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Title: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on October 18, 2008, 11:08:17 am
Building my first new rig, so I thought Id' ask. And if you're one of those cappuccino drinking, rich-ass Apple owners, keep it to yourself. :p
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Sam Wilson on October 18, 2008, 11:28:17 am
I've always had mac's since 1993. 

And I don't like cappacino, I prefer chai late's with soy milk, chilled.  If you have to ask...  :P
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on October 18, 2008, 11:36:37 am
I've always had mac's since 1993.

Dear God, WHY? The only thing I could do with a Mac is sell it. I just don't get the hype.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Blanks on October 18, 2008, 11:39:18 am
I got a PC for surfing, word-processing and all that good stuff.

Now for my comic and graphic art creating, got me a Mac g4.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Sam Wilson on October 18, 2008, 11:52:20 am
I dunno, my mac's have never crashed, itunes and iphoto is pretty neat. I have a PS3 and xbox360 for video games so I'm good there.  And all the PC's I ever used at work are retarded, never had a problem with my mac.  Never crashed, nothing.  I have a new Imac G5 with the Intel, its less than a year old.  Probably going to buy a new ibook within a year or so...
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on October 18, 2008, 12:16:18 pm
It's funny. Macs are all you find in school. I remember the days of ClarisWorks (hee!), and the newspaper lab was full of Macs. But I hate them. Maybe it's because I'm always taking computers apart and upgrading/building them. I have two of them sitting on my dining room table now - one's mine and one is my friend's.  ;D

But I AM having trouble powering up my new rig...WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!! I think I may have seated the processor wrong, and God help me if that's the case.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Goat on October 18, 2008, 03:28:28 pm
If the processor is seated wrong the motherboard will give a three beep sound alert. It could be (if nothing is powering up at all such as the fans and stuff) the power supply. Power supplies won’t power up if the screws are not in. It has to be attached to the case by all screws before it will power up. I would try unhooking everything and not putting in any I/O cards first. Just the motherboard, ram and processor, key board and mouse and monitor hooked to the on board video port of the main board. The cmos will still post even with no hard drive. If its still not powering make sure their isn’t a case motherboard screw post in the wrong place. If one is out of place it may be making contact to the bottom of the board which will ground fault it and keep it from powering up.

I don’t mind Mac’s they are really good for graphics. However I prefer self built PC’s. For one you get a lot more bang for the bucks when you build it yourself. Another advantage is the wide range of cases to choose from, the ability to pick and choose exactly what peripherals you want such as DVD, RW’s , better video cards, how much ram, processor speed, hard drive size.. etc. etc.. Lastly and the most important reason for building one yourself is the clean installation of a OEM windows OS. Dell, Sony, Hp and other manufactures PC’s all come loaded full of pure crap. Tons of garbage software that slow done your PC, run in the background and cripple the PC’s performance. Clean OS installations give you exactly what you need and want without the trash. Without the pre-loaded junk, nor any recovery disk that only reloads the refuse when a problem occurs, clean installations from OEM Windows disk results in sound and stable machines. My main PC has been running straight for two years, never once has it become unstable. PC’s are the way to go for gaming, internet, word processing, finance and publishing. Mac’s for graphics. Although Photoshop, Illustrator, Macromedia Flash and Dreamweaver all work just fine on a well built PC.

Back to the power problem, you might also try just the power switch on the boards front panel pins.. you don’t need the led’s or reset switch to power it up. If all else fails try removing the main board from the case, placing it on a foam surface leave the power supply in the case, one stick of ram and the processor in, video on the on board port, mouse and keyboard plugged in to the ps2 jacks not the usb’s. Then use a small screwdriver to cross the power pins or else plug in the power pin and use the case switch. The board should post, access the cmos utility and make sure the processor is correctly recognized. Let me know how it goes and if none of this works or you’re still having problems powering it up. 

* Just trying to help Jenn, it sounds like you might already know all of this since you've got a lot of experience building PC's. My company often times includes in AV installations Media Center PC's to use in sound distribution for home and office systems, we build them for specific Media purposes but they are still Windows OS PC's so if I can help with any trouble shooting let me know.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on October 18, 2008, 05:57:49 pm
If the processor is seated wrong the motherboard will give a three beep sound alert. It could be (if nothing is powering up at all such as the fans and stuff) the power supply. Power supplies won’t power up if the screws are not in. It has to be attached to the case by all screws before it will power up.

Goat, are you married?  :-* :-* :-* :-*

I don’t mind Mac’s they are really good for graphics. However I prefer self built PC’s. For one you get a lot more bang for the bucks when you build it yourself. Another advantage is the wide range of cases to choose from, the ability to pick and choose exactly what peripherals you want such as DVD, RW’s , better video cards, how much ram, processor speed, hard drive size.. etc. etc..

Damn skippy! I've been agonizing over HTPC cases for a week now. Ain't choice grand? Macs...bleh. They just whip it out and hit you in the forehead with it. "HERE, dammit!"
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Sam Wilson on October 19, 2008, 04:36:59 am


Damn skippy! I've been agonizing over HTPC cases for a week now. Ain't choice grand? Macs...bleh. They just whip it out and hit you in the forehead with it. "HERE, dammit!"

I'd prefer it if you said, "they shove titties in your face like an underage girl at a nightclub".  I'm just sayin', if you're making metaphors...
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Mastrmynd on October 19, 2008, 09:12:06 am
hahahaha
u got a point there sam.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Vic Vega on October 20, 2008, 02:15:40 pm
I've got a PC that's little more than a obsolete paperweight at this point.  All my arty-friends own Macs tho. Its pretty much the industry standard for guys in the visual arts.

I'd say that the visual arts pros make up 90% of Apple's market. And since these guys are ALWAYS flush with cash (when they are employed at all that is) they can afford to upgrade to the lateest version of Final Cut Pro or Photoshop or whatever.

The concept of Macs being for everybody is a relatively new one. The first Imacs were nearly impossible to upgrade. The Ipod is probably Mac's only true mass-market item.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Catch22 on October 21, 2008, 08:11:59 am
I live in a divided house.  I'm a PC/Linux guy and my wife's a Mac woman.  I have the entire site wirelessly networked with repeaters and antennas at opposite corners...I'm like a hot spot for the neighborhood. LOL  She loves her Mac, but she doesn't complain about the way our Entertainment Centers are networked using PC media centers.  I build all my own setups and have quite a few going right now.  My web server runs Ubuntu Linux, my mini lab has a box with VMware so I can experiment and I've also got one using Orb that gives me free slingbox-like capabilities.  She's been using Macs since college, but every now and then she sneaks over to where the real power is.   ;D
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Hypestyle on October 21, 2008, 08:55:11 am
are there classes you can take for Pc building & basic repair? just wondering..
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Catch22 on October 21, 2008, 09:47:09 am
are there classes you can take for Pc building & basic repair? just wondering..

There are plenty of classes available for the entry level stuff.  Some are even offered online.  When you take your class or get your book or however you plan to learn, IMO, the best thing to do is to get a machine and tear that sucker apart and put it back together.  Nothing beats hands on experience. 
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Goat on October 28, 2008, 11:36:32 pm
If the processor is seated wrong the motherboard will give a three beep sound alert. It could be (if nothing is powering up at all such as the fans and stuff) the power supply. Power supplies won’t power up if the screws are not in. It has to be attached to the case by all screws before it will power up.

Goat, are you married?  :-* :-* :-* :-*

I don’t mind Mac’s they are really good for graphics. However I prefer self built PC’s. For one you get a lot more bang for the bucks when you build it yourself. Another advantage is the wide range of cases to choose from, the ability to pick and choose exactly what peripherals you want such as DVD, RW’s , better video cards, how much ram, processor speed, hard drive size.. etc. etc..

Damn skippy! I've been agonizing over HTPC cases for a week now. Ain't choice grand? Macs...bleh. They just whip it out and hit you in the forehead with it. "HERE, dammit!"

Dayam! if I knew I got it right on the first guess I could have skipped all that other stuff!! LOL..

p.s. I'm happily married with children.. but if I wasn't I'd be all over that offer Jenn!!  :-*  :-*
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on October 29, 2008, 10:24:27 am
p.s. I'm happily married with children..

Damn, damn, DAMN!!!!
Title: BEHOLD!!!!!
Post by: Jenn on October 29, 2008, 07:40:07 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/rattlerbrat82/HTPC/htpc.jpg)

This shelf was a lot bigger than I expected it to be (I just got it yesterday). It measures 38" across. So it looks like I'll be able to keep it for a TV as large as a 32" or possibly a 37", but probably a 32". This kicks ass, since I was just getting this stand to tide me over until I got  big TV, which would have required a big TV stand. It's hard to tell in the pic, but that's a 24" LCD monitor. Looks downright PUNY on top of this case. Gee darn, looks like I'm just going to have to get a 37" LCD like I wanted.  ;D

I'll probably move the rig to the bottom left hand corner and place a VCR-to-DVD converter in the top right where the rig is currently sitting. It's a big 'un, but I specifically chose a large case for overclocking - most OC coolers tend to stand upright, like so:

(http://www.hardware.info/images/news/thermalright_true_black_120_01_01.jpg)

Now I have to figure out what the heck I'm going to do with these cords. :( Still, I'm pretty damn proud of it, seeing that it's my first.

Lessee, specs:

Motherboard: DFI BloodIron P35-T2RL
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz
Case: Thermaltake Mozart
RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2x2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 800 (5-5-5-15)
Monitor: SCEPTRE X24WG-1080P
Video card: GeForce 7350LE (shut up)
Hard drives: 500 GB 7200 rpm SATA (x3)
PSU: OCZ600SXS 600W

As soon as I can afford the cooler, i can finally start overclocking. I hear the E8400 can OC up to 4.3 GHz on air easily. I know people into watercooling, but it's just not that crucial to me.
Title: Re: BEHOLD!!!!!
Post by: Marvelous on October 29, 2008, 08:15:58 pm
Video card: GeForce 7350LE (shut up)

 :o
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on October 29, 2008, 10:58:54 pm
Video card: GeForce 7350LE (shut up)


 :o


(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p16/Pedurris/Edu/Yoda-shutup.jpg)
Title: Re: BEHOLD!!!!!
Post by: Sam Wilson on October 30, 2008, 04:11:39 am
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/rattlerbrat82/HTPC/htpc.jpg[/url])

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spookiest forum momment ever, Jenn and I have the same desktop wallpaper (except mine is on my superior bourgeise Mac).  Huh.  No big suprize I guess...
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on October 30, 2008, 01:27:10 pm
Jenn,

A few questions:

1. Are you going with Blu-Ray?
2. Are you using a TV Tuner/Capture card?
3. Does the Mozart take full size PCI-E cards or just low-profile?


That's the cleanest HTPC setup I've seen.  My TV stand looks like it had a bad case of peripheral diarrhea..
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Mastrmynd on October 30, 2008, 01:35:42 pm
very clean.

Jenn, do u suffer from OCD or are u just generally a neat freak?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on October 31, 2008, 12:53:39 am
1. Are you going with Blu-Ray?


Hell no. As far as I'm concerned, it's a waste of money. Then again, people swear that 720p is just as good as 1080p, and I call those people cheap bastards.  ;D

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2. Are you using a TV Tuner/Capture card?


Yes, a Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1600. My old monitor (20" Magnavox) had a built in tuner; this one doesn't.

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3. Does the Mozart take full size PCI-E cards or just low-profile?


Full size. I'm out of town now, but when I get home, I'll take the top off and snap a picture. It's pretty roomy. But it's BIG, no better than taking an average desktop tower and putting it on its side. I only got it because I knew it would accommodate a Thermalright Ultra 120 cooler, which I need for overclocking. There are much, much cleaner HTPC cases than that one. Even the Mozart comes in a slim case:

(http://www.case4htpc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/thermaltake-mozart-sx-vc7001sns-0111.jpg)

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That's the cleanest HTPC setup I've seen.  My TV stand looks like it had a bad case of peripheral diarrhea..


Thanks! Shoooot, it better be clean; it took over an hour just to put it together.

Jenn, do u suffer from OCD or are u just generally a neat freak?


The former.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on November 18, 2008, 06:26:14 am
So...it turns out that the Mozart does NOT support the Ultra 120 Extreme, at least not on a DFI BloodIron. Have I really been building an HTPC around a HEAT SINK? Yes, I have. Time to start over. Goodbye and godspeed, Mozart Media Lab. I actually like it, but I only got it because I thought I'd be using the 120 Extreme, and since I won't be using that heat sink, I believe I'm going to take the plunge and get the Zalman HD135 for a case instead.

(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8603/dsc4166edited1fk7.jpg)

I'll have to go on the stroll to pay for it, but this will be the 3rd case I've bought and sent back in less than two months, so it's time to quit bullsh*tting. I could get a HD160 for $230 shipped, but that volume knob just looks so stupid to me.

(http://www.quietpc.com/nz/images/hd160s.jpg)

On the upside, I did replace my GeForce 7350LE w/a GeForce 9800 GT. Nothing to write home about, but I can at least hold my head up.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Mastrmynd on November 18, 2008, 07:10:50 am
dayam jenn... you're a hardcore PC person!
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on November 18, 2008, 08:41:47 am
Not really. I just don't feel like doing any of this again, and I'm dying to start overclocking.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on November 18, 2008, 01:06:10 pm
Aw man!!!


Wouldn't the Shuriken mini-cooler have fit the Mozart?  I hear (yeh, yeh, I know what that's worth) generally good things about the Shuriken minis/ Ninja HTPC coolers..?

Hrmmm... After the Mozart, I don't know what to say that could help.. I'm guessing you can't stand the Antec Veris line, if the big knob doesn't do anything for you. 

How bout one of those t 
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on November 18, 2008, 02:07:43 pm
Truth be told, I just don't think any HTPC case can fit the 120 Extreme except for the Remote Max. I'm over it. There are other coolers out there, ones that'll hopefully give me far less grief.

I'm getting used to the knob; I was looking at the Zalman over the Antec because of the built-in media card reader. (That and I'm just not a fan of the FB430 look.) I've read good stuff about the Zalman HD160 and how it cools well. The HD135 seems to be very iffy, coolingwise. So it looks like it's going to be the HD160, knob and all. I get to test out a HD135 tomorrow, but for the price I had to pay to get it here by tomorrow, it can't stay. (It just can't.) Thank goodness for credit cards and liberal return policies...
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Mastrmynd on November 18, 2008, 02:37:08 pm
wow. this is like reading a foreign language.
i have no idea what you're talkin' about.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Wise Son on November 19, 2008, 04:20:34 pm
wow. this is like reading a foreign language.
i have no idea what you're talkin' about.
Just imagine if SI was into computers like this lot! :o
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on November 19, 2008, 05:58:57 pm
Okay, in an exercise of sheer masochism, I swapped out the Thermaltake Mozart w/the Zalman HC135.

(http://i38.tinypic.com/33jl1ch.jpg)

It looks a lot better, but for the price they're asking (around $350), I'm seriously underwhelmed. For starters, there's a place to put a media reader, but there's no reader included. I'm sorry, but for that price, they should've thrown one in. Another thing: in order to put your power supply in properly, you have to put it in backwards. So the fan at the bottom which should be cooling the area where the processor in is actually blowing air OUTSIDE OF THE CASE, which completely defeats the purpose of spending $70 on a freaking power supply with a freaking fan at the bottom to keep the inside cool. With a lot of work (which would include a drill), it could work out very well, but for a $350 case, I shouldn't have to break out a drill. Back to Amazon with this crap!

The fan included is loud as hell, and my video card is running hotter than a mug (77 degrees C). Any recommendations? I do love the heck out of it, though - could've sprung for the GTX, but I'm not exactly playing Crysis or some crap like that.

Even better news: my hard drive crashed today. Nothing on it - I back everything up to a 1 TB external drive - but it's still aggravating as hell because I can't find my copy of 64-bit Ultimate. And what's the use of building this kind of system and putting in a 32-bit OS?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on November 23, 2008, 10:26:32 pm
I know Newegg sells heatsinks for NVIDIA cards.. It's late and I'm too lazy to scour the silentpcreview posts naming the brand.  I'll check tomorrow for name and price..

What about using a software solution to ramp down the fan, if you don't feel like voiding the warranty? (Rivatuner/Powerstrip or whatever they call it these days?)

Are the case fans multi-speed/user controllable?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on November 24, 2008, 02:18:23 am
I just got this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270298339549) off eBay; I'm sending the other one back. (It was supposed to be black; they sent me a silver one.) This one is coming with quiet cooling and two speed controllers. Plus it has a 17-in-1 media reader, which is what the other one should've come with. I don't like the design very much (the one I have is sooooo much nicer), but I'm sick of swapping cases.

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Are the case fans multi-speed/user controllable?


Not to my knowledge, which is why I'm glad my auction is coming with extra stuff. We'll see how this goes.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on November 25, 2008, 01:30:03 pm
Ok, the vid cooler was by Zalman also.. the VF900 CU.  runs for ~$32+ at the 'Egg, probably cheaper elsewhere. 

I can't believe Zalman wouldn't make the case fans user friendly though.. Wow.  I guess Antec got that part right, at least.

And you stole that damn, case.  Very nice!!
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on November 26, 2008, 06:16:16 am
The guy I sniped it from would've had it for $106.50. I'm sooooo bitter. Remember, shipping was $30.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on December 18, 2008, 11:11:58 pm
BEHOLD!!!!

(http://i42.tinypic.com/14shyj7.jpg)

I'm going to paint some wood black and attach it to the back of the shelves in order to hide the cords. Other than that, that's the layout. I still have so much internal work to do - I haven't even begun to start overclocking yet (just got my heatsink), but this is going to be the setup for a long time. Kind of wish I'd gotten a 37", but I only paid $500 for the 32" 1080p HDTV, and I raied $650 by selling my 20" HDTV and my 24" monitor. I'm pretty damn happy. Overall, I only came out of pocket about $400.

Now I get to rub it in the faces of all the bitch niggas who said a GIRRRRRRRRRRL couldn't build a rig.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on December 19, 2008, 10:43:06 am
High Art.

1080p for $500?? 

The Haters will never stop coming after you!

You went Intel, IIRC?  I'm guessing the setup's been rock solid so far...   (damn you, AMD..)

I'd like to know how the TV tuning/capture is coming.. are you using any special tuning software other than MediaCenter? 
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on December 19, 2008, 04:10:56 pm
1080p for $500??


Check it out! (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889112024) The complaints about the remote are true (whooo, it's slow) and I had to order a HDMI-to-DVI cable (cheap bastids - and WTF do I have a 32" TV with a PLASTIC stand!?), but the picture is great and the sound is pretty solid. I had to put in my old video card b/c the TV doesn't support a DVI cable and my setup doesn't support VGA (which I don't like, but whatever), so I can't wait to get my cable and see what the picture looks like with my GT 9800.

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You went Intel, IIRC?


E8400. My old setup was an Athlon, so I had to start all over with EVERYTHING, right down to the RAM and the case. I'll write up the specs and post them.

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I'd like to know how the TV tuning/capture is coming.. are you using any special tuning software other than MediaCenter? 


I'm not, but I'm open to suggestions. I don't hardly watch TV, so that's not really much of an issue.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Goat on December 20, 2008, 12:21:39 pm
That's a nice set up.. too bad about the non DVI input on that unit. They really should make that standard.

anyway.. ok I'll show you the "Goat Room" now don't go hating.. after all I own an AV install company.. its sort of what I do and all so of course my home theater/media room sort of rocks..

(http://www.avcbiz.com/Installs/Mainsys.jpg)
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on December 21, 2008, 04:58:22 am
That's a nice set up.. too bad about the non DVI input on that unit. They really should make that standard.

The crazy thing is that it was on my 24" Sceptre monitor! This one supports everything BUT a VGA. It even supports S-Video. I didn't even know people still used S-Video.

As for your setup:

1) It is worthy of head.
2) It is worthy of slow head.
3) Is that a fuzzy pink sofa in such a manly room?

I may have to get rid of the shelf (I just bought it!!!) because if I put wood on the back of it, my HTPC case will stick out of the front. BAWWWWWW!!!!!
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on December 23, 2008, 09:37:14 am
that couch looks beige to me.  the flash on the camera makes it brighter than it is....right Goat?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on December 23, 2008, 11:51:54 am
Surrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre it is.  ;D

Thoughts on going from a GeForce 9800GT to a Radeon HD 4850? Would there be any significant difference, or would the difference not be worth the money spent?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Goat on December 23, 2008, 12:17:38 pm
LMAO! yeah it's beige... but I wouldn't be opposed to fluffy pink.. if I was getting head at the time.. well truth be told I wouldn't be opposed to any dayam color couch if I was getting head at the time.. LOL.

Thanks for the kind words on the setup..
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on December 28, 2008, 08:40:23 pm
Surrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre it is.  ;D

Thoughts on going from a GeForce 9800GT to a Radeon HD 4850? Would there be any significant difference, or would the difference not be worth the money spent?

Benchmarks be damned, but I'm hard pressed to see where the 4850 would be an improvement, unless you can find it for around a buck - buck twenty-five. 

..but this is coming from a guy so cheap he went with a 4670.   :D
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Marvelous on December 29, 2008, 03:19:31 pm
A lil off topic maybe, but Microsoft got there own deal in "computer leasing" in the works if you haven't heard about it.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081229-microsoft-patents-granular-approach-to-computer-leasing.html

Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Goat on December 31, 2008, 08:01:58 am
Yeah I heard they plan on charging by mouse click... double clicks cost three times the price.

Typical Billy Gate Keeper type offering.. why buy a crappy PC for $300 or build a kick ass one for $1000 when you can lease a refurbished IBM 33mhz with 8megs of ram for $50 a month plus a nickel a mouse click?

Sounds like a deal to me..... NOT.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Catch22 on December 31, 2008, 10:32:29 am
Yeah I heard they plan on charging by mouse click... double clicks cost three times the price.

Typical Billy Gate Keeper type offering.. why buy a crappy PC for $300 or build a kick ass one for $1000 when you can lease a refurbished IBM 33mhz with 8megs of ram for $50 a month plus a nickel a mouse click?

Sounds like a deal to me..... NOT.

LOL  you got that right, Goat.  It's WAY cheaper to just build your own rig and upgrade your components when you need to.  This pay as you go crap should have gone the way of CompuServe and Prodigy.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Vic Vega on December 31, 2008, 01:53:37 pm
A lil off topic maybe, but Microsoft got there own deal in "computer leasing" in the works if you haven't heard about it.

[url]http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081229-microsoft-patents-granular-approach-to-computer-leasing.html[/url]




Duh.

Anybody who computer useage is so limited as to make this option viable is ALREADY RENTING computer sevices at places like Kinko's or your local internet cafe. This might have been a good idea a decade ago. 

Microsoft just has to face the fact that they've mostly run out of folks to sell P.C.s to.

All the average consumer needs is something to type out the occasional resume' on in between bouts of trolling for free net-porn. How much computer do you need to do that? If the PSP had a Word application, I'd never need a computer in my house again. I think the I-Phone does have a Word application! I can type up a resume, surf Youtube, and call my nearest pizza place while in the john. Let's see a P.C. do alla that. 

I am conviced that if it wasn't for MMORPGS, P.C. makers would starve.

There's a whole generation of gamers that don't see the point in using a P.C. to game on. Its only the W.O.W guys and The Second Lifers that keep the P.C. business model sustainable somewhat. The mugs who need to use P.C. for work practically live at their offices anyway.

Say what you what about The Cult Of Jobs (Jobseians? Jobists? Jobites?), but at least they are selling stuff to folks that need Mac products as either as tools (nearly the entire entertainment industry) or fashion statements (everybody who has a Mac and AIN'T in entertainment).

P.C. aren't even useful as a fashion statement.

Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on January 02, 2009, 07:31:35 pm
I've had to switch to dial-up because the modem won't allow the broadband to come through. For the past 2 weeks; I can't watch a youtube/dailymotion video without constant buffering.

I have basic vista and while the videos would run perfectly in the past, they have been virtually unwatchable since.

Can you help tech-wizards?

Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Goat on January 03, 2009, 10:22:26 am
"because the modem won't allow the broadband to come through"

Huh? sorry Sarge I don't get it? the modem on your PC/Mac or Atari1000? or are you saying the modem from the broadband provider doesn't work?

You don't use the computer's modem for broadband, you use the Ethernet I/O card. Basically YOU NEED BROADBAND!!! Not sure why you would use Dial-up. For one it cost almost as much as broadband.

Give me more information, i.e which broadband provider were you using? which dial-up service are you using now? and explain more exactly why the "modem won't allow the broadband to come through"?

I'm a tech-wizard but this is rather confusing to even a wizard.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on January 03, 2009, 02:57:23 pm
"because the modem won't allow the broadband to come through"

Huh? sorry Sarge I don't get it? the modem on your PC/Mac or Atari1000? or are you saying the modem from the broadband provider doesn't work?

You don't use the computer's modem for broadband, you use the Ethernet I/O card. Basically YOU NEED BROADBAND!!! Not sure why you would use Dial-up. For one it cost almost as much as broadband.

Give me more information, i.e which broadband provider were you using? which dial-up service are you using now? and explain more exactly why the "modem won't allow the broadband to come through"?

I'm a tech-wizard but this is rather confusing to even a wizard.

I'll try to get it right this time.

I had AOL Broadband, there was something going wrong with it and I called AOL and they had me uninstall it. After that the videos were still playing smoothly, I also have DSL from Verizon and that TOO started acting up!

I did some more research and found that dial-up is too slow for streaming video. I will be getting on AOL now >:( to get my broadband back as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Cheirel on January 07, 2009, 02:34:23 pm
I looked at this kinda chuckled because I'm a closet Mac lover. I had probably the the first e-book that came out. But of course the men in my life who build their own etclauched and teased me to death. I had to grow up. Now I have some cute thing complete with remote control but  I still long for my Apple and probably 5 computers later.

My poor kid gets her 2nd computer PC cute pink nice. She comes to me in tears ALL the kids are teasing her because she didn't get MAC.

OKAY HEFFas do I go against the men get baby girl a MAC or let her work it out?
and 2 what spoiled ass brats that the whole class gets new computers for Christmas aren't we in a recession? I am...

HELP!!!
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on January 07, 2009, 04:33:44 pm
Go ahead and spend that two grand on pink plastic, girl! Shiiiiiit, if my kid had come to me crying over a Mac, I'd take that PC back to the store and buy me a Big Mac!  ;D She can get a Mac when she has some Mac money.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Cheirel on January 07, 2009, 05:26:39 pm
Go ahead and spend that two grand on pink plastic, girl! Shiiiiiit, if my kid had come to me crying over a Mac, I'd take that PC back to the store and buy me a Big Mac!  ;D She can get a Mac when she has some Mac money.

She's 11! I'll be waiting along time for her to get a job dude.....
I'm just worried what will be mandatory in later grades >:(
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on January 07, 2009, 07:07:32 pm
You know what? My aunt was taking a college course and she was struggling through some Computer Literacy class. I looked over the book and saw that the office suite they were using was 2007, and she was still using Office 2003. This course REQUIRED the students to upgrade to 2007 - the two suites (Excel in particular) are nowhere CLOSE to being alike, and there's no way she would've passed trying to float by on 2003 (which is still a perfectly good office suite). Now what kind of shullbit is THAT? As much as the textbook was ($125 new; no old books available), it should've at least come with a student version!
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Cheirel on January 07, 2009, 07:39:14 pm
You know what? My aunt was taking a college course and she was struggling through some Computer Literacy class. I looked over the book and saw that the office suite they were using was 2007, and she was still using Office 2003. This course REQUIRED the students to upgrade to 2007 - the two suites (Excel in particular) are nowhere CLOSE to being alike, and there's no way she would've passed trying to float by on 2003 (which is still a perfectly good office suite). Now what kind of shullbit is THAT? As much as the textbook was ($125 new; no old books available), it should've at least come with a student version!

At least you Aunt has a job! We have to buy books for 8 classes and let's not talk about the extras. But she is a Honor student . Not to many kids pull up their grades before their parents. But I'm going need food stamps and a relief check  :-\
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on January 07, 2009, 07:46:13 pm
You know what? My aunt was taking a college course and she was struggling through some Computer Literacy class. I looked over the book and saw that the office suite they were using was 2007, and she was still using Office 2003. This course REQUIRED the students to upgrade to 2007 - the two suites (Excel in particular) are nowhere CLOSE to being alike, and there's no way she would've passed trying to float by on 2003 (which is still a perfectly good office suite). Now what kind of shullbit is THAT? As much as the textbook was ($125 new; no old books available), it should've at least come with a student version!
I agree.

I may have said this elsewhere, but I refuse to buy another got damn version of M$ Office. I went OpenOffice with my latest laptop and I'm fine with it.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on January 07, 2009, 08:07:37 pm
At least you Aunt has a job! We have to buy books for 8 classes and let's not talk about the extras. But she is a Honor student . Not to many kids pull up their grades before their parents. But I'm going need food stamps and a relief check  :-\

Wait a minute! What the hell kind of school makes a kid BUY books!? What happened to the good old fashioned public schools where you got issued books that were 14 years old and passed on from the good schools, a la "Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry"?
Title: One more reason why HTPCs rule:
Post by: Jenn on January 31, 2009, 09:42:13 pm
High speed monthly internet: $30
Wireless card for computer: $35
HDTV doubling as computer monitor: $500
Being able to stream PPV fights and championship tennis matches for FREE when you don't have cable: priceless

(http://i43.tinypic.com/dyaccp.png)

There are some things money can buy. For everybody else, there's bootleg.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on February 01, 2009, 11:54:17 am
Where are you getting high-speed from for $30 monthly????
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on February 01, 2009, 01:17:25 pm
Road Runner, an offshoot of Time Warner Cable. It was one of those special offers. It's supposed to be for 12 months. We'll see...
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on April 01, 2009, 11:57:36 am
Is anyone here using a USB/PCI TV tuner?  I'm thinking about dumping my cable this month, and using the HTPC to DVR shows.  Any help would be greatly appreciated..
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Catch22 on April 01, 2009, 12:28:44 pm
Is anyone here using a USB/PCI TV tuner?  I'm thinking about dumping my cable this month, and using the HTPC to DVR shows.  Any help would be greatly appreciated..

This is the GOAT's realm of expertise, but I'll see if I don't mess you up too bad! LOL  Hauppauge has a line of USB HDTV tuners that are capable of picking up the DTV signal like the boxes their selling for TVs.  Their WinTV line has been at the forefront of PC tuners for a long time.  They're not too expensive either, I'm sure you can pick up one between $50 and $100 online easy.  I've used their PCI products before and they've been really solid.  Just make sure you have enough disk space for the PVR because I think a one hour show will take up 4-5 GB of disk space.  You can always go back and archive them in a different, more compressed format for the stuff you really want to keep, or write them to a DVD.  GOAT, if I messed up, don't thrash me about the head and shoulders!  :D
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on April 01, 2009, 01:25:37 pm
What does a TV tuner DO? I have one and have no idea what to do with it.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Wise Son on April 02, 2009, 12:12:00 pm
Can I beg for help? I had to reinstall windows XP (OK, the shop originally sold us a computer with a pirate copy of Windows - despite us paying for a  proper one, and I finally got a legal copy), and I formatted my main drive with no problem, and DIDN'T format my second drive. However, now windows works alright, but I can't access my second drive, as windows now says it has spontaneously changed to a 'dynamic' drive, which XP can't read. I never made that change, and I really need to change it back. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Catch22 on April 02, 2009, 05:44:40 pm
What does a TV tuner DO? I have one and have no idea what to do with it.


The TV Tuner basically lets you watch TV and/or connect video devices to your PC, features range from basic TV signal display to HDTV and PVR (Personal Video Recording).  What you can do with it depends on the model you have.  Basic connections are usually analog TV signal (cable tv, over the air antenna, etc).   

Can I beg for help? I had to reinstall windows XP (OK, the shop originally sold us a computer with a pirate copy of Windows - despite us paying for a  proper one, and I finally got a legal copy), and I formatted my main drive with no problem, and DIDN'T format my second drive. However, now windows works alright, but I can't access my second drive, as windows now says it has spontaneously changed to a 'dynamic' drive, which XP can't read. I never made that change, and I really need to change it back. Any ideas?

First question...is this Windows XP Professional or Home Basic Edition?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Battle on April 03, 2009, 07:45:01 am
My turn!

How do you import digital movies into Adobe Premiere and convert them into .gifs

...the easy way?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on April 03, 2009, 08:11:45 am
What does a TV tuner DO? I have one and have no idea what to do with it.

Wait.. I thought you were getting PPV and tennis thru your tuner before you had the cable service??
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Wise Son on April 03, 2009, 11:51:33 am
Can I beg for help? I had to reinstall windows XP (OK, the shop originally sold us a computer with a pirate copy of Windows - despite us paying for a  proper one, and I finally got a legal copy), and I formatted my main drive with no problem, and DIDN'T format my second drive. However, now windows works alright, but I can't access my second drive, as windows now says it has spontaneously changed to a 'dynamic' drive, which XP can't read. I never made that change, and I really need to change it back. Any ideas?

First question...is this Windows XP Professional or Home Basic Edition?
Home Basic Edition. I know the Professional can read dynamic. Dammit. :'(
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Catch22 on April 03, 2009, 01:13:21 pm
Can I beg for help? I had to reinstall windows XP (OK, the shop originally sold us a computer with a pirate copy of Windows - despite us paying for a  proper one, and I finally got a legal copy), and I formatted my main drive with no problem, and DIDN'T format my second drive. However, now windows works alright, but I can't access my second drive, as windows now says it has spontaneously changed to a 'dynamic' drive, which XP can't read. I never made that change, and I really need to change it back. Any ideas?


First question...is this Windows XP Professional or Home Basic Edition?

Home Basic Edition. I know the Professional can read dynamic. Dammit. :'(



You usually can't change back without deleting the volumes that make up the dynamic disk, therefore losing all of your data in the process.  If you don't mind losing whatever it was on the second drive, you can follow these steps to change it back to a basic disk...

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc776315.aspx (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc776315.aspx)


If you have to have the data on the disk, you can try the steps on this old Windows 2000 article to get them back, but be careful because it could be a little tricky if you're not sure of what you're doing. 

http://faq.arstechnica.com/link.php?i=1806 (http://faq.arstechnica.com/link.php?i=1806)

Or you could place the drive in a Windows XP Pro system, copy all your data to dvd or cd and then do the steps in the first article. 

Barring these things, you'll probably have to use a third party data recovery software to try and get your data off before you can convert it back to a regular basic disc. 

I hope this helps.

My turn!

How do you import digital movies into Adobe Premiere and convert them into .gifs

...the easy way?



This is probably a question for the GOATster, too.  I don't use AP...I know there's a free program called Gimp that has an animation plugin pack that some people use to convert video to gif. 

http://www.gimp.org (http://www.gimp.org)
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on April 03, 2009, 07:48:17 pm

Wait.. I thought you were getting PPV and tennis thru your tuner before you had the cable service??

No, my HTPC has a wireless internet card. I was just streaming them online. I still don't have cable. So is my tuner good for anything other than taking up space and making a lot of heat?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Catch22 on April 03, 2009, 08:45:48 pm

Wait.. I thought you were getting PPV and tennis thru your tuner before you had the cable service??

No, my HTPC has a wireless internet card. I was just streaming them online. I still don't have cable. So is my tuner good for anything other than taking up space and making a lot of heat?

Unless you're going to get basic cable (most cards I've used won't do digital or satellite) or you're planning to capture video from a video camera or some other video device on your tuner card, then yeah...it's just taking up space. 
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Battle on April 04, 2009, 06:38:07 am

This is probably a question for the GOATster, too.  I don't use AP...I know there's a free program called Gimp that has an animation plugin pack that some people use to convert video to gif. 

[url]http://www.gimp.org[/url] ([url]http://www.gimp.org[/url])



Hey thanks for the reply, Catch!

My question may appear to sound like bootlegging movies for distribution but I'm actually asking because I want to create a 2 second clip to upload to a photo content and sharing site for use inside a BBS or online forum.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Wise Son on April 06, 2009, 05:23:36 am
Thanks for the advice Catch. I think the safest thing for me is to plug it into my flatmate's Vista laptop and copy the info and then wipe the drive to get it working again. Cheers, though.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Goat on April 07, 2009, 11:12:18 am
You're doing a fine job, Catch.

Solid answers for both the TV tuner card and the dynamic drive re-format.

Couldn't have done better myself.. well I probably could have ;) but you did just fine. 
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on April 08, 2009, 08:59:30 am
So even with the new DTV regs, I have to subscribe to basic cable to get QAM thru the USB/PCI-E tuner card?  I have no roof antenna, and I'm not sure where a rabbit ears is going on a flat screen TV...
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Catch22 on April 08, 2009, 10:12:11 am
So even with the new DTV regs, I have to subscribe to basic cable to get QAM thru the USB/PCI-E tuner card?  I have no roof antenna, and I'm not sure where a rabbit ears is going on a flat screen TV...

I don't know for sure.  It depends on the model of card you have.  If you have one of the latest Hauppage models, you may be able to get the DTV signal...if your card isn't DTV ready, then yes, you'll have to get basic cable.  If it's any consolation, you can connect rabbit ears to a flat screen without a problem!  :)
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on April 10, 2009, 01:37:36 pm
If it's any consolation, you can connect rabbit ears to a flat screen without a problem!  :)

Uh, yeah. This. Explain to me why I need Salvation Army rabbit ears on a $500 flatscreen HDTV to watch Survivor!!!
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Catch22 on April 10, 2009, 02:58:41 pm
If it's any consolation, you can connect rabbit ears to a flat screen without a problem!  :)

Uh, yeah. This. Explain to me why I need Salvation Army rabbit ears on a $500 flatscreen HDTV to watch Survivor!!!

That's the easiest question on the thread and you already know the answer!  ;D
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on July 16, 2009, 08:28:52 am
QUESTION!!!

My PC keeps freezing every two hours or so. Is it possible that's because it's overheating? I took out the TV tuner since it was generating unnecessary heat, but my video card gets piping hot. Either way, I need some advice about how to cool it down - keeping in mind that HTPCs aren't exactly known for being big.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Catch22 on July 16, 2009, 12:08:41 pm
It sounds like a heating problem, but the same thing could occur if your CPU is overtaxed or there's a problem with the power supply or if the power supply is not powerful enough to support the devices in the system.  Are there any processes that are taking up a lot of CPU time when it happens?  Even though, I know you know the difference between the two, I'd be remiss if I didn't ask whether or not you checked the sleep/hibernation setting on the box.

If it's a heat problem then the simplest thing to do is to make sure the area your PC resides in is in a well ventilated place.  Make sure there's enough room under the chassis to encourage air flow.  The next thing you can do is see about adding a cooling fan or a wider heat sink assembly to the PC, usually another fan or two can do the trick.  If you want high-end cool, you can look into getting a water cooling solution.  There's a great article on them here.  (http://computer.howstuffworks.com/liquid-cooled-pc.htm)
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Goat on July 17, 2009, 04:34:29 am
Overheating..  could be several problems or one problem. Work through them.

The freezing is because the video card is overheating.. why its overheating however could be from several problems or just one it all depends..

First as was suggested it could very well be too small a power supply.. You could download Speed fan http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php and if your hard dirve is S.M.A.R.T. which most new ones are then you would be able to monitor a number of temperature sensors and see where the heat is coming from. However if your PS is not putting out enough voltage or amperage then that’s a good indication of what is going wrong. From what you have posted on your system I’d say 650 watts is a min. for your system.

Secondly overheating.. from too little ram. Not enough ram will result in your processor working too hard thereby producing heat exponentially more than usual. If its Vista then 4gb is a min for serious PC’s. XP should have at least two but more than 4 is unnecessary since XP doesn’t recognize ram over 4gb’s well. 

Third your Vid card’s fan may be failing or its heat sink may have become unattached or it may be simply failing. You could try it in another PC and check it or else you could try a less expensive card (which will draw less amperage) and see if the problem remains. Also if it’s a 8500 or higher make SURE you have the latest drivers installed.

Fourth cooling fans and ventilation.. fans draw lots of voltage though so it’s a trade off.. Adding fans will help but it puts you back to the first suggestion. Can your power supply handle more devices.

So there ya go..
1)   Power supply inadequate
2)   Not enough Ram
3)   Video card failure
4)   Not enough cooling…

It’s one or more of these issues. You just need to find which one it is.

As a note still another reason this may be happening is due to over clocking.. if you over clocked your processor then you need to bring it back down.. instead of over clocking try increasing your ram voltage. Your Motherboards bios may need updating and check your multiplier in your Motherboards bios and make sure you haven’t set it too high.  I’m not a big fan of over clocking since its really unnecessary unless your are running multiple applications while playing a video intensive game and downloading massive amounts of porn at the same time then over clocking just makes your PC work a lot harder then it needs to

Lastly your motherboard may be failing.. but I’d wait to make sure its not one of the other reasons before getting to this one.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on July 20, 2009, 04:05:26 am
I'm all but certain it's a cooling issue. RAM is 4 GB, power supply is 600W. not only is the video card getting too hot, but the fan is loud as hell. I have a Z-machine GV1000 VGA Cooler coming, so hopefully that'll help. And is there any way to remove the fan from my video card and replace it with another? Mine is loud as hell.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Goat on July 20, 2009, 07:48:53 am
I'm all but certain it's a cooling issue. RAM is 4 GB, power supply is 600W. not only is the video card getting too hot, but the fan is loud as hell. I have a Z-machine GV1000 VGA Cooler coming, so hopefully that'll help. And is there any way to remove the fan from my video card and replace it with another? Mine is loud as hell.

It shouldn't be making that much noise.. you fan blades may be bent or coming in contact with the fan blades protection enclosure.. or else the ball bearings may be faulty in which any of these cases the fan will not perform well and cause the card to overheat. You can replace the fan but you will need the correct sized replacement fan and you will need to unseat your old fan.. (many times these are glued in place which means you will need to re-glue the new one..) if you are lucky you vid card's fan is clipped in place instead.. at any rate there should be a two wire snap in connector for the fan which will disconnect it.. like I said however un-gluing it is the tricky part be careful not to damage the card.

Is you card still warranted? If so I'd get a replacement one.. on my latest PC  build I went with fanless vid cards.. which instead have a nice large heat sink these seem to be better since I too have had problems with the cheap fans they put on video cards.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on July 20, 2009, 09:07:21 am
I've heard good things about the Zalman VGA coolers..  But they may be overpriced.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Goat on July 20, 2009, 11:08:15 am
Yeah if you're going to spend the bucks for a good vid cooler then I'd forget the cards fan altogether.. just unplug its connector and turn it off.. or even better if you can find a heat sink that fits (an older PC's processor heat sink you have laying around is a good place to look) or you can even get custom heat sinks from places like here http://www.alphanovatech.com/cat_cst.html not sure on the price though..  then glue in a heat sink in place of the fan.. at any rate the vid cards fan again should not be making all that racket so something isn't right with it..
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on July 20, 2009, 08:55:44 pm
I believe Zalman is Korean for "how much disposable income do you HAVE, anyway?" My case is an HD135. I didn't pay full price for it, but I would have. I love it that much. I can't figure out how the hell to get my media reader to read my SIM card, but I love it anyway. :)

Got the cooler installed. It's quiet enough, but for the cost of this thing, if I can honestly keep my video card cool w/a fanless cooler, I'd like to go that router. I'm looking at this one (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186017) - not because of the price, but because the reviews are very, very solid. But how cool will it really be? Cool enough to overclock? I haven't even started w/that yet, and I've been talking about it since last September. Is it really okay to turn the fan off on this GV1000?

BTW, thoughts on taking out the 3.5" hard drives and replacing them w/laptop drives?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Goat on July 25, 2009, 11:31:54 am
thoughts on taking out the 3.5" hard drives and replacing them w/laptop drives?

why? laptop drives usually have lessor rpm speeds, cost more for the memory size.. and fail more often.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on July 26, 2009, 07:44:03 am
I was thinking in terms of generating heat, but you make good points, especially since all my drives are 7200 RPM and two of them are 1 TB. Never thought I'd see the day where my drives are 1 TB, but they're becoming quite cheap.

My PC hasn't frozen ONCE since I got that Zalman card, so I'm muy happy. Watched movies all last night and I didn't hear it. It comes w/a fan controller, so I just turn it up when I play games and turn it back down when it's time to watch movies. Now all I have to do is figure out how to keep my processor icy cold, then I can start overclocking at long last. Whoo-hoo!
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on July 28, 2009, 03:47:19 pm
2TB HDD capacity?  What the hell are you downloading????  The entire fall lineup?!?   

And in a HTPC case to boot???  I'd describe you as whatever comes after "fearless" but I can't think of the word.   :D
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on August 06, 2009, 01:47:07 pm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889234003
Thoughts? Since it's a monitor and not a TV, how would I be able to watch TV on this thing? My DVD/VCR combo is a JVC DR-MV79B, and I've yet to figure out how to do jack sh*t w/it. (Ironically, it worked beautifully on the day of MJ's memorial.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Catch22 on August 06, 2009, 06:12:01 pm
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889234003[/url]
Thoughts? Since it's a monitor and not a TV, how would I be able to watch TV on this thing? My DVD/VCR combo is a JVC DR-MV79B, and I've yet to figure out how to do jack sh*t w/it. (Ironically, it worked beautifully on the day of MJ's memorial.


According to the 5th picture from the left, it has s-video and an AV input.  You can just hook up your satellite/cable/dvd/tivo etc. to that.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on August 06, 2009, 06:31:09 pm
I'm probably the only person alive who doesn't have cable or a satellite. My old HDTV had a TV tuner in it. This one doesn't, and I can't figure out how to make it work. I can plug my 32" Spectre into my DVD/VCR combo (also HD), but I still don't get anything. I assume I would plug the HDMI cord from the Westinghouse into the DVD/VCR combo...but then what?

Aside from that, is it a good buy? This is one of the few things I'm willing to splurge on. On one hand, it's a monitor, not a TV; on the other hand, it's a 47" monitor for $700. worst case scenario, I can use it for my HTPC and for gaming. But I'd rather have it in the front room.

Oh, and how come I have a Hauppage card inside my HTPC and I STILL can't get any kind of reception? And how come I can have an LCD TV and I can't get any freaking stations, not even local ones!?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on August 07, 2009, 11:40:26 am
What kind of antenna are you running to your tuner card?  even those cheap, bundled rabbit ears should get you 1 or 2 local stations.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on August 07, 2009, 01:43:39 pm
An antenna with an HTPC? God, what an awful picture that's going to make. An LCD TV w/rabbit ears. :(
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Catch22 on August 07, 2009, 01:53:46 pm
Didn't the analog signal get turned off in June?  You'll have to get a DTV converter box to get an over the air signal now.  You can get a $40 gift card towards the purchase of one at www.dtv2009.org and Target usually has them onsale for $40 so you'd only have to pay tax on it.  That box should plug into those same inputs without a problem and it'll look like you have a cable/satellite box instead of the unsightly rabbit ears.  ;D
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Vic Vega on August 07, 2009, 02:12:29 pm
An antenna with an HTPC? God, what an awful picture that's going to make. An LCD TV w/rabbit ears. :(


Then use this:

http://www.amazon.com/ANT1500-Multi-Directional-Digital-Passive-Antenna/dp/B00196757K (http://www.amazon.com/ANT1500-Multi-Directional-Digital-Passive-Antenna/dp/B00196757K)

I can't personally vouch for the effectiveness of it. These things usefulness literally varys from house to house.

And even then unless your tuner card gets over the air DTV(and unless I miss my guess it can't) it won't work.

So you'd need a DTV box and one of the passive antennas (which are pretty unobtrusive if you have white walls).
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on August 07, 2009, 03:08:12 pm
Didn't the analog signal get turned off in June?  You'll have to get a DTV converter box to get an over the air signal now.  You can get a $40 gift card towards the purchase of one at www.dtv2009.org and Target usually has them onsale for $40 so you'd only have to pay tax on it.  That box should plug into those same inputs without a problem and it'll look like you have a cable/satellite box instead of the unsightly rabbit ears.  ;D

That's what I got. The signal works quite well, but the interface is UUUUUUGLY!!! I'll take pics when I have time. I've also seen a couple of nice looking antennas and even an antenna picture frame. I think I'll keep the gub'mint one in my bedroom and get a nice-looking one for the front room.

Took the plunge and got the Westinghouse. As my friend said, "Isn't this the kind of thing that credit cards are made for?" She's right. So why do I feel so nauseated? I think I'm gonna cry. But $700 shipped for a 47" LCD monitor (TV?) really can't be beat. I thought I would regret buying my 32" inch in my bedroom - and all I regret is that I didn't get a 37". I can't mount the 47" in this apartment, but if things go the way I'm hoping they go w/in the next few months, I'll have my own place to hang it over the fireplace (which is why I got such a big one to begin with).

I wonder if I'll move my HTPC to the front room. I kind of don't want to. I like gaming in my comfy bed, and my sofa - more like a loveseat - isn't worth a damn. On the other hand, no way am I putting a 47" in my bedroom. I don't even watch enough TV to justify *this* purchase. But I can't keep moving my 32" from my bedroom to the living room every morning for working out.

BTW - LCD or plasma?

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And even then unless your tuner card gets over the air DTV(and unless I miss my guess it can't) it won't work.

I have no idea what it does, but it's a WinTV-HVR-1600. But what is the purpose of the tuner if I still need an antenna?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on August 07, 2009, 09:29:28 pm

No box necessary, according to your card's specs.

That tuner card is ATSC/QAM ready.  You don't have any cable line already running into the walls (prior tenant perhaps?) if not, then an antenna is the only way you'll pull a signal, unless you live across the street from a broadcast tower.

Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on August 13, 2009, 02:15:53 pm
(http://i29.tinypic.com/nfqwk3.jpg)
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Battle on August 14, 2009, 08:34:56 am
>>>Jenn

So, what's on the bookshelf in that pic?  Looks like a few MARVEL trade paper backs...
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on August 14, 2009, 10:20:35 am
That's most of Hudlin's BP run.

Question: anybody here ever build a media server? I know certain Windows suites allow for "sharing" media from computer to computer, but I'm wondering if this would be the better idea, especially since my HTPC currently holds four hard drives. And now that I think about it, I may take a lot of the components of my HTPC and build a gaming rig, and build a true HTPC w/a mini-ATX case. Sometimes I feel like I have a gaming rig in an HTPC case, and I've never been able to do a lot of the stuff I wanted because of fear of overheating.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on August 15, 2009, 06:21:09 pm
You DO have a gaming rig trapped in that HTPC... I don't know how you're running the components you're running without lighting a fire to some of those trades..  Get a 40.00 case and PS, break out one of those Hard Drives, get a 10.00 DVD RW, and put that vid card in a respectable rig...  You know you don't need that discrete card for HD playback  ;D

Find somebody with Windows Home Server or try the demo that's floating around.. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the results..   

..If only they'd hacked the WII to run HD media over a network...sigh*
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Catch22 on August 15, 2009, 08:23:18 pm
You DO have a gaming rig trapped in that HTPC... I don't know how you're running the components you're running without lighting a fire to some of those trades..  Get a 40.00 case and PS, break out one of those Hard Drives, get a 10.00 DVD RW, and put that vid card in a respectable rig...  You know you don't need that discrete card for HD playback  ;D

Find somebody with Windows Home Server or try the demo that's floating around.. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the results..   

..If only they'd hacked the WII to run HD media over a network...sigh*


You can use TVersity to run media over a network to the WII, XBox 360, Iphone, PS3, etc.  That's what I use at home.  I have TVersity on one of my PCs and stream the video through my 360 to the TV.  It's so smooth, you think you're watching a DVD.  It'll also stream Youtube and Hulu.  Best of all...it's FREE! Check it out at www.tversity.com.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on August 15, 2009, 09:35:21 pm
Ahhhhh, sh*t, y'all. CJ may have given me the keys to the pearly gates. I'll be checking that out tomorrow for sure.

*edit* Wait...scratch that. My HTPC is currently getting no signal and no beeps. PLEASE, God, don't let it be my motherboard.
*edit II* Yup, it's the mobo. But my processor is good and that's all that matters to me. E8400s aren't top of the line, but they're damn good processors and very hard to find. So now I just have my lappy and I'm going a little nuts.

Okay, here's what I'm fiddling with so far:

- Copped a Netgear SC101T for $50. It can hold two 3.5 SATA drives. I'm thinking both of my 1 TBs can go in there. That takes two hard drives out of the Zalman. Unfortunately, it does not support 64-bit OSs (and it has terrible reviews), so it goes back to Fry's. But assuming that it did, wouldn't this be the quickest, easiest way to build a media server?

- Could take the GT 9800 out of the Zalman and replace it with my old GeForce 7350. It's DVI compatible (noisy ass fan, though) and probably won't run nearly as hot.

- I want to find a PSU w/removable cables.

- Pop the TV tuner back in...still don't know what it's for, but I'm sure it's supposed to be in there for some reason.

From there, I could start working on how to make this a fanless HTPC. I've never owned two TVs, but I find I do most of my PC gaming in my bedroom, and most of my console gaming in my living room. Now that I have two LCD screens, I no longer have a reason to have a gaming rig doubling as an HTPC. But there's no way I'll have a crappy looking $40 box in my bedroom. It'll have to either look as good as my Zalman (which will probably stay in the front room), or be an inconspicuous looking box, like this cute little SC101T. When your bed set looks like this...

(http://i25.tinypic.com/furh3s.jpg)

...you don't stick a gaming rig with flashing LED lights in your room.

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..If only they'd hacked the WII to run HD media over a network...sigh*


God, no kidding. I'll be a Nintendo fangirl until I die, but can we get ONE Nintendo system that plays DVDs at the very freaking least?

BTW, which one of you is buying me a diNovo mini for Christmas? Then again, if I can manage to turn my Touch Pro into a wireless remote, I won't have to bother.

*edit* What the sh*t is this (http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=331&Itemid=61)?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on August 26, 2009, 06:37:01 pm
GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

Okay, folks. Thinking my mobo went bad, I went and got a new one: a Gigabyte EP45-UD3P. I also bought a Raidmax RX-630W power supply - not exactly something to be proud of, but it's only $50 w/rebate (if I ever get it!) and comes with removable power cords THANK YOU OH SWEET HOLY JESUS!!!! Well, the same thing is happening that happened w/my Bloodiron: it comes on the first time, freezes about 10 minutes later, then starts a come-on-and-reboot cycle. If the power supply is new and the motherboard is new, does that suggest the processor is the problem? *sighs and goes to pull everything out of the case to make sure it's not a short*

BTW, for processors: 2.5 GHz Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 or 3.0 GHz Intel Core Duo E8400? Is there even much of a difference? I went w/the Wolfsdale because I hear it's easy to OC to 4.0, but I never even got around to it.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on August 27, 2009, 07:22:56 am
My first thought was a short too... did you check all of the MB fasteners?  Maybe one is cross threaded into the case? 

If no, then you might have to just play the trial-and-error game.. starting with just one peripheral at a time, until the problem repeats itself?

As for procs, it seems that 99% of us never really use the full processing power of the quad cores anyway, so practically probably no difference - I'd say go with whatever one your wallet is more comfortable with. 
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on August 28, 2009, 08:37:31 am
The good news is that my old HP (w/the three year warranty) is still under warranty. So I called them and asked them for a new Wolfsdale, and they said "Sure, want a motherboard, too?" And I'm like, "...yeah, why not?" So we'll see if it's the processor or not once I get it. If it's not, then hey - I got two working processors. If so, fine. Since the mobo is a miniATX, I may use it to build a media server. We'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on August 29, 2009, 01:06:50 pm
Hmmm. I'm starting to think it's the RAM. When I move the RAM into different slots, everything works w/no problems, at least for an hour or two. I was even able to get Windows 7 installed on my HTPC without a hitch. After an hour or so, it freezes, then does that whole whine/die loop. When I take the RAM out and put it back in, it works just fine. Obviously, I can't keep doing this, however. But if I was able to get Windows & installed, is it safe to rule out the processor at the very least? HP sent me a mobo but no processor, and insists that they DID send me a processor, I've love to leave them the f*ck alone. I can always buy new RAM if OZ doesn't honor the warranty.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Goat on August 30, 2009, 11:34:45 am
You may be losing the contact point on one of your ram sticks.. try taking the ram out and using an eraser head to clean the strip of contacts on the ram stick.. just rub it back and forth.. errr hold on wait a sec.. (err sorry I lost my train of thought.. ) yeah ok just rub the stick.. errr.. oh hell! LOL. :)
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on August 30, 2009, 12:23:34 pm
You naaaaaaasty!  :P But I suspect you're right. I haven't had any problems whatsoever, which makes this past week even more bizarre. However, the very same peripherals in my Gigabyte turn out much better numbers than in my Bloodiron. Go figure. I'll probably throw the BI back in there and use the Gigabyte to build a gaming rig; for now, I'm pretty damn proud of myself. Broke as the Ten Commandments, but proud nonetheless.

Windows 7 is actually pretty damn good. Bloated as hell, but here's something interesting: neither my laptop nor my HTPC run nearly as hot as they used to. Remember, there was a time when my tuner was running so hot that I could barely touch it, and I had to buy a laptop stand to cool my laptop because the ventilation in the back was so poor.

Speaking of my tuner, I finally got it configured to the Media Center. Turns out that I don't need that godawful cable box after all - just an antenna. I bought a flat one from Walmart for $30 and used double sided tape (the tool of the gods) to attach it to the back of the monitor (since it's actually not a TV at all). So after hundreds of dollars building an HTPC, I have a 47" TV that has a fairly decent picture. Let's face it - your picture is only going to look so good over air. It just pisses me off. What I want to know is how to jack some of those free cable channels. If I get a better tuner than what I have (HVR-1600), is it possible I could get a better picture, at the very least?

Took the 8800 out of the HTPC and put the 7350 back in, since I won't be using it as a rig anyway. Now my hard drive is the loudest thing I hear, and it's driving me CRAZY. There's only one in there, and I thought I'd muffled it w/enough Styrofoam and whatnot.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on September 06, 2009, 03:11:25 pm
WHOO-HOO!!!! Got this off eBay for cheap, and it's coming w/a wireless Microsoft remote & DVD burner:

(http://www.casedesigns.net/wp-content/origen-ae-x11-3.jpg)

Nice enough for the bedroom, though not nearly as nice as my Zalman, which is fine by me. Plus it has a media reader. Even Zalman (with their ridiculously high price tag) didn't throw that in.

I'm finding quite a few compatibility problems w/Windows 7 x64. One BIIIIG one is that it won't sync with iPod; another is that there are no drivers for my wireless card. The front room is running an ethernet cable, but if I can't get this wireless card to work, my bedroom HTPC will have to be running Vista.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Wise Son on September 11, 2009, 01:45:42 pm
This seems a good place to ask: my mic simply doesn't work in the PC. Someone suggested it's a driver problem, but I don't even know how to go about confirming and / or fixing this. Any suggestions?

I reiterate - NO IDEA HOW TO DO THIS AT PRESENT.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Goat on September 14, 2009, 08:32:49 am
This seems a good place to ask: my mic simply doesn't work in the PC. Someone suggested it's a driver problem, but I don't even know how to go about confirming and / or fixing this. Any suggestions?

I reiterate - NO IDEA HOW TO DO THIS AT PRESENT.

Okay well a couple of quick things to check..

First go into control panel/sound and Audio devices/Voice and make sure the Voice recording device is listing your primary sound card as the device. Next open up AllPrograms/Accessories/Entertainment/VolumeControl click on advanced settings and then change from playback to recording and make sure your mic input is active and not muted and the volume level is up.
Use sound recorder under AllPrograms/Accessories/Entertainment/SoundRecorder to check the mic is working now. You can use Sound Recorder’s Edit/AudioProperties to quickly switch back to the voice recording device and check things like volume, when you click on Volume for the voice recording device make sure your mic input is selected as primary and the volume is up enough. Default is line in so you want to switch to mic unless you have it plugged into the line in input.

Let me know after you check these and then we can go from there.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on November 05, 2009, 06:02:52 am
For those of you w/HTPCs, what are you using for keyboards/mice?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on November 05, 2009, 06:14:13 am
For those of you w/HTPCs, what are you using for keyboards/mice?


MS wireless 3000 combo... uncluttered and unobtrusive, and the usb reciever stores away under the mouse when not in use. Rechargeables last about 3 months w. everyday use.

Last I checked, was 40.00 at Best Buy.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on November 05, 2009, 07:22:13 am
Mine's a 1044 (ZV1-00004) . It has its pros and cons - the first pro being that it was free. I like it well enough, but it should've come w/a track ball like yours - the pointer is fine, but I fear it's going to break any second. The worst thing is that stupid IR receiver (which doesn't even come w/the keyboard! uses a WIRED plugin USB port, instead of a USB dongle. I've seen wireless IR receivers, but I don't know if it will work w/this computer. I *will* say that for those of us using Windows Media Center, it's a damn good layout. Since the front room PC is more or less for TV watching, I'll probably just keep it in there.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on November 23, 2009, 06:46:35 am
Question I asked in the Blu-ray thread:

Looking at the Sony BDP-S360, I come across this review:

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This player does not support any NetFlix, Pandora, Amazon, or any other streaming video features. Also, the Player does not have an internal wifi for updates or bd live.

Is this crucial? Or does my HTPC cover all of that already?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on November 24, 2009, 04:12:42 pm
Question I asked in the Blu-ray thread:

Looking at the Sony BDP-S360, I come across this review:

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This player does not support any NetFlix, Pandora, Amazon, or any other streaming video features. Also, the Player does not have an internal wifi for updates or bd live.

Is this crucial? Or does my HTPC cover all of that already?

If you're paying anywhere near 150 - I'd suggest waiting for a killer holiday deal... The streaming Blu-Rays will be 150 by years end...  If you simply want the streaming features of Netflix, than your HTPC is more than capable with an active Netflix membership.   If you want the BD-Live and Pandora streaming.. I'd wait it out for a few weeks :D
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on November 24, 2009, 04:53:51 pm
That's what I figured. And since my cable/wifi speed is average at best, it would probably benefit me more to get one of the new Samsung Blu-Ray players at Blockbuster (going out of business down here!) for $90. I'll have to check the make/model, but the guy on the phone said it's a Samsung BD-P1500, which I'm 85% sure is wrong. The catch is that it's "all sales final", so I'm still thinking it over. Would it be better (and more cost efficient) for me to just keep holding my breath and throwing temper tantrums to (eventually) get the Blu-Ray DVD-ROM for free? (Is that the dumbest question I've ever asked?) I did happen to "purchase" (read: going back to the store) a Sony BD-S350, and I will say the difference is breathtaking.

Sad news: my whisper-quiet Praise Jesus NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 does NOT fit inside my Zalman case (too tall!), so it's back to my loud-ass GeForce 9800GT. Le sigh. But it DOES fit inside my yet-to-be-finished Origen AE X11 - which, for the record, I absolutely do NOT recommend under any given circumstances whatsoever. Beautiful case, but LOUSY customer service. And why, in 2009, am I buying a 20-to-24 pin converter? Should've gone w/a Silverstone.

BTW, and I can't believe I'm just now asking this: do HTPCs tend to *require* sound cards? I always have to export sound through my iPod dock, when I used to be able to just plug a headphone speaker into the monitor (or better yet, use a splitter so the sound would come out of both). Now I have to use an iPod dock, which is very goofy looking. What are you all using for sound/sound speakers? Last thing I want are those stupid computer speakers all around the place, but I get the impression I'm going to need some home speakers.

*edit* Since everybody tends to post pictures of the inside of their PCs, here's my Zalman, only w/the GTS 250.

(http://i45.tinypic.com/jqkqhl.jpg)

I took out all the hard drives and put in a laptop drive (it's under the DVD-ROM) in order to use as few cables as possible. I'll probably never get my $40 rebate, but I'm glad I bought a modular PSU. The pink fan is just for extra air circulation. The PSU *and* the fan both have color LEDs (arrrrrrgh!!!), but it's whisper quiet and has great airflow (for a Zalman). Windows 7 (and Vista) has home sharing, so I think I'll load all the hard drives I have into the Origen AE (I believe it can fit five) and just link up from there. That way, I have access to all my non-BR media w/o anything having to go into the Zalman.

I think I'm finally done w/it; I can't see it getting much better, barring a sound card, and possibly a heatsink for that processor if I ever start to overclock. Here are the final specs:

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P
Monitor: Westinghouse LVM-47W1
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz
Video card: GeForce 9800 GT
Case: Zalman PC HD135
RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2x2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 800 (5-5-5-15)
PSU: Raidmax Volcano 630W Modular
Tuner: WinTV-HVR-1100
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition x64
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: bluezulu on December 09, 2009, 01:31:29 pm
Ok, I have an opportunity to upgrade to windows 7, however I found out that you cannot do an upgrade from xp to 7 only a clean install. I have about 8 gigs of music on my pc, and about 4 gigs of ahem movies on my pc. My pics, im not to concerned with because they are all on my phone as well. What are my options. Do I have to go get an external hard-drive to back up all of my files and programs. I have a 200gig hard drive with about 80% of that used up with games, programs and such so partitioning windows 7 isnt an option is it. I read somewhere that you can partition music and video files separately is that true and how do you do it? Will look in tonight while in class to see if yall can send me in the right direction.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: moor on December 09, 2009, 08:15:48 pm
Do you know anybody with a copy of Vista?  You could upgrade only from xp>>>vista>>>>win7 in juuuuust about the same amount of time it'd take to backup, wipe, install, and manually reload all of the old settings...


I'd do the upgrade, skip the activation, and go right to a win7 upgrade..


This all assumes that if you are currently using 32bit versions, you will stay at 32bits... if you're thinking of switching over to 64bit Windows.. then you'll have to back it all up, no matter what.

Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: bluezulu on December 10, 2009, 09:07:37 am
I will see if I can track anyone down with vista. May just get an external drive just to have it. Not sure.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on December 10, 2009, 09:35:11 am
Get an external drive (you need one anyway) and just do a clean install.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Wise Son on January 09, 2010, 03:30:06 am
This seems a good place to ask: my mic simply doesn't work in the PC. Someone suggested it's a driver problem, but I don't even know how to go about confirming and / or fixing this. Any suggestions?

I reiterate - NO IDEA HOW TO DO THIS AT PRESENT.

Okay well a couple of quick things to check..

First go into control panel/sound and Audio devices/Voice and make sure the Voice recording device is listing your primary sound card as the device. Next open up AllPrograms/Accessories/Entertainment/VolumeControl click on advanced settings and then change from playback to recording and make sure your mic input is active and not muted and the volume level is up.
Use sound recorder under AllPrograms/Accessories/Entertainment/SoundRecorder to check the mic is working now. You can use Sound Recorder’s Edit/AudioProperties to quickly switch back to the voice recording device and check things like volume, when you click on Volume for the voice recording device make sure your mic input is selected as primary and the volume is up enough. Default is line in so you want to switch to mic unless you have it plugged into the line in input.

Let me know after you check these and then we can go from there.

Wow. You know I haven't been up in the HEF as much as I would have liked recently, so I only just got to this bit of advice, and it worked first time. Truly, you are the GOAT!
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Redjack on January 09, 2010, 09:10:10 pm
I've always had mac's since 1993. 

And I don't like cappacino, I prefer chai late's with soy milk, chilled.  If you have to ask...  :P

qft, baby.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Jenn on March 13, 2010, 01:19:38 pm
My turn!

How do you import digital movies into Adobe Premiere and convert them into .gifs

...the easy way?

If you'd like to do this the fast way, use a program that captures what's on your screen. That way, you don't have to import anything. I use Tunebite 7, capture the little part that I need, and then convert w/Animation Shop 3.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Battle on October 20, 2010, 07:06:51 am
Listen up, HEF!
A really good resource site for your PC troubles...   not including MAC users. :-\

http://www.howtogeek.com/
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on October 06, 2013, 08:59:44 pm
Okay, so it's finally, FINALLY time to upgrade my sh*t. I didn't realize just how old my build was. I'd overclocked my E8400 to 4.1 GHZ ages ago. But that damn Skyrim...I can't believe that I'm spending so much money for one effing game. It'll play okay, but the graphics are absolutely awful, to the point of distraction. Even upgrading the video card didn't help. None of my other games play poorly at all.

I'm kind of bitter about this, because now I'm at the point where I had to replace my motherboard AND RAM AND processor all at once. I know I made some great buys off Amazon, but boy, did it hurt like hell. So by the end of the week, I'll have these upgrades for my gaming rig (bold text denotes upgrade):

Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK Intel Z77
Processor: Intel Core i5-650 Processor 3.20 GHz
Memory: Corsair XMS3 4 GB 1333MHz PC3-10666 240-pin DDR3 (x2)
Graphics card: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 650 Ti OC 1GB
Tuner: WinTV-HVR-1250 HDTV
OS: Windows 8 x64

Monitor: Westinghouse LVM-47W1
Case: OriginAE X11 (I swapped this w/my Zalman 135 ,which is turning into an HTPC)
PSU: Raidmax Volcano 630W Modular

Will have pics when I get it all together.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Marvelous on October 08, 2013, 03:35:25 pm
Okay, so it's finally, FINALLY time to upgrade my sh*t. I didn't realize just how old my build was. I'd overclocked my E8400 to 4.1 GHZ ages ago. But that damn Skyrim...I can't believe that I'm spending so much money for one effing game. It'll play okay, but the graphics are absolutely awful, to the point of distraction. Even upgrading the video card didn't help. None of my other games play poorly at all.

I'm kind of bitter about this, because now I'm at the point where I had to replace my motherboard AND RAM AND processor all at once. I know I made some great buys off Amazon, but boy, did it hurt like hell. So by the end of the week, I'll have these upgrades for my gaming rig (bold text denotes upgrade):

Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK Intel Z77
Processor: Intel Core i5-650 Processor 3.20 GHz
Memory: Corsair XMS3 4 GB 1333MHz PC3-10666 240-pin DDR3 (x2)
Graphics card: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 650 Ti OC 1GB
Tuner: WinTV-HVR-1250 HDTV
OS: Windows 8 x64

Monitor: Westinghouse LVM-47W1
Case: OriginAE X11 (I swapped this w/my Zalman 135 ,which is turning into an HTPC)
PSU: Raidmax Volcano 630W Modular

Will have pics when I get it all together.

Come om Maxine, you need to build you a BEAST!
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on October 08, 2013, 08:28:31 pm
Come om Maxine, you need to build you a BEAST!

You got some beast money?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Marvelous on October 09, 2013, 11:16:31 pm
Come om Maxine, you need to build you a BEAST!

You got some beast money?

Change that i5 to a 8core AMD and that will give the extra cash to upgrade to a 660ti 2g, asus sabertooth mobo, and 16 gigs of ram.   ;D
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on October 10, 2013, 02:55:43 am
Nice recs, Marv. If I ever start over from scratch, I'll keep you in mind. But I was seriously having to ball on a budget here. $105 for the mobo. $85 for the processor. $60 for the RAM. I'm straight for now.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on October 10, 2013, 07:55:55 am
(Inserts virus and quickly runs out of thread...) ;)


http://youtu.be/DZSBWbnmGrE (http://youtu.be/DZSBWbnmGrE)
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Marvelous on October 10, 2013, 11:08:23 am
Nice recs, Marv. If I ever start over from scratch, I'll keep you in mind. But I was seriously having to ball on a budget here. $105 for the mobo. $85 for the processor. $60 for the RAM. I'm straight for now.

All good! That's still a very nice rig.  Will play and do anything on the market right now and mostly on the ultra settings.

And Flex, we always use protection and are immune to your viruses.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on October 10, 2013, 12:07:53 pm
All good! That's still a very nice rig.  Will play and do anything on the market right now and mostly on the ultra settings.

I cannot WAIT to see Skyrim played on Ultra for the very first time. High Res pack and everything. I already have the board and the RAM; processor should be here today. High Res pack and everything. I might even start a new game just to experience it all from the very beginning. If I didn't have to go out of town on Saturday, I'd take tomorrow off and nobody would see me until Monday.

*edit* Okay...I'm losing my mind. My processor won't go in this motherboard. It's an 1156 socket and the specs on the mobo are 1155. So. Much. f*cking. Fail. Talk about a rookie mistake.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on October 10, 2013, 12:44:32 pm
I heard you sneeze Marvelous so naturally I assumed the worst! ;D


Are you familiar with the Boxx line of computers?


http://www.boxxtech.com (http://www.boxxtech.com)


I was pressed for time at Siggraph one year so I never got to test one out... I bought an iMac last year with 2 TB of storage and 16 GB of memory and will soon upgrade to something more diabolically fiendish later as I build up my digital effects studio workstation!


I need a good reason not to get the new Mac Pro that is designed in black to look sexy as whatever so if you can break down the 411 of buying or building a PC from scratch I'm all ears!


http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ (http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/)


Clearly the ability to swap out graphics cards according to the task at hand is enticing but if it's a homemade PC does this mean I will be like one of those Harley Davidson bikers that spends more time fixing it than actually riding it!
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on October 10, 2013, 02:15:10 pm
Ho-kay. So the processor is going back. Apparently the 1156 socket was hot for all of about 20 minutes, and the mobo is a pretty good one, I think, at least for now. Definitely don't want an i3 b/c they can't be overclocked. *sigh* Marv, I think I'm going to take your advice and scrap an Intel setup entirely.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Marvelous on October 25, 2013, 09:20:37 pm
*sigh* Marv, I think I'm going to take your advice and scrap an Intel setup entirely.

Everyone has their ol reliable.  About 6 years ago, I went AMD and didn't look back.  Performance, power and you just can't beat the price.  i5 will run you about 180 to 250. While a FX Series 8-Core AMD will run you about 139 to 300. 

My roommate is running an intensely modded Skyrim and Farcry 3 on Ultra with jaw dropping smoothness.

Whether you go Intel or AMD, shop around and get what's trusted.  I took the leap and loved every minute of my gaming.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on November 25, 2013, 07:50:48 pm
Allllllright. After temporarily losing my mind with an Intel build that I would've had to sell my firstborn for, I remembered that - praise white Jesus - I live near a Micro Center. ("Near" being "over 1/2 an hour away".) So now we've changed to...

Motherboard: AMD FX 8320 Black Edition 3.5GHz AM3+ = $108
Processor: ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 Socket AM3+ 990FX = supposedly $97 after rebate. I'm not holding out hope.
Memory: Corsair XMS3 4 GB 1333MHz PC3-10666 240-pin DDR3
Graphics card: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 650 Ti OC 1GB
Tuner: WinTV-HVR-1250 HDTV
OS: Windows 8 x64

I'm going to call it Marv. <3
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Marvelous on November 26, 2013, 05:59:42 pm
Allllllright. After temporarily losing my mind with an Intel build that I would've had to sell my firstborn for, I remembered that - praise white Jesus - I live near a Micro Center. ("Near" being "over 1/2 an hour away".) So now we've changed to...

Motherboard: AMD FX 8320 Black Edition 3.5GHz AM3+ = $108
Processor: ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 Socket AM3+ 990FX = supposedly $97 after rebate. I'm not holding out hope.
Memory: Corsair XMS3 4 GB 1333MHz PC3-10666 240-pin DDR3
Graphics card: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 650 Ti OC 1GB
Tuner: WinTV-HVR-1250 HDTV
OS: Windows 8 x64

I'm going to call it Marv. <3

Let me know what you think of Windows 8, have not gone that route...yet.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Hypestyle on November 28, 2013, 10:57:59 am
as a self-gift, I'm considering a laptop.. and I've never owned one.  :-\

what should I look for?  mac? PC?
I'd need something with enough memory to host lots of audio/video files, and cool recording/editing software..
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Battle on November 28, 2013, 11:23:45 am
as a self-gift, I'm considering a laptop.. and I've never owned one.  :-\

what should I look for?  mac? PC?
I'd need something with enough memory to host lots of audio/video files, and cool recording/editing software..






I'd recommend a PC laptop.

Dell.

It's trouble-free and fun to use, Hype.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on November 29, 2013, 09:59:38 am
I'm an agnostic in the Mac vs. PC divide; I have both. Here's the main differences as I see it:

Mac
+ simple, seamless user experience
+ generally less security problems
- you pay a premium for equivalent computing power

PC
+ wider variety of sizes, configurations, price points
+ more configurable (at least I think so)
+ generally wider selection of software, free and otherwise
- you have to be your own system administrator especially for security and updates; even though I know how, it can get a little tedious.

My current laptop is a MacBook Pro. It did cost a little more; on the other hand, it just works. I might go for one of those solid state storage ones next time around.

I just got my son one of those Acer Aspire laptops with a touch screen and he's really happy with it.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Marvelous on December 13, 2014, 05:50:26 pm
BeastMode!

Trip Video cards, dayum.

https://games.yahoo.com/news/alienware-area-51-review-160000268.html
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Battle on December 14, 2014, 04:22:59 am
BeastMode!

Trip Video cards, dayum.

https://games.yahoo.com/news/alienware-area-51-review-160000268.html




It's a dream come true.
My only discrepancy is the video card slot tailor made for NVidia products.  Whassup with ATI Radeon chipsets, yo?  ???
They're not on the hardware contract???
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Marvelous on December 14, 2014, 08:47:28 pm
BeastMode!

Trip Video cards, dayum.

https://games.yahoo.com/news/alienware-area-51-review-160000268.html

Come to the Dark Side.




It's a dream come true.
My only discrepancy is the video card slot tailor made for NVidia products.  Whassup with ATI Radeon chipsets, yo?  ???
They're not on the hardware contract???
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Battle on December 15, 2014, 12:50:43 pm


Come to the Dark Side.





Nawww...   Y'all need to get with the AMDeez!
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Marvelous on December 15, 2014, 03:56:24 pm


Come to the Dark Side.







Nawww...   Y'all need to get with the AMDeez!

I'm all about the AMDeeez.  Just not my video card.  Did Radeon Support get better?
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Battle on December 15, 2014, 05:02:08 pm
I'm all about the AMDeeez.  Just not my video card.  Did Radeon Support get better?




I don't have any complaints.

AMD video cards with the ATI chipsets contain much beefier horsepower than NVidia cards.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on March 06, 2015, 10:57:03 am
Just ordered a 960 GTX, so I'm stoked! So now the updated setup is as follows:

Motherboard: AMD FX 8320 Black Edition 3.5GHz (OCed to 4.2 GHz)
Processor: ASUS M5A99FX PRO
Memory: Corsair XMS3 4 GB (x2)
EVGA GeForce GTX 960 Super Clocked 2GB
Tuner: WinTV-HVR-1250 HDTV
OS: Windows 8 x64

And my main hard drive is a Kingston SSD. If y'all haven't had the SSD experience in your life, boy...you're missing out!
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Battle on March 06, 2015, 12:17:04 pm

Tuner: WinTV-HVR-1250 HDTV





Ain't really hot unless your monitor has touch-screen capability!  ;)
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Marvelous on March 06, 2015, 04:14:19 pm
Just ordered a 960 GTX, so I'm stoked! So now the updated setup is as follows:

Motherboard: AMD FX 8320 Black Edition 3.5GHz (OCed to 4.2 GHz)
Processor: ASUS M5A99FX PRO
Memory: Corsair XMS3 4 GB (x2)
EVGA GeForce GTX 960 Super Clocked 2GB
Tuner: WinTV-HVR-1250 HDTV
OS: Windows 8 x64

And my main hard drive is a Kingston SSD. If y'all haven't had the SSD experience in your life, boy...you're missing out!

Damn girl!  You got me with that rig.  Almost the same I built.  You video card is a BEAST.  At the time I got the 660Ti from Nvidea.  And I will never use the 16 gigs of ram on my motherboard.  Was gonna go 32 gigs for the SaG.

Very nice indeed!  Gonna have to tweek mine now...again!
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on March 07, 2015, 10:26:59 am
960 GTX is here...average FPS is 130.8 and max FPS/sec is 257.3. I'ma about to turn ALL of my game settings up to "Ultra High as All f*ck." Well worth the $200 upgrade.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Battle on March 08, 2015, 04:48:05 am
960 GTX is here...average FPS is 130.8 and max FPS/sec is 257.3. I'ma about to turn ALL of my game settings up to "Ultra High as All f*ck." Well worth the $200 upgrade.




If you really want a hot-rod PC, you need to throw out that stock keyboard & mouse.
Get with the mechanical gaming keyboards with illuminated keys,with additional customizable functionality like the one I own from Steelseries APEX[Raw]
(http://site.steelseriescdn.com/wp-content/themes/steelseries/images/products/small/steelseries-apex-raw-gaming-keyboard_nc.png)

This baby can run in the dark. The keys are fairly wide & toggle very quickly and don't get stuck. Most of the additional keys can be re-mapped.

Are you still using that mouse that presses on your horizontal surfaces like a hot iron?  Developing Carpal Tunnel Syndrome?
If so, You need to get with the wireless, trackball styled series like the M570, Logitech  puts out there:
(http://www.logitech.com/assets/32954/3/logitech-wireless-trackball-m570.png)


Now you're styling & profiling, yo!  :)
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Marvelous on March 08, 2015, 08:33:22 pm
960 GTX is here...average FPS is 130.8 and max FPS/sec is 257.3. I'ma about to turn ALL of my game settings up to "Ultra High as All f*ck." Well worth the $200 upgrade.




If you really want a hot-rod PC, you need to throw out that stock keyboard & mouse.
Get with the mechanical gaming keyboards with illuminated keys,with additional customizable functionality like the one I own from Steelseries APEX[Raw]
([url]http://site.steelseriescdn.com/wp-content/themes/steelseries/images/products/small/steelseries-apex-raw-gaming-keyboard_nc.png[/url])

This baby can run in the dark. The keys are fairly wide & toggle very quickly and don't get stuck. Most of the additional keys can be re-mapped.

Are you still using that mouse that presses on your horizontal surfaces like a hot iron?  Developing Carpal Tunnel Syndrome?
If so, You need to get with the wireless, trackball styled series like the M570, Logitech  puts out there:
([url]http://www.logitech.com/assets/32954/3/logitech-wireless-trackball-m570.png[/url])


Now you're styling & profiling, yo!  :)


Oh hell nah, Battle.  Not the mouse ball!  ;D
I tried it, couldn't do it.  Now if I was playing Missle Command, then maybe.  ;)
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Battle on March 09, 2015, 03:45:08 am
Oh hell nah, Battle.  Not the mouse ball!  ;D
I tried it, couldn't do it.  Now if I was playing Missle Command, then maybe.  ;)





You've tried the trackball-styled mouse with no success?  ???
I find that hard to believe.  :-\

Marv, I haven't used a industry standard mouse in over a year and didn't look back... ever again. Always felt that the standard mouse was ergonomically not a good idea for PC gaming or even for administrative tasks.

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w184/Battle-D/HEFff7_03_zps22ca62c6.gif)(http://www.logitech.com/assets/32954/3/logitech-wireless-trackball-m570.png)

When you start losing motor control in your wrists & tendons in your pointer finger...
--- you'll come 'round to the trackball mouse for relief!
Watch, you'll see!  8)
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on March 10, 2015, 08:41:52 am
If you really want a hot-rod PC, you need to throw out that stock keyboard & mouse.
Get with the mechanical gaming keyboards with illuminated keys,with additional customizable functionality like the one I own from Steelseries APEX[Raw]
([url]http://site.steelseriescdn.com/wp-content/themes/steelseries/images/products/small/steelseries-apex-raw-gaming-keyboard_nc.png[/url])


Da FUQ? It's all about the 360 controller up in this bitch!
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Battle on March 10, 2015, 09:13:35 am
Da FUQ? It's all about the 360 controller up in this bitch!



That device is actually next on my list to replace my 16 year old USB compatible, 10-button gamepad controller by Gravis Pro.  :)


Seriously.  Ya gotta have a mechanical gaming keyboard nowadays to handle games with at least 20 different control functions.  Hell, even the old school PC games demands this type of device. 
Ever try playing a computer role-playing game without the keyboard?  Not fun.  :(

Even if you don't game on the PC, this keyboard is excellent for administrative tasks.
Title: Re: Any PC freaks?
Post by: Maxine Shaw on February 04, 2017, 10:14:06 am
Wowwwwwww. Reading this thread has brought back some nightmarish memories. Look at my first rig, fam. (http://hudlinentertainment.com/smf/index.php?topic=3876.msg66725#msg66725) I don't even have a media reader in my HTPC anymore - if I need a DVD for whatever reason, I just plug one in. I even took the DVD-ROM out of my laptop. And I never did wind up building two of them b/c when I moved, I made a pact not to bring my TV into my bedroom. Gave up looking for a nice HTPC case long ago - you can be a gamer w/a sweet card or you can have a nice-looking case, but it seems to be hard to do both.

Never thought I'd see the day where my drives are 1 TB, but they're becoming quite cheap.


Ah, technology.

So my current build is as follows:

Motherboard: AMD FX 8320 Black Edition 3.5GHz AM3+ (OC'ed to 4.3)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8 GB 1333MHz PC3-10666 240-pin DDR3
Westinghouse 47" 1080p LCD Monitor LVM-47W1 (Shut. UP. Since the backlight is starting to die, it'll be replaced eventually.)
Graphics card: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1060*
Tuner: WinTV-HVR-1250 HDTV
OS: Windows 10 x64 (with WMC hack)

*Keeping my 960 as a backup in case my 1060 ever goes down. I used my 250 when my 960 was being refurbed and that was absolutely painful.