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Re: BLACK PANTHER'S AVENGERS - well maybe not?!?
« Reply #1200 on: February 01, 2022, 10:34:49 pm »


The Avengers are caught in the middle of this summers event in which the X-Men square off against the Eternals sans a few missing members... most notably their leader T'Challa the Black Panther.

Well before we jump to conclusion we have this upcoming issue.


(on the cover front and center)

ASSAULT ON AVENGERS MOUNTAIN!

The Avengers’ impenetrable headquarters is under attack, by the most supremely powerful version of Dr. Doom in existence and a wildly murderous Young Thanos, still wet with his mother’s blood. The Black Panther fights to defend the mountain alongside his surprising new teammates, King Namor of Atlantis and Jane Foster, the mighty Valkyrie.

AVENGERS #53
Writer: JASON AARON
Artist/Cover: JAVIER GARRÓN
Release Date: Februray 9, 2022






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Re: BLACK PANTHER'S AVENGERS - Tech-On #6 the finale! T'Challa shines!
« Reply #1201 on: February 03, 2022, 10:39:41 pm »

















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Re: BLACK PANTHER'S AVENGERS - Tech-On #6 the finale! T'Challa shines!
« Reply #1202 on: February 04, 2022, 06:36:39 am »
This was a solid read and good mini overall. I kinda wish they didn't throw Shuri in there because it felt forced, but overall it was a good series and T'Challa did get a couple tech feats and beat skull. So I'm happy

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Re: BLACK PANTHER'S AVENGERS - Tech-On #6 the finale! T'Challa shines!
« Reply #1203 on: February 06, 2022, 12:46:02 pm »








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 "I think my Panther run traumatized a lot of folks with its explicit blackness.  But you can't win unless you commit to something."

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Re: BLACK PANTHER'S AVENGERS - Tech-On #6 the finale! T'Challa shines!
« Reply #1204 on: February 06, 2022, 12:46:47 pm »
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Re: BLACK PANTHER'S AVENGERS - Black Panther Costume Designed To Fight Doctor Doom
« Reply #1205 on: February 07, 2022, 10:10:28 pm »
The Black Panther Costume Designed To Fight Doctor Doom (Spoilers)
Posted on February 7, 2022 by Rich Johnston

Black Panther time! This week sees the release of Avengers #53 by Jason Aaron and Javier Garron. A book that has been throwing the Marvel Universe – and Multiverse – at the Avengers, who are throwing every aspect of the Avengers back, an infinite variety of Avengers across time, space and reality in a battle against the longest of long games being played by Mephisto – all of him.



But now as Black Panther of Wakanda faces off against – or alongside – Namor, The Sub Mariner, this week's Avengers #53 also gives Black Panther a new look – and a new name – for fighting against Doctor Doom. Famed for opposing the Fantastic Four, this Doctor Doom is from a different dimension where he gained the powers of Doctor Strange, as Sorcerer Supreme, known as Doom Supreme. And still wearing the mystic armour that the 616 version of Doom gained through the Haazareth Three, after he sacrificed the woman he loved to use her skin as his new armour, along with magical powers. But Black Panther is ready for this Doctor Doom with a brand new look and a brand new name.



The Red Panther, wearing a costume created to fight magical and mystical opponents. Dambe is a martial art of the Hausa people from Nigeria that often results in serious bodily injuries such as broken jaws and ribs. And those don't use blessed vibranium. T'Challa was made king of the dead not too long ago in the Wakandan Necropolis. And the Orisha were the gods of Wakanda, and T'Challa appears to have weaponised their blood. I wonder if the MCU is taking notes?

AVENGERS #53
MARVEL COMICS
DEC211010
(W) Jason Aaron (A/CA) Garron, Javier
ASSAULT ON AVENGERS MOUNTAIN! The Avengers' impenetrable headquarters is under attack, by the most supremely powerful version of Dr. Doom in existence and a wildly murderous Young Thanos, still wet with his mother's blood. The Black Panther fights to defend the mountain alongside his surprising new teammates, King Namor of Atlantis and Jane Foster, the mighty Valkyrie. Rated T+In Shops: Feb 09, 2022 SRP: $3.99

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/the-black-panther-costume-designed-to-fight-doctor-doom-spoilers/

Right now, I'm taking this at face value. No expectations no disappointments. Aaron's Avenger has had some good T'Challa but we'll see if he keeps being good, as a battle with Doom will say it all. 




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These upgrades sound like something the Supreme Illuminati would conjure up. They had better payoff for the Red Panther, just sayin'.



Oh yea, payback has arrived Red Lion.
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Well... let me put this way, there was little more than  this to see.



One or two more punches and an evacuation command. So much for the Red Panther. Once again nothing but stalled potential.
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Well... let me put this way, there was little more than  this to see.



One or two more punches and an evacuation command. So much for the Red Panther. Once again nothing but stalled potential.




I absolutely loved the breakdown. I haven't bought the book yet, because I wanted to see the reviews first...and I'm still going to buy the book in order to give the brutha a chance to grow and write our real BP. But like I said earlier? That breakdown of what "The Red Panther" was wearing is something that I loved. You all know that my family trains in a modified version of Dambe as part of the Kipura from Kongo which made the travel with [ all of us of Alkebulan miscalled African ] blood on that boat ride to European hell.  So...seeing the Dambe cords just was beautiful. My own ideas I haven't shared, but one of them DID include the Dambe cords...and other dope things...in my unique vision of what I guess can be called SIBP...Supreme Illuminati BP. I definitely liked the stones because in my fanfic I referred to them as duara za fuwele za Yewa [ "the crystalline spheres of Yewa"; Yewa is a powerful, mysterious, beautiful and scarifying Orisha who legend says lives in, near, and around cemetaries. Also known as a very powerful strong and courageous warrior spirit spanning real and metaphorical Rivers, Yewa is known above all for being extremely strict and wise https://ashepamicuba.com/en/yewa/  ]. The Duara Za Yewa were set in the same link and with the same circlet that held the Kimoyo beads.

All that "Necropolis" stuff needs to be tossed. Immediately. Wakandans don't use Outworlder language for anything in the continent; especially anything Wakandan.

I definitely liked the creative notion of having an armor forged of "Metallicized Orisha-blood". That is SOOO DOPE!! Never thought of anything like it...

...probably because I really. Really. Really don't think that T'Challa really needs "armors". I think that too many people are treading on Iron Man's thing, and not taking the time to develop unique expressions for BP himself. And build on stuff we already have in canon. Remember Maberry's sigils that were put on T'Challa's flesh? SIBP has that still. The "usandihi wa akiliteknoka"..."mind-techno-spirit script/runes/sigils"...would suffice for all of that...while adding to the unique lore of BP and NOT trampling on the schtick of other people's "thing". And keeping T'Challa as MORE OF A TECH GUY, A GADGET GUY, THAN A SORCERER [ which is true to CJP BP and Stan Lee BP ].  T'Challa used this vs Saralynth the Cruel in my fanfic.


T'Challa and the BPs would have had this kind of tech literally hundreds of millennia before Doom was born. Doom is definitely NOT the first magic-tech wielder that Wakanda has faced. Wakanda has faced cosmic precursors of The Empirikul long before there was an "Empirikul". In fact? Some alien species and civilizations could plausibly look upon Wakanda [ at various times during its existence ] as a potential Empirikul like threat itself.


I definitely like much of what I see in the pic. But the big question, and the deciding matter, is this:

DID T'CHALLA BEAT DOOM DOWN?

If he didn't? Dollars to donuts it's because Marvel Editorial isn't having Doom gettin beatdown by T'Challa.
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These upgrades sound like something the Supreme Illuminati would conjure up. They had better payoff for the Red Panther, just sayin'.



Oh yea, payback has arrived Red Lion.




My cellphone completely missed this post. Thanks for the shoutout, Brother Ture!! I do see some definite similarities in the ideas that this panel flexed and what I would have come up with.

I also just learned that JASON AARON was the one who put the upgrades on T'Challa. Question: Why is Jason Aaron writing circles around every scribe entrusted with Black Panther's main book, since the departure of R to the H?

I betchoo. Dollars to donuts. REDJACK would NOT get outwritten by Jason Aaron. And that's no disrespect to Aaron because he's one of exactly 3 White authors I would trust to write BP. Aaron is dope. He completely overcame my deep reservations regarding him via his explanations of SEE WAKANDA AND DIE and how he couldn't see how Wakanda could beat The Skrulls. Jason Aaron is dope. Really dope.

But. REDJACK? Is most definitely the best choice if you're not going to go with the already proven BP Gods: CJP and R to the H.
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I’ve found that Aaron approaches T’Challa with an intelligence and deference that has been sorely lacking in the main BP title  since RH. Certainly more than Coates who’s disdain and lack of imagination rivals that which Roy Thomas displayed, IMO.

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I’ve found that Aaron approaches T’Challa with an intelligence and deference that has been sorely lacking in the main BP title  since RH. Certainly more than Coates who’s disdain and lack of imagination rivals that which Roy Thomas displayed, IMO.

Peace,

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COSIGN!! I at first had my serious doubts about Aaron...especially since he said that he couldn't see how Wakanda could beat The Skrulls in SWAD, so that's how he thought of the plan to get The Skrulls and The Wakandans to fall into hand to hand combat with ancient weapons, non super tech...but post-AvX? Imo AARON has pretty much decided to write T'Challa as his very own Batman. In so doing? He's gotten behind the character and really seems to like T'Challa...

...and BLADE.

But he writes T'Challa as a brutha who has no concept of his Blackness, and doesn't even remotely address it. That? Is how you know a White guy's writing him.
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Re: BLACK PANTHER'S AVENGERS #54 Red Panther gets to flex... a little.
« Reply #1212 on: March 16, 2022, 11:08:55 pm »






Aside from about six more small panels and team shots, this is about it for the Red Panther. Again the letdown is something new that the Black Panther has doesn't get the opportunity to live up to its potential.



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Re: BLACK PANTHER'S AVENGERS #54 Red Panther gets to flex... a little.
« Reply #1213 on: March 26, 2022, 08:40:36 pm »






Aside from about six more small panels and team shots, this is about it for the Red Panther. Again the letdown is something new that the Black Panther has doesn't get the opportunity to live up to its potential.



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Why is he defecating on BP...or Red Panther aka RP...right after I gave him props for doing BP right? Makes a brutha want to keep his mouth shut, lol
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I’ve found that Aaron approaches T’Challa with an intelligence and deference that has been sorely lacking in the main BP title  since RH. Certainly more than Coates who’s disdain and lack of imagination rivals that which Roy Thomas displayed, IMO.

Peace,

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I would have unreservedly cosigned this very sensible and largely true sentiment above...

...if not for The Red Panther missteps. I hope I'm wrong, but the dregs and ghosts of an all too familiar: "Oh no, they're about to do that brutha wrong AGAIN!" feeling I had from the 1970's til CRY THE ACCURSED COUNTRY and again nonstop until MARVEL KNIGHTS intro'd CJP BP is starting to awaken the shades of echoes within me...
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