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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther Cancelled??!!!
« on: March 03, 2010, 12:42:24 pm »
Like I said, try being honest about why you're here. It'll go a long away.

Wait, you come here to gloat about the book being canceled that you haven't bought in months - and I come here and found out the book was canceled but I'M not being honest about why I'm here? That makes no sense. I've never pretended to be anything other than what I've written. No intention other than to commisserate then move on.

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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther Cancelled??!!!
« on: March 03, 2010, 12:39:37 pm »
blakyoda, if you think people actually buy the line you're saying, you're as stupid as you are full of sh*t disingenious.  

I don't care if you don't like the book or animated series.  I've sold more Black Panther comics than anyone in history. I've done that by making a book that is not meant to please everybody. If you're one of those people who doesn't like it, so be it.  I've got fans all over the world who feel otherwise.

But you only make an appearance at this site to spew negativity when you perceive a moment of weakness in the property.  And then have the nerve to say that's not what you're doing.  Man Up and stop being a punk.  



The books been canceled. I'm not happy about that, people are discussing why they think the book did or did not succeed. I am just one of many voices. You've got some folks blaming race, some folks blaming the current writing and some folks gloating that the comic that YOU put blood sweat and tears into is going to get canceled. But you wanna come at ME? Because I stated that JM took over a book that was already struggling? Now who's being disingenuous? 

I appear on this site from time to time to commiserate with other fans and discuss the direction of the book. The last time I was here I was the FIRST person to post the links to the BP cartoon. (The one that was promised to fans 2 years ago) The one that has only run in Australia and nobody knows why. As a FAN of BP, no matter who writes the book, I wanted to see the cartoon and shared it with other people who are fans of the comic. Sound like a 'hater move'? I am sure that there are some posters who would love me to come laugh or cheer or whatever about BP's impending demise but I'm sorry I can't play the villain that you want.

I am now, as I was 3 years ago when you came after me (and couldn't answer some basic questions about the healthcare situation at BET when you were president amongst other things) a fan of the book, and know little or nothing about you personally, only your work. I'm sorry if what I say really bugs you that much, because honestly that's not my intention, it's not that deep to me. You've moved on from the book, left the forum here for fans to keep talking and that's that. I don't know what it is you expect out of me - blind loyalty? Not gonna get it. General respect for you as a person? I don't know you and have never said anything about you personally. Undying praise for your writing on BP? This is a fan "forum" not a fan "club".

Disingenous would suggest that I've ever pretended to have intentions other than the ones I state. I have said the same thing since day one, I'm a fan of BP, I want the comic to do well and the character to do well, no matter who's writing it, or how much I like their work. Sorry if I can't be the punching bag. I take no pleasure in seeing black panther get canceled. 

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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther Cancelled??!!!
« on: March 03, 2010, 11:57:50 am »
Every other version of the character has been a machavelian plotter to some degree. Even Reg's straight talking version didn't actually SAY he was going to abdicate the throne for her. He let that question hang. I don't think he knw what he would have done himself.

Although I agree with you, T'Challa knew that Storm's demand was an irrelevant one. (And deep down, I think Storm knew it as well.)

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Mayberry had a no name artist and no tie ins and saw the same kinds of numbers that Priest did. So I want to see what kind of numbers Doomwar gets. Since he will have had both at that point.

The numbers will probably be fine, but what difference will it make when he's unemployed?

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If they do decide to relaunch the title they need to rename it Black Panther and Storm.

No. No. No no no NO. Absolutely not. (Talk about buckdancing?)

If you're all that bent out of shape then go after Jenn, she's gloating that the comic has been canceled, railing against anyone who liked it and is slamming a book she hasn't read since the new guy took over.

Jenn is being honest about why she's here. You should try it sometime.

I'm here because I found out a comic that I had been collecting for years has been canceled and I'm surprised and dismayed at that news. You're here to gloat about the fact that the changes to the book that you believed would kill it, have in fact actually killed the book. 

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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther Cancelled??!!!
« on: March 03, 2010, 11:54:37 am »
The previous writer came in with new ideas but quickly gained a reputation for dissing fanboys and crapping on the established history of a well loved character.
Then the previous writer was given the marriage of the decade, literally, in Storm and T'Challa's marriage.
This is why I can't take you seriously. You seem to be the kind of hater that pretends to be objective but puts forth propaganda.
If you had just said that the previous writer created the marriage of the decade, I could just ignore your peculiar interpretation of the events. But apparently, your little narrative doesn't allow for any credit for anything for RH and you're too uncouth to voice your "criticism" here in his house with any semblance of respect.



Curt, grow up. It's over, the comic is being canceled. You don't like my post - mortem or eulogy then don't read it. The marriage wasn't created by the past writer, Priest had the idea of Storm and BP getting married in the previous volume but it didn't go through (which I'm happy about, I think his version of the marriage would've been depressing.) So it WAS given to him, and he did make it happen but he did not create it. Why don't you point your phone rightgeous indignation somewhere else, there are plenty of autoposies being done on this book find one that makes you happy and go away.
Actually, I'm asking you to grow up. I am not talking about a comic book that I'm not reading but rather respecting my friend as a man, and acting like a man yourself. Maybe you genuinely don't get it; your behavior to date certainly supports that hypothesis.

Read the comic, and have since day one. Bought every issue. I notice that you didn't address my post either. The Previous writer did not create the marriage of Storm and T'Challa. It was an old idea that he brought to fruition. But I forgot, you just wanna whine and b***h because you've got some wild hair up your a** about my view of how the comic has been written at times and whether I'm reading it. 

If you're all that bent out of shape then go after Jenn, she's gloating that the comic has been canceled, railing against anyone who liked it and is slamming a book she hasn't read since the new guy took over. Oh that's right you're selective about who you want to complain about because you'd rather play passive aggressive "I'm protecting my friend" games. You'd think that after 3 or 4 years of this you'd finally get over yourself and hang up your "protector of [author's] pride" uniform juuuuussssttt long enough to allow other people to grieve and bemoan the passing of the comic in their own way. You can ply all the 50 cent words and mock disdain that you want it won't mask the fact that you've been whelping like a spanked puppy after every comment I've made on this site for 4 freakin' years. When I was talking about poor sales numbers you whined that I was being a hater, when I was saying that the marriage needed to be capitalized on you belly ached like I took your lunch money. On and on you've been sniffing after me like I stole your girlfriend and sent you the pictures. You have neither shamed me into silence nor enlightened me into agreement with anything you've ever written. How about you split the difference and go after a real target. Or just go home and call the previous writer so you can gossip about how mean I am. Sheesh.

You've sort of got a point.

I'd of banned you long ago.

You have nothing to contribute to this forum but "Reg Sucks".

And after you said that the first 500 times it got old.



  



Funny. I didn't even say that regarding the cancellation of the book. JM inherited a book that had been failing for months. He continued with that trend and didn't contribute much. The Worlds Apart Series ended at about 19K a month, the re-launch started with 50K and now the comic is back to 17K a month in a year. It may not truly MATTER who is writing the book, it only has a certain shelf life. Moreover, I simply suggested that if JM was going to take over a book that has been struggling, or had recently re-launched it made sense to go in a DIFFERENT Direction, rather than use the same old cast and storylines that had not been popular before. It's convenient to call that hate, but it's really just common sense.

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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther Cancelled??!!!
« on: March 03, 2010, 11:26:24 am »
The previous writer came in with new ideas but quickly gained a reputation for dissing fanboys and crapping on the established history of a well loved character.
Then the previous writer was given the marriage of the decade, literally, in Storm and T'Challa's marriage.
This is why I can't take you seriously. You seem to be the kind of hater that pretends to be objective but puts forth propaganda.
If you had just said that the previous writer created the marriage of the decade, I could just ignore your peculiar interpretation of the events. But apparently, your little narrative doesn't allow for any credit for anything for RH and you're too uncouth to voice your "criticism" here in his house with any semblance of respect.



Curt, grow up. It's over, the comic is being canceled. You don't like my post - mortem or eulogy then don't read it. The marriage wasn't created by the past writer, Priest had the idea of Storm and BP getting married in the previous volume but it didn't go through (which I'm happy about, I think his version of the marriage would've been depressing.) So it WAS given to him, and he did make it happen but he did not create it. Why don't you point your phone rightgeous indignation somewhere else, there are plenty of autoposies being done on this book find one that makes you happy and go away.
Actually, I'm asking you to grow up. I am not talking about a comic book that I'm not reading but rather respecting my friend as a man, and acting like a man yourself. Maybe you genuinely don't get it; your behavior to date certainly supports that hypothesis.

Read the comic, and have since day one. Bought every issue. I notice that you didn't address my post either. The Previous writer did not create the marriage of Storm and T'Challa. It was an old idea that he brought to fruition. But I forgot, you just wanna whine and b***h because you've got some wild hair up your a** about my view of how the comic has been written at times and whether I'm reading it. 

If you're all that bent out of shape then go after Jenn, she's gloating that the comic has been canceled, railing against anyone who liked it and is slamming a book she hasn't read since the new guy took over. Oh that's right you're selective about who you want to complain about because you'd rather play passive aggressive "I'm protecting my friend" games. You'd think that after 3 or 4 years of this you'd finally get over yourself and hang up your "protector of [author's] pride" uniform juuuuussssttt long enough to allow other people to grieve and bemoan the passing of the comic in their own way. You can ply all the 50 cent words and mock disdain that you want it won't mask the fact that you've been whelping like a spanked puppy after every comment I've made on this site for 4 freakin' years. When I was talking about poor sales numbers you whined that I was being a hater, when I was saying that the marriage needed to be capitalized on you belly ached like I took your lunch money. On and on you've been sniffing after me like I stole your girlfriend and sent you the pictures. You have neither shamed me into silence nor enlightened me into agreement with anything you've ever written. How about you split the difference and go after a real target. Or just go home and call the previous writer so you can gossip about how mean I am. Sheesh.

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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther Cancelled??!!!
« on: March 03, 2010, 11:04:42 am »
The previous writer came in with new ideas but quickly gained a reputation for dissing fanboys and crapping on the established history of a well loved character.
Then the previous writer was given the marriage of the decade, literally, in Storm and T'Challa's marriage.
This is why I can't take you seriously. You seem to be the kind of hater that pretends to be objective but puts forth propaganda.
If you had just said that the previous writer created the marriage of the decade, I could just ignore your peculiar interpretation of the events. But apparently, your little narrative doesn't allow for any credit for anything for RH and you're too uncouth to voice your "criticism" here in his house with any semblance of respect.



Curt, grow up. It's over, the comic is being canceled. You don't like my post - mortem or eulogy then don't read it. The marriage wasn't created by the past writer, Priest had the idea of Storm and BP getting married in the previous volume but it didn't go through (which I'm happy about, I think his version of the marriage would've been depressing.) So it WAS given to him, and he did make it happen but he did not create it. Why don't you point your phone rightgeous indignation somewhere else, there are plenty of autoposies being done on this book find one that makes you happy and go away.

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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther Cancelled??!!!
« on: March 03, 2010, 09:26:43 am »
I have no interest in gloating, or fanning the flames of conspiracy theories.


I'm picking up the slack for us both.  ;D But that's ONLY because I am truly joyful, not because I'm taking pleasure in others' misery.



But Obama following Bush? Bullsh*t. Obama is 1) qualified, and 2) has actually accomplished something during his short time in office. I'm sure Maberry is a perfectly competent writer - I'm not arguing otherwise - but he's out of his league here. As kitamu re said, what has he given to the Panther legacy? NANITES, that's what. Nanites and a punk bitch where a warrior king once stood. And the only reason why he's even been remotely accepted here is because of the pussification of the black American male. No self-respecting black man - and certainly not one who has any regard for women - would be caught dead reading this piece of sh*t.


Not to get overly political here but...

Bush f**ked up the country and the world for years by ignoring history and tradition, and making it clear that he played favorites and didn't care to make new friends. After 9-11, which was indirectly his fault depending on who you believe (and there are certain things I won't write even I DO believe them.) he had a chance to really unite the world towards a common purpose and get things done. Instead he blows it all on a fake war, tax cuts and screwing the poor.

Allegory:

The previous writer came in with new ideas but quickly gained a reputation for dissing fanboys and crapping on the established history of a well loved character.
Then the previous writer was given the marriage of the decade, literally, in Storm and T'Challa's marriage. All the hype and marketing was amazing. He had the chance to springboard this book to heights unseen in Panther's entire history. The wedding issue sold 63K the most of ANY black panther comic in HISTORY. And yet it was back down to 20K something 3 issues later.

Same story, just nobody had to die...but the allegory continues....

Obama follows Bush he's smart, he's capable but he's a little too committed to the system when the public is really calling for a radical change and a new direction. He hires alotta of the same people that Bush had, extends policies that Bush had and basically continues some of the things that everyone was unhappy with. Plus he's saddled with alotta mess that Bush MADE and left in his lap.  He's doing his best, he's doing OKAY - Not great but OKAY since he's only been in office for a year. I will withold judgment (but extending the patriot act for a year last week doesn't give me much optimism.)

Allegory:

Mayberry follows previous writer, he's okay, has some books under his belt but he's a LITTLE too committed to the previous regime. The previous writer's style wasn't working, the cast wasn't connecting with people and the sales were down. So what does he do? He picks the least developed least interesting character from the LAST regime and decides to dedicate the comic to HER? Just like Obama following Bush's lousy policies. By the time JM finally comes up with an interesting idea (I think Doomwar is actually rather interesting) it's too late. Comic is dead and he's just playing out the string. Could he have really turned it around, we'll never know. But he should've really gone in a different direction rather than trying to re-habilitate something that was moribund already. Hell Priest got 12 issues out of Casper Cole and that was a TERRIBLE idea. But he knew the book needed to go in another direction and FAST.

Maybe Obama will figure it out as well, Mayberry got cancelled after 12 issues, at least Obama has 4 years.


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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther Cancelled??!!!
« on: March 03, 2010, 09:10:02 am »
On the Doomwar front. As to the cell, I took it as meant for Magneto (who T'Challa had run ins with in the Priest series )or any mutant and the guy was just trying to mess with her head. I didn't see it as all as being for her. I also didn't see him "abandoning" her. He might have felt that way but what did he do? he didn't have the fire power to get her out, which meant taking down Doom so he enlisted help from her family.Her family.  One thing that has always been stressed about T'Challa from Yost's Storm mini to this--T'Challa NEVER asks for help. That's how Storm knew Shadow King still had control of him, but he dropped all pride all pretense, he went hat in hand to HER family. That says all there needs to be said about how he feels for her.

This is a non-issue. The entire royal family including T'Challa's wife are infected with machines that not only make them unknowing spies for Doom but could potentially be used to harm them as well. If he goes after Storm and lets her know what's up Doom may flip a switch and she dies, along with everyone else. It sounded nice to say he left Storm to the wolves for dramatic purposes but let's be real about this, he made the only sound decision you can make in that situation. Further, Cyclops does that ish* all the time, thinking of his 'people' before his wive(s) friends etc. Real Leaders have to make touch choices. That's what a KING does, and that's what any woman marrying a king would understand. It ain't all about them and their love, he's got a entire civilization to protect. Nuff said.

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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther Cancelled??!!!
« on: March 02, 2010, 01:46:18 pm »
Have to state that Mayberry's writing was improving with each issue and was certainly making Shuri a lot more interesting than before he came in to tighten the plots, strengthen the dialogue & pacing and make Doom War #1 popular enough to have X fans excited about catching up to this title & buying this book...they created a thread for it over on www.uncannyxmen.net and many on that site did not want the pairing of BP & Storm but have gained recent respect for the royal couple mainly because of the strong writing in the last few months.  Mayberry was barely given a chance and when he started the marketing/pr/advertising part with Doom War they simulataneously cancelled the book - it's hard to call it fair.

The book was dying when the previous writer jumped ship. The new guy took over a sinking ship and then proceeded to spend the first 7 issues "thinking of a master plan" rather than just writing a comic. I do not entirely fault Mayberry, damage was done to this product for the previous 3 years due to shoddy writing, there is but so much you can do to hype a book when the base product is wack. Fair isn't really the issue, Mayberry following the previous writer is like Obama following Bush. The guy came in trying to clean up a WHOLE lotta mess that wasn't his fault. Perhaps he didn't have the BEST plans to fix things, but given how lousy the situation was that he inherited he tried his best.

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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther Cancelled??!!!
« on: March 02, 2010, 01:35:41 pm »
Well I emailed Maberry about the rumors and he said that if it is then Marvel hasn't told him and that DW has five more issues to go.

Well....I have no idea how to properly express my feelings about this....But I'll try....

1. The comic is canceled, that is obvious. The mini-series will continue.

2. This is the THIRD hiatus / mini -series in the comic's run over the last 3 years (Worlds Apart, Doomwar than that Kid Panther / Kid Storm story to justify the marriage.) They ain't getting another one anytime soon. This is getting into Flash / Dr. Strange / Namor territory now where they keep re-launching over and over again to no avail. Let it breathe for awhile.

3. I never liked the writing on this volume. The first writer killed the book with his poor characterization, and no matter how many guest writers and company wide hype was added to the book it was hemmoraging readers from Day. One and the same after the SECOND re-launch. All that money, all that hype, marriage to the most popular woman in Marvel comics and they STILL couldn't reach the same number of issues as Christopher Priest's series. The fact is this book had a poor writer, followed by too many mini-series followed by a TERRIBLE cast change (who the hell cares about BP's SISTER?) and another writer who while ADEQUATE and certainly better than the previous writer gave us 5 issues to set up what could have been done in ONE issue setting up doomwar.

4. The cancellation is sad because Doomwar # 1 was the MOST interesting BP comic I'd read since Jason Aaron guest wrote 3 issues during Secret Invasion. It always seemed to me that just about EVERYBODY else could get a decent handle on these characters (McDuffie in Fantastic Four, Jason Aaron, World Apart) except whoever happened to be writing it monthly.

5. If you have any doubt as to how poor this writing really was, from jump, watch the Black Panther cartoon on youtube. It was incredibly Dull past the first episode. And it was a word for word re-creation of the first arc of this re-launch.

I have no interest in gloating, or fanning the flames of conspiracy theories. Storm and BP's marriage is intact for the foreseeable future - it's being treated as a given in SO many other books now that It's moving towards 'canon' status. I can't say I'll miss the comic, since it had basically been mediocre for years, but I can say that I hope that BP gets more respect and better moments as a character in the fall tv cartoon. Plus, I think he'll be back in some form before too long.

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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther Cartoon On-Line
« on: February 17, 2010, 11:17:36 am »

I just finished watching it. It was great at first then got really really slow. Not nearly enough action. Unfortunately it reminded me exactly of why I was unimpressed with the first 6 issue arc. Much of the story could've been condensed into 2 episodes with alot more action - but hey at least they did a better job of integrating Storm into the storyline than the actual comic.

I agree it did slow down some but it almost had to due to the way it started.  The extended fight between Cap and BP really helped ot make BP TAS a different experience.  Issue #3 of WITBP was one of my favorites of Reg's entire run so I loved seeing that animated too, but episode 4 was a dramatically different experience for me.  I actually felt my heart racing as all of the attacks started raining on Wakanda.  I took it as confirmation that the material was/is ideally suited to the screen as Reg had said from jump I believe.

Thanks again blkyoda.

My hope is that folks will watch it - since i don't know how long it'll be on-line, but I just don't see it being much of a success in the United States. Ultimately a cartoon is supposed to be about ACTION - and there just wasn't enough of that in this carton.



Peace,

Mont

My hope is that

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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther Cartoon On-Line
« on: February 10, 2010, 05:28:32 pm »
Greetings everyone,
Don't say ole' blackyoda never gave you anything.

blkyoda you are the man!  Thank you!

I'm still trying to catch my breath, WOW!

"T'Challa, it's the Prez!  Let me talk to you."  LOL!  Reg you know you wanted to say "Holla."  :)

Peace,

Mont

I just finished watching it. It was great at first then got really really slow. Not nearly enough action. Unfortunately it reminded me exactly of why I was unimpressed with the first 6 issue arc. Much of the story could've been condensed into 2 episodes with alot more action - but hey at least they did a better job of integrating Storm into the storyline than the actual comic.

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Black Panther / Black Panther Cartoon On-Line
« on: February 10, 2010, 06:03:30 am »
Greetings everyone,

Don't say ole' blackyoda never gave you anything. Apparently the BP cartoon was ONLY shown in Australia, in fact all 6 episodes have already run. However, they are available on-line if you want to see the first few. Very retro. I think for older fans the art and animation are probably neat and kitchy for younger kids I suspect they'd find it awkward for an action cartoon. Have at it!
And watch it quick, i suspect once the views hit a certain number either Marvel, or ABC Australia will try to pull it down.

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Black Panther / Re: Storm
« on: October 31, 2009, 05:14:29 pm »
Just read Ellis' first storyline on Astonishing.  Glad I waited for library version.  Besides making Storm weaker than my take on Storm (which I admit is weaker than Rutog's), did it sound to you like he didn't care for the marriage?  She's bored????????

Storm was conceived with having the power of a goddess and has been given feats to back it up. I merely bring that out for people to see in case they are not aware of it. There is canon enough that establishes sufficient power levels for the character (and even greater power potential) that a writer can justifiably have her beat anyone she needs to beat in a fight.

Is that the series where she's pouring her heart out to Emma Frost, who tells her to shut up, which makes Storm happy?

Hence I don't read the title.

I didn't take it nearly as negatively. Storm spent as much time insulting the White Queen - it was nice seeing someone put Emma in her place.

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Black Panther / Re: For the T'Choro marriage to be so hated...
« on: October 31, 2009, 05:12:51 pm »
Was that Priest's brilliant idea that Ororo would marry T'Challa to save him from himself?  ??? I mean, I love T'Choro, but c'mon now.

Yeah, the way I remember him telling it, it sounded less like love and more like an intervention with wedding bands. I really enjoyed Priest's run, but having read a lot of his books and keeping up with his blog the guy had a REALLY depressing view of relationships. I don't see the BP / Storm marriage under him being a joyous thing.

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