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Black Panther / Black Panthr and Storm set to move and Family will grow.
« on: December 09, 2006, 06:46:57 am »
Found this over at the rama. Axel dropped a little spoiler for our favorite two heroes in the Marvel U. This sounds intriguing like the long rumored Black Panther and Storm joining the Fantastic Four, one thing though it would be nice to get a spoiler or two over here for a change. Would be great for board pub and since we represent the hardest for the Black Panther over here it would be appreciated to. The interview, if you don't want to read all the other stuff the spoiler is at the bottom.

General Discussion / Tony Jaa.. M/A break it down and discuss.
« on: December 06, 2006, 05:40:59 pm »
My boy showed me this movie. Omg this movie showed the best exhibition of martial arts ever! I had to find this for you fighters on the board. Jenn, sam, reg and supreme. Break this down for me, no explain this to me :o

Black Panther / Positive Review of BP #22
« on: December 01, 2006, 09:44:11 am »
Taken from Avengers forever. Amazing to see a comic reviewer actually review the book impartially as opposed to just writing opinions on issues not related to the book.
Black Panther #22
By Nick Marino

The World Tour story arc concludes as T’Challa and Ororo put in their final visits with members of the world hero community. Not only did last issue’s meeting with Namor generate big buzz for its Civil War implications, but it also sparked fevered online discourse about the state of the current Black Panther series. In the short space of one month, this often-overlooked title has inspired debate to rage over its racially charged social commentary and seeming revision of canonical Marvel Universe continuity.
To top it off, writer Reggie Hudlin jumped into the virtual fray of online debate, but used multiple screen names to appear as more than one individual in support of the Black Panther comic. This served only to flame the fires, as detractors feel that Hudlin is overly critical and borderline discriminatory in his portrayal of white characters. Others feel that Hudlin is simply reflecting the prejudiced attitude that many of our American media members and politicians carry themselves with.

But despite the readership debate, Black Panther and Storm continue on in their journey. First it’s off to London to visit Brian Braddock, better known as Captain Britain. As foreshadowed in the previous issue, Braddock has no interest in supporting the Anti-Registration cause on a global scale. In fact, he essentially aligns himself with the Pro-Registration side without saying it.

As Panther and Storm fly to their next destination, Storm recounts her earlier call to the X-Mansion. She discussed the Registration resistance issue with Emma Frost, who was decidedly unreceptive to the notion of support. One subtle moment included Kitty Pryde popping her head through the floor as Emma spoke to Ororo. Kitty looks none-too-happy with the White Queen, and this itself may be a moment of foreshadowing for this series.

The Wakandan power couple finally land in Washington D.C., where a crowd of excited pro-Wakandan Americans wait in front of the White House. Hudlin and Garcia use parallel panel structure to show two different reporters on location delivering television broadcasts. One reporter warns watchers to stay at home as he stands in front of police clad in riot gear. Another reporter stands before the joyous crowd as they celebrate the arrival of the Wakandan king, prodding viewers to feel the excitement.

Panther and Storm are immediately directed into the White House, where Ororo is served Superhero Registration papers. Both Ororo and T’Challa take offense to the notion that a foreign ruler with diplomatic immunity must sign before meeting with the president. Panther becomes aggressive and leaves, calling out Tony Stark in the process. His reentrance onto the White House lawn causes both the crowd and the police to become restless.

It’s not long before a small riot breaks out in front of the White House. As Panther leaps into the crowd to save a small child from being trampled, his movements are mistaken for an attack. Jim Rhodes, former Iron Man and War Machine, is onsite to help maintain control of the situation. However, the skies grow dark as Storm becomes upset and soon no semblance of control is possible. Rhodes crashes his modified Sentinel (with some help from Wakandan security), and his best friend Tony Stark isn’t far behind in joining the fight.

This sets off a chain of events that lead to conflict. Panther displays the Black Knight’s ebony blade (a serious sore spot for some readers closely following multiple Marvel storylines) and proceeds to protect his bride from what he considers to be an assault initiated by Iron Man. This continues until an injured Jim Rhodes steps in to break up the fight. Tony heeds Rhodey’s sound judgment and yields. The resolution is quite open ended, but it does cement one fact: Black Panther and Storm have decided to stay in America until they have all the facts about the raging battle over Superhero Registration.

Aside from packing in action, Hudlin has filled the issue with thoughtful human moments under the guise of Jim Rhodes. The issue itself is framed by Rhodes’ decision to be on hand for T’Challa’s visit. Hudlin seems to speak directly to his online detractors through Rhodes in one tense moment: “Oh man, is Black Panther the new litmus test question? The question whites ask blacks to see if they are anti-white or too ‘pro-black’ or whatever?” This scene plays out in many ways as a direct confrontation between the writer and his negative contingent within the comic book fan base.

But drama aside, the art for the issue is simply wonderful. It seems as though the Manuel Garcia drawing this issue is not the same Garcia that drew the last. Of course is the same artist, but with an entirely new spirit and vibrancy. His conversations and disagreements between characters seem to leap off the pages, as he does his best Bryan Hitch meets Scot Eaton impression (without ever ripping either of them off). The growth in Garcia’s work since the last issue is not to be denied.

Thanks to increased visibility due to earlier Civil War branding (BP’s Civil War involvement was officially slated for #23, not #22), Black Panther has become a hot topic of discussion. Although some readers have taken to heart much of the disagreement surrounding the series, simply reading Black Panther #22 should dispel most inner conflict. It’s a fun comic book with a unique take on Civil War, mutant status, and Tony Stark’s attitude. In an age where hype and rumors can make or break a comic series, this may be a book that transcends the norm and simply stands on its own.

  Nick Marino

Other Comics / Squadron Supreme
« on: November 30, 2006, 01:05:39 pm »
Man I almost gave up on this series because it is so slow. Really there is no reason to get this montly or bi montly however it comes out. You can simply wait for the trades and be even more satisfied. Anyway number 7 was awsome. Im surprised it did not get the marvel knights stamp although I saw the parental advisory label. I will stick with this however long because Night Hawk is such a bad ass. The last panel was off the chain. Hey Sam that is some comic art I might like, but I know ol boy Frank work is a small fortune. Anyone still reading this?

Black Panther / The Vision.
« on: November 29, 2006, 06:33:00 pm »
Always wanted this as a sticky. The vision.

                                                                                                                    The Black Panther
                                                                                                A Historical Overview and a Look to The Future
                                                                                                                By Reginald Hudlin

When the Black Panther debuted in the 60s, he was so cool,so perfect a character in concept and execution it's hard to believe it was done by two white guys. But when the white guys in question were Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, then it makes sense. But to truly appreciate their achievement, it;s worth putting it in context: No black super hero before or after the Black Panther is as cool as the Black Panther. Sure, others come close. Luke Cage is as brilliant a Marvel response to blaxploitation as Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D was to the JAMES BOND/ SUPER SPY Trend. And in the Milestone line of comics was wonderful and smart.

But the Black Panther is STILL the man.

He's the King of his own country! He's rich! He's tough enough to defeat the Fantastic Four and Captain America! He's suave and sophisticated! He's got cool super-technology! And his name is...THE BLACK PANTHER. Just the name alone was so ahead of its time. (I wonder if the Black Panther Party in Oakland had gottent  famous first, would Stan have used the name anyway? Well, he didn't change it, so double-Kudos to him!)

The Panther's appearances in the LEE/Kirby issues of the FANTASTIC FOUR and CAPTAIN AMERICA were great, but nothing after that has been able to recapture the original magic. He never made much of an impression on me during any of his AVENGERS stints, and I never like the Mc Gregor-written series in JUNGLE ACTION. I even preffered the loopy but fun late Kirby series to Mc Gregor's morose characters that endlessly droned on with the overflowing captions with even more yakkety yakking. Enough already!

The Priest run on the Panther gave a much-needed shot in the arm to the character. His power level was restored to the point that the Panther had contingency plans to take on Galactus. Great! And he got two beautiful female bodyguards/concubines who can kick @$$. Great! He kicked it with fellow regents Namor and Doom. Great! He joined the Avengers to spy on them? The best idea yet!

The question is, how do we take the character to the next level?

Let's start by defining who he IS

The Black Panther is the Black Captain America. He's the embodiment of the ideals of a people. As Americans, we feel good when we read Captain America because he reminds us of the potential of how good America can be, if, of course, we have the convictions to live by the principles the country was founded on. As a black person, the Black Panther should represent the fulfillment of the potential of the Motherland.

For a long time, the Black American equivalent of that ideal was represented by Sidney Poitier, a man who maintained his dignity even in the degrading situations. But since the 80s, that ideal has shifted. In the post-integration, post-Reagan era, the new ideal is Spike Lee or Sean "Puffy" Combs, the artist/businessman hero who profits from his own cultural integrity. In other words, the man who has it all-the money, the politics and the cool and style of black culture.

What those celebrities named, along with Malcom X, Miles Davis and Muhammad Ali, all have in common, is the knowledge that the act of being a black man in white America is an inherent act of rebellion.. They are WILLING to be bad@$$es.

That's  what hip hop is all about. Being a bad@$$. Everyone wants to be a bad@$$. That's why white kids have always loved black music -- whether it's jazz, rock and roll or hip hop, black music is the music of bad@$$es, and plugging into that culture makes a suburban white kid feel like a bad@$$, too. And for a generation of white kids who have grown up without an "Elvis"- a white interpreter of black culture-their appreciation of the edgy street culture is shocking even to me.

I say all this because the harder the Panther is, the more appealing he is to both black AND white audiences.

All we've got to do is let the Panther be who he is set up to be. After all, he's a Wakandan. Wakandans are so bad@$$  They've NEVER BEEN CONQURED.

This is important. There are some countries that are like doormats -- everybody's kicked their @$$ atone point or another. But there are other peoples in the  comes to mind- that kick the @$$ of everyone who messes with them, superpower or not.

The Wakandans are such people. I figure every 50 years or so, somebody tries to make a move on them, and they have to prove the point to that generation of would-be conquerors:


The independence of the Wakandan People has got to be galling to the rest of the world for a lot of reasons. First of all, the rest of Africa has been carved up like a Christmas turkey. England, Germany, France, Belgium, the United States, the Soviet Union, Islamic and Christian many empires have taken large chunks of the land and resources for their own. Even after the independence block the total dominance of Africa by colonial powers, it's cultural evolution has gone unchecked for centuries. They were ahead of us a thousand years ago. And no one has colonized them, burned their books, erased their language, or broken their spirits.

Unfettered b the yoke of colonization, they have created a hi-tech, ecologically sound paradise that makes the rest of the world seem primitive by comparison. If the right company got their hands on their gadgets, their medicines, their R&D, THEY WOULD VAULT THEMSELVES A CENTURY AHEAD OF THEIR COMPETITORS.

But the Wakandans can't be bought out. This isn't a bunch of starving orphans pimped by dictators who'll sell out for a sizable contribution to their Swiss bank account. Wakandans are led by the Black Panthers, a warrior cult that serves as the religious, political and military head of the country. That tower in the center of the country is like a big middle finger to the rest of the world-literally. Their borders are tightly shut and they deal with the world on their own terms---or not at all.

The first scene of the book would be in the 10th century. Start on some neighboring tribe walking across the savannah looking for it's next conquest. They roll on Wakanda. But the Wakandans kick their @$$, using man-sized beartraps, crossbows and other technology that even Europeans didn't have at the time.

Cut to the turn of the century. The Boers have just finished conquering South Africa and are now moving on Wakanda. They've got rifles, they've got Gatling guns. But the Wakandans have a magnetic based weapon that caused the Boer weapons to backfire, maiming and killing half their troops. The Panthers then move in, leaving one man alive, as they usually do, to spread the world- DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT.

We see Captain America getting his butt whipped by T'Chaka during World War Two. YEA THEY WIL WHIP ANYBODY'S BUTT.

Okay, let me stop. I'm starting on scenes and I haven't even given an overview yet.

The first six issues of the book will be a re-telling of the Panther's origin. That hasn't been done during this incarnation of the Panther, and is the best way to st the tone for the book.

It will be a version without the Fantastic Four, much like the Lee/Kirby Silver Surfer graphic novel from the 70s, which retold his origin without the FF's involvement in the story.

The fist six issues will essentially be my versions of what the BLACK PANTHER MOVIE should be. But no matter what happens with the movie, or if the movie ever happens, there will be a TPB that people can pick up and see the character done right. No matter how horrible the Joel Schumacher Batman movies are, they cannot erase the greatness of The Dark Knight Returns or Batman: Year one. Hopefully, this book will do the same for T'challa.

I know some people at Marvel feel the Panther's base being in Africa is a problem. It shouldn't be. The Panther should move back and forth betwen Wakanda and the rest of the world the same way Thor moves between Asgard and Earth. He's an INTERNATIONAL player who's equally at home at the Davos Conference in Switzerland, meeting with Colin Powell in D.C. Cuba with Fidel Castro and Prince Namor.

A Great hero is defined by his villians. The Panther doesn't have his equivalents to Dr. Doom, the Red Skull, or Magneto. Instead he's got a guy wearing a white gorilla fur. I don't even know that loser's name, but he will never be seen inside the pages of the book I write.

Since the first story arc will be his origin, the main villain will be Klaw...but not the Murderous Master of Sound that he was in the 1960s. No way. Our villain is a South African who was named after his ancestor, who was one of the Boers who led the abortive attempt to invade Wakanda a century ago. In an act of revenge for the murder of his great-grandfather, and as part of a conspiracy to overthrow Wakanda, Klaw murdered T'Chaka. As he was about to kill the rest of the royal family, T'Challa, T'Chaka's son, blows Klaw's hand off, LITERALLY disarming him.

Now Klaw is equipped with a cybernetic hand that can turn into any number of murderous devices. He's invading Wakanda again, with a small commando squad of superpowered killers, to kill T'Challa and take over Wakanda.

But he's not the only person with the bright idea to invade Wakanda. Is the Panther ready to wage war at home-on multiple fronts?

And will he be betrayed from within?

Okay, that's not a whole pitch, but it's a start. I won't get into the second story arc with Cage, Shang-Chi, Photon and Storm...but that's gonna be even better.

by Reginald Hudlin

General Discussion / Hey Marvelous is a new mod!!!
« on: November 26, 2006, 03:40:38 pm »
Congrats man. You seem to have a consistent level presence here. Stay active and be firm but fair. Ahh we are getting there. Thanks powers that be. :)

BET Life / BET Tribute to Gerald Levert
« on: November 20, 2006, 05:02:12 pm »
BET has a nice tribute to Gerald Levert. Yall need to check it out.

In The News / Greed or Capitalism?
« on: November 16, 2006, 02:58:03 pm »
Man ditches PS3 plan
Columbus dentist hired temp workers to stand in line for pricey game console
Staff Writer

The frenzy for the latest piece of video game hardware reached a new high in Columbus, as a man hired workers to stand in line at Wal-Mart stores to purchase PlayStation 3 consoles.

"This is the only way I can get what I want," said Murray Newlin, a Columbus dentist.

Newlin wanted to buy 15 of the consoles as Christmas gifts for grandchildren, nieces and nephews. He was prepared to buy available units from Columbus and Phenix City Wal-Mart stores, as well as Auburn and Opelika, using a crew of 60 workers he cycled through in eight-hour shifts, according to one of the temps he hired.

Midday Wednesday, Newlin abandoned his bold strategy, after other potential PlayStation customers got wind of his plan and began complaining -- to him, the store managers and the employment agency he used.

The next-generation PlayStation goes on sale at midnight tonight. Demand is expected to far exceed the new unit's supply, as with the launch of the Microsoft Xbox 360 in 2005 and the Sony predecessor, the PlayStation2, released in the year 2000.

The PS3 is loaded with new technology, including graphics optimized for new high-definition televisions, a Blu-ray disc player and wireless Bluetooth controllers. It also comes with the heftiest price points for game systems yet -- $500 for a basic unit or $600 for a more advanced one.

Undeterred by either the high price or Wednesday's pounding rain and threat of tornadoes, eager gamers stood outside the Airport Thruway Wal-Mart, waiting for its release.

"They're outside," said store manager Bill Abercrombie. "We've told them as long as they stand organized, we're not going to say anything to them."

He wouldn't say how many units he expected, only, "Nowhere near enough."

Other stores were giving hopeful shoppers bad news early.

"Our initial plan was to pass out tickets at the entrance equal to the number of units we had to sell," said Joe Cortner, manager of Columbus' Milgen Road Kmart. "But we were informed recently that there may not be any units on (Nov.) 17th."

Industry reporters say that Sony has similarly told many retail chains that they will receive hundreds of thousands of units fewer than initially projected.

At video game specialty shop GameStop, anyone who's not on a pre-order list is out of luck. And the store won't be starting another order list now. Any new shipment will go straight on the shelves for the first to grab them.

With such a shortage, Newlin's plan for an en masse stakeout might indeed have been the only way to lock onto enough of the boxes to put under Christmas trees.

But that was no comfort to shopper Jennifer Revis, who wants to buy a PS3 for her boyfriend.

"I took off work (Thursday) and Friday so I could sit in line for him," she said. She still plans to queue up at a Wal-Mart today, but she certainly would have been out of luck had Newlin not retreated.

Her friend, Candy Williams, was even angrier. She had been told that today was the first day people could line up at Wal-Mart. She learned otherwise when one of her out-of-work friends got a job standing in line in the dentist's place.

"I only want one, but I know there's other people that are going to want them, too," said Williams, who has a 7-year-old son. "I just don't think it's right that you are paying people to stand in line for you. You're using your money and authority to pay people for what you want, and that's wrong."

Newlin checked with store managers to make sure he wasn't violating their policy before sending his work force to the stores. But he backed out, saying, "It's not worth the brouhaha it's causing.

"I don't feel like I've done one thing wrong," Newlin said, "but there's plenty of other Christmas gifts I can get the kids."

Hes lying last year I heard rumors during the 360 launch that he did the same thing but on a smaller scale. He turns around and flip them for a profit. I think he should be shot taking the ps3s from the kids.

Black Panther / The Cuss A m/f out quota.
« on: November 13, 2006, 01:20:28 pm »
It looks like the fan boys are at it again. After a few weeks of positive buzz about the black panther we have e-detectives trying to get fake ass exposures. I don't know why I let this sh*t suck me up like that but I trip out how we are forced to play by their rules, do it better then they do and they still get salty. >:( the f8CKIN thead.

Comic Reviews and Spoilers / Whaat. A positive Review From Silver Bullet.
« on: November 11, 2006, 07:28:26 am »
Wow believe it or not, from the comic site full of comic reviewers who I swear don't like comics you have an actually positive review on the black panther. Well I may have read one or two positive ones on this site before, but for the most part I can tell that some of the reviewers like the Green dude, post on other web sites spouting the same b/s and rhetoric. The Review.

Vox Populi / hey is that our lion with the mod job? {nt}
« on: November 08, 2006, 10:20:52 am »

Hudlin TV / Black Panther Cartoon.
« on: November 02, 2006, 04:10:01 pm »





Black Panther / Representing for your boy... yall do the same!
« on: October 25, 2006, 10:24:56 am »
I know, I know, damn the haters. I usually give and receive that advice but going to some of the fanboy sites because let's face it they do keep you up on whats going on out there in the comic world you will come across the occasional black panther and reggie hudlin thread. i usually avoid the  forums because let's be real we all know what they are about. But I know and you know that most of you go over there from time to time. I see posters go all out against our boy saying all kind of dispariging sh*t about the book we spend our time and money on. I said f*ck it as evenly and eloquently as possible as I represent all of you, I got my zeraze own and stood up in support of the book the black panther and reggie hudlin. anyway, I encourage you all to make yourselfs heard as well, not because reg needs it but just because i feel that balance is good. if all that the internet world see it that the online community is against the book, then that presents a false hood when over a hundred active on-line folks supprt this book. here is my post but dont just read it here. go over to cbr and let your thoughts be heard. ya heard?

I have lurked on these boards for a year or more and from time to time I a thread would discuss my favorite Marvel book The Black Panther. Unfortunately the thread will end being locked when posters will start on personal attacks against the author of the series. I won't get into what type of environment that causes but I would like to point out that although the Black Panther is among Marvels lowest selling title monthly it has roughly 25 thousand readers who do enjoy it monthly. Here are a few reasons why I and some others enjoy the series as written by Reggie Hudlin. I would like others who enjoy the book like I do to chime in as to why they like the series.

1. The Black Panther is Marvel's first black superhero. He has a long history that is deep in Marvel lore.

2. Reggie writes in a style that is easy to follow and it is easy for the new comic fan or fan to the Black Panther Character to jump right in this series without having to have every other book in the series or read every book that the Black Panther ever appeared in.

3. The Black Panther/ Tchalla is a role model that represents every thing positive about being a hero, king, husband, friend and team mate. Yea he might come off as too good to be true and super powerful, but too often (see Goliath) black heroes are underpowered or relegated to side kick status. The Black Panther/ Tchalla is no one's side kick.

4. Like Spider Girl, She-Hulk and Runaways, this is a fringe book that will only appeal to a target audience. Even though I think Reggie Hudlin (who admits he is a big comic fan) writes to that target audience it could and should appeal to all comic fans.

5. Reggie Hudlin is one of the most accessible, nicest, 3 dimensional and professional comic creators today. I have read post from you all about comic creators who trace work, plagiarize, constantly delay and submit late work. Reggie Hudlin has not done any of these things. Granted it should be a given that any professional is expected to do these things, however those writers and artist who do such things still don't receive the level of criticism that Reggie Hudlin receives. Reggie is not a racist nor did he ever call anyone a racist. He has friends and fans of all races all over the planer who he shares his personal thoughts and insights to. I asked for an autograph and he sent me two autographed trades. Is your favorite comic creator that open to you without a cost involved?

Any way any fans of this series that view this board. I know you all are out there show support for a series and writer who is doing it at marvel.

Black Panther / The Black Panthers!!!!!!
« on: October 12, 2006, 10:47:03 am »
Ok im trying to finish sprucing up my new digs at my new job and im checking out my framed Black Panther Poster (yea Sam the one i got in the A with you that time) and I keep going back and forth im my mind rather I wan't to keep having to say to employees as they come into my office, "No not the Black Panther Party for Self Defense, but The Black Panther the first Black Superhero." ::). I have my custom Black Panther figure in my office and I already got one who is that guy. Any tips? suggestions? I mean I won't mind giving the Black Panther some pub but it ain't like these jokers are going to go grab a book anytime soon. :P. I can see my Vietnam Vet, Purple Heart having Baby Boomer 50 something former Major now boss saying "What is this Black Panther business you have going on in the office Ervin?" I did say anything about his eagles or the other ladie's virgin marys or the next persons mural of her whole clan etc. etc. watch my nerd stuff be the one getting "discussed". :-\

Other Comics / x-men after 1990
« on: September 27, 2006, 06:51:00 pm »
hey folks. i got the 40 years of x-men dvd rom that contains scans of every uncanny x-men issue since #1 to about 2005. I also have issues from 2006 to the current arc. as a kid i used to be the x-men fiend having read or owned ever issue up to about 220. as i scan through a few issues here and there i notice a lot of to be honest wack sh*t. claremont was a writing beast in my youth and byrne despite his current b/s was on fire back in the day. i remember john romita jrs great issue plus one of the best x-men stories ever written the annual from around 88 with thunderbird and wolverine on the cover.

can anyone direct me to any issues or story arcs since 1990 or roughly issue 220 that were good. imagine having a whole comics history on disc. sounded nice when i got it, but it is disappointing that when i stopped reading the book i cant find good stuff. so for those x-folks suggest some great stories for me that i can go and read. you all have good taste and i trust you alls judgment.

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