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Vox Populi / Re: WORDS - and Judging One Another Favorably
« on: November 09, 2008, 06:52:16 pm »
How is he wasting anybodies time? He posting something he saw as positive and you jumped all over him for it.  The avatar is a comic book, a piece of fiction he enjoys.  The message he is trying to send with this post is for the real world and real world issues. 

I did not "jump all over him."  I merely made an observation, which, the last time I checked, I'm permitted to do.



Of course you are DamonO.  It really seemed like nitpicking to me, that's all.  We are all free to post what we want here, but why not discuss the positive message of the post rather than on something that really isn't important to Mike's message?

Hey, do I tell YOU what you should discuss?  If we're all free to post what we want here then I should be free to make any observation I want, as long as I'm not violating the rules.  But thanks for the suggestion. ::)

For real, Jesse. I agree with DamonO in this case. If he wants to be an instigating, complaining, self-righteous dick who refuses to hide his hard-on for Michael, then let him, as long as he's not violating any rules here.

Oh yeah, that's fair.  When you disagree with Michael, anything goes, but when I say anything critical of him, I'm being a self-righteous dick.

Who knew being the Barney Fife over an online forum was such a power trip.

Yeah, I know -- suspended.  Fine.

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Vox Populi / Re: WORDS - and Judging One Another Favorably
« on: November 09, 2008, 06:31:48 pm »
How is he wasting anybodies time? He posting something he saw as positive and you jumped all over him for it.  The avatar is a comic book, a piece of fiction he enjoys.  The message he is trying to send with this post is for the real world and real world issues. 

I did not "jump all over him."  I merely made an observation, which, the last time I checked, I'm permitted to do.



Of course you are DamonO.  It really seemed like nitpicking to me, that's all.  We are all free to post what we want here, but why not discuss the positive message of the post rather than on something that really isn't important to Mike's message?

Hey, do I tell YOU what you should discuss?  If we're all free to post what we want here then I should be free to make any observation I want, as long as I'm not violating the rules.  But thanks for the suggestion. ::)

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Vox Populi / Re: WORDS - and Judging One Another Favorably
« on: November 09, 2008, 06:16:18 pm »
How is he wasting anybodies time? He posting something he saw as positive and you jumped all over him for it.  The avatar is a comic book, a piece of fiction he enjoys.  The message he is trying to send with this post is for the real world and real world issues. 

I did not "jump all over him."  I merely made an observation, which, the last time I checked, I'm permitted to do.

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Vox Populi / Re: PALINtology
« on: November 09, 2008, 06:07:10 pm »
Here is Sarah Palin's reaction to the smears against her by "anonymous" McCain staffers who are trying to cover their own butts:

Palin:  "I consider it cowardly"
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/11/07/intv.tuchman.palin.cnn?iref=videosearch

... and here is the CNN Commentary:  Cutting Through the Bull - Scapegoat Palin

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/11/06/ec.campbell.brown.palin.cnn?iref=videosearch

... and William Kristol confirming that lies and slanders are being spread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AywkZYWuwB4


The very same McCain people who told us she was ready to be President, if need be.

Hard to figure out why these guys lost.

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Vox Populi / Re: WORDS - and Judging One Another Favorably
« on: November 09, 2008, 06:05:16 pm »
No, DamonO, you miss the point.  The avatar is tongue-in-cheek.  It is humor.  It is not serious. 

Therefore, there is no contradiction.  Sheesh!

You know, I really don't even care enough to debate this point.  Feel free to waste our time with whatever else you've got to post here.

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Vox Populi / Re: WORDS - and Judging One Another Favorably
« on: November 09, 2008, 04:53:28 pm »
OK DamonO, point taken, but you've gotta see the avatar in the right light, as the humorous image that it is in the context of political discussions, to see that there really is no contradiction at all.  Which makes your swastika analogy totally misplaced.  Because my avatar is funny.  A swastika ain't.


                   Ohhhhhh my ....


Once again, you miss the point.  Its not that your avatar is offensive like a swastika is.  Its that your avatar contradicts the message of your posting.

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Vox Populi / Re: WORDS - and Judging One Another Favorably
« on: November 09, 2008, 11:58:53 am »
I'm not talking about the cartoon mike that doesn't interest me in the slightest, i am speaking of something else entirely which has more to do with the title of this thread. Conversations on this board are usually between adults occasionally there have been immature trolls who have been weeded out early and dismissed but the core membership of the board are adults so if the point is to determine which words are respectful or not which judgements are respectful or not how open and honest do you think this conversation will go? Personally I don't have a problem arguing a difference of opinion, nor do I mind if i am wrong in an argument however, my manhood, judgement, and thought making processes can never be questioned in an environment such as this no one on the board knows me well enough to begin such an assessment and I sure as hell won't lay down for anybody to start with one, so if this is a quest for truth or understanding then bring it on

I'm really surprised I'm getting hostile responses (if they are hostile?) from the posting of an innocent cartoon that advocates that people use words in a non-hostile fashion to better communicate. 

K, are you even referring to my post, or to the general principle of anyone judging you favorably or not favorably.  I'm still not sure if your comments are even directed at me, or just directed to everyone out there generally.

Bring it on?  Bring what on?  I'm totally lost here.

As to the title of the thread ... I would also assume you agree that it is good for us all to be respectful of one another, etc.  By in large I think we do a pretty good job of it, even though during the election campaign things did get a little over the top every now and again.

I didn't post the cartoon to get into a fight with anyone. 

I hope some of the folks on this forum liked the message of the cartoon.  I did.


Speaking for myself, I don't have a problem with the cartoon.  I merely pointed out that its ironic that you were posting a message -- i.e. the cartoon -- that deals with people treating each other civilly while displaying an avatar that depicts a character behaving in an uncivil manner.  If I made a posting here decrying, say, anti-Semitism, while displaying a swastika as my avatar, wouldn't that strike you as odd?

And no, I'm not saying your avatar is the same as a swastika, just trying to make a point how the posting and the avatar can be seen as contradicting each other.

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Vox Populi / Re: Congratulations to You All
« on: November 09, 2008, 11:38:19 am »
Unfortunately,Barack would have to be one of the greatest leaders in all of modern history for his first term in office to even be considered moderately successful in his first term,because he's going to have to deal with the nearly cataclysmic screw ups,blunders and dooficity of Lil Bush.

Well ... I just hope that in 4, 8, 12, 20 years (if we're still around) that Democrats will not still be "blaming Bush" for the failures of Democratic Presidents.  But somehow, I can imagine, even when I'm sitting in an old folks home wearing adult Pampers, I'll still be hearing this mantra.

No, we'll be blaming Bush for the failure of his own administration.  And talk about hypocrisy, nobody can match Republicans when it comes to blaming previous Democratic administrations for their own failures.

9/11 happens under Bush, Republicans blame Clinton

Bin Laden still on the loose, Republicans blame Clinton

Economy tanks under Bush, Republicans blame Clinton

Job loss skyrockets under Bush, Republicans blame Clinton

Sub-prime mortgage scandal hits, Republicans blame Clinton AND Carter

A conservative on CNN just LAST NIGHT blamed Clinton for the mess going on in Iraq right now

And make no mistake about it, Bush has F*CKED up stuff so bad that some of it will take years to fix.




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Vox Populi / Re: The news media's double standard
« on: November 09, 2008, 09:08:15 am »
Now THIS is a good start:

Fox News Cut Out From Questions At Obama's First Press Conference
 


President-Elect Barack Obama held his first press conference yesterday, one that focused mainly on the current economic crisis. One detail that flew under the radar, however, was which networks and newpapers got to ask questions, or, rather, which one didn't get to ask a question. As Media Bistro notes, one network who was not called upon sticks out: Fox News.

It will be interesting to see how the conservative network adjusts to a political reality in which the Democratic Party holds the White House and substantial majorities in both houses of Congress. Michael Wolff, a Vanity Fair columnist who is writing an authorized biography on Rupert Murdoch's career and family, claims that even Murdoch is embarrassed by Fox News:

Now, with about six weeks to go before publication, Mr. Murdoch has raised objections with Mr. Wolff and his publisher about portions of the book, titled "The Man Who Owns the News: Inside the Secret World of Rupert Murdoch," that suggest that Mr. Murdoch is at times embarrassed by Fox News, which he owns, and its chief executive, Roger Ailes, and that he often shares "the general liberal apoplexy," as Mr. Wolff writes in the book, toward Fox News and its perceived conservative slant...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/08/fox-news-cut-out-of-quest_n_142404.html

Me again:  Good for Obama.  Too bad they don't just boot 'em out of the White House Press Room altogether when he takes over.  Why should partisan hacks pretending to be journalists be given the same credibility as actual journalists.  I hope he never takes a question from Fixed News.

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Vox Populi / Re: WORDS - and Judging One Another Favorably
« on: November 09, 2008, 09:00:26 am »
Reading Mike's earier post it occured to me that I can only think of 3 Marvel superheroes characters that are conservatives. U.S. Agent, Iron Man and Henry Gyrich.

Nick Fury, the Punisher, and J. Jonah Jameson.

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Vox Populi / Re: WORDS - and Judging One Another Favorably
« on: November 09, 2008, 08:54:33 am »
Depends on the words, who said them and from what position they were spoken from...if you attempt to pass judgement on another adult be ready to have the same done to you and never ever be dumb enough to try to raise another adult

Co-signed.

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Vox Populi / Re: WORDS - and Judging One Another Favorably
« on: November 08, 2008, 06:51:30 pm »
captain america 332 to 350, written by Mark Gruewald.  Captain America gave up being cap for various reasons, he was replaced by a guy named john walker who flipped out.  For a time Steve Rodgers wore the black cap costume, then John Walker took it and became the USAgent.  Walker also wore the black costume when he was a member of the West Coast Avengers.  Mike, having read comics for awhile like myself, probably looks on that storyline as fondly as I do.  It was really cool, I actually get sad when I think about it because Mark Gruewald has since passed away from cancer and I never felt he got the props he deserved as a comic writer.


The picture that Michael uses as his avatar has nothing to do with the John Walker as Cap storyline.  In fact, its from an Avengers West Coast issue that was published years later.  Regardless, it has nothing to do with my larger point that its ironic that he'd submit a post stressing civility and "judging one another favorably," while his avatar -- which accompanies every posting he makes here -- depicts one character he admires (uber-conservative U.S. Agent) being extremely uncivil to another he doesn't admire (Capt. America, who he feels is overly liberal).  In fact, the picture in its entirety actually shows Walker about to punch Cap and being held back by Iron Man.


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I got it read it and really enjoyed it. As someone who has complained about the lack of Uber Black Heroes in Marvel Kevin really fleshed out exactly who/what I thought a black omega level hero would be.

Some thoughts:

Will we see the Blue Marvel ever in current Marvel 616?
Will he be contained to stories not effecting the current or past marvel status quo. Its one thing for him to knock out a no name another to take it to a big hitter?
Any possibility that if all goes well with the first arc of the new Panther series we could see him show up in the Black Panther?

Not wanting to jump too far ahead but as this story plays out and I'm sure it will be fire, it will be a shame to not see the Blue Marvel again.

The Blue Marvel will appear in Marvel 616.  When, after this series, I don't know yet.

As for him meeting other Marvel characters in the past, check out issue #3 and #4.

KG

Isn't this miniseries based on Marvel 616? If not, then what universe is it?



The Lost Generation heroes were characters who were retroactively added to Marvel's mainstream universe continuity.  They were superheroes who "filled in the gap" between the World War II characters of the 1940s and modern day heroes of the Marvel Universe.  They were shown being active in the 1950s and 60s.  Of course, with Marvel's sliding timeline, they would've had to have filled in the 70s, 80s, and part of the 90s as well since the modern day Marvel U -- which is supposed to have begun with the first appearance of the Fantastic Four -- is no more than 10 years old (in continuity).

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Vox Populi / Re: WORDS - and Judging One Another Favorably
« on: November 08, 2008, 09:03:38 am »

And yet, your avatar features a picture a right-wing zealot yelling at highly respected superhero.  Whoa, look, there's that irony thing again!  Just saying.

or maybe he's just a captain america fan and remembers way back in the day how cool that particular storyline was.

What particular storyline specifically?




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Vox Populi / Re: let's give props
« on: November 08, 2008, 06:46:59 am »
And major props go to DNC Chairman HOWARD DEAN.  He was the one who initiated a 50-state plan, instead of listening to the old guard who only wanted to concentrate on certain states.  The old guard mocked the idea, but because of his efforts, the Dems retook Congress and helped them retake the White House.

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