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Black Panther / Black Panther #16 (Preview in Pg. 7 & Pg. 8)
« on: July 05, 2017, 03:49:29 pm »
Coates posted a page from BP #16 on twitter. Might as well get a new thread started.

Looks like Vibraxas (in the back) and Asha (from Infinity: The Hunt) have returned.

Black Panther / Black Panther #15 (Spoilers in Pg. 8)
« on: June 06, 2017, 01:34:45 pm »
Figured I'd start this early, as there's a lot of cool goodies via guest artist Adam Gorham.

But first, this variant cover by Jamie McKelvie:

Black Panther / Black Panther Fan Art Thread!
« on: May 16, 2017, 08:32:19 am »
Greetings all.

Being that we have users here with artistic abilities, I figured why not create a thread for HEF users to post their BP-related fan art?

Feel free to post away 8).

Black Panther / Black Panther #13 - Discussion (Preview)
« on: April 20, 2017, 10:18:34 am »

Black Panther / Shuri Appreciation
« on: April 17, 2017, 07:07:52 am »
As some of you familiar with me at CBR know, I am a big Shuri fan (T'Challa and Shuri are my top two fictional characters). And being that Shuri was created by none other than Reggie Hudlin himself, why not have a Shuri appreciation thread on the HEF?

Here's to hoping Shuri's journey continues to be eventful.  8)

Black Panther / Black Panther #12 SPOILERS and Discussion
« on: March 22, 2017, 09:16:24 am »
BP #12 is out today.

Spoilers incoming, so beware!


My thoughts....

Pretty good issue, imho.

-Art was great. Stelfreeze and Sprouse delivered.

-Characterization was good overall. The private conversations in particular between each party were very good, imho.

-The final page of this issue was kinda funny lol.

-More importantly, T'Challa is still King, and the monarchy is still around. However, he is now backed by a democratically elected council, representing all tribes of Wakanda.

In addition, T'Challa and Aneka seem to have made a deal of some kind.

Looking forward to season 2. Hopefully, Coates will fix the weaknesses of season 1 (slow pacing, bad action scenes, T'Challa's overall portrayal).

Black Panther / Black Panther #11 SPOILERS and Discussion
« on: February 22, 2017, 12:25:15 am »
BP #11 is out today. Hence this thread.

Will post my thoughts on this issue later on.

Black Panther / Black Panther #9 SPOILERS and Discussion
« on: December 28, 2016, 04:31:26 am »
BP #9 drops today. Will read and review soon.

Feel free to post your thoughts, as usual.

Black Panther / Black Panther #8 SPOILERS and Discussion
« on: November 16, 2016, 03:07:42 am »
BP #8 is out today. Will post my thoughts on this issue once I read it.

With that said, one definite "pro" I can give about this issue...

...the cover!

Hands down, without a shadow of a doubt, THE best cover of this season so far. I'd even put it among the top 5 BP covers period. It's that good. Stelfreeze and Laura Martin really outdid themselves with this one. 8)

Will the issue match the greatness of the cover? We'll find out soon.

Black Panther / Black Panther #7 SPOILERS and Discussion
« on: October 19, 2016, 06:20:34 am »
Didn't see a thread for today's issue, so I started one. Will post my thoughts once I read it.

Black Panther / BP Predictions: The Fate of the Wakandan Monarchy?
« on: September 18, 2016, 07:40:16 am »
Considered putting this on the big Coates run thread, but felt the topic was different and important enough to have its own thread.

As we all know by now, one of the things at stake in this run is the monarchy itself. Prior to the start of this run, Coates expressed his initial opinion of the monarchy: why would an advanced civilization as Wakanda have a monarchy? His writing so far has shown various parties being at odds with the monarchy.

We've already have the obvious players against it in Tetu, Zenzi, and Stane.

The MAs and their followers are a bit of a wildcard, but its safe to say at this point that they would support a change of the guard, under the right conditions.

Changamire has been advocating for democracy and appears to get gaining some support, including overseas.

There are other factors at play. Though the Wakandan people haven't openly revolted, #1 has made it clear that, internally, resentment towards the monarchy has been building up, due in large part because of previous events.

It's still somewhat vague at the moment, but the seemingly common thread in the stories in Shuri's journey are various lessons about leadership: connecting and being one with the people, patience, fortitude, etc. Coates said that Shuri will be a "different" character once she comes back from the Djalia. I suspect that difference will be on display vis-a-vis her approach and perspective in governing.

All in all, the in-story seeds of potential change in Wakandan governance (as well as Coates' personal opinions on the issue) are there and could result in a new style of governing that doesn't follow the traditional monarchy model.

Thus the question: what type of government will Wakanda have once #12 concludes? Will the monarchy remain as is, or will there be something different?

When the run started, I felt that Wakanda would transition towards a constitutional monarchy similar to the UK model. T'Challa is still king and the monarchy is still a highly influential part of Wakanda, but it no longer holds as much authority as it once did. A newly-formed Wakandan parliament--which will succeed the Wakandan council seen in the Hudlin run--will have the most amount of power and will be made up of elected members, including a prime minister.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if Wakanda ended up going with a modified version of a Diarchy that includes a strong parliament consisting of elected members. The monarchy stays around and has authority, only equaled by parliament. In case of a disagreement, the queen mother and/or an appropriate third party mediates the disagreement. I feel such a setup will be a compromise that allows Coates to get what he wants while those hoping that T'Challa is still king with authority get what they want.


T'Challa is King. Shuri is the co-ruler (helps address the gender topic that Coates pushed this season).

A new democratically-elected parliament is formed (addresses Coates desire for a more democratic voice in Wakanda).

The monarchy and parliament are somewhat equal in stature (addresses Coates desire for a more democratic voice).

Ramonda and/or a selected third party served as occasional mediators between the monarchy and parliament.

It's not perfect or my preferred choice. I prefer that things stay as is. But I would much rather go with this than the constitutional monarchy route, or an outright democracy.

So, I turn the question to you all. Do you think the monarchy will survive as is? If not, what changes do you think will occur?

Sidenote: I understand many of us would prefer for the monarchy to stay as is. As I mentioned, I do too. That said, change is on the horizon, whether we like it or not. The question is, what change do you think Wakandan government will encounter?

Black Panther / Black Panther #5 SPOILERS and Discussion
« on: August 10, 2016, 05:01:30 am »
Noticed that this thread hasn't been set up yet, so I've decided to create it.

Haven't read it yet, will head to the comic book shop to read it. Will give my thoughts once I've done so.

For those who have read it, feel free to post your thoughts. 8)

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