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BP710 Story Ideas     Deadlines for selection: November 22, 2017

Death Be Not Proud-The final days of T'Chaka the Black Panther
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Lost in Space-The search for the Vibranium asteroid field
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Doomwar-The Black Payback: T'Challa v Doom as it should've been
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Black on Black violence-The on panel fight between the Black Panther and Black Dwarf
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Where is the Love-The romance of T'Challa and Ororo
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Sweat of the Panther-Steampunk Wakanda
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Beware Of Geek's Reply #4210 on: October 22, 2017, 07:39:29 am
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Battle's Supreme nomination  Reply #4208 on: October 22, 2017, 04:59:32 am
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Kickin' it with Kip Lewis Reply #4238 on: October 25, 2017, 08:21:20 pm
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Re: BP710:THE PROTOCOLS - PANTHER X
« Reply #4620 on: September 20, 2019, 11:59:45 am »
THE VIBRANIUM TRUMPET

BREAKING NEWS...BREAKING NEWS...BREAKING NEWS...BREAKING NEWS...BREAKING NEWS...


The Vibranium Trumpet   *** Sounding the alarm... ***    The Vibranium Trumpet   *** Sounding the alarm... ***


In the midst of completing the upcoming chapter of Panther X, our editors uncovered information that could lead to a violent conflict between Wakanda and the newly formed mutant nation of Krakoa.

One of our covert correspondents  while attending the UN Security Council meeting was able to use his Kimoyo beads to download the following information direct from Prof. X's Cerebro.






Basically drawing a line in the sand, the mutants are saying you are either with us or against us. The question on the lips of some Wakandans is... where does Storm, former queen and current love interest of King T'Challa allegiance lie?

The question that should be on the lips of every Krakoan mutant is... do they think they stand a chance of even coming close to defeating Wakanda? Especially now that Wakanda is unifying much of the African continent through the Wakandan Economic Protectorate.

Not to mention the Intergalactic Empire of Wakanda which has already conquered three galaxies. War is not something Wakanda seeks out but it damn sure is something we are great at. Krakoan mutants remember what the Skrulls saw when they came to see Wakanda.


The views and opinion expressed by the author do not necessarily reflect those of the Vibranium Trumpet, just those of all true Wakandans. WAKANDA FOREVER!
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« Reply #4621 on: September 20, 2019, 01:29:18 pm »
I like the idea of a Wakandan mini newspaper. What if we started a thread for the Vb trumpet where we all acted like we're in WK and write articles on current events in the comics and auxiliary things.

I am curious what their version of a protectorate looks like, but I dont thin Hickman will go that deep. The rejection and protectorate system could be a result of the new govt., if it exist yet.

I would like to see some political tension between Krakoa and WK, but I'd only trust Hudlin if there was a war.
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« Reply #4622 on: September 20, 2019, 01:48:47 pm »
I like the idea of a Wakandan mini newspaper. What if we started a thread for the Vb trumpet where we all acted like we're in WK and write articles on current events in the comics and auxiliary things.

I am curious what their version of a protectorate looks like, but I dont thin Hickman will go that deep. The rejection and protectorate system could be a result of the new govt., if it exist yet.

I would like to see some political tension between Krakoa and WK, but I'd only trust Hudlin if there was a war.


Sounds like fun.

I am in full support of the Wakandan Economic Protectorate for Afraka and its diaspora. It about time Wakanda was once again shown to be helping the mother continent. I like to think the idea of such was T'Challa's as he sees the long term benefits for all concerned. Though doubtful maybe Hickman and Coates will collaborate and expound on the concept.

Total agree on the political tension. As I write Panther X I enjoy the ideological debates between mutants and Wakandans as well. Another total agree on Hudlin penning the war. This time however T'Challa takes no "Ls."
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« Reply #4623 on: September 20, 2019, 01:57:47 pm »
Also interesting are the countries listed. Azania is apartheid South Africa and Cannan is Liberia. I'm going to need more info before I'm on board.

There is the council of African Nations that Nnedi created, but so much if that was obtuse.

Lot of changes going on in the background that need fleshing out.
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« Reply #4624 on: September 20, 2019, 02:13:26 pm »
Agreed. I would have Wakanda liberate Azania and Cannan from their tyrants... the Supremacists and their government and Mosses Magnum respectively thus leading to their coming under the WEP. I favor the Wakandan Economic Protectorate over Nnedi's council of African Nations. It a great title and gives gravitas to Wakanda.

Lots of changes indeed.
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« Reply #4625 on: September 20, 2019, 03:07:46 pm »
Ever notice how loaded the Black Panther comic franchise is...

The Majestic Black Panther - main book (BP needed a descriptive adjective as is Marvel tradition) with stories wholly centered on T'Challa with detail paid to supporting cast and villains. Big stories, long arcs.

Black Panther's World of Wakanda - all those stories of Wakandan lore and history. The melding of science fiction and fantasy with T'Challa and other Black Panthers leading the narrative. First major summer cross over event World War Wakanda!

Black Panther's Crew - urban, street level adventures of Kasper Cole leading a team of young heroes as he is mentored by T'Challa.

Black Panther Ascension - (aka Rise of the Black Panther) retelling of T'Challa's past adventures with a dash of retcon. For example the Black Panther's first meeting with Shang Chi; the romance with Malakia; first contact with Captain Mar-vel.

Black Panther Marvel Action - telling the animated adventures of BP's hit new cartoon series with a bit more detail. Make it so.

Ultimate Black Panther - cosmic level adventures with all the cosmic greats (Kree, Shi'ar, Brood and Skrulls etc.) and galaxy hoping as T'Challa and his team copes with leading the Intergalactic Empire of Wakanda

Black Panther's Agents of Wakanda - adventures of T'Challa and his agents along with Okoye as they service the Afrakan continent and the world while building the Wakandan Economic Protectorate.

Black Panther's sister Shuri - MCU Shuri up and running in the pages of a comic book as she and her MCU brother face the challenges of family and nation together.

Black Panther and Storm - all the adventures Ororo and T'Challa had before they got married. Plus  the dealings with those Uncanny X Men,

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« Reply #4626 on: September 20, 2019, 03:24:28 pm »
I'd do Agents of Wakanda as a four man team of young Wakandans whose job it is to recover WK tech and Vb that has either been stolen on mishandled by its intended receiver.

For Shuri I'd move her to Oakland with her own startup business and do traditional comic stories from there.

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« Reply #4627 on: September 20, 2019, 04:07:53 pm »
I would incorporate your four man team into Agents as a special branch and call them Wakandan Recovery, T'Challa's own Damage Control. I'd do some stories with Shuri in Oakland as well as some with her helping out the Crew but I wouldn't base her there. I would use her to help flesh out Wakanda's tech and it exports across Afraka and the Diaspora.
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« Reply #4628 on: September 21, 2019, 05:56:30 am »
I would do Agents of Wakanda ( of we weren't using other Marvel heroes) as the way to have Kasper Cole, Akili (Coates MVP of S1) and two other new characters as a team of elite HZ. Running espionage, black ops, and recovery of Wakandan tech. Hell I'd even use Kasper, Akili, and Okoye as the foundation of AoW and then use other marvel heroes like Roz and Janet and other's to fill the roster with BP bad the overseer of it all like he is in the book now. But AoW would actually have Wakandans in it.

I still like the idea of what they're trying to do by using abstract characters, but a core of 3-4 BP characters (BP being the fourth) is how I would go about it.

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« Reply #4629 on: September 21, 2019, 07:48:05 pm »
I would do Agents of Wakanda ( of we weren't using other Marvel heroes) as the way to have Kasper Cole, Akili (Coates MVP of S1) and two other new characters as a team of elite HZ. Running espionage, black ops, and recovery of Wakandan tech. Hell I'd even use Kasper, Akili, and Okoye as the foundation of AoW and then use other marvel heroes like Roz and Janet and other's to fill the roster with BP bad the overseer of it all like he is in the book now. But AoW would actually have Wakandans in it.

I still like the idea of what they're trying to do by using abstract characters, but a core of 3-4 BP characters (BP being the fourth) is how I would go about it.


I could run with this especially if T'Challa had his Ultimates team for back up.
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« Reply #4630 on: September 27, 2019, 10:31:47 am »
THIS IS


THE BLACK PANTHER


WE HAVE BEEN


WAITING FOR!


THE MOST DANGEROUS MAN ALIVE
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« Reply #4631 on: September 28, 2019, 11:24:22 am »
I said it at the CBR forum's and I'll say it here. The way the accent's are used in this book has been stellar. The shadowing and subtle detail put into the Black habit to not make T'Challa look like a Shadow with eyeballs has been great. Then when he uses his tech: solar flare against the vamps, force push, consecrated napalm, and celestial energy the habit lights up with thr accent's.. I'm actually legit stoked how they are being used. It's how I would use them if I were writing a story to let the readers visually see when he is using certain tech

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« Reply #4632 on: September 28, 2019, 01:38:09 pm »
It doesn't take much. Just let T'Challa the Black Panther be who he is as outlined in his origin by Lee and Kirby; world build on essential writers of BP like McGregor, Priest, Hudlin, McDuffie, Liss, Evans and Aaron (on his better days); take the the good and leave the bad from the likes of Maberry and Coates; get inspiration from Cooler and Thorne and let BP fandom rejoice. Simple.
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« Reply #4633 on: October 09, 2019, 05:34:14 pm »
Surprising New Data Shows Comic Readers Are Leaving Superheroes Behind

Rob Salkowitz



A day after New York Comic Con put an exclamation mark on the media dominance that superheroes exert over today’s entertainment and popular culture, data was shared in a private industry conference indicating that a massive shift in the comics publishing industry has reached a tipping point. For the first time that anyone can remember, superheroes are being outsold in their native medium – American comic books and graphic novels – by other kinds of content, notably kid-oriented fare and Japanese (or Japanese-inspired) manga.

The sales trends behind this shift were laid out by longtime industry analyst Milton Griepp at a conference organized by his company ICv2 (disclosure: I am a contributor to ICv2 and participated in the conference), held at Pace University in downtown New York. ICv2, in conjunction with metrics site Comichron, gathers market data on the North American comics industry, tracking sales of periodicals, trade books (aka “graphic novels,”) and download-to-own digital comics.

Sizing the market for comics has become a complicated process. After comic books vanished from newsstands in the early 1980s, nearly all periodical comic books were sold through a network of independently-owned retail comic shops. The comics are distributed through a single firm, Diamond, in an arrangement known as the “direct market.” Because this inventory is non-returnable, the number of copies ordered and shipped to comic stores are counted as sales, even if they do not sell through to customers at retail.

Graphic novels are sold in the direct market and also to trade book stores, with consumer sales tracked through the book industry standard system Bookscan, now owned and managed by media metrics firm The NPD Group. Together, about 90% of comics and graphic novels in North America are sold through book stores or comic stores, with 9% going through digital services like Amazon’s Kindle or the Amazon-owned comiXology, and about 1% sold on newsstands or through Kickstarter.ICv2 has estimated the total value of this market at $1.095 billion in the US and Canada in 2018, up modestly from 2017’s $1.015 billion.




Typically, increases in the overall market are driven by the comic industry’s two largest companies, Marvel (owned by Disney), and DC (a part of AT&T’s WarnerMedia group), which both publish corporate-owned superhero comics almost exclusively and together account for about 80% of all comics sold through the direct market.

But for the last several years, the trade book channel has become an increasingly significant driver of revenue, gaining double-digit year over year increases as comic store sales have declined. ICv2 estimates that bookstore sales accounted for $465M in 2018, compared to $510M in the direct market. When you add in the digital and other channels, direct market sales fell under 50% of the total for the first time since comic shops overtook newsstand distribution in the early 1980s.

While comic shops tend to focus on longtime fans - often older readers who grew up on and collect superhero comics – mass-market bookstores sell to everyone, including younger readers and those outside of traditional comics fandom. Consequently, the books that are selling in bookstores are, generally, not superhero-oriented. According to Bookscan data shared at the conference, kid-oriented comics and graphic novels account for a whopping 41% of sell-through at bookstores; manga is 28%. Superhero content is less than 10%, down 9.6% year-over-year.




That trend away from capes and cowls is also starting to be reflected even within the more insular comic store market with the arrival of a more diverse audience with different tastes. ICv2 notes a massive shift in the past two years, with kid-oriented titles for readers age 6-18 up 20% in comic store sales and 39% in bookstores, manga up 41% in comics stores and 5% in bookstores, while superhero graphic novels (typically collections of previously-issued periodicals) fell 10% in bookstores and 15% in comic shops.

Though full-year 2019 data is not yet available, it’s clear that the popularity of younger-reader material has accelerated with the unprecedented success of Dav Pilkey’s latest Dog Man graphic novel (initial print run: 5 million) and YA graphic novelist Raina Telgemeier’s latest, Guts, rocketing to the top of the overall best seller list in its first week of release.

Meanwhile, despite the media dominance of superheroes on every screen, the superhero side of the publishing business has been mired in a slump, outside of a few isolated successes like Marvel’s new X-Men relaunch, sporadic DC releases like Doomsday Clock and landmark issues of long-running series.

As Griepp pointed out in his presentation, the sales of superhero-oriented trade books generally follow the trends of periodicals by about 12-18 months (the usual time it takes for publishers to issue collected editions of recent storylines), so those numbers are likely to be even worse when 2019 data is tabulated. Superhero-adjacent genres like horror and science fiction also saw a slump in trade sales with the declining popularity of longtime best-seller The Walking Dead and the breakout series Saga on a publishing hiatus.

Meanwhile, sales of Asian-style manga – already one of the decade’s fastest-growing content categories – have benefited from the availability of animated series on streaming networks like Hulu and Netflix. Another presenter at the conference, NPD Executive Director of Business Development Kristen McLean, shared data showing a clear correlation between binge-watching of popular anime series and subsequent purchase of related manga content.

When you put all that together, it paints a stark picture. Superheroes represent a declining share of the fastest-growing segments and channels of the comics market. They still dominate in single-issue sales in comic shops, but both single issues as a format and comic shops as a channel represent a much smaller and shrinking share of the overall market than has been the case in years’ past.

Disney and AT&T are probably not losing too much sleep over this. The worldwide box office of a single, average-grossing superhero blockbuster feature is as large as the entire comics publishing industry, and the profits on mega-hits like Avengers: Endgame or Joker can buy and sell the entire book and periodical market several times over. Genre comic creators will see a bigger paycheck from an unexercised media option than they will from a best-selling comic book, and most artists on popular titles can earn more on commissions and sales of originals than they’ll get in royalties from reprints and trade collections.

Nevertheless, superheroes have been the dominant genre in American comics since the 1960s and are still the first thing a lot of people think of when they think of comics. Now that’s changing, the culmination of a decade-long market trend and a demographic shift in the audience for graphic literature. The change may not be obvious in the media culture for a while, but it’s coming soon to a bookshelf near you.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/robsalkowitz/2019/10/08/surprising-new-data-shows-comic-readers-are-leaving-superheroes-behind/#7438afef4d68
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« Reply #4634 on: October 09, 2019, 09:21:23 pm »
Anine really helped with people finding manga. America is more focused on turning properties into movies or TV shows. The comics are just references at this point.

Mark Miller just writes six issues for a pilot. Lol.
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