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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2007, 06:49:04 PM »

The part of the summary where he says “Why didn’t Black Panther and Luke Cage ever talk?” is exactly the point I was making in another thread.  IT would stand to reason that a visible minority, even among super people, would gravitate towards one another.  It just makes sense.  Seems like Reggie's just bringing common sense and good storytelling to the table and it's about damn time.

IAWC22. This quote does belong in the Black super hero team thread. It is what alot of folks have been saying, but a few detractors still have not given a reasonable answer to negate.

A detractor would basically say that Panther is African royalty and wouldn't necessarily gravitate to African Americans.  To be honest I would agree based on past characterizations of T'Challa.  In alot of the old school especially Roy Thomas depictions, he came off as being no different than say, Thor, in terms of personality.  The whole changing his name to Black Leopard for a time so he wouldn't be confused with the Black PAnther PArty.  Also in some cases I can see continental Africans who would want to distance themselves from African Americans.  European imperialism is a bitch.  however T'Challa never having suffered the miseducation of Euopean colonialism would not necessarily fall into that category.  Either way I have to give Claremont props for the Storm/BP backstory as well as having a number of Black people in his book.  For the time there despite their roles and characteristics he often had alot of Black characteristics in the bakcground or in supporting roles (let alone the major role of Storm).  The dance teacher of Kitty Pryde was a significant reoccurring character as well as Misty Knight who was Jean Grey's roommate and police officer.  Luke Cage made a cameo in X-men when Storm went to Harlem to look at her parents old home, even if it was a bit contrived (back then what wasn't contrived?).
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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2007, 10:14:39 PM »

A detractor would basically say that Panther is African royalty and wouldn't necessarily gravitate to African Americans.  To be honest I would agree based on past characterizations of T'Challa.
I understand what you saying here. I see how the detractors can make those claims. But this is a point that has always bothered me when folks say this. Yes, blacks from the continental African Continent have different cultures from African Americans and some come here and attempt to distance themselves from us. Alot of African Americans try to distance themselves from Africa and denounce any ties to it after the slave ships hit these shores. But I know quite a few folks from the continent (Nigeria, Ethiopia, Sierra Leone, South Africa) of which a few are friends and quite a few of them experienced some of the same negative BS that can happen to a person who is black regardless of the country of their birth. Some of these same people have gravitated to African Americans in those times. In fact, that is how I made a few of my friends.

T'Challa was at one time a teacher in Harlem, correct? Wouldn't that time allow him to connect on some level with African Americans? Yes, he is royalty, but being in that situation would make that factor irrelevant wouldn't it?

In alot of the old school especially Roy Thomas depictions, he came off as being no different than say, Thor, in terms of personality.  The whole changing his name to Black Leopard for a time so he wouldn't be confused with the Black PAnther PArty.  Also in some cases I can see continental Africans who would want to distance themselves from African Americans.  European imperialism is a bitch.  however T'Challa never having suffered the miseducation of Euopean colonialism would not necessarily fall into that category.  Either way I have to give Claremont props for the Storm/BP backstory as well as having a number of Black people in his book.  For the time there despite their roles and characteristics he often had alot of Black characteristics in the bakcground or in supporting roles (let alone the major role of Storm).  The dance teacher of Kitty Pryde was a significant reoccurring character as well as Misty Knight who was Jean Grey's roommate and police officer.  Luke Cage made a cameo in X-men when Storm went to Harlem to look at her parents old home, even if it was a bit contrived (back then what wasn't contrived?).

Yeah, I agree with you here. So with just a few events in old Marvel stories we can see that a number of black heroes coming together isn't necessarily something that would be forced. At least not anymore so than any other group that isn't black.
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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2007, 11:02:36 PM »


Yeah, I agree with you here. So with just a few events in old Marvel stories we can see that a number of black heroes coming together isn't necessarily something that would be forced. At least not anymore so than any other group that isn't black.

the "forced" argument is the worst copout only to be used when it suits one's arguments.  Anything involving Black characters is pretty much a stereotype or a copout.  Either we as black people call the writing of a character a stereotype or others call Black characters a stereotype neither of which are necessarily false.  Overall however this just makes the writing of Black characters to seem overall trite and anything that particularly goes against the status quo's conception of a black character (as their word hold more weight) is considered contrived or "forced."  Black heroes meeting up in New Orleans for Katrina = forced.

Northstar being killed and then resurrected by the Hand= not forced? Particularly Elektra and a buch of Ninjas kidnapping his body while in the Xavier schools morgue.  Are you kidding me?

It's a copout for people to use when they don't like something, plain and simple.  It just so happens that anything having to do with Blacks is generally considered forced more often then not.

More than one Black person in a team

FORCED!!!

The two Black people on the team hooking up

FORCED!

Two or more Black heroes on the same panel

FORCED!

Team comprised of all Blacks.

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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2007, 06:52:31 AM »

lol at yaw, preach brother preach Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2007, 10:49:23 AM »

Make it plain, Brother Yaw. Speak the truth!  Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2007, 01:15:20 PM »

IAWY.....100%!
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« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2007, 05:43:47 PM »

I thought BET would release some images and info about what to expect from its new Animation Department? I've checked the net and there wasn't much said about the event what I did find gave no info about what to expect. Was there any info realeased?
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« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2007, 07:03:24 PM »

but that his goal was to stay on Black Panther long enough that it would be hard for any future writers to break up the Storm/Panther marriage.[/size]

That's ironic.  In part two of this interview with Greg Pak, he stated that the wants to do something with Storm after the current team finishes with her.  I guess after the next 7 or 8 years when Reggie decides to turn T'Challa loose, Storm may have to be a packaged deal that includes T'Challa.  I wonder if Pak would be willing to write Panther/Storm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MnA7NFCte8
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« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2007, 07:32:55 PM »

but that his goal was to stay on Black Panther long enough that it would be hard for any future writers to break up the Storm/Panther marriage.[/size]

That's ironic.  In part two of this interview with Greg Pak, he stated that the wants to do something with Storm after the current team finishes with her.  I guess after the next 7 or 8 years when Reggie decides to turn T'Challa loose, Storm may have to be a packaged deal that includes T'Challa.  I wonder if Pak would be willing to write Panther/Storm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MnA7NFCte8

Pak says Storm was one of his favorite characters, not Black Panther. I don't know. The way he said that there were great people working with her now but he wanted a shot at writing her makes me wonder if he would try to break her away from T'Challa and go the route that alot of the detractors of the BP/Storm marriage wanted. I definitely hope Hudlin writes the book long enough to cement the marriage to at least be close to the bond of Reed and Sue is in the MU, but you never know.
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« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2007, 07:38:43 PM »

you guys are way too paranoid Cheesy.  When he says "current team" I'm sure he means Brubaker on Uncanny.  Brubaker will be using Storm in his next arc.  HE couldn't take Storm into space for obvious reasons.  however Storm isn't unattainable except for the bit when she is in the Zombieverse. Grin  I wonder if Zombieverse T'Challa will meet 616 T'Challa?  I wonder if 616 T'Challa will feel sorry for his Zombieverse counterpart because of the loss of Wakanda, limbs and a beautiful wife.  Storm>>that unnamed white girl. Cheesy
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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2007, 08:18:13 AM »

I was lucky enough to get invited to a media reception BET held to premiere their animation block. It was a great night and I felt very privileged to sit there with the real journalists and talk with Reggie, Denys Cowan and Michael Davis. Though Michael kept teasing me for never having gone to San Diego Comic Con despite writing for a website called "ComicBookConventions.com"...

You can read the article I wrote about it here.

Thanks again Reggie!
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« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2007, 08:41:24 AM »

Thanks for the article, Colin.  Those all sound great.  Any word on when they premiere on BET?
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« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2007, 01:25:39 PM »

Stan Lee was at the convention.. anyone get to tell Stan about the cool stuff happening in Panther?  maybe gave him a copy of a TPB?
(it would have been classic had BET gotten to interview him..)
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« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2007, 05:34:57 PM »

you guys are way too paranoid Cheesy.  When he says "current team" I'm sure he means Brubaker on Uncanny.  Brubaker will be using Storm in his next arc.

Hmmm.  Loeb is using Storm in the current Wolverine arc. 

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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2007, 08:11:48 PM »

I was lucky enough to get invited to a media reception BET held to premiere their animation block. It was a great night and I felt very privileged to sit there with the real journalists and talk with Reggie, Denys Cowan and Michael Davis. Though Michael kept teasing me for never having gone to San Diego Comic Con despite writing for a website called "ComicBookConventions.com"...

You can read the article I wrote about it here.

Thanks again Reggie!

Wow Colin, thanks for the kind words!!!  Great to meet you!

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