props! I hope it is re-run soon.. I missed the first hour or so, I attended a local vigil at the Motown Museum...
props! I hope it is re-run soon.. I missed the first hour or so, I attended a local vigil at the Motown Museum...
Please tell us about that event...
I took some photos, I'll have to post them later today..
Can I just say how happy I am that Hudlin wasn't the head of BET when this went down? ;Dwhy is that?
Can I just say how happy I am that Hudlin wasn't the head of BET when this went down? ;Dwhy is that?
The rumor is Jay-Z told the producers he and Beyonce wouldn't perform if Chris Brown was allowed to be on the show, so he was dropped at the last minute. I don't know how true it is.
The rumor is Jay-Z told the producers he and Beyonce wouldn't perform if Chris Brown was allowed to be on the show, so he was dropped at the last minute. I don't know how true it is.
The other Black site I go on NA, HATED IT. They said everybody was drunk, Jaime Foxx's penis joke was in bad taste, Ving Rhames embarassed himself, Beyonce was an attention whore in an ugly dress, the MJ "tribute" was whack, they were mad Chris Brown got banned by Jay-Z because he could of done a better job with MJ material than Ne-Yo, Bobby Brown looked like a grizzly bear with a bad mohawk, Wayne cursed too much and they felt it was ghetto and disorganized.what is this site
I got tired of trying to defend B.E.T in the face of such opposition. I thought it was the best award show they've had since Mo'Nique did Beyonce's "Uh Oh" dance the first time. The New Edition performance, Maxwell, Jay-Z, Keith Sweat, B.B.D. Guy, Wanda and Shenaynay set it off and the whole show was exciting and unpredictable. They did the best they could with 3 days of planning.
Click "Anything Goes Discussion". [url]http://www.nudeafrica.com/discus/index.html[/url]oh crap :o This is why i dont like those site because it is full of fat girls hiding their faces.
What would've topped it off would Nas performing "It Ain't Hard To Tell".
Interesting review ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_fHqx8gskk&feature=player_embedded[/url])
Interesting review ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_fHqx8gskk&feature=player_embedded[/url])OH LOOK surprise surprise another "bet is ignorant" comment. ::)
Interesting review ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_fHqx8gskk&feature=player_embedded[/url])OH LOOK surprise surprise another "bet is ignorant" comment. ::)
Interesting review ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_fHqx8gskk&feature=player_embedded[/url])OH LOOK surprise surprise another "bet is ignorant" comment. ::)
O.K. the guy was funny but, folks really need to stop with this "BET is embarrasing the race" meme.
Didn't these silly mofos get the memo that there is a Black President now? Who is on T.V. nearly every day?
Freaking Al Roker is on T.V. everyday. Dyson and/or Smiley are on T.V. nearly every Sunday.
In the face of that you'd have have to be determinely stupid or racist
to take the BET Awards as being representative of anything other than the Black Music Industry.
Aside from the poor production values(due all the M.J stuff having to done at the last second)
I didn't have that muuch of a problem with the show.
Jeff Johnson's show lived and died without a single word from these boogie SOB's.
They don't have the RIGHT to an opinion anymore.
No one is apologizing. BMWing the discussion once again about BET is getting old. The arguments are the same and no one is doing anything about. Yes some of the shows are a bit out there. I could have swore that not all black people act the same. You are just seeing tv shows of different characters that is it. Does TvOne have a news thing going? I mean other than sh*tty black tv shows reruns and G Garvin what does TvOne have? Black Men Revealed? with the current sh*tty hosts? Peaches? Whatever nigga
Cmon, Vic. :D
BET is WACK and deserves every bit of the criticism it gets! Stop apologizing for this sh*t!
Where's that Black Panther show? Hannibal? American Gangster season 4? A nightly news show?
Oh, they don't have those, but what they do have is bullsh*t reality show's with Tiny and Toya and Frankie and Neffie? Really? That's what people want to see?
And exactly what does Barack Obama have to do with the foolishness BET is trying to pass off as entertainment? A Black president forgives all sins? Please.
If you think that people don't look at the BET awards as being indicative of the race, you're fooling yourself. It's not just a music awards show. Sorry.
They've been producing an awards show for, what, nine years now? And this is the best that they can do? High school production mistakes? They've got Viacom money to spend now. BET should have the same production value and professionalism as anything that VH1 produces. But nope. Why bother? Black people should be accustomed to second and third rate product, right?
Jeff Johnson's show was good. I watched it every week. But they didn't really promote it (like they did with Keisha Cole's and DMX's shows) and tried to jam too much into a thirty-minute format. Who's fault is that?
Interesting review ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_fHqx8gskk&feature=player_embedded[/url])OH LOOK surprise surprise another "bet is ignorant" comment. ::)
O.K. the guy was funny but, folks really need to stop with this "BET is embarrasing the race" meme.
Didn't these silly mofos get the memo that there is a Black President now? Who is on T.V. nearly every day?
Freaking Al Roker is on T.V. everyday. Dyson and/or Smiley are on T.V. nearly every Sunday.
In the face of that you'd have have to be determinely stupid or racist
to take the BET Awards as being representative of anything other than the Black Music Industry.
Aside from the poor production values(due all the M.J stuff having to done at the last second)
I didn't have that muuch of a problem with the show.
Jeff Johnson's show lived and died without a single word from these boogie SOB's.
They don't have the RIGHT to an opinion anymore.
Cmon, Vic. :D
BET is WACK and deserves every bit of the criticism it gets! Stop apologizing for this sh*t!
Where's that Black Panther show? Hannibal? American Gangster season 4? A nightly news show?
Oh, they don't have those, but what they do have is bullsh*t reality show's with Tiny and Toya and Frankie and Neffie? Really? That's what people want to see?
And exactly what does Barack Obama have to do with the foolishness BET is trying to pass off as entertainment? A Black president forgives all sins? Please.
If you think that people don't look at the BET awards as being indicative of the race, you're fooling yourself. It's not just a music awards show. Sorry.
They've been producing an awards show for, what, nine years now? And this is the best that they can do? High school production mistakes? They've got Viacom money to spend now. BET should have the same production value and professionalism as anything that VH1 produces. But nope. Why bother? Black people should be accustomed to second and third rate product, right?
Jeff Johnson's show was good. I watched it every week. But they didn't really promote it (like they did with Keisha Cole's and DMX's shows) and tried to jam too much into a thirty-minute format. Who's fault is that?
No one is apologizing. BMWing the discussion once again about BET is getting old. The arguments are the same and no one is doing anything about. Yes some of the shows are a bit out there. I could have swore that not all black people act the same. You are just seeing tv shows of different characters that is it. Does TvOne have a news thing going? I mean other than sh*tty black tv shows reruns and G Garvin what does TvOne have? Black Men Revealed? with the current sh*tty hosts? Peaches? Whatever nigga
No one is apologizing. BMWing the discussion once again about BET is getting old. The arguments are the same and no one is doing anything about. Yes some of the shows are a bit out there. I could have swore that not all black people act the same. You are just seeing tv shows of different characters that is it. Does TvOne have a news thing going? I mean other than sh*tty black tv shows reruns and G Garvin what does TvOne have? Black Men Revealed? with the current sh*tty hosts? Peaches? Whatever nigga
BMWing? ??? I dont know what that means.
This isn't about TVone. That's a straw man argument. TVOne's the new kid on the block. BET's been around for almost thirty years. THIRTY years and they're still having audio issues? C'mon, now. Thirty years and they touting Frankie and Neffie like it's what's hot in the streets. Yes, the arguments are old. Because BET is still not living up to it's potential. It's still offering sub-par, warmed over entertainment. Thirty years, this thing should be something to be proud of, not something to be ridiculed.
BMWing = Bitching, Moaning and Whining.
BMWing? ??? I dont know what that means.
This isn't about TVone. That's a straw man argument. TVOne's the new kid on the block. BET's been around for almost thirty years. THIRTY years and they're still having audio issues? C'mon, now. Thirty years and they touting Frankie and Neffie like it's what's hot in the streets. Yes, the arguments are old. Because BET is still not living up to it's potential. It's still offering sub-par, warmed over entertainment. Thirty years, this thing should be something to be proud of, not something to be ridiculed.
TV that offers sub-par warmed over entertainment?
Dude how is that different from 95 percent of all TV period?
Dag.
TV One is relevant as hell. It is BET’s main competitor for the Black market.
And as BET’s competitor, what does it do to distinguish itself?
Reality T.V., celebrity gossip and chat and old syndicated Black T.V. shows.
In other words they exact same thing BET is doing except that A) their reality shows are about old people(e.g. Patty Labelle) B)they have Michael Baisen and BET has Wendy Williams (a push in my opinion) and C) they got cooking shows.
Got to give it up for the cooking shows.
Yeah, that’ll show BET how cable TV is supposed to be done.
Y'all are reality-challeged.
These stations aren't trying to be Black PBS(which isn't even a for profit venture) they are trying to turn a profit(with limited resources).
That what the programming reflects.
BMWing = Bitching, Moaning and Whining.
Actually it is about TvOne. As stated from Vic it is Bet competition. Giving it the "new kid on the block" as the excuse is very moot.
You are using the same argument just like everyone else making your point off the basis of one television show. Again not all black people act the same. And again BET just like any other network, you are looking at different types of characters on different shows. Are you one of the people against the crap that Tyler Perry shell out? If not then you are fooling yourself with you argument about BET.
Bunk it, why NOT Frankie and Neffie? If folks will watch it.
You aint being anything near to realistic about this so I am just about done here.
Fact is, if YOU were running BET or TV One you would not be doing anything different from
what the guys there are doing now. Not if you wanted to keep your job there anyway.
Cheap shows to pull in the young urban market. Because that is their target demo.
Nobody there(or at TV ONE or at SPIKE) is trying to do Roc or Living Single type shows too expensive
to produce and what if nobody watches the thing? Dramas cost even more than single cam sitcoms.
News is expensive and nobody watches it (see CBS).
Nobody watches Public Affairs shows either.
If Tony Brown and Tavis Smiley could generate advertising dough they would not be on public television.
BET decisions are mostly sound (they need to bring American Gangster and Uncut back and ignore thier critics-those shows MADE MONEY) that they offend folks sensibilities is irrelevent.
Now, does anybody actually want to talk about the Awards Show now?
If not, lock this thread.
Bunk it, why NOT Frankie and Neffie? If folks will watch it.
Where's that Black Panther show? Hannibal? American Gangster season 4? A nightly news show?
Oh, they don't have those, but what they do have is bullsh*t reality show's with Tiny and Toya and Frankie and Neffie? Really? That's what people want to see?
Apparently so. And Tiny and Toya was a great show.
Not all black women can be Michelle Obama - or even want to be.
And Bravo's Real Housewives are the highest rated shows in that networks history. They're no better than Frankie and Neffie, I really don't see your point. "Bad" tv is "bad" tv across the board but you just want to single out the Black folks.
"Wow.
That's what you got out of this? I'm giving out passes to Bravo but criticizing BET 'cause I want to single out Black people?
Really? "
Yeah, that's exactly what I took from it Sporty. Is it a problem?
::)
"BET apologists" wow that is a good one. Then one can say the same about "BET Critics" with the same argument of "BET makes us black people look bad" which is just another way to point the finger at Hip-Hop/Rap music videos. The only valid argument is that BET don't have any "BET Original" drama or sitcoms. At first they did but unfortunately they were canceled. Remember for a while BET had original movies where certain black authors and their books came to life and these same movies had B to C list actors in them? Black Panther is the potential savior (if it ever come out) The point is BET is a TV network and they experiment with a TV show, if it does well rating wise it stays on if it doesn't then it will be cut off.
But Akuma, it's not an indictment of hip-hop videos. That's unfair. BET doesn't produce videos. Those come from the labels. No, the problem is that BET will only support certain types of artists. If you're a Soulja Boy/Lil Wayne wannabe, mouth and neck full of platinum, big booty bitches all up in the video? Cool. BET's got a spot for you. But if you're work is more eclectic or, dare I say it, political or socially conscious? Kick rocks.Unfair? dude that is the main complaint regarding BET. Nevermind that the majority of the TV shows that air have a Hip-Hop/Rap theme to them. I guess the best option is to have wannabe a Common, Taleb Kweli or Mos Def instead?
When HBO and Showtime first started producing original films and series, they were lame. Just like BET they all featured B and C level talent. But they stayed at it until they had the capital and reputation to attract A-listers. BET showed no heart or perseverance and jumped out of the game early. These things take time. You've gotta grow and cultivate an audience.Maybe it got out early because people weren't looking at them. Sad in my opinion.
I hope Panther does well. I hope it's on the same level as those Batman/Superman shows from the late 90's or this new Spiderman show. I hope it pulls BET out of the broadcast ghetto they put themselves in and stimulates a network wide desire to DO BETTER.i hope so too. This could be the thing that really make a huge change and impact
Unfair? dude that is the main complaint regarding BET. Nevermind that the majority of the TV shows that air have a Hip-Hop/Rap theme to them. I guess the best option is to have wannabe a Common, Taleb Kweli or Mos Def instead?
Maybe it got out early because people weren't looking at them. Sad in my opinion.
i hope so too. This could be the thing that really make a huge change and impact
"Wow.
That's what you got out of this? I'm giving out passes to Bravo but criticizing BET 'cause I want to single out Black people?
Really? "
Yeah, that's exactly what I took from it Sporty. Is it a problem?
Only if you care about your own reading comprehension skills.