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Title: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Jay on March 22, 2010, 07:45:32 pm
So is it just me ... or is this wrong?

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/03/chris-evans-takes-captain-americas-shield.html
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: JRCarter on March 22, 2010, 07:58:00 pm
I would have preferred Scott Eastwood:

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Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: JLI Jesse on March 22, 2010, 08:48:53 pm
I'm fine with this.  I think he'll probably do a good job.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Francisco on March 22, 2010, 08:56:45 pm
Too boyish for my taste.. But who knows he might do a good job.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Hypestyle on March 22, 2010, 08:57:27 pm
I liked the suggestion of Matt Damon for star power.. But.. well, Mr. Evans is young enough, handsome enough and I guess cheap enough.. I hope Fox ditches their option with the FanFour films, let Marvel Studios reboot that with Disney..

..I wonder if the filmmakers will do some FX to make him look really skinny, pre-serum..
.. will Bucky be seen/involved at all?  Will any Invaders or Howling Commandos be seen..

... I suspect that "The Truth" storyline elements will be completely ignored (perhaps for the best, so Mr. Reggie can do that film  ;)  )

..I want a cool looking outfit.. and it had better not be 'delayed' until the 3rd act..  >:(

..side note-- I wonder if/when that 1990 epic fail will get released on dvd..
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Open palm on March 22, 2010, 09:07:44 pm
I'm okay with it. I just wonder if he'll do a Brooklyn accent for the role.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Emperorjones on March 23, 2010, 02:21:40 am
Don't have a problem with Evans. I think he can handle the action stuff well, but I'm curious to see how his take on the character will be. He was perfect as Johnny Storm, but Steve Rogers is a much different character. I read that Hugo Weaving is in the running for the Red Skull, which would be a really good casting choice if they can get him.

Sorry Hype but The Truth will never get the big screen treatment. I agree though that it will be ignored, but here's hoping that there's a Bradley cameo in the film at least, or a mention, perhaps in passing, of the first round of experiments.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Catch22 on March 23, 2010, 07:06:50 am
they signed Weaving before they got Evans.  I would have loved to see Matt Damon or even Mark Valley in the role.  That being said, I think Evans will do an OK job.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: The Dark Wright on March 23, 2010, 08:48:36 am
Seems kinda ridiculous to have the same actor play multiple characters in a universe where all the people in it intersect at one time or another.

Kind of like DC asking Chris Bale to play Superman once he and Chris Nolan are done with Batman ???

I still think Dennis Quaid would be the best Cap.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Catch22 on March 23, 2010, 10:51:42 am
Seems kinda ridiculous to have the same actor play multiple characters in a universe where all the people in it intersect at one time or another.

Kind of like DC asking Chris Bale to play Superman once he and Chris Nolan are done with Batman ???

I still think Dennis Quaid would be the best Cap.

Maybe Dennis Quaid 20 years ago.  ;D
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Vic Vega on March 23, 2010, 11:28:35 am
I have no problem with this.

He and Chlikis saved the FF movies(they'd of been far worse without them).

Him or Channing Tatum (the other choice I heard) is fine with me.

You guys have to remember that 40's Cap is a different animal than the present day Cap. He is going be (for this movie) the young guy that steps up into greatness as opposed to the seasoned leader of men that we are used to seeing.

Pretty much the version of Cap we saw in the 90's Adventures Of Captain America mini.

Which was a great read BTW.

Seems kinda ridiculous to have the same actor play multiple characters in a universe where all the people in it intersect at one time or another.

So far only Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Hulk and the Avengers characters(Pym, Wasp and Hawkeye) will be interacting.

Sony's not giving up the Spider Man franchise.

And Fox isn't giving up the X-Men.

I don't know what Fox is gonna do with the FF.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Jay on March 23, 2010, 01:02:12 pm
He's a fine actor. Although, as Captain America. I just don't think so. Someone like Johnny Storm, YES! But I really can't picture him as Cap. Am I the only one?
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Catch22 on March 23, 2010, 01:51:07 pm
OK...we got Cap and Red Skull out of the way...now it's time they did the right thing and at least put an Isaiah Bradley cameo in there...and make him Snake Doctor himself!!!  Dennis Haysbert!
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Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: KIP LEWIS on March 24, 2010, 03:53:10 am
More confidence in Hugo than in Evans.  This studio is moving from the the idea that has worked--BIG name in the title role.  Evans is not a BIG name. 
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Vic Vega on March 24, 2010, 07:32:23 am
More confidence in Hugo than in Evans.  This studio is moving from the the idea that has worked--BIG name in the title role.  Evans is not a BIG name. 

Neither was Tobey Maguire. Unless you really liked Pleasantville.

And Hugh Jackman was an utter unknown coming from musical theatre(I think).

Weaving will forever have a place in the Geek Pantheon for Agent Smith and Elrond. But V convinced me that he can act effectively behind a mask.

At this point I have more misgivings about the Director than the cast.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on March 24, 2010, 07:48:40 am
More confidence in Hugo than in Evans.  This studio is moving from the the idea that has worked--BIG name in the title role.  Evans is not a BIG name. 

Neither was Tobey Maguire.

Not to mention the actor playing Thor is an unknown. And while Downey Jr. was well known (mostly for his drugged out antics) he'd never been a box office star until Iron Man.

No way is Marvel trying to have big names in all the roles. They are only trying to pay so much for that Avengers flick.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Mastrmynd on March 24, 2010, 08:21:34 am
they signed Weaving before they got Evans.  I would have loved to see Matt Damon or even Mark Valley in the role.  That being said, I think Evans will do an OK job.

being the Mark Valley fan that I am... i think he would have made a really good Cap.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: KIP LEWIS on March 24, 2010, 08:45:57 am
Tobey and Jackman were in movies for different studios.  Going with the big names started with this studio and Iron Man.  It worked well for both Hulk and Iron Man.

Thor hasn't come out so we don't know if it will work as well with a lesser known star.

And RDJ was a big star long before Iron Man.  Air America, Chaplin, Ally McBiel, etc.  And for stars, being famous for bad behavior still gives them Star power.

  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000375/
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Rockscissorspaper on March 24, 2010, 10:12:34 am
being the Mark Valley fan that I am... i think he would have made a really good Cap.

I think he's a little old for Cap in an origin flick.


And RDJ was a big star long before Iron Man.  Air America, Chaplin, Ally McBiel, etc.  And for stars, being famous for bad behavior still gives them Star power.

"Big" star or not he was never a box office star until Iron Man. The movie revived his career...and would've done well even without him, IMO.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Mastrmynd on March 24, 2010, 11:05:33 am
being the Mark Valley fan that I am... i think he would have made a really good Cap.

I think he's a little old for Cap in an origin flick.

THIS IS TRUE. LIKE I SAID, I'M A MARK VALLEY FAN.  KEEN EDDIE, ANYONE?


And RDJ was a big star long before Iron Man.  Air America, Chaplin, Ally McBiel, etc.  And for stars, being famous for bad behavior still gives them Star power.

"Big" star or not he was never a box office star until Iron Man. The movie revived his career...and would've done well even without him, IMO.

I AGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT. IRON MAN PUT HIM OVER THE TOP! IT MADE PPL LOOOOOOVE HIM FOR HIS EXTRAORDINARY ABILITIES AND NOT HIS BAD BOY IMAGE.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Vic Vega on March 24, 2010, 03:40:24 pm
If not for Iron Man RDJ would have been doing James Toback films for the duration.

Which isn't a BAD thing,  mind you.

But at least 'Ol boy has options now.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: BlackRodimus on March 24, 2010, 04:36:49 pm
What everyone keeps forgetting is that whoever they get to be Captain America has to agree to sign A NINE PICTURE DEAL. 3 Captain America movies, 3 Avengers movies, and 3 cameos in other Marvel Studios's projects. That's a decade's worth of movies, so they need someone YOUNG who will age INTO the role. Chris is 28 now, by the time the last of the 9 projects roles around, he'll be either 37 or 38. Still youngish looking to be believable.

Matt Damon is going to be 40 this year.
Mark Valley is going to be 46.

Everyone else's favorite fanboy pick is too old with this criteria, as well as too much of a big name star to NOT balk at the idea of a nine picture deal, unlike Evans whose acting career isn't really going anywhere at the moment. They need a name, but not too big of a name because of that. That's why an unknown won't do, either.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Joel Mangrum on March 24, 2010, 04:52:29 pm
I'm not thrilled with the pick but not disappointed.  It HAS to be better than the 1990's Cap movie that had the president of the US picking up an uzi to help out.  So far Marvel's been batting 90% (really?  you couldn't bring back Terence Howard?) so i'll give them the benefit of the doubt. 
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: voodoochild on March 24, 2010, 06:17:26 pm
I'm just glad it wasn't Channing Tatum.  I would've boycotted that film.  :D  That guy is a black hole of talent.  Of their nominees, Chris Evans is probably the best of the bunch.
Joel, you thought Terence Howard made a good Rhodey?
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Open palm on March 24, 2010, 08:16:25 pm
I agree that a young actor was needed for the role. Steve Rogers wasn't a young adult who got zapped into his thirties. The super serum only transformed his weak physique.

The whole franchise deal thing has become a problem, IMHO. They're emphasize a need for younger actors. But it's becoming less plausible for them to play capable heroes. For example fans thought the next James Bond should be younger, which defeats the character. 007 was written to be an experienced naval officer who qualified for spy work. His military career gave him the exposure to different languages and field work. So Bond was in his late 30's or early 40's. Thus he is an older man.

Donner's Superman spent his 20's training in the Fortress of Solitude. He left as Superman at the age of 30. Nolan's Bruce Wayne also returned to Gotham before his 30th birthday. Fans complained at how that would affect the appearance of Robin, but it was reasonable detail. If they ever have a Wonder Woman film I expect they'll be wise enough to cast a mature actress.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Hypestyle on March 25, 2010, 08:12:56 am

At this point I have more misgivings about the Director than the cast.

what did you think about Johnston's Wolfman?  I dug it but it felt abruptly paced in certain spots..

I'm not familiar with all his films.. I liked Jurassic Park 3, but I felt it was too short..
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Mastrmynd on March 25, 2010, 09:21:31 am
What everyone keeps forgetting is that whoever they get to be Captain America has to agree to sign A NINE PICTURE DEAL. 3 Captain America movies, 3 Avengers movies, and 3 cameos in other Marvel Studios's projects. That's a decade's worth of movies, so they need someone YOUNG who will age INTO the role. Chris is 28 now, by the time the last of the 9 projects roles around, he'll be either 37 or 38. Still youngish looking to be believable.

Matt Damon is going to be 40 this year.
Mark Valley is going to be 46.

Everyone else's favorite fanboy pick is too old with this criteria, as well as too much of a big name star to NOT balk at the idea of a nine picture deal, unlike Evans whose acting career isn't really going anywhere at the moment. They need a name, but not too big of a name because of that. That's why an unknown won't do, either.

BPStorm, i feel u.
don't get it twisted, i know about the films he has to commit to.  It makes sense to go young...i just wanted to let y'all know i like Mark Valley.
lol.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Joel Mangrum on March 25, 2010, 09:26:12 am
Joel, you thought Terence Howard made a good Rhodey?

     Loaded question.  Even though he didn't look that much like Rhodey to me he was believable enough that I could let it slide and enjoy the movie.  Don Cheadle is a better actor but he doesn't look like Rhodey in the slightest.  They should have given Terence Howard the bump in pay and kept things going instead of trying to save a dollar if for no other reason they had a contract.  
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Battle on March 25, 2010, 10:37:02 am
Yeah, I thought Terrance Howard worked as Rhodey as well in Iron Man.  Why the switch?
For whatever reasons, Don Cheadle standing into the role of Rhodey can work also in Iron Man 2 but the switch can potentially alienate the two movies.

Just like what happened in the Matrix series with the Oracle being replaced with another actress. Well, O.K...  maybe that wasn't a good example as the previous actress passed away but y' know um sayin'...? :-\
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Marvelous on March 25, 2010, 11:27:54 am
Yeah, I thought Terrance Howard worked as Rhodey as well in Iron Man.  Why the switch?
For whatever reasons, Don Cheadle standing into the role of Rhodey can work also in Iron Man 2 but the switch can potentially alienate the two movies.

Just like what happened in the Matrix series with the Oracle being replaced with another actress. Well, O.K...  maybe that wasn't a good example as the previous actress passed away but y' know um sayin'...? :-\

From what I hear, Terrance was the highest paid actor on the set, even higher than RD Jr.  when negotiations for the second movie came out, they couldn't work out a deal. 
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Mastrmynd on March 25, 2010, 01:23:01 pm
Terrence is cool... i enjoyed working with him on the set of HBO's "Boycott."
did he work for me? meh. i was glad he got the gig...he seemed to enjoy it... but he didnt really become Rhodey for me.
who know Iron man would be so huge?
not the producers or directors.
since the 2nd banana cant make more than the instant mega-star they have, somethin' had to give.

I am a huge don cheadle fan. i have no DOUBT that he is gonna bring da pain.
do like they did aunt viv in the fresh prince...
jazz (to aunt viv): "you look different..."

lol
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Joel Mangrum on March 25, 2010, 02:00:44 pm
I am a huge don cheadle fan. i have no DOUBT that he is gonna bring da pain.
do like they did aunt viv in the fresh prince...
jazz (to aunt viv): "you look different..."

lol

Tell ya what, Aunt Viv #2 brought all kinds of sexy that Aunt Viv #1 just couldn't.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: JLI Jesse on March 25, 2010, 02:04:52 pm
I am a huge don cheadle fan. i have no DOUBT that he is gonna bring da pain.
do like they did aunt viv in the fresh prince...
jazz (to aunt viv): "you look different..."

lol

Tell ya what, Aunt Viv #2 brought all kinds of sexy that Aunt Viv #1 just couldn't.

But none of that no nonsense attitude that could hang with Will when need be.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Mastrmynd on March 26, 2010, 08:07:41 am
I am a huge don cheadle fan. i have no DOUBT that he is gonna bring da pain.
do like they did aunt viv in the fresh prince...
jazz (to aunt viv): "you look different..."

lol

Tell ya what, Aunt Viv #2 brought all kinds of sexy that Aunt Viv #1 just couldn't.

i'm with JLI on this one. Aunt Viv #1 is the best...but i digress.
But none of that no nonsense attitude that could hang with Will when need be.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Joel Mangrum on March 26, 2010, 09:08:35 am
I am a huge don cheadle fan. i have no DOUBT that he is gonna bring da pain.
do like they did aunt viv in the fresh prince...
jazz (to aunt viv): "you look different..."

lol

Tell ya what, Aunt Viv #2 brought all kinds of sexy that Aunt Viv #1 just couldn't.

But none of that no nonsense attitude that could hang with Will when need be.

I guess that attitude is what got her canned from Mr. Smith's show.
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Battle on March 26, 2010, 09:52:23 am
I am a huge don cheadle fan. i have no DOUBT that he is gonna bring da pain.
do like they did aunt viv in the fresh prince...
jazz (to aunt viv): "you look different..."

lol


Tell ya what, Aunt Viv #2 brought all kinds of sexy that Aunt Viv #1 just couldn't.


But none of that no nonsense attitude that could hang with Will when need be.


I guess that attitude is what got her canned from Mr. Smith's show.


Here is some insight from Janet Hubert and her experience working on the show, "Fresh Prince of Bel Air"
(http://www.blackamericaweb.com/files/images/622.pic14.article.JPG)

"There’s a machine and it was designed to make him a superstar. And that machine was designed to steamroll over anybody who got in the way. I was simply a body.” --- JANET HUBERT

http://www.blackamericaweb.com/?q=articles/entertainment/gossip/10335
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: voodoochild on March 26, 2010, 04:21:17 pm
Joel, you thought Terence Howard made a good Rhodey?


     Loaded question.  Even though he didn't look that much like Rhodey to me he was believable enough that I could let it slide and enjoy the movie.  Don Cheadle is a better actor but he doesn't look like Rhodey in the slightest.  They should have given Terence Howard the bump in pay and kept things going instead of trying to save a dollar if for no other reason they had a contract.  


Well, neither actor really looks much like Rhodey.  :D

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_O27fUAbuSXA/R1CLMD9SlQI/AAAAAAAAARI/yLK1aMEdgjk/s1600-R/Iron+Man+Rhodey+Marcy.jpg)
(http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/img/w/WarMachine_JimRhodes.jpg)
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/285/wmunmaskeder9.gif) (http://img98.imageshack.us/i/wmunmaskeder9.gif/)

Don't get me wrong, I love Terence Howard in certain roles, but he seemed miscast as Rhodey...like they got him 'cause he was the hot Black actor of the moment.  He's got this uncertain, almost weasel-y manner about him that works great in films like Hustle and Flow, Dead Presidents and Best Man, where he plays bad guys or anti-heroes. But he lacks that force of authority that I think Rhodes needs.  I don't buy him as a man of action.  He's got no strength in his voice.

As for Don Cheadle...well...look no further than Devil in a Blue Dress, Traitor, Bklyn's Finest
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Mastrmynd on March 26, 2010, 07:02:48 pm
well stated voodoo!
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: D- Ruck on April 09, 2010, 12:53:09 pm
Here is some insight from Janet Hubert and her experience working on the show, "Fresh Prince of Bel Air"
([url]http://www.blackamericaweb.com/files/images/622.pic14.article.JPG[/url])

"There’s a machine and it was designed to make him a superstar. And that machine was designed to steamroll over anybody who got in the way. I was simply a body.” --- JANET HUBERT

[url]http://www.blackamericaweb.com/?q=articles/entertainment/gossip/10335[/url]


Umm, duh, yeah it was designed to make Will Smith a star, the show was centered around him.  What did you expect was going to happen if you pissed him off?
Title: Re: Chris Evan as Captain America
Post by: Joel Mangrum on April 09, 2010, 03:55:19 pm
Here is some insight from Janet Hubert and her experience working on the show, "Fresh Prince of Bel Air"
([url]http://www.blackamericaweb.com/files/images/622.pic14.article.JPG[/url])

"There’s a machine and it was designed to make him a superstar. And that machine was designed to steamroll over anybody who got in the way. I was simply a body.” --- JANET HUBERT

[url]http://www.blackamericaweb.com/?q=articles/entertainment/gossip/10335[/url]


Umm, duh, yeah it was designed to make Will Smith a star, the show was centered around him.  What did you expect was going to happen if you pissed him off?


True though that may be, it's still no reason to act like an ass.