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Re: Black Panther's Agents of Wakanda
« Reply #765 on: August 22, 2019, 09:19:20 pm »
Killmonger, WoW#6, Sound and Fury, the Annual, BP vs BD, Ghost Panther, Rise, and Avenger(for BP)were all hot for me.

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problem with the spin offs is that the initial ones sucked, too influenced by what Coates was doing, and trying to make the MA a thing.

If the spin offs started with Rise, BP vs DP, Avengers, Agents of Wakanda (tbd)  instead of WoW, Crew, and Ultimates (good idea, meh execution here, team was too niche)...... momentum would have carried longer.

Coates pessimism murdered the takeover before it started

I liked The Ultimates more than you did...probably a lot more...but I pretty much agree across the board with you, MoS.
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Re: Black Panther's Agents of Wakanda
« Reply #766 on: August 24, 2019, 11:07:54 am »






The Black Panther looking good in the pages of Avengers #23 out Wednesday, August 28.
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Re: Black Panther's Agents of Wakanda
« Reply #767 on: August 24, 2019, 11:21:45 am »
Here's a sneak peek of Black Panther and the Agents of Wakanda







Black Panther assembles his team of elite heroes in this preview of September 18's Black Panther and the Agents of Wakanda #1 (via Marvel.com).

BLACK PANTHER AND THE AGENTS OF WAKANDA #1
Jim Zub (W) • LAN MEDINA (A)
Cover by JORGE MOLINA
Variant cover by LEINIL FRANCIS YU
GAME VARIANT COVER BY YOON LEE
Hidden Gem variant cover by TBA
VARIANT COVER by TBA
WAKANDA WORLDWIDE!
ALL-NEW ONGOING SERIES!
From the pages of Jason Aaron’s AVENGERS! Vampires. Aliens. Angry fish kings. Black Panther’s hand-picked Agents of Wakanda can handle it all. And who better to lead them than the king of the world’s most technologically evolved country? Wakanda is making waves on the world’s map – and not everyone’s a fan. With General Okoye’s help, T’Challa will take Gorilla-Man, Ka-Zar and Wasp on a global fight for survival – to handle threats S.H.I.E.L.D. could only dream of!
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Re: Black Panther's Agents of Wakanda
« Reply #768 on: August 29, 2019, 05:36:28 pm »
Killmonger, WoW#6, Sound and Fury, the Annual, BP vs BD, Ghost Panther, Rise, and Avenger(for BP)were all hot for me.

I been eating good. Lol.

problem with the spin offs is that the initial ones sucked, too influenced by what Coates was doing, and trying to make the MA a thing.

If the spin offs started with Rise, BP vs DP, Avengers, Agents of Wakanda (tbd)  instead of WoW, Crew, and Ultimates (good idea, meh execution here, team was too niche)...... momentum would have carried longer.

Coates pessimism murdered the takeover before it started

I agree with all this as well. Ultimates started out Goodwin the first two issues (ultimates 1 I should clarify) but Ewing never let any of them cut loose.. at all. Despite that being a thing he talked about in interviews. Basically how the interviews went he painted a much different picture of what to expect, and unfortunately, he didn't deliver

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Re: Black Panther's Agents of Wakanda
« Reply #769 on: September 05, 2019, 03:51:17 pm »
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Frankly, I've become disenchanted with superhero comics in general, because so very few of them are aspirational in any way. It feels like since roughly 2004, the great majority of Big Two comics have focused on how "unrealistic", broken, or downright delusional heroes are. Idealism has given way to cynicism and navel-gazing.

The MCU is a notable exception, but we are already seeing a backlash against their style of escapism, with films like Brightburn and the upcoming Joker film. And even in this very thread, we have people who think the best thing they can do in the next film is to flood Wakanda, because trashing a borderline utopia is somehow good storytelling.

(In all fairness, if you look at the 616 universe, destroying exotic cultures has become something of a cliche. Attilan, Atlantis, Wakanda, Olympia, etc...)

It's a far cry from how superhero comics used to be. I always recall the words of the late Harlan Ellison, speaking about a certain Big Blue Boy Scout from the Distinguished Competition:

"He is more than the fanciful daydream of two Cleveland schoolboys. He is the 20th-century archetype of mankind at its finest. He is courage and humanity, steadfastness and decency, responsibility and ethic. He is our universal longing for perfection, for wisdom and power used in the service of the human race.

Of all the literary creations of American fiction, Superman, after all these years, born of a 'dispensable, disreputable' genre, is the only one that seems certain to get Posterity's nod. And that is because, simply put, he is our highest aspirations in human form."

There's one bit I'd like to highlight:

"…wisdom and power used in the service of the human race."

That's Black Panther, too.

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My first comic was purchased in 1975. For me, the "golden age" of comics was probably around 1985, when you had some of the greatest runs ever at Marvel & DC. Frankly, I'm too old-school for the modern "deconstructive" era.

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My theory is more that there's a crop of new writers who believe that comics must be more "literary", which usually translates to character-driven stories with a lot of "ordinary" plots and introspection. It's all about "trying to understand what makes someone act like a superhero (or king, in the case of BP)" without actually having the characters ACT like heroes (or kings).

Look at the Nolan Bat-films, or the Craig Bonds. 2 or 3 movies showing how the main characters "become" their roles, and in the next film, they are already washed up.

M. Coates is clearly an example of this, as his entire run seems devoted to showing T'Challa in situations (the MA revolt, the Adversary/Orisha thing, the space arc) where he is out of his element and being manipulated by events, not actually driving the plot in any real fashion. T'Challa has had almost NO agency.

because it needed to be read over here as well.
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Re: Black Panther's Agents of Wakanda
« Reply #770 on: September 05, 2019, 03:54:06 pm »
In addition to Agents of Wakanda, The Black Panther is also involved in this...

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Re: Black Panther's Agents of Wakanda
« Reply #771 on: September 14, 2019, 08:02:33 am »
BLACK PANTHER AND THE AGENTS OF WAKANDA #1 Preview
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In BLACK PANTHER AND THE AGENTS OF WAKANDA #1 Preview, WAKANDA IS WORLDWIDE! From the pages of Jason Aaron’s AVENGERS! Vampires. Aliens. Angry fish kings. Black Panther’s hand-picked Agents of Wakanda can handle it all. And who better to lead them than the king of the world’s most technologically evolved country? Wakanda is making waves on the world’s map – and not everyone’s a fan. With General Okoye’s help, T’Challa will take Gorilla-Man, Ka-Zar, and Wasp on a global fight for survival – to handle threats S.H.I.E.L.D. could only dream of!













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Re: Black Panther's Agents of Wakanda
« Reply #772 on: September 18, 2019, 08:15:01 am »
First issue was a good read. Well placed with good action and dialogue.
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Re: Black Panther's Agents of Wakanda
« Reply #773 on: September 20, 2019, 09:41:30 am »
Black Panther and the Agents of Wakanda, like too many Black Panther titles of late focuses more on supporting characters than T'Challa. What's worse is these characters are often below or off radar. Ideally, I would prefer a Wakandan centered team of agents thus allowing the creation of new Wakandan characters; the reintroducing of established Wakandan characters; and the updating of long forgotten characters in the BP mythos. This would go a long way in the world building that is needed to expand the Black Panther.

With that being said the book read well and was paced appropriately. Characters had their correct voices. This title gave me that Ultimates feel and I'm hoping we get some significant feats from the Black Panther in the issues to come. Hint, hint...


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Re: Black Panther's Agents of Wakanda
« Reply #774 on: September 20, 2019, 10:19:45 am »

Think T'Challa willget some one on one time?
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Re: Black Panther's Agents of Wakanda
« Reply #775 on: September 20, 2019, 11:12:15 am »


JIM ZUB (W) • LAN MEDINA (A) • Cover by JORGE MOLINA
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T’Challa and Okoye have assembled an eclectic team of spies, mercenaries, and super heroes who specialize in espionage, black-ops, and defense. These Agents of Wakanda must be ready for any threat to our planet…even if that threat is the Moon itself!
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