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Offline Curtis Metcalf

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Re: Black Panther vs Apollo Creed
« Reply #90 on: January 19, 2007, 06:47:20 am »
But I'm still thinking that they should have made him a real black guy/alien. Superman is white as most of the Kriptonians we've seen then why can Icon be a black alien from a mostly black planet? I guess that if I was a comic writer and would have made Icon that way.
You know, I always thought that the notion of a planet full of alien white people was ridiculous.  The solution McDuffie and crew came up with seems really smart to me.
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Re: Black Panther vs Apollo Creed
« Reply #91 on: January 19, 2007, 06:53:58 am »
But I'm still thinking that they should have made him a real black guy/alien. Superman is white as most of the Kriptonians we've seen then why can Icon be a black alien from a mostly black planet? I guess that if I was a comic writer and would have made Icon that way.
To paraphrase Icon, he's been a black man for longer than anyone else on the planet. ;)

I get what your saying, but the book works because Icon represents the history of African Americans, from slavery to the Harlem Renaissance to standing at MLK's side and on, while Rocket represents the reality of inner-city African-Americans in modern times.

Heh, Icon's real name was Arnus, and he looked like 'Kermit the frog with a better profile'.

The point to the character was that he had experienced slavery, Jim Crow and the Harlem Renaissance FIRSTHAND. Moreover, by the time Icon finally got back to his home planet a century later, his people has effectively cloned a replacement of him, rendering his return moot. During the time he was off-planet with Rocket he was replaced by Buck Wilde, Mercenary Man (Perhaps the funniest Luke Cage parody ever).

In retrospect, Icon was probably on of the better books published by Milestone. Milestone main failing (thru no fault of its own) was that it came out during the same time Image and Valiant did.

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Re: Black Panther vs Apollo Creed
« Reply #92 on: January 21, 2007, 07:08:13 am »
Yeah, leave Rocky alone, he's the greatest sports hero in Philadelphia history, at least give them that.

Oh really? Well, where does that leave their REAL heavyweight boxing champion, "Smokin'" Joe Frazier? And what about Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker?

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I dunno where it leaves them, maybe I'll have an idea when they raise their statues, lol.
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« Reply #93 on: January 21, 2007, 07:22:56 am »
Yeah, leave Rocky alone, he's the greatest sports hero in Philadelphia history, at least give them that.


Oh really? Well, where does that leave their REAL heavyweight boxing champion, "Smokin'" Joe Frazier? And what about Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker?

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I dunno where it leaves them, maybe I'll have an idea when they raise their statues, lol.


I hope that when they do raise a statue to "Smokin'" Joe Frazier, it will be a statue worthy of a Champion and not like that thing of Rocky Balboa some in Philadelphia call a statue. A member of Philadelphia's Art Commission didn't want that hunk of misshappen bronze anywhere near the art museum. He said, that's not a statue, "it's a prop". Which is exactly what it is  ;)

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2006/09/06/rocky-statue.html
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Re: Black Panther vs Apollo Creed
« Reply #94 on: January 21, 2007, 07:52:09 am »
Yeah, leave Rocky alone, he's the greatest sports hero in Philadelphia history, at least give them that.


Oh really? Well, where does that leave their REAL heavyweight boxing champion, "Smokin'" Joe Frazier? And what about Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker?

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I dunno where it leaves them, maybe I'll have an idea when they raise their statues, lol.


I hope that when they do raise a statue to "Smokin'" Joe Frazier, it will be a statue worthy of a Champion and not like that thing of Rocky Balboa some in Philadelphia call a statue. A member of Philadelphia's Art Commission didn't want that hunk of misshappen bronze anywhere near the art museum. He said, that's not a statue, "it's a prop". Which is exactly what it is  ;)

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2006/09/06/rocky-statue.html


Yep, I agree with you totally, but as a Cowboy fan, the way Philadelphia has taken to that movie has been a cornerstone of my scorn for a long time.  It's all good though, great series of movie.
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Re: Black Panther vs Apollo Creed
« Reply #95 on: January 22, 2007, 02:15:08 pm »
yea,good movies  ;D

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Re: Black Panther vs Apollo Creed
« Reply #96 on: January 22, 2007, 02:39:51 pm »
yea,good movies  ;D

Either sarcasm, or did we just agree on something?
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