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Title: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Cheirel on April 13, 2007, 04:52:44 pm
The Jordan divorce may be the most expensive in entertainment history.

http://apnews.myway.com//article/20070413/D8OG0O2O0.html
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: BarbaraB on April 13, 2007, 08:29:50 pm
She's about to get paid!

Do we know why they're getting divorced?
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: bluezulu on April 14, 2007, 04:33:46 am
Lol, he is Jordan do you have to ask? A friend of mine who played pro football said that it was well known that Mike was knocking the women out of the park. When they first separated I think he was getting a little too disrespectful with his other women, she gave him an ultimatum. I guess he couldn't keep his end. I guess you really need to be free if you will pay 200 million for the women at the club? :-\
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Jenn on April 14, 2007, 08:01:03 am
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWDDDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: bluezulu on April 14, 2007, 08:25:40 am
That is a helluva mid life crisis. Jordan is old now kids about to go to college and now after all of those years together instead of buying a new lambo he got to start dating the 20 year old chicks...200 million for that? Makes sense to me :-\.not.
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: BarbaraB on April 14, 2007, 09:26:43 am
Now those women will want to f*** Wanita instead of Mike
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Catch22 on April 14, 2007, 03:16:52 pm
Damn...oh well....he can afford it.  Now, a brotha like myself will have a roommate before he has an ex-wife, alimony and child support payments! LOL  I guess Mike was hittin' Magic City when he dropped by the ATL a little too hard.
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Cheirel on April 14, 2007, 08:45:20 pm
It always cheaper to keep her. I'm telling you if she likes it you love. There is no million dollar cookie out there. As a good friend always tells me you show me the most beautiful woman in the world and I show her man that's tired of fu*ki$$g her and I always tell him and she been faking for just as long. So just find things in common and make things work cuz' trust it's never easy.
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: D- Ruck on April 14, 2007, 10:40:34 pm
Juanita:  BALLLLLLLLIIIIIN!
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: supreme illuminati on April 19, 2007, 01:09:53 pm
I have never been a fan of the 50/50 settlement across the board.Bottom line? Juanita didn't do one thing to be worthy of Mike's millions.Whatever you can say Juanita did,you can ALSO say Mike did.Mother? Hell,Mike's a father...THAT'S HOW JUANITA GOT TO BE A MOTHER.She didn't play one bball game.She never faced Magic and Larry.She didn't go to ONE bball practice and dish to Scottie or Phi Slamma Jamma or anyone.She didn't get her ankles broken by A.I.

Basically,she's gettin paid because she screwed the greatest bball player in history and lived with him.Hell,you can hit the club and get a maid and snuggle up to all your millions,man.The institution of marriage is getting so difficult on the downside that a lot of people--including me--are highly suspect of it.Hell,it's getting to the point that you don't even want to have kids anymore because she'll get millions just for that.She went through changes for nine months--which put you through changes for nine months--and she gets paid millions and millions for the rest of her life.From you.
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: BarbaraB on April 19, 2007, 02:20:51 pm
I have never been a fan of the 50/50 settlement across the board.Bottom line? Juanita didn't do one thing to be worthy of Mike's millions.Whatever you can say Juanita did,you can ALSO say Mike did.Mother? Hell,Mike's a father...THAT'S HOW JUANITA GOT TO BE A MOTHER.She didn't play one bball game.She never faced Magic and Larry.She didn't go to ONE bball practice and dish to Scottie or Phi Slamma Jamma or anyone.She didn't get her ankles broken by A.I.

Basically,she's gettin paid because she screwed the greatest bball player in history and lived with him.Hell,you can hit the club and get a maid and snuggle up to all your millions,man.The institution of marriage is getting so difficult on the downside that a lot of people--including me--are highly suspect of it.Hell,it's getting to the point that you don't even want to have kids anymore because she'll get millions just for that.She went through changes for nine months--which put you through changes for nine months--and she gets paid millions and millions for the rest of her life.From you.

WooW

Jordan is not hurting from losing that money. Not that that fact alone makes it right for her to get half.

What about the fact that she's been there since the beginning? I think even before he was a big star. What about her holding down the house and the family while he was on the road and probably knocking the bottoms out of groupies? Yeah he could have gotten a maid to take care of his kids and his house, but he didn't. Are you saying that a maid is a good substitute for a mother?


Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Magic Wand on April 19, 2007, 04:54:28 pm
Jordan knew that the possibility of paying out all that money was incentive for him to “act right”.
He didn’t.  Now it’s time for Juanita to bounce.  I suppose Juanita has been grinning and bearing it for years.  She’s obviously reached her limit.  Things would have to be pretty unbearable for her to relinquish him and his whole estate for only half of it.
Of course she deserves it!  Yes, it’s an enormous amount of money, but  wasn’t she  with Jordan before the money?    SI, you say is not worthy of Jordan's millions, I say it was a trade-off.  Perhaps if she had not been married to him, she would have made her own money doing her own thing.  We will never know.
Also, Juanita has grown accustomed to a comfortable lifestyle over her years with Air Jordan.  Should she be penalized for her husband’s philandering?  Should she be tossed back to the projects?  I hardly think that’s fair. 
Lastly, half Jordan’s current estate is a FIXED AMOUNT that Juanita will have to budget to last for the rest of her life.  Without the promise of future earnings, she will have to scale her lifestyle back accordingly. 
Of course it’s cheaper for him to keep her!  But she only comes out on top only if she stays.  There are no winners here.  (Except Jordan’s attorneys and hoze.)
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Catch22 on April 20, 2007, 02:46:44 am
Magic...I was trying to understand your perspective until I read this line... "Lastly, half Jordan’s current estate is a FIXED AMOUNT that Juanita will have to budget to last for the rest of her life.  Without the promise of future earnings, she will have to scale her lifestyle back accordingly."  Come on!!  $150 Million and she has to "scale back her lifestyle"??  If Jordan only made $50K per year, then yeah, she'd have to scale back, but when you get over $100 Million, I think she's going to be RATHER comfortable for the rest of her days if she doesn't earn a single penny from now till eternity.  All without having to have Bill Laimbeer hit her in the ribs for driving the lane!

And why do we ALWAYS come down on the man for infidelity??  How do we know she didn't have Eduardo Suave living in the guest house, knocking it out six ways to Sunday while MJ was on the road?  Why is it the wife is always the victim?  I don't buy it...we don't know the story and Juanita could have been just as freak nasty as you all know MJ to be.We always want to make it seem like the woman's sitting at home with a candle by the window waiting for her philandering husband to come home, but I'll bet if you open up her closet door bones are falling out left and right, too. 

I also disagree with your assessment about winners...everybody wins...Jordan's not hurting for money and he can get all the young stuff he wants, Juanita's not hurting for money and she can go get another young buck, herself...and the lawyers are just counting money and diving into stacks of it like Uncle Scrooge.
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: bluezulu on April 20, 2007, 08:58:09 am
Most of the time I side with Catch with cases like this except for here. No Juanita was not there from the exact beginning but close. She was there right before the take off. 89 I believe. From the book the Jordan Rules Juanita was the catch back in the day and dated several ball players before meeting Jordan. You see. Everybody ain't wifey material and I ususally know whats up when the famous person is with a 7 or 8 instead of that 10. I believe the marriage was an agreement the whole time and she played her part. They have beautiful well raised kids. Look at Coach Reed kids of the Philadelphia eagles. She showed up when she was supposed to, smiled for the cameras. Now that the kids will be out the house soon, they can stop fronting. He can do his thang and she can stop being defined as Jordan's wife. Sh*t 17/18 years I say it's a good deal on both accounts.

Now some of those other groupies out there. ::)
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Hypestyle on April 20, 2007, 09:20:35 am
Well... I hope brother Mike doesn't do like Paul McCartney, hook up with someone on the rebound and have to do another divorce soon after..

I wonder will the base price of new Jordans go up further?
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Vic Vega on April 20, 2007, 09:54:07 am
Jordan knew that the possibility of paying out all that money was incentive for him to “act right”.
He didn’t.  Now it’s time for Juanita to bounce.  I suppose Juanita has been grinning and bearing it for years.  She’s obviously reached her limit.  Things would have to be pretty unbearable for her to relinquish him and his whole estate for only half of it.
Of course she deserves it!  Yes, it’s an enormous amount of money, but  wasn’t she  with Jordan before the money?    SI, you say is not worthy of Jordan's millions, I say it was a trade-off.  Perhaps if she had not been married to him, she would have made her own money doing her own thing.  We will never know.
Also, Juanita has grown accustomed to a comfortable lifestyle over her years with Air Jordan.  Should she be penalized for her husband’s philandering?  Should she be tossed back to the projects?  I hardly think that’s fair. 
Lastly, half Jordan’s current estate is a FIXED AMOUNT that Juanita will have to budget to last for the rest of her life.  Without the promise of future earnings, she will have to scale her lifestyle back accordingly. 
Of course it’s cheaper for him to keep her!  But she only comes out on top only if she stays.  There are no winners here.  (Except Jordan’s attorneys and hoze.)


ONLY half????

FIXED AMOUNT???

I find it hard no, impossible to imagine that Juanita will have to suffer any if she's forced to eke by on a measly 150 million or so.

Its not like she has a mortgage (you have to figure she's getting a house out of this too) or car payments. Or a raging coke habit. I don't see how living on 150 is going to be a struggle for her.

The logic that states that marriage is an equal partnership in which each party is entitled to an equal share of the value thereof kinda falls flat here, I think.

And Magic, the hoze don't win. They ain't getting any more than they got before. Jordan can just do his tomcatting openly now. Which might be a relief for the brotha, but I highly doubt the privilege is worth all that dough.

As usual the only winners are the lawyers. When the bomb finally gets dropped, I'm certain that all that's going to be left are cockroaches and lawyers selling them real estate.


 
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: The Dark Wright on April 20, 2007, 02:13:28 pm
I wonder will the base price of new Jordans go up further?

Man, from 100 and change back in '86 to 20 years later 174 and some.  Can a brother get a pair of 50 dollar sneaks anymore?

And the interest that Juanita will make off of her 150 mil is WAY more than she could earn on a year-to-year basis.  Paid.
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Mastrmynd on April 20, 2007, 06:48:43 pm
they already did... or were they always starting at 118$
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: supreme illuminati on April 22, 2007, 11:47:18 am
Jordan knew that the possibility of paying out all that money was incentive for him to “act right”.
He didn’t.  Now it’s time for Juanita to bounce.  I suppose Juanita has been grinning and bearing it for years.  She’s obviously reached her limit.  Things would have to be pretty unbearable for her to relinquish him and his whole estate for only half of it.
Of course she deserves it!  Yes, it’s an enormous amount of money, but  wasn’t she  with Jordan before the money?    SI, you say is not worthy of Jordan's millions, I say it was a trade-off.  Perhaps if she had not been married to him, she would have made her own money doing her own thing.  We will never know.
Also, Juanita has grown accustomed to a comfortable lifestyle over her years with Air Jordan.  Should she be penalized for her husband’s philandering?  Should she be tossed back to the projects?  I hardly think that’s fair. 
Lastly, half Jordan’s current estate is a FIXED AMOUNT that Juanita will have to budget to last for the rest of her life.  Without the promise of future earnings, she will have to scale her lifestyle back accordingly. 
Of course it’s cheaper for him to keep her!  But she only comes out on top only if she stays.  There are no winners here.  (Except Jordan’s attorneys and hoze.)


ONLY half????

FIXED AMOUNT???

I find it hard no, impossible to imagine that Juanita will have to suffer any if she's forced to eke by on a measly 150 million or so.

Its not like she has a mortgage (you have to figure she's getting a house out of this too) or car payments. Or a raging coke habit. I don't see how living on 150 is going to be a struggle for her.

The logic that states that marriage is an equal partnership in which each party is entitled to an equal share of the value thereof kinda falls flat here, I think.

And Magic, the hoze don't win. They ain't getting any more than they got before. Jordan can just do his tomcatting openly now. Which might be a relief for the brotha, but I highly doubt the privilege is worth all that dough.

As usual the only winners are the lawyers. When the bomb finally gets dropped, I'm certain that all that's going to be left are cockroaches and lawyers selling them real estate.


 


Magic and Cheirel,my wonderful ladies of HEF...


There is no cookie anywhere ever ever evereverevereverever worth 150 million dollars.The Virgin Mary's cookie ain't worth a 150 million dollars.Period point blank.Juanita won't have to scale back diddly squat in her life,and neithe will all of those other filthy rich wives whom are being rewarded for sharing the sheets with the man who brought the bread and made the cash.Nothing that they did makes them worth half the effort and labor that it took to acquire the income in the first place.

If MJ sat down half of his high school,pro and college careers and Juanita came in and played those games for him in equally sterling fashion? Yep,she'd be worth half of his estate.If she did half of his commercials,played against half of the players,cultivated the demonic work ethic of his and worked out at half of the practices,was equally talented and as maniacally driven as MJ is? If she made half of the business deals because she was half as marketable as he is? Yep,she deserves half.

But what she has done basically boils down to living in his crib and getting stuff through his bank account and having his kids.All of which MJ himself supplied either all of the effort or at least half of it.Therefore she isn't entitled to half of his money period point blank ever and that's it.Now,maybe based upon a mathematical formula and the kids she could come off with a mere million or so...you know,that way she could merely spend the rest of her life in luxury,instead of filthy rich triple snootiness.Basically,she would literally be entitled to Lottery money just because she shared the sheets with Jordan.That's really what it boils down to.

Plus,as Catch and others pointed out...how do we know that Juanita WASN'T gettin her freak on too? WE DON'T. All we know is that she's getting 150 million plus and she didn't generate a dime of that money.

The converse is ALSO true.

If anybody marries Oprah Winfrey,the don't deserve a damn dime of her empire.Same for Martha Stewart and Paris Hilton (I can't believe I'm defending Paris,but I am...). Nobody deserves a nickle of,say,Beyonce's money except BEYONCE.If you work for the money,the money is yours.Period.Nobody else's but yours.Until they bring an equal or equivalent value to the relationship--if you bring something of significant net worth to the partnership--you don't deserve the money that your mate made.Period point blank that's all that's it.
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Sam Wilson on April 22, 2007, 12:19:39 pm

There is no cookie anywhere ever ever evereverevereverever worth 150 million dollars.The Virgin Mary's cookie ain't worth a 150 million dollars.

I'd like to meet some though, and put that sh*t on layaway...  ;D
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: supreme illuminati on April 22, 2007, 12:46:04 pm
I have never been a fan of the 50/50 settlement across the board.Bottom line? Juanita didn't do one thing to be worthy of Mike's millions.Whatever you can say Juanita did,you can ALSO say Mike did.Mother? Hell,Mike's a father...THAT'S HOW JUANITA GOT TO BE A MOTHER.She didn't play one bball game.She never faced Magic and Larry.She didn't go to ONE bball practice and dish to Scottie or Phi Slamma Jamma or anyone.She didn't get her ankles broken by A.I.

Basically,she's gettin paid because she screwed the greatest bball player in history and lived with him.Hell,you can hit the club and get a maid and snuggle up to all your millions,man.The institution of marriage is getting so difficult on the downside that a lot of people--including me--are highly suspect of it.Hell,it's getting to the point that you don't even want to have kids anymore because she'll get millions just for that.She went through changes for nine months--which put you through changes for nine months--and she gets paid millions and millions for the rest of her life.From you.

WooW

Jordan is not hurting from losing that money. Not that that fact alone makes it right for her to get half.

What about the fact that she's been there since the beginning? I think even before he was a big star. What about her holding down the house and the family while he was on the road and probably knocking the bottoms out of groupies? Yeah he could have gotten a maid to take care of his kids and his house, but he didn't. Are you saying that a maid is a good substitute for a mother?





Jordan isn't hurting? Darling,you could be BILL GATES and that 150 million plus IS GONNA HURT.That's a major part of the reason that she went for the big bucks...to permanently harm MJ.Purely for punitive purposes only.The "standard of living that she is used to"? Yeah,she didn't EARN that.MJ did.HE PAID FOR THAT AND GOT THE CONTRACT MONEY TO LAVISH HER WITH LUXURY.If she went out and hustled up the money on her own,that's one thing.And you wouldn't find MJ trying to get half of it,that's for damn sure.

Somehow,though,I think that Juanita wouldn't've generated 300 million dollars all by her lonesome though,whatever her talents are.I mean,our boi REGINALD HUDLIN DOESN'T MAKE THAT MUCH,and I kinda sorta think that he probably is more talented and has more contacts than Juanita does.Call it a hunch.A nagging suspicion.

None of those women deserve a dime of the man's money.Notice how the rich guy isn't trying to snag money from the woman...rich or not.Yeah.That's a pattern.And even if he did? He doesn't deserve a damn dime of HER money.Somehow,though,people are intellectually insufficient enough to think that it's okay for the woman...WHOEVER SHE MAY BE...to snag half of the man's belongings,HOWEVER MUCH SHE DIDN'T DO TO EARN IT.My response to that?

HELL NO GETCHA OWN DOUGH.

Point blank.


ENDETH ILLUMINATION
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: BarbaraB on April 22, 2007, 07:07:02 pm

Jordan isn't hurting? Darling,you could be BILL GATES and that 150 million plus IS GONNA HURT.That's a major part of the reason that she went for the big bucks...to permanently harm MJ.Purely for punitive purposes only.The "standard of living that she is used to"? Yeah,she didn't EARN that.MJ did.HE PAID FOR THAT AND GOT THE CONTRACT MONEY TO LAVISH HER WITH LUXURY.If she went out and hustled up the money on her own,that's one thing.And you wouldn't find MJ trying to get half of it,that's for damn sure.


None of those women deserve a dime of the man's money.Notice how the rich guy isn't trying to snag money from the woman...rich or not.Yeah.That's a pattern.And even if he did? He doesn't deserve a damn dime of HER money.Somehow,though,people are intellectually insufficient enough to think that it's okay for the woman...WHOEVER SHE MAY BE...to snag half of the man's belongings,HOWEVER MUCH SHE DIDN'T DO TO EARN IT.My response to that?

HELL NO GETCHA OWN DOUGH.

Point blank.


ENDETH ILLUMINATION


If you were married and you and your wife were getting a divorce you would leave her with nothing while you basked in your riches? Two of their kids are still in high school what about their standards of living? Its not like they are going to be with Mike all the time, and probably not even half of the time. Seventeen years of helping to uphold his family man image is worth something, and so is having his children. Somehow though,some people are intellectually insufficient enough to think that Juanita deserves nothing.

Don't act like you don't hear about men going after their rich wives & girlfriends money because if you haven't then you must live under a rock, Darling.

Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: supreme illuminati on April 22, 2007, 07:56:16 pm

Jordan isn't hurting? Darling,you could be BILL GATES and that 150 million plus IS GONNA HURT.That's a major part of the reason that she went for the big bucks...to permanently harm MJ.Purely for punitive purposes only.The "standard of living that she is used to"? Yeah,she didn't EARN that.MJ did.HE PAID FOR THAT AND GOT THE CONTRACT MONEY TO LAVISH HER WITH LUXURY.If she went out and hustled up the money on her own,that's one thing.And you wouldn't find MJ trying to get half of it,that's for damn sure.


None of those women deserve a dime of the man's money.Notice how the rich guy isn't trying to snag money from the woman...rich or not.Yeah.That's a pattern.And even if he did? He doesn't deserve a damn dime of HER money.Somehow,though,people are intellectually insufficient enough to think that it's okay for the woman...WHOEVER SHE MAY BE...to snag half of the man's belongings,HOWEVER MUCH SHE DIDN'T DO TO EARN IT.My response to that?

HELL NO GETCHA OWN DOUGH.

Point blank.


ENDETH ILLUMINATION


If you were married and you and your wife were getting a divorce you would leave her with nothing while you basked in your riches? Two of their kids are still in high school what about their standards of living? Its not like they are going to be with Mike all the time, and probably not even half of the time. Seventeen years of helping to uphold his family man image is worth something, and so is having his children. Somehow though,some people are intellectually insufficient enough to think that Juanita deserves nothing.

Don't act like you don't hear about men going after their rich wives & girlfriends money because if you haven't then you must live under a rock, Darling.




Hahahahaha,I LIKE that response BarbaraB! However...

In the issue of the 17 year olds? Yeah,I did half the work of the fathering aspect plus ALL THE MONEY MAKING.So NO she doesn't deserve half of the 300 million.If she did all the money making and half of the parenting? Yeah,not many people would argue that she shouldn't keep her money.In my previous posts,I listed how I emphatically think that Beyonce is entitled to every penny she has earned through her record sales,no matter who she marries,and whomever is her husband doesn't deserve a single peso of her income.Becase SHE earned it,not him.Same with Oprah,Madonna,Martha Stewart,the girls on THE VIEW or whatever that show's called,and the whole crew of independent women.

And YEP, there ARE raggedy men whom try to leech off of their women *cough cough KEVIN FEDERLINE cough cough*.But these sorry ragamuffins are the exception.And I think that they deserve NADA.

Back to the seventeen year olds...yeah,Juanita should deserve some form of compensation for that.As I stated earlier in my posts,a cool million dollars for turning down the sheets with the greatest bball player EVER and having his kids? That's literally Lottery money,and she should be happy to get it.I honestly think that a million bucks is more than a bit excessive,because...does it really take a million bucks to raise kids? Nope.If they need something,they can ask MJ.Hell,they might LIVE with him,and that way they would receive the best of everything.Live with MJ,visit Juanita.I think that she should honestly get MAX about half a million bucks.Don't sneer.I sorta kinda think that a half million bucks plus a round promoting her book called something like THE GAME YOU DIDN'T SEE would give her stupid levels of cash.So half a million bucks plus putting her name out there promoting works that she ACTUALLY DID and can ACTUALLY CLAIM CAME FROM HER OWN EFFORTS,and NOT basically bumming off of her husband.So go with half a million to about a million... given MJ's income? One million out of three hundred million seems about right...

And let's stop all this noise about Juanita being there from the beginning.There was only ONE person who was with MJ from the beginning,and you know who it was? MICHAEL JORDAN.As a child,MJ excelled in sports.As a child,he determined to make sports his way of life.Where was Juanita when MJ was in preschool or elementary or junior high or high school? Nowhere to be found.So she WASN'T at the beginning.Only MJ was.She met MJ in college,right? College is MOST DEFINITELY NOT THE BEGINNING.God blessed him with G.O.A.T. potential and the never-say-die ferocious demonic work ethic and unconquerable spirit that he displayed throughout his career.We ever see Juanita rise like a projectile missile and bring the thunder funk on Manute Bol or Mtumbo or anybody? Did we all excitedly jabber about the possibility of MJ facing MAGIC and the LAKERS in the NBA FINALS? Oh...we weren't givin a damn about Juanita then,were we? We were talking about MICHAEL.He was the one that got our hearts racing and imagination triple pumping into overdrive and awakening the inspiration to fly and BE LIKE MIKE...I WANNA BE LIKE MIKE.I don't wanna be like Juanita. I WANNA BE LIKE MIKE.

We are going overboard here with all the empathy and sympathy for the wives of superstar athletes...we're making far too many assumptions here.

Do we know if Juanita was gettin freaky with others? NOPE. Do we know if MJ was? NOPE,we only know what THE MEDIA SAYS.You know,that trustworthy media which NEVER bandies about racial stereotypes and stuff and which brought us debacles like the OJ case and many others.We can trust them.Jenn even has a link to YAAMS about how trustworthy they are.

That was sarcasm,by the way,and in no way intended to be disrespectful to women at all.But the points I made are quite valid.

Martha Stewart shouldn't have to part with a fraction of a peso to someone whom didn't come up with a single printing pattern or whatever for her company.That's like saying that--Panther God forfend--if Ororo and Tchalla break up,well...SHE DESERVES HALF OF WAKANDA.That's literally that kind of mindblowing dooficity that we are annointing here.Clearly preposterous.

Take a half a million to a million and bounce.It was hard on BOTH sides,I'm sure of it...but 150 million dollars? You can buy up all the top hitmen on the East Coast and from the former Soviet Union COMBINED for LESS THAN THAT.
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: BarbaraB on April 22, 2007, 11:08:17 pm

Jordan isn't hurting? Darling,you could be BILL GATES and that 150 million plus IS GONNA HURT.That's a major part of the reason that she went for the big bucks...to permanently harm MJ.Purely for punitive purposes only.The "standard of living that she is used to"? Yeah,she didn't EARN that.MJ did.HE PAID FOR THAT AND GOT THE CONTRACT MONEY TO LAVISH HER WITH LUXURY.If she went out and hustled up the money on her own,that's one thing.And you wouldn't find MJ trying to get half of it,that's for damn sure.


None of those women deserve a dime of the man's money.Notice how the rich guy isn't trying to snag money from the woman...rich or not.Yeah.That's a pattern.And even if he did? He doesn't deserve a damn dime of HER money.Somehow,though,people are intellectually insufficient enough to think that it's okay for the woman...WHOEVER SHE MAY BE...to snag half of the man's belongings,HOWEVER MUCH SHE DIDN'T DO TO EARN IT.My response to that?

HELL NO GETCHA OWN DOUGH.

Point blank.


ENDETH ILLUMINATION


If you were married and you and your wife were getting a divorce you would leave her with nothing while you basked in your riches? Two of their kids are still in high school what about their standards of living? Its not like they are going to be with Mike all the time, and probably not even half of the time. Seventeen years of helping to uphold his family man image is worth something, and so is having his children. Somehow though,some people are intellectually insufficient enough to think that Juanita deserves nothing.

Don't act like you don't hear about men going after their rich wives & girlfriends money because if you haven't then you must live under a rock, Darling.




Hahahahaha,I LIKE that response BarbaraB! However...

In the issue of the 17 year olds? Yeah,I did half the work of the fathering aspect plus ALL THE MONEY MAKING.So NO she doesn't deserve half of the 300 million.If she did all the money making and half of the parenting? Yeah,not many people would argue that she shouldn't keep her money.In my previous posts,I listed how I emphatically think that Beyonce is entitled to every penny she has earned through her record sales,no matter who she marries,and whomever is her husband doesn't deserve a single peso of her income.Becase SHE earned it,not him.Same with Oprah,Madonna,Martha Stewart,the girls on THE VIEW or whatever that show's called,and the whole crew of independent women.

And YEP, there ARE raggedy men whom try to leech off of their women *cough cough KEVIN FEDERLINE cough cough*.But these sorry ragamuffins are the exception.And I think that they deserve NADA.

Back to the seventeen year olds...yeah,Juanita should deserve some form of compensation for that.As I stated earlier in my posts,a cool million dollars for turning down the sheets with the greatest bball player EVER and having his kids? That's literally Lottery money,and she should be happy to get it.I honestly think that a million bucks is more than a bit excessive,because...does it really take a million bucks to raise kids? Nope.If they need something,they can ask MJ.Hell,they might LIVE with him,and that way they would receive the best of everything.Live with MJ,visit Juanita.I think that she should honestly get MAX about half a million bucks.Don't sneer.I sorta kinda think that a half million bucks plus a round promoting her book called something like THE GAME YOU DIDN'T SEE would give her stupid levels of cash.So half a million bucks plus putting her name out there promoting works that she ACTUALLY DID and can ACTUALLY CLAIM CAME FROM HER OWN EFFORTS,and NOT basically bumming off of her husband.So go with half a million to about a million... given MJ's income? One million out of three hundred million seems about right...

And let's stop all this noise about Juanita being there from the beginning.There was only ONE person who was with MJ from the beginning,and you know who it was? MICHAEL JORDAN.As a child,MJ excelled in sports.As a child,he determined to make sports his way of life.Where was Juanita when MJ was in preschool or elementary or junior high or high school? Nowhere to be found.So she WASN'T at the beginning.Only MJ was.She met MJ in college,right? College is MOST DEFINITELY NOT THE BEGINNING.God blessed him with G.O.A.T. potential and the never-say-die ferocious demonic work ethic and unconquerable spirit that he displayed throughout his career.We ever see Juanita rise like a projectile missile and bring the thunder funk on Manute Bol or Mtumbo or anybody? Did we all excitedly jabber about the possibility of MJ facing MAGIC and the LAKERS in the NBA FINALS? Oh...we weren't givin a damn about Juanita then,were we? We were talking about MICHAEL.He was the one that got our hearts racing and imagination triple pumping into overdrive and awakening the inspiration to fly and BE LIKE MIKE...I WANNA BE LIKE MIKE.I don't wanna be like Juanita. I WANNA BE LIKE MIKE.

We are going overboard here with all the empathy and sympathy for the wives of superstar athletes...we're making far too many assumptions here.

Do we know if Juanita was gettin freaky with others? NOPE. Do we know if MJ was? NOPE,we only know what THE MEDIA SAYS.You know,that trustworthy media which NEVER bandies about racial stereotypes and stuff and which brought us debacles like the OJ case and many others.We can trust them.Jenn even has a link to YAAMS about how trustworthy they are.

That was sarcasm,by the way,and in no way intended to be disrespectful to women at all.But the points I made are quite valid.

Martha Stewart shouldn't have to part with a fraction of a peso to someone whom didn't come up with a single printing pattern or whatever for her company.That's like saying that--Panther God forfend--if Ororo and Tchalla break up,well...SHE DESERVES HALF OF WAKANDA.That's literally that kind of mindblowing dooficity that we are annointing here.Clearly preposterous.

Take a half a million to a million and bounce.It was hard on BOTH sides,I'm sure of it...but 150 million dollars? You can buy up all the top hitmen on the East Coast and from the former Soviet Union COMBINED for LESS THAN THAT.

I'm going to end this discussion between you and I here because I just realized that I'm putting a lot of thought into something that affects me in no way. I just came from the casino around the corner from me and damn near skipped home all because I played 15.00 in the slots and won 5. and here I am discussing Juanita and Mike's MILLIONS.

Thanks for killing my gambling buzz Supreme :P
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: zulu801 on April 23, 2007, 04:52:49 am
whatever the laws in the state of IL say about of divorce settlements IS the law (like it or not) and if a wife or husband can get the most from soon-2B-X that has the $$$$$$, well it is what it is.  On the radio yesterday a woman caller said that JJ should get more than what she may be getting and then some.  I had to turn the station after hearing that BS. 

the law stinks but you got to do what ya gotta
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Catch22 on April 23, 2007, 06:59:54 am
f course the law stinks!  No one should get half of someone's assets unless they worked TOGETHER to make that money.  Jordan was in the league for 6 or 7 years and already had a huge Nike contract before they met.  She didn't help build Brand Jordan.  She didn't shoot one jump shot, she didn't make one Gatorade commercial.  No one's going to tell me that she cooked and cleaned and took care of those kids all by herself.  If he's worth $300 million she had LOADS of help.  Hell, I guess the nanny, the cook, the maid, the driver, and the butler should get a small cut, too following that logic.  If the shoe was on the other foot, I'd be saying the same thing.  Bobby shouldn't get a dime from Whitney and he probably won't because he's a man...and a dope fiend.  Federline shouldn't have gotten a cent from Britney...who knew he was the more stable of the two?  Unless there's blood, sweat and tears from both parties, there should be an amicable settlement, but half is ridiculous!
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: zulu801 on April 23, 2007, 01:20:26 pm
f course the law stinks!  No one should get half of someone's assets unless they worked TOGETHER to make that money.  Jordan was in the league for 6 or 7 years and already had a huge Nike contract before they met.  She didn't help build Brand Jordan.  She didn't shoot one jump shot, she didn't make one Gatorade commercial.  No one's going to tell me that she cooked and cleaned and took care of those kids all by herself.  If he's worth $300 million she had LOADS of help.  Hell, I guess the nanny, the cook, the maid, the driver, and the butler should get a small cut, too following that logic.  If the shoe was on the other foot, I'd be saying the same thing.  Bobby shouldn't get a dime from Whitney and he probably won't because he's a man...and a dope fiend.  Federline shouldn't have gotten a cent from Britney...who knew he was the more stable of the two?  Unless there's blood, sweat and tears from both parties, there should be an amicable settlement, but half is ridiculous!

there should be a law that states, in detail, "amicable" settlement bcuz within a lot of states after X amount of years, regardless if a spouse is/was with someone for y amount of years, when a person was or was not wealthy at the start of their marriage,  states say that a person can get 1/2. 
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on April 23, 2007, 01:41:21 pm
Y'all ever heard of a prenuptial agreement?   Without one of those:  "For better or worse.  For richer or poorer..."
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: bluezulu on April 23, 2007, 03:22:46 pm
If ferderline doesn't get mack or pimp of the year then they need to define the term. He basically  has become a millionair for doing nothing but laying pipe, only in America indeed.



mj showing he is broke up over the break up. :D

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Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: D- Ruck on April 24, 2007, 06:43:22 pm
If you dont' like the 50/50 thing, don't get married. 
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Magic Wand on April 24, 2007, 10:19:09 pm
Some of y'all make it seem like Mike was out working on the railroad for his millions while his wife just enjoyed the benefits.
Was he digging ditches or busting bricks or something?
No. 
He was playing a game for your entertainment.
He's rewarded handsomely for he game skills.  Silly to me....but I digress.
I'll concede that $150 million seems excessive...to us.  However, it should act as somewhat of a deterent to screwing up the marriage.
Additionally, I will also concede that Juanita will probably be able to get by on the $150 million, however it is inevitable that she'll hafta scale back considerably.

One million dollars is hardly enough for her.  If it were up to me, I'd award her one million for every year they were married, plus an additional million per child.

BTW:  How many of YOU have pre-nuptial agreements?
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Sinister8578 on April 25, 2007, 03:59:46 am
Reading this thread makes one very weary of getting rich and famous. Let alone getting married. Let's say Mike's worth is 300 million. Then she should get 20 million tops. I'm sorry, if you can't scale your life back on that level then you are an idiot. I believe Chris Rock said it best: "When it’s time to get a divorce, women got it made. You go to court, start talkin’ that sh?t. “I’m used to this, I’m used to that. I’m accustomed to this.” What the f*ck is accustomed? Whats that got to do with sh*t? You go to a restaurant, you accustomed to eatin’. You leave, you ain’t eatin’ no more. They don’t owe you a steak. What about what the man’s used to? It might not be money, but during the course of a relationship, a man grows accustomed to a few things. I would love to see a man go to court and say, “Your honor, check this out. I’m accustomed to f*ckin’ her four times a week. Now I feel I should be able to f*ck her at least twice a week. I mean she can have the alimony, but I want some pu$$y payments."

Rather simplistic, but it does gather the point rather well.
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: bluezulu on April 25, 2007, 04:07:27 am
Wow sin/ you presented that very well. If you read it with a chirs rock voice its downright hilarious. :D
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: supreme illuminati on April 27, 2007, 10:36:42 am
Reading this thread makes one very weary of getting rich and famous. Let alone getting married. Let's say Mike's worth is 300 million. Then she should get 20 million tops. I'm sorry, if you can't scale your life back on that level then you are an idiot. I believe Chris Rock said it best: "When it’s time to get a divorce, women got it made. You go to court, start talkin’ that sh?t. “I’m used to this, I’m used to that. I’m accustomed to this.” What the f*ck is accustomed? Whats that got to do with sh*t? You go to a restaurant, you accustomed to eatin’. You leave, you ain’t eatin’ no more. They don’t owe you a steak. What about what the man’s used to? It might not be money, but during the course of a relationship, a man grows accustomed to a few things. I would love to see a man go to court and say, “Your honor, check this out. I’m accustomed to f*ckin’ her four times a week. Now I feel I should be able to f*ck her at least twice a week. I mean she can have the alimony, but I want some pu$$y payments."

Rather simplistic, but it does gather the point rather well.


Aaaaand there ya have it.

And btw...I'm NOT getting married without a prenup.If that means I'm NOT getting married EVER? I'm koo with that.
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Magic Wand on May 01, 2007, 06:52:24 am
It might not be money, but during the course of a relationship, a man grows accustomed to a few things. I would love to see a man go to court and say, “Your honor, check this out. I’m accustomed to f*ckin’ her four times a week. Now I feel I should be able to f*ck her at least twice a week. I mean she can have the alimony, but I want some pu$$y payments."

Rather simplistic, but it does gather the point rather well.

Point well taken.
However, those pu$$y payments usually come free from the ex-wife, at least for a little while.
Moreover, his hoze are happy to pay out on the ex-wife's behalf for a whole lot less!
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: supreme illuminati on May 10, 2007, 12:25:45 am
It might not be money, but during the course of a relationship, a man grows accustomed to a few things. I would love to see a man go to court and say, “Your honor, check this out. I’m accustomed to f*ckin’ her four times a week. Now I feel I should be able to f*ck her at least twice a week. I mean she can have the alimony, but I want some pu$$y payments."

Rather simplistic, but it does gather the point rather well.

Point well taken.
However, those pu$$y payments usually come free from the ex-wife, at least for a little while.
Moreover, his hoze are happy to pay out on the ex-wife's behalf for a whole lot less!


Nah,those pu$$y payments are NEVER free...because she's enjoying the fruits of his labor while she has the MRS. degree,and will sue for half of his net worth in a divorce so that she can continue to enjoy the fruits of his labor.

Let's say that Prince Charles of England becomes King one day.He gets married.He divorces ole gurl years later for whatever reason.Can she claim half of England as her alimony? Hell naw.Same for other people,regardless of their celebrity status or financial position or sex.If the Queen of England got married,and then divorced,the former King of England doesn't get half of England or even half of Buckingham Palace.That would be stupid beyond measure.How come we have such great difficulty seeing the transparency in these issues here in the USA?
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on May 10, 2007, 10:37:19 am
Let's say that Prince Charles of England becomes King one day.He gets married.He divorces ole gurl years later for whatever reason.Can she claim half of England as her alimony? Hell naw.Same for other people,regardless of their celebrity status or financial position or sex.If the Queen of England got married,and then divorced,the former King of England doesn't get half of England or even half of Buckingham Palace.That would be stupid beyond measure.How come we have such great difficulty seeing the transparency in these issues here in the USA?

So now Mike is like royalty?   ???

Of course, I don't think the King owns the assets of the UK. (Wise Son?)  I'm sure Di got herself a nice settlement.

At the end of the day, Johnnie Taylor had it right.  OTOH, I think Mike will be able to get by. 

So, on the real, my brothers, why y'all gettin' so agitated? 
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Cheirel on May 10, 2007, 06:24:06 pm
I have no real problem with her getting half. She was there for every dime he made including the time when there were nomillions. Her life will not be the same. Were's the anger towards homey for pushing her out the door?
And.... I totally agree with Magic 100%
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Magic Wand on May 10, 2007, 07:49:04 pm
Thank you Curtis and Cheirel.
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: Vic Vega on May 11, 2007, 07:51:58 am
Let's say that Prince Charles of England becomes King one day.He gets married.He divorces ole gurl years later for whatever reason.Can she claim half of England as her alimony? Hell naw.Same for other people,regardless of their celebrity status or financial position or sex.If the Queen of England got married,and then divorced,the former King of England doesn't get half of England or even half of Buckingham Palace.That would be stupid beyond measure.How come we have such great difficulty seeing the transparency in these issues here in the USA?

So now Mike is like royalty?   ???

Of course, I don't think the King owns the assets of the UK. (Wise Son?)  I'm sure Di got herself a nice settlement.

At the end of the day, Johnnie Taylor had it right.  OTOH, I think Mike will be able to get by. 

So, on the real, my brothers, why y'all gettin' so agitated? 

Personally, I fear an increase in the cost of sports apparel. :D

 
Title: Re: It's cheaper to keep her
Post by: supreme illuminati on May 11, 2007, 09:35:33 am
Let's say that Prince Charles of England becomes King one day.He gets married.He divorces ole gurl years later for whatever reason.Can she claim half of England as her alimony? Hell naw.Same for other people,regardless of their celebrity status or financial position or sex.If the Queen of England got married,and then divorced,the former King of England doesn't get half of England or even half of Buckingham Palace.That would be stupid beyond measure.How come we have such great difficulty seeing the transparency in these issues here in the USA?

So now Mike is like royalty?   ???

Of course, I don't think the King owns the assets of the UK. (Wise Son?)  I'm sure Di got herself a nice settlement.

At the end of the day, Johnnie Taylor had it right.  OTOH, I think Mike will be able to get by. 

So, on the real, my brothers, why y'all gettin' so agitated? 

Personally, I fear an increase in the cost of sports apparel. :D

 

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