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Hey Mr Hudlin, hope you are doing well this fine day. A few questions for you.

When did you start reading comics?

If you were to do a monthly Black Panther buddy book, what hero would you make his partner(similar to Power Man & Iron Fist)?

What do you think is T'Challa's greatest technological accomplishment?

Thank you and have a great day.  8)
My older brothers read comics so I can't remember a time I didn't read comics.  I remember the first comic I bought.  We were at the spinner rack and my brothers were grabbing stuff so I asked mom if I could pick one out.  I bought a Gold Key Monkees comic.  My brothers were disgusted at the choice...they thought it was a waste of 12 cents that could have been spent buying a "real" comic beyond their budget.  But I stuck to my guns. 

Hmmmm, a Black Panther buddy book. Panther and Storm?  Panther and Cage?  Panther and Reed?

Greatest tech accomplishment?  One of the Priest ideas like that mother box for Wakandans he made, or those big ass battleships.

What was your favorite arc to write during your tenure? which was your least favorite? Also what has been your absolute Favorite feat in T'Challa's publication history?
Honestly, they were all fun to write.  Doing the first arc, actually writing the panther, was unbelievable.  Three the Hard Way, with all the heroes helping New Orleans post-Katrina, was a highlight. The marriage arc was history and satisfying, despite hateration.  The annual with Storm and T'Challa's family made me just want to write stories set in that time.  The story on the Skull gladiator planet was enjoyable because I loved that original story so much, plus I got to put MLK, Malcolm X and the Black Panthers all in one story.
Mr. Hudlin, thanks for participating in this thread of Q&A. I really enjoy reading your answers as to what your ideas for BP would have been and they give joy and pain in that they confirm what many of us longtime hardcore as well as some new fans who are learning more about the history of this character believed you would have done had you not left the scene. I understand you won't talk about other writers, which is fair. But, whenever I run into someone who says they know the character because of what Coates wrote, I tend to roll my eyes and ask them if they've ever read yours or Christopher Priest's work with BP let alone anything from McGregor, Kirby or even some of the work by McDuffie. Because I feel more BP fans should be aware of how much of the current mythos you have a part in. Even watching the on-screen version of BP  by Chadwick Boseman, I see the merging of the Priest/Hudlin depictions of T'Challa and Wakanda (minus Ororo as wife, unfortunately) over anything else.  I really hope that more folks go back read some of the writers, like yourself, that actually made BP a bad ass and "A-list" hero in the MU well before he hit the movie screen. To take in the work of ALL writers to see how far the character has come.

Sorry if this isn't really a question as opposed to more of a statement and show of appreciation of your work with BP. But I felt I should speak on it.

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Some CBR Critiques

Coates to me is much like Snyder writing Superman. You shouldn't be in charge of a character if you don't believe in the core concept. If you don't believe in a selfless inspirational hope bringer that loves saving people because he has a big heart and good values with the power to make a difference and thus does. Then don't write the Last Son Of Krypton. Same for T'Challa if you don't believe an Afro-Futurism with a Genius Warrior King willing to make any sacrifice to keep his people free as the last undefeated Bastion in Africa. Then don't write Black Panther.      JediKage

It's Black Panther in Chiraq to me. And folks will scream it sells and that all you should care about-however it is more than about sells. Like Empire, most of Tyler Perry stuff, Survivor's Remorse, Power and a certain Cyborg comic elsewhere-it is selling the notion of blacks-especially BLACK MALES as dysfunctional with black women looking as either the saviors or enablers. Which is not good. Funny when bashing All New Marvel-this book is MIA in the conversations. Funny we only hear bashing of a black character when he or she is not doing what is considering "staying in their place". The moment they stay in their place we hear SILENCE like with Rebirth over there for guys not named Duke. Folks don't expect BP to be perfect but this book should not be in the same realm as Empire, Tyler and those who toss out nonstop black dysfunction. Now is not the time.     skyvolt2000

Part of my frustrations with BP's writers: Writers for every other character (Spider-man to Wolverine to Ironman, Batman, Flash, Doom, etc) seemingly take joy in beefing up or authenticating those character's abilities, feats and tech savy.. as if they are fully cognitive of the competitive Rumbles Board culture inherent in superhero comics and actually look to contribute to it. It's why the Priest's era BP is the MCU BP being used, b/c that's flat out the coolest he's ever been. Also why I would've favored Hickman, Morrison or JMS to write a BP solo, b/c they are similar to Priest in that they embrace (or at least entertain) that culture and don't just find it "male fantasy wish fulfillment" or whatever the crap Coates was dubbing it. They would be kids in the candy store reaping all the potential to be had with "anti-metal" claws, kinetic push-force vibranium weaves and kimoyo cards. Authenticating it but instead we have to wait for T'Chadwick to do all the heavy lifting and trend setting. smh            Rumble

Coates should be ashamed of himself. Yes he sold, but his message is problematic in the extreme. His push of negative imagery is pathetic and sad.   Victor Freeman
These were so on point. sometimes I half doubt myself when I see people saying something is successful, regardless of the substance of that something , because it sells. But then I gain my senses and think that just because something is popular for a time, doesn't necessarily mean its good for you. I mean fast food sells big, but is it good for you?

Good to see that it isn't only HEFer's that have some perspective on the BP mythos and how it's being used (abused?) again.

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Watched the Coates Q&A at Amalgam Comics. You can see it here: https://www.facebook.com/amalgamphilly/videos/1106071119500129/

A few highlights:

-Coates planned on using the original Crew, but then found out that Josiah Bradley was unavailable (complicated reasons, apparently) and that Rhodey was going to be killed. Thus, he went a different direction.

-Bast was supposed to appear in issue #13, but that might not happen. Coates didn't mention Bast not showing up at all, so anything is possible.

-The previous Panthers are set to appear in season 2, possibly as early as issue #13.

-Narratively, Coogler and the MCU will probably be influenced by a lot of Priest and some Hudlin.

-Visually, Cooger and the MCU will be probably influenced a lot by Stelfreeze.


-Coates talks to Coogler often, as they are friends. However, Coates isn't involved in the making of the film.
Well that's good to know. I was really concerned about the MCU going the "Coates-Panther" route. Good to know somebody has some sense with the direction team working with Marvel Studios

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So I tweeted Ewing about the Doras being with T'challa in his book but not with him in his solo.

He actually responded...

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Definitely not the same Dora Milaje - maybe not full Doras at all, even. A token presence for diplomatic purposes.

The BP solo takes priority in any no-prizing.
Too bad. I was hoping Ewing would have said they were part of the Dora Milaje who didn't follow the "rebel" faction that split from T'Challa. In fact, that would have been a great Marvel plot line of a "civil war" within the DM, I think.

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I really thought I was being to judgmental when I first starting reading Coates-Panther and was distressed. Because there was some push back on my statements of disapproval, I thought maybe I should wait and give it a chance. I kept saying, "I'll give it just ONE more issue!" and I still tried to have some hope Coates would maybe read some of the tweets or comments from actual long time BP fans and consider what his legacy would be in writing a iconic black character in comics and the hopes those fans who stuck by the character through the "dark times" the character endured over the last couple of years. Coates, the only black writer of the character right now, is the most detrimental to it. I never thought I'd say it, but it's true. And he probably doesn't even see it that way which is a travesty. Like someone said earlier, you have too many new fans and folks who never knew what the character was about drinking Coates Cool-aid just because there is a black writer writing a black character. That's enough for them. You can see it in the many posts on Facebook and other social media pages that pop up where folks don't have clue of the BP mythos.  You can go in there and try to correct falsehoods and erroneous beliefs and it's to no avail. Even if they did just start with Priest, at least that is ok if they at least read that entire run AND Hudlin's to have SOME perspective. But alas, there are folks who haven't even done that let alone read any of the earlier writers. I mean you still got people stuck on the T'Challa/Storm marriage when that ship has loooonnnnggg since past. And after every thing Storm has done just before and after the divorce, why would a fan really want to see them back together anyway?

Yes, it is good that the character is getting such exposure in the MU now that its taking him to "A-List"status. But what type of A-lister will he be when it's all said and done? The writers of BP in guest appearances and other team books are doing a better portrayal of the character. Makes since, since unlike Coates, they are actual comic story writers and know enough of the history of the character. Some are actually meant what they said when they said they were fans of the character. It' looks like our hopes lie with them now to keep that T'Challa alive until somebody else, a real fan of BP , eventually replaces Coates. We can only hope it's sooner than later.

[hipster time]

i've stopped arguing with the newbs or the old time fans that somehow read every run but don't remember sh*t.

I post a scan that shows them they are wrong and move on. Isn't worth it.

/hipster
True enough. I guess I'll stop getting frustrated over those folks over there and concentrate venting or praising BP stuff over here.

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Black Panther / Re: The Black Panther Movie!!!
« on: September 13, 2016, 12:43:23 pm »
Coogler ain't gonna chump. I just can't see it happening.

There is a reason Feige talked to the people he did. Ava, Gray, Coogler. None of them are gonna chump. Feige knows he can't do that, the backlash would be incredible.

Nothing surprises me, Blade "needed" Whistler, Django "needed" the dentist, Panther will probably "need" Ross.  As long as they get the Dora Milaje right and I can hold my head high taking my girls to see it I'm cool. All the history since Priest introduced the characters it would suck for them to take aspects of the characters from the last 4 months of Panther books. One question though, what happened to Florence Kasumba who with 4 words in Civil War practically stole the whole movie from every other actor?
Exactly. I hope they are going to have that actress in the movie. And please let there be  no Coates influenced depictions of the DM of T"Challa  for this film.

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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther #6 SPOILERS and Discussion
« on: September 13, 2016, 12:37:50 pm »
T'challa's genius is once again in full display there.

Has the worlds most advanced weapon's arsenal....

Sends in the HZ in a low flying plane in broad daylight with parachutes...............

If only the HZ had cloaking tech and night vision goggles or something....

LOL!!!

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With this preview, it seems that Coates is continuing his deconstruction of Wakanda. Since he cannot fathom a monarchy in an advanced country, he is changing Wakanda. To him the Doras represent Patriarchy, therefore he is going to change that. Hence "NO ONE MAN." My question is it would have been far more interesting for Coates to have written a story about how such a government could work. A way that the people of his nation have a voice, thrive and flourish.

I have not truly enjoyed Coates' choices in this story. But what bothers me the most is that I do not know what T'Challa really wants. Or what he believes is the best for Wakanda. So far the way Coates has written this story, Monarchs must subjugate is citizens to remain in power since Coates believes that no one from an thriving would want to be a part of any nation without a voice. But this T'Challa so far has no vision. What is he attempting to accomplish? Is he just trying to quell the renegade Doras and stop the revolution? How do you quell a revolution? Coates is giving T'Challa complex problems but where is the genius who would have at least a theory to save his nation? This T'Challa appears to not have a clue.

Where are T'Challa followers who believe in him amongst the nation? This story so far shows a lot of protest and disenchantment with the throne and the only ones that want to keep the status quo appear to be the ones in the seat of power.

And where the hell is Bast? As the Hatut Zeraze stated in the preview, the throne is the embodiment of the Goddess Bast and her nations is coming apart. That is a fundamental part of Wakanda but it is being ignored.



CBR's Taozen

Sums it up pretty well.

Agreed!

No peace,

Mont

Heh. Let's see how many more of us agree with these comments since they were so spot on. And with such artistically sarcastic flare too.

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I really thought I was being to judgmental when I first starting reading Coates-Panther and was distressed. Because there was some push back on my statements of disapproval, I thought maybe I should wait and give it a chance. I kept saying, "I'll give it just ONE more issue!" and I still tried to have some hope Coates would maybe read some of the tweets or comments from actual long time BP fans and consider what his legacy would be in writing a iconic black character in comics and the hopes those fans who stuck by the character through the "dark times" the character endured over the last couple of years. Coates, the only black writer of the character right now, is the most detrimental to it. I never thought I'd say it, but it's true. And he probably doesn't even see it that way which is a travesty. Like someone said earlier, you have too many new fans and folks who never knew what the character was about drinking Coates Cool-aid just because there is a black writer writing a black character. That's enough for them. You can see it in the many posts on Facebook and other social media pages that pop up where folks don't have clue of the BP mythos.  You can go in there and try to correct falsehoods and erroneous beliefs and it's to no avail. Even if they did just start with Priest, at least that is ok if they at least read that entire run AND Hudlin's to have SOME perspective. But alas, there are folks who haven't even done that let alone read any of the earlier writers. I mean you still got people stuck on the T'Challa/Storm marriage when that ship has loooonnnnggg since past. And after every thing Storm has done just before and after the divorce, why would a fan really want to see them back together anyway?

Yes, it is good that the character is getting such exposure in the MU now that its taking him to "A-List"status. But what type of A-lister will he be when it's all said and done? The writers of BP in guest appearances and other team books are doing a better portrayal of the character. Makes since, since unlike Coates, they are actual comic story writers and know enough of the history of the character. Some are actually meant what they said when they said they were fans of the character. It' looks like our hopes lie with them now to keep that T'Challa alive until somebody else, a real fan of BP , eventually replaces Coates. We can only hope it's sooner than later.

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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther #5 SPOILERS and Discussion
« on: August 30, 2016, 03:19:18 pm »
I was gonna post my opinion of Issue #5, but after going through the 7 pages in this thread, what's the point? What can I say that most of you have already said. Basically, with a few things excepted, everyone had major criticisms with this issue. Guess it's gonna be a long season with Coates at the wheel.

But I gotta say, some of y'alls disapproving sidecraks in this thread are HIlarious! (especially looking at you Salustrade and Mind Of Shadow)
 ;D

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Black Panther / Re: The Ultimate, New Black Panther, New Black Power???
« on: August 30, 2016, 02:57:58 pm »
Honest mistake. What was I projecting?
I'm wondering the same. I got what you were saying Ture. However, I think if you had specifically asked "what is asinine for BP to defeat Thanos?" when making your points, then it maybe it would have been understood better.

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Squadron Supreme shows up to take down some secret lab. They are surprised to find Blue Marvel ready and waiting for them (obviously Ulysses warned him). Adam quickly wipes the floor with the other Squadron Supreme members with tech and physical powers so he could concentrate on "breaking a sweat" to deal with Hyperion. They start to fight, but when the other team members run away, Hyperion makes some bold statement about wondering who would actually win and then makes a "strategic withdrawal" after his team mates.

Eh, Blue Marvel already beat a Hyperion.
Yes, a different "version" of him. In fact that point is brought up during the fight.

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*SPOILER ALERT*
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Squadron Supreme shows up to take down some secret lab. They are surprised to find Blue Marvel ready and waiting for them (obviously Ulysses warned him). Adam quickly wipes the floor with the other Squadron Supreme members with tech and physical powers so he could concentrate on "breaking a sweat" to deal with Hyperion. They start to fight, but when the other team members run away, Hyperion makes some bold statement about wondering who would actually win and then makes a "strategic withdrawal" after his team mates.

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Not trying to spoli anything, but speaking of certain team players from the Ultimates, did anybody catch Squadron Supreme #10 yet?   :)

With certain Ultimate member straight up punking fools? It was pretty sweet!  ;)
LOL!. With a certain 'Supreme' member stating he would like to see who would actually win the fight but then says he has to go because his team mates are running away?

Yeah. I would agree the 'Ultimates" team member punked them all. In their own book too.  And I actually like Squadron Supreme. But hey....  ;D

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I find it hilarious that practically all of T'Challa's strong showings in the ANAD have occured outside of his own solo book.
Exactly.

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Not trying to spoli anything, but speaking of certain team players from the Ultimates, did anybody catch Squadron Supreme #10 yet?   :)

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