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Title: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Tahdigga on April 27, 2007, 04:21:30 am
I would love to see ma gurl Photon aka Monica Rambeau   kick it with someone....hmmmmm who could fill those shoes? How about Lucas Bishop? She was in law enforcement and so was he. Strong minded characters, both are from big well known superhero teams. She's can become energy based and he can absorb energy. Yeah I think we have a match! This really deserves some exploration. This should be in a upcoming issue in BP and Storms adventures. Bishop would stop in Wakanda to visit Storm to catch up. Monica   would come thru to see the famous couple and hit the heavy bag with BP. OH YEAH! I like the sound of this!(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l251/tahdigga/photonavi.gif)(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l251/tahdigga/bishopavi.gif)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: KIP LEWIS on April 27, 2007, 05:05:47 am
Mr. Terrific. 

Honestly, she needs someone new; none of them are right from her; but if I HAD TO pick one; Jim Rhodes.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on April 27, 2007, 05:25:54 am
I voted for Bishop.

Now, if he isn't currently dating that black detective (somebody help me out with that lady's name if you please), or becoming cozy with Valerie Cooper (?)....or even Sage, he would would be the most suitable suitor for Photon. This situation could get messy if Deathbird decides she wants Bishop to be her "consort" afterall and make another baby with her, but it's just a chance we'll have to take.

Falcon, Rage, and the cowardly and just all-around annoying War Machine are "elimidated". Ty Johnson is too young for Photon. Although Marvel doesn't seem to want to pull the trigger all the way on this - they did in the "Misadventures of Cloak and Dagger" some years back - it seems inevitable that Cloak and Dagger will either have to become romantically involved or have their story adjusted so that Tandy Bowen loses her power to some other female who would then become the "new" Dagger and Cloak's love interest. I don't know who Hybrid is. I am pink with embarrassment. :-[

Battlestar is powerful, but just doesn't seem to make the match.

Blade is bad by his ownself.  8)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Tahdigga on April 27, 2007, 05:46:56 am
I voted for Bishop.

Now, if he isn't currently dating that black detective (somebody help me out with that lady's name if you please), or becoming cozy with Valerie Cooper (?)....or even Sage, he would would be the most suitable suitor for Photon. This situation could get messy if Deathbird decides she wants Bishop to be her "consort" afterall and make another baby with her, but it's just a chance we'll have to take.

Falcon, Rage, and the cowardly and just all-around annoying War Machine are "elimidated". Ty Johnson is too young for Photon. Although Marvel doesn't seem to want to pull the trigger all the way on this - they did in the "Misadventures of Cloak and Dagger" some years back - it seems inevitable that Cloak and Dagger will either have to become romantically involved or have their story adjusted so that Tandy Bowen loses her power to some other female who would then become the "new" Dagger and Cloak's love interest. I don't know who Hybrid is. I am pink with embarrassment. :-[

Battlestar is powerful, but just doesn't seem to make the match.

Blade is bad by his ownself.  8)



Is Cloak a teenager still? Many haven't heard of Hybrid. This is a chance for me to shine some light on him.  ;)
Hybrid is the amalgamation of four of the Life Foundation Symbiotes (Riot, Phage, Lasher, and Agony) - whose hosts were killed by Scream - into a single symbiote entity.
The fused symbiote then sought out Scott Washington, an African-American man who was a Guardsman at the Vault (the prison for supervillains) lab facility.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/brownfox59/Hybrid1.jpg)

Like Spider-Man and Venom, Hybrid has wall-crawling and web-slinging abilities, he can form his symbiote into pseudopodia or tendrils creating snares and bladed weapons.

The symbiote also has camouflage abilities and can blend in with its surroundings. It can also mimic clothing. Hybrid has a border-line warning sense and can "see" through his symbiote.

He also possesses some degree of superhuman strength. He can also detach a piece of his symbiote to send messages to his friends and allies, and he can shape his symbiote to form a membrane that allows him to glide through the air. He was also with the New Warriors for a time.

No Battlestar? How about Elijah 'Eli' Bradley aka Patriot?
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Mastrmynd on April 27, 2007, 06:45:02 am
my first thought was Sam Wilson.
Don't know how long it would last, but sam seems so much better for her.
shucks, bishop would be too busy talkin' about his past which is her future.
that's never fun!
plus he doesnt look like the talkin' kind.

in the heat of passion, he might call her shard and that would spoil the mood.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Catch22 on April 27, 2007, 07:21:22 am
I had to go with The Falcon.  He seems like nicer fit for Monica than any of the others.  Bishop would love to get with her so he could use her as a power battery and the others are either too under developed, too young or both.  The Falcon's courageous, a man of his people and is strong and confident enough to deal with a woman at an omega power level.  Give the Falcon and Monica a chance!!  It's for Samica or Falton or Moncon or FalMon or oooh...Samon!! :D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on April 27, 2007, 11:13:44 am
It's for Samica or Falton or Moncon or FalMon or oooh...Samon!! :D

Just make sure that you capitalize the first initial of Monica's name in every one of your appellations. Otherwise, you could incur the wrath of the Monica Rambeau fans for not doing so.

You hit it right with "FalMon", but you slipped and became lax with "Samica", "Samon", and "Falton". "Moncon" doesn't matter. Falcon fans might not be as sensitive to seeing the part of his name in lowercase  ;)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Catch22 on April 27, 2007, 11:16:14 am
Dang...why do the Photon-ites have to be so sensitive? ;D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: stanleyballard on April 27, 2007, 11:29:44 am
Monica and Bishop already had a scene together fighting....it's a great start!
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on April 27, 2007, 11:30:42 am
Dang...why do the Photon-ites have to be so sensitive? ;D

Photon - sensitive...

...now you've got me associating the beauteous Monica Rambeau with the song "Sensitivity" sang by the late, great Luther Vandross. The melody brings to mind pleasant images of a relaxed Monica Rambeau dancing happily and enjoying life....no "Photon business" to distract her from the pleasantry.

If Sam Wilson happens to be able to sing like the late, great Luthor Vandross and decides to croon songs of love to Monica, then it's all over. Bishop, Battlestar, War Machine (bleh), and the rest are just sad also-rans  :)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Vic Vega on April 27, 2007, 11:41:22 am
Rhodes hit on her (as Iron Man) and was turned down flat during Secret Wars 1.

Last I checked, Bishop has Deathbird(!) and Val Cooper checking him out.

Josiah X, maybe?

That courtship would be pretty interesting as I doubt she'd be willing to convert for him (or anybody).

Romantic battles of wills are always fun to read about.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Catch22 on April 27, 2007, 11:42:57 am
Monica and Bishop already had a scene together fighting....it's a great start!

Yeah, but weren't the fighting each other?  That's no way to start a relationship...her kicking the hell out of him! ;D


Dang...why do the Photon-ites have to be so sensitive? ;D

Photon - sensitive...

...now you've got me associating the beauteous Monica Rambeau with the song "Sensitivity" sang by the late, great Luther Vandross. The melody brings to mind pleasant images of a relaxed Monica Rambeau dancing happily and enjoying life....no "Photon business" to distract her from the pleasantry.

If Sam Wilson happens to be able to sing like the late, great Luthor Vandross and decides to croon songs of love to Monica, then it's all over. Bishop, Battlestar, War Machine (bleh), and the rest are just sad also-rans  :)

Then basically, we're in agreement.  Marvel must make SaMon (happy?) HAPPEN!! :D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on April 27, 2007, 11:47:05 am
Rhodes hit on her (as Iron Man) and was turned down flat.

Good! Monica Rambeau's decision to allow Rhodes no play shows good judgement on her part.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on April 27, 2007, 11:49:32 am
Dang...why do the Photon-ites have to be so sensitive? ;D

Photon - sensitive...

...now you've got me associating the beauteous Monica Rambeau with the song "Sensitivity" sang by the late, great Luther Vandross. The melody brings to mind pleasant images of a relaxed Monica Rambeau dancing happily and enjoying life....no "Photon business" to distract her from the pleasantry.

If Sam Wilson happens to be able to sing like the late, great Luthor Vandross and decides to croon songs of love to Monica, then it's all over. Bishop, Battlestar, War Machine (bleh), and the rest are just sad also-rans  :)

Then basically, we're in agreement.  Marvel must make SaMon (happy?) HAPPEN!! :D

Just so long as it isn't "Grotty Rhodey" I'll be a happy sinjection.  ;)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Catch22 on April 27, 2007, 11:56:09 am
Dang...why do the Photon-ites have to be so sensitive? ;D

Photon - sensitive...

...now you've got me associating the beauteous Monica Rambeau with the song "Sensitivity" sang by the late, great Luther Vandross. The melody brings to mind pleasant images of a relaxed Monica Rambeau dancing happily and enjoying life....no "Photon business" to distract her from the pleasantry.

If Sam Wilson happens to be able to sing like the late, great Luthor Vandross and decides to croon songs of love to Monica, then it's all over. Bishop, Battlestar, War Machine (bleh), and the rest are just sad also-rans  :)

Then basically, we're in agreement.  Marvel must make SaMon (happy?) HAPPEN!! :D

Just so long as it isn't "Grotty Rhodey" I'll be a happy sinjection.  ;)


You don't have to worry about that...here's how a scene with Rhodey and Monica would play out these days....


At a get together at Stark Tower...


Rhodey:  Sista!  Bringer of Light! Mother of the Earth!!

Photon:  How are you Rhodey.

Rhodey:  I am in awe of you, my queen.  Mistress of the primal forces of Nature!! 

Photon:  Thank you, Rhodey...is there something I can do for you?

Rhodey:  Umm, yeah...can you tap that white girl behind you?


:D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Vic Vega on April 27, 2007, 12:00:16 pm
Dang...why do the Photon-ites have to be so sensitive? ;D

Photon - sensitive...

...now you've got me associating the beauteous Monica Rambeau with the song "Sensitivity" sang by the late, great Luther Vandross. The melody brings to mind pleasant images of a relaxed Monica Rambeau dancing happily and enjoying life....no "Photon business" to distract her from the pleasantry.

If Sam Wilson happens to be able to sing like the late, great Luthor Vandross and decides to croon songs of love to Monica, then it's all over. Bishop, Battlestar, War Machine (bleh), and the rest are just sad also-rans  :)

Then basically, we're in agreement.  Marvel must make SaMon (happy?) HAPPEN!! :D

Just so long as it isn't "Grotty Rhodey" I'll be a happy sinjection.  ;)


You don't have to worry about that...here's how a scene with Rhodey and Monica would play out these days....


At a get together at Stark Tower...


Rhodey:  Sista!  Bringer of Light! Mother of the Earth!!

Photon:  How are you Rhodey.

Rhodey:  I am in awe of you, my queen.  Mistress of the primal forces of Nature!! 

Photon:  Thank you, Rhodey...is there something I can do for you?

Rhodey:  Umm, yeah...can you tap that white girl behind you?


:D

 ;D ;D ;D

You're familar with the character I see. Ha!
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Catch22 on April 27, 2007, 12:03:37 pm
I've read an issue or three! :D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: JRCarter on April 27, 2007, 12:04:18 pm
Rhodey's dated sisters before. He was with a sister back in the eighties.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Vic Vega on April 27, 2007, 12:12:21 pm
Rhodey's dated sisters before. He was with a sister back in the eighties.

Yeah I know, but apparently he let getting a solo book in thr 90's go to his head. :D

You know how it goes a brotha gets his own book, gets hisself a White love intrest.

Next thing you know he stops returning the Falcon's phone calls.

The Brotha's lost, I tell you, lost. :D :D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Mastrmynd on April 27, 2007, 12:35:03 pm
hahahahaah....
that was funny stuff, vic.
funny stuff!
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Catch22 on April 27, 2007, 12:36:37 pm
Rhodey's dated sisters before. He was with a sister back in the eighties.

Yeah I know, but apparently he let getting a solo book in thr 90's go to his head. :D

You know how it goes a brotha gets his own book, gets hisself a White love intrest.

Next thing you know he stops returning the Falcon's phone calls.

The Brotha's lost, I tell you, lost. :D :D


And there you have it!!  Broke it down like a true Hud-Rat! ;D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: PFunk on April 28, 2007, 02:00:48 am
I voted for other.  Namely that black FBI agent (freeman something I think) that monica had her eye on when she was in the avengers (when she was captain marvel).  But if I had to choose from the list then Falcon/Sam would be my choice for her.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: KIP LEWIS on April 28, 2007, 05:06:47 am
I can't believe you guys put Bishop and Monica together.  I mean, yes, they are both Cops, but his power is to eat her--and not in a fun way.  I mean, figeratively speaking, powerwise they are fire and water.

And then Falcon and Moncia?  I suppose, but again, she is a cop and he is a social worker.  I don't know if their world views would let them be together.  But it could make for some interesting stories.

Battlestar?  I like the dude, but he is such a bit player, he isn't deserving of her, but persona wise, maybe so.

Blade? is there anything in his life besides the mission.  He'd marry her just to have a solar powered weapon at his side, but beyond that, no, Monica deserves someone who would want her for herself, not her powers.

Cloak and Rage are too young.  Don't know Hybird.

Again, I think the idea of a new person.  (But Battlestar could grow on me.)

Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: KIP LEWIS on April 28, 2007, 05:10:09 am
No Battlestar? How about Elijah 'Eli' Bradley aka Patriot?

Isn't he like 16 or 17 years old?

Now, his uncle--Josiah X, but would he marry a Cop/HATE Agent; i.e., someone who works for the establishment most of her life?  (Hmm, that does beg the question, but I will start a new thread for this, bc it is off topic.)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Blanks on April 28, 2007, 07:16:23 am
I thought that Falcon was with that Hispanic Shield agent from the last Captain America and the Falcon series by Priest. Or did that not go anywhere? And as for Rhodney, he was with either a Black woman or a Hispanic woman in the end of the Crew mini-series.

I voted other. Bring in a new black character!
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Marvelous on April 28, 2007, 10:29:14 am
LOGAN!   ;)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: jominick on April 28, 2007, 10:59:20 am
Bishop is a good one for her.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Pantherfan on April 28, 2007, 11:43:01 am
I remember back in the eighties when Roger Stern was writing the Avengers he was going to have Cage join the team and be the love interest of Monica but Stern was taken off the book before this could happen. I wonder if Cage and Monica were paired, how that relationship would work out?

On another note, I wouldn't mind seeing Brother Voodoo and Monica Rambeau hook up.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: The Evasive 1 on April 28, 2007, 01:30:25 pm
LOGAN!   ;)


WTF?!?!?!

(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p182/clarkebr/sanjuro4.jpg)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Toya on April 28, 2007, 03:38:51 pm
LOGAN!   ;)

Excellent choice! ;D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Tahdigga on April 28, 2007, 05:12:22 pm
LOGAN!   ;)


Excellent choice! ;D


(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l251/tahdigga/O_RLY__by_KatzMotel.jpg)
Not it's not!
Please stop lying to Marvelous!

Bishop is the man for her
!

(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l251/tahdigga/bishop5.gif)

For those of you saying Bishop is a bad choice because of his powers. Know that he wouldn't need her powers, to use his own.

Bishop's mutant ability enables him to absorb all forms of radiant or conductive energy either ambient energy or that directed towards him, and to project that energy from his body in the form of concussive blasts. Bishop can also store absorbed energy within his personal reserves.

If they do hook up, as a couple they become a team like BP and Storm. If Bishop needs help I'm sure Monica would be there to lend a hand and vice versa
.(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l251/tahdigga/photonavi.gif)(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l251/tahdigga/bishopavi.gif)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Toya on April 28, 2007, 07:21:08 pm
LOGAN!   ;)


Excellent choice! ;D


([url]http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l251/tahdigga/O_RLY__by_KatzMotel.jpg[/url])
Not it's not!
Please stop lying to Marvelous!

Bishop is the man for her
!


YA RLY, Wolverine is always an excellent choice.  8)

Quote
For those of you saying Bishop is a bad choice because of his powers. Know that he wouldn't need her powers, to use his own.

Bishop's mutant ability enables him to absorb all forms of radiant or conductive energy either ambient energy or that directed towards him, and to project that energy from his body in the form of concussive blasts. Bishop can also store absorbed energy within his personal reserves.

If they do hook up, as a couple they become a team like BP and Storm. If Bishop needs help I'm sure Monica would be there to lend a hand and vice versa
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That's all good and everything but what will happen when Aaron comes looking for his woman? Robot with scissor hands>Guy with energy blaster hands.

And it's too bad BP is taken, they could have developed a "Monica" fetish with him... ;D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on April 29, 2007, 04:21:57 am
And it's too bad BP is taken, they could have developed a "Monica" fetish with him... ;D

Monica is a beautiful, lyrical name as most feminine names are.

The name Monica even looks good on Monica Lewisnky  ;)

LoganLOVESCallistoFOREVER,FOREVERandFOREVERMORE!!!!!

That is a love connection that MUST BE!

I propose LoCal - as in low calorie, get it?  :) - LoCal, Hooray!!!!  RoLo, Boo! Hissssss!! No Way!!!!!
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: KIP LEWIS on April 29, 2007, 05:39:23 am
For those of you saying Bishop is a bad choice because of his powers. Know that he wouldn't need her powers, to use his own.

Bishop's mutant ability enables him to absorb all forms of radiant or conductive energy either ambient energy or that directed towards him, and to project that energy from his body in the form of concussive blasts. Bishop can also store absorbed energy within his personal reserves.

If they do hook up, as a couple they become a team like BP and Storm. If Bishop needs help I'm sure Monica would be there to lend a hand and vice versa


The thing that makes me avoid this is that his powers might very well kill her.  In the BP issue, Black Panther had Monica shift energy forms quickly to prevent Bishop from absorbing her energy.  If she isn't shifting; and she hits him like she did there; she might be killed by the absorbing process.   

True, we can't say this for sure, until someone writes a story one way or another, but it is very possible that Bishop could be fatal to Monica.  (And in a fight situation; there is no way to guarntee that he wouldn't "eat" her, unintentionally.)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on April 29, 2007, 07:13:33 am
For those of you saying Bishop is a bad choice because of his powers. Know that he wouldn't need her powers, to use his own.

Bishop's mutant ability enables him to absorb all forms of radiant or conductive energy either ambient energy or that directed towards him, and to project that energy from his body in the form of concussive blasts. Bishop can also store absorbed energy within his personal reserves.

If they do hook up, as a couple they become a team like BP and Storm. If Bishop needs help I'm sure Monica would be there to lend a hand and vice versa


The thing that makes me avoid this is that his powers might very well kill her.  In the BP issue, Black Panther had Monica shift energy forms quickly to prevent Bishop from absorbing her energy.  If she isn't shifting; and she hits him like she did there; she might be killed by the absorbing process.   

True, we can't say this for sure, until someone writes a story one way or another, but it is very possible that Bishop could be fatal to Monica.  (And in a fight situation; there is no way to guarntee that he wouldn't "eat" her, unintentionally.)

Waitaminnit, waitaminnit, waitaminnit!!!

How is it that Bishop could kill Photon by successfully absorbing all of her power, but could not do the same to Cyclops?

Some long while back, the incomparable Mastrmynd told me of a time when Cyclops attacked Bishop using his optic blast. To the best of my knowledge, Cyclop's blast is composed of one specific form of energy. There isn't any shifting from one form of energy to another in the nature of Cyclop's power. MM told me that it was Cyclops, not Bishop, who got the better of that exchange. Apparently, Bishop was unable to contain the full measure of Cyclop's power.

Now it seems to me that Photon's power may in fact be greater than that possessed by Cyclops. How then could it be possible for Bishop to drain Photon to the point of death while not being able to do the same to Cyclops?
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Mastrmynd on April 29, 2007, 02:14:38 pm
i agree with his statement.
this attack took place during the 4 issue xmen frontline stories.

and i thought cyclops was pure concussive force?
did that ever change?

either way, bishop took a full blast from cyclops and kinda overloaded him.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Toya on April 29, 2007, 03:27:30 pm
And it's too bad BP is taken, they could have developed a "Monica" fetish with him... ;D

Monica is a beautiful, lyrical name as most feminine names are.

The name Monica even looks good on Monica Lewisnky  ;)

LoganLOVESCallistoFOREVER,FOREVERandFOREVERMORE!!!!!

That is a love connection that MUST BE!

I propose LoCal - as in low calorie, get it?  :) - LoCal, Hooray!!!!  RoLo, Boo! Hissssss!! No Way!!!!!

No matter who the chick is, Logan is always an excellent choice. ;D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: KIP LEWIS on April 29, 2007, 04:38:36 pm
Waitaminnit, waitaminnit, waitaminnit!!!

How is it that Bishop could kill Photon by successfully absorbing all of her power, but could not do the same to Cyclops?

Some long while back, the incomparable Mastrmynd told me of a time when Cyclops attacked Bishop using his optic blast. To the best of my knowledge, Cyclop's blast is composed of one specific form of energy. There isn't any shifting from one form of energy to another in the nature of Cyclop's power. MM told me that it was Cyclops, not Bishop, who got the better of that exchange. Apparently, Bishop was unable to contain the full measure of Cyclop's power.

Now it seems to me that Photon's power may in fact be greater than that possessed by Cyclops. How then could it be possible for Bishop to drain Photon to the point of death while not being able to do the same to Cyclops?

And then in another issue, Storm channels the forces of creation into Bishop (and listening to Rutog you know how much power she can dish out) and he amplies her power and feeds it to Sage who feeds it to Marvel Girl. 

So, I think there are two issues at question here:  1) absorbing and holding vs absorbing and channeling.  If he just tries to absorb and hold the energy, she could overload him; but if he is absorbing and tranforming it and firing it, then he can take a lot more.  If I remember the Cyclops' thing, he was trying to absorb and hold the energy.

And second, Monica's power levels are determined by her will.  She can generate enough power to hurt Zeus, but I don't think he every energy form has that much power, so she could fly through him in simple light form with a lot less power than she is capable of generating and that might be fatal.

Once, Monica once turned into lightning and accidently fired millions of gallons of water.  It nearly killed her, draining off (i.e., absorbing) so much energy that all that was left of her was skin and bones.

But like I said, he MIGHT BE fatal to her.  Until that issue is settled, i'd rather find someone else. 
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on April 29, 2007, 06:22:33 pm
And it's too bad BP is taken, they could have developed a "Monica" fetish with him... ;D

Monica is a beautiful, lyrical name as most feminine names are.

The name Monica even looks good on Monica Lewisnky  ;)

LoganLOVESCallistoFOREVER,FOREVERandFOREVERMORE!!!!!

That is a love connection that MUST BE!

I propose LoCal - as in low calorie, get it?  :) - LoCal, Hooray!!!!  RoLo, Boo! Hissssss!! No Way!!!!!

No matter who the chick is, Logan is always an excellent choice. ;D

Logan and Callisto!

Logan and Madam Web!

Logan and Agatha Harkness!

Logan and Epoch!

That's quite a harem for him. Don't you think?  :D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Toya on April 29, 2007, 07:19:01 pm
And it's too bad BP is taken, they could have developed a "Monica" fetish with him... ;D

Monica is a beautiful, lyrical name as most feminine names are.

The name Monica even looks good on Monica Lewisnky  ;)

LoganLOVESCallistoFOREVER,FOREVERandFOREVERMORE!!!!!

That is a love connection that MUST BE!

I propose LoCal - as in low calorie, get it?  :) - LoCal, Hooray!!!!  RoLo, Boo! Hissssss!! No Way!!!!!

No matter who the chick is, Logan is always an excellent choice. ;D

Logan and Callisto!

Logan and Madam Web!

Logan and Agatha Harkness!


Logan and Epoch!

That's quite a harem for him. Don't you think?  :D

 :D :D Why not? Wolvie can be gentle.

C'mon Monica has a thing for guys who carry sharp objects in their hands. And don't tell me you haven't heard of "Avengers with benefits".  ;D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on April 29, 2007, 08:38:02 pm
And it's too bad BP is taken, they could have developed a "Monica" fetish with him... ;D

Monica is a beautiful, lyrical name as most feminine names are.

The name Monica even looks good on Monica Lewisnky  ;)

LoganLOVESCallistoFOREVER,FOREVERandFOREVERMORE!!!!!

That is a love connection that MUST BE!

I propose LoCal - as in low calorie, get it?  :) - LoCal, Hooray!!!!  RoLo, Boo! Hissssss!! No Way!!!!!

No matter who the chick is, Logan is always an excellent choice. ;D

Logan and Callisto!

Logan and Madam Web!

Logan and Agatha Harkness!


Logan and Epoch!

That's quite a harem for him. Don't you think?  :D

 :D :D Why not? Wolvie can be gentle.

C'mon Monica has a thing for guys who carry sharp objects in their hands. And don't tell me you haven't heard of "Avengers with benefits".  ;D

But does Monica have a thing for guys who are so short and furry that they resemble a hamster exposed to and mutated by gamma radiation, or so fuzzy that he looks and smells like that moldy stuff some people forget about and leave in the dark, dank recesses of their basements or cellars?

The only "benefits" old man Logan could possibly have are retirement benefits. Monica needs a young, vital, handsome, clean and fragrant man. She doesn't need some male creature who would be quite at home in any "I Was A 2,000 Year Old Werewolf" or "I Was A Midget Bigfoot With Elvis Presley Sideburns And A Bozo The Clown Haircut" movie  :D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: PFunk on April 29, 2007, 09:20:29 pm
LOGAN!   ;)

Excuse me but...

Hommie pleasz!!!!  You should be slapped for even posting that.

Either hook her up with that black FBI agent or get he a new love interrest (preferably someone non-powered).
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Marvelous on April 30, 2007, 03:30:18 am
LoMo, I like the sound of that.   :D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on April 30, 2007, 04:15:06 am
LoMo, I like the sound of that.   :D


No mo' LoMo. I like the sound of that even better. However, this is by far the best! "LoMo is el' loco!"   ;)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Toya on April 30, 2007, 01:00:52 pm
LoMo, I like the sound of that.   :D

LoMo does have a nice ring to it.  ;D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Toya on April 30, 2007, 01:03:16 pm
And it's too bad BP is taken, they could have developed a "Monica" fetish with him... ;D

Monica is a beautiful, lyrical name as most feminine names are.

The name Monica even looks good on Monica Lewisnky  ;)

LoganLOVESCallistoFOREVER,FOREVERandFOREVERMORE!!!!!

That is a love connection that MUST BE!

I propose LoCal - as in low calorie, get it?  :) - LoCal, Hooray!!!!  RoLo, Boo! Hissssss!! No Way!!!!!

No matter who the chick is, Logan is always an excellent choice. ;D

Logan and Callisto!

Logan and Madam Web!

Logan and Agatha Harkness!


Logan and Epoch!

That's quite a harem for him. Don't you think?  :D

 :D :D Why not? Wolvie can be gentle.

C'mon Monica has a thing for guys who carry sharp objects in their hands. And don't tell me you haven't heard of "Avengers with benefits".  ;D

But does Monica have a thing for guys who are so short and furry that they resemble a hamster exposed to and mutated by gamma radiation, or so fuzzy that he looks and smells like that moldy stuff some people forget about and leave in the dark, dank recesses of their basements or cellars?

The only "benefits" old man Logan could possibly have are retirement benefits. Monica needs a young, vital, handsome, clean and fragrant man. She doesn't need some male creature who would be quite at home in any "I Was A 2,000 Year Old Werewolf" or "I Was A Midget Bigfoot With Elvis Presley Sideburns And A Bozo The Clown Haircut" movie  :D

LOLoMo. :D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: The Evasive 1 on April 30, 2007, 04:02:42 pm
And it's too bad BP is taken, they could have developed a "Monica" fetish with him... ;D

Monica is a beautiful, lyrical name as most feminine names are.

The name Monica even looks good on Monica Lewisnky  ;)

LoganLOVESCallistoFOREVER,FOREVERandFOREVERMORE!!!!!

That is a love connection that MUST BE!

I propose LoCal - as in low calorie, get it?  :) - LoCal, Hooray!!!!  RoLo, Boo! Hissssss!! No Way!!!!!

No matter who the chick is, Logan is always an excellent choice. ;D

Oh Dear Lord, no.  :P
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Tahdigga on April 30, 2007, 08:03:11 pm
Cloak would be my second choice.(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/brownfox59/cloakpic3.jpg)
He has to be an adult by now!
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on April 30, 2007, 08:05:32 pm
But isn't he still a...creep?  Non verbal lurker, wordlessly pining after the white princess?
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Tahdigga on April 30, 2007, 08:24:37 pm
He just needs a taste of black light ;)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: GrimSkill on April 30, 2007, 09:06:40 pm
Black light....... ;D ;D ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: KIP LEWIS on May 01, 2007, 04:50:05 am
Cloak would be my second choice.
He has to be an adult by now!

Yeah, he should be an adult, since Katie of the Power Pack is an adult.  (Of course, if she is an adult, Rage should be too, because she was younger than him.)

But your first choice is Bishop, an energy absorber and your second choice is Cloak, a guy who "eats" light to stay sane?  You just want a male who can absorb Monica, don't you?  :)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on May 01, 2007, 11:36:39 am
I hate to seem like an age bigot or something - I'm positive you will find that is EXACTLY how I'm going to look as this post continues - but the reason why I can't see Cloak with Monica is the same reason why I didn't particularly like the James Hudson/Heather Hudson relationship (he in his later 20's possibly early 30's and she probably as young as 16 or 17 at the time their love story bloomed). It is the same reason why I felt somewhat disgusted by Prof. X's in what might have been his one-time romantic interest in Jean Grey, a girl he first met when he had to have been in his 30s while she was a mere girl of 10.

The reason I would rather see Monica with either Bishop or Falcon instead of Cloak is the same reason I didn't like seeing old man Namor (John Byrne's run with the character), trying pursue a romantic relationship with Carrie Alexander, daughter of Caleb Alexander. The fact that Namor was white and Carrie was black bothered me not at all. What bothered me was that Carrie - while an adult - seemed to be a naive innocent and Namor was a very much older, womanizing monarch probably some 60 years her senior. I don't like seeing Paige Guthrie (Husk), with Warren Worthington (Archangel) because of the signifcant difference between their ages and as many of you know so well, I'm loathe to see the ancient Wolverine with anyone born in this century.

I can understand how a man in his late teens, early twenties might jump at the chance to be with someone like Angela Bassett or Halle Berry. I confess to a bias and hypocrisy when I admit that seeing Katie Couric with a younger man or even seeing Mystique hooking up with a younger male character wouldn't bother me as much as seeing 616 Nick Fury - his aging process arrested or slowed by the "Infinity formula" - hooking up romantically with someone like Tandy Bowen (Dagger), or even Jessica Drew (Spider-Woman). In the "Misadventures Of Cloak and Dagger" series, Brigid O'Reilly's partner - Rebecca "Rusty" Nales - tried to pursue a romantic relationship with Cloak who at that time could have been percieved to have been in his late teens and even as old as his mid-twenties. At one point, Cloak was believed by all to be dead when in actuality, he was captured and held under the influence of an hallucinogenic drug which caused hiim to believe that he was a normal man, happily married to a black woman and father of their beautiful 5 or 6 year-old daughter. Still, it seemed to me that Detective Nales might have been as much as 8 - 10 years older than Cloak was at that time.

I still remember Ms Marvel's (now Photon's), origin issue illustrated by John Romita, Sr. and Jr. If I'm not mistaken, at the time of her origin, Cloak and Dagger already existed as characters and were still wet-behind-the-ears teen vigilantes (17 and 16 years of age respectively), while Monica Rambeau was already a gorgeous adult (approximate age 22 - 26), and a competent member of the Coast Guard. Not only do I see the age difference between Monica and Tyrone in a less than favorable light, I see their life experiences as being incompatible as well. Monica is a woman of academic, career and life experience achievement. Tyrone is a bad psychologically scarred high school dropout who ran away from home because he witnessed the horrific killing of his best friend by a police officer. He is plagued with guilt because if he hadn't had a severe stuttering problem, he might have saved his friend's life by being able to complete the statement he was attempting to convey to the trigger-happy cop; "Billy didn't do it!"

Monica should not be in the position of being mother, therapist and lover to a younger man as troubled as Tyrone was at that time and probably - to some extent - to this day.

That said, I'd take Monica/Tyrone over "LoMo" anyday.......Toya!  :D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Mastrmynd on May 01, 2007, 12:35:19 pm
the part of sin's post that I REALLY agreed with was the part about Husk and Angel.
Never did like them 2gether.
Never will.
He's robbin' the cradle and it feels icky.
ewwwwwww.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Frostbite883 on May 01, 2007, 02:23:53 pm
I voted for other.  Namely that black FBI agent (freeman something I think) that monica had her eye on when she was in the avengers (when she was captain marvel).  But if I had to choose from the list then Falcon/Sam would be my choice for her.

His name is Derek Freeman.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Frostbite883 on May 01, 2007, 02:27:44 pm
And as for Rhodney, he was with either a Black woman or a Hispanic woman in the end of the Crew mini-series.

He has/had a black woman in the Crew mini-series.

Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Princesa on May 01, 2007, 03:16:15 pm
At this point I'd rather not see her officially with anyone. For one thing she doesn't get enough play and for another her T'challa crush is cute. If she were with someone I would give her a non-superpowered guy. Maybe a college professor type with some insights on bringing out her abilities or even a tech-guy.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Toya on May 02, 2007, 12:17:15 pm
I know that I was mostly kidding when I said Wolvie should be paired off with Monica and I sure that Marvelous was too. Yet, even if I was serious would he be such a far fetch when compared witht the other choices? I bet if Luke Cage wasn't married and Goliath wasn't dead that they would be listed also.  ::)

That being said, Captain from Nextwave is my official choice for a Monica love interest. They were great in Next Wave.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Hypestyle on May 02, 2007, 12:42:42 pm
But isn't he still a...creep?  Non verbal lurker, wordlessly pining after the white princess?

ah.. that's why we need you to give Cloak a guest spot in Panther (without Dagger), on an influential arc that redefines him beyond the stereotype!

If Cloak were to become politically radical with his powers, he could take out...  (hint, hint)..
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: The Evasive 1 on May 02, 2007, 03:31:31 pm
I know that I was mostly kidding when I said Wolvie should be paired off with Monica and I sure that Marvelous was too. Yet, even if I was serious would he be such a far fetch when compared witht the other choices? I bet if Luke Cage wasn't married and Goliath wasn't dead that they would be listed also.  ::)

That being said, Captain from Nextwave is my official choice for a Monica love interest. They were great in Next Wave.

You're still  kidding right?  :P Yes it would be very far fetched for Logan to end up with Monica. Even more so than Ororo and I'm sure you know how I feel about that. Also I do not in any way see how "The Captain" and Monica had any chemistry in the Nextwave book other than being teammates. I'm don't understand where that choice comes to mind.

I will say I don't think I could see Luke Cage with Monica just as I couldn't see Rhodey with her. I don't see their temperaments, as they have been written, compatible. Now if Goliath was alive, perhaps. But I wouldn't be strongly in favor of that either.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: wgreason on May 02, 2007, 04:56:53 pm
I voted for Bishop, but now have to reconsider as I remember how he killed his sister, Shard, in the LS "Bishop: The Last X-Man."
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Frostbite883 on May 02, 2007, 06:41:25 pm
I vote for Derek Freeman!  ;) ^_^
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Mastrmynd on May 02, 2007, 07:48:18 pm
come on people...just 2 more votes for Falcon to tie for the lead.
3 to win.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Catch22 on May 02, 2007, 08:50:14 pm
Put her together with the Black Knight...his name's black...and she can put in a word to T'Challa to give him his sword back! ;D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Toya on May 02, 2007, 11:37:59 pm
I know that I was mostly kidding when I said Wolvie should be paired off with Monica and I sure that Marvelous was too. Yet, even if I was serious would he be such a far fetch when compared witht the other choices? I bet if Luke Cage wasn't married and Goliath wasn't dead that they would be listed also.  ::)

That being said, Captain from Nextwave is my official choice for a Monica love interest. They were great in Next Wave.

You're still  kidding right?  :P Yes it would be very far fetched for Logan to end up with Monica. Even more so than Ororo and I'm sure you know how I feel about that. Also I do not in any way see how "The Captain" and Monica had any chemistry in the Nextwave book other than being teammates. I'm don't understand where that choice comes to mind.

I will say I don't think I could see Luke Cage with Monica just as I couldn't see Rhodey with her. I don't see their temperaments, as they have been written, compatible. Now if Goliath was alive, perhaps. But I wouldn't be strongly in favor of that either.

The Captain who has flirted with her and has traded humourous dialogue with her is less of a match than a dead guy who she has never interacted with? And I'm the one pulling candidates out of nowhere. 8)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: The Evasive 1 on May 03, 2007, 01:16:12 am
I know that I was mostly kidding when I said Wolvie should be paired off with Monica and I sure that Marvelous was too. Yet, even if I was serious would he be such a far fetch when compared witht the other choices? I bet if Luke Cage wasn't married and Goliath wasn't dead that they would be listed also.  ::)

That being said, Captain from Nextwave is my official choice for a Monica love interest. They were great in Next Wave.

You're still  kidding right?  :P Yes it would be very far fetched for Logan to end up with Monica. Even more so than Ororo and I'm sure you know how I feel about that. Also I do not in any way see how "The Captain" and Monica had any chemistry in the Nextwave book other than being teammates. I'm don't understand where that choice comes to mind.

I will say I don't think I could see Luke Cage with Monica just as I couldn't see Rhodey with her. I don't see their temperaments, as they have been written, compatible. Now if Goliath was alive, perhaps. But I wouldn't be strongly in favor of that either.

The Captain who has flirted with her and has traded humourous dialogue with her is less of a match than a dead guy who she has never interacted with? And I'm the one pulling candidates out of nowhere. 8)

A guy who flirted with all three of the women on the team and pretty much everyone rebuked, including Monica. So no, I don't see any type of match between the two. There were on the same team. That pretty much sums up what they had in common.

As for Goliath, your previous post stated that if he was alive then people would possibly choose him as a potential match. I stated that it is a possibility though I wouldn't see it as a strong one. As far as interaction goes, I was not aware that was a criteria. Interaction between characters does not necessarily make them compatible. My choice of Goliath was based on the personality of the characters and could I see them having interest in one another.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on May 03, 2007, 05:34:56 am
I know that I was mostly kidding when I said Wolvie should be paired off with Monica and I sure that Marvelous was too. Yet, even if I was serious would he be such a far fetch when compared witht the other choices? 

....ummmmmmmm..... ::)

yep. "LoMo" would be a far fetch and would actually make me retch  ;)

Logan with Monica would be like Danny Devito or "Mini Me" of Austin Powers fame hooking up with Beyonce.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on May 03, 2007, 05:44:06 am
My choice of Goliath was based on the personality of the characters and could I see them having interest in one another.

Black Goliath (the late, Bill Foster), was once married to Nurse/Dr. Claire Temple. His love for her continued after their divorce. Temple couldn't seem to find it in her to love a hard-working, ambitious brother like Foster, but somehow Luke Cage managed to tickle her fancy. Foster seemed to want Temple back. Death has ended any possibility of that happening. A Photon/Goliath/Temple love triangle might have been something interesting to see had Foster lived.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Catch22 on May 03, 2007, 09:10:58 am
My choice of Goliath was based on the personality of the characters and could I see them having interest in one another.

Black Goliath (the late, Bill Foster), was once married to Nurse/Dr. Claire Temple. His love for her continued after their divorce. Temple couldn't seem to find it in her to love a hard-working, ambitious brother like Foster, but somehow Luke Cage managed to tickle her fancy. Foster seemed to want Temple back. Death has ended any possibility of that happening. A Photon/Goliath/Temple love triangle might have been something interesting to see had Foster lived.


There's no such thing as permanent death in the MU anymore...we'll find out next year that the Pym Particles gave him a healing factor, ala Norman Osborn...or even better, that the lightning strike from Clor turned his body into pure ionic energy and he's just hibernating in the grave! oooohhhh....can't wait!  Then after he takes a yearlong shower, he and Monica and get acquainted! ;D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on May 03, 2007, 09:58:11 am
There's no such thing as permanent death in the MU anymore...we'll find out next year that the Pym Particles gave him a healing factor, ala Norman Osborn...or even better, that the lightning strike from Clor turned his body into pure ionic energy and he's just hibernating in the grave! oooohhhh....can't wait!  Then after he takes a yearlong shower, he and Monica and get acquainted! ;D

While that scenario looks good in electronic black and white, didn't Quesada say that death in the Marvel Universe should be "meaningful" and therefore, permanent?  ;)

"...after he takes a year-long shower..."  :D :D :D :D

If Goliath would have to shower that long, imagine how long a shower the "looks-as-if-he-is-perpetually-funky-filthy-nasty" Wolverine would need to shower to make himself presentable to Ms Rambeau?  :)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Catch22 on May 03, 2007, 10:58:45 am
While that scenario looks good in electronic black and white, didn't Quesada say that death in the Marvel Universe should be "meaningful" and therefore, permanent?  ;)

"...after he takes a year-long shower..."  :D :D :D :D

If Goliath would have to shower that long, imagine how long a shower the "looks-as-if-he-is-perpetually-funky-filthy-nasty" Wolverine would need to shower to make himself presentable to Ms Rambeau?  :)


Yeah, Quesada said that...while bringing back Bucky...and Captain Marvel...and Magneto...etc.  Those words are merely the lip service that stand in the way of MonGol or better yet, PhoLiath! ;D   As for Wolvie...he wouldn't know what to do with Monica! ;)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Toya on May 03, 2007, 11:13:59 am
My choice of Goliath was based on the personality of the characters and could I see them having interest in one another.

 :) And pray tell what do you believe that my choice is based on?  Nevermind, I'll tell you (again). My choice of The Captain was based on personality also. And more importantly, the fact that I've actually seen how well Capt's and Monica personalities interact to the point where I'm convinced that The Captain is a good candidate for a Monica love interest. It seems to me that you're knocking my choice although it's more backed up than yours! My, my, where have I seen this before?

As The Capt' would say, "you have me straight tripping dude." :P


I know that I was mostly kidding when I said Wolvie should be paired off with Monica and I sure that Marvelous was too. Yet, even if I was serious would he be such a far fetch when compared witht the other choices? 

....ummmmmmmm..... ::)

yep. "LoMo" would be a far fetch and would actually make me retch  ;)

Logan with Monica would be like Danny Devito or "Mini Me" of Austin Powers fame hooking up with Beyonce.

 :) That statement was not suppose to be taken quite so literally sinjection. I was trying to make a comment on the design of the topic poll. My view is, since the named options range from good possibility to out of this world, Wolverine would not be out of place if I were to place him in the "other" category. If I've read your lovely posts correctly sinjection, I assume that you will agree that some of the listed choices there are dubious also but perhaps not as dubious as you find Wolverine. ;D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Vic Vega on May 03, 2007, 11:30:15 am
My choice of Goliath was based on the personality of the characters and could I see them having interest in one another.

Black Goliath (the late, Bill Foster), was once married to Nurse/Dr. Claire Temple. His love for her continued after their divorce. Temple couldn't seem to find it in her to love a hard-working, ambitious brother like Foster, but somehow Luke Cage managed to tickle her fancy. Foster seemed to want Temple back. Death has ended any possibility of that happening. A Photon/Goliath/Temple love triangle might have been something interesting to see had Foster lived.


There's no such thing as permanent death in the MU anymore...we'll find out next year that the Pym Particles gave him a healing factor, ala Norman Osborn...or even better, that the lightning strike from Clor turned his body into pure ionic energy and he's just hibernating in the grave! oooohhhh....can't wait!  Then after he takes a yearlong shower, he and Monica and get acquainted! ;D

Death is never permanent in the Marvel Universe. If they can bring back Uncle Ben and Bucky for gossakes, nothing is out of bounds.

Death in the Marvel Universe is like death in HALO, you wait ten seconds and you pop up somewhere else.     
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on May 03, 2007, 12:03:06 pm
If I've read your lovely posts correctly sinjection, I assume that you will agree that some of the listed choices there are dubious also but perhaps not as dubious as you find Wolverine. ;D

I absolutely agree.

I really can't see Rage or Cloak with Photon.

I'd probably put War Machine in the same category as Wolverine. Both would be in the "No Way" class. War Machine would be 2nd Class while 1st Class "No Way" status is always reserved for the ever-so-deserving Wolverine  :)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on May 03, 2007, 12:11:03 pm
Yeah, Quesada said that...while bringing back Bucky...and Captain Marvel...and Magneto...etc.  Those words are merely the lip service that stand in the way of MonGol or better yet, PhoLiath! ;D   As for Wolvie...he wouldn't know what to do with Monica! ;)

"PhoLiath"! Catch, that has TONS of potential!  :D

Death is never permanent in the Marvel Universe. If they can bring back Uncle Ben and Bucky for gossakes, nothing is out of bounds.

Death in the Marvel Universe is like death in HALO, you wait ten seconds and you pop up somewhere else.    

 :o

What the....??!!

Uncle Ben is BACK AMONG THE LIVING? When did this happen? Why, if they're going to bring back Uncle Ben, they should find a way to bring back Gwen Stacy, Sync, and restore the abilities to every de-powered mutant. Now that you mention it, they did bring Hawkeye back from the dead didn't they? He's one character they could have left for dead as far as I'm concerned.

Well, now that Ben Parker is back, Wolverine will have to scratch May Parker off of his list of potential conquests who are remotely close to his age.....Toya!   ;)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Vic Vega on May 03, 2007, 12:24:26 pm
Yeah, Quesada said that...while bringing back Bucky...and Captain Marvel...and Magneto...etc.  Those words are merely the lip service that stand in the way of MonGol or better yet, PhoLiath! ;D   As for Wolvie...he wouldn't know what to do with Monica! ;)

"PhoLiath"! Catch, that has TONS of potential!  :D

Death is never permanent in the Marvel Universe. If they can bring back Uncle Ben and Bucky for gossakes, nothing is out of bounds.

Death in the Marvel Universe is like death in HALO, you wait ten seconds and you pop up somewhere else.    

 :o

What the....??!!

Uncle Ben is BACK AMONG THE LIVING? When did this happen? Why, if they're going to bring back Uncle Ben, they should find a way to bring back Gwen Stacy, Sync, and restore the abilities to every de-powered mutant. Now that you mention it, they did bring Hawkeye back from the dead didn't they? He's one character they could have left for dead as far as I'm concerned.

Well, now that Ben Parker is back, Wolverine will have to scratch May Parker off of his list of potential conquests who are remotely close to his age.....Toya!   ;)

Uncle Ben is BACK AMONG THE LIVING? When did this happen?

Sensational Spider-Man. He was brought forward in time to the present by accident.
When the Timecop (or whoever) tells him to go back to the past and take his death
like a man, ol' Ben promply busts a cap in the cop ass.

So now he's a time fugitive. Being hunted by Spidey and Sandman (why he is there I don't know) 

I'm not making this up.  Now you might consider this an alterna-Ben, but still.
Norman Osbourne been dead since the 70's and he's alive now so... 

So much for dead means dead.  :D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: The Evasive 1 on May 03, 2007, 02:09:33 pm
My choice of Goliath was based on the personality of the characters and could I see them having interest in one another.

 :) And pray tell what do you believe that my choice is based on?  Nevermind, I'll tell you (again). My choice of The Captain was based on personality also. And more importantly, the fact that I've actually seen how well Capt's and Monica personalities interact to the point where I'm convinced that The Captain is a good candidate for a Monica love interest. It seems to me that you're knocking my choice although it's more backed up than yours! My, my, where have I seen this before?

As The Capt' would say, "you have me straight tripping dude." :P

Whoa! What the...? Now I know you're playin'. In what discussion have you and I EVER been in that I knocked you choice where your opinion is more backed up then mine? Especially since it is an opinion? You point out in any of the 12 issues of Nextwave where you see Monica having anything resembling romantic chemistry with da "Captain". Please point out the issue and the page as I have it sitting here on my desk as I just went through it again a few days ago. It appears you're just picking anybody who happens to be on a team that happens to be the most unkempt, rude, slightly chauvinistic, surfer-boy looking or troll-like characters that a particular female lead just happens to have contact with. Yeah I see a pattern here too....  :P

As far as personalities matching between Goliath  (if he was alive) and Monica? The idea came from the fact that Goliath was a scientist, morally upstanding black male who had principles. Monica, an ex-coast guardsmen, ex-leader of the Avengers, leader of Nextwave is portrayed as having principles, morally upstanding as well (though Ellis played around with her character a bit in attempt to make Next Wave funny). The men she has been depicted to be interested in happen to be close to a "Bill Foster" type. If I'm not mistaken, Monica apparently has a crush of some sort on T'Challa at present. So, yes. I can see the possibility, though not the greatest, of a Bill Foster/Monica Rambeau union.

For the record, if you make comments that I disagree with, then I may or may not say something. The same goes for if I agree with you. If some net troll pops up on the HEF and starts flaming or spouting nonsense and you take them to task for it, I'll do the same thing for you  I'd do for any any other HEF member I agree on a subject with in that I'll have your back.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Catch22 on May 03, 2007, 02:23:03 pm
I got the perfect guy...the former Deathlok, Michael Collins!  He's human now and he's smart as hell.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Mastrmynd on May 03, 2007, 02:24:53 pm
Uncle Ben is back?
wait...if you read that explanation out loud it sounds stupid as heck.
READ IT ALOUD PEOPLE!

Anyway, i guess you gotta read it 2 believe it.
And is Sandman still a good guy... ie: Silver Sable and the WildPack good
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: The Evasive 1 on May 03, 2007, 04:00:00 pm
Uncle Ben is back?
wait...if you read that explanation out loud it sounds stupid as heck.
READ IT ALOUD PEOPLE!

Anyway, i guess you gotta read it 2 believe it.
And is Sandman still a good guy... ie: Silver Sable and the WildPack good

Oh man. The bringing folks back from the dead thing is getting WAY out of hand at Marvel. DC has nothing to be proud of either.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Frostbite883 on May 03, 2007, 10:23:03 pm
Yeah, Quesada said that...while bringing back Bucky...and Captain Marvel...and Magneto...etc.  Those words are merely the lip service that stand in the way of MonGol or better yet, PhoLiath! ;D   As for Wolvie...he wouldn't know what to do with Monica! ;)

"PhoLiath"! Catch, that has TONS of potential!  :D

Death is never permanent in the Marvel Universe. If they can bring back Uncle Ben and Bucky for gossakes, nothing is out of bounds.

Death in the Marvel Universe is like death in HALO, you wait ten seconds and you pop up somewhere else.    

 :o

What the....??!!

Uncle Ben is BACK AMONG THE LIVING? When did this happen? Why, if they're going to bring back Uncle Ben, they should find a way to bring back Gwen Stacy, Sync, and restore the abilities to every de-powered mutant.

Just so you know, that wasn't the real Uncle Ben, that was an alternate universe version of Uncle Ben and he's pretty much dead as a door nail.

And Gwen Stacy has a clone somewhere in the Marvel Universe (who appeared sometime after the real Gwen Stacy died).

So in any case, the real Uncle Ben and Gwen Stacy are still dead and I also agree that they should find away to bring Synch back...the real Synch I mean, not the other version from the House of M reality.

Well, that's that.

Late'.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Tahdigga on May 04, 2007, 03:36:16 am
Well guys after sunday 5/6/07 I will close this poll so get all your votes in, and lets see who's going to come out on top....(so to speak)

Ummm anyway I read alot of you guys post about Monica being matched up with this one and that one.

I think some of them sound really cool! ;D So keep posting your thoughts. Because IMO Monica needs a little love in her life. It would be a great story.

Your E-Queen has spoken..lol(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/brownfox59/photonavi.gif)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: GrimSkill on May 07, 2007, 01:21:25 pm
I think they should maybe make a new Guy,a new superhero who happens to be a Brotha,and then build their Relationship from the ground up  :-\
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Yaw on May 08, 2007, 07:39:37 am
I think they should maybe make a new Guy,a new superhero who happens to be a Brotha,and then build their Relationship from the ground up  :-\

making a new character that will eventually be someone's love interest is the recipe for entry to the Limboverse, especially for a Black character. 
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Tahdigga on May 11, 2007, 05:04:04 pm
YES!! I'm glad Bishop won this poll. (http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/brownfox59/bishopface2.gif)
I also feel that Marvel should use the characters they already have. Further their stories. Or bring back Synch, Dr. Reyes, and Prodigy.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Catch22 on May 11, 2007, 05:16:47 pm
YES!! I'm glad Bishop won this poll. ([url]http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/brownfox59/bishopface2.gif[/url])
I also feel that Marvel should use the characters they already have. Further their stories. Or bring back Synch, Dr. Reyes, and Prodigy.


I'm not...unless they change his first name from Lucas!  :-\
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Mastrmynd on May 11, 2007, 06:08:04 pm
whoever voted for OTHER instead of Falcon probably votes 3rd party every election.

*sigh*

just throwin' votes away
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Tahdigga on May 11, 2007, 06:38:57 pm
YES!! I'm glad Bishop won this poll. ([url]http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/brownfox59/bishopface2.gif[/url])
I also feel that Marvel should use the characters they already have. Further their stories. Or bring back Synch, Dr. Reyes, and Prodigy.


I'm not...unless they change his first name from Lucas!  :-\


From Lucas to what? ???
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Catch22 on May 11, 2007, 08:01:42 pm
YES!! I'm glad Bishop won this poll. ([url]http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/brownfox59/bishopface2.gif[/url])
I also feel that Marvel should use the characters they already have. Further their stories. Or bring back Synch, Dr. Reyes, and Prodigy.


I'm not...unless they change his first name from Lucas!  :-\


From Lucas to what? ???



I don't know...but there are entirely too many black men named Lucas in the MU...How about Michael?  That's a GREAT name!
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Mastrmynd on May 14, 2007, 05:54:18 am
Arvell.
that's a totally tubular black name.
it's Awesome in its awesomeness!
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on May 14, 2007, 08:09:04 am
Arvell.
that's a totally tubular black name.
it's Awesome in its awesomeness!

Oh, Good Lord...no, MM.  NO, I say!!!  :o

"Arvell"?

With apologies to any and all "Arvells" who may be reading this post, "Arvell" sounds like too reminiscent of "Orkell". And then there is "Donzell", "Quonzell", any name we can affix an "ell" or "el" to, we will do it and it begins to sound ridiculous. You know that when "Jor-el" and "Kal-el" sound better than "Arvell", "Donzell", and "Quonzell", those three names should be avoided at all costs.

Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Catch22 on May 14, 2007, 08:28:25 am
Then Michael it is!!  ;D LOL
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Toya on May 14, 2007, 09:39:54 am
Arvell.
that's a totally tubular black name.
it's Awesome in its awesomeness!

Oh, Good Lord...no, MM.  NO, I say!!!  :o

"Arvell"?

With apologies to any and all "Arvells" who may be reading this post, "Arvell" sounds like too reminiscent of "Orkell". And then there is "Donzell", "Quonzell", any name we can affix an "ell" or "el" to, we will do it and it begins to sound ridiculous. You know that when "Jor-el" and "Kal-el" sound better than "Arvell", "Donzell", and "Quonzell", those three names should be avoided at all costs.



 :o Mastrmynd is going to getcha Sinjection; he is one of the "'Arvells' who may be reading this post".
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Mastrmynd on May 14, 2007, 10:07:32 am
*looks at Toya*
So true...so true.

*looks at Catch-22*
Stop tryin' to hold me back dawg... i'm just gonna TALK to sin...thass all...i just like carryin' this bat with me...it's like my security blanket.
 >:(
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Catch22 on May 14, 2007, 10:58:35 am
*looks at Toya*
So true...so true.

*looks at Catch-22*
Stop tryin' to hold me back dawg... i'm just gonna TALK to sin...thass all...i just like carryin' this bat with me...it's like my security blanket.
 >:(


See...that's why I didn't make a big deal out of it...man...you know you're unstable....put the bat down!  Sin just meant that Arvell was too...um...REGAL of a name...yeah, that's it.  Now come on...let's get you some graham crackers. 

Crazy muhfukkas LOVE graham crackers!!

:D
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on May 15, 2007, 05:06:32 am
Arvell.
that's a totally tubular black name.
it's Awesome in its awesomeness!

Oh, Good Lord...no, MM.  NO, I say!!!  :o

"Arvell"?

With apologies to any and all "Arvells" who may be reading this post, "Arvell" sounds like too reminiscent of "Orkell". And then there is "Donzell", "Quonzell", any name we can affix an "ell" or "el" to, we will do it and it begins to sound ridiculous. You know that when "Jor-el" and "Kal-el" sound better than "Arvell", "Donzell", and "Quonzell", those three names should be avoided at all costs.



 :o Mastrmynd is going to getcha Sinjection; he is one of the "'Arvells' who may be reading this post".

*looks at Toya*
So true...so true.

*looks at Catch-22*
Stop tryin' to hold me back dawg... i'm just gonna TALK to sin...thass all...i just like carryin' this bat with me...it's like my security blanket.
 >:(

 :D :D :D :D Me and my "big mouth" via these tempetuously-tapping fingers!

It's a good thing that I apologized to any and all "Arvell's" in advance with my dear brother MM of course, at the tippety-top of the list of those apologized to  :)

Now while I'm at it, I will apologize to all the others whose names might have fallen under the umbrella of those "ell", "el" names I cited as being "ridiculous".

I'm sorry Donzell. I am sorry Quonzell. I am sorry Flozell....that would be Mr. Flozell Adams, 6'7" - 340lb Tackle for the Dallas Cowboys. I am really, really, reaaalllllly sorry if I've offended Flozell. I am sorry Duracell. Yes, I know it's just a battery, but I don't want to take the chance of angering that Energizer Bunny so that instead of beating the @#*#! out of that drum, he decides to start drumming on my beleagured nogin  ;)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: sinjection on May 15, 2007, 05:39:34 am
Not meaning to savage this fine topic anymore than I already have by straying hither and yon as I have, but Toya....

Toya, I recently happened upon what appeared to be a discarded issue of "Ultimate X-Men"...#10, I believe it was. It featured the injection of Gambit into the "Ultimate" mythos via the Fenris twins.

I'm sure you wouldn't know the answer to this question, Toya and I certainly don't want to put you on the spot, but I have to know. Why is "Ultimate X-Men" writer Brian K. Vaughn so stupid? I did happen to enjoy the artwork by Adam Kubert - he's another one of my favorite pencillers - but the effort was ruined by the oppressive idiocy, chauvinistic, quacking-duck-fanboy-fantasy flotsam-that-attempted-to-pass-for-a-comicbook-story which flowed from the pen of that fool Vaughn. No reader of the "Ultimate X-Men" had better EVER come to this forum and attempt to disparage the writing efforts of Hudlin or McDuffie. Both of those gentlemen would write rings around Vaughn even while under the influence of a heavy dose of anasthesic drugs.

The "Ultimate X-Men" are beginning to look and act a great deal like the "616" X-Men which only proves that every X-Men story that could be told HAS been told. The X-Men are boring as hell be it "Ultimate" or "616" style. They are played out. Vaughn writes Ororo disgracefully. Why is she flying around..."flying around in the air, that is"....while wearing what appears to be a corset of some kind and a flaring miniskirt? Is she so hard up for Wolverine that she's hoping that everytime she passes overhead, Wolverine will have the urge to look up her skirt as she does so? That is beyond stupid. Even Dazzler, Kitty Pryde and Rogue seem to be nothing but weak pushovers for any mutant male who bats an ugly eye at them. Dazzler shamelessly pursuing Colossus. Kitty Pryde and Rogue fighting for the attention of Iceman and then, when Gambit arrives on the scene and kidnaps Rogue, not only are they swapping spit before the end of the story, but at the end of that story, Rogue decides she is leaving the X-Men with Gambit, a mutant she'd only met at the beginning of the story. Where are the quacking ducks now? "616" Ororo has the good sense to kick that nasty, smelly, greasy-looking, looks-like-he-reeks-of-rank-stank Wolverine to the curb and hook up with the dashing, elegant and regal T'Challa and the ducks were quacking "wow, that was so sudden!" Ultimate Rogue dashes off with the ugly Gambit at the end of the first story he ever appeared in and people probably think - as did Dazzler - that the situation was "so hot".

And did Dazzler call Gambit a "white boy with the messed up 'fro" or something in that book? And then, Fenris called Rogue "white trash" and the ducks quack that Hudlin is a racist?

Those Ultimate X-Men fans had better steer clear of my panther for a spell. I think he is agitated and hungry for quacking duck  ;)

By the way, I think that Bishop is a fine choice for Monica Rambeau, but I think my brother, Grim had an excellent idea. Create a new character for her to establish a love relationship with. If they can do it for Carol Danvers in her solo title, they can do the same for Monica Rambeau. Having said that, watch one of those wise guy writers create a white love interest for her. Not saying that would be a bad thing mind you....but it's been done.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: stanleyballard on May 15, 2007, 12:06:08 pm
@ sinjection...agree 100%....Monica should be with Bishop ...help the brotha get his groove back!
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Toya on May 15, 2007, 07:22:39 pm
Not meaning to savage this fine topic anymore than I already have by straying hither and yon as I have, but Toya....

Toya, I recently happened upon what appeared to be a discarded issue of "Ultimate X-Men"...#10, I believe it was. It featured the injection of Gambit into the "Ultimate" mythos via the Fenris twins.

I'm sure you wouldn't know the answer to this question, Toya and I certainly don't want to put you on the spot, but I have to know. Why is "Ultimate X-Men" writer Brian K. Vaughn so stupid? I did happen to enjoy the artwork by Adam Kubert - he's another one of my favorite pencillers - but the effort was ruined by the oppressive idiocy, chauvinistic, quacking-duck-fanboy-fantasy flotsam-that-attempted-to-pass-for-a-comicbook-story which flowed from the pen of that fool Vaughn. No reader of the "Ultimate X-Men" had better EVER come to this forum and attempt to disparage the writing efforts of Hudlin or McDuffie. Both of those gentlemen would write rings around Vaughn even while under the influence of a heavy dose of anasthesic drugs.

The "Ultimate X-Men" are beginning to look and act a great deal like the "616" X-Men which only proves that every X-Men story that could be told HAS been told. The X-Men are boring as hell be it "Ultimate" or "616" style. They are played out. Vaughn writes Ororo disgracefully. Why is she flying around..."flying around in the air, that is"....while wearing what appears to be a corset of some kind and a flaring miniskirt? Is she so hard up for Wolverine that she's hoping that everytime she passes overhead, Wolverine will have the urge to look up her skirt as she does so? That is beyond stupid. Even Dazzler, Kitty Pryde and Rogue seem to be nothing but weak pushovers for any mutant male who bats an ugly eye at them. Dazzler shamelessly pursuing Colossus. Kitty Pryde and Rogue fighting for the attention of Iceman and then, when Gambit arrives on the scene and kidnaps Rogue, not only are they swapping spit before the end of the story, but at the end of that story, Rogue decides she is leaving the X-Men with Gambit, a mutant she'd only met at the beginning of the story. Where are the quacking ducks now? "616" Ororo has the good sense to kick that nasty, smelly, greasy-looking, looks-like-he-reeks-of-rank-stank Wolverine to the curb and hook up with the dashing, elegant and regal T'Challa and the ducks were quacking "wow, that was so sudden!" Ultimate Rogue dashes off with the ugly Gambit at the end of the first story he ever appeared in and people probably think - as did Dazzler - that the situation was "so hot".

And did Dazzler call Gambit a "white boy with the messed up 'fro" or something in that book? And then, Fenris called Rogue "white trash" and the ducks quack that Hudlin is a racist?

Those Ultimate X-Men fans had better steer clear of my panther for a spell. I think he is agitated and hungry for quacking duck  ;)

By the way, I think that Bishop is a fine choice for Monica Rambeau, but I think my brother, Grim had an excellent idea. Create a new character for her to establish a love relationship with. If they can do it for Carol Danvers in her solo title, they can do the same for Monica Rambeau. Having said that, watch one of those wise guy writers create a white love interest for her. Not saying that would be a bad thing mind you....but it's been done.

 :) Good read sinjection and you make great points too. However for the most part, you're comparing apples with oranges here. Using the Ult. X-Men in this case discombobulates and weakens your argument. You go into detail about characters portrayals, citing primarily how they dress, and how they interact with others etc. However, you fail to recognize that the writers of the Ult.X-Men have accomplished their task by making the characters different. So it is not the same as a "quacking duck" protesting that Hudlin (haven't heard about anything against McDuffie) writes his characters OOC. On the other hand those who champion a Might Avengers book but spit on the idea of a team that has all Black, or all Asian, or all Latino etc. members by calling it "racist" or "segregated" are hypocrites.

Regarding ideas you do make a good point using the Ult. X-Men, kinda. I use to protest the fact that some of the storylines mimic those of the 616 universe. I always thought that it was either the X-franchise jumped the shark or they writers were not creative enough. But you have to understand something sinjection, Mr. Vaughn (who I think is a good writer, loved his Pride of Baghdad book) is no longer writer of the Ult. X-Men series. Instead the current writer Mr. Kirkman has taken over and has turned the entire series on its head, which I think is promising. Kirkman has been putting out new ideas constantly on the series. And although I still griped about some of the storylines I must admit that he brings new concepts to the series. I think that Hudlin and McDuffie both bring new ideas too, and I'm always a fan of new ideas. But the Ult. X-Men fan base is mixed on how they feel about old and new ideas so it's hard to generalize about "quacking ducks" belonging to this fan base. I hope I explained my point good enough.

I remember reading The Avengers #277 when Monica Rambeau was chatting to that detective, Freeman. I thought they were very compatible characters. But I couldn't help noticing that that version of Monica Rambeau was different to the version I'm more acquainted with, the Monica from Nextwave. For one thing Nextwave Monica was more spontaneous and disgruntled than the Monica I found in the old school Avengers series. Again, I'm always a fan of interesting new portrayals and ideas and it is one of the reasons why I liked Ellis' Monica. So when Nextwave has officially determined to be a part of the 616 universe I don't think many other characters fit her as The Captain and Machine Man, Aaron Stack, her teammate from the Nextwave series. So maybe if Monica was the same as she was from the old Avengers then yes, I could see her with Freeman, or a couple of those listed choices rather than The Captain. *shrug*  :-\
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Tahdigga on May 18, 2007, 04:36:57 pm
Arvell.
that's a totally tubular black name.
it's Awesome in its awesomeness!

I like you Mr M, you are my Eking..lol I  just don't think Arvell would be a good name 4 Bishop.

I was thinking Brian or Kendal...maybe Jordan

Yeah! He looks like a Jordan Bishop to me (http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/brownfox59/bishop202.gif)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Catch22 on May 18, 2007, 07:36:21 pm
Arvell.
that's a totally tubular black name.
it's Awesome in its awesomeness!

I like you Mr M, you are my Eking..lol I  just don't think Arvell would be a good name 4 Bishop.

I was thinking Brian or Kendal...maybe Jordan

Yeah! He looks like a Jordan Bishop to me ([url]http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/brownfox59/bishop202.gif[/url])



Nope...you're stuck with Lucas.  He's black...he's a man...he's at Marvel....LUCAS!
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Tahdigga on May 18, 2007, 09:00:11 pm
Arvell.
that's a totally tubular black name.
it's Awesome in its awesomeness!

I like you Mr M, you are my Eking..lol I  just don't think Arvell would be a good name 4 Bishop.

I was thinking Brian or Kendal...maybe Jordan

Yeah! He looks like a Jordan Bishop to me ([url]http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/brownfox59/bishop202.gif[/url])



Nope...you're stuck with Lucas.  He's black...he's a man...he's at Marvel....LUCAS!


Yeah...your right  :-\
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: GrimSkill on May 19, 2007, 04:03:43 pm
So wait,whatever Happend to the freaky Bird Chick he was with?

ohhhh wait....I bet she is dead...comic book writer's answer to anyone Black or near Black,or Dating Black >.<
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: The Evasive 1 on May 19, 2007, 10:53:25 pm
So wait,whatever Happend to the freaky Bird Chick he was with?

ohhhh wait....I bet she is dead...comic book writer's answer to anyone Black or near Black,or Dating Black >.<

Oh no!!! What's going to happen to STORM???  :o
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: KIP LEWIS on May 20, 2007, 05:10:07 am
So wait,whatever Happend to the freaky Bird Chick he was with?

ohhhh wait....I bet she is dead...comic book writer's answer to anyone Black or near Black,or Dating Black >.<

You talking about Death Bird?  She just helped take over the Shi'ar empire or something.  She's been a player in one of the main X-books.  (Hmm, the question is, does she and Bishop have a daughter out there too, as we saw in the X-Men the End books.  :)

(Hmm, I just now realize the Justice League Unlimited wasn't the first to attach the black male hero with the white alien bird woman.  X-men did it years before GL/Hawkgirl.  Aren't there any more original ideas out there?)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Frostbite883 on May 20, 2007, 06:25:29 am
So wait,whatever Happend to the freaky Bird Chick he was with?

ohhhh wait....I bet she is dead...comic book writer's answer to anyone Black or near Black,or Dating Black >.<

You talking about Death Bird?  She just helped take over the Shi'ar empire or something.  She's been a player in one of the main X-books.  (Hmm, the question is, does she and Bishop have a daughter out there too, as we saw in the X-Men the End books.  :)

I doubt it, because X-Men: The End was an out-of-continuity comic book.

Quote
(Hmm, I just now realize the Justice League Unlimited wasn't the first to attach the black male hero with the white alien bird woman.  X-men did it years before GL/Hawkgirl.  Aren't there any more original ideas out there?)

There still are original ideas in the world, just not alot of them as there used to be.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: GrimSkill on May 20, 2007, 06:27:57 am
So wait,whatever Happend to the freaky Bird Chick he was with?

ohhhh wait....I bet she is dead...comic book writer's answer to anyone Black or near Black,or Dating Black >.<

You talking about Death Bird?  She just helped take over the Shi'ar empire or something.  She's been a player in one of the main X-books.  (Hmm, the question is, does she and Bishop have a daughter out there too, as we saw in the X-Men the End books.  :)

(Hmm, I just now realize the Justice League Unlimited wasn't the first to attach the black male hero with the white alien bird woman.  X-men did it years before GL/Hawkgirl.  Aren't there any more original ideas out there?)

The Thing is tho....Hawk Girl was Hot.

That Chick they had Bishop with,Looked like she just came from some kind of Bird Goth Rock Concert >.<
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Toya on May 21, 2007, 03:47:43 am
So wait,whatever Happend to the freaky Bird Chick he was with?

ohhhh wait....I bet she is dead...comic book writer's answer to anyone Black or near Black,or Dating Black >.<


Oh no!!! What's going to happen to STORM???  :o


http://comics.ign.com/articles/789/789862p1.html  Oh Scot Eaton! :o
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: KIP LEWIS on May 21, 2007, 06:01:33 am
So wait,whatever Happend to the freaky Bird Chick he was with?

ohhhh wait....I bet she is dead...comic book writer's answer to anyone Black or near Black,or Dating Black >.<


Oh no!!! What's going to happen to STORM???  :o


[url]http://comics.ign.com/articles/789/789862p1.html [/url] Oh Scot Eaton! :o


Ah, Marvel isn't going to kill Storm.  A) she's not a regular in X-Universe anymore.  B) along those lines, she's a Black Panther character and that would mean either Reggie wants to kill Storm or he's been overruled.

That scene could be one set in a "possible" future.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: KIP LEWIS on May 21, 2007, 06:02:09 am
Man, this is some major thread drift.  :)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Jenn on May 21, 2007, 08:30:36 am
I agree; Storm's safe. Just a red herring, and a bad one at that. Besides, why would Storm be buried in America, in an X-Men cemetery? She's a queen; she would be buried in Wakanda, with full royal honors.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: supreme illuminati on May 21, 2007, 11:37:02 am
So wait,whatever Happend to the freaky Bird Chick he was with?

ohhhh wait....I bet she is dead...comic book writer's answer to anyone Black or near Black,or Dating Black >.<


Oh no!!! What's going to happen to STORM???  :o



[url]http://comics.ign.com/articles/789/789862p1.html [/url] Oh Scot Eaton! :o



After reading the link in GrimSkill's sig regarding sinjection being the man--which he IS--I almost responded to the posters at the other site.

Then I remembered how disinclined I am toward teaching pigs to sing.
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Tahdigga on May 21, 2007, 04:16:19 pm
That can't be the outcome for Ororo! ::) What is Mike Carey and Scot Eaton doing? ???

Dammit, they can't kill Bishop! Monica and Lucas haven't gone on a date yet!(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/brownfox59/photonavi.gif)(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/brownfox59/bishopavi.gif)
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: GrimSkill on May 22, 2007, 09:21:10 am
That can't be the outcome for Ororo! ::) What is Mike Carey and Scot Eaton doing? ???

Dammit, they can't kill Bishop! Monica and Lucas haven't gone on a date yet!([url]http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/brownfox59/photonavi.gif[/url])([url]http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l21/brownfox59/bishopavi.gif[/url])


Hmmmm,to bad It seems like it's Kill off the Black characters time :-\
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: GrimSkill on May 22, 2007, 09:24:35 am
So wait,whatever Happend to the freaky Bird Chick he was with?

ohhhh wait....I bet she is dead...comic book writer's answer to anyone Black or near Black,or Dating Black >.<


Oh no!!! What's going to happen to STORM???  :o



[url]http://comics.ign.com/articles/789/789862p1.html [/url] Oh Scot Eaton! :o



After reading the link in GrimSkill's sig regarding sinjection being the man--which he IS--I almost responded to the posters at the other site.

Then I remembered how disinclined I am toward teaching pigs to sing.


What is it with people and Pigs >.<

Guess you can lead a female Dog to water but you can't make her drink......
Title: Re: Monica Rambeau aka Captain Marvel II aka Photon aka Pulsar's love interest!
Post by: Tahdigga on May 29, 2007, 05:20:18 pm
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