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« Reply #1140 on: October 12, 2017, 02:18:32 pm »
You know who would make a great pairing for T'challa... epecially movie T'challa...

an actual goddess

black Valkryie

(then again, movie valkryie may be near Thor class of powerful, which would be outside T'challa movie weight class)

(but would be cool as hell lol)

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« Reply #1141 on: October 12, 2017, 03:10:05 pm »
BTW, you don't need the inhumans to give a love interest powers.

In addition to whatever sorcery is out there ala tetu, or whatever other gods are messing around with stuff

you can easily have someone develop powers via the vibranium mound.

Yea, the mythos have their own gods and sorcery. A Wakandan love interest should be empowered by a Wakandan god.  Or God forbid T'Challa gets to meet a Nigerian, Eritrean or some other African woman in the continent he was born in lol.  And god forbid they have super powers too, by Afrikan gods

I have the Croc/Dino god come back ( the god would be a female only, would be model after Corazon Kwanboka & Mpho Khati) & have take over/merge with a Wakandan-American (a Wakanda who being in the US for atleast 2 gens) She would be model after Cocaine Lorraine  & Jessica Parker Kennedy..     

It would be similar to Firestorm/Valkyrie ( current version).. BP would end u[ dating them both, trying figure out how to  separate them without killing them ( if I went that route the younger Wakanda would in up being the older Wakanda god  avatar), his feeling for them does he love one of the/in love with one of them or both separately or going really into the combine version of  them..

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« Reply #1142 on: October 12, 2017, 03:12:26 pm »
So. Specifically. What does non superpowered Monica add to the mythos??

Ideally, she is Lois Lane.  Orginal (or early in their career) love interests usual have more staying power; love interests created today will disappear with every new writer.  Look at Cap.  Both Carters are his original love interests; when they were taking out, every new writer changes the love interest.  Sharon keeps coming back, even from the Dead.

Really, if you want a love interest to stick; it's a love interest that was put in place early in a character's career that stays.  (And even that's not a guarantee.)

And I say this as someone who doesn't care for Monica, pro or con.

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« Reply #1143 on: October 12, 2017, 07:52:09 pm »

Make her a inhuman from Utolan & use her ties to that Afrikan inhuman nation to have Wakanda from a treaty/agreement (to back each other up in conflicts with other nations).. 

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Utolan


At that point, wouldn't we just be better off making a new character with that backstory?

It'd almost be like trying to turn Gwen Stacey into Black Cat or Silk or Silver Sable, instead of just creating Felicia, Mindy and er.. (does quick google search) Silver.  I don't mind Monica but I agree she is a bit of a relic... basically an outdated trope for a love interest. 

More reason why i wanted the comics to have given BP something (anything!) to work with these past 5 years, as something to draw from for the MCU.


I'd be cool with a new character as well from that roll but as you know my brother most new characters rarely get over with a fan base or the next writer.. See QDJ or Zuri as a examples.. RH will probably always be my favorite run or my 1A, but but it really is jarring to see both those characters for the most benign existent in BP life & Wakanda life for yrs.. or from a storytelling sense in my opinion.

I Kno some ppl feel like their over to much over lap between QDJ & Zuri & Shuri & S'Yan but but to me that really isn't it at all and it's lazy thinking.. it's like saying as overlap between Sasuke, Shikamaru and Gaara (QDJ & Shuri) & Killer Bee & Kakashi ( S'Yan & Zuri) to BP - Naruto ( aka the main character)..

Which is why a lot of writers will purposely repurpose important Supporting Cast members into new roles sometimes they make sense see War Machine and sometimes they don't see Queenpin Black Cat..

In BP case in the long run I think it would be better to repurpose Monica Lynn. She doesn't even have to get really cool power but just something to keep her from being kidnapped and or ability.. such as she has a built-in force field or healing Factor. Something simple just to keep it from getting killed.. the major thing she would brain is the ability to unite both those Nations. Also when you're creating a new character you at times going to run to Danger of that new character being taken by another franchise or writer and become that other franchises permanent addition.. a new black female or male inhuman even though they would first appear in Black Panther book wood look to be and many eyes as both that franchise character. Why would miss Lynn we will know she will always primary be a BP character first..


Excellent points!  Although i've stopped being a big spider-man fan long ago (unless his name is Miles) the concept of Peter Parker has always interesting to me because he has so many supporting cast members interwoven, from Flash to Harry to Robbie, Jonah, Ned, etc that i don't really believe the overlap complaint is valid either.  Some characters get more play than others depending on the era we're in but it's part of what keeps things fresh and builds the lore.  I feel the same way about the love interests, for which most of us can name 5 of his off the top of our head, easy; some of them relatively redundant and with the times (MJ, Gwen, Betty) and others relatively newer creations to give him a different, more 'exciting' look (Felicia, Silver, Silk).

Altho, creating a new character back then vs creating one now (that sticks) is likely different, and especially creating a white character vs creating a black one.. as we've seen with BP's history.  Between his OG history and the additions that Priest, Hudlin and even Liss made with certain character additions, I think Zuri to W'Kabi to QDJ to Shuri, Syan, Sofia, K. Cole, Okoye, Nakia, M'Baku, Erik, Achebe, Zanda, Hunter.. i think a writer/writers should've been double-downed on them the same way Parker's supporting cast gets double downed.  And that's not a popularity thing, that's just a being invested in the mytho thing.. which goes back to what we've always talked about when it comes to that.  Preaching to the choir lol.

But when it comes to the love interest, it would be good to modernize Monica for this new era that we're in.. because even in Priest's run she felt kinda flabby n sick to me, like Larry Holmes.  But more important for me, i gotta see the dial get moved from 2 in 50 to at least, like 10. 

10 in 55 years.  lol

Within that, I would like to see Monica re-purposed in a way that makes her important/visible in the greater MU sandbox, the same way Lois Lane is as a reporter, or Mary Jane Watson is as a model and now oddly an assistant to Tony Stark. I agree that she needs some respect to her name but i also think we need a good writer who can sink his feet into the mytho for a good several years and really go-in on the charismatic/charming side of T'Challa while starting relationships with new females to build a better foundation for that part of his lore...like a character like Zenzi should've never been wasted as a wack irredeemable lackey.    And then when it comes to the larger MU, a writer that would say hey mr. Pak why don't you have Silk and T'Challa flirt a bit, hell let's do a collabo with your Cho-Hulk book and my BP book and lets get the Silk writer to do a three-way mini arc!  Basically network and be a part of each others books and events.  Have those characters interact with the mytho characters too and get them that exposure to the greater mu.


Excellent points, I agree but I have no interest in seeing H'unter/Hunter or Sofia or Verman or Ross again..  I get tried of seeing random ass whiteness interjected into BP comics or anything with black leads to be honest.. it's annoying and it offends me to be honest.

If I were making Monica an Inhuman I wouldn't have her & BP date/get back together again (maybe hook up at most or Friends with benefits)

Malaika is  only past BP love interest I really want to see BP re-date/date again

If they ever stop drawing Guillotine like 16 yr old white girl and like the brown Algerian-French adult woman she supposed to be I be cool they reveal she & BP used to date.

I like Kasper but at times my feel he would fit better outside BP myths because CJP made him such an independent character that their hardly much to tie him to the myths imo.. BP can make him a member of the HZ but wouldn't make sense to me to make him the leader of it ( an idea I've heard meantion by alot of fans over the years), he could be BP sidekick ( another idea heard alot).. I think he'd work best as member or Order of the panther spy organization..

I hate H'unter as a as a concept but think if CJP would made Kasper his son it would better served the character in the long run.. Or made him made one of BP cousins kids or made his dad disgraced or exile Wakandan who started that gang he started.. Idk something to give him stronger ties to Wakanda or BP..
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Re: The Black Panther Movie ... The Redemption of T'Challa!!!
« Reply #1144 on: October 12, 2017, 08:39:20 pm »
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« Reply #1145 on: October 12, 2017, 09:09:27 pm »
A lot of great discussion that i probably wouldn't be able to contribute to until tomorrow.  But there was one point above all else that i just gotta comment on real quick, it's just that important.

You know who would make a great pairing for T'challa... epecially movie T'challa...

an actual goddess

black Valkryie

(then again, movie valkryie may be near Thor class of powerful, which would be outside T'challa movie weight class)

(but would be cool as hell lol)

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« Reply #1146 on: October 13, 2017, 04:37:36 am »
i'll let teh spears slide since they got bullet proof... robe things on

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« Reply #1147 on: October 13, 2017, 04:38:12 am »
A lot of great discussion that i probably wouldn't be able to contribute to until tomorrow.  But there was one point above all else that i just gotta comment on real quick, it's just that important.

You know who would make a great pairing for T'challa... epecially movie T'challa...

an actual goddess

black Valkryie

(then again, movie valkryie may be near Thor class of powerful, which would be outside T'challa movie weight class)

(but would be cool as hell lol)

MindofShadow, my dear friend, colleague, comrade and brother... knowing that you're a Thor fan I heed you this cautionary warning out of respect...

...if the Odinson once again gets his girl snatched by a black guy... i simply cannot be held responsible for the taste-less and classless race-bait jabs, puns and jokes straight out of a corny 80s interracial cuckhold porno that I will be reigning upon the Odinson.  :-\  I don't even dislike Thor, but certain behaviors of mine just can't be helped :-\ 

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« Reply #1148 on: October 13, 2017, 06:32:19 am »
i'll let teh spears slide since they got bullet proof... robe things on

See i thought they were shields, but they rocking the Dashiki's. still would of liked to see them not carry spears but Oh well. T'Challa is sporting the MCU gear so im good.

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« Reply #1149 on: October 13, 2017, 06:56:10 am »
i'll let teh spears slide since they got bullet proof... robe things on

See i thought they were shields, but they rocking the Dashiki's. still would of liked to see them not carry spears but Oh well. T'Challa is sporting the MCU gear so im good.

i think it was mentioned the border tribes have a fascade of being "normal" africa

maybe htats why they have spears? not to give away that Wakanda is there in all its superiority to avoid detection?

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« Reply #1150 on: October 13, 2017, 09:20:33 am »
Mortal dropping Truth bombs. Seriously the women associated with Tchalla could be: Monica (both Lynn and rambeau) maliaka, silk, Shang Chi's sister Kwai Far, Even throw Carol in there as a sexual tension between them (wouldn't have then get together, but make it known) hell I would even have Sue Storm mention she would get Down with the king of she wasn't with Reed. Let it be known Tchalla is a king and there are plenty that want to be in that


Exactly.

Also, the reason why i'm side-bar'ing this topic here is because even though the actual comics/floppies are dead to me, they can still have some purpose as the library/memory bank that the MCU pulls from.  If T'Challa and Kwai Far have even an implied romance in the comics.. or White Fox (aka Korean "Black Cat") makes kissy faces at him, that's all Coogler and J Cole need.  They'll run with it and fill in the blanks. 

T'Challa got a lot of strong women in his mytho but not a lot that are applicable (or have been utilized) to do fun suave stuff with.  i.e. James Bond on a mission with a femme fatale... versus James Bond on a mission strictly with his sister and platonic female friends...  There's room for both buuuuut one brings a different type of excitement over the other.  I want to see more of that type of women; wakandan sorceress, 007 agents, demonesses... but without* more of that platonic rudderless stuff. 

Next, Coogler can repurpose Zanda the same way he did Nakia.  Or Sofia.

edit- I meant "without"

Which is what we are getting with Nakia N'yongo and what makes this so exciting that Coogler and T'Chadwick are taking T'Challa where he needs to be. The comics just need someone who can follow suit. Redjack has done some great work on the Avengers Cartoon, I hope that BP is a big success and hopefully he gets more exploration and maybe his own actual solo series (His world is big enough for it) and he can keep getting bigger.

We just need that guy who is a Priest/Hudlin/Mcduffie Bp fan who can channel that powerful BP we need with a stellar artist to realize the greatness and make the comics catch up to the other mediums in terms of how to treat T'Challa. frankly im am  cautiously optimistic with this evans guy and i hope he can produce a solid successful BP run that can potentially maybe turn into an ongoing where we get the REAL T'Challa


Its messed up to say this but sometimes I wonder how much better off T'Challa would have been if Hudlin had just continued writing him in his implied hoe-phase (promiscious/harems/not concerned with romance) instead of the marriage route.  Even though it was very brief, it essentially was laying the groundwork for T'Chadwick.

And Hudlin would've got breh's numbers up lol.  And given Coogler a lot of stuff to work with.



I absolutely agree that T'Challa MOST DEFINITELY needs to be the number 1 Hottest Bachelor in 616. James Bondx100. In my fanfic? T'Challa has to deal with...among other things...the complex multilayered machinations and romantic attentions of Hela, Selene The Black Queen of the Hellfire Club, Moondragon, Red She-Hulk, Green She-Hulk, and Princess Zanda.

Black Widow tried to hit that, too. Several times. So did Tigra, Elektra, Captain Marvel, Rogue, Magik, Firestorm, Silver Sable, The Asgardian Enchantress, Alejandra Jones the female Ghost Rider, Janet van Dyne The Wasp, Mockingbird, and pretty much every other lady. Including Shanna of the jungle, Satanna, Valkyrie, Akivasha The Vampire Princess [ daughter of Akasha, Queen of The Damned, Mother of All Vampires ], Dreamqueen the daughter of the demoness Zhilla Char from being raped by Nightmare, and the goddess Artemis.

Several of the above women succeeded, too. They're in love/lust with T'Challa to this day, as a result. Others came tantalizingly close, thus whetting their appetite even more for the pursuit and conquer of T'Challa.

Spectrum and Susan Storm would both hit that, if they weren't involved with their current men.
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Re: The Black Panther Movie ... The Redemption of T'Challa!!!
« Reply #1151 on: October 13, 2017, 09:25:19 am »
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« Reply #1152 on: October 13, 2017, 10:09:25 am »
Mortal dropping Truth bombs. Seriously the women associated with Tchalla could be: Monica (both Lynn and rambeau) maliaka, silk, Shang Chi's sister Kwai Far, Even throw Carol in there as a sexual tension between them (wouldn't have then get together, but make it known) hell I would even have Sue Storm mention she would get Down with the king of she wasn't with Reed. Let it be known Tchalla is a king and there are plenty that want to be in that


Exactly.

Also, the reason why i'm side-bar'ing this topic here is because even though the actual comics/floppies are dead to me, they can still have some purpose as the library/memory bank that the MCU pulls from.  If T'Challa and Kwai Far have even an implied romance in the comics.. or White Fox (aka Korean "Black Cat") makes kissy faces at him, that's all Coogler and J Cole need.  They'll run with it and fill in the blanks. 

T'Challa got a lot of strong women in his mytho but not a lot that are applicable (or have been utilized) to do fun suave stuff with.  i.e. James Bond on a mission with a femme fatale... versus James Bond on a mission strictly with his sister and platonic female friends...  There's room for both buuuuut one brings a different type of excitement over the other.  I want to see more of that type of women; wakandan sorceress, 007 agents, demonesses... but without* more of that platonic rudderless stuff. 

Next, Coogler can repurpose Zanda the same way he did Nakia.  Or Sofia.

edit- I meant "without"

Which is what we are getting with Nakia N'yongo and what makes this so exciting that Coogler and T'Chadwick are taking T'Challa where he needs to be. The comics just need someone who can follow suit. Redjack has done some great work on the Avengers Cartoon, I hope that BP is a big success and hopefully he gets more exploration and maybe his own actual solo series (His world is big enough for it) and he can keep getting bigger.

We just need that guy who is a Priest/Hudlin/Mcduffie Bp fan who can channel that powerful BP we need with a stellar artist to realize the greatness and make the comics catch up to the other mediums in terms of how to treat T'Challa. frankly im am  cautiously optimistic with this evans guy and i hope he can produce a solid successful BP run that can potentially maybe turn into an ongoing where we get the REAL T'Challa


Its messed up to say this but sometimes I wonder how much better off T'Challa would have been if Hudlin had just continued writing him in his implied hoe-phase (promiscious/harems/not concerned with romance) instead of the marriage route.  Even though it was very brief, it essentially was laying the groundwork for T'Chadwick.

And Hudlin would've got breh's numbers up lol.  And given Coogler a lot of stuff to work with.



I absolutely agree that T'Challa MOST DEFINITELY needs to be the number 1 Hottest Bachelor in 616. James Bondx100. In my fanfic? T'Challa has to deal with...among other things...the complex multilayered machinations and romantic attentions of Hela, Selene The Black Queen of the Hellfire Club, Moondragon, Red She-Hulk, Green She-Hulk, and Princess Zanda.

Black Widow tried to hit that, too. Several times. So did Tigra, Elektra, Captain Marvel, Rogue, Magik, Firestorm, Silver Sable, The Asgardian Enchantress, Alejandra Jones the female Ghost Rider, Janet van Dyne The Wasp, Mockingbird, and pretty much every other lady. Including Shanna of the jungle, Satanna, Valkyrie, Akivasha The Vampire Princess [ daughter of Akasha, Queen of The Damned, Mother of All Vampires ], Dreamqueen the daughter of the demoness Zhilla Char from being raped by Nightmare, and the goddess Artemis.

Several of the above women succeeded, too. They're in love/lust with T'Challa to this day, as a result. Others came tantalizingly close, thus whetting their appetite even more for the pursuit and conquer of T'Challa.

Spectrum and Susan Storm would both hit that, if they weren't involved with their current men.

honestly i would more so hint to it like hudlin did when He and Storm were interacting, basically saying that when he was younger, he was definitely getting down, but now that he is older, he isn't just looking for a one night stand. He will go on dates though, have relationships, but is mostly just causal.

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« Reply #1153 on: October 13, 2017, 11:25:06 am »
BTW, you don't need the inhumans to give a love interest powers.

In addition to whatever sorcery is out there ala tetu, or whatever other gods are messing around with stuff

you can easily have someone develop powers via the vibranium mound.

Yea, the mythos have their own gods and sorcery.  A Wakandan love interest should be empowered by a Wakandan god.  Or God forbid T'Challa gets to meet a Nigerian, Eritrean or some other African woman in the continent he was born in lol.  And god forbid they have super powers too, by Afrikan gods


Yes, I thought of all that stuff...and was going back and forth with it. There's some really great ground that should be covered and filled in because it's vital to world building. Whether or not these powerful women become romantically linked with T'Challa...they should be there. Period. Expressing the massive reach, diversity, etc of Afrika. Setting up incredible stories that affect Wakanda, because their decisions affect Afrika and the Diaspora.  Nkisi warrior princess avatars. The Rain Queens being there, for real. Straight from Afrikan legend. The real Orisha showing up, with say...the avatar of Osun being on deck. That would be very difficult for T'Challa to resist.

I already rewrote and amped Princess Zanda. As I have been saying for years, there is stupid much potential there. I mean, if Zanda is Princess...who's the Queen and King? Why has T'Challa and T'Chaka and N'yami let Narobia continue to exist at all? Same with Mohannda. These countries/Kingdoms/whatevers have aggressed upon Wakanda. That means your country gotta go bye-bye, cuz Wakanda don't play that.

Also? How would T'Challa react to WOMEN aggressing upon him? Remember, R to the H had T'Challa famously say that he DOESN'T fight women. That was one of the very very few things that rubbed me wrong about CJP BP. CJP BP is the dopest most royal most ruthless most manipulative shrewdest BP ever. But he not only fought with The Deadly Nightshade, he allowed his arrogance to cause him to LOSE to her.

Hell naw.

The DM would probably kill Nightshade off top. Just because she ran up on His Royal Pantherness.

T'Challa wouldn't even condescend to fight Nightshade. I mean, seriously...when was the last time that you saw Captain America get beat by a woman in a fight? Answer: MOONDRAGON. 30 or so years ago. That's about it. And T'Challa? Got the brains, skills, tech, lineage, and resources that Steve literally couldn't imagine.

A villain or villainess...or new female ally...whose power came from The Vibranium Mound? Sensible, but...again, this character would do WHAT for T'Challa that nobody else can do? Exactly what can she tell her King, her Lord of the Wakandas, that he doesn't already know?

I keep coming back to the REAL Ororo as the REAL match for T'Challa. R to the H had it right, yall.

I agree.  I actually like the potential of Princess Zanda more than I do Monica.  I'd like an expansion of Afrika past just Wakanda and the angry roided gorilla tribe. I think Zanda provides an opportunity to open that up more and a chance to revamp that character to be a bit more fancy.  She's someone i'd like to see enhanced/revamped power-wise by her own country's deities.  She's someone i'd like to see be a dime piece who is still a major frenemy of T'Challa but is annoyed that he doesn't fawn over her like all other men do and lowkey tries not to fawn over him. 
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« Reply #1154 on: October 13, 2017, 11:30:34 am »
BTW, you don't need the inhumans to give a love interest powers.

In addition to whatever sorcery is out there ala tetu, or whatever other gods are messing around with stuff

you can easily have someone develop powers via the vibranium mound.

Yea, the mythos have their own gods and sorcery.  A Wakandan love interest should be empowered by a Wakandan god.  Or God forbid T'Challa gets to meet a Nigerian, Eritrean or some other African woman in the continent he was born in lol.  And god forbid they have super powers too, by Afrikan gods


Yes, I thought of all that stuff...and was going back and forth with it. There's some really great ground that should be covered and filled in because it's vital to world building. Whether or not these powerful women become romantically linked with T'Challa...they should be there. Period. Expressing the massive reach, diversity, etc of Afrika. Setting up incredible stories that affect Wakanda, because their decisions affect Afrika and the Diaspora.  Nkisi warrior princess avatars. The Rain Queens being there, for real. Straight from Afrikan legend. The real Orisha showing up, with say...the avatar of Osun being on deck. That would be very difficult for T'Challa to resist.

I already rewrote and amped Princess Zanda. As I have been saying for years, there is stupid much potential there. I mean, if Zanda is Princess...who's the Queen and King? Why has T'Challa and T'Chaka and N'yami let Narobia continue to exist at all? Same with Mohannda. These countries/Kingdoms/whatevers have aggressed upon Wakanda. That means your country gotta go bye-bye, cuz Wakanda don't play that.

Also? How would T'Challa react to WOMEN aggressing upon him? Remember, R to the H had T'Challa famously say that he DOESN'T fight women. That was one of the very very few things that rubbed me wrong about CJP BP. CJP BP is the dopest most royal most ruthless most manipulative shrewdest BP ever. But he not only fought with The Deadly Nightshade, he allowed his arrogance to cause him to LOSE to her.

Hell naw.

The DM would probably kill Nightshade off top. Just because she ran up on His Royal Pantherness.

T'Challa wouldn't even condescend to fight Nightshade. I mean, seriously...when was the last time that you saw Captain America get beat by a woman in a fight? Answer: MOONDRAGON. 30 or so years ago. That's about it. And T'Challa? Got the brains, skills, tech, lineage, and resources that Steve literally couldn't imagine.

A villain or villainess...or new female ally...whose power came from The Vibranium Mound? Sensible, but...again, this character would do WHAT for T'Challa that nobody else can do? Exactly what can she tell her King, her Lord of the Wakandas, that he doesn't already know?

I keep coming back to the REAL Ororo as the REAL match for T'Challa. R to the H had it right, yall.

I agree.  I actually like the potential of Princess Zanda more than I do Monica.  I'd like an expansion of Afrika past just Wakanda and the angry roided gorilla tribe. I think Zanda provides an opportunity to open that up more and a chance to revamp that character to be a bit more fancy.  She's someone i'd like to see enhanced/revamped power-wise by her own country's deities.  She's someone i'd like to see be a dime piece who is still a major frenemy of T'Challa but is annoyed that he doesn't fawn over her like all other men do and lowkey tries not to fawn over him. 

Every time I see that character.. I think Jyll Scott & a better looking Afrikan version of Big Barda.. a lot of good can be done with her..
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