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Shuri's is one of the most important contributions not only to the Black Panther franchise but the comic book industry itself; as such, her creation should not be called into question. It wasn't Shuri who took anything from Tchalla, it was Maberry, Arron, Hickman and if I'm being honest Hudlin.
 
Shuri is unique among so called black characters. Unlike Storm who was created to be a so-called minority character, designed to help diversify a predominately white male team while simultaneously morphing into a white fanboy's fetish symbol; Shuri represented a sovereign cultural integrity exemplified by royal familial bonds that gave Afrakan women and girls a heroine to identify with.

Unfortunately Ororo was a cultural time bomb ready for detonation the moment she came in proximity to any other Afrakan (so called Black). Reggie's attempts to defuse Storm were undermined once he stopped writing her. However it was under Hudlin (and the artists with him during much of his tenure) that Shuri  (and the re-imaged Dora Milaje) helped to redefine and promote an often under valued aesthetic.  Shuri came to epitomize not only the warrior but responsible ruler-ship, a true Black Panther.

For all the lip service paid to such concepts as diversity and so called minority representation it seems natural to have a Shuri, Queen Divine Justice and Dora Milaje as much as a Ororo, Monet St Croix and a Misty Knight.

Thus a more credible argument would be structured around the lack of detail in outlining Wakandan ascendancy to the throne and the consistency in maintaining such. A broader approach to that argument would be the fleshing out of the entirety of Wakandan society and culture.

Shuri is just a retcon that undermined T'Challa in every possible way. Dark meat for the Wolverine to feast upon. Don't delude yourself.

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Latest Flicks / Re: Batman v Superman
« on: April 27, 2015, 10:57:12 am »
The thing is Singer's Superman's return was boring as hell.


Always consider the source.  :)
The source is top notch sci fi material. How can someone turn it into guy stalks girl and her new boyfriend is beyond me.



Like RedJack said...
--- singer doesn't understand the character.

That's not the reason the movie sucked. It was due to Singer infatuation with the Donner's movies. Returns is take by take a remake of Superman the movie. Scenes and dialogues are virtually copy/pasted from film to film. Sheere unoriginality that's what killed SR

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Hard Choices / Re: Dr. Doom or Darth Vader?
« on: April 27, 2015, 10:52:10 am »
Doom learned stuff but he was always in the dark side. At no moment there was a change of mentality or serendipity he is always been what he is. An egomaniac.

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Hard Choices / Re: Dr. Doom or Darth Vader?
« on: April 27, 2015, 10:17:26 am »
Doom never turned. He was always like that.

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Shuri's very existence is an affront to the true Black Panther: T'Challa. It should have been T'Challa doing all those things not Shuri. I hope she stays dead so we can finally have the true Black Panther without crappy substitutes.




Shuri hasn't done a thing to hamper the Black Panther franchise.


Other than been at the forefront and taking the name of the Black Panther.



By the way is not misogyny is just that I don't like her character. She is not T'Challa. Had they replaced T'Challa with a man it would be the same for me: Crap. I didn't like it when Christopher Priest did it back then and didn't like it later on when they shoved Shuri into continuity out of nowhere.

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Latest Flicks / Re: Batman v Superman
« on: April 27, 2015, 10:06:55 am »
The thing is Singer's Superman's return was boring as hell.


Always consider the source.  :)
The source is top notch sci fi material. How can someone turn it into guy stalks girl and her new boyfriend is beyond me.

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Latest Flicks / Re: Batman v Superman
« on: April 27, 2015, 10:05:26 am »
I think both films were created by people who absolutely failed to understand Superman. While Superman Returns was a bad Superman film, it tried hard to actually be a Superman film. It failed, yes, but it was absolutely trying to be a Superman movie.


Man of Steel is not a Superman film. The people behind it do not understand Superman and the same people are behind Batman v Superman. It will be crappy in precisely the same way as MoS.  The entire point of pairing the two characters is that they are opposites.


Both Batman and Superman in the Snyder-verse are basically the same person, i.e. men with tragic pasts with broken psyches (Batman by rage, Kal by fear) who can't solve any of their problems without murdering their opponents.


While a soft case can be made for Batman being little more than a crazy vigilante (although why anyone wants to see that is beyond me) a fearful Superman, one who can't outthink his villains is not Superman.

We haven't seen this version of Batman in action yet so how could you possibly know Batman has killed anyone in this iteration of the character? Tim Burton's Batman bombed factories with people inside. Nolan's Batman allowed a man to die in a trainwreck. Superman back in the 30's killed criminals or allowed them to die. In comics John Byrne Superman summarly executed General Zod by exposing him and his cronies to lethal kryptonite radiation. Years later, that same Superman fought and killed the creature known as Doomsday. (Lots of people died during that fight because the monster just like Zod and the kryptonians in MOS refused to fight away from populated areas) Killing is part of the legend on this characters. In MOS Superman killed Zod as a last resort after every other possible way to stop him was exhausted. If you think that Superman is all about smiling to the camera and downing cats from tree branches it is you who doesn't know anything about Superman. Snyder had the balls to pit Superman against enemies that wouldn't simply stand there talking while he flew someone away from danger.

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Hard Choices / Re: Dr. Doom or Darth Vader?
« on: April 25, 2015, 08:27:37 pm »
Your feeble minded tricks represent no challenge for Doom

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Hard Choices / Re: Black Vulcan or Apache Chief?
« on: April 25, 2015, 08:25:08 pm »
As lil kid growing up in Venezuela in the 1980's I never felt embarrassed by Black Vulcan. He was my favorite super friend. He had cool electric powers. Apache chief was awesome too. I particularly loved the episode in which friends from his tribe were shown and they also had powers. One of them could turn into a eagle.

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Latest Flicks / Re: Batman v Superman
« on: April 25, 2015, 08:17:43 pm »
The thing is Singer's Superman's return was boring as hell. MOS despite its so called flaws was highly entertaining. Finally Superman doing super stuff rather than just lifting things and stalking Lois. By the way that was just a teaser trailer. The first one. The movie is almost a year away. Let's first see an actual trailer before condemning a movie yet to be released.

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Latest Flicks / Re: Hancock
« on: April 25, 2015, 08:12:20 pm »
I won't say the movie is anti-black. Hancock looked like a black man but was actually some sort of god. And the reason they couldn't be together had nothing to do with race but with the nature of their powers. Hancock's alcoholism? Not related to him been black but to him having no memory of his past and his inability to have sex without killing women.


PS: Still waiting for the sequel. Don't think it will ever come though.

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Aw, Francisco, you have no idea the hornet's nest you've just stirred.

Just telling it like it is. T'Challa should've never been replaced as the Black Panther. He doesn't need siblings. The only one who worked well for the mythos was the White Wolf due the dynamic of their relationship.

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Shuri's very existence is an affront to the true Black Panther: T'Challa. It should have been T'Challa doing all those things not Shuri. I hope she stays dead so we can finally have the true Black Panther without crappy substitutes.

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Yeah because a more marketable character is available and it is the top dog A Lister at Marvel and the biggest cash cow in the stable of Disney's new acquisitions. I'm talking about Spiderman, baby!! T'Challa just can't compete at that level. T'Challa is not an A-lister and thanks to how the game is played he will never be. Well he may have a chance once his movie is released but then again as long as the writers keep jobbing him to prop other characters...

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Black Panther / Re: The Black Panther Movie!!!
« on: April 09, 2015, 01:35:17 pm »
Much as I like Ernie Hudson, he doesn't scream "warrior king" to me.
He was a badass in that Congo movie back in the middle 90's.

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