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« Reply #3075 on: July 13, 2019, 08:54:47 pm »
THE BUSINESS
Reginald Hudlin on writing ‘Black Panther’ comics and running BET...at the same time
Hosted by Kim Masters Jul. 12, 2019


Reginald Hudlin at KCRW.
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Director Reginald Hudlin’s most recent project is the Netflix documentary ‘The Black Godfather,’ which tells the story of Clarence Avant--a behind-the-scenes force in music, movies and politics for more than 50 years.

Hudlin burst on the industry scene with the 1990 Sundance hit ‘House Party,’ which he wrote and directed. Since then he’s stayed busy writing and directing movies and TV--he was a producer on ‘Django Unchained,’ which earned him an Oscar nomination for Best Picture in 2012.

Hudlin’s had his share of other jobs too--sometimes concurrently!--as was the case when he found himself writing ‘Black Panther’ comics and running BET.

He tells us about those hectic years, and explains why he thinks the movie ‘Blade’ is pivotal to the success of Marvel movies.


Listen to interview here.
https://www.kcrw.com/culture/shows/the-business/career-memories-from-reginald-hudlin-caleb-deschanel-on-shooting-lion-king/reginald-hudlin-on-writing-black-panther-comics-and-running-bet-at-the-same-time
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« Reply #3076 on: July 21, 2019, 07:31:01 am »


Marvel Studios went wild and revealed its Phase 4 movie lineup at San Diego Comic-Con 2019 this Saturday, but still managed to come up with one big surprise: a new version of Blade, starring Mahershala Ali, is also on the way.

At this point we have little info other that Ali's casting. Most likely Blade will be a cinematic release but it is possible it may appear on Disney Plus.

It's been a while since Blade has had any screentime. The last time we saw him he was being played by Wesley Snipes. Blade's return is a timely one.


https://www.cnet.com/news/marvel-announces-blade-starring-mahershala-ali-at-comic-con-2019/
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« Reply #3077 on: July 21, 2019, 08:12:00 am »
NO BLACK PANTHER 2 NEWS... YET

SDCC 2019: All of the Marvel Studios News Coming Out of Hall H at San Diego Comic-Con
The next movies revealed, plus more of what's to come on Disney+ and surprises!

BY MARVEL

Today at San Diego Comic-Con 2019, Marvel Studios took to the stage in Hall H to reveal the upcoming movies and TV shows from the studio – including the next chapter of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and what’s planned for Disney+. Here is all the news that came out of Hall H in one place!

Fans can look forward to these titles over the next two years:

To kick things off, Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige announced Marvel Studios' The Eternals!

Marvel Studios’ The Eternals starring Richard Madden as Ikaris, Kumail Nanjiani as Kingo, Lauren Ridloff as Makkari, Brian Tyree Henry as Phastos, Salma Hayek as Ajak, Lia McHugh as Sprite, Don Lee as Gilgamesh, and Angelina Jolie as Thena. The Eternals, which will be directed by Chloé Zhao, will come to theaters November 6, 2020.




Next up was the first show coming exclusively to Disney+, Marvel Studios’ The Falcon and The Winter Soldier! Anthony Mackie (The Falcon) and Sebastian Stan (The Winter Soldier) came on stage to greet the fans, and it was revealed that Daniel Brühl will return as the villain, Baron Zemo. Marvel Studios’ The Falcon and The Winter Soldier will come to Disney+ in the fall of 2020.



Next up is a classic Marvel Comics character making his movie debut -- Marvel Studios’ Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings starring Simu Liu in the title role. Appearing alongside Liu will be Awkwafina in an undisclosed role and Tony Leung as the (real) Mandarin. Marvel Studios’ Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings will be directed by Destin Daniel Cretton. In theaters February 12, 2021.



Marvel Studio’s WandaVision, an original series starring Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany, reprising their MCU roles as Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch and Vision. Costarring with them is Teyonah Parris, whom Feige revealed would be playing the adult Monica Rambeau, who was introduced as a child in Marvel Studios' Captain Marvel. Marvel Studios’ WandaVision will arrive on Disney+ in the spring of 2021.



The MCU's favorite trickster Loki will also make his way to Disney+! Marvel Studios’ Loki, an original series starring Tom Hiddleston, will see the god of mischief causing even more trouble starting in the spring of 2021.



Marvel Studios’ Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness starring Benedict Cumberbatch as Stephen Strange with Scott Derrickson returning as director. But joining Doctor Strange this time around will be the Scarlet Witch, played by Elizabeth Olsen. In another twist, the events of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness will connect with the Disney+ series Marvel Studios' WandaVision. Marvel Studios’ Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness will cast its spell in theaters May 7, 2021.



The legacy of the WHAT IF...? comics will be adapted for the screen! Marvel Studios’ What If…?, the first animated series in the MCU, will star Jeffrey Wright as the voice of The Watcher -- many actors from across the MCU will reprise their roles as voice talent. What If…? will present alternate realities in the Marvel Universe that are set to warp your world in the summer of 2021, exclusively on Disney+.



Another character from the MCU will appear on the small screen: Marvel Studios’ Hawkeye starring Jeremy Renner, who joined Kevin Feige onstage share more details about the show, which will introduce Kate Bishop, who has been hitting her mark in Marvel Comics. Marvel Studios’ Hawkeye will come to Disney+ in the fall of 2021.



It was also revealed that someone from Thor's story will return to the MCU -- Natalie Portman will return for Marvel Studios’ Thor: Love and Thunder, joining stars Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson. Taika Waititi returns as director, and he confirmed that Jane Foster will become the Mighty Thor, goddess of Thunder. Marvel Studios’ Thor: Love and Thunder will arrive in theaters November 5, 2021.



It looks like we're going to find out a lot more about Natasha Romanoff! Marvel Studios’ Black Widow starring Scarlett Johansson reprising her MCU role. She will be joined by David Harbour as Alexei AKA The Red Guardian, Florence Pugh as Yelena, O-T Fagbenle as Mason, and Rachel Weisz as Melina. Cate Shortland is directing. Marvel Studios’ Black Widow will come to theaters May 1, 2020.



And if all this massive Marvel Studios news wasn't enough... Kevin Feige introduced Mahershala Ali as Blade! Not only that -- Marvel Studios' Blade will also slash its way into theaters!



This is just the beginning! Stay tuned to Marvel.com for more details!


https://www.marvel.com/articles/movies/sdcc-2019-all-of-the-marvel-studios-news-coming-out-of-hall-h-at-san-diego-comic-con
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Re: BLACK PANTHER CINEMA
« Reply #3078 on: July 21, 2019, 12:14:02 pm »
NO BLACK PANTHER 2 NEWS... YET

SDCC 2019: All of the Marvel Studios News Coming Out of Hall H at San Diego Comic-Con
The next movies revealed, plus more of what's to come on Disney+ and surprises!

BY MARVEL

Today at San Diego Comic-Con 2019, Marvel Studios took to the stage in Hall H to reveal the upcoming movies and TV shows from the studio – including the next chapter of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and what’s planned for Disney+. Here is all the news that came out of Hall H in one place!

Fans can look forward to these titles over the next two years:

To kick things off, Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige announced Marvel Studios' The Eternals!

Marvel Studios’ The Eternals starring Richard Madden as Ikaris, Kumail Nanjiani as Kingo, Lauren Ridloff as Makkari, Brian Tyree Henry as Phastos, Salma Hayek as Ajak, Lia McHugh as Sprite, Don Lee as Gilgamesh, and Angelina Jolie as Thena. The Eternals, which will be directed by Chloé Zhao, will come to theaters November 6, 2020.




Next up was the first show coming exclusively to Disney+, Marvel Studios’ The Falcon and The Winter Soldier! Anthony Mackie (The Falcon) and Sebastian Stan (The Winter Soldier) came on stage to greet the fans, and it was revealed that Daniel Brühl will return as the villain, Baron Zemo. Marvel Studios’ The Falcon and The Winter Soldier will come to Disney+ in the fall of 2020.



Next up is a classic Marvel Comics character making his movie debut -- Marvel Studios’ Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings starring Simu Liu in the title role. Appearing alongside Liu will be Awkwafina in an undisclosed role and Tony Leung as the (real) Mandarin. Marvel Studios’ Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings will be directed by Destin Daniel Cretton. In theaters February 12, 2021.



Marvel Studio’s WandaVision, an original series starring Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany, reprising their MCU roles as Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch and Vision. Costarring with them is Teyonah Parris, whom Feige revealed would be playing the adult Monica Rambeau, who was introduced as a child in Marvel Studios' Captain Marvel. Marvel Studios’ WandaVision will arrive on Disney+ in the spring of 2021.



The MCU's favorite trickster Loki will also make his way to Disney+! Marvel Studios’ Loki, an original series starring Tom Hiddleston, will see the god of mischief causing even more trouble starting in the spring of 2021.



Marvel Studios’ Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness starring Benedict Cumberbatch as Stephen Strange with Scott Derrickson returning as director. But joining Doctor Strange this time around will be the Scarlet Witch, played by Elizabeth Olsen. In another twist, the events of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness will connect with the Disney+ series Marvel Studios' WandaVision. Marvel Studios’ Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness will cast its spell in theaters May 7, 2021.



The legacy of the WHAT IF...? comics will be adapted for the screen! Marvel Studios’ What If…?, the first animated series in the MCU, will star Jeffrey Wright as the voice of The Watcher -- many actors from across the MCU will reprise their roles as voice talent. What If…? will present alternate realities in the Marvel Universe that are set to warp your world in the summer of 2021, exclusively on Disney+.



Another character from the MCU will appear on the small screen: Marvel Studios’ Hawkeye starring Jeremy Renner, who joined Kevin Feige onstage share more details about the show, which will introduce Kate Bishop, who has been hitting her mark in Marvel Comics. Marvel Studios’ Hawkeye will come to Disney+ in the fall of 2021.



It was also revealed that someone from Thor's story will return to the MCU -- Natalie Portman will return for Marvel Studios’ Thor: Love and Thunder, joining stars Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson. Taika Waititi returns as director, and he confirmed that Jane Foster will become the Mighty Thor, goddess of Thunder. Marvel Studios’ Thor: Love and Thunder will arrive in theaters November 5, 2021.



It looks like we're going to find out a lot more about Natasha Romanoff! Marvel Studios’ Black Widow starring Scarlett Johansson reprising her MCU role. She will be joined by David Harbour as Alexei AKA The Red Guardian, Florence Pugh as Yelena, O-T Fagbenle as Mason, and Rachel Weisz as Melina. Cate Shortland is directing. Marvel Studios’ Black Widow will come to theaters May 1, 2020.



And if all this massive Marvel Studios news wasn't enough... Kevin Feige introduced Mahershala Ali as Blade! Not only that -- Marvel Studios' Blade will also slash its way into theaters!



This is just the beginning! Stay tuned to Marvel.com for more details!


https://www.marvel.com/articles/movies/sdcc-2019-all-of-the-marvel-studios-news-coming-out-of-hall-h-at-san-diego-comic-con


This might be a palate cleanser line up to distinguish itself from the first three phases. I'm hopeful that a phase five will start with Black Panther 2, the Fantastic Four and the X-Men; throw in Spidey for that crowd pleasing MCU class photo. If they announce Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and Captain Marvel 2 with phase 4 I'm good. BP,FF, X is the future.
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Re: BLACK PANTHER CINEMA
« Reply #3079 on: July 21, 2019, 12:31:45 pm »
NO BLACK PANTHER 2 NEWS... YET

SDCC 2019: All of the Marvel Studios News Coming Out of Hall H at San Diego Comic-Con
The next movies revealed, plus more of what's to come on Disney+ and surprises!

BY MARVEL

Today at San Diego Comic-Con 2019, Marvel Studios took to the stage in Hall H to reveal the upcoming movies and TV shows from the studio – including the next chapter of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and what’s planned for Disney+. Here is all the news that came out of Hall H in one place!

Fans can look forward to these titles over the next two years:

To kick things off, Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige announced Marvel Studios' The Eternals!

Marvel Studios’ The Eternals starring Richard Madden as Ikaris, Kumail Nanjiani as Kingo, Lauren Ridloff as Makkari, Brian Tyree Henry as Phastos, Salma Hayek as Ajak, Lia McHugh as Sprite, Don Lee as Gilgamesh, and Angelina Jolie as Thena. The Eternals, which will be directed by Chloé Zhao, will come to theaters November 6, 2020.




Next up was the first show coming exclusively to Disney+, Marvel Studios’ The Falcon and The Winter Soldier! Anthony Mackie (The Falcon) and Sebastian Stan (The Winter Soldier) came on stage to greet the fans, and it was revealed that Daniel Brühl will return as the villain, Baron Zemo. Marvel Studios’ The Falcon and The Winter Soldier will come to Disney+ in the fall of 2020.



Next up is a classic Marvel Comics character making his movie debut -- Marvel Studios’ Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings starring Simu Liu in the title role. Appearing alongside Liu will be Awkwafina in an undisclosed role and Tony Leung as the (real) Mandarin. Marvel Studios’ Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings will be directed by Destin Daniel Cretton. In theaters February 12, 2021.



Marvel Studio’s WandaVision, an original series starring Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany, reprising their MCU roles as Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch and Vision. Costarring with them is Teyonah Parris, whom Feige revealed would be playing the adult Monica Rambeau, who was introduced as a child in Marvel Studios' Captain Marvel. Marvel Studios’ WandaVision will arrive on Disney+ in the spring of 2021.



The MCU's favorite trickster Loki will also make his way to Disney+! Marvel Studios’ Loki, an original series starring Tom Hiddleston, will see the god of mischief causing even more trouble starting in the spring of 2021.



Marvel Studios’ Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness starring Benedict Cumberbatch as Stephen Strange with Scott Derrickson returning as director. But joining Doctor Strange this time around will be the Scarlet Witch, played by Elizabeth Olsen. In another twist, the events of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness will connect with the Disney+ series Marvel Studios' WandaVision. Marvel Studios’ Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness will cast its spell in theaters May 7, 2021.



The legacy of the WHAT IF...? comics will be adapted for the screen! Marvel Studios’ What If…?, the first animated series in the MCU, will star Jeffrey Wright as the voice of The Watcher -- many actors from across the MCU will reprise their roles as voice talent. What If…? will present alternate realities in the Marvel Universe that are set to warp your world in the summer of 2021, exclusively on Disney+.



Another character from the MCU will appear on the small screen: Marvel Studios’ Hawkeye starring Jeremy Renner, who joined Kevin Feige onstage share more details about the show, which will introduce Kate Bishop, who has been hitting her mark in Marvel Comics. Marvel Studios’ Hawkeye will come to Disney+ in the fall of 2021.



It was also revealed that someone from Thor's story will return to the MCU -- Natalie Portman will return for Marvel Studios’ Thor: Love and Thunder, joining stars Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson. Taika Waititi returns as director, and he confirmed that Jane Foster will become the Mighty Thor, goddess of Thunder. Marvel Studios’ Thor: Love and Thunder will arrive in theaters November 5, 2021.



It looks like we're going to find out a lot more about Natasha Romanoff! Marvel Studios’ Black Widow starring Scarlett Johansson reprising her MCU role. She will be joined by David Harbour as Alexei AKA The Red Guardian, Florence Pugh as Yelena, O-T Fagbenle as Mason, and Rachel Weisz as Melina. Cate Shortland is directing. Marvel Studios’ Black Widow will come to theaters May 1, 2020.



And if all this massive Marvel Studios news wasn't enough... Kevin Feige introduced Mahershala Ali as Blade! Not only that -- Marvel Studios' Blade will also slash its way into theaters!



This is just the beginning! Stay tuned to Marvel.com for more details!


https://www.marvel.com/articles/movies/sdcc-2019-all-of-the-marvel-studios-news-coming-out-of-hall-h-at-san-diego-comic-con









AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!


There is soooooo much good stuff up here? That I'm absolutely thrilled...even though  BY FAAARRRRR THE MOST DISAPPOINTING THING ABOUT THE ABOVE IS THAT WESLEY SNIPES WON'T GET A REPRISAL AS BLADE. .


MARVEL SHOULD LET WESLEY SNIPES BE IN THE MCU AGAIN, UNVEILING HIS REPRISAL OF THE ROLE AS A MASSIVE SURPRISE AND USING IT TO PROPEL THE NEW BLADE INTO THE ROLE IN THE SAME WAY THAT ALL 3 SHAFTS WERE IMPORTANT PRESENCES IN THE "SHAFT" SERIES OF MOVIES.



THEY COULD'VE GIVEN WESLEY A SEND OFF WHILE SPINNING OFF TWO NEW BLADE IDEAS; MAKE THE CURRENT BLADE INTO "BLADES". ONE IS ALI, BLADE'S SON, AND THE OTHER IS FALLON GREY, BLADE'S DAUGHTER FROM THE 616 COMICS. THEY ARE THE RESULT OF BLADE'S UNION WITH DR. KAREN JENSON FROM BLADE 1. WHEN DR. KAREN FOUND OUT SHE WAS PREGGERS, SHE SHOOK BLADE BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T WANT HER KIDS RAISED IN BLADE'S MERCILESS BLOOD DEATH HORROR AND LOSS SOAKED WORLD. FALLON BECAME EXTRA POPULAR IN SCHOOL, AND I THINK HER STORY SHOULD BE THE STORY OF A YOUNG ADULT. MAYBE A HIGH SCHOOL TEEN, LIKE MILES MORALES. I THINK SHE SHOULD BE PLAYED BY OUR CONSCIOUS AFRAKAN DAUGHTER/SISTER AMANDLA STENBERG.




I REALLY THINK THAT AMANDLA STENBERG WOULD WRECK IT WITH THE YOUTH IN DISNEY+ WHILE BRINGING EN MASSE APPROBATION FROM WE ADULTS. I REALLY THINK SHE CAN CULTIVATE A FOLLOWING ON DISNEY+ AND MAKE A GUEST ON MCU "BLADE".


 MAHERSHALA ALI COULD PLAY ERIC BROOKS JR., SON OF ERIC BROOKS SR. AKA BLADE. ERIC JR. IS THE ELDER TWIN, AND HIS VAMPIRISM KICKS IN BEFORE FALLON'S DOES. HE DECIDES TO LOOK FOR HIS FATHER, AND RUNS ACROSS "THE NIGHTSTALKERS" LED BY WHISTLER'S DAUGHTER AND HANNIBAL KING...WHO'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR BLADE AND WATCHING BLADE JR. THEY TRAIN BLADE JR., AND ALI DOESN'T DON THE ICONIC BLADE UNIFORM IN THIS OPENING BLADE MOVIE AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT ERIC JR. AND THE NIGHTSTALKERS AND WHOEVER THE MAIN VILLAIN IS. INSTEAD, ERIC HAS HIS OWN KNIVES AND DBL ENDED BLADE SPEAR STYLE, ALONG WITH THE CLASSIC HI TECH WEAPONS LIKE SUN DAWGS, THE UV ARC BASED WEAPONRY, UV GRENADES, ETC. INSTEAD OF THE ONE HANDED LETHAL MACHINE PISTOL THAT BLADE SR. ROCKS? BLADE JR. ROCKS THE TRULY FEARSOME AND INTIMIDATING HK MP 7A1



BLADE 2? CAN BE CALLED: "BLADES" OR SOMETHING. IN IT WE FINALLY SEE WESLEY SNIPES, AND SNIPES DIES/RETIRES AND IN SO DOING PASSES ON THE MANTLE OF BLADE SOLELY TO ALI...COMPLETE WITH BLADE'S ICONIC TRENCH, SWORD, SHADES, ETC.





Y'all self defense practitioners here who were MOKF absolute junkies like me remember our boi The Cat?






I think that he should be THOROUGHLY REWORKED and put in the sequel of SHANG CHI. I think The Cat should be played by INTO THE BADLANDS star Daniel Wu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qt3EZ19s_Y



Reboot IRON FIST with LEWIS TAN as the star.  After all, Lewis Tan was almost Iron Fist before they settled on Finn. This time? Let's not let Hollywood and Disney racism screw up what should be a very good social, political and [ most important to the studios and suits, after the success of CRAZY RICH ASIANS ] money making move.





Keep Jessica Henwick as Colleen Wing.




And let's have us some DAUGHTERS OF THE DRAGON, thanks. Disney+ it.









What do yall think?



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« Reply #3080 on: July 21, 2019, 12:42:50 pm »
THE ABSENCE OF BP 2 REALLY WORRIES ME. EITHER THEY'RE GOING TO UNLEASH BP 2 ON US IN FEBRUARY 2021 AS IT SEEMS NOW, OR THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING REALLY STUPID AND INTRODUCE SHURI AS BP BY WAITING SO LONG THAT CHADWICK BOSEMAN...WHO'S NOW IN HIS MIDDLE 40'S...CAN'T REPRISE THE ROLE OF T'CHALLA.

I DO LIKE THE NOTION OF JANE TAKING OVER AS THOR, ESPECIALLY WITH CHRIS AND TESSA WRECKING SHOP AS THE NEW MIB. THEY'RE SMARTLY CONTINUOUSLY DIVERSIFYING THEIR PORTFOLIO, RIDING THEIR OVER THE TOP MCU SUCCESSES INTO OTHER ROLES.

BTW THE NEXT MEGA FRANCHISE THAT WILL DIVERSIFY BY 2021? THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS. REMEMBER THAT YOUR SUPREME ILLUMINATI IS TELLING YOU NOW, SO WHEN IT HAPPENS? YALL  CAN THANK ME.

KNOW WHAT OTHER FRANCHIES IS GOING TO DIVERSIFY? STAR TREK. AND STAR WARS WILL CONTINUE TO DIVERSIFY. BTW THE SOLO MOVIE DIDN'T SUCK. IT SHOULDN'T'VE TANKED THE WAY IT DID. I THINK IT WAS MORE BAD TIMING THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
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« Reply #3081 on: July 21, 2019, 01:41:11 pm »
The last Blade movie was 14 years ago, I have no issue with it not being Wesley.

I though IF was fine.

Daughters of the Dragon would be cool.

Feb 2021 is for Shang-Chi. Earliest for BP is 2022 unless something drops out. I.e. Inhumans was supposed to be a movie.
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« Reply #3082 on: July 21, 2019, 04:09:13 pm »
I'm sorry Supreme, in general I agree with you more than disagree, but some of your ideas here I don't agree with. Even though Amandla Stenberg is being pushed by Hollywood she hasn't proven she can get enough young or older people to actually support her films, especially with her as the star or being prominently in them, outside of the first Hunger Games. While The Hate U Give was praised by some it only made $35 million off a $23 million budget. And The Darkest Minds made $41 million of a $34 million budget. That's not to say that she won't eventually become the star I think Hollywood is investing in, but so far, that hasn't come to pass. I can't see putting a movie on her shoulders. Perhaps one of the Disney Plus shows, especially if she's part of an ensemble.

Tessa Thompson and Chris Hemsworth didn't wreck shop with MIB: International; they wrecked that franchise. It got pilloried by the reviewers and press. It hasn't even made $80 million domestic yet, off a relatively cheap $90-110 million budget. I don't think that's going to have any real bearing on them in the MCU, and while I don't think MIB: International was as terrible as lots of other people, it's poor showing does not sell Thompson and Hemsworth as bankable outside the MCU. Once again, both are good actors and likable and could eventually get there, but aren't there now. And Hemsworth has had several shots at it, but hasn't found a non-Thor role or franchise yet that is a hit with mass audiences.

Fast and Furious is already a diverse franchise. It's been ahead of the curve there. And while it will get more diverse-featuring female characters more prominently in the next entry I gather-as well as I think an upcoming female-led spin off or entry-it was a diverse franchise from the start. It's not like the mostly lily white franchises that are at times awkwardly diversifying that causes some to complain about 'forced diversity.'

For its time period, the original Star Trek was diverse, and throughout it's run, it has been more diverse than other television series. And Discovery has expanded on that. Comparatively Star Wars has not been as diverse and still has a ways to go to catch up to where Star Trek has already been.

The movie Solo-while decent-was a totally unnecessary film-and I think it deserved its fate. It was unasked for, it was a money grab, and it was cashing in on nostalgia months after some in Disney-Lucasfilm and the Hollywood Press mocked nostalgia while defending The Last Jedi. The Solo story was too lightweight and undercut the character of Han Solo. For one, it muddled if not outright ruined Han's character arc in Episode 4. In that film he went from a selfish person to someone willing to stick his neck out for his friends and for a cause that wasn't just about himself or money. Yet, Solo has him already at that point, and that his bluster in Episode 4 was just a bluff because he's always been a softy with a heart of gold underneath. Solo took away some of Han's danger. Solo also wasted Thandie Newton and it also took away some of Lando's competence. As a film itself, it wasn't bad, and better than Episodes 7 and 8, however it was a story that could've been told in a comic book or novel. They wasted something like $300 million on that film, and for what? You could've given that money to schools, the homeless, etc.

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« Reply #3083 on: July 22, 2019, 06:28:34 am »
Shang Chi--Revisiting the 10 Rings from the first Iron Man movie--Perfect.  My question is, since he can't be the son of Fu Manchu in the movies, will they make him the son of the real Mandarin to keep the initial concept of the son rebelling against his father?

Jane as Thor--I'm not surprised that they are bringing Lady Thor to the big screen, but I think they are missing the point that in comics, Jane had a different body as Thor (like Shazam).  So, there should be two actresses in this role.  But maybe they couldn't get NP to play Jane again if they did that.  But with the director of Thor Ragnarok at the helm, we should expect a certain amount of humor in this.  And the hammer? I guess all the pieces were just lying on the ground after Hel broke it so they could easily go the reforge it route.

Blade--I just want to know what Wesley Snipes thinks about it.

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« Reply #3084 on: July 22, 2019, 06:30:54 am »






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« Reply #3085 on: July 22, 2019, 08:23:35 am »
THE ABSENCE OF BP 2 REALLY WORRIES ME. EITHER THEY'RE GOING TO UNLEASH BP 2 ON US IN FEBRUARY 2021 AS IT SEEMS NOW, OR THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING REALLY STUPID AND INTRODUCE SHURI AS BP BY WAITING SO LONG THAT CHADWICK BOSEMAN...WHO'S NOW IN HIS MIDDLE 40'S...CAN'T REPRISE THE ROLE OF T'CHALLA.

I DO LIKE THE NOTION OF JANE TAKING OVER AS THOR, ESPECIALLY WITH CHRIS AND TESSA WRECKING SHOP AS THE NEW MIB. THEY'RE SMARTLY CONTINUOUSLY DIVERSIFYING THEIR PORTFOLIO, RIDING THEIR OVER THE TOP MCU SUCCESSES INTO OTHER ROLES.

BTW THE NEXT MEGA FRANCHISE THAT WILL DIVERSIFY BY 2021? THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS. REMEMBER THAT YOUR SUPREME ILLUMINATI IS TELLING YOU NOW, SO WHEN IT HAPPENS? YALL  CAN THANK ME.

KNOW WHAT OTHER FRANCHIES IS GOING TO DIVERSIFY? STAR TREK. AND STAR WARS WILL CONTINUE TO DIVERSIFY. BTW THE SOLO MOVIE DIDN'T SUCK. IT SHOULDN'T'VE TANKED THE WAY IT DID. I THINK IT WAS MORE BAD TIMING THAN ANYTHING ELSE.


They aren't going to replace T'Challa by Shuri ad BP. Coogler was reported to be writing the script by feigi almost a month ago. More so Coogler and Chadwick got alot on their plate right now in terms of movie's coming (which is probably good for T'Chadwick as he needed a break up in playing T'Challa so he can come back refreshed when it's time to film) Disney and Marvel know how to make money.

There's no way  that marvel would ever take the biggest Solo superhero in history and replace him for... What? To satisfy a few people chiming in Twitter that they want to see that? Black panther did something unique. It showed Black men and Black women coexisting as equals in the same space. No dysfunction, no propping one over the other. Equals. Everyone had an important role, everyone was respected.

Chadwick ain't going anywhere unless he wants to go

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Re: BLACK PANTHER CINEMA
« Reply #3086 on: July 22, 2019, 08:59:14 am »
I'm sorry Supreme, in general I agree with you more than disagree, but some of your ideas here I don't agree with. Even though Amandla Stenberg is being pushed by Hollywood she hasn't proven she can get enough young or older people to actually support her films, especially with her as the star or being prominently in them, outside of the first Hunger Games. While The Hate U Give was praised by some it only made $35 million off a $23 million budget. And The Darkest Minds made $41 million of a $34 million budget. That's not to say that she won't eventually become the star I think Hollywood is investing in, but so far, that hasn't come to pass. I can't see putting a movie on her shoulders. Perhaps one of the Disney Plus shows, especially if she's part of an ensemble.

Tessa Thompson and Chris Hemsworth didn't wreck shop with MIB: International; they wrecked that franchise. It got pilloried by the reviewers and press. It hasn't even made $80 million domestic yet, off a relatively cheap $90-110 million budget. I don't think that's going to have any real bearing on them in the MCU, and while I don't think MIB: International was as terrible as lots of other people, it's poor showing does not sell Thompson and Hemsworth as bankable outside the MCU. Once again, both are good actors and likable and could eventually get there, but aren't there now. And Hemsworth has had several shots at it, but hasn't found a non-Thor role or franchise yet that is a hit with mass audiences.

Fast and Furious is already a diverse franchise. It's been ahead of the curve there. And while it will get more diverse-featuring female characters more prominently in the next entry I gather-as well as I think an upcoming female-led spin off or entry-it was a diverse franchise from the start. It's not like the mostly lily white franchises that are at times awkwardly diversifying that causes some to complain about 'forced diversity.'

For its time period, the original Star Trek was diverse, and throughout it's run, it has been more diverse than other television series. And Discovery has expanded on that. Comparatively Star Wars has not been as diverse and still has a ways to go to catch up to where Star Trek has already been.

The movie Solo-while decent-was a totally unnecessary film-and I think it deserved its fate. It was unasked for, it was a money grab, and it was cashing in on nostalgia months after some in Disney-Lucasfilm and the Hollywood Press mocked nostalgia while defending The Last Jedi. The Solo story was too lightweight and undercut the character of Han Solo. For one, it muddled if not outright ruined Han's character arc in Episode 4. In that film he went from a selfish person to someone willing to stick his neck out for his friends and for a cause that wasn't just about himself or money. Yet, Solo has him already at that point, and that his bluster in Episode 4 was just a bluff because he's always been a softy with a heart of gold underneath. Solo took away some of Han's danger. Solo also wasted Thandie Newton and it also took away some of Lando's competence. As a film itself, it wasn't bad, and better than Episodes 7 and 8, however it was a story that could've been told in a comic book or novel. They wasted something like $300 million on that film, and for what? You could've given that money to schools, the homeless, etc.


I really like this answer above. I'll get to my thoughts on some of the specifics a little later when I have the time, but Idk that MIB only made about $80 million thus far. I must have accidentally looked at the wrong data. Well, check that: you said about $80 million domestic and that's what I thought it would make, but it's about $250 million international off of $110 million production. It'll probably make close to $400 million, which actually isn't bad...but definitely isn't wrecking shop. I don't remember where I saw more robust numbers [ maybe a projection? ], but I thought it probably close to eclipsing $600 million now...but the reality seems to suggest that it might not. I'm going to see it, anyway. I don't let critics make up my mind for me about movies.

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Re: BLACK PANTHER CINEMA
« Reply #3087 on: July 22, 2019, 09:11:30 am »
Phase four is only 2 years long and doensn't feature they heavy hitters at all. It is almost a chill phase. No BP, no CM, no avengers, no spider-man, not gog

Phase 5 is when things are gonna ramp back up again. billion dollar BP, billion dollar CM, billion dollar Spidey, GoG3, Blade, some likely team up movie (ultimates/avengers), and very possible the introduction to the Fox Properties.

This is marvel's way of pulling back after IW/Endgame because they realize they can't possibly increase the hype. Pull back and then start the crescendo again.

Not like BP got skipped by any sequels. DS and Thor 3 both came out before BP did.

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Re: BLACK PANTHER CINEMA
« Reply #3088 on: July 22, 2019, 12:13:36 pm »
I'm sorry Supreme, in general I agree with you more than disagree, but some of your ideas here I don't agree with. Even though Amandla Stenberg is being pushed by Hollywood she hasn't proven she can get enough young or older people to actually support her films, especially with her as the star or being prominently in them, outside of the first Hunger Games. While The Hate U Give was praised by some it only made $35 million off a $23 million budget. And The Darkest Minds made $41 million of a $34 million budget. That's not to say that she won't eventually become the star I think Hollywood is investing in, but so far, that hasn't come to pass. I can't see putting a movie on her shoulders. Perhaps one of the Disney Plus shows, especially if she's part of an ensemble.

Tessa Thompson and Chris Hemsworth didn't wreck shop with MIB: International; they wrecked that franchise. It got pilloried by the reviewers and press. It hasn't even made $80 million domestic yet, off a relatively cheap $90-110 million budget. I don't think that's going to have any real bearing on them in the MCU, and while I don't think MIB: International was as terrible as lots of other people, it's poor showing does not sell Thompson and Hemsworth as bankable outside the MCU. Once again, both are good actors and likable and could eventually get there, but aren't there now. And Hemsworth has had several shots at it, but hasn't found a non-Thor role or franchise yet that is a hit with mass audiences.

Fast and Furious is already a diverse franchise. It's been ahead of the curve there. And while it will get more diverse-featuring female characters more prominently in the next entry I gather-as well as I think an upcoming female-led spin off or entry-it was a diverse franchise from the start. It's not like the mostly lily white franchises that are at times awkwardly diversifying that causes some to complain about 'forced diversity.'

For its time period, the original Star Trek was diverse, and throughout it's run, it has been more diverse than other television series. And Discovery has expanded on that. Comparatively Star Wars has not been as diverse and still has a ways to go to catch up to where Star Trek has already been.

The movie Solo-while decent-was a totally unnecessary film-and I think it deserved its fate. It was unasked for, it was a money grab, and it was cashing in on nostalgia months after some in Disney-Lucasfilm and the Hollywood Press mocked nostalgia while defending The Last Jedi. The Solo story was too lightweight and undercut the character of Han Solo. For one, it muddled if not outright ruined Han's character arc in Episode 4. In that film he went from a selfish person to someone willing to stick his neck out for his friends and for a cause that wasn't just about himself or money. Yet, Solo has him already at that point, and that his bluster in Episode 4 was just a bluff because he's always been a softy with a heart of gold underneath. Solo took away some of Han's danger. Solo also wasted Thandie Newton and it also took away some of Lando's competence. As a film itself, it wasn't bad, and better than Episodes 7 and 8, however it was a story that could've been told in a comic book or novel. They wasted something like $300 million on that film, and for what? You could've given that money to schools, the homeless, etc.


I really like this answer above. I'll get to my thoughts on some of the specifics a little later when I have the time, but Idk that MIB only made about $80 million thus far. I must have accidentally looked at the wrong data. Well, check that: you said about $80 million domestic and that's what I thought it would make, but it's about $250 million international off of $110 million production. It'll probably make close to $400 million, which actually isn't bad...but definitely isn't wrecking shop. I don't remember where I saw more robust numbers [ maybe a projection? ], but I thought it probably close to eclipsing $600 million now...but the reality seems to suggest that it might not. I'm going to see it, anyway. I don't let critics make up my mind for me about movies.

More of my response about the above when I get back.

I've seen MIB: International. I used a free ticket I had, because I didn't feel like spending any money on any films with Liam Neeson in them, whether he's the star or not, anymore. Rarely do I let the critics determine if I'm going to see a film if I really want to see it for whatever reason. I didn't think International was a bad film, and that Thompson and Hemsworth continue to have an easy chemistry between them. However, the film was lightweight. I was skimming through the novelization and there was a different original story and it appears villain as well, and that goes along with some of the reports about behind-the-scenes changes. That director F. Gary Gray wanted a darker, more topical film, while the producer inserted himself into the creative process way too much. So, the movie we got isn't bad on the eyes, it's frothy, but ultimately a mindless popcorn film. I wasn't too put out about that because I'm not a fan really of the MIB franchise. And I thought for the most part International kept the aesthetics and breeziness of the other three films.

The good thing about the film when it comes to budget was I heard/read that it might have been around $90 million to make and I remember seeing one article that said it only needed to make $220 worldwide to be just okay. From what you've put here, it's done that. Though one thing to consider here is how much money did Sony spend on advertising, which isn't in the production budgets they put out. While the production budget might be relatively modest, they might have spent another $100 million on advertising the film for all we know. All that being said, even if it breaks even or eeks out a profit, the stench of it being considered a loser means we won't be seeing Thompson and Hemsworth headlining any future MIB films. They might just shift the MIB franchise to streaming, pay a ton to get Will Smith back, or bide some time and try again with two newer new leads.

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Re: BLACK PANTHER CINEMA
« Reply #3089 on: July 22, 2019, 12:17:48 pm »
Phase four is only 2 years long and doensn't feature they heavy hitters at all. It is almost a chill phase. No BP, no CM, no avengers, no spider-man, not gog

Phase 5 is when things are gonna ramp back up again. billion dollar BP, billion dollar CM, billion dollar Spidey, GoG3, Blade, some likely team up movie (ultimates/avengers), and very possible the introduction to the Fox Properties.

This is marvel's way of pulling back after IW/Endgame because they realize they can't possibly increase the hype. Pull back and then start the crescendo again.

Not like BP got skipped by any sequels. DS and Thor 3 both came out before BP did.

Good way of looking at it. I hadn't considered that before. It will be interesting to see if the audience will be there as strongly this next go round. The MCU brand is about to be tested, though I don't think by much.