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BP710 Story Ideas     Deadlines for selection: November 22, 2017

Death Be Not Proud-The final days of T'Chaka the Black Panther
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Lost in Space-The search for the Vibranium asteroid field
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Doomwar-The Black Payback: T'Challa v Doom as it should've been
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Black on Black violence-The on panel fight between the Black Panther and Black Dwarf
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Where is the Love-The romance of T'Challa and Ororo
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Sweat of the Panther-Steampunk Wakanda
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Beware Of Geek's Reply #4210 on: October 22, 2017, 07:39:29 am
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Battle's Supreme nomination  Reply #4208 on: October 22, 2017, 04:59:32 am
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Kickin' it with Kip Lewis Reply #4238 on: October 25, 2017, 08:21:20 pm
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« Reply #4725 on: February 02, 2020, 03:29:37 pm »
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« Reply #4726 on: February 03, 2020, 10:46:42 pm »
Exactly, the passion isn't there, hell the interest in T'Challa abd his world isn't there. That's why he keeps pulled Storm and Eden in, two X-Men characters, that's why in the early stages stages od the story, the crystal was supposedly the key for the maroons to receive their memories back was, again, a x men related items. The dude just had the main villain in the latest issue give all this praise to storm.

I mean, that's the type of talk the main villain says about the title Character, and his Supporting cast. But instead we see it's given to out of franchise characters, both of which are from X-Men.

You know who has passion? Geoffrey Thorne aka redjack. He wants to write a bp comic, he likes the character, he wants to elevate the character, and he has proven all this via Avengers Black Panthers quest.  He has the passion, and after Cooglers slam dunk with MCU BP? This old trope that befalls black characters is no longer tolerated, especially given what can be if the person at the helm has the passion.




When I write about passion, I'm writing about the entire comicbook industry not one person.

Your type of thinking goes back to what I wrote earlier and this is my last post on this matter; I have nothing more to write regarding this 'issue' because I'm convinced. 

No matter how much disdain or vitriol or dislike is posted about Mr. Coates or his accomplishments,  absolutely no one who was ever assigned to 'Black Panther' would ever get in front of the Nation at Capitol Hill, Washington D.C., testify about our plight in support of Representative Sheila Jackson-Lee of Texas' proposed bill, HR 40, the commission to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African-Americans.    Not one. 

We now know who is about the business and who is not.  Mr. Coates is alright with me.

Right now, as I type this there is a dangerous, repugnant agent for Russia,  a criminal if you will,  inside the Executive Mansion at Washington, D.C. pretending to be an American president who has double crossed the entire Nation and our allies ON TRIAL.

Y'know what that means?  There is an unruly tenant in the process of being evicted from the Executive Mansion and he doesn't want to leave.  The People have spoken; look at the approval numbers; there must be witnesses.

…and check this sh!t out: he has rigged the trial so that no witnesses who caught the stupid M/Fer in the act of the crime to not testify against him. There are more people in prison than in the state of Arizona; every single one of them locked up just on WITNESS testimony alone. Never mind evidence that is also required in court proceedings.  The most racist individual people of color have ever seen in generations and he's gloating about the sh!t and he has intimated that he'll betray us again.  We're still in the 1st month of the fiscal year, in a Brand Nubian decade and the 2020 election in November is a loo-o-ng way from today.    We have reached that 'limit break' in this final fantasy.



As I've written before, comicbooks today ain't that _____ ing serious. 

You are of course, entitled to hold whatever opinion you wish as regards Coates importance in relation to social issues impacting upon African-American interests.

This however, has ZERO relevance as to how Coates atrocious work on the Black Panthet solo book as well as the mythos in its entirety,  is perceived and rejected by actual BP Mythos enthusiasts who pay good money to read stories about a character they appreciate.

Coates maybe alright in your eyes just based on his stance in the reparations issue but as far as his work on the BP book is concerned, Coates is a PoS especially as his work on the Captain America solo book, proves that he's more than capable of writing a titular character properly.

Ta Nehisi Coates is most definitely a steaming PoS.


It truly is like the X-Office sent a sleeper agent out into another office to piss all over BP since he’s the only touchable one fans outside of the mutants that’s a poc that people care about, if they tried this with Miles the Spider Office would jump in real quick


But can’t admit the big shot black writer was a bust so to save face just let the trash pile up
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« Reply #4727 on: February 11, 2020, 08:26:14 pm »
And people wonder why Cooglers BP resonates so well.
It moves away fro. The tropes, speaks of respect, unity and black love. 


I don't completely agree. Though there was much to admire in the Black Panther film I also felt it threw shade on Black Americans, so much for unity.

How? The the only Black Americans from a story standpoint were the kids at the beginning and end. And maybe Killmongers girlfriend, but they never say where she is from.

Killmonger being a rage-filled monster, almost like a black brute from old. Whatever points he made were vastly outweighed by his rage, his cold murder of his girlfriend and his abuse of the Wakandan female elder could be something that came right out of an Oprah movie. Killmonger's disrespect for Wakanda and its customs, and it was like he was a wild 'akata' that needed to be civilized. I'm not going to say he was a black brute stereotype, but there were aspects there. A lesser actor than Michael B. Jordan might have took him over into that territory. Jordan, Coogler, and the script writer also imbued him with a sense of humanity and a reason for his rage which also kept him from being a black brute, and added complexity by making him super smart, dedicated, and cultured, and giving some legitimacy to his grievance at being left behind by the Wakandan side of his family. Curiously, the American side was never talked about.

The glimpses we got of Black America were all in the hood and I felt that Okoye's disdain for the wig she had to wear was also a jab at black women (perhaps not just American to be fair) who wear them or weaves. Further, the young kids were ignorant, not offensively so, but more along the line of a typical Hollywood idea/depiction of what black kids from the hood would act like. Thankfully they didn't try to rob T'Challa and Shuri.

So, when it came to Black America we got poverty, urban blight, and callous, self-destructive rage.

Interesting conundrum Emperorjones. Killmonger was every bit the villain and some of his anger and actions paralleled another MCU villain... Aldrich Killian. He too was passionately enraged; choked a woman, Pepper Potts; and even shot to death another woman,  Maya Hansen. For some reasons acts committed by Afrakans are programmed to be seen as more heinous. The distinction between the two is akin to Snoop's argument.

A saving grace for Killmonger's anger was that it was justified. This brings another part of the aforementioned conundrum to the forefront. The narrative that Afrakans on the continent did nothing or worse helped to enslave Afrakans that wound up in what would become the USA. There is hardly a whisper of Afrakans raiding the slave ports and freeing other Afrakans; destroying or taking over slave ships; forming self liberating communities throughout north and south America.

It is sad to think that the low self esteem and lack of appreciation for their own aesthetic has lead some Afrakan women (lest not forget the Afrakan men who reinforce such) to such extremes as straight hair weaves, perms and wigs. As such it makes perfect sense that an Afrakan woman not suffering from such would have disdain for having to wear that kind of wig. To me Okoye's statement was as much declarative as it was derogatory. As for the children were they not portrayed as those in the world outside your window?

This is the over arching thematic challenges in going forward in both comics and especially in film with the Black Panther. How to portray a never conquered, culturally autonomous, futuristic Afrakan centered super hero and his society? The difficulty in the ask is, who at Marvel is willing to accept the responsibility to course correct.
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« Reply #4728 on: February 12, 2020, 06:52:06 pm »
Black Panther is Facing An Invasion in Marvel's EMPYRE
T'Challa and the Agents Of Wakanda must fight a Kree-Skrull alliance as part of Marvel Comics' "Empyre" crossover event.

BY DOM MAH



This May, Black Panther and the mighty nation of Wakanda face an alien invasion in Marvel Comics' Empyre event. Empyre: The Invasion Of Wakanda #1 kicks off a limited series focusing on the Wakandan response to a global threat. Marvel has offered teasers on the enormity of the Empyre maxi-storyline for months now, and fans are bracing for an attack by two of the universe's most powerful alien races. Black Panther, caught between his Avengers duties, his responsibilities to Wakanda, and his adventures in interstellar diplomacy, is a busy, busy man.

T'Challa (the canonical reigning Black Panther) must aid the Avengers and the Fantastic Four in the main Empyre series, so his attention will be divided. Fortunately, Wakanda has its share of superpowered defenders, which will have to contend with a new alliance formed by Marvel's legacy alien antagonists, the Kree and Skrull empires. Their ultimate plan remains mysterious, but whenever extraterrestrials have cause to conquer our charming blue planet, the super metal Vibranium is always near the top of their list.

Vibranium is an energy-manipulating element used to create everything necessary in the world of superheroes: indestructible shields, absorbent battlesuits, fantastic weapons, and gadgets. In the comics and in the cinematic universe, the wealth of Earth's Vibranium resources are located in Wakanda, the fictional African nation that is home to Black Panther and some of Earth's most advanced technology.

Empyre: The Invasion Of Wakanda #1 (of a 3-issue mini-series) comes from a creative team known for work on the Black Panther: Agents of Wakanda ongoing series, including writer Jim Zub and artist Lan Medina, with a cover by Dustin Weaver. From Marvel's official May 2020 previews:




The heart of Wakanda — its mighty store of Vibranium — comes under threat as the villains of EMPYRE launch their invasion of Earth! Black Panther’s Agents of Wakanda form the front line against the alien invasion, but the enemy’s powers are vast and unknown. With T’Challa off fighting alongside the Avengers, General Okoye is in charge — and even with the superhumans are her disposal, she may find herself outmatched.

Empyre: The Invasion Of Wakanda #1 arrives in May 2020
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« Reply #4729 on: February 12, 2020, 07:04:52 pm »
Marvel HQ to Showcase Fan-Favorite Content on YouTube for Black History Month



Marvel fans can tune in for exciting content celebrating Black History Month on Marvel HQ YouTube as well as a special Marvel HQ YouTube takeover: “Best of Avengers.” The Black History Month content includes Black Panther and Shuri in the two-time NAACP Image Award-nominated season of Marvel’s Avengers: Black Panther’s Quest, Miles Morales in the hugely popular Marvel Super Hero Adventures shorts, and Patriot and Ironheart in Marvel Rising.

This thrilling collection of animated videos highlights heroes of African descent that have long been an integral part of the Marvel universe.

Highlights from this collection include:

“The Panther and the Wolf” – Black Panther has just pinned down his fugitive adoptive brother, White Wolf, when he discovers that Shadow Council member M’Baku and his gang are hunting his brother too, leading to an epic battle between the King of Wakanda and the henchmen.

“The Zemo Sanction” – Black Panther and Baron Zemo form a reluctant alliance when vicious Tiger Shark bursts onto the scene, determined to steal valuable intel for the Shadow Council. Meanwhile, Shuri takes down an enemy airship… with some unintended consequences.

“Mists of Attilan” – In the Inhuman city of Attilan, Black Panther and Ms. Marvel fight a shape-shifting Shadow Council spy named Princess Zanda and stop her from stealing the key to a powerful, ancient weapon.

“T’Challa Royale” – At a lab in an active volcano, Black Panther finally faces the Wakandan traitor, Killmonger, who is determined to take the throne from T’Challa. The ruthless Killmonger is prepared to destroy anyone in order to claim the crown.


You can see all of the Black History Month content here.
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« Reply #4730 on: February 14, 2020, 02:55:45 pm »
Black Panther is Facing An Invasion in Marvel's EMPYRE
T'Challa and the Agents Of Wakanda must fight a Kree-Skrull alliance as part of Marvel Comics' "Empyre" crossover event.

BY DOM MAH



This May, Black Panther and the mighty nation of Wakanda face an alien invasion in Marvel Comics' Empyre event. Empyre: The Invasion Of Wakanda #1 kicks off a limited series focusing on the Wakandan response to a global threat. Marvel has offered teasers on the enormity of the Empyre maxi-storyline for months now, and fans are bracing for an attack by two of the universe's most powerful alien races. Black Panther, caught between his Avengers duties, his responsibilities to Wakanda, and his adventures in interstellar diplomacy, is a busy, busy man.

T'Challa (the canonical reigning Black Panther) must aid the Avengers and the Fantastic Four in the main Empyre series, so his attention will be divided. Fortunately, Wakanda has its share of superpowered defenders, which will have to contend with a new alliance formed by Marvel's legacy alien antagonists, the Kree and Skrull empires. Their ultimate plan remains mysterious, but whenever extraterrestrials have cause to conquer our charming blue planet, the super metal Vibranium is always near the top of their list.

Vibranium is an energy-manipulating element used to create everything necessary in the world of superheroes: indestructible shields, absorbent battlesuits, fantastic weapons, and gadgets. In the comics and in the cinematic universe, the wealth of Earth's Vibranium resources are located in Wakanda, the fictional African nation that is home to Black Panther and some of Earth's most advanced technology.

Empyre: The Invasion Of Wakanda #1 (of a 3-issue mini-series) comes from a creative team known for work on the Black Panther: Agents of Wakanda ongoing series, including writer Jim Zub and artist Lan Medina, with a cover by Dustin Weaver. From Marvel's official May 2020 previews:




The heart of Wakanda — its mighty store of Vibranium — comes under threat as the villains of EMPYRE launch their invasion of Earth! Black Panther’s Agents of Wakanda form the front line against the alien invasion, but the enemy’s powers are vast and unknown. With T’Challa off fighting alongside the Avengers, General Okoye is in charge — and even with the superhumans are her disposal, she may find herself outmatched.

Empyre: The Invasion Of Wakanda #1 arrives in May 2020

Here's to hoping that Wakanda doesn't get jobbed. Again.
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« Reply #4731 on: February 14, 2020, 05:31:06 pm »
They can't lose to super skrulls, they gotta send a hard message again. See. Wakanda. And. Die

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« Reply #4732 on: February 14, 2020, 06:00:35 pm »
Remember the isht they pulled with Faustus and HydraCap against Wakanda in Secret Empire. Until I see it with my own eyes, I don't trust current Marvel writers not to job Wakanda.

They don't have any respect for Wakanda or her abilities. It's just another country they can frak with.
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« Reply #4733 on: February 14, 2020, 11:46:55 pm »
Empyre is already starting off on the wrong foot. Stressing the so called Agents of Wakanda; T'Challa too busy with Avenger's business to defend his nation, come on. It all in the wording and marketing as to how this cross over event sees the Black Panther as just an adjunct character with an expendable nation full of redshirts. This is why I was ofttimes unenthusiastic of the Black Panther's inclusion of late in these mega cross over events.

It almost as if they are setting up this new Skrull/Kree alliance for victory not to mention ignoring current events in BP's solo. The Galactic Empire of Wakanda spans five galaxies all of which they gained through conquest and this doesn't even get mentioned in the promo. I guess Storm and her fellow guest stars will wind up crushing the empire and freeing the slaves thus bringing order to the galaxies. Prove me wrong Empyre.
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« Reply #4734 on: February 15, 2020, 12:02:51 am »


Speaking of crossovers... T'challa better not have any trouble handling Conan!
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« Reply #4735 on: February 15, 2020, 12:39:03 am »
All the Stars are Closer... Empyre, We was Built for this!


























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« Reply #4736 on: February 15, 2020, 01:02:05 am »
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« Reply #4737 on: February 15, 2020, 05:51:11 am »
Remember the isht they pulled with Faustus and HydraCap against Wakanda in Secret Empire. Until I see it with my own eyes, I don't trust current Marvel writers not to job Wakanda.

They don't have any respect for Wakanda or her abilities. It's just another country they can frak with.


I also found that to be a problem with both Spencer and Coates. It should of been addressed in the solo, and in the event, Wakanda should of been leading the rest of the world powers who were resisting and lead a big battle with the heroes facing evil Cap.  Because the whole deal with Faustus was clearly a poorly thought out, poorly explained power boost that was a literal one and done because Spencer couldn't figure out how, or didn't bother to figure out how to get the shard from Wakanda in a cohesive manner

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« Reply #4738 on: February 15, 2020, 07:59:43 am »
Empyre is already starting off on the wrong foot. Stressing the so called Agents of Wakanda; T'Challa too busy with Avenger's business to defend his nation, come on. It all in the wording and marketing as to how this cross over event sees the Black Panther as just an adjunct character with an expendable nation full of redshirts. This is why I was ofttimes unenthusiastic of the Black Panther's inclusion of late in these mega cross over events.

It almost as if they are setting up this new Skrull/Kree alliance for victory not to mention ignoring current events in BP's solo. The Galactic Empire of Wakanda spans five galaxies all of which they gained through conquest and this doesn't even get mentioned in the promo. I guess Storm and her fellow guest stars will wind up crushing the empire and freeing the slaves thus bringing order to the galaxies. Prove me wrong Empyre.


I think he's is Wakanda, but he's in the Empyre main book. Written by Al Ewing and Dan Slott.
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« Reply #4739 on: February 15, 2020, 11:07:09 am »
Remember the isht they pulled with Faustus and HydraCap against Wakanda in Secret Empire. Until I see it with my own eyes, I don't trust current Marvel writers not to job Wakanda.

They don't have any respect for Wakanda or her abilities. It's just another country they can frak with.


I also found that to be a problem with both Spencer and Coates. It should of been addressed in the solo, and in the event, Wakanda should of been leading the rest of the world powers who were resisting and lead a big battle with the heroes facing evil Cap.  Because the whole deal with Faustus was clearly a poorly thought out, poorly explained power boost that was a literal one and done because Spencer couldn't figure out how, or didn't bother to figure out how to get the shard from Wakanda in a cohesive manner

Spencer, like most, doesn't know what to do with Wakanda so its best just to leave well enough alone. More times than not these so called world threats should be beneath Wakanda's need to respond. You're right marvell2100 not to trust anything going forward with Wakanda especially following the weak portrayal Coates has presented. BP and Wakanda need a new visionary writer whom will write both to their potential and scale.

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