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As far as Jessica...why is she drawn as ugly? She's either ALWAYS drawn as homely or just buttrageous. Heck some issues she looks like Rachel Dratch from Saturday Night Live.

Heck. Art kinda imitates life here. How many times you seen a brotha with a girl of another ethnicity who is butt ugly or at least no beauty queen? there might actually be a couple of attractive sistas around but the guy chooses the other. I understand the whole "love has no color" theme and all but damn! I could never understand that about some brothas. Beyonce' or Bigfoot? They somehow end up with Bigfoot.

Makes me shake my head in confusion at times.... :)

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Man! I loved this discussion! Thank you Supreme Illness and others for bringing the knowledge and slapping love....Uh...well craft down because of some of the inane things he was spouting. Can't completely blame him though. As you all I'm sure are aware he is saying the same things we have heard from other folks of different hues who don't like the idea of a complete Eurocentric foundation of civilization shook.

You all reminded me about some of the books I read in throughout college and still have in my current collection. I had to go dust off my copy of "Destruction of the Black Civilization" from Williams after you all started citing it. ;)

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Black Panther / Re: BP & Storm NOT members of the FF
« on: January 10, 2007, 11:55:20 am »
Whoa! hold on there a minute pardners. I saw this picture on the Marvel site but along with it was the caveat,"or is it this bunch..." with regards to who the new FF would be. They showed a Mike Turner variant of the Thing, Human Torch, BP and Storm. Check ou tthis link and see the pic:

http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.791

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Another factor to consider is that Priest and Hudlin depict Wakanda with "westernized" influence to reach black readers on a certain level. Do you remember in the Priest run when Queen Divine Justice first came to Wakanda? Do you remember the awe and humility she felt to see an all black nation, even though it was in Africa, have all the amenities and structure she was used to seeing in European countries and in the U.S.? I really loved that part in that it reminded me of at risk, inner city kids who had never seen anything about Africa except on what TV shows show them and then they get to go on a trip to Africa and see some of the countries there that
are just as modern as the U.S.. Those kids and some African American travelers in general, seemed to be amazed, humbled and even touched on level they never knew could happen because they saw with their own eyes that black people can and do run countries that can reach the same significance as where they live.

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Maybe the fact that Hudlin finally had the DM do something of import in an issue, such as beatdown the BW, means that we WILL start seeing more interaction with them in the stories.

BTW, is anyone forgetting here that the DM aren't supposed to talk to anyone else BUT T'Challa and even then in Wakandan. Priest set those parameters up when he created them. Of course, that didn't stop him from developing those characters and allowing them to interact in his stories. Now, to be fair to the fanboys I have to point out that Hudlin wroyte one of them speaking to an unwanted suitor at the club he met Cage in the "Bad Mutha" arc so we can't be sure what the DMs protocol is.

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Black Panther / Re: Just got done watching ultimate avengers 2, thoughts?
« on: January 10, 2007, 03:52:35 am »
Okay, this discussion is a just like another brought up earlier. I understand I am a newbie here and this reply is waayy late, but what are you guys talking about??  That movie's depiction of BP and Wakanda was not very complimentary. You can say all you want about the vibranium tip spears and shields, but the representation was still this backward, primitive culture that is supposed to be one of if not the MOST technological on the planet and they were using spears against the aliens and Avengers who were routing them. Even if it wasn't meant to be that way that is how to many saw it. If you go with some of the explanations of shields that can withstand the alien weapons and the African garb being ceremonial or whatever, it still came across as a "Tarzan" like image of Africa when not even the poorest country in Africa has a military that doesn't use modern weapons with it's soldiers. Now, if the movie had shown a mixture of Wakanda's soldiers, some with shields and spears and others dressed and using modern or futuristic equipment (like Priest did in his comic series on occasion), I would have been more accepting.

And let's go deeper...A few of you said you were glad to at least see you favorite character depicted in this movie. But they depicted him pretty weak (with a weak a@# costume) and couldn't win a fight against anyone with out help. Isn't this one of the very underlying issues that many of us believe that some fanboys are angry with Hudlin's BP because he is strong, smart and kicks butt? That Wakanda is technologically advance? In the final battle with the alien leader BP had to have Cap's help and even then he turned into some half panther monster to do it. And let's not forget that when Cap and BP first met Cap beats him up, throws him out a window and down a building and was about to continue whipping is a@# until Nick Fury showed up and stopped him. You didn't see any of the strategist, cunning warrior, super intelligent hero that even Jack Kirby showed back in the day, forgetting how even HE depicted Wakanda as a whole. Even if he was young and new to the BP mantle, T'Challa was still suppose to have gone through the ritual of besting the best fighters in Wakanda and then journey to fiind the heart shape herb. But then again, in this Ultimate "re-imagining" none of that may even apply. Shame!

I understand what some of you are talking about that blacks should not be turned off by certain aspects of African culture, such as the spear and African dress. Hey, I am a big proponent of that myself so I agree with you on that. But I don't  believe that completely applies here and I don't believe the creators of the Ultimate Avengers 2 story (none who happened to be of African descent) were thinking about that when they put out that movie. This point of view does not mean that I or any of the other concerned viewers of that movie are self-loathing of our African heritage (shame on the one who posted his friends comments that said that) and it is extremely insulting to say so. If anything many of the posters of African descent on this board have shown to be somewhat cognizant on relevant social and some historical issues with the African Diaspora.

Finally, I went to the Ultimate Avengers 2 site when that movie came out to list my concerns after viewing it. When I saw the page there were several posts, all of them expressing the same criticisms. Unfortunately, when I tried to add my comments, the site would not accept any further submissions even though there were only three or four listed! I'm not saying the moderator shut down the visitor submission, but I have to admit it sure did seem too coincidental. :-\

With all that said, for those of you who liked the movie and had no problem with the spear chuckers  :), Great! That is the case with anything as we have all seen with the heated debates between the Hudlin BP fans and the Marvel fanboys. So I respect your views though I don't agree with them.

Just my two piece and a biscuit.

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General Discussion / Re: the Hudlin 100...
« on: January 10, 2007, 02:58:04 am »
I have been checking up on this "Hudlin 100" looking at esther and Addicted 2 Amber and all I can say is.....

SWEET CHRISTMAS!!!!! GOOD LAWD ALMIGHTY!!!!!! :o

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Black Panther / Re: Voice your Opinion "SMALL WORLD!!!"
« on: January 10, 2007, 02:13:11 am »
Whoa!! I understand I am a newbie here and this reply is waayy late, but what are you guys talking about ???? I agree with Jakuta. That movie's depiction of BP and Wakanda was WHACK!!! You can say all you want about the vibranium tip spears and all that, but the representation was still this backward, primitive culture that is supposed to be one, of if not the MOST, technological on the planet and they were using spears against aliens and Ult Avengers who were routing them. If you go with some of the explanations of shields that can withstand the alien weapons and the African garb being ceremonial or whatever, it still came across as a "Tarzan" like image of Africa when not even the poorest country in Africa has a military that doesn't use modern weapons with it's soldiers. Now, if the movie had shown a mix of Wakanda's soldiers, some with shields and spears and others dressed and using modern or futuristic equipment (like Priest did in his comic series on occasion), I wouldn't have found the movie insulting.

And let's go deeper...A few of you said you were glad to at least see you favorite character depicted in this movie. But they depicted him pretty weak (with a weak a@# older costume) and couldn't win a fight against anyone with out help. Isn't this one of the very underlying issues that many of us believe that some fanboys are angry with Hudlin's BP because he is strong, smart and kicks butt? Shoot! in the final battle with the alien leader he had to have Cap's help and even then he turned into some half panther monster to do it. And let's not forget that when Cap and BP first met Cap beats him up, throws him out a window and down a building and was about to continue whipping is a@# until Nick Fury showed up and stopped him. You didn't see any of the strategist, cunning warrior, super intelligent hero that even Jack Kirby showed back in the day, forgetting how even HE depicted Wakanda as a whole.

I understand what you are talking about that blacks should not be turned off by certain aspects of African culture, such as the spear. Hey, I am a big proponent of that myself. But I don't believe that applies here and I don't believe the creators of the Ultimate Avengers 2 story (none who happened to be of African descent) were thinking about that when they put out that movie.

Finally, I went to the Ultimate Avengers 2 site when that movie came out to list my concerns there. When I saw the page their were seceral posts, all of them expressing the same criticisms I and Jakuta had. Unfortunately, when I tried to add my comments the site would not accept any further submissions even though there were only three or four listed! I'm not saying the moderator shut down the visitor submission, but I have to admit it sure did seem too coincidental.

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Black Panther / Re: The Mighty Black Avengers.
« on: January 10, 2007, 01:02:24 am »
Okay , I know this is Waaaayyy late but with all this talk about a "Mighty Black Avengers", have any of you seen this artwork put out about the "Brotherhood"? When this was released on a few other discussion boards folks got HYPED! Unfortunately it is just a concept but it is intriguing nonetheless. Check it out:

http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=16781
http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=15267
http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=15066
http://www.almondink.com/gallery/brotherhood.html
http://www.almondink.com/gallery/brotherhood1.html
http://www.almondink.com/gallery/pham.html (scroll down)
http://www.almondink.com/gallery/brotherhood2.html


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