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BLADE IS BACK!!!!!!
« on: July 12, 2017, 05:16:03 am »
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Re: BLADE IS BACK!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2017, 06:44:40 am »
I see a thumbnail, but no pic. Might need the link.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2017, 06:46:15 am »
I see a thumbnail, but no pic. Might need the link.

should be fixed

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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2017, 01:17:18 pm »
Blade needs to be unapologetic, and extremely competent at what he does.  At least as competent as Wolverine (Logan) is.  He should be his own leader and bristle at “constantly” taking orders.
No more robot hand.  He grew it back.  Vampirey powers.  Leave it at that.
He should have plenty of weapons to take on various kinds of monsters and supernatural creatures.  He should be the inventor of many of these devices.  He should be very tech-savvy, the most out of this group of adventurers.

He is very much not into tying up creatures and leaving them for the police.  He kills or banishes malevolent entities and that's it.  He has no love for their abettors.  He is the Punisher of the supernatural world.

Blade should be a ladies’ man.  Women should be drawn to him.  His gaze is hypnotic to them.  (Note he wears the sunglasses.)  Blacula 2017.  We never see any kind of interest in women reflected.  Change this.
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2017, 04:28:10 pm »
I'm intrigued but cautious. I didn't care how Gischler handled Blade during that X-Men v. vampires event a few years back. And the artist gave him a crazy haircut. Marvel comics just can't seem to get Blade right despite the major assist the films gave them.

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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2017, 04:35:13 pm »
Blade needs to be unapologetic, and extremely competent at what he does.  At least as competent as Wolverine (Logan) is.  He should be his own leader and bristle at “constantly” taking orders.
No more robot hand.  He grew it back.  Vampirey powers.  Leave it at that.
He should have plenty of weapons to take on various kinds of monsters and supernatural creatures.  He should be the inventor of many of these devices.  He should be very tech-savvy, the most out of this group of adventurers.

He is very much not into tying up creatures and leaving them for the police.  He kills or banishes malevolent entities and that's it.  He has no love for their abettors.  He is the Punisher of the supernatural world.

Blade should be a ladies’ man.  Women should be drawn to him.  His gaze is hypnotic to them.  (Note he wears the sunglasses.)  Blacula 2017.  We never see any kind of interest in women reflected.  Change this.

I haven't read Blade in depth but he has had some love interests. One was named Saffron Calder in the 70s and more recently when he was in the MI:13 book he began a relationship with the vampire Spitfire (Jacqueline Falsworth). Granted I would like to see him more relationships like you suggest, and the two I know of are proof that someone at Marvel, at some time thought having Blade in a relationship wasn't a bad thing.

I do agree with expanding on Blade, having him take on all kinds of monsters. Vampires might be his specialty but he still could take down all manner of creatures.

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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2017, 05:22:26 pm »
This is a mini i do believe

So 5 issues

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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2017, 05:45:10 pm »
I wonder if Marvel will incorporate Blade's daughter Fallon Grey. There was buzz about it about a year ago but to my knowledge that book with her in it never came out.

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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2017, 06:13:17 pm »
I wonder if Marvel will incorporate Blade's daughter Fallon Grey. There was buzz about it about a year ago but to my knowledge that book with her in it never came out.

It became an issue bc writer was white tgen wtiter decided not to do it

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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2017, 04:11:27 pm »
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Why was that an issue. White people write black characters all the time at Marvel (Bendis, Ewing, Spencer, etc.). Heck, has a black writer besides Hudlin ever written Blade?

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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2017, 04:30:31 pm »
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Why was that an issue. White people write black characters all the time at Marvel (Bendis, Ewing, Spencer, etc.). Heck, has a black writer besides Hudlin ever written Blade?

Hell if i know

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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2017, 11:18:06 pm »
Blade needs to get rid of all of those "The Forgiven'" characters that were introduced a few years ago.  No!  All these anti-hero vampires dilute the concept. Stop it!
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2017, 06:36:19 am »
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Why was that an issue. White people write black characters all the time at Marvel (Bendis, Ewing, Spencer, etc.). Heck, has a black writer besides Hudlin ever written Blade?

Hell if i know

Okay. I was wondering. I had been hearing some news about Fallon Grey and was interested in seeing where it was going to go. And then nothing. And I hadn't heard anything about any grumbling about the writer's race though. I would've liked to have seen what was going to happen. I still hope they do something with the Fallon Grey concept, though not a situation where Blade is punked out and put on the sidelines and it all becomes about Grey. I would like to see a father-daughter team, and better yet, add mom as well. A family of vampire hunters.

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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2017, 06:53:25 am »
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Why was that an issue. White people write black characters all the time at Marvel (Bendis, Ewing, Spencer, etc.). Heck, has a black writer besides Hudlin ever written Blade?

Hell if i know

Okay. I was wondering. I had been hearing some news about Fallon Grey and was interested in seeing where it was going to go. And then nothing. And I hadn't heard anything about any grumbling about the writer's race though. I would've liked to have seen what was going to happen. I still hope they do something with the Fallon Grey concept, though not a situation where Blade is punked out and put on the sidelines and it all becomes about Grey. I would like to see a father-daughter team, and better yet, add mom as well. A family of vampire hunters.

Here is a direct quote from the author

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The short story is, I quit. The long story is when Marvel hired me, I had just written ten years of a horror comic starring a female lead so I seemed like a good fit. So we threw around ideas of doing Blade’s daughter and when they announced it, Marvel was in a weird place because they had announced the hip-hop covers and a lot of people saw ‘Here’s another black lead with an all-white creative team’ and you know it’s valid and definitely the case. After a while, I felt like it was me screwing this up. I couldn’t help but feel like a black woman might write this stuff better than me and saved them from me. In the wake of ‘Black Panther’ launching so well, maybe ‘Blade’ is the book they find new talent on.”


And then a bunch of internet activists applauded the decision, because POC should write POC!

Not paying attention that the only reason the big got green lit because they specifically went to a writer who had TEN YEARS WRITING A HORROR COMIC WITH A FEMALE LEAD.

So... book disappeared, never to be heard from again.

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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2017, 01:56:03 pm »
Thanks for finding this quote. I didn't know it went down like that. I actually think this guy was pretty aware to realize that he perhaps wasn't able to tell this story the way it needed to be told and keep it authentic to a black female's lived experience. His quote also tells me that the series was not really going to be about Blade but about Fallon Grey, using the Blade brand to launch a new character, similar to how Coates's T'Challa was used to promote the Midnight Angels. But since this guy knew how to write comics, unlike Coates, perhaps the sting of that replacement wouldn't have been as egregious.

After decades of white men writing black and other non-white characters, sometimes good and very often badly, I am fine with the idea that non-white people should be writing non-white characters. It doesn't mean that they should only write non-white characters but I do appreciate what for example a black writer can bring to the table. I remember reading the T'Challa and Storm banter under Dwayne McDuffie's pen and it just felt right, or in DC how Eric Wallace used a battle between Vixen and Tattooed Man, the black one, to discuss relations between black men and women. When I read that, without even seeing the writer's face, it just felt black to me. Wallace also had his Mr. Terrific recall the Middle Passage during a mission. I remember reading a comment that slavery had nothing to do with the story or whatever, and I'm assuming this person is not black, because slavery is something blacks might be more prone to draw parallels or comparisons from than whites or other non-blacks, so to me, it felt natural that Mr. Terrific might look at slavery in that moment. That's something a white writer might miss or not even think of in part because of their own biases, obliviousness, and obtuseness. Hudlin also laced his run with stuff and language that a white writer or non-black writer might not have or even heard of or gave much thought too.

White writers, IMO, often too use black characters as mouthpieces to express the writer's ideas about race, i.e. Bendis and Miles Morales. And many on this forum have described in great detail how some white writers or non-black writers undercut black characters, almost on reflex. And I think some white writers will have black characters surrounded by white characters in predominately white environments and involved romantically with white or non-black partners not because that might be organic to the character but because its more comfortable for the writer and his/her perceived audience. They don't do the research or they do it poorly and it still goes through a racial filter that doesn't upset the white writers high opinions of themselves and many other whites when it comes to race.

That doesn't mean that no white writers can write black characters well. I enjoyed, in part, how JMS handled Nighthawk and the Blur in Supreme Power. I also like what I've read of Nick Spencer's Sam Wilson: Captain America. I thought Grant Morrison handled Black Lightning well in Final Crisis. And I liked Judd Winnick's Batwing, even though he had a tendency to throw in every African social ill that pricks the white media's bubble during his run. And if I sat back and thought more about it, I'm sure there are other examples of white writers who have done right by the black characters they wrote. But all too often, there's that undercutting tendency.

It brings to mind the first issue of the book Rough Riders, an American version of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. It's centered around a crime fighting Teddy Roosevelt and a team of American legends. I am a fan of mixing comics and history and the artwork was very good in the first issue. I was digging it until Jack Johnson showed up. I had no problem with Johnson's inclusion but the writer (who is white) made certain to show Roosevelt physically besting Johnson. Now I'm assuming Johnson is supposed to be the muscle on this team, but he wasn't even allowed to have that. Roosevelt (i.e. white guys) had to be the best at everything. That left me wondering what the hell was the purpose of Johnson then if he wasn't even allowed to own the fighting role on the team? I gave away my one issue and never read another. It sucks because the story was good but I really disliked how Johnson was handled in that.

Back to Blade...when it comes to what the writer said, Marvel could've actually listened to him and hired a black female writer. There are black women who do write horror. Tananarive Due is perhaps the best known. Her husband, fellow author Steven Barnes, even has some experience in the comics game. There's also the writer Jemiah Jefferson. That's off the top of my head and I don't have a team of lawyers or scouts or whatever. Marvel could hire someone if they wanted to. Marvel could've taken this issue and turned it to their advantage and made a socially progressive move but they chose not to do go forward. It just goes to show you that Marvel has this conflicted attitude when it comes to Blade. They just seem to want to screw up his success because it's like they can't believe the character fronted a successful movie franchise. He did it despite Marvel, not because of Marvel and in some likely subconscious spitefulness they won't celebrate and build on what the movies did.
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