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ALIEN franchise
« on: December 27, 2017, 08:54:44 am »
I saw something about Alien: Covenant on the board, and I thought there had been a thread about Alien: Covenant. But I guess not. Anyways, here is some new potential developments.

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2017/12/23/sir-ridley-scott-thinks-alien-level-fans-star-trek-star-wars/

http://omegaunderground.com/2017/12/14/fox-plans-shoot-ridley-scotts-alien-awakening-next-summer/
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Re: ALIEN franchise
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2017, 04:04:04 am »
I gave up on the series after Prometheus, that was so bad

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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2017, 05:56:21 am »
I never got around to sharing my thoughts on Alien: Covenant it seems. I thought Covenant was better than Prometheus in terms of story and characters. AC felt more like real prequel to Alien than Prometheus did. ACís characters were relatively more intelligent than the ones in Prometheus, which is odd because ACís characters were mostly colonists seeking to establish a new colony while Prometheus was filled with some of the Ďbest of the bestí scientific minds.

AC also delivered more on the horror, with the pretty cool Neomorphs, which are a nice addition to the creature lineup. Also, thereís the cool ďPlanet 4 XenomorphĒ who gets quite a bit of action due to CGI.

While ACís characters were generally better realized than Prometheus, there was still issues with underdevelopment and the stupid decision making that often afflicts horror films. The film touted the female character Daniels as the lead, and while that is technically true, Michael Fassbender (playing two androids) was more central to the story.

I thought AC was a decent entry in the Alien franchise, but Ridley Scott still has problems putting his new ideas about creation and mankind into a cohesive story. AC just muddled the mythology he was building for Prometheus even more. In fact, it chucks a good deal of it away and replaces it with something that is radical to the franchise but didnít make much sense to me.

Both Prometheus and AC are great looking films. I think Prometheus actually looks better and has a larger scope, but AC has a better story (one reminiscent of an early Star Trek: TNG episode), and has the feel of Alien more than Prometheus did.

I almost wish that Scott hadnít tied his Prometheus ideas to Alien (at least at first). Just let him tell this story without the pressure and expectation of it being part of the Alien story, and then in the third film just drop a big twist or reveal on us that it was leading up to Alien. If he had just been allowed to tell his story of the Engineers and loosely tie it to Alien it might have been better. The attempts to fit what he wants to do now with what he did 40 years ago havenít really worked so far.

As for Scott wanting Alien to be as big as Trek or Star Wars, thatís not even going to happen. He should be happy that Alien is as big as it is. When I thought about it, the last two unqualified successes in the franchise were the first two films, over 30 years ago, and yet people have kept coming back to support the franchiseís offerings. I canít think of any major franchise thatís had as poor a track record but as committed a fan base. And while AC had disappointing box office there were still plans-until recent reports-that the studio was going to do a AC sequel.

The nature of the horror genre makes it hard to expand this film without diluting the brand. Itís R-rated horror. You canít sell a lot of toys to kids, you arenít making kid friendly cartoons, most of the humans are killed off each movie, so thatís another thing you canít build on, a welcome return to characters from movie to movie. And in nearly 40 years Sigourney Weaverís Ripley has remained the face of the franchise. There have been some interesting characters, but often they were killed off (like Hicks and Newt) or were just in one film (Call, Johner, and arguably Prometheusís Shaw). Arguably David is second to Ripley as the main character of the prequel films but the mixed reactions to both Prometheus and AC show heís nowhere near as popular a character.

Itís pretty impressive that theyíve had video games, novels, comics like they have, and perhaps Scott should just count it as a victory and move on.

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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2018, 01:34:43 pm »
First Alien vs Predator was the only Aliens I didn't like

But Aliens will always be the best.
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2018, 08:11:51 am »
Actually, the original 'ALIEN' was the best.  :)

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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2018, 12:55:09 pm »
http://geektyrant.com/news/theres-a-new-alien-video-game-be-developed-set-in-the-cinematic-universe

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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2018, 03:22:32 am »
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I read the novel Original Sin that called the Space Jockey a member of the Mala'kak in what was supposed to be a then canon novel. Prometheus overrode it unfortunately. I liked the name Mala'kak. Though simply calling Engineers isn't bad either.

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Sucks that this concept art wasn't used in the film. I'm digging a lot of it.
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Re: ALIEN franchise
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2019, 07:24:15 pm »
Last year I revealed a possible live-action series set in the Alien universe in the very early development stages and could be heading towards a streaming service.


Well, itís been a couple of months and I have some exclusive updates to share.


There isnít just one live-action Alien series in the works, but two of them.

According to a source, one of them is said to have Ridley Scott as an executive producer and is going to be for Hulu.


I would imagine that his production company Scott Free Productions would be involved as theyíve had previous interests in television projects including Ridleyís current project, an android series titled Raised By Wolves for TNT (which is not Alien related and itís another thing entirely) that is filming in Cape Town, South Africa.

Details are scarce at the moment but there might be multiple seasons that could tackle different corners/eras of the franchise, not unlike Noah Hawleyís series Fargo.

In theory, I could see them possibly filling gaps in the franchise or crafting brand new stories to tell within the Alien universe.

It still seems to be the very early days with these projects and I canít exactly speak to what theyíll be about at the moment.

The Disney-Fox merger is a couple of months away but that wouldnít stop from Fox developing their own in-house projects.



Disney CEO Bob Iger has also suggested in an earnings call recently that theyíre open to Fox continuing mature programming/franchises and weíve already seen Marvel Television launch four mature animated shows on Hulu with M.O.D.O.K., Hit-Monkey, Tigra & Dazzler, and Howard The Duck.

There is a very good chance that we could see more mature projects from the Fox side of things take root at Hulu, like this Alien series from Ridley Scott.

After the less than successful box office run of Alien: Covenant it could be enough reason to pivot to television/streaming for the next little while.

When we have more information to share we will certainly update.







Would You Like To Know More?
https://hnentertainment.co/exclusive-two-live-action-alien-series-are-in-the-works-and-ridley-scott-is-producing-one-at-hulu/

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