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Black Panther / Re: Frank Cho on Black Panther
« on: December 18, 2006, 12:36:24 pm »
All I'll say is...when I'm at McDonald's, I want the guy to ring me up, not give me his opinion on anything. I want my burger, not his POV.

When they start interviewing the McDonald's guy he can give his POV all he wants. That the point of the thing.

I understand, but all I'm gonna care about is Cho's artwork, not how he feels about the character. Until he gets the chance to push policy and put into affect what he's saying (not saying he would if he could, mind you) = non issue. The the point of the thing *I* was saying. Glad he's important enough to be interviewed, but its his art, not his POVs that weigh more to me. Sorry I didn't convey that properly.

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Black Panther / Re: Frank Cho on Black Panther
« on: December 18, 2006, 12:14:05 pm »
All I'll say is...when I'm at McDonald's, I want the guy to ring me up, not give me his opinion on anything. I want my burger, not his POV.

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Black Panther / Re: The Future of Black Panther and Storm?
« on: December 18, 2006, 12:05:53 pm »
Just had a horrible thought...

Now, I don't know how much of the online community make up the people who read comics, whether its significant or not...but if sales are any indication, is it possible if Marvel wants to end this marriage to appease fans who want Storm backburned to hell in X-Men yet again...maybe divorce isn't what they had in mind...

Everytime I hear one of these complaints about Storm and BP, its coupled with intense hatred for Black Panther. Is it possible if Marvel ever wants to end the marriage, they'd end it by making Storm a widow? Its not a good time to be a black hero in comics these days, and maybe Marvel feels having just two (Falcon and Luke Cage) is enough? I bet these same people hating on this relationship would jump for joy and buy multiple copies of Black Panther buying it. Someone they hated would be dead, someone they love (probably the object of some wish fulfilment fantasies) would be free to date Wolverine/Forge/whomever not black, and she'd be, again, backburned in X-Men forever and ever amen.

*shudders*

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Black Panther / Re: Jenn vs. the fanbratti
« on: December 14, 2006, 09:35:11 am »
what i like is when they say that storm isn't black or african...she is somethin'...else.
a higher evolution greater than the common black or afican...
sad, really...

That actually makes sense in a f-ed up kind of way. They can't reconcile liking someone black so she MUST be something else besides or instead of black. I figure this is the same reason why both Bishop and now Blade are both half black (Bishop is actually half aboriginie half Austrailian I believe).

Bishop is half Aborigine and half Australitian?? huh?

dose that mean one of his parents is supposed to be white now?

How can that be...as Dark as He is  :o :o :o

Same thing I said about Blade, but...yeah. And assuming Blade's current mini is in continuity, yeah, he's mixed, too. According to that mini, his mom was a black prostitute in London who got pregnant by a white john who may or may not have also been a vampire. I think the point of that was so he'd have his powers from birth and not have to wait for Morbius to bite him to get it. The change in Bishop, though, not sure why they felt that was necessary.

It's possible that Bishop is now said to be Aboriginine to explain why his hair is so long and curly. Some say the Australian Aboriginine is not "Negroid". Neither is the Aboriginine considered to be European or Asian. This is another reason why some are trying to link Bishop and Storm together as "cousins". It fits with the idea of some that Storm is not black, but a little bit of "everybody".

Actually, I was referring to why his father has to be Austrailian, not his mother being Aborigine, cause after all his mother is probably Gateway's daughter (wasn't it revealed a while ago Gateway is Bishiop's grandfather)? Ah well.

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Black Panther / Re: Jenn vs. the fanbratti
« on: December 14, 2006, 09:25:49 am »
Remember: Black Panther isn't supposed to win many fights, not even barely by the skin of his teeth, and ESPECIALLY not in his own book.  ::)

EDIT: Just wanna add: if the fanboys think BC should be able to beat Sabretooth, but not BP, they're basically saying BC>BP in a physical fight, and...I think he'd beat HER just as easily, luck powers or not.

 :D You're exactly right on both counts.

Reading the fanfolk comments at times, it seems that if the Black Panther is successful in battle against anyone much stronger than Peter Parker's Aunt May, he isn't being portrayed accurately. He's "too strong".

Please, not only would Aunt May beat him, she'd make him wear a beanie propeller cap, eat one of her wheatcakes, AND make him watch her and Jarvis do the geriatric horizontal polka.
:D

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And yes, when some of those fanfolk complain how the Panther defeated Sabretooth so easily and then go on and on about how the Black Cat made minced meat of him, they are essentially saying that the Black Cat could and probably would defeat the Black Panther if the two ever fought. What. Her "bad luck" powers are going to make the Panther's habit malfunction or something?

Black Cat/"bad luck" powers. That sounds like something more suited to a child's Saturday Morning cartoon anyway. It's corny.  :)

What annoys me is that its okay for Captain America and Wolverine to continually beat people they shouldn't, but not BP. Heroes are supposed to win against impossible odds, that's what makes them heroes, that's what makes us want to read about them. Now if it was BP sucker punching Galactus and winning, yeah, I'd say that's not possible. But I'd say the same thing if Wolverine or Cap did it too. What's sad is...I don't think the "fanbratti" would.

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Black Panther / Re: Jenn vs. the fanbratti
« on: December 14, 2006, 09:15:06 am »
what i like is when they say that storm isn't black or african...she is somethin'...else.
a higher evolution greater than the common black or afican...
sad, really...

That actually makes sense in a f-ed up kind of way. They can't reconcile liking someone black so she MUST be something else besides or instead of black. I figure this is the same reason why both Bishop and now Blade are both half black (Bishop is actually half aboriginie half Austrailian I believe).

Bishop is half Aborigine and half Australitian?? huh?

dose that mean one of his parents is supposed to be white now?

How can that be...as Dark as He is  :o :o :o

Same thing I said about Blade, but...yeah. And assuming Blade's current mini is in continuity, yeah, he's mixed, too. According to that mini, his mom was a black prostitute in London who got pregnant by a white john who may or may not have also been a vampire. I think the point of that was so he'd have his powers from birth and not have to wait for Morbius to bite him to get it. The change in Bishop, though, not sure why they felt that was necessary.

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Black Panther / Re: Jenn vs. the fanbratti
« on: December 14, 2006, 07:38:10 am »
what i like is when they say that storm isn't black or african...she is somethin'...else.
a higher evolution greater than the common black or afican...
sad, really...

That actually makes sense in a f-ed up kind of way. They can't reconcile liking someone black so she MUST be something else besides or instead of black. I figure this is the same reason why both Bishop and now Blade are both half black (Bishop is actually half aboriginie half Austrailian I believe).

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Black Panther / Re: Jenn vs. the fanbratti
« on: December 14, 2006, 06:10:40 am »
Remember: Black Panther isn't supposed to win many fights, not even barely by the skin of his teeth, and ESPECIALLY not in his own book.  ::)

EDIT: Just wanna add: if the fanboys think BC should be able to beat Sabretooth, but not BP, they're basically saying BC>BP in a physical fight, and...I think he'd beat HER just as easily, luck powers or not.

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Even if people hate the book because it's bad, doesn't mean that other people don't like it.  Myself for instance.  I like the new Blue Beetle series, but I know that alot of people online despise it.  Do I care?  No.

What annoys me is this.

Fanboy: I don't like Panther.
Me: I like Panther
Fanboy: OMGWTFBBQ!!11 Only an IDIOT can like Panther! You justify yourself to me NOWNOWNOWRIGHTNOWNEGRONOW!!!111

Pretty much what brought me here, to avoid that. ;) Its either that or some version of "I don't like Panther, so you must think I'm racist. Hudlin does!"  ::)

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Latest Flicks / Re: Rocky 6
« on: December 11, 2006, 11:57:17 am »
Well on the bright side, about this time next year we'll be getting Rambo 4. He put Rambo 4's post production on hold to do Rocky 6, that's why its not coming out first. But I'm curious to see it, I think he could make two more Rambos.

And...make Tango and Cash into a trilogy.

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OH WAH WAH STORM N FORGE ARE two luv!!!!

GOD, the annual was so f*cking terrible. Thank God it doesn't add up in Hudlin's timeline, so as far as I'm concerned, it never happened. Let's not even talk about all that Storm/Forge caressing and kissing just to make the white people so happy. Oh, and Storm "tried to seduce a surfer boy"? Wow, looks like writers lie as much as fanboys do! And she was "damaged goods"? Again, THANK GOD for Reggie Hudlin. I'm so pissed off that I'm almost shaking. God, I'm a nerd.


Continuing to practice self-restraint here, so I won't say what I'd like about those whiny fanguy/gals posting their pathetic pap to the forum you've shared with us, Jenn. I will only say that it always does my heart good to read their stupid perceptions of the wreck Storm's "Forge involvement" was as compared to the beautiful and natural love relationship Storm now shares with the Panther. Yes. I love reading their bitter lamentations. Love it. I'd rub salt into their wounds if it were possible to do so  :)

I am fresh from another excursion to the CBR board. It was fun  :) My post total stands at a perfect "80" there now. As this is the case, it will likely be many a moon before I post again there. I like my "8'. I encountered a few "Hudlin-haters while there, one of whom paid me the supreme compliment by asking if I were "Reggie Hudlin". The same nitwit asked me - after I had suggested that as a well-traveled black man who was knowledeable of the different layers of "culture" and "expression" that exists within the African-American community, that Hudlin's "take" on Luke Cage was the most authentic to date - if Hudlin had any experience writing "royalty". The dope was probably attempting a criticism of Hudlin's writing of T'Challa. I was ignoring his posts at that point by not replying to his questions and statements. However, if I hadn't, I would have asked him, how much experience - if any, Stan Lee had writing "gods". I would have asked him and those other narrow-minded, knee-jerk Hudlin-haters, why the Norse gods and the Greek (Olympian) gods all sounded alike.

Those fanboys have a fit when Storm or T'Challa utter an African-American phrase...[it seems that above all else, those whiny fanboys/gals do NOT want Storm and T'Challa (Storm especially), interacting with or speaking like African Americans]...but it doesn't seem to bother them when a Greek god speaks in the exact same way as a Norwegian god.

Hypocrites.

You're right, Jenn. Thank goodness for Reginald Hudlin and his bold, effective, accurate and interesting portrayal of ALL of Marvel's black superheroes. Another "everybody" accused me of calling "everybody" racist.  :D "Everybody" is so predictable. So let them complain and lament Storm's marriage to the Panther. If Ororo was so in love with Forge, why did she attempt to stab him? I wish she had succeeded. And once again Jenn, let me take this opportunity to thank you for forewarning me about that X-Men Annual. That would have been one comicbook I'd have happily and quickly thrown into the trash if I'd purchased it.

Having seen the total "right-ness" between T'Challa and Ororo, viewing those illustrations of Forge with his arms and hands all over Ororo is enough to induce violent vomiting. I'd like to welcome the newest member to the HEF...I believe the name is "BPStorm4ever". The name is well-chosen and expresses my sentiments exactly for any RoLo, RoFo or mofo  :D, to see.


Apologies for not noticing this much earlier. Many thanks, as well as thanks to everyone for making me feel welcome. :)

And if I can respond to the rest of this post...Forge deserves Mystique. This...Xavier-lite wanted to have someone INVADE STORM'S MIND instead of waiting to see if she said yes or no. Still irks me to this day. So when he got with Mystique (they at least shared a kiss, not sure if they slept together), I wasn't surprised or shocked, and thought he deserved it. But then again, this was when he was using PAIN COLLARS to keep her and Sabretooth in check, too. Sounds like a controlling man to me, totally unworthy of Storm.

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Black Panther / Re: The Future of Black Panther and Storm?
« on: December 11, 2006, 11:17:48 am »
I don't get why BP and Storm can't be a Reed and Sue couple and stay together forever. 


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Storm is not a damn supporting character.  She's a queen now.  She can now do more for her people than she could with the X-Men.  Prof. Xavier said this his damn self. 

All I've been saying. She's not a supporting character, or some woman in waiting for a fanfic pairing either.
You said it a lot better and a lot simpler than I could have.  8)

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Black Panther / Re: What If? Priest continued writing Panther
« on: December 11, 2006, 10:25:31 am »
Quote from: supreme illuminati

Well said,well said.*daps BPSTORM4EVER*.But  iwanna see PRIEST do THE FALCON...

I was in a rush (probably shouldn't do this at work ;) ), and you got the gist of it anyway, but I think I still worded it wrong. Not IF it can be done, but SHOULD it be done at all. But you got it anyway. lol

And yeah, Priest on Falcon would be interesting. I'm curious as to his thoughts on the death of Goliath, too.

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Black Panther / Re: What If? Priest continued writing Panther
« on: December 11, 2006, 09:32:59 am »
I just found this at http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?t=19379.  This is from PRiest himself.

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As I mention in another thread, the logical progression for PANTHER would have been to turn him into a villain. To make Storm's prophecy come true and make him an enormous threat to the world.

Only to be redeemed in the end, of course.

The Once & Future King story had implications of this, including a bit I ripped off of Jack "King" Kirby's fabulous "Pact" from NEW GODS. King T'Challa has two kids, T'Charra and Faida (named after my friend, actress Oni Faida Lamphley: the woman shot in the head in the pilot episode of Homicide: Life On The Streets, and more recently seen as a spiteful police lieutenant on the CBS show Hack).

Faida was Malice's daughter (implying Malice is either now pregnant or has already given birth to T'Challa's daughter, something we were going to deal with in PANTHER), while T'Charra's parentage was not revealed (but, c'mon, who else could it be).

Had I continued on PANTHER, I would have explored the whole villain thing, married T'Challa off to Storm (it would not have worked out long-term, but it would help redeem Panther), and evolved the business of Panther's children (and the complex relationship between Ross and Monica).


So what are your thoughts on what could have been Panther?


Kinda disappointed and shocked Priest would have thought this up. I mean its working so well for Iron Man at the moment, right?

Its all about context...while he would have done the whole villain who becomes redeemed and a better hero in the long term, fandom would just remember him as that black dude who went evil. Heck they still refer to Ant Man as that wife beater, wouldn't it be 10 times worse for Black Panther?  The whole marriage thing is already like cutting on a light switch, reveals how some fans REALLY feel about Black Panther ("She married to that nobody???" seems to be prevelant to the haters), last thing they would have needed was some sort of confirmation with this storyline.

Glad it didn't happen.



From that perjspective,I can really see where you're coming from,BpStorm4ever,that argument makes a lotta sense.But i think that IM will pull out of this CIVIL WAR  thing alright,I do...BUT that's a whole different ballgame from the perspective of the majority White fans looking at BP,ya know? I think that you're right...the majority of fans would remember BP for being temporarily opposed to their most ardently supported heroes for the most part...and yeah,that would be fatal to BP because he's both a "fringe" character trying to go serously mainstream (during PRIEST's run) AND he's Black.

But these concerns are OUTSIDE of the story itself.These concerns are ANCILLARY to the story itself that PRIEST was plotting.That would have been a GOOD STORY...but your concerns I think would have probably been the damning and final issue.Which says alot about the demographics and tastes dominant in the comicbook readership...not about PRIEST'S writing ability or about BP.


You're right of course, and at least that takes away my "disappointed and shocked" aspect. :D But I'm still glad it didn't happen. Sometimes you gotta ask not if a story should be done, but should it. And Priest answered that question (or editoral) and thus it never happened.

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Black Panther / Re: Jenn vs. the fanbratti
« on: December 11, 2006, 09:28:50 am »
hey ppl I wrote a letter to the Black Panther editors about my
issues w/ storm's characterization. It was printed in BP # 22, u
can read my letter and the response below.


Wahwahwah! REGGIE HUDLIN IS TEH_SUKK!

I'm torn - part of me wants to write a rebuttal, but most of me doesn't want to bother because this dude is suuuuuuuuuch a tool (and I mean the tooliest tool that ever did tool). I mean, fanbratti to the MAX, you know? I rarely throw people's opinions out as "irrelevant", but in this case? Totally applies.

*edit* Who am I kidding? I am so handing this bitch his ass. What's a nice way of saying YOU ARE A GODDAMN IDIOT WHO DOESN'T KNOW HIS DICK FROM A HOT DOG?

*edit 2* So sad. I'm already finished. (hangs my head) I'm very doubtful of it being published since it's written in my usual style, but what's the usual length from the time an article is written to the time is is published? I assume we'll be talking about issue 22 in...27, roughly?


"I feel her role has been reduced to Black Panther's wife"

Being a wife is a reduction? Learned something new.

He claims he's a "fan", but I'm a fan, too. Always has been since her I knew she existed, since my dad handed me my first X-Men comic when I was like 5 or 6. Actually I think it was God Loves Man Kills. In any case, I'M a fan of Storm and don't feel she's been deferred in any way with this pairing. She's always seem to be the kind of person who observes, thinks, then reacts (though she does have her buttons which Marrow learned a while back), and this has not been betrayed in Hudlin's run. I mention this for the simple fact that she's been observing and learning through T'Challa since being a queen is new to her, she's trying to find her feet. Which is, you know, wise. Kinda stupid to act like you know everything when you don't. But the so-called "fans" of Storm don't get this, and think its the same as BP saying, "Woman, be seen not heard!" and...its not. I haven't detected a hint of that even. I worry we will maybe get that in the hands of another writer, you never know, but so far not in the hands of Hudlin.

I wish I could say that letter was at least entertaining, but its becoming the norm. Some fan says Hudlin's racist, then how they hate the union, how BP's nothing, then drop fanfaction about who they think Storm should be with. Broken record, DJ please change the song.

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