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Re: Get Out (and see this movie)
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2017, 06:36:51 pm »
Get Out was revolutionary because it forced you to face things as a Black person you never really noticed you were afraid of and gave voice to them. Things like that uncomfortable feeling you get when you're the only one in a sea of white folks, the responsibility to your race that entails and the dread at having to be the sole representative for your culture. Deep stuff like that but then simple things too, like how rural areas remind you of slavery and lynchings and the disorientation you feel from the lack of urban touchstones that give you comfort. Then there's the annoying task of having to decipher the hidden meanings behind the seemingly innocuous statements made to you for the racism that lies underneath. Are you crazy? Are you being too sensitive, or is this motherf#@%er really trying to come for you?

Im never going to see this movie because I don't like horror movies so i just wanted to see waht it was abouit

but holy sh*t, this is the realest paragraph I've seen in a long time lol.

I am biracial and NEVER experienced this with the white half of my family. Ever. I can't remember a single comment my whole life that made me pause and go, "wait a minute." but, I may have gotten lucky that they (at least the ones I was around often) were left leaning despite mostly being from tiny towns.

But on my wifes side (she is white)... this hits 100% home. Throughout school, whether undergrad or chiro... same thing. I felt like every moment I was with them, I was constantly being judged as, "so how black are you?"

(whats weird is I feel the same way surrounded by all black people with the same feeling... "how black are you")

Hell, I am from a medium sized town but up north. When I moved down to the "South..." just the sight of plantations and cotton fields made me feel uneasy

The people who got Anne Frank
They had no majority
Just a plurality
The Horror
Of it all

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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2017, 05:44:27 pm »
Thank bruh, I'm glad that resonated with you.  I copied and pasted it on facebook and got crickets. lol

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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2017, 05:25:03 pm »
Took me so doggone long to finally see the movie, but even with all the hype, it still lives up to the buzz.

Quite frankly, GET OUT is a revolutionary masterpiece.  And the fact that has the reviews and the box office to back it up says so much about how good the movie is and how far our country has come. 

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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2017, 05:15:45 am »
While I do agree that the film is revolutionary, I don't think its a gauge of how far we've come. Heck, when you look back at the original Night of the Living Dead, with its black protagonist, that was a major step forward, but can we say that society stepped as majorly as that film did?

For me, it depends on what different groups of people are seeing when they see the film. Are they seeing themselves? Are they inspired to go out and learn the history and the persisting issues that the film addresses? Or do they see the film as a release valve for their own anxieties and frustrations, some about Trump, and the movie as a symbol of the amorphous "Resistance" that is about style as much as substance? Do they focus on the comedy of Rod's character and not exactly what he was saying? Or do they see it merely as a good movie or funny movie and that's it? The horror-comedy format made the film accessible but at the same time it also might be not taken as seriously as say The Birth of a Nation or Malcolm X. And I can't help but look at Get Out's success in light of how Nate Parker's film has all but been erased from the memory of Hollywood. Rotten Tomatoes wouldn't even put a certified fresh sticker on the man's DVDs/Blu-Rays. I chalk up Get Out's success to it being a good movie, but also to whites' comfort with Jordan Peele. They likely weren't expecting a film like that from him. I know I wasn't. And can whites merely write off the white characters in the films as aberrations, which is something whites have shown a great ability to do for a long time. That various white malefactors are not symptomatic of their entire race or their cultures (i.e. all those white serial killers and mass shooters) unlike black criminals who are often portrayed as representing cultural/racial traits endemic to black people.

I see it as Get Out communicating two things to blacks and whites and arguably other people of color who would be attuned to feeling like an outsider. Though it should be noted that Peele did include a person of color amid those who were bidding on Chris. Now, I don't see it as revolutionary to acknowledge that blacks have been treated bad in the past and that are being treated bad now. It can be revelatory for some but not revolutionary if you see it and then just go about your business and not figure out how can you be a part of changing it.

So in "short", I'm not jumping the gun on this film's power to effect social change. Hopefully it can get some self-reflection and conversations going though.

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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2017, 06:22:35 am »
While I do agree that the film is revolutionary, I don't think its a gauge of how far we've come. Heck, when you look back at the original Night of the Living Dead, with its black protagonist, that was a major step forward, but can we say that society stepped as majorly as that film did?

For me, it depends on what different groups of people are seeing when they see the film. Are they seeing themselves? Are they inspired to go out and learn the history and the persisting issues that the film addresses? Or do they see the film as a release valve for their own anxieties and frustrations, some about Trump, and the movie as a symbol of the amorphous "Resistance" that is about style as much as substance? Do they focus on the comedy of Rod's character and not exactly what he was saying? Or do they see it merely as a good movie or funny movie and that's it? The horror-comedy format made the film accessible but at the same time it also might be not taken as seriously as say The Birth of a Nation or Malcolm X. And I can't help but look at Get Out's success in light of how Nate Parker's film has all but been erased from the memory of Hollywood. Rotten Tomatoes wouldn't even put a certified fresh sticker on the man's DVDs/Blu-Rays. I chalk up Get Out's success to it being a good movie, but also to whites' comfort with Jordan Peele. They likely weren't expecting a film like that from him. I know I wasn't. And can whites merely write off the white characters in the films as aberrations, which is something whites have shown a great ability to do for a long time. That various white malefactors are not symptomatic of their entire race or their cultures (i.e. all those white serial killers and mass shooters) unlike black criminals who are often portrayed as representing cultural/racial traits endemic to black people.

I see it as Get Out communicating two things to blacks and whites and arguably other people of color who would be attuned to feeling like an outsider. Though it should be noted that Peele did include a person of color amid those who were bidding on Chris. Now, I don't see it as revolutionary to acknowledge that blacks have been treated bad in the past and that are being treated bad now. It can be revelatory for some but not revolutionary if you see it and then just go about your business and not figure out how can you be a part of changing it.

So in "short", I'm not jumping the gun on this film's power to effect social change. Hopefully it can get some self-reflection and conversations going though.

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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2017, 09:42:42 am »
I think reaction to a film is not changing society, but is a measure of where attitudes are.  So yes, the reaction to the end of NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD did reflect a positive change  And the reaction to the themes and ending of GET OUT do the same.  It's also a tribute to the filmmaking that he takes ideas that seems too radical for mainstream movies and making them pop accessible. 

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« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2017, 11:51:09 am »
I agree that Peele did a great job in making these ideas pop accessible. I am still in awe of how he crafted a black horror film that had so many layers and resonated so well with a broad audience.

Though I still am skeptical of the idea that its a measure of where societal attitudes are and if that will ultimately be a positive thing. I guess it depends on what one means by positive.

Get Out could be a one and done for Hollywood. So far I haven't even heard of another project for Peele yet. When Split was a big hit I was hearing stuff about M. Night moving forward with another project. I'm not sure if Hollywood knows what to do with Peele or the ideas he expressed and that connected with so many people in Get Out. I think greed will war with their ideology and I personally think that ideology will win out ultimately. That being said, maybe Peele did crack open the door just a little more that you might see Hollywood taking a bit more chances when it comes to telling different kinds of stories about race, though there is no evidence so far that we've seen them rushing to green light films like Get Out for mainstream consumption. I'm cynical about Hollywood putting more films like Get Out out there, but I'll put it out there as a potential positive outcome of the film's success.

I also think it can be positive if black film goers in particular study the film and decode the symbolism, and also for future black writers, filmmakers, or storytellers of whatever kind who might take inspiration from what Peele did. As for whites or non-blacks, I don't know if it messages mean much. Get Out was a well written, well acted, and well directed story. One of the best horror films this year certainly and of the decade period. It's a film that I think will go down as one of the best horror films of the 21st century. So people might just give it that and move on.


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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2017, 10:01:26 pm »
Peele has made one of the most profitable films of the decade.  He'll be making movies for a while.

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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2017, 01:13:16 am »
I hope so if he can make them with the same level of thought as he did with Get Out. I was looking at a Forbes article and Get Out is now the third highest grossing R-rated film of all time, behind The Exorcist and Hannibal. And that's freaking awesome and amazing. That Get Out is right up there with the iconic The Exorcist. Who knew that Hannibal made so much?

Though we'll see with Peele's career in the director's chair. I still think that racial barrier is there. F. Gary Gray has been in the game for a long time and I don't think Hollywood has celebrated his record, though he now gets a chance to have another 100 million plus film with Fate of the Furious. Tim Story puts in good work but he's not celebrated. Antoine Fuqua perhaps is more celebrated and he's steady working but they aren't giving Fuqua Godzilla or King Kong movies. But to be fair, he has gotten The Magnificent Seven and that King Arthur movie from back in the day. And Ava DuVernay, Ryan Coogler, and the other younger directors coming up are producing well crafted films or works but it remains to be seen how the Hollywood system will reward them for their talents.

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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2017, 11:56:40 am »

"Same level of thought"...why wouldn't he?  He's been a consistently brilliant artist for some time now.

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« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2017, 02:09:29 pm »
I haven't watched Peele's comedy show so I can't speak on his brilliance in that arena. But I think there might be roadblocks because the Hollywood system doesn't want to produce anything that makes people question the prevailing racial hierarchy. Most Hollywood productions reinforce that hierarchy in some form or fashion. Personally I think they weren't expecting a film from Peele to be as subversive as Get Out turned out to be.

I haven't watched Peele's comedy because I've been leery of him and Key. I suspected that their "comedy" would consist of poking fun at black people and black culture for white peoples' expense. So I never watched his show and I skipped Keanu as well. I'm a horror fan and I had read that Peele was into horror and so I decided to give Get Out a chance and I was very pleasantly surprised.

Beyond that, I think there are examples of filmmakers who might make a thought provoking film or something affecting in some way that gets them notice but then are run through that Hollywood machine and wind up making Pablum. If we see Peele starting to talk about moving 'beyond' race that would be a code word for me that he's already along the path to banality. And that's not a completely horrible thing. He can still put out entertaining works, still develop his craft, still-hopefully-hire black actors, put on black people behind the camera as well-and that's all to the good. But I don't see there being too many more Get Outs, films told from such a uniquely black experience and that rooted the film in that experience and history in a way that wasn't demeaning, that were looking squarely and dead-eyed at white racism, from Peele or anyone else coming through the Hollywood system.

At best we might get race 'neutral' and muddled social commentary like in the recent The Belko Experiment or even the not fully expressed social commentary in A Cure for Wellness. Soft critiques that were very generalized and didn't have the force and power of what Peele did in Get Out.
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« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2017, 07:22:21 am »
'Get Out' finally got a negative review and it's from exactly who you'd expect

http://mashable.com/2017/02/27/get-out-armond-white/#0d5U40DSlqqz


That guy is a professional contrarian.

Has been as long as I can remember.

He hated Spike before it was cool to hate on Spike.

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« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2017, 01:16:27 pm »
'Get Out' finally got a negative review and it's from exactly who you'd expect

http://mashable.com/2017/02/27/get-out-armond-white/#0d5U40DSlqqz


That guy is a professional contrarian.

Has been as long as I can remember.

He hated Spike before it was cool to hate on Spike.
And that's all he is.  His arguments don't even make internal sense.