BP710:THE PROTOCOLS

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Very good. 

Regardless of any of my criticism as I will always offer any feedback should you require it, you are well on your way to becoming a great writer.   

So, when are you gonna come out with some real stuff for us to read?

Thank you  Brother Battle. It is essential for writers, especially novice ones like myself, to receive evaluations, appraisals of their work.

As a matter of fact I've actually started outlining an original story. Once I finish tidying up BP710...

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I will admit, I was confused the First time around reading this. I think part of what threw me off was the part "He could of flown, he could of chosen any Wakandan aircraft"

As well as reading too fast the first time as well. When slowing down and reading it again it makes sense, but even still it's a very well out together read. The details, the dialogue, the inner feelings it's very well done. I was able to paint a very good mental picture of the scene in my head.

This is one hell of a chapter. I like the shift in tone, I wasn't the biggest fan of McGregor but I admit he had some beautiful poetics and could get you wrapped up in the moment. I look forward to the next chapter. And I also look forward to the day we see these great visuals your describing

Much gratitude and many thanks Brother Ezyo. I was trying to leave clues so when one goes over the details after reaching the end, one could see it was all staring them right in the face the whole time. Painting a picture for the minds eye was exactly what I was attempting to do.

Man, if I could find someone to collaborate with, we may Coates a run for his money. Again sincere appreciation for your words fam.

[Ture]

>>>Ture


Also remember, consider your audience.

Comicbook writing is a compromise of sequential art, popular culture & serial storytelling.  Comicbook writing is a little bit of everything for almost every age group who are passionate enthusiasts of the medium.

Mario Puzo (writer of 'The Godfather') tried to write for MARVEL and failed.

Why?   Because he couldn't conform to the comicbook format and audience at the time.  He needed another writer's platform to present his ideas.
Mr. Puzo needed a platform like Hollywood.

The comicbook format in the 1960s & 1970s is VERY different from today. 

In my opinion, the comicbook format is very, very simplified, today.  Similar to a storyboarding & screenplay writing.  Mr. Puzo would've fared much better in this modern format.



My point is to not confuse your readers but to cleverly draw them in without alienating them.

Very well stated. I will keep in mind what you shared.

[Ezyo]

I will admit, I was confused the First time around reading this. I think part of what threw me off was the part "He could of flown, he could of chosen any Wakandan aircraft"

As well as reading too fast the first time as well. When slowing down and reading it again it makes sense, but even still it's a very well out together read. The details, the dialogue, the inner feelings it's very well done. I was able to paint a very good mental picture of the scene in my head.

This is one hell of a chapter. I like the shift in tone, I wasn't the biggest fan of McGregor but I admit he had some beautiful poetics and could get you wrapped up in the moment. I look forward to the next chapter. And I also look forward to the day we see these great visuals your describing

Much gratitude and many thanks Brother Ezyo. I was trying to leave clues so when one goes over the details after reaching the end, one could see it was all staring them right in the face the whole time. Painting a picture for the minds eye was exactly what I was attempting to do.

Man, if I could find someone to collaborate with, we may Coates a run for his money. Again sincere appreciation for your words fam.

Weren't you working with Apex a while back? Or did time constraints become an issue?

[Ture]

I will admit, I was confused the First time around reading this. I think part of what threw me off was the part "He could of flown, he could of chosen any Wakandan aircraft"

As well as reading too fast the first time as well. When slowing down and reading it again it makes sense, but even still it's a very well out together read. The details, the dialogue, the inner feelings it's very well done. I was able to paint a very good mental picture of the scene in my head.

This is one hell of a chapter. I like the shift in tone, I wasn't the biggest fan of McGregor but I admit he had some beautiful poetics and could get you wrapped up in the moment. I look forward to the next chapter. And I also look forward to the day we see these great visuals your describing

Much gratitude and many thanks Brother Ezyo. I was trying to leave clues so when one goes over the details after reaching the end, one could see it was all staring them right in the face the whole time. Painting a picture for the minds eye was exactly what I was attempting to do.

Man, if I could find someone to collaborate with, we may Coates a run for his money. Again sincere appreciation for your words fam.

Weren't you working with Apex a while back? Or did time constraints become an issue?

Yes,I was. I'm not sure about time constraints but other factors were a concern. Apex would be better suited to explain such matters Ezyo.

[Ezyo]

I see. A shame. Of i had the time,and knew how to draw in comic form rather then single drawings of characters I would love to illustrate some of this stuf, even if it was just a mini 10-12 pager

[Ture]

I see. A shame. Of i had the time,and knew how to draw in comic form rather then single drawings of characters I would love to illustrate some of this stuf, even if it was just a mini 10-12 pager

I see you got a reply from Apexabyss. Interesting though as I see his point, I kind of see myself as complementary to what should be considered logical in story continuity. What say you Ezyo?

[Battle]

I see. A shame. Of i had the time,and knew how to draw in comic form rather then single drawings of characters I would love to illustrate some of this stuf, even if it was just a mini 10-12 pager.

At your skill level, you don't need to complete 10 - 12 pages because that's too far ahead.

If you can draw just 2 panels, that's sufficient.   Just 2 panel story episodes.   

A writer/artist team can pour a tremendous amount of story material into just 2 panels per cycle.

If you can handle 2 panels per cycle comfortably, then you can slowly handle 1 page which is …6 panels...? Yeah. 6 panels per page.
Writing comics is similar to writing music; completing little melodies that progress to larger symphonies.

[supreme illuminati]

I see. A shame. Of i had the time,and knew how to draw in comic form rather then single drawings of characters I would love to illustrate some of this stuf, even if it was just a mini 10-12 pager.

At your skill level, you don't need to complete 10 - 12 pages because that's too far ahead.

If you can draw just 2 panels, that's sufficient.   Just 2 panel story episodes.   

A writer/artist team can pour a tremendous amount of story material into just 2 panels per cycle.

If you can handle 2 panels per cycle comfortably, then you can slowly handle 1 page which is …6 panels...? Yeah. 6 panels per page.
Writing comics is similar to writing music; completing little melodies that progress to larger symphonies.

Thanks for providing me some of the education I need regarding the artistic side of comic book page etc creation. I had zero idea that there were 6 panels per page, etc. I'm essentially supreme "ignorati" regarding the artistic side and frankly the writing, scripting, etc side of comic book writing.

[Battle]

Thanks for providing me some of the education I need regarding the artistic side of comic book page etc creation. I had zero idea that there were 6 panels per page, etc. I'm essentially supreme "ignorati" regarding the artistic side and frankly the writing, scripting, etc side of comic book writing.

Supreme, check out the older comicbooks from the 1960s,  and especially the 1970s.  If you were to deconstruct those books, you'd see that each page is really just a compilation of an aligned 2 panel story episodes neatly truncated on a single page:


1 page
2 panels
2 panels
2 panels


If you were to read each 2 panel set, they end in a little cliffhanger similar to what you'd see in a newspaper comic strip.  Then you go the next page.

Sometimes, the writer/artist team may just complete a single 1 page (which gets them faster to the end of the book).

Jack Kirby was clever enough to draw 1 single panel between 2 pages. Remembers those?  No one ever (to my knowledge) did that before!

[supreme illuminati]

Thanks for providing me some of the education I need regarding the artistic side of comic book page etc creation. I had zero idea that there were 6 panels per page, etc. I'm essentially supreme "ignorati" regarding the artistic side and frankly the writing, scripting, etc side of comic book writing.

Supreme, check out the older comicbooks from the 1960s,  and especially the 1970s.  If you were to deconstruct those books, you'd see that each page is really just a compilation of an aligned 2 panel story episodes neatly truncated on a single page:


1 page
2 panels
2 panels
2 panels


If you were to read each 2 panel set, they end in a little cliffhanger similar to what you'd see in a newspaper comic strip.  Then you go the next page.

Sometimes, the writer/artist team may just complete a single 1 page (which gets them faster to the end of the book).

Jack Kirby was clever enough to draw 1 single panel between 2 pages. Remembers those?  No one ever (to my knowledge) did that before!

I remember the 1970's comics. They had some panels like this, remember?

[Battle]

I remember the 1970's comics. They had some panels like this, remember?

Romita Sr., correct? 


Yeah... 
That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!  This is just 1 single panel giving the readers the full gamut of mighty MARVEL goodness!

We even know what the hapless web-slinger is thinking: Oh no! Spidey's in trouble! Real trouble from the relentless, cruel & calculating Kraven the Hunter!

What will Spidey do next???

Join with HEF, true believer, and find out next week!!!

'Nuff Said!

[Ezyo]

I see. A shame. Of i had the time,and knew how to draw in comic form rather then single drawings of characters I would love to illustrate some of this stuf, even if it was just a mini 10-12 pager

I see you got a reply from Apexabyss. Interesting though as I see his point, I kind of see myself as complementary to what should be considered logical in story continuity. What say you Ezyo?

Personally i kinda see what he meant about it, however, I would take aspects I didn't like (though j would keep it recent) and fix that, using I story plots and (sparingly) retcons.

For instance the Djalia and 'mother' I would turn mother into a villain, who's been lying to Shuri and Tchalla about Wakandas history. I don't subscribe to the notion that Wakanda is essentially no different then Columbus only worse for being hypocrites.  So she would give Shuri these 'memories' of Wakanda and powers but in reality she is using it to try and take over Shuris body and Tchalla has to find the truth behind what's going on whilst turning mother into a powerful villain, fixing the messed up continuity Coates is injecting, while also giving Wakanda  back it's identity by being special because of their own efforts and Ingenuity, and not from some ambiguous Orishas we have never seen, or done anything yet are claiming glory from Wakanda without a good reason other then to bring T'Challa and Wakanda down

 

[supreme illuminati]

I see. A shame. Of i had the time,and knew how to draw in comic form rather then single drawings of characters I would love to illustrate some of this stuf, even if it was just a mini 10-12 pager

I see you got a reply from Apexabyss. Interesting though as I see his point, I kind of see myself as complementary to what should be considered logical in story continuity. What say you Ezyo?

Personally i kinda see what he meant about it, however, I would take aspects I didn't like (though j would keep it recent) and fix that, using I story plots and (sparingly) retcons.

For instance the Djalia and 'mother' I would turn mother into a villain, who's been lying to Shuri and Tchalla about Wakandas history. I don't subscribe to the notion that Wakanda is essentially no different then Columbus only worse for being hypocrites.  So she would give Shuri these 'memories' of Wakanda and powers but in reality she is using it to try and take over Shuris body and Tchalla has to find the truth behind what's going on whilst turning mother into a powerful villain, fixing the messed up continuity Coates is injecting, while also giving Wakanda  back it's identity by being special because of their own efforts and Ingenuity, and not from some ambiguous Orishas we have never seen, or done anything yet are claiming glory from Wakanda without a good reason other then to bring T'Challa and Wakanda down

 

You see why I like this guy^^^?