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Title: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: Jenn on September 08, 2009, 05:18:08 pm
Yeahhhh...sounds about right.
http://www.honeysoul.com/wp/2009/09/a-look-at-bet-from-a-former-insider/
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on September 08, 2009, 06:04:36 pm
How can BET not have a confidentiality clause at this point?

It seems that ex BET employees can open their own publishing house with the amount of tell-alls that are supposedly on the way.
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: Jenn on September 08, 2009, 07:05:18 pm
I'm trying to remember if my contract did or didn't. I think I still have a copy w/all my important papers; if I find it, I'll let you know. But I'm pretty sure BET's legal department is about as competent as their financial department.
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on September 08, 2009, 07:20:55 pm
I'm trying to remember if my contract did or didn't. I think I still have a copy w/all my important papers; if I find it, I'll let you know. But I'm pretty sure BET's legal department is about as competent as their financial department.

If it doesn't I think we can all expect the following.

FADE TO BLACK: My Life Behind The Walls of BET By Jenn 8)
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: Vic Vega on September 08, 2009, 08:04:53 pm
I gotta say almost none of that stuff surprises me the least bit.

Except for the part about BET hiring her to "silence" her.

She needs to get a grip.

I doubt her hirers knew or cared about her attitude towards them. These guys just saw her hiring as a medal of sorts for themselves.

Classic tunnel vision.

The only thing any of those guys ae interested in is "does this make me look good" which you will note is a different question entirely from "Am I doing my job?"

I'm pretty sure the New York Knicks are run the same way.

Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: voodoochild on September 09, 2009, 03:18:39 pm
 ;)
The author is male.
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: FLEX HECTIC on September 14, 2009, 09:23:51 am
See what had happened was...

 
I should just show up at BET like Heath Ledger's Joker and do what I do best!


I should time it just right so that my entrance is during one of those "important" meetings turned into a shouting match!


Flex Joker: "What happened black folks... did our creative ballz fall off after Blade Trinity dropped?"

BET Exec: "Enough wit da clown!"

(Flex stands up and opens his primary colored jacket to expose mayonnaise condiments tied to a string of firecrackers)

Flex Joker: "Let's not blow this... I mean snap this out of proportion!"

Debra Lee: "Reggie, would you please come get your TROLL for I catch a case up in there!"

Flex Joker: "My card."

(Flex Joker leaves an authentic and rare one of a kind 50 cent off coupon for Church's Chicken's #4 special with a side of beans, gravy and a soft drink cause that's how he rolls big like dat)


So where should I send my resume... I might be the one I'm looking for!
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: Jenn on September 14, 2009, 12:54:07 pm
I'm trying to remember if my contract did or didn't. I think I still have a copy w/all my important papers; if I find it, I'll let you know. But I'm pretty sure BET's legal department is about as competent as their financial department.

If it doesn't I think we can all expect the following.

FADE TO BLACK: My Life Behind The Walls of BET By Jenn 8)

The funny thing is that as much as I can't stand "The Boondocks", it was Rollo Goodlove that gave me the bet advice for working there: Niggas is gon' be niggas. After that, I was fine as long as I didn't think about money.
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: Afro Samurai on April 09, 2010, 04:02:38 pm
B.E.T. was f*ck up as soon as it was sold to those evil white folks.

LOL@ Jenn, you & Reginald Hudlin would make an excellent couple.
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on April 09, 2010, 07:13:13 pm
B.E.T. was f*ck up as soon as it was sold to those evil white folks.

LOL@ Jenn, you & Reginald Hudlin would make an excellent couple.

I am NOT, NOT, going down this road, but I have to say when people blame the problems of BET on its sale to Viacom it drives me crazy. 
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on April 09, 2010, 08:31:23 pm
B.E.T. was f*ck up as soon as it was sold to those evil white folks.

LOL@ Jenn, you & Reginald Hudlin would make an excellent couple.

I am NOT, NOT, going down this road, but I have to say when people blame the problems of BET on its sale to Viacom it drives me crazy. 

The road is calling you, Reggie!

It's calling you! 8)
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: Afro Samurai on April 09, 2010, 08:33:15 pm
B.E.T. was f*ck up as soon as it was sold to those evil white folks.

LOL@ Jenn, you & Reginald Hudlin would make an excellent couple.

I am NOT, NOT, going down this road, but I have to say when people blame the problems of BET on its sale to Viacom it drives me crazy. 

Why with all due respect Hudlin, B.E.T. went more whitewashed when  the evil white folks (Viacom) brought it. "BET New" was an excellent program......Viacom took it off. It used have Jazz....Viacom took that down. I mean now BET is showing the Matrix, did special on Indiana Jones & Underground, showing N'sync videos, etc. Back in the day, B.E.T. would HAD NEVER DONE THAT. With music: Everything but white. Movies: If it don't have black lead in it, then BET aint showing it. It sad when CNN's Black in America is better then 99 percent of the shows on B.E.T. Come on a retard ass show like "Frankie and Neffe" should had never been made onto B.E.T. Us blacks rarely own anything & with selling of motown & B.E.T. hurt us alot. I hope you can see where I am coming from. I mean come on even with your own Black Panther show it is taking forever to be on B.E.T. Something that black & cool should had been on there ASAP!!

I know you don't want to go down that road, I am just giving you my take on it.
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: Mastrmynd on April 10, 2010, 09:25:21 am
u r my boy afro but i bet you are one of those BET fans from way back when Bob Johnson was runnin' thangs.
am i right?
Me? I am not.
Bob johnson didnt care about you OR BET? Why?  he had yearrrrsss to put out quality programming. did he? no... we had Video Soul and a billion other music video shows.
1. how much does it cost to get music videos?  they are sent to you free by the record company.
2. bob then charges advertisers to advertise during these shows that are cheap to produce.
3. but wait...there's more: on the weekends, he ran nothin but infomericals. NOTHING.BUT.INFOMERICALS!
He then pockets that money and sells BET to Viacom...EVEN MORE MONEY!

I didn't go back to BET until Reggie Reg came on board. real talk.
Somebodies (Reggie Reg, i'm sorry BET didn't support this great show), and all the other various outside-the-box shows that came about during his reign.
why was Reggie Reg responsible for BET's FIRST scripted series?  Hmmm?

Why are ppl flockin' to TV One?  Because TV One is doing things that BET should have done in the 80s if not 90s!!!  Aaargh! it's so frustrating.

At this year's upfront BET should be promoting 2 new scripted series: The Game and another comedy starring Essence Atkins and Ronreaco Lee (Stn Mtn High School stand up!!).
I still believe in the new BET.  There was a definite dip when Reggie Reg left but they are starting to move back in the right direction.

This is MY opinion... i know others may differ, but i can't even count the amount of BET convos i've been in...shucks, i was in one this morning on the set of a commercial shoot.

that's my time. all i need is Somebodies the movie and the series on DVD and i'm good 2 go.
holla.
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on April 10, 2010, 05:21:21 pm
I find in general people are nostalgic about whatever they liked in high school.  It could be music, TV shows, comic books, whatever.  Folks complain that BET/MTV isn't as good as it was back in the day.  Continuity hounds beef about changes in their favorite comic book character.  And of course, the constant complaint that the music that kids are listening to is garbage compared to my jams. 

My dad felt that except for Stevie Wonder, all music after Duke Ellington sucked.  If I grew up partying to music that rich, I might agree with him. 

There's no doubt in my mind comics today are the best that comics have ever been, and that the average comic is better drawn and written than any other era.

So sometimes things DO get better; sometimes things do get worse.  But some folks don't like change at all.

But I do believe that black people have to take responsibility for our lives.  We can't blame white people for all our failures, and claim our triumphs as solely ours. 

I don't share your rosy memories of pre-Viacom BET.  It was different, but better?
What it was then, and what it is now, is subjective.  I'm not here to convince you of anything one way or the other.
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on April 10, 2010, 06:13:25 pm
Much of the professional analysis surrounding BET e.g. Newspapers, magazines. online articles etc. has been shoddy and anecdotal at best. What I would really like to see is an in-depth review of BET from 2006-2009.

BET has always been a running punchline in the Black community and an easy target for mini-mart revolutionaries to use as a scapegoat for every pathology under the sun. People have complained for years( LOUDLY) that BET was: uimaginative, unprofessional and most of all irrelevant in terms of modern media and appealing to a broad spectrum of Blacks.

Then came Reggie.

The professionalism, innovation and relevance thaso many clamored for came in the form of AMERICAN GANGSTER, BALDWIN HILLS, COLLEGE HILL, SOMEBODIES and HIP HOP VS AMERICA. The response from the usual suspects were protests, boycotts, and self-aggrandizement on an obscene scale. And it couldnt've been any other way. When you are a semi-professional complainer, you must have something to fuel your psuedo occupation.

The biggest indictment of the BET critics can be seen in the aftermath of Reggie's departure. Almost all of the hit series that were created during that time are gone and have been replaced by some of the most insipid, boring and frankly pathetic programming on the air today. Despite this fact, there are NO protests or boycotts but simply silence as the critics have now become as irrelevant as BET's lineup.


Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: Afro Samurai on April 10, 2010, 09:36:35 pm
@Mastrmynd

I know Bob Johnson don't care for us, b/c he wouldnt had sold it if he did. True at the million of music shows, but we did had that jazz program, BET New & Teen Summit with that big booty vixen Ananda Lewis (speaking of which there was extra hot woman hosting some music show r&b i think....I forgot her name).

BET was bad to begin with. It just gotten wayy worse with all the whiteness. You can't deny that it gotten more whitewash then b4. Providing positive entertainment solely for black ppl was the main goal for BET (even if Bob Johnson did lied about that, other ppl running it should had continue that goal). Bob Johnson & Viacom is at fault. Bob know how evil Viacom is and Viacom fault is for being racist & evil.

Sure "Somebodies", "Hey Monie", "Black Panther", "Hannibal the Conqueror" etc. was produced after BET was brought by viacom...but by then it was more whitewash then ever. And look what happen to those shows....both of them got canceled, BP aint even on there yet, Hannibal is i dont even know. Cause Viacom think we are just stupid monkeys only into eating fried chicken, watermelon being ignorant, violent & just listening to hip hop.   

You are right with BET should had been like TVOne. But, you honestly think with Viacom running it, it is going to get like that? Viacom is not our friend at all. If Hudlin was there when BET was Black owned "prolly" more original cool stuff would had been produced. In order for black corporations to be big like whites, we need to stop looking for short term greed. Cause white corps. rule most of the world's money (Cola Cola make 80% of their money outside of America). NBC rejected Bill Cosby's money TWICE to buy their channel. Cause they are scare we are going to take over. Just like with sports, musics, etc.

Alot of studios rejected the idea of Outkast's Idlewild cause these white executives thought that "blacks wouldnt want see a movie about black ppl in the 30's"....and this was right after the huge success of their "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below."

http://www.comicvine.com/news/san-diego-comic-con-2009-reggie-hudlin/138986/

Even in this interview she ask something like to Mr. Hudlin: "You still think that (black) kids of today would still be able to related to BP?" Now, she wouldn't DARE ask that question about a white character. B/c it would be look as a stupid one, since white can totally relates to powerful gods & black totally cant  ::).

I shown these 2 examples to make you realize that these white corps. really don't care about us. But then again, you & Hudlin are in hollywood. Y'all know about this racist bs more then me.

Sure, both Bob & Viacom are evil. But Viacom always been the greater evil & has more power. Also remember Bob is black, I am not gonna go all out on a fellow brotha. Bob sadly lost his way and I wish he can stop selling out.

@Reginald Hudlin

Sry. if you think I felt that the old BET was godly good, cause to me it wasnt. It just gotten worse with the all the whiteness. There better shows now then b4...but also gotten much more white. I dont want it to come to a point where it has good shows.......with hardly any blacks ppl in them. For that, I can watch the hundred of other channels. BET should had always stay F.U.B.U.



 



Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on April 12, 2010, 08:05:15 am
Providing positive entertainment solely for black ppl was the main goal for BET (even if Bob Johnson did lied about that, other ppl running it should had continue that goal).


It seems to me that BET serves as some kind of Rorschach test. I don't think positivity was ever a corporate goal. According to Bob Johnson in this 1995 article (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1154/is_n2_v83/ai_16420273/):
Quote
"We really haven't strayed that far from our primary mission," Johnson says, "which was to be the primary black media company in the country."


Whatever you think of BET, it has always been a for-profit business (although that's redundant) and never black PBS.
Title: A promotion
Post by: Battle on March 13, 2011, 06:24:34 am
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BET CEO Named to Presidential Advisory Board
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I Am Lee-t!

President Barack Obama on Thursday announced the nomination of Debra L. Lee, chairman and CEO of BET Networks, a unit of Viacom, to serve on the Presidentís Management Advisory Board.

Would you like to know more?
http://www.bet.com/News/DebraLeeAdvisoryBoard
Title: Re: A promotion
Post by: BmoreAkuma on March 29, 2011, 08:54:38 am
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BET CEO Named to Presidential Advisory Board
([url]http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w184/Battle-D/HEFlee_01.jpg[/url])
I Am Lee-t!

President Barack Obama on Thursday announced the nomination of Debra L. Lee, chairman and CEO of BET Networks, a unit of Viacom, to serve on the Presidentís Management Advisory Board.

Would you like to know more?
[url]http://www.bet.com/News/DebraLeeAdvisoryBoard[/url]
I don't know if this is good news or bad news.
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: Redjack on September 24, 2011, 05:23:41 pm
I find in general people are nostalgic about whatever they liked in high school.  It could be music, TV shows, comic books, whatever.  Folks complain that BET/MTV isn't as good as it was back in the day.  Continuity hounds beef about changes in their favorite comic book character.  And of course, the constant complaint that the music that kids are listening to is garbage compared to my jams. 

My dad felt that except for Stevie Wonder, all music after Duke Ellington sucked.  If I grew up partying to music that rich, I might agree with him. 

There's no doubt in my mind comics today are the best that comics have ever been, and that the average comic is better drawn and written than any other era.

So sometimes things DO get better; sometimes things do get worse.  But some folks don't like change at all.

But I do believe that black people have to take responsibility for our lives.  We can't blame white people for all our failures, and claim our triumphs as solely ours. 


motto.
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on September 24, 2011, 06:39:56 pm
 
There's no doubt in my mind comics today are the best that comics have ever been, and that the average comic is better drawn and written than any other era.

Absolutely not!

I can't even chalk this up to being subjective. The 80's by far are the Golden Age of the medium. There were better books across the board with much greater diversity than exists today.

Exhibit A

AMERICAN FLAGG
LOVE AND ROCKETS
GRENDEL
MAGE
JON SABLE
RONIN
V FOR VENDETTA
WATCHMEN
MIRACLEMAN
DARK KNIGHT RETURNS

I won't even get to the monthly greatness that was prevalent back then.
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: Redjack on September 24, 2011, 07:19:07 pm
quality is subjective but I don't think you can make the case that the books then were more diverse. numerically it's simply not possible.
Title: Re: A Look At BET From A Former Insider
Post by: Vic Vega on September 24, 2011, 09:58:57 pm
 
There's no doubt in my mind comics today are the best that comics have ever been, and that the average comic is better drawn and written than any other era.

Absolutely not!

I can't even chalk this up to being subjective. The 80's by far are the Golden Age of the medium. There were better books across the board with much greater diversity than exists today.

Exhibit A

AMERICAN FLAGG
LOVE AND ROCKETS
GRENDEL
MAGE
JON SABLE
RONIN
V FOR VENDETTA
WATCHMEN
MIRACLEMAN
DARK KNIGHT RETURNS

I won't even get to the monthly greatness that was prevalent back then.

You forgot to mention:

Alien Legion
Nexus
Dreadstar
Dalgoda
Kief Llama, Xenotech
Whisper
Groo The Wanderer
Elfquest (not my thing personally, but I know it was big)

There are probably more books being published now, but the quality aint there.

Even the 90's had those hipster coffee house soap operas like Private Beach, Wahoo Serious, Tales of The Coffeehouse  and ArtGirl to recommend them.

Other than the usual there isnt much to throw a party over these days.