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Marvel Won’t Recast Black Panther; Plots ‘Fantastic Four’ Reboot; Casts Christian Bale in ‘Thor 4’

http://variety.com/2020/film/news/marvel-black-panther-fantastic-four-reboot-casts-christian-bale-thor-4-1234851345/


This is what happens of course when you make the world around the character, including his supporting cast and what not, as big or bigger than the character himself.  I’ve said before that the first BP movie did not center enough on TChalla and pretty much made him superfluous, with Shuri being the leader in tech, Okoye being its greatest warrior, Nakia being the activist, and all else.  They made Chadwick and his performance  bigger than the actual character, and did not show enough why TCHALLA needs to be the Black Panther. They made Wakanda and his supporting cast as big if not BIGGER than the lead character.  Most of the writers currently and recently even in the comics have focused on Wakanda as a whole and not so much on TChalla. (With a notable exception being Aaron in Avengers) And now?  This is an excuse to move forward with other characters and with the “culture” of Wakanda without TChalla.  Because at the end of the day, despite however one may see Boseman’s performance, TChalla the character was made to be not so necessary to Wakanda and the franchise. 

They could never do this with Stark because they made Stark the reason why the iron man armor, Stark Industries, everything, existed.  Steve Rogers IS Captain America.  But in BP, they took so much away from the character to despense to other characters.  This wasn’t done with any other movie character.  And as some people have been saying online “anyone can be the Black Panther”.  TChalla is unnecessary.  Of course, all the “respect to Boseman” hand wringing covers up the fact that they don’t see TChalla as necessary and rendered him as such in the movie.  I mean, Shuri had to tell him how to release energy from his suit?  Nakia had to inspire him to help others outside of Wakanda?  Okoye had to tell him not to “freeze” as if he’s a simple lovesick schoolboy?

The movie, while good in many ways, made TChalla unnecessary, and this decision not to recast is the fruits of that.  When people are talking about the actor MORE than the character itself, you’ve failed to give much to the character or make said character the necessary focus

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Has anyone brought up John David Washington (Denzel’s son) for recasting T’Challa?  I think he’d be fantastic in the role after seeing Tenet.  Dude has star power, has a legacy behind him, and can act.  No disrespect, but I even think he’d equal or arguably surpass Chadwick in the role.


Whaaasssuuuuup, Curry! Where you been?

And YES. Not only has JDW been brought up, but the HEF board has pretty much unanimously agreed that JDW is the best pick to recast BP...if recasting is needed. I personally think that recasting not only should happen, but that T'Chadwick himself definitely wanted such a thing to happen. He wanted T'Challa to outlive him and all of the rest of us, while trailblazing more openings in the huge moviemaking industry.

Hey Supreme! I’ve been around.  I check in on here every now and then just haven’t felt like responding to much.

Yeah, okay cool.  I’ve been hoping to see some article posting that there’s interest in JDW but haven’t seen any.  Just more about Shuri. I certainly won’t be interested in seeing her be Black Panther as I’ve never cared much for the character in the comics nor in the MCU. Never thought he needed a sister and it was a mistake when Hudlin invented her.  One of the reasons of course is that I knew eventually some would be clamoring for her to take his place.  Hopefully they will not go this route but we will have to see...

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Has anyone brought up John David Washington (Denzel’s son) for recasting T’Challa?  I think he’d be fantastic in the role after seeing Tenet.  Dude has star power, has a legacy behind him, and can act.  No disrespect, but I even think he’d equal or arguably surpass Chadwick in the role.


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Black Panther / Re: BP710: THE PROTOCOLS 2020 - AVENGE THE FALLEN
« on: March 09, 2020, 04:49:34 pm »
Coates hemorrhaging of Storm's upgrades seemed to have bled over into the X books. In an CBR article Paul Yang states that Storm and Black Panther have shared a complicated relationship over the years and that Storm feels an enormous connection to Wakanda. To proof such a very familiar scene appears when Jean Grey and Emma Frost enter Ororo's mind.





Yang's states the references to Wakanda do not end there. Emma and Jean are confronted by two large lions that demand to know the reason for their presence. Yang suggests these lions represent Storm's godhood and her relationship with Bast.

Yang concludes with connecting Ororo's mindscape to Wakanda opens big possibilities for the future as Storm becomes a more pivotal figure in Krakoa. Her mind may reveal divided loyalties: Should Wakanda and Krakoa ever come to conflict, Storm might choose to stand by her former nation, rather than the mutant island.


full article
https://www.cbr.com/storm-black-panther-marriage-wakanda-mindscape/

It's funny how the X-office remains hellbent on hitching Storm to the BP mythos by any means necessary.

I pray that the next BP scribe dismantles all of Coates garbage moving forward.

I think Hickman, along with Ellis, always gave respect to BP in general and his relationship with Storm in particular...so this is nothing new really since Hickman wrote it.

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Black Panther / Re: Racism in Black Panther fandom
« on: April 01, 2018, 07:04:37 pm »
No offense taken, but there is a lot of interpretation going on. One of the challenges of online discussion is the absence of normal conversational contextual clues.

For instance, Battle did say right away that his comment was being misinterpreted:


This Seems oddly hostile for no reason..BoG had been reppin T'Challa and Being an enthusiast for a looong time,
he has more then proved he is a true Wakandan.


Uh-huh...

...oddly hostile...

No.

You misunderstanding what I just wrote is "...oddly hostile..."  to me.
By the way, I doubt that Battle didn't get the joke.

Lol...even that reply he made was not serious and hella dismissive.  If he was misinterpreted why not sincerely explain that?  And why rep for the other jackasses that have been saying offensive things?  Like this idiot troll who is still writing nonsensical poetry to annoy people? How do you misinterpret that?  What's the purpose? Cause it sure aint for actual dialogue.

Wow...id love to see if BOG got "misinterpreted" by calling someone on here a coon.  That'd be a riot. 

Maybe you know something others don't.  Hell, maybe you agree with what they've said.  But you really seem to be going out of your way to make excuses for dickish behavior.
And lost two sincere and engaging posters in the process.

No worries.  Its just the Hudlin board.


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Black Panther / Re: Racism in Black Panther fandom
« on: April 01, 2018, 03:47:50 pm »

Battle, perhaps you would care to clarify your intent?
As it stands, some are interpreting your comment in response to a HEF member's heartfelt confession as a reference to the Nation of Islam's white devils rhetoric. Surely you can recognize the offense taken in light of that interpretation.


Sure.

I agree with you.

They misinterpreted.
By the way, what's the full Boomerang quote? I don't recall that one.

Curtis metcalf, no disrespect, but even I can see dude is playing you.  Do you really think if he was “misinterpreted” he would’ve let all of this go on for the past few days without explaining HOW he was “misinterpreted?”  This is the first time he’s saying he was “misinterpreted”.  Plus he was egging on and agreeing with the other two asshats that have been posting offensive rhetoric.

He answered you in short blurbs like “sure” and “ I was misinterpreted” pretty much just going along with what you suggested without explaining how he was “misinterpreted.”  Because he actually wasn’t.


As for the movie, he’s probably paraphrasing something Martin Lawrence’s cartoonish wanna be five-percenter character said.  Not realizing the character was supposed to be a joke.  I’m sorry, it’s just sad to see how this guy is playing you and others on here.


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Black Panther / Re: Racism in Black Panther fandom
« on: April 01, 2018, 06:45:26 am »
Yeah.. this forum was free of racists trolls up until a couple months ago. Literally a couple months ago. So yeah I think we can do with out the "dirt" for sure. If you like dirt there are plenty of other forum's that will sate that need. HEF should not be one of them

HEF IS NOT ONE OF THOSE RACISTS FORUMS. You're right. I've been here since nearly the start of R to the H's run. Never saw even the HINT of racism from any of the frequent and consistent or frequent OR consistent posters. Now? It's simple.

Report racists. Ban them.

Once upon a time, here at the HEF, for the longest
The poster who used the Captain America icon
Would post his so-called perfected flowers
ie:All Lives Matter to Black Life Matters
Many here rushed to prove equality
It took them years to realize
The true definition
Good riddence


"Good riddance" is fine. "My race is superior to yours", is not.

Many here rushed to prove equality
It took them years to realize
The true definition

LOL.

I’ve been observing this for a day or two now...frequent these boards to see what’s happening in BP’s book (since I’m not buying it) and to look at what my boy Ture is posting.

I’ve been in some pretty ugly arguments on here myself, but this dude Tanksleyd with the nonsensical poetry is an obvious troll. He, along with the other two guys with their dumb NOI racism would have been kicked off the CBR boards long before now, even if they go overboard over there.  Come on.  These guys are just trying to rile everybody with their fake version of ideology and not actually trying to share, discuss, or even argue anything.  Ban them already.

Say what one might about CBR there's no arguing with the fact you"ve raised about their ban policy.

These trolls would have been ban hammered if they'd pulled a similar stunt over there.

The “devil” comment alone would’ve at least been erased as soon as it was posted and the poster given a stern warning.  The fact that a 7 page thread exists calling this out, with 2 admirable posters leaving the board over it, and these guys are still on here doesn’t speak well at all of the moderation of these boards. 

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Black Panther / Re: Racism in Black Panther fandom
« on: March 31, 2018, 11:40:17 am »
Yeah.. this forum was free of racists trolls up until a couple months ago. Literally a couple months ago. So yeah I think we can do with out the "dirt" for sure. If you like dirt there are plenty of other forum's that will sate that need. HEF should not be one of them

HEF IS NOT ONE OF THOSE RACISTS FORUMS. You're right. I've been here since nearly the start of R to the H's run. Never saw even the HINT of racism from any of the frequent and consistent or frequent OR consistent posters. Now? It's simple.

Report racists. Ban them.

Once upon a time, here at the HEF, for the longest
The poster who used the Captain America icon
Would post his so-called perfected flowers
ie:All Lives Matter to Black Life Matters
Many here rushed to prove equality
It took them years to realize
The true definition
Good riddence


"Good riddance" is fine. "My race is superior to yours", is not.

Many here rushed to prove equality
It took them years to realize
The true definition

LOL.

I’ve been observing this for a day or two now...frequent these boards to see what’s happening in BP’s book (since I’m not buying it) and to look at what my boy Ture is posting.

I’ve been in some pretty ugly arguments on here myself, but this dude Tanksleyd with the nonsensical poetry is an obvious troll. He, along with the other two guys with their dumb NOI racism would have been kicked off the CBR boards long before now, even if they go overboard over there.  Come on.  These guys are just trying to rile everybody with their fake version of ideology and not actually trying to share, discuss, or even argue anything.  Ban them already.

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Happy holidays HEF!

I would say I think there is more too it personally. I won't dive Into it much, but on think there isn't a right or wrong side. I think A
Curry and Ture and the rest of y'all have presented a pretty clear debate from both spectrums and both sides are true to some extent. But ultimately, Priest is a victim of racism that hindered his rise to A list writer with fame to his name like he should of decades ago. He just reacted different due to circumstances.


I appreciate the credit  Ezyo...and I agree...as I said before  some points on the opposite side of the debate I can understand and agree with, as I've also said Priest has his issues...but as you said he has been a victim of racism in his career, so its somewhat understandable why he's taken some of the stances he has...including wanting to spearhead the books of A-list characters and those other than just the ones that are "of color", to use the term he used.  And I hope he continues to get the opportunities now that he was denied before. I even hope, after some time, he changes his mind and does return to BP's comic.

Happy Xmas and New Year to all of you.  If anything, this was a scintillating debate.

Cheers!

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I don't really want to argue this anymore, since all we're really going to do is exchange opinions at this point, and I dislike arguing with people I call friend.  But I took a quick scan of the thread, and I didn't see a copy of these links, pieces Priest wrote for his website 15 years ago, that I think gives a lot of context to his positions:

http://digitalpriest.com/legacy/comics/chips1.html
http://digitalpriest.com/legacy/comics/chips3.html

Three years later, he retired from comics.  Six years ago, before DEATHSTROKE, he wrote this:

http://digitalpriest.com/comics/mambo/


Geeze.  Thanks for posting this.

I remember scanning through this before some time ago...but now reading it in detail and in context to what he’s saying now and what’s being said about him on here now....wow.  The guy paid some dues. Very thoughtful and eloquently stated.  And the opening line regarding how he and Mark Waid aren’t really that different and Waid never being asked about the “race thing” while Priest always is...and Waid making more money, getting bigger opportunities, and all...it’s not only underscoring what I stated earlier about him and his peers who are white, but telling to how he, in some ways, is the way he is now.  Again, Priest definitely has his issues, but I find it hard to believe anyone looking at this from an unbiased and intellectually thoughtful standpoint would come up with the simple, reactionary conclusion that the man thinks blacks, or black characters, are inferior.  Especially with everything he’s done and moreso, endured.  At some point some people just want to be seen, and reacted to, as a person.  Not necessarily a representative of a demographic.

And again, in case it wasn’t seen, he said to bleeding cool he’d be interested in working on a BP prose novel if Marvel were to do such a thing...just not the comic anymore.

CHEERS

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Curiously, and this isn't in reply to anyone necessarily (sorry Kimoyo, I haven't even read your last reply) because like I said before, we could go in circles for months like this, but I've been looking at this other recent Priest interview off of Bleeding Cool due to this debate, and it’s a lot of info and a far superior interview...and...in quotes:

"CP: No, I’ve done everything with Black Panther other than turn him into like a fry cook. I can’t imagine what story I would write. Marvel did call me last year and floated that idea of me returning to Black Panther and I graciously declined and said you need some fresh ideas and some fresh people.

I think they made some brilliant choices. I’m looking forward to great things from Mr. [Ta-Nehisi] Coates and how that’s going to work. But no, I couldn’t imagine what I would write with Black Panther.

What I would like to do is, I would like to write a Black Panther novel, a prose novel. I’d like to take that opening arc – that whole ‘The Client’ arc – and turn that into a book. But Marvel, they do some prose books, but not a lot. DC is probably more open to that sort of idea then Marvel is, so I don’t know. But that I’d do, if that was a possibility."

So, he said no because he feels he's done everything he can with BP and that the character needs some fresh ideas and fresh people working on it.  He did say however he'd be interested in doing a BP prose novel.  How does this sound like he's disrespecting the character or thinks he's inferior?

Then there's this:

"CP: DC reached out to me when they were building this ‘Rebirth’ thing and they were re-staffing and they were making some changes and they were looking for new writers and things. One of the editors called me and offered me Cyborg and I politely turned them down because I don’t want to be limited to ONLY writing characters of color."

That’s all that has been offered to me for 8 or 9 years or however long it’s been. At the convention here people have been coming up to me and saying “glad to have you back” – but I don’t think I ever left! It wasn’t like I was refusing to write comics – it was that they wouldn’t offer me anything that wasn’t a character of color"

"ONLY characters of color..." now...how does this imply that the man thinks black characters are "inferior" ?  He didn't say he doesn't want to write black characters, he said he doesn't want ONLY to write black, or "of color" characters.  And that's all he's been offered in the last 8 or 9 years.  That's why he left.  He's supposed to be cool with it when his options are being limited from him in his profession?

This interview reads and explains itself far better than the one where he supposedly was going on about white characters...it's possible he was trying to be sardonic or funny.  Either way it was a bit off, but this interview explains his points better.  I wish people had quoted him from this interview.

To Beware of Geek's point also, as far as his contribution to black characters...as Jim Owsley, Priest was the one who got Luke Cage to stop talking like a blaxploitation cartoon along with giving the character some depth and maturity....while also getting the Falcon, whom with a master's degree, wouldn't be talking in stereotypical street jive the way he was before, to actually speak like an educated black man.

Funny thing is?  The white staffers at Marvel told him he didn't know how to write black characters because of this.  The nerve, huh?

This doesn't sound like a guy who thinks black characters are inferior...just one who's tired of being offered ONLY one demographic of characters.  And his point he's made before about black characters being harder to sell in this industry is proven through his own experience, history, and even currently.  Again, outside of BP right now no other black character is a high seller or high profile.  And he even said his BP run is only popular now because of the huge media push the character has gotten in the last decade or so...starting with Hudlin...a man who has huge media connections and used them.

Cheers.

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For the record, I misspoke.  Priest was 44 when he left CAPTAIN AMERICA & FALCON (and comics in general) not PANTHER.  He was born in 1961.  He started in comics as an intern when he was 17, and joined editorial a year later.  He was the first African-American editor at Marvel, AND at DC.  He may have been the first black writer at the Big Two (I've seen some argument regarding that).  He hired Peter David.  He helped discover Joe freakin' Quesada.  He was the "fifth Beatle" at MILESTONE.

And now, almost FORTY YEARS LATER, after dealing with casual racism and editors who did not want him to succeed (ask him about BATMAN PLUS XERø sometime), he's finally getting a little respect.

If you ask me, he's done plenty for black characters and black creators.  I think he's perfectly within his rights to think about himself, now.

Again, great points.  People.seem to dismiss that the man is a decades long veteran in this field that HAS worked on black characters during his tenure...and never recieved the high profile or level of respect in the industry that got him the offers he wanted...while many of his peers, some he even hired as you've stated...went on to greater successes and having a wider array of characters who yes, are mostly white, open to them.


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To A.C.

All of which to say..."That’s not “seeing” them as inferior, the truth is just that they aren’t game changers for a writer’s career the way many of the white ones are." or so you say?  I'm not sure how you know the way Priest sees things, but it all sounds like little more than semantics.

Not that he has to want to come back to BP, but why trash the idea so publicly?  If BP is "cool" now and has significant juice to aid a writer's career, than why categorically, vehemently rule out ever returning to write BP, yet gush over the use of Ross, the inclusion of Ross and the true import of Ross in the critically acclaimed run that actually did raise your profile and cred as a writer in the industry? 

These are tough questions for me to ask.  I truly am a fan of the work that revived BP/T'Challa and Wakanda.  However, I'm far to old and experienced to allow anyone to piss on my shoes and try to convince me it's raining.

Peace,

Mont

I'm not sure how you know the way Priest sees things either, since you "absolutely" believe he sees black characters as inferior.  Despite the man never saying that.

I can't help but respond once more, because you really seem to be just reacting to that interview on an emotional level  and not looking at it practically or logically.  These may be tough questions to ask, but you're dismissing the tough answers as "semantics".

And please don't quote someone out of context.  It's really a disservice...The "game changers" line about many of the white characters being such had more context to it than you're highlighting, with practical reasons underscoring it. And I said RACISM obviously had some things to do with it.  If you're going to argue, look at the qhole argument and not just one line you choose to focus on. 

The truth is, the more popular, high-selling, high profile characters in comics right now are mostly white. This is just the truth. Can you prove otherwise?

Again, Kimoyo, please name 5 black characters in comics besides BP right now that are carrying their own title long term. And not legacy characters or ones propped up partially by association with a more popular character.

 Name 5 besides BP that are as recognizable or popular in the mainstream as Batman, Iron Man, Captain America, Flash, Superman, Spider-Man, etc....

These questions are rhetorical.  I dont expect you to answer them and dont think you can honestly.

But do you actually think being given Batman or Spider Man or Wolverine to write isn't going to raise a writer's profile higher than Cage or Black Lightning? There's a reason BP, now, is the ONLY option you have to point to in your argument regarding characters that are high profile in comics.. 

It's not semantics.  It's just the truth...though I understand why the answers are tough to digest.  But again, doesn't mean anyone thinks they're inferior.  The man's been doing this for decades with little as far as high profile work and success to show for it...why would he want another Cyborg or Cage situation like Walker has now?

I think Martian Manhunter is a great character.  I also understand he's been harder to sell as a solo character and doesnt have the higher profile as Superman does..  Doesn't mean I think he's "inferior" though.  Even if he can't keep a title.

Lastly, I understand why some would be disappointed about Priest not really wantng to return to BP, but he didn't trash the idea.  You act like he said, "Nah, f*ck that guy...never."  He said no rather vehemently, and he said he'd have no idea what to do with the character now.  Does he have to think he's inferior because he's not interested in writing him?  Is it wrong that he's interested in other books he's being offered that can and has raised his profile, ones he hasn't written already?

Ross is a character he actually created, and he obviously relates to and has fondness for.  Understandable.

And though his work.on BP was deservedly critically acclaimed, it didn't sell enough to keep going...and it didn't raise his profile enough that he was able to get the offers he wanted at the time. STILL.  He was told to write " the Crew" after Panther.  The Crew.

These arent semantics...they're facts.  Unfortunate as some of them are. 

Again, CHEERS.

 


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Let's cut to the chase and skip all the attempts at rationalization.  There is no bigger fan of what CJP did with BP than me.  As such, I was aware of what his opinion of Black Panther was from jump.  He stated it openly, clearly seeing him as an inferior character, but with convincing he took the job anyway and more than did the character justice.  I do not presume to tell you what he thinks, but please explain to me, real talk, how he could not "see" the black characters he's helmed as inferior when he "sees" writing white characters as the only way to advance/legitimize his career as a comics writer?

Peace,

Mont

I’m gonna respond to this one last post and then bounce...though I’m not sure you’re reading because the answer to your question was stated, at least twice, in my last post and the one before that.

First, the implication never was that Priest saw Black Panther as an “inferior” character BECAUSE he’s black...when he took him on duriing the beginning of the Marvel Knights stuff, he indicated he wanted Daredevil and he gave clear reasons why he wasn’t necessarily into it at first...and none of it was because he’s black.  He said, before he actually revamped the character, that he was dull.  He didn’t have a “witty speech pattern, bub”, that he was the guy at the back of the Avengers photo who on missions said “a huge monster...Thor, go get him!”  The point is, at the time he took him, as far as how he’d been used, his popularity status, the abilities he thus far had showed, and his world...compared to Daredevil and  the more popular Marvel characters?  He kinda was dull.   This didn’t have anything to do with his race, though. Now, Priest himself went into how this was a result of how Panther had been “misused” or ignored since his first appearance. And it took a creative person with vision and going back to how the character was originally introduced to make him “cool” again...but the truth is if a writer just wanted to jump onto a character that was already cool and popular at the time...Panther was not it.  NOW he is.  If you want to use the word “inferior” (Priest never did, even in this last interview regarding white characters) you can, but he was only “inferior” in terms of his at the time lack of development, popularity, and showings.

 For one, when did Priest say it was the “only way?”  But real talk? How many white characters keep their own series going as opposed to the fewer black ones in the big 2?  How many of the A-List characters, the most iconic, are white as opposed to black?  Right now you have BP as an A-list character holding down his own series...how many other black characters right now are on that level and doing the same, or the same as Batman, Cap, Superman, or even Deathstroke?  Again, despite the huge push by DC, Cyborg is cancelled again...along with Cage at Marvel.  It’s not seeing them as “inferior”, but it’s a numbers game...and unfortunately due to a number of reasons, racism being one of them, there’s a far larger stable of white characters that are A-list that can advance any writer’s profile, than there are black ones.  Currently right now there’s only one. David Walker worked on both Cyborg and Cage, both are canceled, and it arguably hasn’t raised his profile or advanced him as a comics writer.  Even Panther after Priest was given to two writers with already high media profiles outside of comics (Hudlin and Priest) which arguably helped raise Panther’s status instead of the opposite happening.

Priest himself worked on Panther, it was canceled eventually, and then the Crew, also cancelled.  It still didn’t raise his profile all that much nor was he offered, still, any of the characters he wanted.

But being given a high-profile character/book like JL?  Especially if you do well on it?  Tom King is seen as a superstar writer now due to his work on BATMAN...the same happened with Scott Snyder.  Priest’s status has already been raised higher than it was before just by being assigned Justice League, according to how it’s being talked about on sites.  It’s not about “seeing” them as inferior, but the truth still stands that most of the black characters aren’t highly popular or A-list enough to raise one’s status as quickly as many of the white ones are.  That’s not “seeing” them as inferior, the truth is just that they aren’t game changers for a writer’s career the way many of the white ones are.

Now, yeah, as Ture suggested before...a writer like Priest can commit himself to raising the status of the black characters in the comics...but like Beware of Geek said, dude was 44 when he left Panther...maybe 40 when he started.  He was already a veteran.  Take race out of it, a newcomer like Kevin Smith gets offered the more popular DD while a veteran like him gets, at the time, the less popular BP?  How does that look?  I’m sure David Walker may have committed himself to that, and look how it’s turning out for him.

Not saying it shouldn’t or can’t be done, but Priest wanting opportunities creatively and professionally to write white characters, especially while many of them are more popular, and can raise his profile, after years, decades even, of being denied them while he DID work on black characters...is a practical choice. Not a “they’re inferior” viewpoint

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I think the thing to remember is that, by the time Priest left Panther, he was 44 years old.  He'd been fighting for legitimacy as a writer in the field for literally decades, and had seen other writers of his generation (including some HE HIRED as an editor) gain critical and popular acclaim while he was best known for "The Priest Curse".

He wasn't the angry young man Larry Hama hired back in the 70's.  He was trying to make a living, and like McDuffie, had discovered that he was trapped by a cage he didn't even know was there.  (Read Dwayne's last HARDWARE story in MILESTONE FOREVER.  And then read between the lines)

Would Priest have liked to raise the profile of black characters?  I'm sure he would have.  But he also needed to make a living, and when he was regularly frozen out of writing the A List characters that could make his career... he quit.  Because sometimes, the only way to win is not to play.

Good points all, Peter David was one writer he hired as an editor that went on to be offered major characters.  I’ll also add that in many ways, Priest DID raise the profile of some black characters...I don’t think we’d be with Panther where we are today if he didn’t write him in the great way he did...but also other than monetary gain, if you’ve been a writer and a comics fan for the greater part of your life...why wouldn’t you want to work on those major, iconic characters?  Again, Priest needs to explain himself better, even I have issues with HOW he said what he said, but it doesn’t necessarily indicate what’s being implied to on here.

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