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Black Panther / Re: NEW BLACK PANTHER COMIC BOOK - Ridley's Believe it or Not! BP #7 Preview!
« on: July 04, 2022, 10:32:07 am »
Quote from: Emperorjones on July 03, 2022, 04:14:34 am
It's hard for me to think of any other comic book headlining character where it seems the steady goal to is to make their books about anyone but them, outside of Black Panther. Why is it so "hard" to focus on T'Challa, build him up, give him an interesting journey that affects and changes him (for the positive), that allows him to affect the world (in generally positive ways)?

I don't see a steady drumbeat of deconstruction, of being labeled the fault and blame all the time-for any other headlining character. Certainly, there have been challenges, great failures, mistakes, tragedies, and moments for character growth, but it seems like with other books the focus is still kept on their headliners and reinforcing how necessary their headliners are in the books that bear their names.

I totally feel you EJ! Fact is Marvel don’t give a ish about what T’Challa fans want. Haven’t for years and I believe that the middling sales of the title is a direct result.

Peace,

Mont

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Black Panther / Re: BLACK PANTHER MOVIES - BP2 Wakanda Forever... We got some pics...Whoa!
« on: July 04, 2022, 10:03:57 am »
Could have been a great MCU homage to Marvel Team-Up with T’Challa and Namor duking it out until recognizing their true enemy (Attuma?) and joining forces to defeat him/them. This would have been a great way to introduce Namor and Atlantis to the MCU while solidifying BP and Wakanda as a unifying MCU element.

The path they’re taking is disrespectful to the character T’Challa and takes for granted paying fans expected to put out $12 to $15 bucks to watch their self-serving, wanton disregard for what Chadwick painstakingly brought to life in the MCU. Creating art is challenging, often personal and sometimes painful. Assuming the proper level of respect for the iconic character T’Challa and his historical, cultural impact, Feige and Coogler had the responsibility to choose the most appropriate talent to succeed Chadwick and direct the performance of he and the cast in such a way that overcame their challenges, honored Chadwick and respected the fans expected to pay for tickets to see BP2WF. The professional cast and crew will be paid up front whether the movie succeeds or fails. After all, the show must go on, art is for the audience, right?

The path they chose is less artful and ironically belies the courage, strength and perseverance of the very people they seek to portray. Perhaps this is why Martin Freeman found the whole thing weird? Willfully eliminating T’Challa with so much weight and story yet to apply, makes no sense.

No peace,

Mont

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Black Panther / Re: BLACK PANTHER MOVIES - BP2 Wakanda Forever... PLOT LEAKED!!!
« on: June 19, 2022, 10:38:50 am »
I can see how Johnny come lately “fans” might buy into this mess replacing T’Chaka with T’Challa in BP mythology all due to the misguided notion of honoring T’Challa in this way. Think though, how the hell would a merely competent superhero with his resources, who saw his father killed allow his son and heir to ever be in danger!?! I’m out.

No peace,

Mont

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Black Panther / Re: NEW BLACK PANTHER COMIC BOOK - Ridley's Believe it or Not! BP #6 Preview
« on: June 01, 2022, 05:57:41 pm »
Quote from: CvilleWakandan on June 01, 2022, 02:37:28 pm
I sent this to Marvel's feedback email

Dear Mr Ridley and Marvel Editors,

I read Black Panther #6. While the issue wasn't bad I feel like this was a missed opportunity to show off Tchallas' skills. I feel like there could have been a chess match between Akili and Tchalla with Tchalla outmaneuvering and incapacitating the Hatute over several days as he is a strategic genius. Also, given Tchallas' nature, shouldn't he have a few bunkers of backup equipment positioned around Wakanda? Just a basic Vibranium suit and energy daggers would have been more than enough. And after Doomwar, where food was laced with trackers, I don't see how even Shuri would be able to put one in him. His paranoia after that wouldn't allow it.

Also we need a full issue of Tchalla and Jhai because the relationship doesn't feel real as a newly introduced best friend.

Finally I feel that there are some dialogue problems with Tchalla. Not in the main story, but it seems you're trying to make him more quippy, but its falling short as he is a more stoic character. Also why are the Hatute chanting 'Kill Tchalla' continually? Are they supposed to be robots?

Thank You for your time.

Okay to print

Very well put! Ridley’s story thus far would be impressive if he were writing Eddie Murray’s Prince Akeem Joffer, but this is not T’Challa. Instead, he is writing the diminished, dumbed down T’Challa Marvel seems to be intent on peddling as a more palatable Black hero who doesn’t quite rise to the level of a Tony Stark, Reed Richards or Steve Rogers. No evidence of his enhanced speed, strength, senses or naturally superior strategic genius. These are elements of this character that should be on display, incorporated in every story. Why would anyone not employ such gifts in such a circumstance? And to sell real fans on the possibility that anyone could outflank T’Challa on Wakandan terrain is insulting, lazy storytelling. T’Challa would not have made his escape without knowing exactly what was coming and how to counter it. I know this is harder to write but T’Challa’s traits have been well established. We deserve better.

Peace,

Mont

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Black Panther / Re: FEAR OF A BLACK PANTHER - Black History of the Black Panther - Redjack Speaks!
« on: May 31, 2022, 06:49:42 pm »
Hear, hear! Excellent analysis, 100 percent on the beam!

As a society, the more we lean into gritty hyper realism and forsake imaginative, aspirational, sometimes “corny” or “sappy” storytelling, the more our innocence wanes, the harder it becomes for us to dream of let alone believe in heroes.

Redjack is right on the money! Thanks for sharing brother Ture!

Peace,

Mont

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Black Panther / Re: BP710: THE PROTOCOLS - REQUIEM IMMATURA -Sam Cap steals White Wolf in new comic
« on: May 31, 2022, 06:25:02 pm »
Quote from: CvilleWakandan on May 19, 2022, 11:52:40 am
I thought it was a good issue. I didn't see any American vs African blacks. All Sam said was Wakanda isn't perfect, but if comparing social issues and as long as Coates is ignored, it is a social paradise. But even a black American would face some xenophobia in the beginning and live through an invasion or two.

I do think Sam taking on the responsibility of alleviating black social conditions himself is crazy.

The number one friend chicken in the country is Willie Mae's Scotch House.

This is very much denigrating to Wakanda, Black Panther and what T’Challa had worked to build in the MCU and in print pre-Coates. That is not to say it wouldn’t happen this way or is unrealistic. But why not use the medium and artistic license to inspire, uplift in a way that doesn’t fall back on the predictable? You might surmise that is the intention, where they are going, but we have been continually let down so it is hard to see anything more than the continued deconstruction the CJP predicted for T’Challa and Wakanda more than two decades ago.

Peace,

Mont

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Black Panther / Re: BP710: THE PROTOCOLS
« on: April 18, 2022, 01:47:21 pm »
My advice to John Ridley…

Wakanda’s foray into democracy should fail, not because democracy is bad, but because Marvel should resist the urge to try to force their properties to conform to Western, post-colonial political realities. Wakanda’s meritocracy, as originally constructed, with a Bast blessed, noble and supremely competent monarch who is spiritually committed to the well-being of his people has largely worked for them and their development as a technologically unique and spiritual society. Wakanda is yin to Latveria’s yang and the stories stemming from T’Challa led Wakanda, in contrast to 616 at-large, are far from exhausted.

My Two Cents.

Peace,

Mont

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Black Panther / Re: NEW BLACK PANTHER COMIC BOOK - Ridley's Believe it or Not! NEW BP #5
« on: April 16, 2022, 07:40:48 am »
Knee jerk reaction was more frustration with the tearing down of T’Challa and, not inconsequentially, Wakanda’s lack of faith in him. However, Ridley has an opportunity here and I am intrigued by the primary focus of the book now being squarely on T’Challa, especially given the MCU’s misguided intention to discard his character.

Here’s to redemption, even if only in print.

Hopefully,

Mont

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Black Panther / Re: BP710: THE PROTOCOLS
« on: April 13, 2022, 07:17:33 pm »
Quote from: Ezyo on April 13, 2022, 06:30:42 am
Meh, without T'Challa, I don't really care anymore

I feel this! Marvel needs to do two things before I’d give 1 eff about BP2 and MCU Wakanda;

     1. reveal T’Challa will not be killed (yet again) even if not making an appearance in BP2
     2. #RecastTChalla

My Two Cents.

Peace,

Mont

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Black Panther / Re: NEW BLACK PANTHER COMIC BOOK - Ridley's Believe it or Not! BP #4 is here!
« on: March 27, 2022, 07:47:05 pm »
Point well made Ezyo!

Peace,

Mont

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Black Panther / Re: BP710: THE PROTOCOLS - I Got Issues... The Number Ones - First issue's impact!
« on: March 20, 2022, 08:40:14 pm »
Quote from: supreme illuminati on February 17, 2022, 10:49:16 am

I AM SO TIRED OF THIS: "LET'S ERADICATE/THREATEN TO ERADICATE WAKANDA!" THING. AARON IS AN AMAZING WRITER WITH INCREDIBLE IDEAS AND ACTUALLY DOES RIGHT BY T'CHALLA...AND IF THIS WASN'T THE UMPITY UMPTEENTH TIME WE'VE SEEN WAKANDA THREATENED OR DESTROYED? I MIGHT BE INTERESTED. BUT AS IT STANDS? NAH. HE COULD HAVE JUST INTRODUCED 'THE INVINCIBLE VIBRANIUM MAN' WITHOUT DESTROYING WAKANDA IN THE PREMISE. THE CONCEPT OF 'THE INVINCIBLE VIBRANIUM MAN' HAS CRAZY POTENTIAL. DON'T USE THIS TIRED PROP OUTTHE GATE, DAMAGING THE ORIGINALITY IN THE PROMISE OF THIS NEW CHARACTER...




Quote from: Ture on February 16, 2022, 11:21:57 pm
Exclusive: Avengers Forever #6 Introduces a New Variant of T’Challa
BLAIR MARNELL WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 2022


Last year, writer Jason Aaron and artist Aaron Kuder relaunched Avengers Forever as an ongoing series starring the Avengers of the Multiverse. And the heroes have their hands full with the Multiversal Masters of Evil. But this May, a familiar face is joining the fight and making his debut in Avengers Forever #6. Aaron and artist Jim Towe are about to introduce the T’Challa of a world where he was never Black Panther. Instead, the former Prince of Wakanda has become the Invincible Vibranium Man!

“This issue kicks off a new arc that explores the Pillars of the Avengers, the core of the core, in all-new incarnations from across the multiverse,” explained Aaron. “This first chapter is all about T’Challa, from an alternate earth where Wakanda has been wiped out by the version of Killmonger who wears the Asgardian Destroyer armor and has been raising hell as part of the new Multiversal Masters of Evil. Cut off from his birthright and desperate to avenge his fallen nation, T’Challa must become something surprising and new: the Vibranium Man, a version of the character that takes the Prince of Wakanda to some wildly unexpected new heights.“

Here’s the cover for the issue by Kuder.




Here’s the official description from Marvel.

“INTRODUCING THE INVINCIBLE VIBRANIUM MAN!

On an alternate Earth where Wakanda has been crushed from existence and where the Black Panther is a forgotten legend, one man known as T’Challa will forge a new legacy for himself and perhaps even hope for a planet caught in the grips of the god-slaughtering King Killmonger.”

Avengers Forever #6 will hit comic book stores on Wednesday, May 25

https://www.superherohype.com/comics/511346-exclusive-avengers-forever-6-introduces-a-new-variant-of-tchalla


The penchant for destroying Wakanda and disrupting or obfuscating the Black Panther to get some traction on a new tale is trite and tiresome. Produce something new and original to play off of. I also would have preferred a cooler more distinct appellation. Something like Isipho - Wielder of the Gift. just saying... put a little creative effort in, it could pay great dividends. Costume should had paid more homage to the vibraium charged habit rather than to Iron Man. Anyway I hope he has a unique power set and we get a good read.



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I remember CJP saying the more renowned T’Challa/BP and Wakanda became the more writers would want to tear them down. He was 100% on target! 🎯 He was prophetic in a way only a comic book industry insider could be.

Peace,

Mont

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Black Panther / Re: NEW BLACK PANTHER COMIC BOOK - Ridley's Believe it or Not! BP #4 is here!
« on: March 13, 2022, 08:34:16 am »
This is what comes from not being connected, whether willfully or just not cognizant, to BP cannon. T’Challa had to defeat 6 of Wakanda’s most fierce warriors before earning the right to take the hsh! Commitment to the lore should be reflected throughout the entire narrative. If the writer is…unaware, then editorial has the responsibility to check that. Marvel editorial has been shorting T’Challa for years now. This with Omolola is not even the most egregious example. I can see T’Challa not taking Omolola as a serious threat, but the BP #4 narrative did not adequately portray such machination. All in all, Ridley imo, is still a rung above Coates. Here’s to hoping he climbs?

My Two Cents.

Peace,

Mont

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Black Panther / Re: BLACK PANTHER'S AVENGERS New Black Panther Costume Designed To Fight Doctor Doom
« on: February 13, 2022, 04:31:50 pm »
I’ve found that Aaron approaches T’Challa with an intelligence and deference that has been sorely lacking in the main BP title  since RH. Certainly more than Coates who’s disdain and lack of imagination rivals that which Roy Thomas displayed, IMO.

Peace,

Mont

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Black Panther / Re: Storm
« on: February 06, 2022, 11:08:45 am »
Not cool with X-office/Marvel Editorial inventing secret Wakandan relationships with alien races that T’Challa, T’Chaka, Azzari nor assumably any of Wakanda’s Black Panthers (nor Bast) no anything about!?! Not only could it undermine their isolationist sovereignty and unconquered status, but the meritocracy and challenge day as well.

Peace,

Mont


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Black Panther / Re: BP710: THE PROTOCOLS - I Got Issues... The Number Ones - First issue's impact!
« on: January 27, 2022, 08:16:45 pm »
Agreed!

Peace,

Mont

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