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BET Life / Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« on: January 21, 2008, 10:11:23 am »
Ok what has any of this has to do with BET coverage of Obama's presidential run? Some of yall really do come off as crazy sometimes. I mean is it really that deep?

God's Word is applicable to all things including TV programming and presidential elections.


BET Life / Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« on: January 21, 2008, 10:10:29 am »
Sharpton has come under tremendous scrutiny for his critique or Rap and other aspects of Black pop-culture. The difference is that besides the instances of opportunism there is almost 2 decades of substantive civil rights activities here in NYC to lend credibility to his stance.

That's a weak argument.  Martin Luther King is still taken more seriously than Sharpton despite the former lacking 20 years of civil rights activism.

So, Rev. Coates' protesting the immorality promoted by BET should not be dismissed because he's younger than Sharpton.  King was younger than Coates when he also exhorted Black America to confront the immorality in our community instead of ignoring or embracing it.  Read this sermon that King gave back in 1957:

It's Sunday, so I am not allowed to respond to this in an appropriate manner. 8)

Actually, God holds you accountable for everything you say 365 days per year.

"But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."

Matthew 12:36,37


BET Life / Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« on: January 21, 2008, 09:47:32 am »
That would be God.

Bullsh*t. Unless he's having conversations with burning bushes. Even then, Coates should tell us what was said.

You can learn that by simply checking out the Bible whether in print, on audio, or on the Internet:

This is same Bible that says the following are worthy of God's wrath:


"For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."

1 Timothy 6:10


"You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."

Exodus 20:17


"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

Matthew 5:27-28

"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

1 Corithians 6:9-10

Premarital Sex

"Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body."

1 Corithians 6:18


"You shall not murder."

Exodus 20:13

"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.' But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment."

Matthew 5:21-22

These sins are glorified in many of the music videos and even reality TV shows aired on BET.  So, Rev. Coates is calling the network's output for the evil it is.  This is really to benefit BET's bigwigs who will have to face God for their sins unless they repent and receive salvation.

So, in terms of eternal destination, the onus is now on BET.  Rev. Coates has done his job by his warnings through protests.


BET Life / Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« on: January 19, 2008, 05:39:38 pm »
Look at the individuals spearheading the anti-BET campaigns and you can figure out why an ad campaign would be completely worthless. These are individuals who are seeking self-promotion and in this climate attacking BET along with Rap and almost any other aspect of Black pop-culture is a sure ticket to getting your 15 minutes.

I find it amusing that no one complains how has spent years Rev. Al Sharpton complaining about negative Black images.

Just saying.

Someone last year posted something very insightful but I didn't want to accept it and give in to my cynical impulses. What the poster asked was how could Coates, Tina and others get this level of press coverage with no scrutiny attached. He suggested it was calculated but I summed it up to cheap/lazy journalism, now I am not so sure.

To be fair, no one's looked in Reggie or Debra's closets either. 

What's good for the goose...

As to Coates, wouldn't it be appropriate to ask just what depictions fit his criteria of Gangsta, Pimp and criminals? Who would be the arbitor of this standard besides Coates?

That would be God.


BET Life / Re: Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« on: January 19, 2008, 05:32:45 pm »
It’s a shame that Mr. Milloy chose to exploit the passing of Ms. Tang as an excuse to bash BET.  I never met her, but her passing was a tragedy deeply felt by long time employees of BET who knew her. 

Actually, Mr. Milloy liked BET before it was sold off to Viacom if you check it early commentaries.  So, clearly, he doesn't like your direction.  Hence, it's not BET bashing as Hudlin BET bashing.  That's made abundantly clear in his column. 

While Mr. Milloy complains that BET is not covering the election, BET News ran exclusive half hour interviews with Barack Obama last week and Hillary Clinton this week. The Obama story was followed by a half hour news special on the crisis in the Sudan and the Hillary interview was followed by a special on the tension between Black and Latino communities in Los Angeles.

BET News employs more black journalists than any other news organization in America.  That means more black journalists than the Washington Post, New York Times or CNN

And yet the Washington Post dared to ask questions like "Will White people really vote for Obama?":

Or "Will Hillary play the race card to win the White House?":
That's the whole point of Milloy's criticism.  News specials are fine, but they don't lead to the hard questions that result from serious news analysis.  So, questions like "Did Obama lose New Hampshire due to White voter duplicity?" can easily fly under the radar.


BET Life / Obama's Run: Where is The Black TV News?
« on: January 17, 2008, 06:32:08 pm »
Washington Post's Courtland Milloy wrote a great column exploring the irony of BET killing its news division just before Obama's run for the White House:


BET Life / Re: Damn, Reggie, why do you hate Black people SO DAMN MUCH!!!??
« on: November 24, 2007, 02:19:06 pm »
I thought she was a funny little bird until I read the blogs of her supporters. First, I'm amazed that these little bible thumpers would befriend a boy like Black Sea Goat. He is gay. These people hate gay people, but then again these are lonely women. VERY lonely women. They probably think they can convert him. Good luck, girls!

Actually, Christians don't hate gay people, but we will be honest about their lifestyle being sinful just as God is.  Anyone "Christian" who says stuff like "I hate gay people" or "God hates gay people" is more in league with Satan than Jesus.

So, the Christians at WAOD are being true to their name by respecting BlackSeaGoat and his protests against black-on-black violence even if their disagree with his lifestyle.

Then you have the lovely Kitty Glendower, another WAOD supporter. She embodies the reason why there is such a thing as Post Feminism. It's funny, but here you have a 'feminist' who isn't living independently of a man (wanna bet who makes most of the money in that house hold?) and she's describing her husband as "'Mr.' Glendower this" and Mr. Glendower that.." what a hypocrit and loser.

There aren't feminists who are married?

Finally Gina, you wanna bet this woman is on somebody's payroll? I (unlike Gina) can actually say I have no proof to my claims, but anybody who constantly draws connections to the worse music out there to the horrific things that are happening to women without numbers, stats and the like, and then is in turn gven the attention that she's getting has to be an insider of some kind or at least is connected to an insider who is on some crusade to get rid of the black faces in high places in Viacom. Fine, if BET went away, we'll see if she has the spine to continue her hand wringing and cheap Sista Soulja routine. You know she won't - white guys would have to be her target - that ain't happening.

Ja Ja!

Or perhaps Gina gets support because she's a outlet for Black people who are frustrated with "leaders" who rail against White racism (good move), but remain silent about Black-on-Black violence (evil move).  This frustration is deepened by the fact that past civil right leaders like Dr. King had no fear of criticizing enemies within the Black community as well as without:


BET Life / Re: Damn, Reggie, why do you hate Black people SO DAMN MUCH!!!??
« on: November 21, 2007, 06:46:46 pm »
Oh, lord. Now she's going to think she's a real writer and we'll never be rid of her. Then again, she does bring the lulz in ways unparalleled...

To be fair, mainstream periodicals ranging from Ebony to USA Today have at least referred to Gina's blog in feature articles.  This has further increased her name recognition and thus helped changed how Black bloggers are viewed in terms of influence.

Hence, love her or hate her, Gina McCauley has had an impact on Black America.  So, it would be odd if Essence didn't have her on the Top 25 list.

Besides, there would be no list at all if you excluded those Black celebrities with critics.  Everyone has their fans and detractors.


Other Comics / Re: The Return of Brotherman Comics!
« on: November 15, 2007, 03:30:59 pm »
Brotherman is back?



Latest Flicks / Re: Two More Films From Tyler Perry
« on: November 15, 2007, 03:28:01 pm »
I read about Madea Goes to Jail in Entertainment Weekly, but didn't know about "Family."  Clearly, Perry isn't resting on his laurels after the success of "Why Did I Get Married?"  At the rate he's cranking out films, Perry will have more than enough material for his TV network.

Perry will be ruling Tinseltown before we know it.


Vox Populi / Re: Good News for Black People
« on: November 13, 2007, 04:10:41 pm »
Great news that black and white people will ignore.  Why does black success serve no ones agenda?

Actually, all the Black people I e-mailed this column to were impressed by the good news and in turn passed it on. 

But your point it taken:  Black people doing well is horrifying to White and Black people who profit from the "helpless Blacks" image in the media.

On a related note, The Washington Post published an article on the mass media's impact on race relations.  This is an excerpt is relevant to your question:

Black people, as a group, are still beset by intractable problems, says Shelby Steele, who is black. He is author of "White Guilt: How Blacks and Whites Together Destroyed the Promise of the Civil Rights Era."

Steele lists poverty, single-parent families, high school dropout rates. "But what do we do? Talk about Don Imus and Michael Richards and do nothing to explore the 70 percent illegitimacy rate." Yet, when it comes to race relations, he says, the country has made remarkable progress.

"White America has undergone a marvelous if unremarked moral evolution in the last 40 years and racism is no longer the barrier that it used to be," says Steele, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University. "That doesn't mean it no longer exists, that it is no longer present. But it no longer stunts the life of black people.

"We have come to the point where we can entertain ourselves with it," he says, adding sarcastically, "Isn't that wonderful?"


Vox Populi / Good News for Black People
« on: November 11, 2007, 08:29:57 pm »
In his latest column, Courtland Milloy (The Washington Post) revealed some statistics about Black people that hasn't gotten much coverage.  An excerpt:

Among blacks 25 and older, 80 percent had at least a high school diploma in 2005, and about 1.1 million had advanced degrees, up from 677,000 in 1995. There were 2.3 million black college students in the fall of 2004, more than double the number in 1989. In 2005, there were 44,000 black physicians and surgeons, 79,400 postsecondary teachers, 45,200 lawyers and 49,300 chief executives. There were 1.2 million black-owned businesses in 2002, up 45 percent since 1997. Annual revenue: $88.6 billion.

Turns out black people can read, write and count after all. Some actually get married, raise a family, keep a job and stay out of jail.

Does that mean life for black Americans is just one big jack-o'-lantern full of Hershey's Kisses? Of course not. Poverty, racism, crime and disease continue to have a devastating effect on black Americans.

But with the decline in teen pregnancy, black America is gearing up to overcome those obstacles.

Read the full column here:

Hence, there is hope for Black people.  So, those who say we must yield to various stereotypes (being a thug, out of wedlock births, etc.) are ignorant of this positive change.

Miracles do happen.


In The News / Re: Is Bill Cosby right?
« on: November 08, 2007, 02:27:06 pm »
Since Larry King's Interview with Bill Cosby was repeated recently, I thought this commentary by Cosby Show actor Joseph Phillips was appropriate:

This excerpt really struck me:

"High rates of out of wedlock births and the decline in marriage are real and provide a negative drag on our success - on our American success. Oddly enough, those most strident in their criticism are the very same folks -- ideologically speaking -- largely to blame for the current state of affairs. It was progressives and new liberals that in the late 1960's and early 70's proclaimed American cultural institutions and mores rife with the stain of racism thus rendering them illegitimate. The counter culture revolution would not simply eradicate oppression but would dismantle all of American culture as well, rebuilding it from the ground up. Gone went traditional notions of sexual propriety. Gone went the idea of gender roles and traditional ideals of marriage and family. Gone also went the faith in man's capacity to rule himself. Black authenticity was now defined by a cultural revolutionary defiance. Alas, the baby truly went out the window with the bath water. The progressive mantra has changed very little over time. When individual behavior is criticized, they respond that the real culprit is white racism manifested in the entire American system. Deconstruction remains the call. What remains unclear is how the white racist power structure prevents one from engaging in responsible sexual and cultural behavior. George Bush and Dick Cheney haven't a thing to do with a man honoring his woman with marriage, raising his children from within the home or parents insisting on academic excellence. Progressives would have us believe that men are powerless without experts trained in our finest universities working with government to deliver us from the evil of individualism. Cosby is the latest in a long line of folks that have maintained that our current trials are not due to systemic racism, but a culture that makes excuses for irresponsible behavior, thus absolving individuals from any culpability for their circumstances, and subsequently draining them of any power to change their lives."

And more: "This is the inherent strength of Cosby's message and the weakness of those that would shout him down. Cosby is saying to people - the very people progressives claim to be protecting - that they have power, that the changes they seek begin with the choices they make. Indeed, Cosby points out that it is adherence to the traditional mores of family, faith and idealism that made us strong, that provided the soldiers of character and conscience that fought and won the civil rights battles of the 50's and 60's. Moreover, these same values will provide the moral and cultural foundation for the warriors of the next generation."


Latest Flicks / Re: Tyler Perry’s latest is #1
« on: October 30, 2007, 04:31:12 pm »
You're right, Perry's work isnt my cup of tea.  I dont have a problem with people liking and supporting the Brother.  Hell he got my $8 last week, but let's be honest about what he does.  Tyler Perry is not above criticism.  It aint even about the race card, Brother.  It actually does true cinematic pioneers who actually had to struggle with cinematic racial issues a disservice

But if you don't like Perry's films, then why support them?  It's as silly as a comic fan complaining how "horrible" Reggie's Black Panther is while continuing to buy the comic.  Make a clean break, and move on with your life.   

My philosophy in all entertainment (movies, films, etc.)  is simple:  support what you really enjoy, ignore what you don't.  You avoiding wasting time and money that way.


Latest Flicks / Re: Tyler Perry’s latest is #1
« on: October 29, 2007, 07:43:48 pm »
See, not one word about how ridiculous it is for a man (Mike) to bring his mistress (Trina, who White conveniently ignored) on a retreat with his wife and three of her best friends.  Not only does Mike invite the mistress, who also happens to be Sheila's friend, to the retreat, he sits next to her on the plane and sits idly by while Sheila gets thrown off for being too fat.  Exactly who does dumb sh*t like that?  It's massive suspensions of disbelief like this that causes critics to rip into Perry.  All that race/class bullsh*t that White is talking about is just his way of apologizing for Perry's creative shortcomings.

I've heard stranger stories in real life.

This retreat—Waiting to Exhale meets The Big Chill—lets Perry simultaneously show off black social progress, class diversity and sex roles. The ensemble fireworks are predictable but also entertaining. It’s alarming that American film critics alienate themselves from the aspects of Perry’s films that should be universal. He’s the most popular example of the modern romantic comedy genre that critics also dismissed in the wily and sexy amusements Two Can Play That Game, Breaking All the Rules and The Brothers.

Ok, whatever credibility White may have had just dried up and crumbled to ash.  Of all the black rom-com's for him to list, he lists three of the worst to come out of mainstream black cinema in the last decade!  :D

I liked The Brothers myself.

In Married?, one of Perry’s repeated code phrases for the eternal war between men and women is “She’s cooking grits.” Yet film critics, who might even consider themselves knowledgeable about the art and life of singer Al Green (infamously, a grits-victim during a marital spat), don’t respond to the reference. Perry’s critical beat-down isn’t an issue of knowledge—or taste—so much as cultural preference. The four couples in Married? represent universal marital conflicts (incidentally, the kind Chris Rock trivialized in I Think I Love My Wife). From issues of trust, infidelity, career envy and classic chauvinism, these are basic male/female truths, unlike Knocked Up whose crass jokes are lies that the white middle-class tells itself.

Does he know for a fact that white critics didnt respond to the grits bit?  And if they didnt, so what?  I didnt get a lot of the bits in 40 Year Old Virgin, but I still mostly enjoyed it.  It's funny that White accuses Chris Rock of trivializing marital conflict but ignores Perry trivializing things like character development, shading, etc.

I can't help but reflect on Entertainment Weekly's interview with Angela Bassett.  When asked about the acclaimed Hustle & Flow, she responded that just because a film has "artistic merit" doesn't mean it can indulge in racist stereotypes.

Similarly, just because Perry's films lack "merit" by Hollywood standards doesn't mean he isn't subverting stereotypes.  Like "Marriage is a White thing" or "All rich Black folk are rappers, athletes or crooks."

Perry’s women show forbearance and hope, reflecting specific cultural precepts: throughout Married? gospel music emerges from car radios. But this might also alienate most film critics, even those who praised Jennifer Hudson’s pseudo-gospel ranting in Dreamgirls. They miss out on the beauty of Sheila’s marriage testimony—a speech where Jill Scott nearly sings her faith, which then sets up Patricia’s climactic pledge: “The greatest achievement for any human being is to love God, yourself and others.” George Clooney wouldn’t dare.

Or could it be that some critics just find this sort of religious pandering heavy handed and trite?  Nahh, it must be the race thing.  George Clooney?  What does he...ohh never mind.

Not really.  Hollywood is as anti-Christian as it is racist and sexist. In his hilarious Oscar monologue,  Chris Rock wondered how did the comic book flick Hellboy get a swift greenlight, but most in Tinseltown thought Passion of the Christ would be a tough sell. (Note:  there are lots of Christians in America.) 

So, film critics dissing a film for the slightest reference to God or Jesus Christ doesn't shock me.

Of course, this may answer my earlier question on why Black filmmakers are reluctant to bring up faith in God in their films.

But Perry dares—and wins—as an artist mindful of an audience whose problems and wishes are underserved. Married? isn’t an Oprah sermon; much of its humor and punch comes from Perry’s expose of domestic secrets. This happens to be the basis of R. Kelly’s extraordinary music-video opera, Trapped in the Closet—a work of true genius that the media has also underrated and ridiculed. The media mocks R. Kelly’s vernacular (calling it “crazy” is the easiest way to avoid its daring and brilliance) just as Perry’s comedy and Eddie Murphy’s in Norbit are disdained as unsophisticated or vulgar. (Though what could be less sophisticated or more vulgar than the R&B-grooving nerds in Superbad?)

OK, Zeraze, tell me he didn't just give the child molestor props for that wack ass Trapped in the Closet sh*t?  Genius?  Daring?  Brilliant?  Really?
I'm kinda mad at you for posting this now. >:(   ;D

Woodly Allen is also still considered a film genius despite being a pedophile. 

I'm just saying.

It’s too bad that Tyler Perry’s quest for Hollywood fame leaves out the musical epiphanies of his stage shows. How odd to cast Jill Scott and Janet Jackson (looking pained) and not have them sing. Cultural pressure might be denying us a greater form of pop entertainment. It’s as if Perry was trying to prove something not worth proving—especially after Dreamgirls’ big mama and sexpot stereotypes. But Scott’s church-girl monologue is so radiant he might be radically right. It’s equally radical to see a movie full of good-looking black men who aren’t stereotype criminals. Besides, Denzel will take us back to modern slavery next month.[/i]

And now he condemns Denzel?  Where a paragraph ago he praised R. Kelly?!?!?!?  Oh sh*t!  I feel like Riley in a Boondocks episode!   :D

Actually, there were a lot of Black people who weren't happy that Denzel won the Oscar for Training Day because he played a criminal.  The thug is a role too many Black actors have had to play to "make it" in Hollywood. 

So, White raises a fair question on whether Denzel is glorifying a stereotype.  Even on HEF this has been brought up.


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