Author Topic: Ice T On Gwyneth Paltrow Using The N-word: ‘Leave [Her] Alone’  (Read 169 times)

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http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/thats-really-week/june-4-10-ice-t-gwyneth-paltrow-using-145824657.html

Gwyneth Paltrow was the subject of much debate this week. While jet-setting in Paris at Jay-Z and Kanye West's "Watch The Throne" concert, she joined them from the sidelines of the stage, took a camera phone photo and posted it on social media sites Who Say and Twitter. The problem was her caption that included the title Jay-Z and Kanye's controversial song, "N-ggas In Paris."
Some have attacked Paltrow for typing "ni**gas in paris for real" underneath a photo of two African Americans, Jay-Z and Beyonce. Others like Russell Simmons, The Dream, and now Ice T have come to her defense.

Veteran rapper Ice T, who has freely used the N-word in his lyrics since the 1980s, believes the slams on Paltrow are unwarranted. "The Internet has allowed a bunch of dumb people to say dumb things. Gwyneth Paltrow typed the name of the f—king record," the "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" actor told Yahoo! Music's The Aftermath in an exclusive interview. "Leave Gwyneth Paltrow alone. We got wars going on. We got real issues. People have nothing else to say. People want to talk sh-t about Gynweth Paltrow. Is she a racist? If she was really racist, she wouldn't be listening to rap music to begin with. So shut the f—k up and leave Gwyneth Paltrow alone."

Ice T, who also stars in the reality series "Ice Loves Coco" with his wife Coco Austin, said he does not have a problem with people who are not African American using the N-word when singing a rap song. "If you a rap fan and you listening to the damn record … if you singing the words, you get a pass. That's part of the record. I wrote it. You lip syncing me."
Ice T, who releases his new documentary "Something From Nothing: The Art Of Rap" on June 15, said using the word is about a universal rule of respect that he applies to other "inside words." "So if the word does not pertain to you, you don't say it," he said. "If you ain't fat don't call anyone fat. If you ain't Jewish don't say Jewish slang. If you're not Italian don't say Italian slang."
By the same token, Ice T understands why some people are upset with Paltrow for posting the N-word online. "It's an inside word so use it at your own risk … As far as Gwyneth Paltrow, ain't she Jay-Z's [daughter's] godmother? So she f—ks with black people. Leave [her] alone."
Paltrow isn't the only celebrity with a disagreement brewing online. Soul goddess Erykah Badu and Flaming Flips frontman Wayne Coyne have been fighting via Twitter all week. Last week, Coyne released a music video for the group's cover of Roberta Flack's "First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" featuring Badu's vocals. The video features Badu and her sister in various nude scenes. Badu argues that she hates the final edit and that Coyne released the video without her approval.


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Re: Ice T On Gwyneth Paltrow Using The N-word: ‘Leave [Her] Alone’
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2012, 10:35:40 AM »
http://tinyurl.com/7lvz2zd

...In interviews, such as with Tanning of America author/hip-hop manager Steve Stoute, Paltrow is upfront about having been a rap music fan while growing up, even name-checking the likes of N.W.A.  When Paltrow's tweet went viral, any number of celebrity culture blogs and even mainstream news-talk programs brought it up.  Meanwhile, an assortment of hip-hop culture personalities like Nas, Ice-T, Russell Simmons and The Dream have come to her defense.  More often than not, Paltrow's buddy-credibility with rappers has been mentioned and the relatively innocuous context of N-word being said among knowledgable friends, particularly when spelled with an 'a' rather than 'er'.


This author is not so cynical as to equate Ms. Paltrow with the Ku Klux Klan for her tweet. However, what hasn't been discussed (the surface was scraped with Russell Simmons' response) is how people are going to be more nuanced in facilitating cross-cultural communication in this post-post-hip-hop America (and the world.)


For the better part of three decades people across national/ethnic lines have been assimilating hip-hop's music, street slang, dance moves, graphic designs and politics.. but for those younger folks (and those now grown) who were already of a background that could be largely considered "establishment"/middle-America, do they simply have "empathy" for the "ghetto/minority experience", are they willing to make personal choices that, at least in some small individual way, counteract the cultural/political traditions that led to "the 'hood" to begin with? Can you be 'hip-hop down' but hate the idea of visiting downtown Detroit (or a neighorhood non-profit) for a day? Does loving Jay & Kanye's lavish-life themes mean you endorse the idea of expanding the social safety net, or are you more of a free-market and tax-free absolutist like Mitt Romney and his Bain Capital peeps, since, clearly, those guys are "making that cheddar "?


Let's face it, for a lot of folks who grew up in the 'hood, there's always been a certain counter-cultural novelty context to seeing whitebread Caucasians (and other ethnics, including outer-suburban reared blacks) speaking urban-slang, however awkwardly or adeptly. Often times this is met with laughter, or for those who've been granted a 'pass', "yo, you my boy/girl" accolades [and for however long the fellowship lasts, at the concert, club, party, etc., there's an unstated solidarity along the lines of "we're all some n_____ up in here!"]


But when the lights come on and people go back to their daily lives...


Is Gwyneth going to get passed over by taxis now, in NY or Paris? Is she likely to face being detained by police for extended periods without explanation?  Would the Louis Vuitton store clerks usher her out if she says "she just wants to browse"?  Ummm.... I don't care how many celebrity rap/R&B folks are friends with or being godparents to their kids, I don't want to see Paltrow or Chris Martin-types walking up to me (or near me) at a restaurant and popping off with the n-bombs like it’s just another accepted insult-turned-term of endearment (e.g., d*ck, b*tch, d*uche, a**hole, etc.)


For countless groupings of people, “my n***as” is an accepted private joke. But a private joke, by definition, means that not everyone is in on the gag. Sometimes for good reason.  Not every person, even when they intellectually understand the cultural nuances of how an historical slur-word/phrase has evolved, and how often it may have been used in their own families and neighborhoods, is on board with said word/phrase becoming the equivalent of a marketing brand.  No, symbolic burials won't make it go away (sorry, NAACP) but pretending that taste in music or fashion automatically equates with facilitating social justice is just as naive.

The rappers and others who dismiss ‘Gwyneth-gate’ as meaning nothing are either clueless or just aren’t being fully honest about addressing the broader issues at work here.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2012, 12:41:27 PM by Hypestyle »