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BP710 Story Ideas     Deadlines for selection: November 22, 2017

Death Be Not Proud-The final days of T'Chaka the Black Panther
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Lost in Space-The search for the Vibranium asteroid field
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Doomwar-The Black Payback: T'Challa v Doom as it should've been
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Black on Black violence-The on panel fight between the Black Panther and Black Dwarf
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Where is the Love-The romance of T'Challa and Ororo
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Sweat of the Panther-Steampunk Wakanda
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Beware Of Geek's Reply #4210 on: October 22, 2017, 07:39:29 am
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Battle's Supreme nomination  Reply #4208 on: October 22, 2017, 04:59:32 am
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Kickin' it with Kip Lewis Reply #4238 on: October 25, 2017, 08:21:20 pm
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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - Trailer Tribute Chadwick Boseman " Legend "



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This was well done and literally says it all, without T'Challa there is no Black Panther.






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Re: BP710: THE PROTOCOLS - Are Black Panther and the X-Men Going to War?!?
« Reply #5176 on: December 03, 2021, 09:30:42 pm »
Are Black Panther and the X-Men Going to War for Marvelís Future?
Black Panther #1 teased an upcoming conflict between the Wakandan King and the mutants Ė one that could lead both nations to war for Marvelís future.
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WARNING: The following contains major spoilers for Black Panther #1, available now from Marvel.

Wakanda has historically been the most powerful and advanced country in the Marvel Universe. However, the X-Men's new island nation of Krakoa has given mutantkind an advantage over nations on the world stage, and they seem likely to replace Wakanda in many ways. Both nations have undertaken some major changes recently that could lead them to fight over territories they both claim.

A conflict between these two nations seems more than just a hypothetical at this point, as Marvel just teased a possible disagreement brewing between Black Panther and the X-Men -- one that could potentially drag both of their respective nations into all-out war.



So far, few details about this upcoming fight have been revealed, but it was one of three forthcoming events teased at the end of Black Panther #1 by John Ridley, Juann Cabal, Federico Blee, and VC's Joe Sabino. The teaser shows T'Challa and a woman, who appears to be Omolola, a member of his secret spy network, squaring off against four of the X-Men: Storm, Rogue, Gambit, and Gentle. Storm's hands crackle with lightning, suggesting a threat of violence.

T'Challa and his ex-wife have a complicated relationship. Even though Storm was once Queen of Wakanda, she recently used her knowledge of national security to steal a relic from the Wakandan Royal Family during the X of Swords crossover event. As she was acting on behalf of the mutant nation of Krakoa, this ultimately meant she was not merely committing theft, but overseeing a hostile act against the state of Wakanda. T'Challa caught her in the act, but did not arrest her. He was, however, deeply hurt by this betrayal and made it clear that their countries were no longer allies.

Shortly after this, the mutants colonized Mars, essentially setting themselves up as Earth's representatives in space. This caused a major international backlash from other countries, who perceived this display of power as an act of aggression from Krakoa. However, Wakanda has also made a push into space recently. T'Challa sent a mission into space that led to the foundation of the Intergalactic Wakandan Empire. Clearly, both groups are vying for future control of territories beyond Earth's orbit, using incredible technology to achieve their goals.



All of this seems to lay the groundwork for a conflict between Wakanda and Krakoa, but there is also another layer to consider. T'Challa recently stepped down as head of state, allowing for his country to be ruled by a parliament. If he engages in a fight with Storm and the other X-Men, it need not necessarily cause a political incident, since he is no longer the head of the government. However, the presence of Omolola suggests that the altercation could possibly be due to covert operations he ordered her to carry out against mutants.

Whether the conflict is over colonizing space, past transgressions, interpersonal conflicts, or some other cause is unclear, but such details will no doubt determine whether this is a small skirmish with only a handful of combatants or whole nations will be dragged into it. Whatever the case, a dispute between T'Challa and Storm could very well determine the future trajectory for both of their respective countries.

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Re: BP710: THE PROTOCOLS - Are Black Panther and the X-Men Going to War?!?
« Reply #5177 on: December 04, 2021, 09:04:20 am »
Funny they say that about krakoa yet whenever invasions take place it's Wakanda, who is shown still standing and not on ruins

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Re: BP710: THE PROTOCOLS - Are Black Panther and the X-Men Going to War?!?
« Reply #5178 on: December 04, 2021, 04:20:40 pm »
I have been chronicling these articles prepping us for this inevitable showdown between Wakanda and Krakoa aka the Black Panther vs the X-Men for about a year now, lets see what happens this January in BLACK PANTHER's milestone 200th issue! If Ridley plays T'Challa Priest style and fully actualizes the potential of the Intergalactic Empire of Wakanda then the 616 will never be the same.



This whole Wakanda should be a democracy experiment should fail miserably as they have over ten thousand years of successful governance under a benevolent monarchy.



While T'Challa permits this political folly, it should be noted that he is actively engaged in consolidating his empire. You don't have to make him a villain or antihero, he is beyond those categorizations because now he is simply something more than a king, he is an emperor. Just let him rule.



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Re: BP710: THE PROTOCOLS
« Reply #5179 on: December 12, 2021, 10:19:07 pm »
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Re: BP710: THE PROTOCOLS
« Reply #5180 on: December 12, 2021, 10:19:17 pm »
There can be no...



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« Reply #5181 on: December 13, 2021, 06:26:49 pm »


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Re: BP710: THE PROTOCOLS
« Reply #5182 on: December 13, 2021, 09:30:39 pm »
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This will be a comparison of first issues, their impact and representation of T'Challa the Black Panther, his supporting characters and Wakanda as reintroduced in each subsequent relaunch by Priest, Hudlin, Coates and Ridley.

Future comparisons will include McGregor, Kirby, Maberry and Liss. Black Panther's Avengers are on the table as I compare Hickman and Aaron. Definitely some McDufffie, Narcisse and Redjack. A limited series comparison of Gillis and Aaron might be nice. Maybe a comparison of Kyle Baker, Tochi Onyebuchi, Nnedi Okorafor, Vita Ayala and Roxanne Gaye... maybe.

Lets get started with the big four, Priest, Hudlin, Coates and Ridley.

COVERS

Before the era of sneak peaks and previews the first thing one saw for an upcoming issue was the cover. They were shiny, vibrant, eye catching and distinct from the interior pages and often hinted at things to come. As a child, covers were a very special part of the comic book. I remember cutting out my favorite characters and hanging them up to look at. That's before I became a collector. I still love covers and that is why variants often work for me.



The cover for Priest's debut issue hinted at something different about this Black Panther. First of all he was scaling a wall akin to an all too familiar Queens resident. Next there were the gold attachments, what were they for? Last but certainly not least, we saw this Black Panther had claws, threatening looking claws. Marvel was known in those days for having a banner or little icon of the character in the upper left corner and I have to admit the panther icon didn't hit with me. What did hit hard was the eyes, those soft glowing, menacing otherworldly eyes. Mark Texeira created a beast.

Ranked number 40 with a estimated quantity of 46,988 copies sold .
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Hudlin's depiction was a more back to basics in every detail. It was distinguishing itself from its predecessor straight out the box. His Black Panther was out of the urban environment and placed in the veldt. Back to the original costume no bells or whistles.  Gone were the gold accouterments and vicious claws. No more glowing eyes in their place were the eyes of a man, a very determined man. That is what John Romita Jr delivered. I also think Hudlin had the best font and rendering of the title Black Panther.

Ranked number 27 with a estimated quantity of 50,490 copies sold .
https://icv2.com/articles/comics/view/6620/top-300-comics-actual-february-2005



Coates' cover artist Brian Stelfreeze stylized the Black Panther's countenance. He pulled the ears of the mask back and made the Black Panther look combat ready. The costume also had a necklace. He gave Wakanda a beautiful rendering and its first cover shot of those in this comparison. What was off putting from the start were the burning of the Wakandan flags behind T'Challa, a true harbinger of really bad things to come.

Ranked number 1 with a estimated quantity of 253,259 copies sold.
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Ridley had Alex Ross, who produced a rap around cover inclusive of every major character and event from his predecessor's run. Beautifully rendered this cover speaks of the vast scope of the Black Panther's potential, limited only by the creative elasticity of the writer.

Ranked number 23 estimates of quantities sold were not available.
https://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/49916/top-50-comics-november-2021


While there can be little doubt with regards to scope that Ridley's first issue cover delivers more scale than any of the others, the cover for Priest's first issue delivered the greatest impact potential to me. Hudlin's gets a distance second place due to my thinking at the time that his rendering was going to be a throw back to the McGregor, Kirby eras and undo the work of Priest. Hudlin had the best font for the title Black Panther. Coates comes in last place as I wasn't feeling the ears and the burning flags turned me off. Ridley's comes in third place. He lost second place and potentially first place due to having the Avengers more prominent and on the front cover as opposed to the Wakandan tribes, Hatute Zeraze, Dora Milaje, Midnight Angels and Panther mountain which were relegated to the back cover.


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Exceptional, Brother Ture!

The CJP cover was like a miracle to me, resurrecting this beloved character, unexpectedly after being more or less dormant, certainly bereft of any limelight. His run brought me back into comics.

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Priest is definitely first, I would say then Hudlin with a close third from Ridley. Only because he has TOO much on there especially a certain weather getting more prominence on the cover than she deserves.

Coates is dead last with a special note of if he came correct, didn't have the flags burning as well as all the nonsense that came with his era, I would say that the cover rivals Priests. 

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Brother Ture? You've done it again. Your posts are always so full of unique perspective and depth. Keep them coming! And thank you very much!

Thank you Brother Supreme and you are most welcome. As always I appreciate and look forward to your insight and commentary. I intend to follow through with how over the years the Black Panther's relaunches impacted my interpretation of T'Challa and his nation of Wakanda. As a BP fanfic writer you are keenly aware of the fodder these stories offer. Speaking of such, I will read your new work over the weekend.
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Exceptional, Brother Ture!

The CJP cover was like a miracle to me, resurrecting this beloved character, unexpectedly after being more or less dormant, certainly bereft of any limelight. His run brought me back into comics.

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Much appreciation Brother Kimoyo. Very well said and quoted for truth. Priest was that oasis after a long drought. I remember seeing a poster of the cover at my LCS and was like wow, he back and in a big way. That cover also made on to a tshirt of which I bought two. While one is very worn I still get compliments when I wear it... especially a couple of years ago. I hope you will continue to enjoy my musings on the first issues of the Black Panther.
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