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Messages - KIP LEWIS

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NEVER use the Abrams universe to justify any position in Star Trek.  (At least that's my opinion and probably the opinion of many in fans.  I even liked the Abrams movies, but he tended to exaggerate a few characteristics and missed the point on others.)




I believe Abrams gave a refreshing perspective that was much needed considering that Kirk gets away with a lot of _____.
I mean, a lot!  :)

Mr. Abrams version of the Star Trek series is gorgeous (visually) and the stories captures issues in a context, nature & substance, for this day and age, what that Universe would look today that everyone can relate to.

In 'Star Trek: Into Darkness' we get to see Kirk in the middle of a ménage à trois...
---with alien chicks!

How many times anyone wanted to see that? 




While I do like a lot of the action and comedic interplay, as well as glimpses into the youthful pasts of characters that I see in the Abrams universe? The criticism that KIP just dropped is also my criticism.






Supreme gets it. 



I think?  ???

Like I said, I liked the Abramsverse movie, but my point is shouldn't use it to make a comment about ST.  Especially since I specifically was referring to how 40s through 70s American fiction viewed intelligence, so obviously I'm talking about the orginally series in the context of how the 60s viewed Spock and Kirk.  Spock was the smart one bc he was the scientist.

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Black Panther / Re: LET'S TALK T'CHALLA'S IQ VS 616 EARTH BIG BRAINS
« on: April 30, 2019, 04:48:38 am »
I actually DO think that Kirk is a tactical genius, although I see where you're coming from above, Brother Battle. Imo? Kirk displayed his tactical genius on NUMEROUS occasions. Kirk outstmarting and outmaneuvering Khan, Kirk is the only one to beat the Kobayashi Maru test, Kirk saw through many illusions and shams, tricks and manipulations attempted by many alien and human adversaries.  Imo Kirk is both a straight up genius AND a tactical genius. But that's just imo. Because in the old skool FASA role playing game? Kirk's intelligence was 84, the average human INT was 40, the average Starfleet Officer's INT was 71. So Kirk is clearly far smarter than the average human and smarter than the most Starfleet Officers, too. The max human INT was 100, so Kirk was up there.

Spock's INT was 102. Just to make the point.

But Kirk has Charisma of 94 and Luck of 98. Sooo...Kirk? Would be clearly the overall superior leader between himself and Spock. That's why, imo, Spock followed Kirk. Not that other way around.






O.K...

I was going by the dialogue from 'Star Trek: Into Darkness' where Kirk is getting chewed out by his superior officer.

Everything that officer was telling Kirk about himself was true.

--- but, if you're going by that metric you posted, I can't argue with that.  :-\

Regarding Vulcans?  I believe Vulcans are intellectually far superior than Humans (they discovered warp tech before Humans did), but what holds them back are decisions determined by logic.  I believe the reasoning behind Spock following Kirk is to understand his uncanny knack for being lucky... all the time.  :-\


NEVER use the Abrams universe to justify any position in Star Trek.  (At least that's my opinion and probably the opinion of many in fans.  I even liked the Abrams movies, but he tended to exaggerate a few characteristics and missed the point on others.)

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Black Panther / Re: LET'S TALK T'CHALLA'S IQ VS 616 EARTH BIG BRAINS
« on: April 29, 2019, 04:54:59 am »
Regarding the different kinds of intelligence--I agree, is a much broader category than people tend to think--one does have to keep in mind that the statement of Marvel's smartest is a product of the 40s to 70s US culture, more than even Western Culture and the idea of that science is the end all and be all of life.  Scientists were always the ones in control in American fiction.  At that time, intelligence was pretty much limited to Scientific Smarts.  From Doc Savage to Lex Luthor--intelligence was pretty much defined as scientific knowledge.  Other forms of intelligence are given different names.  Look at Star Trek.  Spock is called the smart one--he's the science officer, but Kirk is a tactical genius.  He's extremely intelligent too, but he's never viewed as intelligent. 

I think it's like the word love.  In English we have one word for it; the Greeks have (i think) five different words for it, for example, one for sex and another for brotherly love.  For other kinds of intelligence, they used different descriptors.

Another way to look at it comparing it to strength.  Nobody ever calls a fast runner--a strong man, but he or she is strong.  It's just a different set of muscles than a weight lifter.

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Black Panther / Re: LET'S TALK T'CHALLA'S IQ VS 616 EARTH BIG BRAINS
« on: April 28, 2019, 06:39:46 am »
I would say that in Priest book, it was Tchalla who upgraded Wakanda to the 21st century, I would credit nearly all of the advancements we see in Priest BP as evidence of T'Challas genius. N'yami motherships, doomsday Panthers, his standard gear. Etc Iwould give credit to T'Challa.

Hudlin makes it trickier for sure by advancing Wakanda as a 10k unconquered power House that's been ahead since day one. That could of been mitigated better by having T'Challa advance Wakanda further them any other Black panther prior, such as a century jump ahead the likes of which we see advanced alien races taking note of earth, specifically Wakanda and noting that Wakanda will be responsible for Earth catching up to those civilizations technology and how Wakanda is maybe a century behind if that.

Thats what I would do if I were writing BP. I wouldn't necessarily need to say Tchalla is the smartest at any given field, but I would make him a jack of all trades master of none type that can fit into multiple categories of super genius, but isn't necessarily number 1 in them but can easily keep up with said characters. HOWEVER, he would be the shrewdest man alive for sure and the most underestimated man alive which would be due to being the most ingenuitive person on earth.


Hudlin's change made it trickier for a reason that is often overlook.  He changed T'Challa's starting point.  Now, his intellect is the product of the best educational system and resources on earth (and even in some places, beyond earth), rather than being self-taught, seeking education in real world options.   Compare that to Dr. Doom who lived as a nomad, had no real formal education, no resources, no good teachers.  He's completely self-taught.  For Doom to end up in the same league as T'Challa (not even having to ahead of T'challa), means he's actually might be smarter.  How far would Doom be if he had T'Challa's upbringing?

BTW, at least one of Marvel's writers of the Fantastic Four says Doom is smarter than Reed.  Marvel villains are supposed to be ahead of the heroes.  (It's his arrogance that undoes him, not Reed's superior intellect.)

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So I was wondering, since I haven't read any of it; if this wasn't T'challa and Wakanda, would this be a good story?

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I thought T'Challa was supposed to be in War of the Realms--he was on a cover--but this outer space storyline isn't ending any time soon.

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>>>kip lewis



Who's we?  ???

anyone writing and reading this thread. 

It feels like a misnamed thread.  I read the title, I think the topic is the comic book, not the movie.

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Killmonger and his Wakandan empire would have had to fight the MCU world. That's world militaries, plus Tony Stark, Captain America, Hulk, Thor, SHIELD, Doctor Strange and other mystics, Scarlet Witch, and Bast knows how many other superpowered individuals are out there. Even if he was able to beat them all, at what cost? How many Wakandans and black people would have had to die? How many innocent lives would have been caught in the crossfire? How much damage and loss of property would have been caused? Of course, Killmonger didn't think about that because like most colonizers, he is far more concerned about his own personal vendetta and carving his name in the sands of time to say he did it.





This possibility came to mind, as well.

Had Killmonger & the Wakandan Empire launched their attack, the Avengers probably would have intervened.   
Were the Avengers active during this time?  I seem to recall that the Avengers were going through a few internal problems of their own.
SHIELD was also infiltrated, too, by HYDRA, so they would not have been much help, either.


Killmonger had a few advantages in his favor:

1.  The element of surprise.

2. The element of overwhelming firepower.

3. Hidden headquarters & base of operation.

4. He had spies everywhere.





The whole incident would've been a mess, however, I believe Killmonger had the upper hand in the conflict.

Actually, Killmonger would have just made it easier for Thanos and his snap and whatever advantage he might had will be gone the minute that snap happens along with possibly Killmonger himself.

BTW, why are we talking about the movie in this thread on the Intergalatic Empire of Wakanda?

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Latest Flicks / Re: John Wick:Chapter 3
« on: March 22, 2019, 06:32:44 am »
I've never seen these films yet, but the this new trailer has me intrigued. So he's just a super-skilled hitman?

I see this movie has Lawrence Fishburne, so looks like "Neo & Morpheus" return, hmm..

Super-skilled hitman......

hmmm, how about--he's the guy the Grim Reaper is afraid of.

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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther in War of the Realm
« on: March 14, 2019, 04:30:09 am »
This current arc is better than the first. Avenger "No Road Home" is better though. I've never read much Blade, but its close to Wesely. Tchalla has been having a few baller moments. I had reservations about Agents of Wakanda, but Aaron has made it work. Okoye leads the organization.

what's no road home about?

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Black Panther / Re: Black Panther in War of the Realm
« on: March 12, 2019, 04:44:58 am »
i want to know who or what are they "riding"!

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Black Panther / Black Panther in War of the Realm
« on: March 11, 2019, 06:06:55 pm »
Looks like BP is going to be a major factor in War of the Realms.   Someone else post the cover.  I can't post art.

https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/the-beginning-of-the-end-the-war-of-the-realms-5-cover-revealed

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So, how much time has passed between the final two episodes of this season?

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Latest Flicks / Re: ALITA
« on: February 18, 2019, 02:01:53 pm »
I enjoyed it.

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How many more episodes this season?

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