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Title: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on September 07, 2007, 08:37:39 am
Blu, can you make this a sticky so we will have a special thread to discuss McDuffie's upcoming JLA run?

Newsarma has a preview of the next week's JLA Wedding Special #1 which is McDuffie’s premiere as the new JLA writer. 

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Sept07/previews/wedding.html

(http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Sept07/previews/JLAWD_1_1.jpg)

(http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Sept07/previews/JLAWD_1_2.jpg)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: supreme illuminati on September 08, 2007, 06:30:21 pm
This is gonna be BLAZIN,ya know? I really really look forward to this,and I'm not really a DC guy...
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on September 08, 2007, 07:30:38 pm
I am not a DC guy either.  The only DC heroes I really like are Batman and John Stewart.  I guest I kind of like Vixen also.  I loved the Justice League animated series.  I am hoping that the McDuffie magic will give me a DC title that I can really enjoy.

Mike Mckone's art for the wedding special really looks great.  I never heard of him before.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on September 08, 2007, 07:59:44 pm
Just read at NEWSARAMA that it has been announced at Baltimore Comic-Con on Saturday that Firestorm will be in JLA.  Here is the quote from the NEWSARAMA report.  You can follow the link below to read the whole report.

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DiDio confirmed that Dwayne McDuffie will be bringing Firestorm to Justice League of America.


http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=128569

I never got into the new Firestorm series.  Do you guys think this is a good move?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: The Evasive 1 on September 09, 2007, 01:42:54 am
Just read at NEWSARAMA that it has been announced at Baltimore Comic-Con on Saturday that Firestorm will be in JLA.  Here is the quote from the NEWSARAMA report.  You can follow the link below to read the whole report.

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DiDio confirmed that Dwayne McDuffie will be bringing Firestorm to Justice League of America.


[url]http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=128569[/url]

I never got into the new Firestorm series.  Do you guys think this is a good move?



I'm glad to hear Firestorm is still under MCDuffie's pen. To answer your question, yes, I think it is a good move.

I collected the Firestorm series with Jason Rouche as the new Firestorm. It really was blase for most of the run until McDuffie took over for the last six or so. He turned that series around to the point it almost didn't make sense DC canceled it. He should have been writing Firestorm from the start. If so, that series would still be active. Check out the last couple of issues by McDuffie if you can. He pretty much was on his way to making Firestorm into an "A-lister". He also proved that Firestorm is really one of the most powerful DC characters (which is actually what McDuffie said he wanted to do). I am glad he is going to be part of the JLA.

Damn, John Stewart (Green Lantern), Jefferson Pierce (Black Lightning), Jason Rouche (Firestrom) and Mara (Vixen)! When has the JLA (or any comic line up for that matter) had so much color in it before? The fanbratti are going to be rioting in the streets soon! :D
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Blanks on September 09, 2007, 07:37:16 am
I didn't care for the new JLA series at all, but now that it is confirmed that Firestorm is going to be an active character again, I guess I have no choice but to fork over the dough to collect the JLA now! Firestorm was the only DC book I collected aside from the ION mini.

Let the fanbratti show their true colors. (get it, the joke, huh, huh? Okay, I'll stop...)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on September 09, 2007, 10:59:46 am
.. cheetah looks sexier than ever.. much better than the silver-age cheetah-skin outfit.. hmm.. catfight between Tigra & Cheetah.. mmm..  :-*
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: bluezulu on September 09, 2007, 12:29:15 pm
stickied. :)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on September 09, 2007, 04:55:39 pm
stickied. :)
Thanx Blu!!!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread
Post by: stanleyballard on September 12, 2007, 12:30:40 pm
Just read the Wedding Special and McDuffie brought Firestorm to life (he has so much more going on personality wise here & power wise he is smarter).  Where's Black Ligtning?  Green Lantern (John Stewart) finally gets a chance to get some action!  Great start on the series- loved the scene with Batman silently looking at Roy- priceless.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on September 12, 2007, 02:49:11 pm
Oh Man it sounds great!  I am having a busy week and will not be able to pick it up until tomorrow.  I might not get a chance to read it until Friday or later this weekend but I will post my thoughts afterwards.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Blanks on September 12, 2007, 04:24:15 pm
Word? Firestorm's in the issue? Now i must buy.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: The Evasive 1 on September 12, 2007, 04:35:01 pm
Oh Man it sounds great!  I am having a busy week and will not be able to pick it up until tomorrow.  I might not get a chance to read it until Friday or later this weekend but I will post my thoughts afterwards.
Cosign. I am away at a conference in FL. I won't be able to pick up this issue until I get back home.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on September 12, 2007, 07:55:39 pm
If Lex Luther is so smart, why does he keep including the Joker in the Injustice League...it never works out well for him?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: moor on September 13, 2007, 06:51:36 am
I haven't read an Injustice Gang story since Morrison's early JLA run, but, IIRC the last time their plot fizzled, it wasn't Joker's doing..

I vaguely remember Bruce Wayne bribing one of the lesser members (Mirror Master?) and initiating a hostile takeover of LexCorp holdings??

Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on September 13, 2007, 09:49:00 am
I haven't read an Injustice Gang story since Morrison's early JLA run, but, IIRC the last time their plot fizzled, it wasn't Joker's doing..

I vaguely remember Bruce Wayne bribing one of the lesser members (Mirror Master?) and initiating a hostile takeover of LexCorp holdings??



Yeah, thats what happened.  But Lex seems like Bruce, in that they want to plan for every outcome...and the Joker is forever the wild card.  Hell, he could help the good guys because its funny boner (to use one of the Joker's old terms  ;D)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on September 16, 2007, 08:10:59 am
If Lex Luther is so smart, why does he keep including the Joker in the Injustice League...it never works out well for him?
Did you read the end of Infinite Crisis? Leaving the Joker out is seriously bad for your health.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on September 16, 2007, 05:35:11 pm
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Dec07/solicitations.html

JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #16
Written by Dwayne McDuffie
Art and cover by Joe Benitez & Victor Llamas
Lightning strikes again as a Flash returns! Where's this Flash from…and what is she doing on our Earth?
On sale December 19 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US

(http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Dec07/JLA16_solicit.jpg)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on September 17, 2007, 05:44:17 am
If the Special is any indication of things; I'm going to love this series. 


Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on September 17, 2007, 07:25:59 am
This series is back on track now...had dropped it with the troubled pacing of the first six issues.  McDuffie brings a whole new ideology to this book that is evident from the opening pages...he has direction, sharp dialogue, sub-plots and characterization down to a science.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on September 18, 2007, 07:51:47 am
Darn, I still haven’t had time to read The Wedding Special.  I am teaching a computer class tomorrow as part of my volunteer work and must prepare my lesson tonight.  Don’t know when I will have time to read it.  Darn it!!!   >:(
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on September 18, 2007, 07:57:19 am
FIRST LOOK: JUSTICE LEAGUE #13 from Newsarama (Possible Spoilers)

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=129801

Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: BlackRodimus on September 18, 2007, 08:05:21 am
Looks cool. The artist is no Ed Benes, but its still pretty cool.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on September 18, 2007, 08:56:12 am
The “Pipeline” column by Augie De Blieck Jr at CBR is heaping praise upon McDuffie for his JLA.  Follow the link and scroll down to the section of the column labeled "OVER IN THE DC PLAYGROUND".

http://comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=6
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Mastrmynd on September 19, 2007, 05:10:17 am
whoa!

isn't that the black superman from dc's tangent line?
issue 1 million?

tell me i'm right...tell me i'm right!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on September 19, 2007, 05:36:08 am
whoa!

isn't that the black superman from dc's tangent line?
issue 1 million?

tell me i'm right...tell me i'm right!

Yep. Tangent Superman. The others are Tangent as well.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Mastrmynd on September 19, 2007, 07:44:07 am
dayam.... way to go McDuffie!!!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Princesa on September 20, 2007, 04:10:35 pm
I am not a DC guy either.  The only DC heroes I really like are Batman and John Stewart.  I guest I kind of like Vixen also.  I loved the Justice League animated series.  I am hoping that the McDuffie magic will give me a DC title that I can really enjoy.

Mike Mckone's art for the wedding special really looks great.  I never heard of him before.


I feel pretty much the same way about JS and Batman. I did like the BOP when Simone was on it.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: masigl4179 on September 20, 2007, 05:51:18 pm
Justice League of America Wedding Special- Even though it was all set up I liked it. I think Dwayne McDuffie got a good start, and I'm happy that he brought John Stewart back into the fold as Green Lantern. I also found the talk between Hal Jordan and John Stewart very interesting to say the least.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: The Evasive 1 on September 20, 2007, 06:41:39 pm
Justice League of America Wedding Special- Even though it was all set up I liked it. I think Dwayne McDuffie got a good start, and I'm happy that he brought John Stewart back into the fold as Green Lantern. I also found the talk between Hal Jordan and John Stewart very interesting to say the least.


Yeah, I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed that issue. That conversation between and Hal and John was a trip. I guess that's McDuffie thumbing his nose at the naysayers. I also like how he got Batman to not only compliment Firestorm on his increasing experience, but he also stated Firestorm was possibly one the most powerful beings on the planet.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on September 20, 2007, 07:21:41 pm
I also like how he got Batman to not only compliment Firestorm on his increasing experience, but he also stated Firestorm was possibly one the most powerful beings on the planet.

Hell, the dude can turn anything into anything. Plenty powerful.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on September 22, 2007, 05:30:10 am
I finally got some time to read the Wedding Special.  It is a great kick off to McDuffie’s run!  The dialogue between Hal and John was priceless.  I am not very familiar with the new Firestorm but he seems like a very interesting character.  I will probably follow Evasive_1 suggesting and pick up the McDuffie scripted issues of the Firestorm series.

I really liked how McDuffie seems to be starting off by going back to the basics with fun superheroes vs. supervillians smackdowns.  With John on the team and McDuffie writing I will now be purchasing this title.         
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on September 26, 2007, 12:56:21 pm
Just read issue #13 and it was a great follow-up to the Wedding Special.  John Stewart's Green Lantern leads a squad, Black Lightning returns with a bang and some funny dialogue, Vixen gains new powers or a new way to use her old power and Batman comes off as one of the coolest guys around.  Hats off to Mr. McDuffie!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on September 26, 2007, 07:19:02 pm
Just read issue #13 and it was a great follw-up to the Wedding Special.  John Stewart's Green Lantern leads a squad, Black Lightning returns with a bang and some funny dialogue, Vixen gains new powers or a new way to use her old power and Batman comes off as one of the coolest guys around.  Hats off to Mr. McDuffie!

Yeah, totally enjoyed that issue.  This JLA is fast becoming my favorite title right now; at least favorite team title.

(Just a slight note, Vixen's new power/or take on her powers originated with the previous writer around five or six issues ago.)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on September 26, 2007, 07:51:04 pm
JLA is also becoming one of my favorite titles.  Right away John takes up a leadership position just like he had in the animated series.  The dialogue between him and Black Lightning was great!  All the team interaction was written well.  We also get some wonderful slam bang action.  I am loving this!!!  I think that McDuffie may surpass the great run he is having on FF with JLA.  This seems like the title he was born to write.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on September 27, 2007, 09:52:50 am
JLA is also becoming one of my favorite titles.  Right away John takes up a leadership position just like he had in the animated series.  The dialogue between him and Black Lightning was great!  All the team interaction was written well.  We also get some wonderful slam bang action.  I am loving this!!!  I think that McDuffie may surpass the great run he is having on FF with JLA.  This seems like the title he was born to write.
the next issue can't come out too soon..
side note-- I'm really in the dark about most of DC's villains.. who is Fatality?  Shadow Thief?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on September 27, 2007, 10:28:11 am
the next issue can't come out too soon..
side note-- I'm really in the dark about most of DC's villains.. who is Fatality?  Shadow Thief?
Since I am not a big DC fan, I also didn’t recognized many of the Dc Villains but it didn’t take away from my enjoyment of the tale.  I do know Shadow Thief because he appeared in Justice League Unlimited animated show.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on September 27, 2007, 12:54:10 pm
Am I in the minority by liking the business man evil lex rather than the robot suit wearing evil lex?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on September 27, 2007, 04:11:21 pm
Am I in the minority by liking the business man evil lex rather than the robot suit wearing evil lex?

There's at least two of us.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on September 27, 2007, 04:15:15 pm
side note-- I'm really in the dark about most of DC's villains.. who is Fatality?  Shadow Thief?

Fatality is the only survivor of a planet that John failed to save from exploding due to his arrogance in Cosmic Odyssey. She first appeared during Kyle Raynor's time as Green Lantern. She was hunting and killing every Green Lantern she could find as revenge.

The only thing I know about Shadow Theif is he is a Hawkman villain. The tech that he gets his powers from comes from Thanagar (Hawkman's planet).
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Blanks on September 27, 2007, 05:06:29 pm
this was a fab issue. My only complaint... no Firestorm, but hey, it was so packed full of everything else, I had temporary forgotten about Firestorm. At least now I have another DC book to add to my pull list, one where I know our characters will get the spot light that they deserve.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: The Evasive 1 on September 27, 2007, 10:58:40 pm
Am I in the minority by liking the business man evil lex rather than the robot suit wearing evil lex?

There's at least two of us.

Three of us.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Mastrmynd on October 10, 2007, 01:49:46 pm
Am I in the minority by liking the business man evil lex rather than the robot suit wearing evil lex?

There's at least two of us.

Three of us.

FOUR!!!!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Catch22 on October 10, 2007, 06:29:00 pm
Am I in the minority by liking the business man evil lex rather than the robot suit wearing evil lex?

There's at least two of us.

Three of us.

FOUR!!!!

Make that a quintuplet!!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on October 10, 2007, 07:05:17 pm
Am I in the minority by liking the business man evil lex rather than the robot suit wearing evil lex?

There's at least two of us.

Three of us.

FOUR!!!!

Make that a quintuplet!!

hmm, after thinking about it, I can seeing using the armor from time to time, but Buisness Suit Lex is better.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on October 11, 2007, 04:16:23 pm
Preview of next week's Justice League of America #14 at Newsarama.

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Oct07/previews/JLA_14.html

(http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Oct07/previews/10_17previews_1.jpg)
(http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Oct07/previews/10_17previews_2.jpg)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Open palm on October 11, 2007, 07:56:09 pm
Look at that close-up!  :o
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Mastrmynd on October 12, 2007, 06:07:58 am
clean edit: ASK and GET it... ASK and GET it!

hahahah...cool pts for whoever gets it first.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Catch22 on October 12, 2007, 11:31:53 am
Thank GOD Benes is back!!!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on October 14, 2007, 02:30:29 pm
I wonder why McDuffie isn't writing the lead story. 

JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #17
Written by Dwayne McDuffie and Alan Burnett
Art by Ed Benes, Jon Boy Meyer and Sandra Hope
Cover by Ethan Van Sciver
Double trouble for the League! First, in the lead story written by Alan Burnett, a mysterious and familiar team from beyond time has infiltrated the Hall of Justice looking for a weapon.
Will Black Lightning be their first victim? And wait ’til you see who they are!
Plus, writer Dwayne McDuffie begins a very special back-up story exploring what’s wrong with Vixen's powers. And when her condition worsens, it leads to a new arc and major change for the Leaguer!
On sale January 16 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US


(http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Jan08/JLA_Cv17.jpg)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: PFunk on October 14, 2007, 05:18:35 pm
From what posted on his message board it looks like standard DC policy it's a 3 issue break to allow him and (more importantly) the artist to catch up.  I guess DC is getting serious about late books.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on October 14, 2007, 05:29:05 pm
From what posted on his message board it looks like standard DC policy it's a 3 issue break to allow him and (more importantly) the artist to catch up.  I guess DC is getting serious about late books.
Thanx for the info.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on October 15, 2007, 09:11:13 am
McDuffie is a total professional (from the old school)!!!!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on October 15, 2007, 09:19:17 am
New McDuffie JLA this Wednesday!!!  I am so looking forward to it!!!  And that Black Lightning cover for January's issues is great stuff.  I hope John Stewart gets a nice poster worthy cover soon.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: moor on October 15, 2007, 09:20:05 am
Is this the same Allen Burnett who was writing for DC in the 70's and went over to cartoons in the 80's??

If so, I'm guessing we'll be seeing the Smurfs assaulting the satellite?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: PFunk on October 15, 2007, 06:54:32 pm
From what posted on his message board it looks like standard DC policy it's a 3 issue break to allow him and (more importantly) the artist to catch up.  I guess DC is getting serious about late books.
Thanx for the info.

No Problem.  Also (from Dwayne's own MB) Flash's intro into the JLA has been pushed back to either issue 19 or 20.  Hopefully, we have Dwayne back on a regular monthly schedure after all of this 'mess' is over.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Open palm on October 17, 2007, 08:54:28 am
Hmmm. I wonder if DC would do a series of 'toture porn' artwork on the JLA?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on October 17, 2007, 01:08:25 pm
Got my greedy little hands on a copy of JLA #14 at lunchtime.  Have a few things to do after work.  Don't know if I will get a chance to read it tonight.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on October 17, 2007, 04:36:41 pm
new issue was good but not great.  I would have liked a little more of the actual justice league in there.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on October 17, 2007, 07:18:11 pm
This is definitely just a build up to the climax.  We get good characterization and dialogue from Supes, Black Lightning, Lex and the Joker.  We get some good action at the end.  This is all building up to the point where hopefully McDuffie will knock it out the park.  I found it very enjoyable.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on October 22, 2007, 07:42:07 am
McDuffie gets some love in this Newsarama review.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=133784
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on October 22, 2007, 08:31:15 am
McDuffie is bringing a great dynamic to this series that was lacking and it comes out in the pacing, characterization, dialogue and choice of heroes and villains.  Even the art seems slightly more detailed and stylized than before (Benes now has new inspiration).  The review was spot-on with its praise of Mr. McDuffie's work.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on November 18, 2007, 12:05:48 pm
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Feb08/solicitations.html

JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #18
Written by Dwayne McDuffie & Alan Burnett
Art by Ed Benes & JonBoy Meyers
Cover by Ethan Van Sciver
WITNESS THE JLA’S BATTLE WITH THE SUICIDE SQUAD!
The Justice League Vs. the Suicide Squad for the salvation of the Earth’s villains! Plus, more on Vixen’s power flux.
On sale February 20 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US


(http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Feb08/JLA_Cv18_solicit.jpg)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on November 30, 2007, 05:33:54 am
Newsarama has posted a preview of JLA #15
SPOILER WARNING!!!  The outcome of last issue's cliffhanger is revealed in this preview!
Follow this link to see the preview pages.
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=137988
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Blanks on December 05, 2007, 07:33:21 pm
It was a great read, although the one thing that bothered me was the no consistency in the art. The artist completely ignored how John Stewarts hair was since his return to the pages of the JLA with the Wedding Special. He had the cut from the animated series while this artist drew him with a full head of hair. But that is just the artist in me being nickpicky. I always look for small stuff like that, thanks to my college professors.

Overall, I felt it was a good issue. And could already make this good issue better? It is now confirmed that Firestorm is now part of the league, cause Batsman said so!!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on December 05, 2007, 09:05:22 pm
I thought the storyline was average.  The bad guys beat up the good guys, go "mwah ha ha" and then lose. 

Vixen has no place on this team.  Her powers, or what is left of them, can not be trusted.  She is a liability to the team.  Also, Firestorm's reason for being on the team is silly.  If Batman wants him for that reason, then Firestorm should be on the Titans or even the JSA where they teach younger heroes to control and expand their powers.  The JLA should be the best of the best, and right now, neither vixen or firestorm qualify for that.  Let them go off, get their houses in order, learn to control/understand their power, and have them come back. 
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on December 06, 2007, 06:49:08 am
C'mon the JLA's always been the 'best of the best (and a few of the rest)'. Even when Morrisson took it back to the original 7, he was still using characters like Aztek, Steel and Huntress, and Firestorm is certainly level or above those guys. Plus, with Ronnie's links to the League, and him effectively dying on League business, there's been a feeling that Batman wanted a closer eye on the new Firestorm, ever since he broke into JLA headquarters in his own series.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: The Evasive 1 on December 06, 2007, 10:33:12 pm
Yeah, I've been waiting for Firestorm to join the team since McDuffie himself had so much as said he was taking the character to bigger and better heights when he took over writing Firestorm around the end of his solo series. McDuffie also commented  that he intended to use Vixen's loss of power  issue as story point fro the JLA series so I am not surprised both these characters are in the JLA line-up. Actually I'm glad that they are.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on December 07, 2007, 05:06:25 am
I thought the storyline was average.  The bad guys beat up the good guys, go "mwah ha ha" and then lose. 

Ah, did you miss that piece of dialogue between Superman and Luthor at the end?  Superman doesn't believe that this fight was just as simple as bad guys fight good guys.  Something else was going on and luthor response that something "is" going on.  This isn't over.

Vixen has no place on this team.  Her powers, or what is left of them, can not be trusted.  She is a liability to the team.  Also, Firestorm's reason for being on the team is silly.  If Batman wants him for that reason, then Firestorm should be on the Titans or even the JSA where they teach younger heroes to control and expand their powers.  The JLA should be the best of the best, and right now, neither vixen or firestorm qualify for that.  Let them go off, get their houses in order, learn to control/understand their power, and have them come back. 

Vixen does need to get back to her powers, but that's no reason to drop her.  It's part of the story.  As far as Batman goes; he'd never put Firestorm on any other team, because he's too parnoid to let someone else do it. Yeah, it would fit the JSA's concept of teaching the next generation and such, but Batman saying--"You're here because I'm keeping an eye on you." is classic batman.

Oh on to BLANKs' comment about John's hair always being different?  that's simple--he's got a power ring.  Just like it can change their clothes into costumes and vis versa, it also moonlights as an instant barber who sells the best quick-hairgrow formula on the market today.  :)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on December 07, 2007, 01:04:52 pm
Good ending to the issue and great art (better all the way around than the first few issues by Meltzer..it d/n drag).  Dialogue, plotting and pacing was spot on!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on December 10, 2007, 06:21:43 am
This was a very enjoyable conclusion to a fun back to basics tale.  I am really looking forward to see what is in store next.       
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on December 17, 2007, 08:15:45 am
Looks like no McDuffie in March.

http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/March08/Sunday.html

JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #19
Written by Alan Burnett
Art by Ed Benes & Sandra Hope
Cover by Benes
Don’t miss the final chapter of “Salvation,” as the JLA turn themselves over to the U.S. government to be sent to prison off-world! What old foe will they have to rely on to save themselves from planet hell?
On sale March 19 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US


(http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/March08/jla_cv19_solicit.jpg)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on December 19, 2007, 06:58:36 am
5 page preview of JLA #16
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Dec07/previews/19.html

Here are 3 of the 5 pages.  John is in da house!!!  ;D

(http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Dec07/previews/12_19previews_23.jpg)

(http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Dec07/previews/12_19previews_24.jpg)

(http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Dec07/previews/12_19previews_25.jpg)

 
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on December 19, 2007, 09:17:49 am
McDuffie is the man.....consistent writing powerhouse!   ;D
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Mastrmynd on December 19, 2007, 04:22:20 pm
JLA #19 is written by someone else.

is McDuffie taking a break or something?
say it ain't over already.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on December 20, 2007, 06:43:52 am
Read the latest last night.  McDuffie’s characterizations were wonderful.  I was a bit disappointed that the story was so short and really an introduction to a tale that will continue in another series that I have no desire to read. 
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: The Evasive 1 on December 20, 2007, 12:07:50 pm
Why do you have no desire to read this series? As you said, it was an introduction to McDuffie taking over the reins of the book and asserting his writing style. He added two more black characters to the roster that truly increases the diversity of the team (of course it would be nice to if their was other ethnicities on the team too). Added to that both those characters were on their way to limbo from the cancellation of their solo series until McDuffie cams and made the characters actually worth reading. Also he writes all the characters pretty well. The series is good. I was following it awhile when it came back, under the previous writers and I almost dropped it too. Now that McDuffie's writing it, I think the quality has skyrocketed.

Anyway, to each his own. Maybe you'll decide to come back one day had give it another try. Hopefully it will be able to satisfy you interests then.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on December 20, 2007, 12:30:53 pm
Why do you have no desire to read this series? As you said, it was an introduction to McDuffie taking over the reins of the book and asserting his writing style. He added two more black characters to the roster that truly increases the diversity of the team (of course it would be nice to if their was other ethnicities on the team too). Added to that both those characters were on their way to limbo from the cancellation of their solo series until McDuffie cams and made the characters actually worth reading. Also he writes all the characters pretty well. The series is good. I was following it awhile when it came back, under the previous writers and I almost dropped it too. Now that McDuffie's writing it, I think the quality has skyrocketed.

Anyway, to each his own. Maybe you'll decide to come back one day had give it another try. Hopefully it will be able to satisfy you interests then.

No no no no no no dude!  You misunderstood me.  I am not saying that I don’t want to continue reading Mcduffie’s JLA.  I love McDuffie’s JLA!  I was saying that I had no interest in reading the continuation of the story that starts in JLA #16.  That story continues in Tangent: Superman's Reign #1 which goes on sale in March.  That is the book I have no interest in.   
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: PFunk on December 20, 2007, 05:03:47 pm
Personally I think McDuffie's JLA is great (it got me to pick up the book again).  However there seems to be some real hating going on about his JLA run on various MB's.  Especially the Newsrama one.

Sheesh it's starting to look like shades of BP again.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: The Evasive 1 on December 20, 2007, 05:21:44 pm
Why do you have no desire to read this series? As you said, it was an introduction to McDuffie taking over the reins of the book and asserting his writing style. He added two more black characters to the roster that truly increases the diversity of the team (of course it would be nice to if their was other ethnicities on the team too). Added to that both those characters were on their way to limbo from the cancellation of their solo series until McDuffie came and made the characters actually worth reading. Also he writes all the characters pretty well. The series is good. I was following it awhile when it came back, under the previous writers and I almost dropped it too. Now that McDuffie's writing it, I think the quality has skyrocketed.

Anyway, to each his own. Maybe you'll decide to come back one day had give it another try. Hopefully it will be able to satisfy you interests then.

No no no no no no dude!  You misunderstood me.  I am not saying that I don’t want to continue reading Mcduffie’s JLA.  I love McDuffie’s JLA!  I was saying that I had no interest in reading the continuation of the story that starts in JLA #16.  That story continues in Tangent: Superman's Reign #1 which goes on sale in March.  That is the book I have no interest in.   

Sorry, dude. I was trying to bash your opinion or anything. I was just curious as to why it seemed you weren't going to read JLA. I didn't get that you were talking about this other series.

My bad. :)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on December 20, 2007, 05:42:27 pm
McDuffie is doing a better job than Meltzer (hands down)...the stories are not dragging & there is stronger dialogue and characterization between the entire team....McDuffie may not be a big name in the comic world but he is one hell of a good writer!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on December 21, 2007, 07:54:16 am
Sorry, dude. I was trying to bash your opinion or anything. I was just curious as to why it seemed you weren't going to read JLA. I didn't get that you were talking about this other series.

My bad. :)
No problem.  It’s all good bro.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on January 04, 2008, 01:29:02 pm
Mcduffie Updates The Justice League Lineup
http://comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12692
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Mastrmynd on January 12, 2008, 07:35:38 am
man, i need to start watchin' ben 10 again...:)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on January 16, 2008, 02:36:12 pm
I was thinking; hasn't the screwing with Vixen's powers started after the JLA battled AMAZO?  The robot absorbs the powers and skills of others and now, Vixen is doing the same?  Maybe she's aquired his power?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: moor on January 17, 2008, 12:31:45 am
Ok, Issue 17 while more of a prelude issue, was worth it for the backup story alone...  I've got WAY more questions about Vixen now!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on January 17, 2008, 07:07:52 am
Ok, Issue 17 while more of a prelude issue, was worth it for the backup story alone...  I've got WAY more questions about Vixen now!

I'm not sure I like the ability to mimic "non super abilities," but I'll give it a shot.  Will she become one of the world's best detectives if she steals from Batman?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on January 19, 2008, 06:24:51 am
Read it & want to see where this story goes with Vixen....
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on January 22, 2008, 06:15:54 pm
McDuffie is back writing JLA solo!  Cool!!!  8)

JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #20
Written by Dwayne McDuffie
Art and cover by Ethan Van Sciver
The Flash has not been answering his JLA signal, so now he has to answer to Wonder Woman! But first they have to survive an attack by the Queen Bee and her new drones from the H.I.V.E in a story that only superstar artist Ethan Van Sciver (Green Lantern: Rebirth) could bring to life!
On sale April 23 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US


(http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/April08/jla_cv20_solicit.jpg)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on January 23, 2008, 08:02:34 am
McDuffie is back writing JLA solo!  Cool!!!  8)

JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #20
Written by Dwayne McDuffie
Art and cover by Ethan Van Sciver
The Flash has not been answering his JLA signal, so now he has to answer to Wonder Woman! But first they have to survive an attack by the Queen Bee and her new drones from the H.I.V.E in a story that only superstar artist Ethan Van Sciver (Green Lantern: Rebirth) could bring to life!
On sale April 23 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US


([url]http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/April08/jla_cv20_solicit.jpg[/url])



Ethan Van Sciver quickly became one of my favs. 
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on January 24, 2008, 09:23:44 am
I dig the latest issue, #17, black lightning takes out some bad guys on his own..

and a Vixen-centered backup feature.. I really dig the art.. and the ending is curious.. (and awesome!)

I'm still woefully unhip on the broader villain-dom of the DC Universe (outside of the obvious batman/superman rogues).. who the heck are all these people?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sunjata on January 29, 2008, 07:02:00 pm
Just read the latest and enjoyed it.  The Vixen mystery deepens. 
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Catch22 on January 31, 2008, 08:08:41 am
Vixen is a Skrull!!!  :o

This was a very cool issue.  Good to see Lightning get some solo time in the book and the Vixen backup was great, too.  The Art was very Joe Maduiera/J.Scott Campbell - ish....not really a plus for me, but the mystery surrounding her is intriguing.  I expect no less from DmcD.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: sinjection on March 30, 2008, 03:05:26 am
Hey. Justice League of America #19 was written by Alan Burnett and not by Mr. McDuffie. I hope this doesn't mean he will no longer be writing the book.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on March 30, 2008, 02:31:16 pm
Hey. Justice League of America #19 was written by Alan Burnett and not by Mr. McDuffie. I hope this doesn't mean he will no longer be writing the book.

Burnett wrote the last three issues to help McDuffie get caught up on his writing, according to the man himself. Dwayne comes back next issue I think.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on March 31, 2008, 07:38:44 am
Burnett wrote the last three issues to help McDuffie get caught up on his writing, according to the man himself. Dwayne comes back next issue I think.
Yeah, it's the return of Dwayne, and The Flash (apparently Wonder Woman wants to find out just why the hell he's not been showing up at JLA meetings).
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on March 31, 2008, 12:52:50 pm
Love the pacing on this book now....when it started the previous writer took forever to tell the story and now McDuffie brings it...even when he just writes the backup or takes a break for an issue or two.  Nice change.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on April 01, 2008, 08:47:00 am
Love the pacing on this book now....when it started the previous writer took forever to tell the story and now McDuffie brings it...even when he just writes the backup or takes a break for an issue or two.  Nice change.
Yeah, and I found that Red Tornado story pretty moving.
"I may not dream of electric sheep, but I still dream."
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on April 24, 2008, 02:18:16 pm
McDuffie brings the Flash back into the book and provides stellar pacing, action and characterization (even Black Lightning got a chance to kick some butt). Wasn't the same without McD.....
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on May 22, 2008, 08:06:07 am
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Great issue overall.  I hope that Carlos Pacheco sticks around as artist, or alternates with Benes…

…I have never heard of the Human Flame—and I happen to agree with Firestorm’s comment..  ;)  I am also woefully unfamiliar with the greater DCU’s legion of villains, beyond the most obvious Superman/Batman foes..  Just who are all those people?

…So, have Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman become the Illuminati?  The League above the League?  Uh-oh…

…But I am pleased to read that Steel and (presumably) John Stewart were involved in the design/construction of this ‘secret room’.  Excellent!

…So now this Libra is what, the ‘Hood’ of the DCU now?  Promising to gather all the villains and give them what they want, under his leadership?  Hmm…

…And what happened to J’onn J’onzz at the end?  Summoned from elsewhere? Or…
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Vic Vega on May 22, 2008, 08:34:05 am
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Great issue overall.  I hope that Carlos Pacheco sticks around as artist, or alternates with Benes…

…I have never heard of the Human Flame—and I happen to agree with Firestorm’s comment..  ;)  I am also woefully unfamiliar with the greater DCU’s legion of villains, beyond the most obvious Superman/Batman foes..  Just who are all those people?

…So, have Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman become the Illuminati?  The League above the League?  Uh-oh…

…But I am pleased to read that Steel and (presumably) John Stewart were involved in the design/construction of this ‘secret room’.  Excellent!

…So now this Libra is what, the ‘Hood’ of the DCU now?  Promising to gather all the villains and give them what they want, under his leadership?  Hmm…

…And what happened to J’onn J’onzz at the end?  Summoned from elsewhere? Or…


Answering your questions in order...

Most of the other villains at the meeting were Flash Rogues. The talking Ape was Gorilla Grodd, the guy in the parka with the goggles is Captain Cold.

The Big 3 have a oddly paternalistic attitude towards the JLA, way more so than most of the other founders (except for J'onn "Heart and Soul of the League" J'onzz). So they want to make sure the League is performing up to their standards. Note that the League reorganised while the Big 3 were still deciding who they were going to let in.  It'll be interesting to see how long it take Black Canary(who is SUPPOSED to be in charge) to get fed up with all this. :D

Libra is an obscure D.C. villain who only appeared once in comics (so of course, I remember him PERFECTLY :)) Think of him as an evil John The Baptist paving the way for a even greater evil.

I think J'onn is teleporting home from his adventures in the Salvation Run miniseries.

Hope my longwindedness was of SOME use to you....:D     
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on May 22, 2008, 08:47:29 am
…And what happened to J’onn J’onzz at the end?  Summoned from elsewhere? Or…

It has long been rumored that J'onn dies in the first issue of Final Crisis...which would upset me to no end  :'(
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on May 22, 2008, 02:29:21 pm
...which would upset me to no end  :'(

Yeah he's supposed to die. But he'll be back like all other dead characters.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on May 25, 2008, 09:00:27 am
Can I just say that Dwayne is a fantastic writer.  What a great issue.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on May 25, 2008, 11:51:07 am
Can I just say that Dwayne is a fantastic writer.  What a great issue.
Seconded. I loved the way he lets Batman be open and even fallible with the other Big Two, but he's still got that quintessential Batman quality. Like his acknowledgement that Superman can't do things the way Batman does because being Superman puts different responsibilities on him. And lines like 'Everyone has to be able to trust me. I'm Superman.'
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on May 29, 2008, 07:13:34 am
[quote author=Wise Son link=topic=2477.msg56673#msg56673  Like his acknowledgement that Superman can't do things the way Batman does because being Superman puts different responsibilities on him. And lines like 'Everyone has to be able to trust me. I'm Superman.'
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That's the line that popped for me.  As the most powerful being on the planet, he knows people's comfort with him relies on that trust. That's never been acknowledged in a comic before, far as I know.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on May 29, 2008, 07:57:04 am
And what was great was that, rather than just act hyper-cynical, Batman agreed with him, no argument. Compared to how they were written arguing in Infinite Crisis, McDuffie writes them as very different people who still have a believable friendship, without Clark judging Bats or Bats condescending to Clark.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on May 29, 2008, 11:05:26 am
Loved this issue too...miss Benes stellar artwork.....McDuffie does not fail to write some of the most dynamic stories around with solid characterization, pacing, comedy and plotting.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Mastrmynd on June 09, 2008, 03:58:25 pm
i'm a fan of carlos, but he did make the trinity look a bit different.
but the rest of the book was good.
:)
i figure i could do without a Benes T&A shot for an issue or 2.

i have to agree that this was a strong issue.  I was left feeling satisfied. 
recently i've been reading a few books that ended and i was left feeling "huh?"

the rapport between the trinity was the best part of the book.
friends to the end they are.
i loved wonder woman's reaction when she found out about supe's kiss with vixen.
"she is a beautiful woman" was bat's reply.
hahahahhah... that dude is a pimp.

Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on June 10, 2008, 04:47:40 am
"she is a beautiful woman" was bat's reply.
hahahahhah... that dude is a pimp.
Bat-Pimp. ;D
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Catch22 on June 10, 2008, 05:56:06 am
I liked the interacting between the Trinity, too.  It felt good to see Batman at ease and acting more human than he's been portrayed in the last 20 years. 
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Mastrmynd on June 10, 2008, 02:50:19 pm
you mean he ISN'T a vampire?
 :o
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on June 18, 2008, 02:19:58 pm
Benes is back and McDuffie is in high form as usual.....stellar work from both and we even get some guest appearances from Firestorm, Zantanna and Bronze Tiger.  It just doesn't get any better than this......
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on June 18, 2008, 06:06:02 pm
Benes is back and McDuffie is in high form as usual.....stellar work from both and we even get some guest appearances from Firestorm, Zantanna and Bronze Tiger.  It just doesn't get any better than this......

Though after seeing the art work in this week's book, I am confused with how Vixen can do anything without falling out of her top.  Just look at the scenes with the Bronze Tiger  ;D
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on June 19, 2008, 07:53:50 am
Though after seeing the art work in this week's book, I am confused with how Vixen can do anything without falling out of her top.  Just look at the scenes with the Bronze Tiger  ;D
mmm... Mari..  :-*

...so Tornado's real name is... John Smith? neat.. oh, and Kathy's his wife? ("you can't get porn?") heh.. so is he like the Vision where he has all the "real" parts? all the red is just an outfit, not his real skin?

..who is the bronze tiger? what are his powers? why does he apparently wear a silly tiger-head mask?

....uh.. just how is anybody going to help Vixen get her real powers back and cancel the siphoning? and now that she's off the team, who's going to find the time to help?

..I wonder how Roy and Kendra would react if they knew they were being watched.. but I hope they don't break up..

..glad to see Steel involved with the team again-- but I want to see him in costume..

-- i'm not as glad to see Amazo-- what happened that he was disembodied the last time?

...I want to see more groups of villains again, soon..
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on June 19, 2008, 08:35:43 am
@ Hypestyle re: who is the Bronze Tiger:

Bronze Tiger (Ben Turner) is a martial artist who first appeared in Dragon's Fists, a novel by Dennis O'Neil and Jim Berry, starring Richard Dragon. His first DC Comics appearance was in Richard Dragon, Kung Fu Fighter.

The Bronze Tiger possesses no metahuman powers, but is a superb martial artist. Many consider him one of the top 10 martial artists in the DC Universe, if not in the top 5. He has bested such great martial artists as Batman before. Turner defeated Batman in Detective Comics #485 (1979), a side result of which was the death of Kathy Kane. He would face Batman again shortly after. Even though Batman had taken every possible precaution for the rematch, neither fighter was able to gain an advantage, and the fight only ended when one of the League members shot Batman with a poisoned dart.

Ben Turner comes from an upper middle class black neighborhood in Central City. When he was only 10 years old, he saw a burglar attacking his parents, and he proceeded to murder the man with a kitchen knife. In an effort to control the rage inside him, Turner turns to martial arts (and eventually, crime). After some time, Turner decides to travel to the far East in order to finally come to terms with his demons[1]. There, he meets the O-Sensei, and studies under him, together with later recruit Richard Dragon. The meeting between Turner and Dragon serves as the start of the series Richard Dragon, Kung Fu Fighter. Some time after they are approached by Barney Ling, from the organization known as G.O.O.D. (Global Organization of Organized Defense), and their (reluctant) working for Ling served as the basis for the Kung Fu Fighter series.

A flashback in DC Comics Presents #39 (1981) shows Richard Dragon discovering that Turner has been brainwashed into becoming the Bronze Tiger by Prof. Ojo, then used by Barney Ling (who turns out to be a traitor). Dragon and Turner prove to be equals in the fight, which only ends when Ling is accidentally knocked out a window.

Later, in Suicide Squad #38, Turner's further career is shown, wherein he and Dragon are hired by King Faraday to work for the CBI (Central Bureau of Intelligence). If this was meant as a retcon or an addition to their history is not made clear. Assigned to take down the League of Assassins, Dragon and Turner are discovered by the League, who kill Turner's fianceé, Myoshi, and proceeded to brainwash Turner. Turner was rid of his demons by channeling them into the identity of the Bronze Tiger, a masked assassin working for the League[1].

During this time, he also trains the assassin David Cain's daughter, Cassandra, together with other members of the League. As the Bronze Tiger, Turner developed a fearsome reputation in the world, his identity remaining a secret to everyone but the League.

As the Bronze Tiger, Ben was feared around the world, and the Sensei was smart enough to ensure that Ben hardly ever took off the mask, sending him on a new mission as soon as he finished another. For a time, his identity was secret and he became one of the most wanted criminals, the Bronze Tiger being a professional assassin, killing on three continents.

The Bronze Tiger is eventually sent to murder Kathy Kane (the superheroine Batwoman), a friend of Batman. While fighting Batman (and defeating him), another assassin kills Kane [2]. After Crisis on Infinite Earths (known as post-Crisis) it was determined that Kathy Kane had never become Batwoman, and had merely been a friend of Batman's. Another character named Kathy Kane became Batwoman in 2006, and seems to be a completely different character. There are currently no indications that the death of the "original" Kathy will be addressed. Since the Kathy killed by the League never became Batwoman post-Crisis, it currently seems that their shared name should just be considered a coincidence.

Learning of Bronze Tiger's true identity, King Faraday set up a rescue squad of Rick Flag and Nightshade. They retrieved the Tiger, and he was deprogrammed by Amanda Waller, who would later run the Suicide Squad.

Waller later recruits Turner for the Suicide Squad, setting him up to become the team's leader, but he ends up the team's second-in-command under Rick Flag. On the team's first mission, the Tiger faces Ravan, who he brutally cripples, but refuses to kill. Turner develops a relationship with Vixen, while Flo Crawley, a part of the Squad's support crew, nurses a crush for him. Meeting Ravan again later, Turner convinces him to join the Squad, and the two become an effective fighting duo.

As the Suicide Squad series was mostly populated by villains, the Tiger was one of the Squad's 'good' members, meant to balance out the cast of characters. He often enforces Waller's rules, such as forcing various Squad members to wear devices designed to force good behavior.

The almost corrupting nature of the Squad eventually leads to Rick Flag's departure from the Squad and seeming death in a nuclear explosion. Turner becomes the leader of the team, in which he excels, often disobeying direct orders to save the lives of his men (even if they were "expendable"). The Squad member Duchess, in reality the Apokilptian soldier Lashina, betrays the team and takes many, including Flo, home to Apokolips. Flo does not survive the kidnapping.

In Suicide Squad #38, Turner is confronted for his actions by his superiors, and in the ensuing meeting, Turner's mind snaps. He flees, traveling back to the East (leaving Vixen in the process), where he spends some time as a janissary. Shortly afterwards, the Suicide Squad is disbanded and Amanda Waller is sent to jail.

Eventually, after a year, Amanda Waller reforms the Squad and again recruits Turner. In the missing year, Turner had become a deeply troubled man, who distances himself from Vixen and was constantly egging on Ravan to confront him. In one mission shortly after the team had reformed, Vixen is hurt, and this unlocks Turner's feelings for her once more. He mostly returns to his old state of mind. Vixen laters leaves the team, and she and Turner part on good terms.

In the team's last mission, the Squad struggles to free a small island nation from the tyranny of its seemingly immortal ruler. The team must pass through a forest known for causing hallucinations. While the others experience their own mind-trips, Bronze Tiger faces himself. Defeating himself, and there by excorsizing his demons, Turner once again becomes a complete person. The tyrant is later defeated by Waller.[3].

Shortly after leaving the Squad, Turner is part of the Knightquest: The Search story arc in the Batman books, which covered Bruce Wayne's search for Jack Drake (father of Tim Drake, the most recent Robin) and Shondra Kinsolving, who had been kidnapped. He teams up with Green Arrow and Gypsy, a member of the short lived Justice League Task Force. Gypsy becomes romantically involved with Tiger. He later becomes her mentor in the martial arts.

The Bronze Tiger re-appears in the (2004) Richard Dragon title alongside Dragon, written by Chuck Dixon. Dixon introduced several retcons into the series, including the notion that Turner was actually Dragon's teacher, and not the O-Sensei. These retcons were not referred to anywhere else, and the series has mostly been disregarded.

In a story arc of the Batgirl title in 2005, Cassandra Cain begins a search for her birth mother, who she believes is Lady Shiva. She tracks down Turner in Detroit, where he has opened the "Tiger Dojo". Both are able to come to terms with Turner's involvement in Cassandra's training, and he expresses his pride at her becoming a hero.

Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on June 19, 2008, 10:17:21 am
thanx, stan--

so now that I know, I hope we'll see more of this guy...
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on June 19, 2008, 12:02:57 pm
so now that I know, I hope we'll see more of this guy...

He was in the recently completed Suicide Squad mini.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on June 19, 2008, 05:04:59 pm
thanx, stan--

so now that I know, I hope we'll see more of this guy...

go buy the entire original suicide squad series....you can probably find it all in the quarter bins.  THen follow it up with the recent mini.  You'll be glad you did!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on June 19, 2008, 06:11:52 pm
@ Hypestyle....re: Amazo and what happend that he was disembodied the last time?

Amazo was built by the insane super-scientist Professor Ivo to battle the Justice League of America. Ivo wished to demonstrate his ingenuity while ridding the world of its premier superhero team. It was originally said that Amazo was created using "Appelaxian" technology. In its origins, Ivo learned he would need biological templates for both the physiology and for the mind of Amazo, and thus he killed a prize volleyball player and his own father to obtain them.

Amazo was originally built to imitate the powers of the original JLA members: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, The Flash, the Martian Manhunter, and Aquaman. However, the lineup of the JLA's founding roster has been changed via retcons, and it is currently uncertain how this changes Amazo's origin. Later versions of the robot appeared with differing abilities depending on which heroes he battled, and even later versions were able to evolve abilities simply by encountering heroes. One version was able to mimic the powers of any current JLA member, and to add new powers as new members appeared. This version was beaten when Superman officially disbanded the team; with no JLA to mimic, Amazo was rendered powerless.

A stripped down version of Amazo was recently destroyed in Gotham City. Lacking a power ring and lasso, this robot had the abilities of at least Superman, Flash and Aquaman. Batman and Nightwing managed to partially disable it- an explosive Batarang damaged the android's leg (preventing him from using Flash's speed), two small needles punctured its inner-ears, destroying its internal gyroscope (thus rendering its flying powers useless), and plastic explosive destroyed Amazo's eyes when it attempted to use heat vision- and used a missile launched from the Batmobile to finish the job. Another Amazo appeared as part of the Secret Society of Super Villains, but this Amazo had his head ripped from his shoulders by Black Adam (to get revenge for imprisoning him) and was thus destroyed.

It has not been established whether or not there is one Amazo or many. The incident with Batman and Nightwing suggests that there are multiple Amazos, each one incorporating different powers (Although Amazo typically duplicates the powers of the five original JLA members in his 'default' form). This would also account for all of the different times the android has been destroyed.

Sometime before the One Year Later gap Professor Ivo took samples from the still active body of Amazo, weakening him with a grievous wound, and crossing such material with human eggs and DNA he built a cyborg son from him. After a period of oblivious gestation in which the boy lived the life of Frank Halloran, young college student, Amazo sought him to reveal his nature and birthright of "Kid Amazo", trying to pit him against the Justice League.

Professor Ivo has recently turned up again on the prowl for the body of Red Tornado, in the wake of 52. Not only did he find the body, he's managed to graft Amazo's programming into its CPU (the Tornado body is usually guided by a human mind, depending on the nature of the Tornado Champion). A JLA task force, consisting of Hal Jordan, Black Canary, and Roy Harper battled an army of Tornado androids before discovering that the Amazo/Tornado body was meant to house the will of Solomon Grundy.

Grundy sends the Amazo/Tornado hybrid to the home of the Tornado where he is blasted by the Tornado's wife with Apokoliptian technology. Amazo thinks he is the Red Tornado and doesn't understand why his wife would attack him. The Justice League is then sent to stop him. They begin to dismantle him, though he succeeds in countering their attempts. Harper succeeds in disrupting the processing powers by shooting him with an arrow in the back, where Vixen's Tantu Totem is stored. Vixen then cuts Amazo in half by divebombing into him.

It has been suggested in the Identity Crisis series and in a current issue of Batman that there are more than one Amazo.

On the cover of Justice League of America #13 (Vol.2), it shows Amazo as a member of the new Injustice League, though this was not corroborated by the story
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on June 22, 2008, 10:31:45 am
....uh.. just how is anybody going to help Vixen get her real powers back and cancel the siphoning? and now that she's off the team, who's going to find the time to help?
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JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #25
Written by Dwayne McDuffie
Art by Ed Benes
Cover by Ed Benes
Vixen and Animal Man journey into the sacred Tantu Totem to solve the mystery of their altered powers. But Anansi, the African spider god responsible for these changes, has only begun reshaping the powers and histories of the Justice League, as eight-year-old Bruce Wayne shoots the burglar who killed his parents, Wonder Woman retires from the JLA after the tragic death of her husband, Superman, and The Green Lantern Corps quarantines Earth after one of their number destroys an American city. With the team’s history changing before Vixen’s eyes, is the JLA we now know gone forever?
On sale September 17 • 48 pg, FC, $3.99 US
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on July 23, 2008, 11:38:21 am
Wow!  McDuffie is writing this book better than what I remember it being in the 80s when I was a kid! Characterization is spot on...Bat Man comes alive, Vixen is a viable heroine, Super Man has a voice, Firestorm has more depth, Wonder Woman cracks subtle jokes...amazing!  Benes is perfect - his pencils and inks are divine...no wonder this book has slipped back into the Top Ten in sales....quality rises.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on July 23, 2008, 08:21:01 pm
in the current issue, Amazo uses Zatanna's "power."  I'm not a huge Zatanna fan, but I always thought her ability was really knowledge.  She knows magic like a surgeon knows medicine...not something Amazo can duplicate.  Or is Zatanna's magic really a "power?"
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on July 24, 2008, 08:43:13 am
Depends on the writer's perspective......
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on July 24, 2008, 05:10:39 pm
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I enjoyed the issue here, I'd have to read up on Amazo, I didn't know that his adaptation power extended to magic, especially since, traditionally, it takes X number of years of discipline, and automotons are supposed to not meet the "living sentience" component..  I suppose we'll have to wait until the next issues for more info, maybe--

-- Oh, and is this a spider-god involved in Vixen's predicament?  what is his/its agenda?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
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-- Oh, and is this a spider-god involved in Vixen's predicament?  what is his/its agenda?

I wouldn't mind a guest appearance of Animal Man in this storyline
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on July 25, 2008, 04:51:44 am
I wouldn't mind a guest appearance of Animal Man in this storyline

Check the top of this page...
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on July 25, 2008, 06:47:33 am
I wouldn't mind a guest appearance of Animal Man in this storyline

Check the top of this page...


Ooops...

My bad  :-\
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on July 27, 2008, 05:22:57 am
A nice new issues, and I like the new Amazo look.  I wonder whose idea that was?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Gooch on July 28, 2008, 04:00:15 am
looks like static and family is going main dcu
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on July 28, 2008, 07:13:48 am
looks like static and family is going main dcu

really? where?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on July 29, 2008, 03:13:41 am
With the reveal of Anasi, and him having reality-warping powers (based on the upcoming solicit), I wonder if he is the way that Milestone will be incorporated into DCU?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on August 17, 2008, 08:16:29 pm
JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #27
Written by Dwayne McDuffie
Art and cover by Ed Benes
A “Sightings” tale! Doctor Light is missing, and her former Justice League teammates intend to find the man responsible and make him pay. But before they do that, they'll have to get past his Shadow Cabinet of powerful superbeings who have sworn to "Save humanity from itself." Milestone Comics characters Icon and Hardware make their first modern DCU appearance, but this time it’s not clear whose side they’re on!
On sale November 19 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on August 18, 2008, 07:18:27 am
heck yes.. I can't wait until November.. wish it was earlier.. looking forward to any and all milestone TPBs that come out...
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on August 18, 2008, 12:28:05 pm
With the reveal of Anasi, and him having reality-warping powers (based on the upcoming solicit), I wonder if he is the way that Milestone will be incorporated into DCU?

Hmm...interesting theory.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Mastrmynd on August 27, 2008, 02:36:06 pm
#27 looks like it is gonna be a big one!
increase or decrease in sales?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on September 10, 2008, 02:57:04 pm
Good issue, and I'm personally never listening to one of Black Canary's secrets. ;) Amazo was genuinely formidable, and the league truly heroic in their actions. My only problem was the art - there was nothing wrong with it, but it didn't grab me like some fo the artists Dwayne's worked with on Fantastic Four, JLA and Beyond recently. This is a flagship title, and I just feel that it should have a top artist to match the top writer.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on September 11, 2008, 06:33:21 am
Ed Benes just took a break for one month to return better and brighter....McDuffie's work here has been some of his best and the artwork trumps what he had on FF a while back.....and the sales are higher here with the last several issues being in the Top Ten per estimates from Diamond (not counting subscriptions).
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on September 12, 2008, 06:15:39 pm
Ed Benes just took a break for one month to return better and brighter....McDuffie's work here has been some of his best and the artwork trumps what he had on FF a while back.....and the sales are higher here with the last several issues being in the Top Ten per estimates from Diamond (not counting subscriptions).
Good to hear. I liked Pelletier on FF, though. What big name artists does DC have right now? JG Jones is the only one I can think nof, and he's doing Final Crisis.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on September 12, 2008, 06:39:47 pm
Ed Benes just took a break for one month to return better and brighter....McDuffie's work here has been some of his best and the artwork trumps what he had on FF a while back.....and the sales are higher here with the last several issues being in the Top Ten per estimates from Diamond (not counting subscriptions).
Good to hear. I liked Pelletier on FF, though. What big name artists does DC have right now? JG Jones is the only one I can think nof, and he's doing Final Crisis.

What big names does DC have?

Ivan Reis
Mark Bagley
Jim Lee
Frank Quitely
Gary Frank

And the best of the best--Mr. George Perez

Also aren't Pacheco and Jimenez still drawing for DC?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on September 14, 2008, 11:23:28 am
What big names does DC have?

Ivan Reis
Mark Bagley
Jim Lee
Frank Quitely
Gary Frank

And the best of the best--Mr. George Perez

Also aren't Pacheco and Jimenez still drawing for DC?
There you go, Reis has done a fill-in, get him or one of the others on it. Let the artist and the writer be a big draw. Although, as much as I like Quitely, he's not fast.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on September 14, 2008, 01:03:16 pm
Jim Lee, G. Perez have yet to draw the Milestone heroes.. I'd like to see some issues by them...
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Marvelous on September 27, 2008, 07:25:31 pm
oh hell, I know im late but dayum...no one told me my fave artist is doing some Milestone!  Sam, you slackin yo!  :D

Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on October 03, 2008, 11:16:05 am
Ed Benes is back in issue #25....a double sized treat with a top notch cover!  McDuffie slides another one right out the park.....bang!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on October 03, 2008, 05:03:33 pm
Issue 25

Dang-I hate when anniversary double size aren't the final part of the story.  The fact that it isn't even the beginning makes it worse.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Sam Wilson on October 04, 2008, 06:14:27 pm
oh hell, I know im late but dayum...no one told me my fave artist is doing some Milestone!  Sam, you slackin yo!  :D



sorry dawg, I assumed you knew...
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Vic Vega on October 04, 2008, 10:48:13 pm
Great issue. Anasi will be a great baddie for the League. I feel K.L. on the other stuff tho.

I remember when anniversary issues either ended big storylines or were done in one deals.

But McD's has so much other stuff interfering witth his run, I can well see why he'd use the extra pages to get back on track. 
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Blanks on October 05, 2008, 12:27:16 pm
I definatly need to catch up with this book. I haven't touch this book at all since Tangent: Superman's Reign came out.
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Post by: Hypestyle on October 10, 2008, 08:07:42 am
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Really good issue;.. (but giant spiders—ick!)
I’m not familiar with Animal Man’s origin.  Is it supposed to involve yellow aliens?

Just curious. How’d Vixen get the surname McCabe?

Hm, maybe he remembers everything before each Crisis that has happened?

Looks like things are set up for an alternate-world adventure; Batman with guns!  Superman dead?  Impulse is back!  Have we seen the ‘new’ Green Lantern before?  Milestone, maybe?

Ooh.. if cross-pollination were allowed, I’d like to see Mr. McD use ‘Anansi’ in the Marvel U., to harass Spidey (heck, maybe Anansi would have been a better fit than Mephisto to be responsible for the One More Day reboot)

Also it would be interesting for T’Challa to encounter Anansi.. hint, hint..
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on October 10, 2008, 09:21:05 am

I’m not familiar with Animal Man’s origin.  Is it supposed to involve yellow aliens?

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  Have we seen the ‘new’ Green Lantern before?  Milestone, maybe?

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Ooh.. if cross-pollination were allowed, I’d like to see Mr. McD use ‘Anansi’ in the Marvel U., to harass Spidey (heck, maybe Anansi would have been a better fit than Mephisto to be responsible for the One More Day reboot)

Also it would be interesting for T’Challa to encounter Anansi.. hint, hint..

While I doubt they will crossover anytime soon, Marvel could always have their own version of Anansi. DC can't claim the name.

Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on October 30, 2008, 06:51:25 pm
news about #26--

http://media.comics.ign.com/media/805/805018/img_6103766.html
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on October 31, 2008, 04:27:36 pm
Read the Amazo thru 26 storyline straight thru.  Good read, but how many writers would get away with the Black Power guy?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on November 02, 2008, 07:08:40 pm
The JLA vs. Shadow Cabinet ad looks sick.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Marvelous on November 03, 2008, 09:20:51 pm
tight.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/RoddSteele/JLA-Cv27.jpg)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on November 03, 2008, 09:47:50 pm
Some of the humor in issue 26 was wicked.   ;D
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Vic Vega on November 04, 2008, 07:24:24 am
Read the Amazo thru 26 storyline straight thru.  Good read, but how many writers would get away with the Black Power guy?

The Brown Bomber was what D.C.was actually going to publish in the 70's. A white Racist who turend into a black man to access his super powers. :o

Saner heads at D.C. prevailed and Tony Isabella (who was horrified by the Brown Bomber) prevailed on the TPTB to do something else and Isabella created Black Lightning as a result.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on November 04, 2008, 08:25:37 am
Read the Amazo thru 26 storyline straight thru.  Good read, but how many writers would get away with the Black Power guy?

The Brown Bomber was what D.C.was actually going to publish in the 70's. A white Racist who turend into a black man to access his super powers. :o

Saner heads at D.C. prevailed and Tony Isabella (who was horrified by the Brown Bomber) prevailed on the TPTB to do something else and Isabella created Black Lightning as a result.

Thanks for the info.  I thought he was an odd inclusion, but its interesting now that I know the story behind it.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on December 02, 2008, 09:42:35 am
awesome issue..

"I call it C.P.T..."   ;D

(um, is the white guy supposed to look like B. Bendis?)   :o
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on December 02, 2008, 01:14:17 pm
awesome issue..

"I call it C.P.T..."   ;D

(um, is the white guy supposed to look like B. Bendis?)   :o
Do you know the dialogue that was removed from the 'silent panel'? McDuffie said that Vixen's response to the 'CPT' joke was along the lines of 'you cannot be serious,' and the Bomber went on to ask if it was alright for him to use the 'N' word. DC disapproved, but if you reread that passage, it makes more sense.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on December 03, 2008, 07:14:53 am
awesome issue..

"I call it C.P.T..."   ;D

(um, is the white guy supposed to look like B. Bendis?)   :o
Do you know the dialogue that was removed from the 'silent panel'? McDuffie said that Vixen's response to the 'CPT' joke was along the lines of 'you cannot be serious,' and the Bomber went on to ask if it was alright for him to use the 'N' word. DC disapproved, but if you reread that passage, it makes more sense.

aw, man!  that would have been classic if they had left that in there.. it does make a lot more sense now..  hopefully the Milestone books will have more flexibility on their humor..
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Gooch on December 06, 2008, 05:03:49 pm
Man that :ast arc was sick,  Dwayne is killin it!!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Vic Vega on December 11, 2008, 06:54:30 am
Issue #27 is out.

I'll try not to give up too much here for those who haven't read it yet, but here are some thoughts:

-Where's Plus?

-Red Arrow Gets it where it hurts.

-It looks like the Shadow Cabinet is up to it's old ethically shaky tricks.

-Metcalf is a lot nicer than I remember him and Blitzen is a lot meaner than I remember, too.

-I KNEW Dinah wasn't going to take any of the Big 3's crap.

-Given what we see in this issue, it'll be interesting when Black Lighting and Static finally meet.

-From the looks of the last two pages Icon is in no postion to be making threats. But maybe he knows someting I don't(or GL's absence gives him some hope). ;D



 
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on December 11, 2008, 07:57:46 am
ah...
#27 has much to enjoy, indeed..

I'm also looking forward to Jeff Pierce and Static spending some quality time.. maybe teach each other some new power stunts..

John Irons "couldn't stop talking" about the Slideways portal.. Heh-heh..
.. so now with Canary's discovery, will the DC-illuminati stop their 'macro-League' sessions?  I doubt it.. (so now where do they meet? fortress of solitude? Batcave? paradise island? rotate spots?)

Iota... dang, the woman's a straight klepto! don't date her at all costs..

I actually didn't read Shadow Cabinet during its run... who is the pale, bald woman.. the "cloud" guy, the "lizard" guy, etc.

Icon, at last.. I'm sure that he has some tricks up his sleeve.. and he probably knows about kryptonite..

now, some of the JLA'ers claim they "know" some of the milestone folk.. I wonder what the new backstory is..
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: The Evasive 1 on December 11, 2008, 01:09:37 pm
-From the looks of the last two pages Icon is in no postion to be making threats. But maybe he knows someting I don't(or GL's absence gives him some hope). ;D  
How so? The Shadow cabinet characters aren't that over matched by the JLA on the last page. Granted GL gives JLA the advantage, but it's not like the SC doesn't have members to match up with the Leaguers to give them a run for their money. 
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Vic Vega on December 11, 2008, 01:48:30 pm
ah...
#27 has much to enjoy, indeed..

I'm also looking forward to Jeff Pierce and Static spending some quality time.. maybe teach each other some new power stunts..

John Irons "couldn't stop talking" about the Slideways portal.. Heh-heh..
.. so now with Canary's discovery, will the DC-illuminati stop their 'macro-League' sessions?  I doubt it.. (so now where do they meet? fortress of solitude? Batcave? paradise island? rotate spots?)

Iota... dang, the woman's a straight klepto! don't date her at all costs..

I actually didn't read Shadow Cabinet during its run... who is the pale, bald woman.. the "cloud" guy, the "lizard" guy, etc.

Icon, at last.. I'm sure that he has some tricks up his sleeve.. and he probably knows about kryptonite..

now, some of the JLA'ers claim they "know" some of the milestone folk.. I wonder what the new backstory is..

The pale bald woman is Gloria Mundi, a minor character introduced after the Shadow Cabinet series got cancelled. I dont know what her powers are. The cloud guy is Twilight a living dimensional warp and team teleporter, the lizard guy is Payback, generic strongman and former Icon foe(he's since reformed).

If the Milestone/D.C crossover "Worlds Collide" is still in continuity, Superman has met Icon and Rocket and Steel's met Hardware. Most of the S.C. with the notable exceptions of Static, Hardware and Icon keep a low profile.     
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Mastrmynd on December 11, 2008, 02:01:40 pm
man, if it isn't raining, i'm going to the book store today to pick up my comics.

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Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on December 12, 2008, 08:53:57 pm
The introduction of Icon & crew was on point.....Benes turned in some great work as usual.....nothing but perfect timing and solid dialogue throughout.....McDuffie is top notch.
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Post by: KIP LEWIS on December 13, 2008, 10:22:36 am
Good issue.

About Static, Black Lightning senerio--similiar powers, emulation? 

(Off_topic, but that does beg the question--in the MU, why have no teenager (or college ager).modeled themselves after Panther?)

Back on topic-as a Dr. Light fan-the she, not the he-I'm curious as where the story will go.  Will Dr. Light join the SC? 

Btw, why is it called Shadow Cabnit?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: DMcDuffie on December 13, 2008, 07:20:58 pm

Btw, why is it called Shadow Cabnit?

Becaus they are, like the Shadow Cabinet in British Parliament, "the loyal opposition."

Or maybe because they secretly rule the world.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Francisco on December 13, 2008, 08:41:30 pm
Becuase the make desicions and operate in the shadows unknown to the rest of the world.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on December 14, 2008, 10:45:22 am
Good issue.

About Static, Black Lightning senerio--similiar powers, emulation? 

(Off_topic, but that does beg the question--in the MU, why have no teenager (or college ager).modeled themselves after Panther?)

Back on topic-as a Dr. Light fan-the she, not the he-I'm curious as where the story will go.  Will Dr. Light join the SC? 

Btw, why is it called Shadow Cabnit?

power-wise, Dr. Light = Monica Rambeau?  and why is she a *&*^%?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on December 14, 2008, 12:50:14 pm
The Dr. Light/Monica question--2 characters I like, I guess I like that powerset.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on December 14, 2008, 04:45:29 pm
If the Milestone/D.C crossover "Worlds Collide" is still in continuity, Superman has met Icon and Rocket and Steel's met Hardware. Most of the S.C. with the notable exceptions of Static, Hardware and Icon keep a low profile.     
The new continuity is that Dakota and the characters from there have always been part of the DCU, but just, as you say, keep a low / local profile. That means that most of Milestone still happened, but Worlds Collide didn't. Or at least, from McDuffie's teases, that's the situation at the moment.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on December 17, 2008, 04:43:23 am
First issue was a great tease.  Can't wait to see where Dwayne goes next.  The introduction of Milestone to the DCU is going to help reinvigorate that entire line of comics....I mean DC.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on December 17, 2008, 04:29:09 pm
First issue was a great tease.  Can't wait to see where Dwayne goes next.  The introduction of Milestone to the DCU is going to help reinvigorate that entire line of comics....I mean DC.
I always thought that was a subtext of the Static Shock: Return of the Cool mini-series. The central villain having appeared the same year Superman first appeared, and stealing powers from all the new heroes to keep himself strong and vital.

Or maybe I was reading it wrong. Y'know, it's not like McDuffie likes metatext or anything...
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Post by: Blanks on December 18, 2008, 06:16:13 pm
nice issue. Totally awesome, can't wait until the next issue. I wonder how much different Icon and the Shadow Cabinet differ from their original incarnations. Be like, Ulimate Milestone, lol.

Anybody else notice how totally ripped Static appears to be over in Terror Titans? If he is still 15 years old in this newer incarnation, the boy has been doing some serious working out.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on December 18, 2008, 06:22:50 pm
hopefully there will be a cool announcement where Mr. Reggie gets to play with the Milestone-verse..  :)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: DMcDuffie on December 19, 2008, 04:53:09 pm

I always thought that was a subtext of the Static Shock: Return of the Cool mini-series. The central villain having appeared the same year Superman first appeared, and stealing powers from all the new heroes to keep himself strong and vital.

Or maybe I was reading it wrong. Y'know, it's not like McDuffie likes metatext or anything...

Did you notice the Epigraph on his tombstone?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on December 19, 2008, 06:46:30 pm
I didn't see any pizza.  :D
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Gooch on December 22, 2008, 03:35:35 pm
First issue was a great tease.  Can't wait to see where Dwayne goes next.  The introduction of Milestone to the DCU is going to help reinvigorate that entire line of comics....I mean DC.


i went from pulling 1 dc book to atleast 3 that have the beloved milestone charecters
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Gooch on December 31, 2008, 04:02:46 pm
1 word


ICON
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on January 03, 2009, 02:02:31 pm
new issue, good stuff, check it out..
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say, what's the knob on Donner's outfit for?  a regulator of some kind? signal beacon/communicator?

interesting that Icon and Superman know each other.. I wonder does Superman know Icon's full history? hmm..
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on January 03, 2009, 02:42:26 pm
Haven't gotten the issue yet, but I have to wonder how hard of a tightrope he has to walk when writing his guys vs established DC group.  If he has his guys wins, the story could be written off as any other encounter between licensed characters (at the minimum) but if he plays it safe, he may not tell the story he wants to.  Can't be enviable position.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Vic Vega on January 04, 2009, 12:29:43 pm
Just finished reading this.

Fun issue, with the Cabinet giving a pretty good accounting for themselves in it.

Those dial thingees are the Cabinet's signal devices/teleporters IRRC. From the dialogue in the story they seen to be on the blink.I guess its the reason that the Cabinet just didn't flee when confronted by the JLA.

 
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on January 04, 2009, 04:41:33 pm
Those dial thingees are the Cabinet's signal devices/teleporters IRRC. From the dialogue in the story they seen to be on the blink.I guess its the reason that the Cabinet just didn't flee when confronted by the JLA.
They don't work because they're on the JLA's HQ on the moon. Shadowslide was never shown to work off-Earth.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on January 10, 2009, 06:53:49 pm
Has anyone researched the meaning behind the current story arc's title - 'Welcome to Sundown Town'? Dwayne said he had expected to catch hell for it, so I had to google 'sundown town' to find out why.

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And yeah, he's enjoying stoking a few fires, is our Maestro. ;D Seriously, google it yourself, and then think about what he's saying about DC / Milestone.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Catch22 on January 12, 2009, 12:43:39 pm
LOL  Priceless!!  That's a pretty hard swipe at TPTB at DC.  Though, it's a lot more subtle than his Teenage Negro Ninja Thrashers pitch!   ;D
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Gooch on January 16, 2009, 02:38:20 pm
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Loved how Supes and Icon got everybody fighting and they just sitting back on an astroid wath them from afar
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on January 21, 2009, 03:57:15 pm
I am annoyed with jla.  This months issue practically had nothing to do with shadow cabnit storyline.  It was basically a review of one of villains in storyline--an utter waste of money.

At least McDuffie had nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on January 25, 2009, 04:10:36 pm
I am annoyed with jla.  This months issue practically had nothing to do with shadow cabnit storyline.  It was basically a review of one of villains in storyline--an utter waste of money.

At least McDuffie had nothing to do with it.
It's DC's Faces of Evil event, and all DC comics for the month should be similar. McDuffie said it's one of the things that's extended the length of the Milestone story in JLA.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on February 25, 2009, 04:34:08 pm
I am ready to drop JLA.  It isn't McDiffie's fault, it is DC's.  All these interuptions.  It has totally killed the momentum.  And now, before he has any real time to play with the big 3, they are swiped from him.  Supergirl, Batwoman, won't keep me on the book.  But if he could get uninterupted storytelling of GL, Flash, Firestorm, and couple others, I might stick around.  I don't have high hopes.  He will probably get in 3 issues, then interuption.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on February 25, 2009, 05:16:19 pm
Supergirl, Batwoman, won't keep me on the book. 

They're supposed to be in that other Justice League book coming out.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on March 12, 2009, 01:28:19 pm
Posted on McDuffie's site, under the heading 'The NEW Justice League?'
(http://dwaynemcduffie.com.lamphost.net/news/uploads/2009/03/jla-134coverjpg.jpeg)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on March 12, 2009, 05:56:42 pm
Heh heh. Fanboys on various sites have been crapping in their pants about the prospect of (gasp) more blacks on the team. Even though McDuffie has repeatedly said that Icon and crew are just guest starring, not joining.
Title: JLA #31
Post by: Hypestyle on March 27, 2009, 10:08:36 am
spoilers--

Looks like Black Canary has major beef with Hal Jordan forming a splinter League, ostensibly with a "proactive" mantra.  Even Green Arrow kept it a secret from her and he gets a love tap for his efforts.. she contacts the other senior League members and gets rebuffed.. so now it's down to her, Dr. Light, Zatanna, Vixen and John Stewart..

Kudos to the Maestro for the Unforgettably Subliminal Line of the Month:

Zatanna: "...With our current lineup, we couldn't beat Justice league Detroit."
Dr. Light: "Don't be ridiculous. Everybody can beat Detroit."
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Shout out to the Lions! (dis)honorable mention for the Pistons and the Tigers...
Title: Re: JLA #31
Post by: JLI Jesse on March 27, 2009, 01:21:16 pm
Zatanna: "...With our current lineup, we couldn't beat Justice league Detroit."
Dr. Light: "Don't be ridiculous. Everybody can beat Detroit."
 ::)
 
Shout out to the Lions! (dis)honorable mention for the Pistons and the Tigers...

Zatanna and Vixen were on JL Detroit...why is Z dissing herself?  :-[
Title: Re: JLA #31
Post by: DMcDuffie on March 27, 2009, 02:26:19 pm
Zatanna: "...With our current lineup, we couldn't beat Justice league Detroit."
Dr. Light: "Don't be ridiculous. Everybody can beat Detroit."
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Shout out to the Lions! (dis)honorable mention for the Pistons and the Tigers...

Zatanna and Vixen were on JL Detroit...why is Z dissing herself?  :-[

Because she's also been on GOOD teams, and knows the difference.
Title: Re: JLA #31
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on March 27, 2009, 02:26:56 pm
Zatanna: "...With our current lineup, we couldn't beat Justice league Detroit."
Dr. Light: "Don't be ridiculous. Everybody can beat Detroit."
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Shout out to the Lions! (dis)honorable mention for the Pistons and the Tigers...

Zatanna and Vixen were on JL Detroit...why is Z dissing herself?  :-[

Heh heh. I knew Vixen was, at least. I was wondering why she didn't take offense. Guess she agrees...
Title: Re: JLA #31
Post by: DMcDuffie on March 27, 2009, 04:11:08 pm
Heh heh. I knew Vixen was, at least. I was wondering why she didn't take offense. Guess she agrees...

She was arguing with John.
Title: Re: JLA #31
Post by: JLI Jesse on March 27, 2009, 04:43:59 pm
Zatanna: "...With our current lineup, we couldn't beat Justice league Detroit."
Dr. Light: "Don't be ridiculous. Everybody can beat Detroit."
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Shout out to the Lions! (dis)honorable mention for the Pistons and the Tigers...

Zatanna and Vixen were on JL Detroit...why is Z dissing herself?  :-[

Because she's also been on GOOD teams, and knows the difference.

Are you telling me Vibe wasn't an awesome Justice League member?  :P
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on March 28, 2009, 09:02:35 pm
Great wrap up an era of Justice League.  Loved Vixen clowning John.  Love that without J'ohn (whatever his name is) and Batman the whole thing falls apart.  Jordan's reaction makes sense to me. And Canary packing it in does too. 
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on March 30, 2009, 01:03:24 pm
If the team moves back to Detroit for a while I wouldn't be offended.  There are plenty of abandoned factory grounds that could be razed for an HQ, (hey, there's the ancient Central Train Station grounds- http://www.seedetroit.com/pictures/mcsweb/)

I'm sure DC-detroit would appreciate the help with local crime... heck yeah..  ;)

(of course, if they were to set up shop somewhere in the 'burbs, I can see Martha Reeves throwing a fit)..
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on March 30, 2009, 01:59:04 pm
(of course, if they were to set up shop somewhere in the 'burbs, I can see Martha Reeves throwing a fit)..

I smell an assistant editors month!  Councilwoman Reeves gets pissed at the JLA but all is forgiven as they break into Heatwave!  ;D
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on March 30, 2009, 03:01:24 pm
With title and lyrics modified so it's now "Crimewave"?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Vic Vega on March 31, 2009, 08:36:40 pm
Interesting issue.

The Big 3 had been undercutting Canary's authority all thru this run, so Hal's actions make sense (for Hal). As for Ollie, way to stick up for your wife, dude. No wonder she decked him(isn't that spousal abuse? :D )

Canary deciding to pack it in interests me. She usually more stubborn than that but if she can't get her  husband, her oldest friend and the closest thing she has to a son(Roy) to stand by her I can see her thinking "the hell with it" :D

The Detroit League gets a bad rap. That team had J'onn and Zatanna on it. J'onn has every superpower worth having and Zee has magic. With those guys around it really doesn't matter who the other members are.

Moe, Larry, Curly Joe...anybody. They are only there to provide covering fire.

The only utterly useless member of that team was Gypsy.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on April 01, 2009, 07:40:13 am
The only utterly useless member of that team was Gypsy.

An oddly enough, between her, Vixen, Vibe, and Steel, she is my favorite character.  THough I mostly became a fan in Justice League Task Force after she had some training with the Bronze Tiger.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on April 01, 2009, 08:22:32 am
McDuffie is doing a fine job on this book....(JLA is ) one of the few that makes me laugh out loud with almost every single issue.  His bold usage of "sundown town" is just another sly moment in the epic feel that this series has had for most of his run.  Even when Benes is taking a break his replacement comes in and keeps the ball rolling as if they have studied his every detailed line to maintain continuity.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on April 01, 2009, 11:13:32 am
With title and lyrics modified so it's now "Crimewave"?

heh-heh... i'm going to try and come up with some altered lyrics, just for fun..
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on April 06, 2009, 02:05:47 pm
Just "reported" in Lying in the Gutters

"I understand that superstar comic creators Geoff Johns and Jim Lee will be an upcoming creative team on DC’s "Justice League Of America" comic.

Jim Lee is already committed to finishing "All Star Batman And Robin The Boy Wonder" with Frank Miller, as well as the DC multiplayer online game, so the comic may not be announced until the end of comics convention season.

But it’s very likely that at some point in the foreseeable future that JLA will hit the Number One slot again. Which it hasn’t for quite some time, not since they had some fellow called Grant Morrison writing it.

Nice one DC.

Jim Lee declined to comment on the story and Geoff Johns didn't return e-mails by press time."
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Catch22 on April 06, 2009, 02:42:48 pm
Geoff Johns...the Brian Michael Bendis of the DC Universe.  It's great to have an architect in house, but the influence both these guys have at their respective companies is crazy.  I don't think I've seen this level of power in the hands of one person since John Byrne in the 80s.  I just don't want writers like McDuffie to suffer by having super restrictive creative control for the books their writing.  Maybe DMcD's going to be working on more stuff for the Milestone characters that are integrating into the DCU.

BTW...If you haven't read the Teen Titans Annual...it's FIYAH!  Static is unstoppable!
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on April 06, 2009, 03:30:27 pm
I have mixed feelings.. if it was Mr. McDuffie with Jim Lee, hey, get on down... I can't help but to fight the feeling that he's being "pushed out" of the JLA title down the line, for a 'superstar' writer.. i'm sure I'm wrong.. I guess..
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on April 06, 2009, 05:15:15 pm
Geoff Johns...the Brian Michael Bendis of the DC Universe.  It's great to have an architect in house, but the influence both these guys have at their respective companies is crazy.  I don't think I've seen this level of power in the hands of one person since John Byrne in the 80s.  I just don't want writers like McDuffie to suffer by having super restrictive creative control for the books their writing.  Maybe DMcD's going to be working on more stuff for the Milestone characters that are integrating into the DCU.

BTW...If you haven't read the Teen Titans Annual...it's FIYAH!  Static is unstoppable!

No disrespect to McDuffie, but if this is true, I will be in fanboy heaven.  He is similar to Bendis in his control of the DC Universe, but that's where the similarities end.  Geoff is probably my favorite current comics writer and I am excited to see his take on the JLA...if its true.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on April 06, 2009, 07:30:16 pm
"Hypestyle:I have mixed feelings.. if it was Mr. McDuffie with Jim Lee, hey, get on down... I can't help but to fight the feeling that he's being "pushed out" of the JLA title down the line, for a 'superstar' writer.. i'm sure I'm wrong.. I guess..  "

My feeling--McDuffie's was never given a fair chance at the book from the beginning.  Too many distractions from the main storyline (tangent stuff, villain's run, focus on villains month, crossover, losing the big 3, and so on.  Plus the guest writers, and varying artists.  It has killed all momentum on his run.

While I didn't totally accept everything he did on FF, when he wrote FF it was solid, consistant and told an on going story that flowed.  And it was also better than the runs before and after his. 

If he had the opportunity to write JLA that way, the book would still be on my pull list.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: moor on April 07, 2009, 07:35:19 am
If true... that's one less book I need to worry about.


Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on April 13, 2009, 02:56:26 am
Rags Morales interview on the next 2 issues. (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20761)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on April 14, 2009, 07:01:36 am
McDuffie is writing one of the best runs on JLA in recent memory dating back to the 80s....if he leaves that's one less title on the pull list.  It's so much better now than at the beginning with Meltzer. 
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on April 14, 2009, 11:27:03 am
It also sells well - apart from crossover-realted titles (Secret Invasion, Final Crisis, etc.), it's consistently DC's number 1. When it comes to titles standing or falling on their own strengths, JLA is top of the pile.

Also, the editorial interference is amazing - do you realise that Dwayne's never strictly finished his first arc, the Injustice League one? The stuff about Luthor having a bigger plan was meant to be resolved at the time, but then Tangent, FC, Salvation Run, etc came in, and it's been put back until at least after the Sundown Town arc is done.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Princesa on April 16, 2009, 09:34:23 am
No McDuffie means I can happily drop another book. As far as Geoff Johns goes I've seen him mishandle John Stewart enough already (and since the book has no Hal Jordan why would he want it sans his crush?)

I like the way McDuffie has broken down the League to do what you should have been able to in the beginning which is pick his own roster. And I like it.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Princesa on April 18, 2009, 06:45:47 pm
So why hasn't anyone gone to the McDuffie site and asked if the deal is true?  ???
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on April 18, 2009, 08:30:41 pm
In the latest Wizard, Johns says he is about a month away from the biggest comics announcement of his career, so I'd say its probably true.  No disrespect to McDuffie, but I couldn't be happier.  If he can do to it what he did to JSA, then I'll be one happy camper.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Princesa on April 19, 2009, 05:50:42 pm
Well I'm not happy. I dropped the JSA a long time ago and since Sinestro Corps Green Lantern has been boring.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on April 19, 2009, 06:07:53 pm
Well I'm not happy. I dropped the JSA a long time ago and since Sinestro Corps Green Lantern has been boring.

I couldn't disagree more, but different tastes are what make the world go round  :)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on April 19, 2009, 06:58:01 pm
So why hasn't anyone gone to the McDuffie site and asked if the deal is true?  ???

Well on his site McDuffie talks as if he's still the writer...still talks about future storylines. Someone did bring up the Johns/Lee thing and he said it was a book that he'd read lol.

So if they are taking over it won't be for a while yet, it seems.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Princesa on April 19, 2009, 08:08:57 pm
So why hasn't anyone gone to the McDuffie site and asked if the deal is true?  ???

Well on his site McDuffie talks as if he's still the writer...still talks about future storylines. Someone did bring up the Johns/Lee thing and he said it was a book that he'd read lol.

So if they are taking over it won't be for a while yet, it seems.


Expecting the worst I just canceled my JLA's. I get him on an individual basis.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on April 20, 2009, 04:21:32 am
Rememberr DC said there would be a second JL series.  Everyone thought the GL/GA JLA was the 2nd series, but it's a mini, I believe, so what if this is the 2nd series?
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on April 20, 2009, 07:45:22 am
Rememberr DC said there would be a second JL series.  Everyone thought the GL/GA JLA was the 2nd series, but it's a mini, I believe, so what if this is the 2nd series?

I think it was originally a second series but over time that was changed to just a mini series, so that is probably what they were talking about.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on April 20, 2009, 10:57:02 am
Not sure about the consistency of Geoff Johns (dropped his other title a long while back)....Jim Lee would definitely be a win win as a partner in crime.  McDuffie is needed on this title minus all the editorial force feeds.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Princesa on April 21, 2009, 04:20:26 pm
Not sure about the consistency of Geoff Johns (dropped his other title a long while back)....Jim Lee would definitley be a win win as a partner in crime.  McDuffie is needed on this title minus all the editorial force feeds.


They haven't even allowed McDuff to get any kind of flow. And Metzler (who's coffee klatch league I hated) did him no favors. If you're doing a limited run you don't try to lock in a roster. He should have had his mission and then left it with the League wondering what next. If they give Johns a secong JL book I'm good with that.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: KIP LEWIS on April 22, 2009, 07:23:51 pm
Latest issue--as I think I said, I dropped the title from my pull list, but after checking it out on the stand, I bought it; that's what I've been waiting to see.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on May 28, 2009, 06:13:47 pm
Dwayne McDuffie is no longer the writer of JLA: http://dwaynemcduffie.com.lamphost.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=471
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Hypestyle on May 28, 2009, 06:35:46 pm
spoilers--

Dwayne McDuffie should be reinstated as writer of the JLA, without question.. just picked up this month's issue, real good stuff in there, Hardware is in the mix, and is apparently his usual snarky self, to the consternation of everyone else.. it was great that you had Hardware, Vixen, john stewart and firestorm all together, representing.. hey, if the "black avengers" can't happen, then the "black justice league" sure as hell can, especially since there's this hal jordan/Green arrow spinoff group.. Make it happen, DC.. now!

and my man Icon shows up at the end.. but Dharma's on the ropes.. bleeding.. what is that, exactly?  and he was "holding together the universe"? hmm...  glad to see that Milestone peeps have true value in the DCU..

I have to say, I'm extremely ticked at DC editorial.. I want the Maestro as the maestro of JLA for many years to come.. bah! If Geoff Johns and Grant Morrisson and Brian Bendis and Mark Millar and the like can more of less get free rein on the books they want to inhabit, then the same should go for Mr. McD.. 

My hope is that fan protest is so loud that DC editorial will have no choice but to bring back the Maestro in the near future..
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: BlackRodimus on May 28, 2009, 11:35:00 pm
Reinstating him is tantamount to admitting they were wrong in the first place, so I don't see that happening.

Still, I'm hoping someday he has Didio's job.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on May 29, 2009, 11:50:45 am
Reinstating him is tantamount to admitting they were wrong in the first place, so I don't see that happening.

Still, I'm hoping someday he has Didio's job.
Seconded. This is ridiculous, and Dc have probably just lost this customer on JLA.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: stanleyballard on May 29, 2009, 02:02:54 pm
Agreed.  If McDuffie's not writing JLA then his last issue will be my last issue too.   >:(
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Mastrmynd on May 29, 2009, 04:14:22 pm
it's official.
i've dropped this book.
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on May 31, 2009, 09:57:59 pm
It's so sad. I really enjoyed this issue. 

Not that I should be surprised, but comments by the haters on other boards really pissed me off.  The things they were complaining about on his run of the book...were exactly the things HE was compliaining about. 
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on June 17, 2009, 06:49:34 pm
http://comiccritics.com/2009/06/16/the-sad-strange-tale-of-dwayne-mcduffie/
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Redjack on June 20, 2009, 12:48:03 am
posted this on DMac's forums.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3298/3643479336_f6779a504d.jpg)

Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Wise Son on June 20, 2009, 08:31:20 am
posted this on DMac's forums.
([url]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3298/3643479336_f6779a504d.jpg[/url])



The awesome is strong in this one, Geoff. 8)
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Princesa on July 25, 2009, 04:15:24 pm
They let Robinson walk into the book and have total control of his team. Bastards. I hate when evil wins >:(
Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: Seven on August 30, 2009, 05:39:34 pm
They let Robinson walk into the book and have total control of his team. Bastards. I hate when evil wins >:(
wow, really. WTF...

I dropped all my DC books anyhow.I was going to keep reading JLA, but after they let him go, I dropped that also.

Title: Re: McDuffie's JLA Thread.
Post by: JLI Jesse on August 30, 2009, 05:49:35 pm
I dropped all my DC books anyhow.I was going to keep reading JLA, but after they let him go, I dropped that also.

Really?  I'm the reverse.  I've dropped most of my Marvel books other than GotG, Nova, X-Factor, and Captain America.    I used to buy basically everything but i just stopped caring with Bendis and Dark Reign running the show.