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What is the devaluation? Tchalla shouldn't be able to negotiate strife between species he barely knows. Maybe eight years of exposure to them while at the same time be unaware that slavery was happening under his nose. Set up like that, anyone from Wakanda prime shouldn't be leading the Empire. Its grown beyond their capabilities and experience.

The devaluation is not having T'Challa the Black Panther firing on all cylinders just to tell a tale about a supporting character. You see, the trick is T'Challa is a polymath and a master of strategy and tactics and as such is a quick study. He should be seen successfully negotiating the strife between species he barely knows. Why because that is what makes him more the hero, the super hero we want to read about. Priest often demonstrated T'Challa's political savvy. Remember this.



I agree that the set up is important and it requires a writer studied in geopolitics (on a cursory level), full of enthusiasm and imagination with a creative flare to tell the story in a unique way tailored to the Black Panther. Wakanda Prime should most certainly be leading the Intergalactic Empire of Wakanda with T'Challa as emperor. Telling the story of how T'Challa deals with and learns to govern an empire spanning five galaxies offers a plethora of original story potential. T'Challa is and has always been, back to his inception, a leader and a king.

Even the mutant known as Angel understood this back in the eighties.



Dare I say he was cloaking back then.


Wakanda is supposed to be the most advanced nation on earth and it is past time to show it. No more stories, especially in his own comic, of faux revolutions and T'Challa naval gazing while dreaming of being an Avenger.

For years it was argued that T'Challa is Marvels Batman, no he is not and never was; the Black Panther is equal to Captain America as if that was some kind of accomplishment; put him on the Avengers, let him work his way up the ranks til one day we can see him as a leader. The Black Panther is bristling with original story potential.

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The bolded is how we end up with unfans who say we only want Tchalla seen as 'great, great, great' and then we have to correct them showing them examples of him going though hardships. This empire thing is one of those examples. The Isekai anime trope of the human being dropped into a new world and immediately taking control is fun, but that usually happens because of how weak the world he gets dropped into is. I don't like the concept of the empire, but I don't want it to be some weak toy that Tchalla can just easily fix because he is so great.

T'Challa is great, that's why he is a successful superhero franchise. Those unfans you speak don't even read the BP comics so why should fans and enthusiasts have to show and prove anything to them? Let's not focus on unfans and point our attention to T'Challa the Black Panther reaching his potential.

Coates littered the Black Panther with tropes... cosmic slavery, rape camps in trees and a milquetoast "black" male lead. At least with the empire we get to go big and tell stories that span the cosmos or is it we have to keep vacillating between street level activities and romping with the Avengers? 

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The reason Coates story sucked was because he was putting Tchalla into situations that were well below his abilities. The empire storyline should take at least five years of storytelling of victories and losses before it comes easy to him.

Not necessarily easy as much as worthy of his mantle.
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But its not Tchallas' book. It doesn't matter.

I read Batman and the Outsiders and Hill routinely had Jefferson insult Batman becuae it was more his book than Batman's. I wouldn't expect the same in Batman or Detective Comics, but side books where hes a support character. Its insignificant.

And Hudlin had Tchalla call Storm a goddess more than once. The difference is Coates inserted her into Wakandan culture which is where the insult is.

There's a difference between Batman and T'Challa though. Batman always had a boom and is shown as THE GUY. T'Challa hasn't gotten to that point and spent the last 5 years being punked on in his book and side books than in a side boom now, Again. It gets old. And it doesn't benefit the characters doing the insulting at al I. The way it's being done
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Vox Populi / Re: Disappearing Excellence: The Senate & Loretta Lynch
« Last post by Battle on Today at 01:53:39 pm »
Thursday, 23rd September  ~Two Thousand & Twenty One
Louisiana state stupor charged in pummeling of Black man
by JAKE BLEIBERG and JIM MUSTIAN







A former Louisiana State Police trooper has been charged with a civil rights violation for pummeling a Black motorist 18 times with a flashlight — the first criminal case to emerge from federal investigations into troopers’ beatings of at least three Black men.

A grand jury on Thursday indicted Jacob Brown for the 2019 beating following a traffic stop that left Aaron Larry Bowman with a broken jaw, broken ribs and a gash to his head.

Brown was charged with one count of deprivation of rights under color of law, federal prosecutors said.

Brown’s attorney, Scott Wolleson, declined to comment

Bowman’s attorney, Donecia Banks-Miley, called the indictment “a sigh of relief.”

“We’re just trying to remain hopeful and trust the process of justice,” she told The Associated Press.

“Aaron is extremely happy, and he just wants full justice.”

Brown’s indictment comes as the federal prosecutors on the case are scrutinizing other troopers who punched, stunned and dragged another Black motorist, Ronald Greene, before he died in their custody on a rural roadside.

The probe of Greene’s 2019 death has grown to examine whether police brass obstructed justice to protect the troopers who beat the Black motorist after a high-speed chase.

Body camera video of both beatings, which took place less than three weeks and 20 miles (32 kilometers) apart, remained under wraps before the AP obtained and published them this year.

They are among a dozen cases over the past decade in which an AP investigation found troopers or their bosses ignored or concealed evidence of beatings, deflected blame and impeded efforts to root out misconduct.

“The department has previously acknowledged that it has open and ongoing criminal investigations into incidents involving the Louisiana State Police that resulted in death or bodily injury to arrestees,” the DOJ said in a statement.

“Those investigations remain ongoing.”

On the May night Bowman was pulled over for a traffic violation, Brown came upon the scene after deputies had forcibly removed Bowman from his vehicle and taken him to the ground.

The trooper later told investigators he “was in the area and was trying to get involved.”

Video and police records show he beat Bowman 18 times with a flashlight in 24 seconds after deputies pulled him over for a traffic violation near his Monroe home.

Brown later said Bowman had struck a deputy and the blows were “pain compliance” intended to get Bowman into handcuffs.

Bowman, 46, denied hitting anyone and is not seen on the video being violent with officers.

He still faces a list of charges, including battery of a police officer, resisting an officer and the traffic violation for which he was initially stopped, improper lane usage.

Brown, 31, failed to report his use of force and mislabeled his body-camera footage in what investigators described in internal records as “an intentional attempt to hide the video.”

State police didn’t investigate the attack until 536 days later, and only did so after a lawsuit from Bowman.

Brown was perhaps the Louisiana State Police’s most prolifically violent trooper in recent years.

Records show he tallied 23 uses of force dating to 2015 — 19 on Black people — and he faces state charges in Bowman’s case and two other violent arrests of Black motorists.

The Louisiana State Police’s own tally shows that in recent years 67% of its uses of force were against Black people.

That figure has fueled mounting calls from civil rights groups and Black leaders for the U.S. Justice Department to go beyond individual prosecutions and launch a “pattern and practice” probe into potential racial profiling by the agency.

Col. Lamar Davis, the head of the state police, said earlier this month that he would welcome such a probe if the department deems it necessary but that he wants the opportunity to correct the department’s issues and is already working to do so.
























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In The News / Re: Jurors in Bill Cosby's trial say they are deadlocked
« Last post by Battle on Today at 01:24:31 pm »
Thursday, 23rd September  ~Two Thousand & Twenty One
Phylicia Rashad Claims Bill Cosby Trial Was About Destroying His Legacy
by DailyReports71




Ever since Bill Cosby began facing legal issues, Phylicia Rashad has supported her TV husband through thick and thin.

In many cases, the actress risked the chances of being canceled by a culture of individuals who believed Bill Cosby was indeed guilty.

Phylicia Rashad played Bill Cosby’s wife, Claire Huxtable, on the Bill Cosby show, which lasted for eight seasons and became a cultural phenomenon and ideal representation of black families on television.

Rashad’s role as Claire Huxtable led the actress to become known as “Mother of the Black Community” at the 2010 NAACP Image Awards.

Following the end of the show, Rashad and Cosby went on to work on various projects individually.

Still, they continued building their friendship which has lasted nearly forty years at this point.

While the world seemed to turn its back on Cosby, Rashad’s support remained consistent.

In 2015, Rashad claimed she was misquoted during an interview with Showbiz 411 which quoted the ‘This Is Us’ actress saying,
“Forget these Women.”

The publication also alleged the actress became dismissive when Beverly Johnson and Janice Dickinson’s claims were brought to her attention.

Rashad vehemently denied making those assertions.

Following Showbiz’s misquote, Rashad, clarified her statement during an interview with ABC when the actress insisted her response described Cosby’s trial as an attempt to destroy his legacy.

“What I said is that this is not about the women. This is about something else. This is about the obliteration of legacy,” Rashad clarified.

Also, claiming Bill Cosby’s legacy is important to the culture, and that’s why they’re attempting to destroy it.

As years went by, Rashad continued to provide her two cents on Cosby’s legal woes regardless of public opinion.

Most recently, Rashad faced backlash again for celebrating and supporting her dear friend, Bill Cosby, following his release.

“FINALLY!!! A terrible wrong is being righted — a miscarriage of justice is corrected,” the actress tweeted in a now-deleted viral tweet.

Angry fans even attempted to get the actress fired from her job as Dean of the Chadwick Boseman College of Fine Arts at Howard University before she had a chance to begin her post.

Phylicia Rashad eventually released a statement apologizing, claiming her tweet was in no way directed towards the women.

Many celebrities, including Stephanie Mills and Bill Cosby, came to her defense.















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Vox Populi / Re: Crushing Haiti, Now as Always
« Last post by Battle on Today at 01:04:25 pm »
Thursday, 23rd September   ~Two Thousand & Twenty One
Psaki Announces Del Rio Border Patrol Will No Longer Use Horses
by BRITTANY BERNSTEIN




Press Secretary Jen Psaki announced Thursday that Border Patrol agents will no longer be permitted to use horses to guard the border in Del Rio, Texas, after “horrific” photos emerged of agents swinging long reins while interacting with Haitian migrants.

The press secretary said Biden has asked outreach team members of his national security team and homeland security team to “explain clearly what our policy is and what our policy is not.”

“We could not see it as any more different from the policy of the prior administration, which the president feels — we all feel — was inhumane, immoral, ineffective, wasn’t operationally working and, because of the dysfunction of it, we have led to a very broken system that we’re dealing with today.”

She said the president would like to convey there is an investigation being done into the “horrific” pictures.

“I can also convey to you that the secretary also conveyed to civil rights leaders earlier this morning that we will no longer be using horses in Del Rio so that is something, a policy change that has been made in response,” she said.























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Vox Populi / Re: Disappearing Excellence: The Senate & Loretta Lynch
« Last post by Battle on Today at 06:44:22 am »
Thursday, 23rd September  ~Two Thousand & Twenty One
2 Pigs Charged With Assaulting Black Motorist Being Sued for Damages in Federal Court
by Mary Ellen Cagnassola






A man in Georgia who was kicked and punched in the head by police four years ago during a traffic stop is suing the officers in federal court, claiming the stop and force used against him were unfounded, the Associated Press reported.

Demetrius Hollins was was pulled over by Gwinnett County Police Sergeant Michael Bongiovanni near Atlanta in 2017, when Hollins was 22.

He told reporters Wednesday that he still has "some kind of PTSD from this situation."

In video footage filmed by a witness, Bongiovanni appears to punch Hollins while Hollins is standing with his hands up as he steps out of his car.

Another video shows the police sergeant screaming at Hollins as he's handcuffed.

Hollins lies face-down on a busy intersection, and another officer, Robert McDonald, runs up and appears to kick Hollins' head.

Hollins filed the federal lawsuit earlier in September against Bongiovanni, McDonald, former Gwinnett County Police Chief Butch Ayers and the county.

The lawsuit alleges that Bongiovanni pulled Hollins over without justification and then retaliated with excessive force after Hollins began using his cellphone to record video of the encounter.

It says McDonald knew Hollins was not a threat when he arrived at the scene but still kicked Hollins in the head and held him down with a gun pressed to his head.

Both officers were fired the next day after video of the traffic stop surfaced.

They were subsequently charged with multiple crimes related to the stop.

Working phone numbers for the two could not immediately be found Wednesday, and online court records did not list a lawyer for either man who could comment on the charges.

The lawsuit also says Ayers, now the executive director of the Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police, was aware that officers in his department routinely used "unnecessary physical force when making arrests and searches" and that he signed off on use-of-force reports even though supervisors had decided to close the cases without further investigation or inquiry.

It also says the county's use-of-force procedure was unconstitutional because it "expressly authorized officers to use unnecessary, gratuitous, and disproportionate non-deadly physical force against citizens as a matter of routine procedure when making arrests and searches."

The county allowed unconstitutional policies and practices in use-of-force investigations, discipline, training and supervision to continue unchecked for nearly 20 years, the lawsuit says.

Ayers did not immediately respond Wednesday to an email seeking comment.

County attorney Mike Ludwiczak said the county does not comment on pending litigation.

As so often is the case in instances of police brutality, the officers were untruthful in their reports and the truth came out because video existed, said L. Chris Stewart, an attorney for Hollins.

After this incident, he said, Gwinnett County prosecutors had to throw out dozens of cases because they could not rely on the reports filed by these officers.

"The people of Gwinnett County suffered because of these officers," Stewart said.

Hollins was driving a red Acura Integra with no license plate and a brake light that did not work, and switched lanes three times without signaling, according to an incident report filed by Bongiovanni.

The lawsuit says Hollins obeyed traffic laws, had two functioning brake lights and his vehicle tag was visible through the rear window.

The lawsuit says the original stop "was not supported by actual or arguable reasonable suspicion or probable cause" to believe he had committed a traffic offense or violated any other law.

Even if the traffic stop had been justified, Bongiovanni acted "in an objectively unreasonable manner" in violation of Hollins' rights, it says.

In nearly 20 years with the department, Bongiovanni had previously reported 67 use-of-force incidents.

Only four were investigated and only because of formal citizen complaints, the lawsuit says.

He was ultimately exonerated in all four.

Officers must file a report whenever they use physical force against a person, and supervisors are supposed to investigate that use of force to make sure it is justified and complies with department policy.

But supervisors in the Gwinnett County Police Department routinely approved officers' reports and closed the cases without any investigation, the lawsuit says.

Almost all of Bongiovanni's prior use-of-force reports lacked sufficient information to determine whether they were justified, the lawsuit says. Additionally, Bongiovanni and McDonald had a history of using excessive force when responding to calls together, the lawsuit says.

Bongiovanni pleaded no contest in June 2019 to aggravated assault and battery and was sentenced to six months in a work-release program and 10 years' probation.

A jury in February 2020 found McDonald guilty of aggravated assault, battery and violating his oath of office, and he was sentenced to 10 years' probation.

The lawsuit, which was filed September 10th, asks for a jury trial and seeks compensatory and punitive damages, as well as attorneys' fees and legal expenses.





















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Hard Choices / Re: Real male or Real female?
« Last post by Battle on Today at 06:26:40 am »
Thursday, 23rd September  ~Two Thousand & Twenty One
LGBTQ Vets Discharged Have New Chance For Full Benefits
by Jonathan Franklin






Thousands of LGBTQ veterans who were discharged from the military under the "don't ask, don't tell" policy have gained new access to full government benefits from the Department of Veterans Affairs.

The announcement, issued Monday on the 10th anniversary of the repeal of don't ask, don't tell, will apply to veterans who were forced from service under the policy and given "other than honorable discharges" due to their sexual orientation, gender identity or HIV status.

The guidance was detailed in a blog post on the VA's website by Kayla Williams, assistant secretary for public affairs in the department's Office of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs.

It provides LGBTQ veterans the opportunity to receive assistance, ranging from mental health care and disability benefits to college money and home loans.

The announcement clarifies the existing rules in place but does not represent a specific legal change, officials said.

"At VA, we continuously work not only to meet the needs of LGBTQ+ Veterans, but also to address ongoing issues that LGBTQ+ Veterans face as a result of the military's decades-long official policy of homophobia and transphobia," Williams wrote.

The VA will begin to review case files and start to reinstate benefits to those eligible unless there were issues such as a criminal record, Williams said.

Don't ask, don't tell, which was put into place by then-President Bill Clinton on February 28th, 1994, prevented openly lesbian, gay and bisexual service members from serving in the military.

In 2010, then-President Barack Obama signed the repeal of the policy into law, which went into effect on September 20th, 2011.

Before the repeal, openly gay service members who were given an "other than honorable" discharge from the military were effectively blocked from the many services and benefits provided to veterans in the U.S., including access to medical care, financial compensation, pensions or a debt-free college education.

Additionally, those discharged were not allowed to reenlist in the military.

Williams, who is openly bisexual, said she chose to "present as straight" during the push to repeal don't ask, don't tell.

"It made sense at the time that there was a more pressing need for me as a woman married to a man to say, 'No one in my unit cared if anyone was gay while we were in Iraq,' " she said.

Williams said it took many years for her to let go of the "toxic legacy" of having served under the policy to "come back out of the closet."

Over the last 70 years, an estimated 100,000 military veterans either left or were kicked out of the service for their sexual orientation, and under don't ask, don't tell, many ultimately lost out on the opportunity for full VA benefits.

Lindsay Church, a Navy veteran who co-founded Minority Veterans of America, a nonprofit designed to focus on belonging and equity for underrepresented veterans, was involved when it came to pushing for service members discharged because of their sexuality to receive VA benefits.

"Even to overturn the policy wasn't enough to undo the harm and the damage that was done," Church said in an interview on NPR's All Things Considered.

"And so this moment is life-changing for so many people."

Williams says that while the trauma caused by the military's policy of discrimination against the LGBTQ+ community can't be erased, elected officials are taking appropriate steps to begin "addressing the pain" the policies built.

"LGBTQ+ Veterans are not any less worthy of the care and services that all Veterans earn through their service, and VA is committed to making sure that they have equal access to those services," she said.





















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