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General Category => Hard Choices => Topic started by: stanleyballard on December 01, 2006, 08:02:19 am

Title: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: stanleyballard on December 01, 2006, 08:02:19 am
Both have sold a ton of records during the hip hop era....both are respected within the hip hop world...both have been around for more than 10 years....my vote goes to L Boogie 'cause she is the best at what she does... her vocals are constantly at a higher level (better live shows), she is versatile with her ability to sing and rap without breaking a sweat and she can write and produce her own songs with great skill.  Now if she can get over her personal drama and return to being a true artist it would be all good.

BTW, the fact that she is fine as wine has nothing to do with my vote....LOL

L Boogie all the way!
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauren Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Francisco on December 01, 2006, 08:04:43 am
Lauren Hill in a heartbeat...
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on December 01, 2006, 08:59:30 am
I'm going the other way.  I love The Fugees and The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill.  If she would get back to work, I'd take her over just about anybody out there.  Still, 2-3 great albums just doesn't stand up to Mary J.'s body of work in my view. 
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: stanleyballard on December 01, 2006, 08:37:45 pm
Mary only has one album that is anywhere near the level of L Boogie and it took her years to do her most recent work where she is vocally there.  Her voice has fallen flat consistently even in the studio...she often has sang off key even in a recording studio and 70% of her material has been a remake of someone else's song...check it out even back to her very first album...she is the queen of remakes...not soul. 

L Boogie beats her hands down even with only 3+ albums out and a string of solid concert performances. She has more diverse talent and a better voice!  She does not need anyone to produce her songs...she does it herself...seemlessly.
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Magic Wand on December 01, 2006, 09:07:11 pm

L Boogie beats her hands down even with only 3+ albums out and a string of solid concert performances. She has more diverse talent and a better voice!  She does not need anyone to produce her songs...she does it herself...seamlessly.

I agree with Stan.
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Jenn on December 01, 2006, 11:22:42 pm
NO choice. Lauryn is a fraud who cracked under pressure. Mary's been in the game for as long as I can remember.
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: stanleyballard on December 02, 2006, 11:41:12 am
Untrue...would a fraud be a mother to her children and put them before her career?  L Boogie has devoted time to getting her priorities in order and didn't have to lose herself in drugs to do it....she may not be perfect but she has been a true artist willing to take a chance and sometimes you don't end up getting all the props.  Mary J plays things much closer to the chest and has cracked (literally)....her sister saved her from drug abuse and her husband also helped to ground her more.

L Boogie also has done some acting before joining The Fugees...another diverse effort.
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on December 02, 2006, 05:42:19 pm
Yeah, I was just grooving to that new L. Boogie joint...  ::)
(Forgot the smiley)
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Toya on December 03, 2006, 06:07:41 pm
Lauryn Hill.
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Wise Son on December 04, 2006, 04:15:53 am
Lauryn.
'Why you imitatin' Al Capone?/I be Nina Simone/An' defecatin' on your microphone.'
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Toya on December 04, 2006, 05:12:31 am
Lauryn.
'Why you imitatin' Al Capone?/I be Nina Simone/An' defecatin' on your microphone.'

She is one classy lady.
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Curtis Metcalf on December 04, 2006, 08:48:02 am
Both have sold a ton of records during the hip hop era....both are respected within the hip hop world...both have been around for more than 10 years....my vote goes to L Boogie 'cause she is the best at what she does... her vocals are constantly at a higher level (better live shows), she is versatile with her ability to sing and rap without breaking a sweat and she can write and produce her own songs with great skill.  Now if she can get over her personal drama and return to being a true artist it would be all good.

BTW, the fact that she is fine as wine has nothing to do with my vote....LOL

L Boogie all the way!
Mary only has one album that is anywhere near the level of L Boogie and it took her years to do her most recent work where she is vocally there.  Her voice has fallen flat consistently even in the studio...she often has sang off key even in a recording studio and 70% of her material has been a remake of someone else's song...check it out even back to her very first album...she is the queen of remakes...not soul. 

L Boogie beats her hands down even with only 3+ albums out and a string of solid concert performances. She has more diverse talent and a better voice!  She does not need anyone to produce her songs...she does it herself...seemlessly.
Untrue...would a fraud be a mother to her children and put them before her career?  L Boogie has devoted time to getting her priorities in order and didn't have to lose herself in drugs to do it....she may not be perfect but she has been a true artist willing to take a chance and sometimes you don't end up getting all the props.  Mary J plays things much closer to the chest and has cracked (literally)....her sister saved her from drug abuse and her husband also helped to ground her more.

L Boogie also has done some acting before joining The Fugees...another diverse effort.
So Stanley, do you plan to argue with everybody who answers Mary J to your Hard Choice?  Might tend to skew the results.  ;)
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: karaszero on December 05, 2006, 01:49:46 pm
I hope not Stan but for real Lauren Hill is a Nut Job! The long awaited fugees reunion was sidetracked due to Lauren being a lunchbox! What about that ridiculous unplugged album a few years ago? didn't that go concrete? Don't get me wrong I like Lauren I bought the first album but it seems like she began to become distracted/diconnected after the first album garnered critical acclaim. She is too young in the music/movie business to be a diva...is she talented? No Question! is she a bag of Drama? it appears so
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Marvelous on December 19, 2006, 03:50:25 am
This is a hard one, since I just listened to MJB's "Im goin down".
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Mastrmynd on December 23, 2006, 08:43:12 am
Toya, have you ever heard Nina Simone's Microfone Defication?  Just wondering.  And Nina Simone has a voice only a mother could love, but darnit if she doesn't make it work for her.

anyway, at this point their careers, neither women can sing.  MJB can't sing live. nuff said.  And ... Miss Hill, her pain ate away at her voice...so now she can't sing live either.... it hurts to hear her sing now.

but if we are goin' ol' skool, then I'm choosin' Lauryn 'cuz i've been in luv with her since Fugee-la: Tranzlator crew.
nuff said!
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: JAXN on January 24, 2007, 09:51:06 am
in what aspect are you comparing them? while Lauryn is a better singer, producer, writer and better looking, she really can't compare with Mary's body of work..did someone say that Mary only has 1 album that's about something? that's kind of a ridiculous statement when Mary has let out classic(s) plural..
What's the 411?
Mary's Joint
Share My World
Mary J Blige with the Lauryn Hill produced song
Family Affair


She's only had 1 maybe 2 mediocre cds and she can't sing....L's first cd was a classic, but that's about it..her second cd wasn't anywhere close to being classic and then she went nuts and disappeared..or whatever happened to her.
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Hypestyle on July 11, 2017, 01:33:03 pm
Lauryn is going on tour with Nas later this summer.  I may try and check it out.  But Lauryn has a reputation for being, well, really late, plus there's the "is she going to sing, or talk half the time?" knock...
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on July 11, 2017, 02:12:22 pm
Lauryn at her peak was a brilliant artist who could have had it all.  But she thew it all away.  Tragic.  Even if she had the output of D'Angelo, this would be more of a fair fight.  D's product flow is spare, but boy when he drops something it's strong! And he's got music released in this century.

Meanwhile, Mary consistently beats the odds and has assembled a great body of work.  My Mary playlist is quite long. 

Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Hypestyle on July 12, 2017, 01:07:51 pm
Is Strength of a Woman worth picking up?  What are the top 3 songs?
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on August 20, 2017, 10:04:53 am
Lauryn at her peak was a brilliant artist who could have had it all.  But she thew it all away.  Tragic.  Even if she had the output of D'Angelo, this would be more of a fair fight.  D's product flow is spare, but boy when he drops something it's strong! And he's got music released in this century.

Meanwhile, Mary consistently beats the odds and has assembled a great body of work.  My Mary playlist is quite long.

What did Lauryn throw away exactly?

She chose Motherhood over her career and principle over commerce.

You really think Lauryn Hill couldn't have put out a series of half-baked albums playing on her gravitas and cashed in?
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Hypestyle on August 21, 2017, 06:17:45 am
I'd like to see from Mary and Lauryn:

A series of covers albums (like rod Stewart and Barry Manilow have done), they can be themed- Pop, Rock and R&B of the 60s, 70s 80s, 90s-- I'm especially intrigued to see what could be done with an 80s-themed set.

A gospel album
A jazz standards album
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Mastrmynd on August 22, 2017, 11:51:48 am
Lauryn is going on tour with Nas later this summer.  I may try and check it out.  But Lauryn has a reputation for being, well, really late, plus there's the "is she going to sing, or talk half the time?" knock...

She's notorious for showing up super hella hella late...and then giving a so so performance.
Hopefully with her opening for Nas, she won't do that anymore.
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Lion on September 04, 2017, 05:23:08 pm
Mary J.

Sure... Lauryn has her beat hands-down in talent and range, but I'm not digging or rewarding her chronic lateness regardless of the excuses. If you can't or won't do your job, get into another line of work.
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on September 11, 2017, 01:57:56 pm
Lauryn at her peak was a brilliant artist who could have had it all.  But she thew it all away.  Tragic.  Even if she had the output of D'Angelo, this would be more of a fair fight.  D's product flow is spare, but boy when he drops something it's strong! And he's got music released in this century.

Meanwhile, Mary consistently beats the odds and has assembled a great body of work.  My Mary playlist is quite long.

What did Lauryn throw away exactly?

She chose Motherhood over her career and principle over commerce.

You really think Lauryn Hill couldn't have put out a series of half-baked albums playing on her gravitas and cashed in?
So you can't be a mother and a professional?  You can't be a mother and a great artist?
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on January 20, 2018, 06:35:02 pm
Lauryn at her peak was a brilliant artist who could have had it all.  But she thew it all away.  Tragic.  Even if she had the output of D'Angelo, this would be more of a fair fight.  D's product flow is spare, but boy when he drops something it's strong! And he's got music released in this century.

Meanwhile, Mary consistently beats the odds and has assembled a great body of work.  My Mary playlist is quite long.

What did Lauryn throw away exactly?

She chose Motherhood over her career and principle over commerce.

You really think Lauryn Hill couldn't have put out a series of half-baked albums playing on her gravitas and cashed in?
So you can't be a mother and a professional?  You can't be a mother and a great artist?

From the way she has spoken about it they ALWAYS wanted Lauryn to elevate her career over her family. To the point they suggested she ABORT her first child. I think that sentiment alone speaks to the environment she was functioning in.

Can you be a "GREAT" mother and a great artist? I've never heard or seen it to be honest. You could have a channel full of biopics and TV specials that would attest to this.
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Hypestyle on January 21, 2018, 04:07:09 am
I want to see a Fugees reunion tour this summer.
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Reginald Hudlin on January 21, 2018, 07:03:52 am
Lauryn at her peak was a brilliant artist who could have had it all.  But she thew it all away.  Tragic.  Even if she had the output of D'Angelo, this would be more of a fair fight.  D's product flow is spare, but boy when he drops something it's strong! And he's got music released in this century.

Meanwhile, Mary consistently beats the odds and has assembled a great body of work.  My Mary playlist is quite long.

What did Lauryn throw away exactly?

She chose Motherhood over her career and principle over commerce.

You really think Lauryn Hill couldn't have put out a series of half-baked albums playing on her gravitas and cashed in?
So you can't be a mother and a professional?  You can't be a mother and a great artist?

From the way she has spoken about it they ALWAYS wanted Lauryn to elevate her career over her family. To the point they suggested she ABORT her first child. I think that sentiment alone speaks to the environment she was functioning in.

Can you be a "GREAT" mother and a great artist? I've never heard or seen it to be honest. You could have a channel full of biopics and TV specials that would attest to this.
Diana Ross is both.  I've met several of her kids, and I was impressed by how well balanced they were.

I think there are many, many successful working moms.  My mother was one. 

If she wanted to focus on being a mom that's a fine choice, my wife did the same, but that was not her only option. 
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: jefferson L.O.B. sergeant on January 22, 2018, 02:55:05 pm
Lauryn at her peak was a brilliant artist who could have had it all.  But she thew it all away.  Tragic.  Even if she had the output of D'Angelo, this would be more of a fair fight.  D's product flow is spare, but boy when he drops something it's strong! And he's got music released in this century.

Meanwhile, Mary consistently beats the odds and has assembled a great body of work.  My Mary playlist is quite long.

What did Lauryn throw away exactly?

She chose Motherhood over her career and principle over commerce.

You really think Lauryn Hill couldn't have put out a series of half-baked albums playing on her gravitas and cashed in?
So you can't be a mother and a professional?  You can't be a mother and a great artist?

From the way she has spoken about it they ALWAYS wanted Lauryn to elevate her career over her family. To the point they suggested she ABORT her first child. I think that sentiment alone speaks to the environment she was functioning in.

Can you be a "GREAT" mother and a great artist? I've never heard or seen it to be honest. You could have a channel full of biopics and TV specials that would attest to this.
Diana Ross is both.  I've met several of her kids, and I was impressed by how well balanced they were.

I think there are many, many successful working moms.  My mother was one. 

If she wanted to focus on being a mom that's a fine choice, my wife did the same, but that was not her only option.

Diana is a TERRIBLE choice!

Unlike your buddy Nelson George I will uphold the standard of the Motown artists being paragons of virtue that only ate, slept, practiced and performed! 8)
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: stanleyballard on February 07, 2019, 04:25:27 pm
Agreed.  Worked for Lauryn Hill several years ago here in NYC metro (NJ side) and she was a class act so I stand by my choice from years ago!  Mary J Blige needs some singing lessons - she has improved and doesn't go off key as much but still.....

Lauryn refused to sell her soul like so many Black artists have done since this post was created- Whitney, Michael, Prince and more!
Title: Re: Hard Choices: Lauryn Hill v Mary J Blige
Post by: Hypestyle on February 07, 2019, 06:12:10 pm
why is it that a goofy, occasionally drug-dabbling eccentric in Katt Williams and a chronically late chick in Lauryn get to be the only people worldwide to "escape" the Illuminati somehow?

And why are the Illuminati monomaniacally focused on rap/R&B singers? Where's the YouTube videos focusing on country-western singers or folks like Barry Manilow and Michael Bolton?