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Black Panther / Re: BP710:THE PROTOCOLS
« Last post by Ezyo on Today at 10:05:30 am »
I think RJ talked about it in the cbr forums at more length a while back and while his premise starts with T'Challa not being King and going y a superhero role, the end goal would put him back as King, but coming back to Wakanda and being King would also make him more then just King as well.

Personally, I think the best incarnation of T'Challa is how RJ is portraying him in Black Panther quest. Where he is juggling his kingly duties with being a hero, but I also don't mind him breaking away and focusing on one aspect and fleshing it out a bit more too.

I disagree with supreme about Tchalla being able to beat those guys as a group while being able to beat them solo. Honestly if they all teamed up against him, he would be them by using his resources, both Wakandan and his allies to best the group. I'm not a fan of the idea that he can just defeat then solo. He would out then into a even playing field and take then solo.

To me T'Challa isn't the "best" at any particular field. His top smartest, top H2h, natural born leader, dabbles in mystics, but he isnt the best. But he doesn't need to because all of hos strengths make him a unique danger because he has a mastery of it all, though isn't the best. Wakanda however is the most advanced nation.

To me ultimately T'Challa is. Warrior>King>superhero> scientist (tech as a whole is what I mean) in that order
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Black Panther / Re: BP710:THE PROTOCOLS
« Last post by supreme illuminati on Today at 08:36:38 am »
I liked how Priest had Ross describe Tchalla. Not a hero, but a ruler. Heroes dont put heads on pikes. Lol. I invision that he works with the Avengers because it keeps Wakanda safe on the larger scale.
If Marvel wanted to change direction with Tchalla and make him a traditional comic hero, I would appreciate it  if he stopped being BP or anything similar altogether. I dont personally think it will serve him well as he becomes like Mr. Terrific or Blue Marvel who struggle to get attention. As Supreme said all his aspects make him stand out in the comic community.

COSIGN!!
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Black Panther / Re: BP710:THE PROTOCOLS
« Last post by supreme illuminati on Today at 08:35:49 am »
>>>Supreme

You are a true Black Panther fan!  :)

Until I began frequenting HEF many years ago, I didn't even know Black Panther fans existed with exception to the guy who introduced me to the character way back in 1978.

Ta-Neishi Coates was a guest on MSNBC's ALL IN hosted by Chris Hayes a few days ago, following up discussion on the 'the first white president' article he scribed after the 2016 U.S. presidential election, this time after the 2018 mid-term elections.

I was expecting some mention on what he was doing for MARVEL's The Black Panther, alas, nothing spoken.  :-\

thank you for your kind words, Brother! I am humbled, my friend. And I'm not quite surprised that BP fans were so scarce your way that you didn't even know that a community of us existed until you came to HEF...the hate was strong until Priest laid the foundation and made the headway that was busted wide open and Donkey Kong'd by our own R to the H, then resuscitated to some smaller degree by Hickman [ who, despite the controversial other things he did, still gave T'Challa the premier feat of his Marvel existence with both his brilliant "battle of misdirection" vs God Doom and The 616 Restoration via The Infinity Gauntlet and The Reality Infinity Stone/Gem ].

I am so thoroughly off of TNC that I'm checking for nothing from him, and nothing he does surprises me.
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Black Panther / Re: BP710:THE PROTOCOLS
« Last post by CvilleWakandan on Yesterday at 08:52:49 pm »
I liked how Priest had Ross describe Tchalla. Not a hero, but a ruler. Heroes dont put heads on pikes. Lol. I invision that he works with the Avengers because it keeps Wakanda safe on the larger scale.
If Marvel wanted to change direction with Tchalla and make him a traditional comic hero, I would appreciate it  if he stopped being BP or anything similar altogether. I dont personally think it will serve him well as he becomes like Mr. Terrific or Blue Marvel who struggle to get attention. As Supreme said all his aspects make him stand out in the comic community.
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Black Panther / Re: BP710:THE PROTOCOLS
« Last post by Battle on Yesterday at 08:42:13 pm »
>>>Supreme

You are a true Black Panther fan!  :)

Until I began frequenting HEF many years ago, I didn't even know Black Panther fans existed with exception to the guy who introduced me to the character way back in 1978.

Ta-Neishi Coates was a guest on MSNBC's ALL IN hosted by Chris Hayes a few days ago, following up discussion on the 'the first white president' article he scribed after the 2016 U.S. presidential election, this time after the 2018 mid-term elections.

I was expecting some mention on what he was doing for MARVEL's The Black Panther, alas, nothing spoken.  :-\
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Vox Populi / Re: Stacey Abrams wins Democratic nomination in Georgia gov's race
« Last post by Battle on Yesterday at 08:16:29 pm »
Saturday, 17th November 2018
Gil Cisneros Wins House Seat, Capping Democratic Rout In California
The Navy veteran made affordable health care a central issue.
by Associated Press


LOS ANGELES (AP) — Democrat Gil Cisneros captured a Republican-held U.S. House seat in Southern California on Saturday, capping a Democratic rout in which the party picked up six congressional seats in the state.

In what had been the last undecided House contest in California, Cisneros beat Republican Young Kim for the state’s 39th District seat.

The Cisneros victory cements a stunning political realignment that will leave a vast stretch of the Los Angeles metropolitan area under Democratic control in the House.





Would You Like To Know More?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gil-cisneros-wins-house-seat-capping-democratic-rout-in-california_us_5bf0d03ee4b07573881f0edd
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Black Panther / Re: BP710:THE PROTOCOLS
« Last post by supreme illuminati on Yesterday at 02:44:14 pm »
Geoff Thorne – September, 2014, Los Angeles

WRITER’S NOTE: For many years now, comic book fandom has mistakenly referred to the Panther as “Marvel’s Batman.” In my opinion this has never been an accurate description.

 While their silhouette might be vaguely similar, the Black Panther has never been “that guy.” He’s not broken by tragedy and obsessed with crime (Batman). He’s not a mad scientist, good or bad (Dr. Doom or Reed Richards). He’s not a narcissistic genius (Tony Stark).

 He is a protector, an innovator, an explorer. He’s not Marvel’s Batman; he’s Marvel’s Doc Savage.


https://www.geoffreythorne.com/single-post/2018/11/15/MY-TAKE-BLACK-PANTHER-COMICS-ONLY





Facts.


While I absolutely love me some Redjack and airythang that I read above...and while I am siiiiiiccckkk that wakk ass Marvel passed on Geoff Thorne aka Redjack or Walker writing BP [ which we all know would have been infinitely more glorious than anything that sucka Turncoat Negro Chokes and his Bland Panther ever conjured ]...I am very much against the inclination toward the reduction of The Black Panther into something less than what he is.

But if you're going to do it? Do it how Thorne does it. Lemme make that clear.

Anyway, I look at Priest's analysis of the constituent parts of BP: King, Panther, man. The BLACK PANTHER garb identifies the titular leader of "The Panther Cult".  A person can be THE BLACK PANTHER and NOT be King. T'Challa can be King and NOT be BLACK PANTHER...an interpretation that MCU went with when they had KING T'Chaka get murdered in CIVIL WAR before PRINCE T'Challa THE BLACK PANTHER could save him.

The element that knits the above roles together is THE PERSON WHO BECOMES Black Panther, and/or King/Queen. Each of these three tightly interwoven facets need to be explored individually and collectively...without negating the other critical facets of who T'Challa is.

T'Challa himself was born a Prince. And was probably born heroic...which is NOT the same as being a hero. But he BECAME both a hero and The Black Panther. There is zero reason to downplay his royalty, his role as Black Panther, in order to emphasize his heroics. That's like trying to reduce a decathlete into a sprinter and a jumper. Nooooo. By doing so? You miss entirely that the extraodinary multiple skills of the decathlete is what makes the Decathlete...as acknowledged by the majority of all other high end athletes from all other sports...the most well rounded athlete, and The Best Decathlete recognized by acclaim as THE GREATEST ATHLETE IN THE WORLD.

Imo. T'Challa is HUMAN. Peak Human, but Human. And. T'Challa is Marvel's shrewdest, overall most capable noncosmic powered hero.

Is T'Challa smarter than Reed or Tony? There's plenty of evidence and reason to say that he IS, but...just for the sake of Marvel's continuity...let's say that he's NOT smarter. Let's just say that...for the purpose of argument...that Reed is better at his specialty than T'Challa is, and Tony is better at HIS specialty that T'Challa is. There is no way that such a thing could be true given Wakanda's history and achievements, but let's pretend that it is for the nonce.

T'Challa is STILL smarter than they are. Because: if Reed is the smartest of the mad scientists, T'Challa is the second smartest mad scientist, but a much better weaponeer and vastly superior at everything else. Tony may allegedly be a better weapons designer [ again, NO WAY is that possible given Wakanda's history, but let's pretend that it is ]. T'Challa is still smarter, because Tony is only a fractionally better weapons designer, but T'Challa is leagues ahead as a mad scientist and everything else. T'Challa is both smarter and more ruthless than Doctor Doom, with greater mystical defenses and vastly greater mystical resources visavis Wakanda as a nation...but T'Challa's spiritual strength makes him both unflinchingly noble and incapable of the megalomania, and narcissistic, unendingly arrogant corruption that eats at Victor. You get it now? T'Challa is either as capable as or fractionally less capable than Marvel's greatest proponent of such and such megaintellect, but T'Challa is leagues ahead of those same megageniuses in other factors of megagenius. T'Challa would not fall into the trap that most capes fall into; they repeatedly let monsters like The Joker and say Doctor Doom go. T'Challa would very effectively neutralize such threats the first time around, but were they to rise to a point where they actually threatened the survival of Wakanda? He would unhesitatingly execute them. Such an action clearly saves tens of thousands of lives and billions of dollars of damage over the coming years. There is nothing ignoble about eliminating permanently threats like Doom, Thanos, The Joker, etc. if they prove themselves incapable of being held indefinitely in incarceration.

This also puts T'Challa's Rogues Gallery in a unique position. For if, say, Baron Macabre threatened Wakanda? T'Challa would execute him. That's another reason why many of Wakanda's most unique and powerful villains and/or destructive forces never rose to threaten the rest of the world. The Black Panthers and Wakanda destroyed them all, while they were yet residing in Wakanda. This is also why Wakanda interacts with the likes of Doctor Voodoo, Blade, Blue Marvel and Spectrum, etc around the world: these heroes are able to engage and remove threats that could at some point rise to threaten Wakanda. This is also why Wakanda via T'Challa employs characters like Elektra, Wolverine, X-23, Deadpool, Sabertooth, The Trapster and even groups like The Thunderbolts...all through the appropriate legit cutouts keeping Wakandan fingerprints from their operations...in order to permanently remove threats using methods that various big name capes wouldn't use. This simultaneously keeps Wakanda free of various entanglements while allowing Wakanda to effortlessly and economically keep close tabs on all facets of the supercape community.

T'Challa is the most multitalented, most balanced megagenius in the MU. Moreso than Thanos, as well. That's why none of them singly or as a group can defeat him, but he can by himself defeat all of them. This same reality is what makes him the unbeatable prep beast that he is...and which powers the comparisons to vintage Ras al Ghul [ who out-Batman'd The Batman ] and Batman himself. This great ability of T'Challa's as the Supercape equivalent of the Academic Decathlete Grand Champion plus the long standing achievements and longest human history of Wakanda are what gives T'Challa the more plausible explanation that Batman doesn't have for the uberprep uberbeast abilities that he routinely displays. This single solution also allows T'Challa to be the sole author of Wakanda's futuristic leap like in classic Marvel canon, without jeopardizing the tech roles and geniuses of Shuri, Lunella, Riri, etc. Shuri is better at her suite of specialties than T'Challa is. T'Challa is, however, her equal in one of her specialties and nearly her equal in her suite of specialties...plus T'Challa is far and away better AT EVERYTHING ELSE than she is. This reality preserves her role in the Dalia and in tech via the MCU plus keeps the dynamic that R to the H had for Shuri and T'Challa in RH's books.

Imo, the real writer comes up with ways to NOT jettison the past, but instead weave all the foregoing into the new and compelling NOW that breaks ground in direction, characterization, etc for THE BLACK PANTHER, THE ROYALS, ALL OF WAKANDA...yet seamlessly binds BP and the rest of the MU more and more tightly together. Remember when Maberry wrote Shuri? Think that his Shuri didn't have a significant impact on Lunella and Riri? Think again. Think that his Shuri didn't have an impact on America Chavez, Kamala Khan, Black Cat, Silk, Falcon, Battlestar, Moses Magnum, Tigra, etc etc? Think again. How could Shuri in the initial blush of her Princess Regent flowering into Queen NOT have drastically impacted the entire world? Especially since she was then and now more ready to go to blatant war about things than T'Challa the shadowy schemer is. All of this? Should be part of Wakanda's and Marvel's lore. How do you think Maberry Shuri interact with younger Captain Marvel?

How could Queen Ramonda NOT have been the leading light of Marvel's mortal women? Linked up or hotboxed with Hera, Hela, Baba Yaga the Russian Witch, Kang the Conqueror, Cybele the Queen of the Eternals, Juno the daughter of Saturn and Queen of Roman gods, Clea, Satanna, Valkyrie, The Gorgons, Selena the vampire/succubus from The Hell's Club, etc etc?

Why is that stuff important? Because ALL OF THAT WOULD IMPACT T'CHALLA IN EVERY WAY. And that info? Would be part of the foundation T'Challa used to deal with the 616 at large.

T'Challa is NOT Marvel's Doc Savage. Doc Savage is a partial incarnation of a much downgraded and diluted T'Challa in pulp literature.
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Writing / General Mills Monster Cereals: Write Our Movie!
« Last post by Hypestyle on Yesterday at 04:06:23 am »
General Mills wants "credentialed professionals" to submit pitches for multi-media projects featuring their monster-cereal characters like Count Chocula, FrankenBerry, BooBerry, etc.

https://www.workwiththemonsters.com

Wow. I suppose this was inevitable.  And it looks as if the company is "serious" about working with folks who have some experience in film/TV productions.

I suppose if I had to pitch something, it would be a whimsical fantasy, something that younger kids could watch.  Absolutely no need to turn this into a "dark" interpretation.

On a deeper level, I suppose some folks will lean in on what it means to potentially have a 90-minute "sugar" cereal commercial out there, but I'll leave that alone for now..   ;D
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Hard Choices / Best/Worst TV Commercial Use of a Mike/Prince Song
« Last post by Hypestyle on Yesterday at 03:41:54 am »
Oddly enough, it's the same company/product for both...  lol..

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Capital One Savor Card  (Michael)  Don't stop 'til you get enough

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Capital One Savor Card (Prince) Let's go crazy

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