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Re: Captain Marvel
« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2019, 12:47:06 pm »
I saw it twice, once yesterday, and then earlier today. I thought the film was good, but not great. It's average. I'm very curious to see how it's box office will ultimately end up, because I can't see it reaching a billion. I would be surprised if it overtakes Wonder Woman's box office total. It should do in the upper 700 millions IMO.

What I liked:
-Chemistry between Brie Larson and Samuel L. Jackson. The trailer gave off a kind of buddy cop vibe for the film, and I felt that a lot would ride on how well Fury and Captain Marvel worked together. And I think the chemistry between the two actors was there and helped the film out big time. Jackson was having fun playing a younger Fury (perhaps too much fun) and I think Larson enjoyed her scenes with him. I also think Larson had chemistry with Lashana Lynch and Jude Law.
-The story. I liked how they structured the origin story for Captain Marvel, making it fresher.
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I also liked the twists in the story, going some places I wasn't expecting. Though what this portends for all the Secret Invasion theories I have no clue. I was sort of hoping we would get an adaptation of Secret Invasion, but now I'm not so sure.
-The production values and designs remain top-notch. I thought the Skrull shape-shifting was cool,
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though I didn't buy that they could shift out in the open like they did not too many people were troubled by that.
-The action. While sometimes hard to follow due to where/how they shot the action, there was still some nice action scenes in the film.
-The setting. You can't beat setting a film in the 1980s or 1990s IMO.
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(Though I don't think they made the most of the time period. There could've been a few more jokes based on that, and I also thought the soundtrack could've been better. Though they did throw in some Salt-N-Pepa and TLC in there).

What I didn't like:
-Brie Larson's performance.
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I wasn't sold on her to begin with, and though her Carol Danvers's does have more personality than in the trailers, it felt misapplied at times. I thought they made her quippy right off the bat and it felt like she belonged in a different film. And throughout the film, she came across way too casual to be an alien soldier stranded on Earth, a being unfamiliar with Earth and its customs. Here, I think the MCU formula to put jokes and 'coolness' at the forefront hampered the film and also Larson's performance. When I was watching it the second time I thought she would've made a better Sharon Carter than Captain Marvel.
-Nick Fury.
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I liked that Jackson liked playing a younger Fury. But I didn't care for some of the jokes at his expense, and I also didn't care for how he lost his eye. It felt a bit anticlimactic, but done for another laugh.
-The tone.
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I thought the film was too jokey way too much, and too many people had to be in on the fun, including the Skrull leader.
-The de-aging wasn't as good as some tout. I think both Ant-Man films do it better.
-I was leery of the feminist label for this film going in, and while the feminism is there,
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and sometimes I felt that Danvers treated Fury too high-handed
, it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.

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I'd give it a B+!

I enjoyed it, and I'm glad I didn't know about any super-spoilers before seeing it.

The initial battle was handled very well, I liked the setup of StarForce, and I hope that some of them get to be seen again someday.

It sucks that there is such a glaringly obvious trashing campaign going on, this has become an "epidemic" (and of course last year it was Black Panther), good lord.

The flashbacks during Carole's initial capture were, for me, possibly the most "confusing" but I didn't particularly have trouble keeping up after that.

I would have wanted more hang-out time and general exploration time for Carole and Nick.  Maybe expand the plot's time-frame to her being on Earth several weeks as opposed to a few days (seemingly?)  I know this had to be roughly 2 hours, though.  I had thought that maybe exposing her to her and Maria's karaoke song would help jar her memory, lol.  I had thought they might end up at a blues bar in Louisiana at one point.

Annette Benning is Mar-Vell?  Ah.  Didn't see that coming.  Intriguing gender-swap, and maybe the most "radical" for the MCU, even though the general public has no idea who Mar-Vell originally was, lol.  (Though I can also kind of see some folks being a little confused at the Lawson-image-as-Supreme-Intelligence, since Lawson/Mar-Vell died in t he flashback but was torturing her during the third act).

Was Carole's mother even glimpsed at all?  I forget.  I remember seeing her dad in the flashbacks, though.

I found nothing objectionable about Ms. Larson's performance. I'm not all that familiar with her other movies, though, so the quirks that other folks have focused on are neither here nor there with me.

I did note the "hey why don't you smile?" aside-- I wonder was that done in reshoots?  I remember that micro-controversy on the forums.. lol..

Glad to see a solid portrayal of Maria here as a kind of proto-Monica.  And of course, she lives until the end!! (woo-hoo!)
There's obviously no excuse not to eventually have Monica eventually become (whatever name they choose, my pick is Dr. Spectrum, if they have adult Monica as a scientist before "whatever" gives her powers happens).

The film had a lot more humor than I was expecting, though it didn't come across as campy, fortunately.  I can't help but to think that the Supergirl TV show, Melissa Benoist's performance has had some influence.

Sympathetic skrulls blew my wig back, along with the veiled war refugees metaphor.  The lead guy ended up being fun to watch.
 Interesting, though I suppose there's always room in future movies for some rogue factions to "continue the war" and be traditional villains.  And it never was explicitly revealed just how the homeworld was destroyed.

Ah-- Yon Rogg clearly wasn't killed at the end (fortunately), so I guess the window's open for him to come back in a future adventure.

I was expecting that Fury would get his eye shot by laser-fire, but for the way that they handled it, lol-- oh well-- My guess is if Fury didn't know what a Flerken could do he'd have tried to take a pistol to the thing himself after the scratch.. And of course, where the heck is the thing now, since it became Fury's pet?  Hmm...

I presume part 2 will take place in the present day-- or what if it doesn't, I wonder what villain(s) or threat they could use. Maybe it could be a space adventure, though that would seemingly leave little room for Fury to tag along.

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Re: Captain Marvel
« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2019, 02:28:39 pm »
I liked it. Good action, music and acting. I'd put it towards the upper side of MCU. Around Antman  movies and first Guardian movie.
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Re: Captain Marvel
« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2019, 03:03:39 pm »
Actually liked this movie and despite all the butt hurt comic geeks speaking against this movie most of the people going to movies don't care about the microcosm that is the comic book world with its shrinking audience. 

Brie Larson is an award winning actress and brings her own audience and perspective to the film just like Annette Benning and Samuel Jackson.  The acting from all is good and a stand out is the newcomer who plays a very young Monica Rambeau aka Photon in the 90s!  Think Larson as CM was told to display very little emotion and to use humor throughout the film - probably from the Directors and Feige himself.

Captain Marvel reminded me of her time in Uncanny XMen way back in issues 164 to 166 where she was there during the original Brood saga and they tried to implant a brood egg in her but only she, Storm and Wolverine were powerful enough to kill the embryos.  She became Binary during that storyline and that is similar to the film when she changes to her well known costume and starts to fully use her powers.  Was rooting for Carol like back in the day when Rogue stole her powers and she was trying to come back by joining the XMen!

Movie fits right in with Captain America, Iron Man and Thor - can see this being the next phase of Avengers going into space and encountering new villains.



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Re: Captain Marvel
« Reply #53 on: March 17, 2019, 03:45:17 pm »
Interesting commentary on Monica Rambeau as original Captain Marvel!

https://youtu.be/gryP5Y1Oe5g

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Re: Captain Marvel
« Reply #54 on: March 18, 2019, 07:05:06 am »
Thanks. I knew some of this history, but I hadn't even paid attention, or thought about the idea of them de-racializing Monica's features. I noticed how DC Comics did this with the villain/antihero Fatality a few years back.

Though this video didn't touch on it, I felt Marvel pushed Storm to the side to make Carol Danvers the top female superhero at Marvel over a decade ago. In a way I get why they did it. Marvel could fully get its money back by promoting Danvers in a way they couldn't when it came to Storm, or the X-Men for that matter. I think Storm was just the beginning of when they started putting the X-Men out to pasture in favor of the Inhumans. It's just the failed movie plans and then the failed television series made Marvel rethink their Inhumans push, and I'm guessing also the opportunity to get the X-Men back as well, also put the Inhumans back on the shelf (ergo, the "Death of the Inhumans" story).

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