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John Conyers Retires from Congress
« on: December 05, 2017, 05:10:36 pm »
Let the political free-for-all begin....  Ah, geez....   :-[ :-[

(sidebar: since he has officially retired and not simply "resigned" he is entitled to his pension/benefits package)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/05/john-conyers-retirement-special-election/923752001/

WASHINGTON — The process of filling the seat left open by the retirement of Michigan Democratic Rep. John Conyers could take some time to sort out and cost a good bit of money.

By law, the governor is required to call a special election to select someone to fill out the remainder of the congressman's term, which ends Jan. 3, 2019.

Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder can schedule that election whenever he wishes, though it often comes on the date of the next regularly scheduled election — which, at present, is May 7, 2018, when there will be balloting for local boards and millage rates.


But because it's a House seat, that also means having a primary election first to decide who would run in a general election. That's what happened in 2012, for instance, after former congressman Thad McCotter, a Republican from Livonia, Mich., stepped down in July.

Kerry Bentivolio won a September primary to be the Republican nominee to both fill out McCotter's unexpired term and to take the seat in the next Congress. In the November general election, however, Democrat David Curson won the race to serve out the remaining six weeks of McCotter's term while Bentivolio won to replace McCotter in the next Congress.

So it's possible that a primary could be held in May and then a general election to fill out his term Aug. 7, the date of the next regular election.

The process also means that between now and the special election, there will be no one in Congress representing the district.

A special election isn't cheap: The Secretary of State's Office puts it at about $2,000 per precinct. There are roughly 517 precincts in Conyers' Wayne County district, according to a count by the Detroit Free Press, putting the cost at a little more than $1 million.

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Re: John Conyers Retires from Congress
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2017, 09:31:03 am »
Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder is a Republican and is not going to be in any hurry to have Conyers seat filled.

This is exactly why I questioned the need to call for Conyers resignation.

Politics is a zero sum game and the opposition will support anybody who wasn't busted for a Felony outright as long as that Rep votes down the line Republican.

You want to hold Conyers feet to the fire, fine. Don't shoot your Party in the foot to do it.

All of this was forseeable.

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Re: John Conyers Retires from Congress
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2017, 12:10:27 pm »


Politics is a zero sum game and the opposition will support anybody who wasn't busted for a Felony outright as long as that Rep votes down the line Republican.

You want to hold Conyers feet to the fire, fine. Don't shoot your Party in the foot to do it.

All of this was forseeable.


If any political party has shot themselves in the foot, that would be the republican party.

The way everything is setup, when the 2018 Mid-Term Elections rollover begins, every one who has a vested interest in biff's removal will pile on with impeachment votes.

The day after Mid-Term Elections will position puppetine as if he was Bud Fox from the original motion picture, 'Wall Street' in that scene after he got caught by the Feds.

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Re: John Conyers Retires from Congress
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 12:19:48 pm »


Politics is a zero sum game and the opposition will support anybody who wasn't busted for a Felony outright as long as that Rep votes down the line Republican.

You want to hold Conyers feet to the fire, fine. Don't shoot your Party in the foot to do it.

All of this was forseeable.


If any political party has shot themselves in the foot, that would be the republican party.

The way everything is setup, when the 2018 Mid-Term Elections rollover begins, every one who has a vested interest in biff's removal will pile on with impeachment votes.

The day after Mid-Term Elections will position puppetine as if he was Bud Fox from the original motion picture, 'Wall Street' in that scene after he got caught by the Feds.

i'll believe it when i see it

for instnace, they are still backing a pedophile old man

people have no morals, they don't care abotu anything other than stuff like abortion and gun rights. thats it.

as long as repubs run on abortion and gun rights a few other "key" issues, noting else really matters

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Re: John Conyers Retires from Congress
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 03:14:16 pm »


i'll believe it when i see it

for instnace, they are still backing a pedophile old man

people have no morals, they don't care abotu anything other than stuff like abortion and gun rights. thats it.

as long as repubs run on abortion and gun rights a few other "key" issues, noting else really matters




You'll believe what? when you see it...?   ???

Who's they?

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Re: John Conyers Retires from Congress
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2017, 07:20:39 am »


i'll believe it when i see it

for instnace, they are still backing a pedophile old man

people have no morals, they don't care abotu anything other than stuff like abortion and gun rights. thats it.

as long as repubs run on abortion and gun rights a few other "key" issues, noting else really matters




You'll believe what? when you see it...?   ???

Who's they?

At a guess, MOS doubts that the Dems will take back a significant number of seats in 2018.

How does a known teeny banger even GET to the point where he can run for a Senate seat let along get elected for it and have endorsements on top of it?

But he's Republican, so he gets supported by his party AT ITS VOTERS.

The Repubs could run any f*ck up presenting anything short of Jeffery Dahmer like deviancy and he'd win in a Red state at this point.

Red State Voters can't even pretend that they are voting for decent people anymore (unless "at least he isn't @##$%ing really little kids" is the bar for decency now)


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Re: John Conyers Retires from Congress
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2017, 07:32:17 am »


i'll believe it when i see it

for instnace, they are still backing a pedophile old man

people have no morals, they don't care abotu anything other than stuff like abortion and gun rights. thats it.

as long as repubs run on abortion and gun rights a few other "key" issues, noting else really matters




You'll believe what? when you see it...?   ???

Who's they?

At a guess, MOS doubts that the Dems will take back a significant number of seats in 2018.

How does a known teeny banger even GET to the point where he can run for a Senate seat let along get elected for it and have endorsements on top of it?

But he's Republican, so he gets supported by his party AT ITS VOTERS.

The Repubs could run any f*ck up presenting anything short of Jeffery Dahmer like deviancy and he'd win in a Red state at this point.

Red State Voters can't even pretend that they are voting for decent people anymore (unless "at least he isn't @##$%ing really little kids" is the bar for decency now)

Yep this.

They talk themselves into anything and anyone no matter how despicable because of "supreme court justices!" "abortion!" "gun rights!" and "the other is just as bad!"


I don't have any faith in people anymore. I watched rational, god fearing people talk themselves into voting for the idiot we have in office now. Even to the point they think he is "religious" despite cheating on multiple wives at a minimum. After spending 8 years bashing obama everytime he smiled.

its all over lol

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Re: John Conyers Retires from Congress
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2017, 07:32:53 am »
Al Franken is gone next.

while the pubs are gonna put a pedophile in office

fun


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Re: John Conyers Retires from Congress
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2017, 08:11:26 pm »
And today we have Senator Al Frankin
Sorry but I've liked Al from way back
But 100,000 idiots had to go vote
3rd Party just to make a point

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Re: John Conyers Retires from Congress
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2017, 09:35:13 am »
Al Franken is gone next.

while the pubs are gonna put a pedophile in office

fun

A RACIST Pedophile

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Moore was at a rally in Florence, Ala. One of the few blacks in attendance asked Moore when he thought America was last “great.” In response, Moore said, “I think it was great at the time when families were united—even though we had slavery—they cared for one another. ... Our families were strong, our country had a direction.”

https://www.theroot.com/roy-moore-thinks-america-was-better-when-slavery-was-in-1821105144

I wonder how that Brother processed being told to his face by Moore that he thought things were better during the Slave Days.

Of course, a POC going to a Republican rally in Alabama in itself is kind of asking for it.

He's lucky they didn't decide to hunt his ass for sport.

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Re: John Conyers Retires from Congress
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2017, 07:22:29 am »
Well Vic, you called it-- 11 months with most of Detroit having no congressional representative.  It figures.  Snyder is term-limited, he won't be running again next year.  He campaigned as a moderate, but basically caved to most of the proposals from the very tea-party driven state legislature.  There's a tea-party friendly state attorney general in Bill Schuette who is running for governor-- he's the likely GOP favorite, and I suspect he's probably has an inside track to win.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/12/08/snyder-special-election-next-year-replace-conyers/935485001/


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Washington — Gov. Rick Snyder has set the special election to fill the seat of departed U.S. Rep. John Conyers Jr. to coincide with the regularly scheduled 2018 primary and general elections, in part to keep costs down.

Conyers, a Detroit Democrat who served for nearly 53 years, on Tuesday became the first lawmaker on Capitol Hill to resign amid allegations of sexually harassing several female aides.

The special primary election will be Aug. 7 and the special general election Nov. 6.

That means residents of the 13th District, which covers much of Detroit and parts of Wayne County, will go without a representative in Congress for roughly 11 months.

“Having ample time for candidates to make a decision about running for office and file their paperwork gives people more options as to who will next represent them in Congress,” Snyder said in a statement.

“In order to allow several months for that to take place and to reduce the financial burden on local taxpayers, the primary and general elections will be held when regularly scheduled elections are already occurring.”





The winner of the special election will complete the last two months of Conyers’ two-year term, which runs through Jan. 3, 2019.

The winner of the general election would take office on Jan. 3, 2019, for the start of the 116th Congress.

The same candidates may run for both the special and general elections, but the winners could be two different people — which is what happened after Republican Rep. Thad McCotter resigned in July 2012.

David Curson, a Democrat, won the special election in November 2012 to finish the last two months of McCotter’s term.

But Curson was not a candidate in the general election. Kerry Bentivolio, a Republican, won that race and took office in January 2013 at the start of the new session of Congress.


Jonathan Kinloch, who chairs the Democratic Party in the 13th District, wanted Snyder to set the special election to coincide with the regularly scheduled election dates in August and November, even though it leaves the seat vacant for months.

He said the district offices remain open to serve constituents in the meantime.

“This seat only becomes available once every 50 years,” Kinloch said this week. “We all know that in those special elections that are called outside the normal election cycle that voter turnout is less.”

But some Democrats weren’t happy Friday, including former Michigan Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer, who lashed out at Snyder.

“And @onetoughnerd continues to give the back of his hand to urban areas whether it’s emergency managers, poisoned water, and now being denied representation in Congress for nearly a year,” Brewer tweeted.
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Re: John Conyers Retires from Congress
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2017, 07:54:19 am »
And today we have Senator Al Frankin
Sorry but I've liked Al from way back
But 100,000 idiots had to go vote
3rd Party just to make a point

I have to ask, is voting for the Democrats also not making a point? Or the GOP for that matter? You are voting for people who you think will represent your interests best and/or enact policies or fight for policies that reflect your values or worldview. And sometimes the Democrat or GOP person you vote for loses, is that also a 'wasted' vote?

Just voting Democrat over and over, and 'hoping' that they change their ways (without the threat of losing our votes) has been a losing proposition. I applaud people who vote third party. They might get scorn, derision, or incredulous responses but at least they vote their principles. What principles do either major party hold or are true to today?

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Re: John Conyers Retires from Congress
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2017, 08:30:31 am »
id never fault someone for voting for a candidate they actually like.

now if someone wrote in "michael jackson," well they can go jump off a bridge.

But if more people voted for who they liked vs "the lesser evil." we would have better candidates

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Re: John Conyers Retires from Congress
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2017, 12:41:18 pm »
Apparently avoiding a Justice Department that is actively hostile to civil rights isn't a principal worth upholding.

And avoiding the installment of a punitive immigration Dept wasn't a thought either. Progressives are mostly native born or 3rd gen. Nobody they know is getting deported. Then there is the Supreme Court and I could go on.

But I suspect buyer's remorse wont kick in for that crowd until Net Neutrality dies. That they are gonna notice because it will effect them real quick.