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« Reply #3255 on: September 25, 2020, 09:56:23 pm »
Empire Magazine Reveals Covers Of Tribute Issues For BLACK PANTHER Star Chadwick Boseman

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Black Panther star Chadwick Boseman passed away last month after a lengthy battle with cancer. The actor never went public with his diagnosis, and continued playing T'Challa while secretly fighting the disease. To call him a hero is an understatement, and the impact he had on the world will continue to be felt for a very long time to come.

A lot of tributes have found their way online since Boseman's death, both from those who know him and those whose lives were made better by his time spent on screen.

Now, Empire Magazine has revealed the covers for its tribute issue for Boseman. The first will be available on newstands, while the second reflects on the actor's biggest roles courtesy of artist Kingsley Nebechi. It's unclear what will be inside the magazine itself, but it will likely be a rehash of content already published online.

Regardless, it's still good to see a publication like this highlight Boseman, as the impact he had on Hollywood was huge. With Black Widow delayed until 2021, it remains to be seen whether that movie will be used to pay tribute to the actor the same way Captain Marvel's opening did with Stan Lee.

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« Reply #3256 on: October 10, 2020, 05:22:35 pm »
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Marauders #13 Review
By ND Jones

Marauders (2019-) #13 by Vita Ayala
My rating: 1 of 5 stars


Ruined Ta-Nehisi Coates's Work


Well, this issue was yet another crash and burn of the Ororo (Storm)/T'Challa (Black Panther) relationship. Smh. As with their marriage, Marvel decided to create a situation to ruin the only African relationship in the Marvel Universe. Don't get me wrong, Vita Ayala wrote it wonderfully, giving Storm the ultimate reason for her betrayal of T'Challa's family and country--protection of the world. Yes, of course, the world is at stake in the new X of Swords event so Storm must play her part. Not only that, she has no time to waste, including for T'Challa to grant her permission to take a sword that was created to fit this story. Oh, and of course, the sword can only be wielded by the king and T'Challa was conveniently unavailable for Ororo when she went to Wakanda seeking their assistance.

The thing is this, there were many ways this could've played out for Storm to obtain her sword needed to participate in the competition, including giving her a sword that is connected to her past and mythos instead of Wakanda's. It DID NOT have to be a story of her burning bridges with her former in-laws and ex-husband, who Ayala wrote as clearly loving Ororo and she loving them in return. But, in the end, it wasn't really Ororo's need to protect the world that led her to steal from her ex-husband and betray his family's trust but, as she puts it to Shuri: "Your brother has ignored my calls for his help because they are not convenient for him to answer right now."

So, when it comes down to it, Ayala places the blame for Ororo's betrayal at T'Challa's feet. This is also the the same man they later writes as saying: "We could have done this together, my love. I would do anything for you." A man like that would not ignore the woman he loves in one of her greatest times of need. Sorry, that just doesn't wash. Every time writers want to begin to slide away from the relationship, they pull out the same card with T'Challa--He places everything and everyone above Ororo. Come on. Give the character some credit when it comes to this woman. Let him be there for her. Let him be her rock. Him being her hero takes nothing away from her being a "strong woman." Sheesh. But no, we get the "strong black woman don't need a black man or any man trope." This type of mishandling of characters only "works" if the goal of the comic is not simply to forward a plot Ororo will play a role but to get her from under a relationship X-writers don't seem to have any interest in writing.

Coates spent four years working to unravel the mess of how the end of these characters' marriage was handled. He had them come to terms with what went "wrong" in their marriage, slowly developed them as friends again and then as lovers. Coates elevated Ororo to a goddess, using T'Challa's and Wakanda's faith in her to unlock her godhead. He gave Ororo a family in not only the royal family but the people of Wakanda. She had come to view them as her people as much as mutants. He wrote a nuanced Ororo with an appreciation and respect for her Kenyan and Harlem roots, viewing herself as more than a mutant because . . . well, she certainly is. He had her recognize her intersectionality, which is something that, for a Black woman in comics, rarely, if ever, happens. But in this single issue, Ayala disregarded most of that rich growth and development in exchange for contrived storytelling to achieve an end goal of breaking up the two most iconic African/Black characters in Marvel's history.

In the end, Ororo proclaims: "I have been protector longer than I have been a wife. I know the sacrifices that must be made. I know who I am."

Yeah, we fans of the relationship get it, Ayala and Marvel. Thanks for the bludgeon. Ororo Munroe can't be a three-dimensional character in a one-dimensional comic. She has to choose. Woman (wife) or protector? Mutant or human? Wakandan or Krakoan? Love or duty? I guess only the likes of a Sue Richards gets to try to have all of those things and more.

It's really sad and disappointing. As an African American woman, it was nice, for once, to have a Black woman and man paired in a respectful and healthy romantic relationship. Coates reestablished that and this issue tore it down.


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« Reply #3257 on: October 11, 2020, 05:26:12 am »
You know it's bad when butterfly at CBR is saying all of that. But it's true, it shows just how petty and disrespectful the x office is and how unwilling they are to play ball, and with that, T'Challa should finally be free from Storm for good and be allowed to move on

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« Reply #3258 on: October 11, 2020, 10:12:25 am »
You know it's bad when butterfly at CBR is saying all of that. But it's true, it shows just how petty and disrespectful the x office is and how unwilling they are to play ball, and with that, T'Challa should finally be free from Storm for good and be allowed to move on

Like I said elsewhere, X gotta hate. They brought in Vita to do a hit job and they did it very well.
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« Reply #3259 on: October 11, 2020, 11:29:22 pm »
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Marauders #13 Review
By ND Jones

Marauders (2019-) #13 by Vita Ayala
My rating: 1 of 5 stars


Ruined Ta-Nehisi Coates's Work


Well, this issue was yet another crash and burn of the Ororo (Storm)/T'Challa (Black Panther) relationship. Smh. As with their marriage, Marvel decided to create a situation to ruin the only African relationship in the Marvel Universe. Don't get me wrong, Vita Ayala wrote it wonderfully, giving Storm the ultimate reason for her betrayal of T'Challa's family and country--protection of the world. Yes, of course, the world is at stake in the new X of Swords event so Storm must play her part. Not only that, she has no time to waste, including for T'Challa to grant her permission to take a sword that was created to fit this story. Oh, and of course, the sword can only be wielded by the king and T'Challa was conveniently unavailable for Ororo when she went to Wakanda seeking their assistance.

The thing is this, there were many ways this could've played out for Storm to obtain her sword needed to participate in the competition, including giving her a sword that is connected to her past and mythos instead of Wakanda's. It DID NOT have to be a story of her burning bridges with her former in-laws and ex-husband, who Ayala wrote as clearly loving Ororo and she loving them in return. But, in the end, it wasn't really Ororo's need to protect the world that led her to steal from her ex-husband and betray his family's trust but, as she puts it to Shuri: "Your brother has ignored my calls for his help because they are not convenient for him to answer right now."

So, when it comes down to it, Ayala places the blame for Ororo's betrayal at T'Challa's feet. This is also the the same man they later writes as saying: "We could have done this together, my love. I would do anything for you." A man like that would not ignore the woman he loves in one of her greatest times of need. Sorry, that just doesn't wash. Every time writers want to begin to slide away from the relationship, they pull out the same card with T'Challa--He places everything and everyone above Ororo. Come on. Give the character some credit when it comes to this woman. Let him be there for her. Let him be her rock. Him being her hero takes nothing away from her being a "strong woman." Sheesh. But no, we get the "strong black woman don't need a black man or any man trope." This type of mishandling of characters only "works" if the goal of the comic is not simply to forward a plot Ororo will play a role but to get her from under a relationship X-writers don't seem to have any interest in writing.

Coates spent four years working to unravel the mess of how the end of these characters' marriage was handled. He had them come to terms with what went "wrong" in their marriage, slowly developed them as friends again and then as lovers. Coates elevated Ororo to a goddess, using T'Challa's and Wakanda's faith in her to unlock her godhead. He gave Ororo a family in not only the royal family but the people of Wakanda. She had come to view them as her people as much as mutants. He wrote a nuanced Ororo with an appreciation and respect for her Kenyan and Harlem roots, viewing herself as more than a mutant because . . . well, she certainly is. He had her recognize her intersectionality, which is something that, for a Black woman in comics, rarely, if ever, happens. But in this single issue, Ayala disregarded most of that rich growth and development in exchange for contrived storytelling to achieve an end goal of breaking up the two most iconic African/Black characters in Marvel's history.

Having religiously avoided all things Coates since Coates BP Season 1, I had zero notion of this. In my experience? Coates was determined to turn T'Challa into T'CHUMPA and was constantly having T'Challa begging for Ororo's forgiveness, and basically groveling at nearly every turn; only to be disrespectfully tread upon by the other characters in the book. Especially the no-name "who dat is?" one off or a couple issues present and disappearing new characters that Coates created. Can anyone who's actually read Coates' run shed some light on this? Do I owe TurnCaotes a big ole apology in this area?

In the end, Ororo proclaims: "I have been protector longer than I have been a wife. I know the sacrifices that must be made. I know who I am."

Yeah, we fans of the relationship get it, Ayala and Marvel. Thanks for the bludgeon. Ororo Munroe can't be a three-dimensional character in a one-dimensional comic. She has to choose. Woman (wife) or protector? Mutant or human? Wakandan or Krakoan? Love or duty? I guess only the likes of a Sue Richards gets to try to have all of those things and more.

It's really sad and disappointing. As an African American woman, it was nice, for once, to have a Black woman and man paired in a respectful and healthy romantic relationship. Coates reestablished that and this issue tore it down.

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« Reply #3260 on: October 13, 2020, 04:44:16 am »
Wow, Ture, Coates actually did something positive for the BP mythos?

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« Reply #3262 on: October 13, 2020, 02:25:42 pm »
Wow, Ture, Coates actually did something positive for the BP mythos?


I had no idea of this, either. Can someone list the POSITIVE things that Coates has done with BP.
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« Reply #3263 on: October 13, 2020, 03:48:42 pm »
While the review I posted by ND Jones illustrates the fallacies and out of character behaviors fall squarely at the writer's feet, it is her opinion that Coates handled the relationship between T'Challa and Ororo satisfactorily. I support her critique of Marauders #13 but I can't in good conscious sign off on Coates working in the best interests of the Black Panther.
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« Reply #3264 on: October 13, 2020, 03:53:04 pm »
Wow, Ture, Coates actually did something positive for the BP mythos?


I had no idea of this, either. Can someone list the POSITIVE things that Coates has done with BP.

I feel that almost everything Coates did that was potentially positive he somehow managed to circumvent.
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« Reply #3265 on: October 13, 2020, 04:04:11 pm »
Wow, Ture, Coates actually did something positive for the BP mythos?


I had no idea of this, either. Can someone list the POSITIVE things that Coates has done with BP.

Coates did something positive for BP?

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Re: BLACK PANTHER MEDIA - *FIGHT THE A.G.E.N.D.A. * Recast T'Challa!
« Reply #3266 on: October 13, 2020, 04:31:08 pm »
Oooo, now someone is rumoring CGIing T'Challa's last appearance is a consideration. For Bast's sake! All these theories, not to mention the so called opinions stating that fans want everyone but T'Challa the Black Panther back on screen is nothing more than feelers and bait chumming the waters. What is worst is the pretense that not recasting T'Challa the Black Panther is somehow being respectful to the late Chadwick Boseman. To add insult to injury it is implied that he would want it this way when clearly he stated otherwise.

To date Marvel is playing it smart by remaining silent. It is too soon after Chadwick Boseman's untimely passing to make a good decision. Six months from now things will look differently. Recasting T'challa the Black Panther will not only be seen as preferable but forward thinking in terms of both culture and franchise.

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« Reply #3267 on: October 13, 2020, 05:22:39 pm »
Wow, Ture, Coates actually did something positive for the BP mythos?


I had no idea of this, either. Can someone list the POSITIVE things that Coates has done with BP.

Coates did something positive for BP?




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« Reply #3268 on: October 14, 2020, 04:22:38 am »
Oooo, now someone is rumoring CGIing T'Challa's last appearance is a consideration. For Bast's sake! All these theories, not to mention the so called opinions stating that fans want everyone but T'Challa the Black Panther back on screen is nothing more than feelers and bait chumming the waters. What is worst is the pretense that not recasting T'Challa the Black Panther is somehow being respectful to the late Chadwick Boseman. To add insult to injury it is implied that he would want it this way when clearly he stated otherwise.

To date Marvel is playing it smart by remaining silent. It is too soon after Chadwick Boseman's untimely passing to make a good decision. Six months from now things will look differently. Recasting T'challa the Black Panther will not only be seen as preferable but forward thinking in terms of both culture and franchise.


Yeah Marvel isn't going to say anything about it for awhile now. Its been less than two months, these people need to back off

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« Reply #3269 on: October 15, 2020, 09:43:04 am »
This is the type of movie poster I want to see for Black Panther 2.




THE BLACK PANTHER 2 RICH IN ESPIONAGE, A POLITICAL THRILLER.


FIGHTING AND OUT THINKING SUPER VILLAINS!


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PUSHING HIMSELF TO THE LIMIT AND BEYOND!



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