Reply to Genki SudoAnd New York flip flops on Spider-Man, one minute they love him and the next he ain't worth a squirrel fart I could throw in Mcgregor, Priest and Hudlin as counter points especially when bringing up Doomwar which went to Roy Thomas levels of train wreck
New York flip flopping on Spider-man is culturally consistent especially due to the media campaign launched by JJJ. Precisely why McGregor, Priest and Hudlin were not mentioned.
Whatever the story calls for minus the non available time to introduce a new character, we don't know if after T'Challa if there is another wakandan who out of thin air with no background story or previous mention rivals T'Challa in intellect and let us not forget that T'Challa himself ventured outside of Wakanda to expand his brain. Remember T'Challa when in charge was all about opening Wakandan borders to a certain point like his father
The story calls for whatever the writer chooses to write. They can write the Black Panther being in need or autonomous. What non available time? New characters are introduced ad nauseam. Ross, Zuri, Hunter, Achebe, the Dora Milaje, the Hatut Zeraze, Casper Cole, Shuri, Sofija. What in story benefit was derived from opening Wakandan boarders to a "certain point?"
We saw as much what was going to happen when he would tell his sister that public enemy number one has come in and out of Wakanda more then once, there's nothing that comes out of that conversation with everything being close to ok and that's not even getting into the fact that public enemy number two the former queen and her sex partner after sneaking in also got to leave with a handshake and a thanks for coming.
T'Challa was written as ultimately for saving the universe he would have to betray everything he holds dear
Tchalla confiding in Shuri would have removed the betrayal felt by her, the Dora Milaje and the Hatut Zeraze. Could he not have been written saving the universe without betraying everything he holds dear? Could he have been written instead betraying Namor? Of course, writer's preference.
And he is also depicted as a winner, the vibranium was never really lost so I don't know why bringing up Doomwar again does as the ending to that was quickly changed by Hickman and even a little bit by Liss. Let's not forget that T'Challa also owned Kingpin in a game of wits which is rarely a way the Kingpin has been depicted as being beaten, he broke Red Skull's jaw after telling him he would do so and he's helped stop incursions. Doom is the unfans fav mary sue( and some writers fav mary sue as well ) with the only one to ever get a clean one up on him that was accepted by unfans is the loss to Squirrel Girl and that should tell you something and he didn't lose Storm since she lost him and then claimed to not know the why of it all( and you could make a case for her being gone as a good thing ).
The bolden part of your statement supports my argument. If he is to be seen as both winner and loser, the loses have often had the greater impact. I didn't just bring up Doomwar, I brought examples of his loses. The Kingpin was a credible victory as was the Red Skull. As far as Doom is concerned Hyperstorm,Tiger Wylde, Terrax and Kristoff Vernard have gotten some work in. If the Punisher, Cloak and Dagger and Luke Cage can score one in the win column... the point being Tchalla should have never suffered such a loss in the manner he did. Bottom line with Storm, no marriage, no royal lineage, no power couple and the loss of such great potential. Yea Tchalla lost something special despite how Ororo is being depicted in the Xmen.
These characters don't write themselves, which is why I try to seperate in story logic from the often unknown motivations of the writer.
They've always been close the only difference now is that it's being played up more then just getting a quick mention and then moved away from
Reed was inconsequential during Tchalla receiving the mantle of King of the Dead. Their commonality always lied in science not spiritual matters of which Reed is in a deficit.
He wouldn't be in their debt, back in the tail end of the first issue he makes a point in his narration box to mention that by bringing together this group he walked away from that he has damned himself no matter what
And that is why T'Challa shined here and Hickman is deserving of the praise he's been getting no matter how much some fans want to throw hissy fits and complain
So Tchalla and the Golden City are not indebted to the Illuminati for saving the latter. From the battles scenes I've seen I'm not sure how much more superior fire power they brought. We agree Tchalla does shine in New Avengers. I haven't been privy to some fans throwing hissy fits and complaining about Hickman's BP.
Which is what T'Challa was written as knowing and why he kept Namor being there a secret, the Doras in the second issue even mention they fear how Shuri and the people of Wakanda would react if they found out Namor was there and with this issue we found out, that type of lazy writing my fly over in the x-world but outside of that the creative team involved tend to hope that their fans are more receptive to great storytelling then half assedness
Again we agree on how Hickman handled the Wakandans ( Shuri, The Dora Milaje and the Hatut Zeraze) response to Tchalla haboring Namor.
Then that would have altered things as Thanos wouldn't have come to Wakanda and gotten hold of the bombs, Namor is one guy who's writting checks that his ass soon won't be able to cash anymore
Indeed it would have altered things entirely. It may haved spared the Golden City and Tchalla would not have lost respect.
And who ever said they were to be there permanently as the Illuminati have been basically jumping from trouble spot to trouble spot with a rare break few and between, there's also the fact that someone might ask who is that they're bringing in when again the goal is secrecy
I never said they would be there permanently. It just a massive powder keg with the anti-matter bombs, Terax, Thanos and Proxima waiting for Black Swan to lite the fuse. I favor the idea of Tchalla having to engage in such a situation.
This is mainly about T'Challa any and all full things Wakandan would need to be handled in a solo series which this is not. New Avengers isn't a T'Challa solo title, wanting all of that in a title called New Avengers is a wasted effort. In fact Hickman and company don't even have to write T'Challa as well as they have been doing let alone the linchpin of this comic
My comments are mindful and more directed towards a Black Panther solo series.
With that said I don't know why you're nitpicking things you know given about the book, that's like me going on about how Mighty avengers hasn't built up Blue Marvel like it's his solo title
I am not nick picking
Genki. I remember the first time I read Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns, Alan Moore's Watchmen and Neil Gaiman's Sandman; they were perfect reads to me. Masterful in every detail. I felt an almost overwhelming sense of comic book satiety. They set a standard for me. I desire to achieve that same level of satisfaction with the Black Panther.
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Genki it isn't nick picking. God is in the details. I think some writers read our comments and find value in them. That among other reasons is why I post critical insight. No
Genki it isn't nick picking, its simply a request.