Ayz02qN.gif)


Works for most hyperactive situations.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Salustrade on March 22, 2018, 03:14:20 pm
Quote
Most pig skins are "klansmans". They are the ones that are smiling in your face. They don't want you around. It's called acting.


And with that, between kareem and battle's constant blatant racist ass comments, I'm out. You two ain't no better than 4chan, it's just coming from the opposite end. Actually, you are worse because at least 4channers read comics. You don't add anything to discussion. I don't even think you read BP comics. It wouldn't' surprise me if you didn't even see the movie. I know one of you didn't even bother to see civil war. But you are "OG" despite you haven't benefited the BP franchise since 2010.

Y'all don't even add anything intelligent to race discussions but "tHe WhItE pEoPlE aRe Da EvIlEsT"

Its just "white people evil yo all white people so yo black self hate f*ck white people 85er pigskins" blah blah blah blah. same sh*t every post.

No wonder people like BoG feel like an outsider despite the fact he actually has read the comics and is an actual fan. No wonder this forum was effectively dead until a mass migration happened from CBR. And at this pace, once IW comes and goes and its another 3 year wait til BPII, it'll likely be effectively dead again.

Seriously, f*ck y'all racist ass.

The cool people... y'all are cool. I imagine I'll see yall eventually elsewhere, somewhere. I hope Bast's blesses John Stewart. But there is too much toxic race stuff in the real world to come to a niche comic book forum just to see and deal with more of it. Ain't worth it to me.


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(https://media.giphy.com/media/hjiRxDYJcc3ny/giphy.gif)

Black people can't be racist. Blacks have no power to make people do anything.

If you actually believe this nonsense you've typed here, you and anyone else sharing your worldview, are really no better than Klansmen.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: APEXABYSS on March 22, 2018, 05:06:38 pm
>>>APEXABYSS

Decaf...(https://i.imgur.com/Ayz02qN.gif)


Works for most hyperactive situations.

Yep, I figured as much. Itís all good. I only asked you to tell the story, because some people pray for an opportunity to pitch an idea to RH. You donít gotta spill the beans. No worries! Iíve asked beforeÖ Iíll ask again, someday. For now, moving forward & going HAM.  Decafe it is! BLACK
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: APEXABYSS on March 22, 2018, 05:11:45 pm
Quote
Most pig skins are "klansmans". They are the ones that are smiling in your face. They don't want you around. It's called acting.



And with that, between kareem and battle's constant blatant racist ass comments, I'm out. You two ain't no better than 4chan, it's just coming from the opposite end. Actually, you are worse because at least 4channers read comics. You don't add anything to discussion. I don't even think you read BP comics. It wouldn't' surprise me if you didn't even see the movie. I know one of you didn't even bother to see civil war. But you are "OG" despite you haven't benefited the BP franchise since 2010.

Y'all don't even add anything intelligent to race discussions but "tHe WhItE pEoPlE aRe Da EvIlEsT"

Its just "white people evil yo all white people so yo black self hate f*ck white people 85er pigskins" blah blah blah blah. same sh*t every post.

No wonder people like BoG feel like an outsider despite the fact he actually has read the comics and is an actual fan. No wonder this forum was effectively dead until a mass migration happened from CBR. And at this pace, once IW comes and goes and its another 3 year wait til BPII, it'll likely be effectively dead again.

Seriously, f*ck y'all racist ass.

The cool people... y'all are cool. I imagine I'll see yall eventually elsewhere, somewhere. I hope Bast's blesses John Stewart. But there is too much toxic race stuff in the real world to come to a niche comic book forum just to see and deal with more of it. Ain't worth it to me.


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Black people can't be racist. Blacks have no power to make people do anything.


If you actually believe this nonsense you've typed here, you and anyone else sharing your worldview, are really no better than Klansmen.


TF! CULTure....  niche culture- sub cultures. race is a conversation you have with kids. adults speak about culture, ethnicity & nationality! one race - the human race.
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Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Battle on March 22, 2018, 05:53:26 pm


Yep, I figured as much. Itís all good. I only asked you to tell the story, because some people pray for an opportunity to pitch an idea to RH. You donít gotta spill the beans. No worries! Iíve asked beforeÖ Iíll ask again, someday. For now, moving forward & going HAM.  Decafe it is! BLACK




The comment simply means:

Calm down.




You were all over the place. You asked several questions in a single paragraph.
Now...   what do you want?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Ezyo on March 22, 2018, 05:58:37 pm
 
Quote
Most pig skins are "klansmans". They are the ones that are smiling in your face. They don't want you around. It's called acting.


And with that, between kareem and battle's constant blatant racist ass comments, I'm out. You two ain't no better than 4chan, it's just coming from the opposite end. Actually, you are worse because at least 4channers read comics. You don't add anything to discussion. I don't even think you read BP comics. It wouldn't' surprise me if you didn't even see the movie. I know one of you didn't even bother to see civil war. But you are "OG" despite you haven't benefited the BP franchise since 2010.

Y'all don't even add anything intelligent to race discussions but "tHe WhItE pEoPlE aRe Da EvIlEsT"

Its just "white people evil yo all white people so yo black self hate f*ck white people 85er pigskins" blah blah blah blah. same sh*t every post.

No wonder people like BoG feel like an outsider despite the fact he actually has read the comics and is an actual fan. No wonder this forum was effectively dead until a mass migration happened from CBR. And at this pace, once IW comes and goes and its another 3 year wait til BPII, it'll likely be effectively dead again.

Seriously, f*ck y'all racist ass.

The cool people... y'all are cool. I imagine I'll see yall eventually elsewhere, somewhere. I hope Bast's blesses John Stewart. But there is too much toxic race stuff in the real world to come to a niche comic book forum just to see and deal with more of it. Ain't worth it to me.


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(https://media.giphy.com/media/hjiRxDYJcc3ny/giphy.gif)

Black people can't be racist. Blacks have no power to make people do anything.

If you actually believe this nonsense you've typed here, you and anyone else sharing your worldview, are really no better than Klansmen.
Since this person has joined they have contributed nothing to conversations and constantly went after MoS. Hopefully he comes back because there is still lots to talk about and he has a blog to make sure it's kept current for BP fans out there needing to reference to cats Trying to get cute. But for real no contribution. Just wasted posts
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CvilleWakandan on March 22, 2018, 06:27:31 pm
>>>APEXABYSS

Decaf...(https://i.imgur.com/Ayz02qN.gif)


Works for most hyperactive situations.


Yep, I figured as much. Itís all good. I only asked you to tell the story, because some people pray for an opportunity to pitch an idea to RH. You donít gotta spill the beans. No worries! Iíve asked beforeÖ Iíll ask again, someday. For now, moving forward & going HAM.  Decafe it is! BLACK


If you're taking story ideas, I'll give you mine. I cant write or draw anyway. lol

BP stories
Prison Break. Skrull(one or two super skulls for a challenge), Nigandans, Hydra and A.I.M goons escape during a power outage. Also included is Nakia and her tribal chieftan who killed her family members. BP could track them easily, but chooses to have fun with it and uses his animal senses to track them down Predator style.

Oh god Where art thou - Same premise as Coates. The gods have gone missing as the light in Wakandan temples have gone out. BP puts a crew together composed of himself, the old mystic, a skrull, and a atlantian(both of whom have been living in a deserted villiage after their respective invasions) and a couple more Wakandan characters to search for them. The catch is with the link gone, they have to travel through all other pantheons of earth from ealiest to oldest fighting their way through until they real the Panther god temple.

Tournament of champions - With the gods restored a millennium tournament is held composed of the acolytes of god throughout the galaxy. Earth team= BP, Miles(Anansi), Voodoo, White Tiger, Juggernaut, and the son of Shango Thunder god. The prize. At the center of every galaxy is a chair placed there by "the one above all" The winning teams gods get to use it to do whatever they want with unlimited power.

These are the big stories.
Others include the MA get exiled and do a Coming to America type story in NY
A story with average WK college students
A pair to WK youth who through lab accidents get powers and become heroes in training.

Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Battle on March 22, 2018, 06:33:43 pm


Tournament of champions - With the gods restored a millennium tournament is held composed of the acolytes of god throughout the galaxy. Earth team= BP, Miles(Anansi), Voodoo, White Tiger, Juggernaut, and the son of Shango Thunder god. The prize. At the center of every galaxy is a chair placed there by "the one above all" The winning teams gods get to use it to do whatever they want with unlimited power.






I like this idea.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CvilleWakandan on March 22, 2018, 07:21:10 pm
@APEXABYSS

A business model for Marvel I've been thinking about lately. Minority comics have trouble maintaining good sales numbers. What it they did like Shonen Jump and put them all in on large book with fewer pages for chapters. Example being Heroes for Hire, Falcon, Blade, Adam and Spectrum and others coming out bi-monthly in one book for a reasonable price. Even do it in black and white if they have to. To save money hire writer/artist and give them art interns for assistants.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: APEXABYSS on March 23, 2018, 01:01:35 pm
>>>APEXABYSS

Decaf...([url]https://i.imgur.com/Ayz02qN.gif[/url])


Works for most hyperactive situations.



Yep, I figured as much. Itís all good. I only asked you to tell the story, because some people pray for an opportunity to pitch an idea to RH. You donít gotta spill the beans. No worries! Iíve asked beforeÖ Iíll ask again, someday. For now, moving forward & going HAM.  Decafe it is! BLACK



If you're taking story ideas, I'll give you mine. I cant write or draw anyway. lol

BP stories
Prison Break. Skrull(one or two super skulls for a challenge), Nigandans, Hydra and A.I.M goons escape during a power outage. Also included is Nakia and her tribal chieftan who killed her family members. BP could track them easily, but chooses to have fun with it and uses his animal senses to track them down Predator style.

Oh god Where art thou - Same premise as Coates. The gods have gone missing as the light in Wakandan temples have gone out. BP puts a crew together composed of himself, the old mystic, a skrull, and a atlantian(both of whom have been living in a deserted villiage after their respective invasions) and a couple more Wakandan characters to search for them. The catch is with the link gone, they have to travel through all other pantheons of earth from ealiest to oldest fighting their way through until they real the Panther god temple.

Tournament of champions - With the gods restored a millennium tournament is held composed of the acolytes of god throughout the galaxy. Earth team= BP, Miles(Anansi), Voodoo, White Tiger, Juggernaut, and the son of Shango Thunder god. The prize. At the center of every galaxy is a chair placed there by "the one above all" The winning teams gods get to use it to do whatever they want with unlimited power.

These are the big stories.
Others include the MA get exiled and do a Coming to America type story in NY
A story with average WK college students
A pair to WK youth who through lab accidents get powers and become heroes in training.


Fantastic stories, CvilleWakandan! super skulls? Yes! fighting their way... the Panther god temple. Interesting! Fighting how? How they battle could really make an amazing story. Tournament of champions Ė sounds dope. Again, the action has to be on point. Iím a fan of fanfic.
Ture & I are still working on PROTOCOLS. Protocols still under construction. We discussed creating a weekly comic-strip for BP. Once weíre done or while weíre still in the process, hopefully HEF members will want to submit more (short) script ideas for the strip.  Ture gave me a big story & perfect references. Phenomenal writing by Ture. Heís the man! Iíll try to post the first draft pages next week. For now, get creative & letís do some epic HEF collabs. 

here's an example of how the weekly HEF comic strip may look like.
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we'll add (humorous or honest) commentary about the current/past/future state of BP... including action. 

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@APEXABYSS

A business model for Marvel I've been thinking about lately. Minority comics have trouble maintaining good sales numbers. What it they did like Shonen Jump and put them all in on large book with fewer pages for chapters. Example being Heroes for Hire, Falcon, Blade, Adam and Spectrum and others coming out bi-monthly in one book for a reasonable price. Even do it in black and white if they have to. To save money hire writer/artist and give them art interns for assistants.



Awesome sells. Cool sells. There are plenty of great black creators. Are they putting out awesome? Coach Coates does have many highlights but ultimately fails to lead the team to real BP victories.


Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: APEXABYSS on March 23, 2018, 01:16:45 pm


Yep, I figured as much. Itís all good. I only asked you to tell the story, because some people pray for an opportunity to pitch an idea to RH. You donít gotta spill the beans. No worries! Iíve asked beforeÖ Iíll ask again, someday. For now, moving forward & going HAM.  Decafe it is! BLACK




The comment simply means:

Calm down.




You were all over the place. You asked several questions in a single paragraph.
Now...   what do you want?

Ha! Yeah, I get it! Decaf! I comprehend subtle suggestions well...  The ďHAMĒ guy to calm down. Youíre being coy! Details are everything, right? several questions? my intentions have been on full display. who on the HEF doesn't know my creative goals (total & complete domination of our heroes)? sorry, not sorry! some may choose 2 ignore, but I'm sure they know. if not-  I want whatís happening to happen with a team & budget. I Ďm trying to center myself in the creative process for black characters. Iíll verbalize it plainly. Iím fighting for inclusion & trying to build relationships with the Ďgreen lightí crew. you helped to green light a project. your words. I just asked how you did dat? and can/will you do it again?



 
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CvilleWakandan on March 23, 2018, 01:41:47 pm
@APEXABYSS. Sorry typing to fast. lol. I meant Super Skrulls. Leftovers from See Wakanda and Die
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Battle on March 23, 2018, 03:50:55 pm


Yep, I figured as much. Itís all good. I only asked you to tell the story, because some people pray for an opportunity to pitch an idea to RH. You donít gotta spill the beans. No worries! Iíve asked beforeÖ Iíll ask again, someday. For now, moving forward & going HAM.  Decafe it is! BLACK




The comment simply means:

Calm down.




You were all over the place. You asked several questions in a single paragraph.
Now...   what do you want?

Ha! Yeah, I get it! Decaf! I comprehend subtle suggestions well...  The ďHAMĒ guy to calm down. Youíre being coy! Details are everything, right? several questions? my intentions have been on full display. who on the HEF doesn't know my creative goals (total & complete domination of our heroes)? sorry, not sorry! some may choose 2 ignore, but I'm sure they know. if not-  I want whatís happening to happen with a team & budget. I Ďm trying to center myself in the creative process for black characters. Iíll verbalize it plainly. Iím fighting for inclusion & trying to build relationships with the Ďgreen lightí crew. you helped to green light a project. your words. I just asked how you did dat? and can/will you do it again?



Bruh...


I pitch ideas, concepts and like to collaborate creatively...  everyday.

I don't have the power to green-light anything, however, I do see my stuff in videogames, television shows, movies, etc. 'cause I stay in contact with people in those workgroups everyday.

You are very talented and would love to work w/you someday.   :)

Meanwhile, I'd strongly recommend exploring the incredible opportunities in videogame design 'cause that field is wide open for energetic, young artists like yourself.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Battle on March 23, 2018, 08:25:08 pm


Ho- hum! with all that said, you still did not answer the question. Thatís why I said donít worry about it.



O.K...

I'll try to ask my question in espanol this time:

ŅQue Tu Quieres, Hombre?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: APEXABYSS on March 24, 2018, 05:41:29 pm
exhaust all options.   pitching... pushing boundaries... campaigning... not really asking...

action in BP2?  get well soon
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dora solo? hef adjustment bureau 
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no worries

Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Battle on March 24, 2018, 08:05:33 pm
>>>APEXABYSS


I always feel as if subtitles are needed when communicating w/you.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: APEXABYSS on March 25, 2018, 04:27:34 pm
>>>APEXABYSS


I always feel as if subtitles are needed when communicating w/you.


Que?
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Itís all good! I went back to the thread topic- BP2 spec.  ^^please, enjoy the gifs I posted^^^.  As a matter of fact, take a real hard look at all the gifs. This is how you pitch & school @ the same time. 

shuri could have a new panther habit. something beyond the norm. I really do feel for any future BP creator.
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Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread




Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: APEXABYSS on March 25, 2018, 06:26:39 pm
exhaust all options.   pitching... pushing boundaries... campaigning... not really asking...

action in BP2?  get well soon
([url]http://78.media.tumblr.com/a1438302c61fdadac1676f16c9b15c07/tumblr_mxcemln1KB1r5j0rso1_400.gif[/url])

dora solo? hef adjustment bureau 
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no worries


okay last call

BP2 spec

new suit tech?
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shuri?
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remember this... Wakandans in space?
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Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: 4sake on March 26, 2018, 12:10:31 pm
Too cool Apex...
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: CvilleWakandan on March 26, 2018, 04:13:11 pm
@APEXABYSS. Got a few more mythos ideas.
 
Using Coates map, turn Tchaka city into a military base. Turn the Learned city into a floating island that is all one giant university/library.

Make the movie necklace be able to store more than one panther habit. A different version could be stored in each talon. Priest version, movie version, thrice blessed armor, the new one in Rise......

Most people when attacking WK go after the golden city, but ignore the surrounding villages. Give Tchalla a shadow physics feat by being able to move those villages and the people out of phase until the danger passes.
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on March 28, 2018, 10:50:35 am
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Most pig skins are "klansmans". They are the ones that are smiling in your face. They don't want you around. It's called acting.


And with that, between kareem and battle's constant blatant racist ass comments, I'm out. You two ain't no better than 4chan, it's just coming from the opposite end. Actually, you are worse because at least 4channers read comics. You don't add anything to discussion. I don't even think you read BP comics. It wouldn't' surprise me if you didn't even see the movie. I know one of you didn't even bother to see civil war. But you are "OG" despite you haven't benefited the BP franchise since 2010.

Y'all don't even add anything intelligent to race discussions but "tHe WhItE pEoPlE aRe Da EvIlEsT"

Its just "white people evil yo all white people so yo black self hate f*ck white people 85er pigskins" blah blah blah blah. same sh*t every post.

No wonder people like BoG feel like an outsider despite the fact he actually has read the comics and is an actual fan. No wonder this forum was effectively dead until a mass migration happened from CBR. And at this pace, once IW comes and goes and its another 3 year wait til BPII, it'll likely be effectively dead again.

Seriously, f*ck y'all racist ass.

The cool people... y'all are cool. I imagine I'll see yall eventually elsewhere, somewhere. I hope Bast's blesses John Stewart. But there is too much toxic race stuff in the real world to come to a niche comic book forum just to see and deal with more of it. Ain't worth it to me.


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Black people can't be racist. Blacks have no power to make people do anything.
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Okay, just catching up to this controversy. I didn't read every post on every thread, but I say a statement that I strongly disagree with.

I hate when people say that black people can't be racist. 

Humans can be anything. 

And the idea that black people are a) powerless and b) therefore can't be racist is really silly to me. 

Every human being has power.  You don't need money, or other people to make change.  Think of the man in China who stood in front of the tanks.  Think of MLK and a million other people, famous or not, who changed the world. 

Second, why would you seek to embrace powerlessness as a "get out of jail free" card in regards to behavior?
Title: Re: Black Panther 2 Speculation Thread
Post by: MindofShadow on March 29, 2018, 06:22:06 am
proving a point, mods can easily undo