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While the world remains transfixed by the Apple v. Samsung ruling in California, Samsung just quietly won a significant victory over Apple in Japan.

A Tokyo court struck down an injunction request by Apple yesterday to bar 8 Samsung devices from Japan, according to Bloomberg. Even more, the court ordered Apple to pay the entirity of Samsung's legal fees. Samsung shares rose 1.6 percent after the ruling, while Apple shares fell as much as 2.1 percent on German trading floors.
Even though the ruling isn't nearly as big of a deal as the one handed down in California last week, it's still a good sign.  Japan is known as strong at intellectual property, leading analyst Kim Hyon Sik to say "the mood is turning positive for Samsung."
 
In fact, it looks as if Samsung is doing better in many courts outside the U.S. On August 24th, a Korean court called it a stalemate between Apple and Samsung, penalizing both companies (almost) equally. Apple was ordered to stop selling the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPad 1 and iPad 2 in South Korea, while Samsung must stop selling 12 products including the Galaxy S, Galaxy S II and Galaxy Tab.

Meanwhile, in Australia, a preliminary ban on the Galaxy 10.1 was overturned by the highest court in December.
It's easy to look at Apple's victory over Samsung and think that Sammy is going downhill, but the truth is much more complex. Not only does the Korean smartphone giant have a lead over Apple worldwide, they have a good chance of appealing their most recent guilty verdict. Don't consider the California ruling the last word, by any means.

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Re: Samsung's Having Better Luck with Foreign Courts: Beats Apple in Japan
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2012, 10:21:00 am »
I don't think Apple's intention was to topple Samsung but to thwart them from capitalizing on their respective properties while they are making gains in the marketplace.
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Re: Samsung's Having Better Luck with Foreign Courts: Beats Apple in Japan
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2012, 12:57:29 pm »
I don't Apple's intention was to topple Samsung but to thwart them from capitalizing on thier respective properties while they are making gains in the marketplace.

Remember: Turnabout is fair play.

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HTC: Quietly Banning The iPhone 5? Did S*it Just Get Real?
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2012, 01:02:12 pm »
Samsung’s lawyers are already preparing to wage war on the new iPhone should it arrive with LTE capability, and it seems that HTC might even be one step further in using the same strategy. So far in fact, that ITC Judge Thomas Pender recently stated that unless Apple can invalidate 2 HTC LTE patents that are currently in question, that HTC could end up successfully banning the new iPhone and newest iPad. Did s*it just get real? (Update at the bottom)

Apparently it has. Judge Pender of the International Trade Commision  doesn’t seem to be playing favorites in regards to the patents in question, and it seems that HTC might actually have a legitimate shot at banning the new flagship device when it arrives this week (assuming it arrives with LTE). HTC is accusing Apple of violating 2 patents that they currently own, which both deal with transmitting a large amount of data. These patents are apparently critical to 4G (LTE) technology, and if the new iPhone is using this technology, things could get pretty hectic this week for the Cupertino company.
If this were to actually happen, it could basically force Apple into a settlement, and would be a major patent win for Android. As Samsung is also looking to use their LTE patents as a weapon against the new iPhone, it would appear that Apple will certainly have their hands full if they want to release an LTE enabled iPhone 5.
HTC added LTE capability early in the game in order to attempt to compete with Samsung and their 4G enabled phones, and HTC lawyer Tom Jarvis stated that HTC was the first to sell 4G enabled Android devices (along with being the creator of the first Android phone, the HTC Dream/T-Mobile G1). The 4G patents that HTC holds were purchased back in April of 2011, and were bought for 75 million dollars.

Judge Pender seems to be taking those patents pretty seriously, as he was very direct in telling Apple lawyer Michael McKeon “I don’t care if they bought these patents to sue you or not. They are a property right”. He also stated that he most likely wouldn’t side with Apple’s argument stating that proper ownership rights of the patents weren’t obtained by HTC. Judge Pender also went on to say that it could be pretty difficult for Apple to invalidate the 2 patents in question, which must be making Apple feel pretty nervous at this point.
As much as I absolutely HATE the patent wars, it’s really nice to see Android OEMs giving Apple a taste of their own medicine. Will HTC and Samsung be able to successfully pull off a ban on the new iPhone and iPad?
Considering that the new iPhone is scheduled to be released this week (September 12th), we most likely won’t have to wait long to find out.


UPDATE: HTC Chairwoman Cher Wang has publically stated that HTC will NOT settle with Apple. She went on to say that "Samsung's defeat does not mean that Google Inc's Android camp is defeated", as HTC seems very upset with the result of the Apple Vs Samsung verdict. It would appear that HTC is not so much in this for the money, but more so to prove a point.
 
An iPhone ban could be seriously damaging for Apple in 2012 and 2013, and with a ban set directly in HTC's sights, Apple and their new flagship device will apparently have a huge battle on  their hands this week when the iPhone is released.