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Black Panther / Re: Ta-Nehisi Coates to write Black Panther.
« on: September 23, 2015, 01:51:33 pm »
I have already gone on other sites where this news broke, to voice my hesitancy with this news. First off, I am not aware of any drama related fictional work Coates has done. He gets applauded by for his book, "Between the World and Me" and gets a plug from John Stewart and all of a sudden he's the go to guy for the plight of Black America for liberals. I think its good his work is getting exposure among people other than black, but the man is essentially a writer for a news paper. What about the black comic book writers with experience in the genre who are already out there? It just seems like Marvel is trying to appease the critics of its lack of diversity in it's writing staff for BP and other comic title characters of color. Besides, no offense intended, but didn't they kind of do that by approaching Reggie back when? Now you saw how the fanboys reacted to Hudlin's "pro-black" T'Challa series. We've all seen how they have deconstructed his work over the years. How in the world do you think they are going to react to Coates? Then again, Coates doesn't mention Hudlin or Priest but is giving props to Hickman (to which most of us here have serious issues with) in the article. Maybe its even more dubious that Marvel picked T. Coates to write the book afterall.

Latest Flicks / Re: Star Wars 7 Announced for 2015
« on: August 17, 2015, 11:52:54 am »
Abrams is doing what he did with the "new" Star Trek. The reboot consisted of a parallel universe created so that they could tell all new stories without worrying about all the canon on film and in books. Is the old Trek universe wiped out? Probably not, in fact the Abrams and the creators waffle back and forth as to whether it was or wasn't though they initially said it wasn't. In fact, the books that come out still take place in the old star Trek universe like Abram's Trek is off in its own universe off panel. The 'reboot" series really hasn't taken a hold of the literary fan base at all. For Star Wars, sounds like they are saying the 30 years of canon was still there, but act like it isn't. But you can't just blame them. Even before Disney, Lucas Entertainment did somethings that would go against what the books laid out. The Clone Wars Animated series did it alot to which the producers would just give the line of that everything created, due to fandom, was in the Star Wars universe. However, anyone with a logical brain realizes that makes no sense and can't be true. I guess will have to wait and see when the movie comes out.

Well argued Ezyo!  The gist of the debate with SI was most succinctly summed up by Ture as follows:

It's not chess it's poker and Hickman's poker face got you shooked. The game is over, you should have folded long ago. I repeat, it not just about the ending, it is also, maybe  even more so, about how the Black Panther got here. Your primary focus is the end result while mine is the path that brought us to this point.

SI, this is the piece you just don't seem to get?  Suggesting instead that making T'Challa a credible and competent A-lister required first diminishing him to the status of an overconfident blowhard, unable to follow through on his promises, plans or responsibilities.  This makes no sense!  New readers unfamiliar with the character will see him as incompetent, at best supporting cast while LCBRD detractors will be thankful he's been put in his place. 

You couldn't be any more pro-Hickman if you were Hickman himself.  To point out that Wakanda still exists as evidence of Hickman's benevolence/T'Challa's resurgence when Hickman has established that very little of it remains and Doom is the one Wakandans have to thank for saving that much, shows you don't or don't want to get it.

That which Hickman has done to this point, over 3+ years of storytelling, cannot be attributed to any resurgence "our" T'Challa might make post Secret Wars.  Yes, he's allowed him to survive, albeit to the character's detriment, but in comics death is easily and often remedied.  Perhaps more easily than mischaracterization.  Let's hope Ewing and whoever else writes T'Challa next can overcome the damage done by Hickman?


I Cosign, Ezyo. I keep wondering why S.I. has been so supportive of Hickman in the face of the shame that writer has heaped on the BP character. Seriously, I just don't get it. I can understand keeping a sense of hope that somehow T'Challa is redeemed, but to place that hope in Hickman when he has proven his apathy to the character just makes no sense. Continuing to believe you will receive a different result when the same result keeps happening seems put it politely, not being honest with oneself. Eventually you have to accept the reality of the situation. when someone (Hickman) continues doing something year after year, when do you finally call them out for what they are doing? Marvel Editorial is to blame too, but you can only blame them so far.

I have the entire run, minus one issue, too. I also will hold my cynicism . Though I think after whats happened with the writers since Hudlin left, it should be understandable. Let's see who they pick to write it before we all start poppin' bottles and celebrating.

Milestone Media / Re: WELCOME BACK!!!
« on: July 24, 2015, 12:00:05 am »
Congratulations, Reggie. I'm really excited to hear about the Milestone operation coming back.

for those who missed it...

Whoa! With the long quotes of S.I.'s comments, I actually missed this the first time I saw the post! I was actually at that event at Golden Apple in Los Angeles that is talked about in the article. I met Reggie, Ziggy and others at the event. It was nice to see the crowd of supporters but it was especially nice as it was somewhat a memorial to Dwayne McDuffie. It was that event that only made me more angry at DC for their hiding away the Milestone characters and treatment of  Dwayne shortly before his death. After dumping McDuffie from writing JLA (where he introduced his characters to the larger DC audience) as well as other DC titles, like Firestorm. Anyway, it is good to hear Hudlin and Cowan striking Milestone back up. I am anxious to see what comes of it.

I know I don't speak up on this forum much. But, I do follow the debates between Supreme I., Mont , Battle. Kimoyo, Ture, Salustrade and others. For the record, I agree mainly with the later participants though. In fact, since Doomwar (and to an extent Pre-Doomwar), I have been disgusted with the depiction of T'Challa. No ofense, S.I.. I understand you don't want to give up hope that BP is somehow gonna turn out fine under Marvel Editorial and Hickman's pen, but after all this time, I just don't see it.  I admire your desire to fight the good fight. Part of me wants to keep hope alive too, but honestly Hickman and Mayberry before him have tried their damnest to take BP and "put him in his place" since Hudlin left. The X Office is also guilty, but Hickman has a special place in history for what he has done. I mean when he was quoted as giving "whiny Namor and BP fans what they want" (which he didn't really) in an upcoming scene, that was pretty much the proof of his true feelings of the character, in my mind. I don't want to believe that a writer, who is not black, can really appreciate and overcome conscious or unconscious tendencies to downplay a strong black male character and give substantial support, but Marvel ,and DC for that matter, have shown very little evidence to that. Perhaps it is to continue to play to the often racist fanboy desires we see on CBR and other mainstream comic forums, but you would think that whoever is in charge would finally open their hearts and minds and realize that to bring in more PoC readers you have to create and sustain strong characters of color, be they male or female. It's 2015 and they still don't get it...or worse they get it but they don't want to change.

Black Panther / Re: Hickman's Epic: A somewhat different perspective
« on: July 22, 2015, 01:15:51 pm »
LOL. Yes, it has.

Other Comics / Re: So what's up with Blue Marvel?
« on: July 08, 2015, 04:32:36 pm »
Ah. Thanks for the info. I was afraid Marvel was trying to find a clever way to get rid of Grevioux's character for the MCU with this Secret Wars reboot. Interesting team up. Three of the arguably most powerful characters in the MCU, BM, Photon, Captain Marvel and Galactus along with a T'Challa the super genius (if you ignore the crap Mayberry and Hickman wrote) on a Avengers team. I'm intrigued.

I wonder what's up with Adam's new costume. Hopefully he wasn't' "dummed down" or anything.

Other Comics / So what's up with Blue Marvel?
« on: July 01, 2015, 12:37:20 pm »
I know BM was kind of stuck over on Luke Cage's Avengers team for awhile and had some lackluster appearances. What happened at he the beginning (The end of 616?) of Secret Wars with him and any rumors if he is going to be around in this "new" universe of Marvel's?

Black Panther / Re: Hickman's Epic: A somewhat different perspective
« on: April 01, 2015, 01:36:16 pm »
The caping for Hickman I see here by some, totally nauseates me.
Yeah, +1    :(

Hudlin TV / Re: Marvel's Agents of Shield
« on: February 18, 2015, 03:33:57 pm »
Okay, Mack may still be around but he has been "neutered" for the time being. Also, as I initially alluded, there were two black male characters (in a cast with several more non-black characters) on a prime time TV show and as per usual Hollywood practice one of them had to die (written off).

Hudlin TV / Re: Marvel's Agents of Shield
« on: February 11, 2015, 12:22:57 pm »
So is it me or has anybody else noticed how they brought two black male characters onto the show and then essentially killed them off?  Guess I should have expected that, huh? >:(

Latest Flicks / Re: Johnny Depp as DOCTOR STRANGE!?! Say it isn't so!
« on: November 05, 2014, 01:05:33 pm »
If anything Cumberbatch is a safer choice than Johnny Depp or Keannu Reeves would have been. The man
has been in, like, everything lately that nerds care about. Sherlock Holmes, Kahn and the voice of Smaug.

For all the rumormongering that was going around about the role, it looks like Marvel never even asked either Depp OR Reeves ( when asked directly Reeves semed to have little idea of  what Dr. Strange even was) about it.

Not real surprising.

They would have had to pay those guys damn near RJD money for them to take the role.
For the record, as a pseudo-nerd, I was never cool with him being Khan (or the whole damn plot of ST:Into Darkness for that matter), but I get your point.  ;)

« on: September 30, 2014, 02:29:32 pm »
"...according to a recent survey, 75% of white Americans have zero black American friends."

This was the most startling claim in the article. I almost don't want to believe it in this day and age, but then what can explain the disparity in how whites and blacks think about racism, policing black neighborhoods and other related events that are going on right now? SMH  :-\

Vox Populi / Re: St. Louis Hef Members
« on: August 20, 2014, 12:03:26 pm »
All eyez are on the county courthouse of Ferguson, Missouri as Attorney General Holder visits this aggravated town today to conduct his own 'investigation' of the matter.

This should be an eventful day.

EDIT:   Hey, Rapper Talib Kweli even appeared to protest and report what's happening on the ground in Ferguson, Missouri.  I have a lot more respect for him now.  :)
Nelly showed up too. But, then he's from the St. Louis area right?

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