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Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2018, 06:09:35 pm »
Responding to Priest review. Ezyo is right, if you read his interviews, things tend not to add up their as well. Tends to overstate.

As far as feats and rescuing, we see the car flip, the group force push, and he rescues Nakia from Killmonger seemingly striking the finishing blow. Obviously they could recut, but its there. lol

Pure speculation, but I would guess that after the final fight T'calla is in one of those both going to die situations and someone help him escape. Which is typical for most movies.
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Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2018, 06:26:27 pm »
Yeah, no offense to Priest but he isn't the best to go off of for critique of the movie. If it ain't his Version 3 steps ahead, he ain't happy. That said he still gave praise from the get go rather then later on so there is that lol

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Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2018, 06:34:16 pm »
Only one line bothers me

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Including rescuing tchalla


But, priest is very "get off my lawn" at times and he didn't like CW at all so.... him having any praise at all is likely a goood thing lol

I mean... i wanna see fights so.... sign me up lol

And priests really smart killmonger tried to eat tge HSH like an apple so.....


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Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2018, 06:43:32 pm »
Only one line bothers me

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Including rescuing tchalla


But, priest is very "get off my lawn" at times and he didn't like CW at all so.... him having any praise at all is likely a goood thing lol

I mean... i wanna see fights so.... sign me up lol

And priests really smart killmonger tried to eat tge HSH like an apple so.....

Yeah I'm curious about that line as well.
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Maybe that has to do with Erik and T'Challa fighting as warrior falls? Maybe Tchalla loses or falls off or something?

Honestly I never saw Erik as a genius. He was smart in an educated sort of way, and not brawn over brains like say  M'Baku. More so Erik is charismatic and a smooth talker and can fight.. [/size][/b]

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Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2018, 06:54:02 pm »
My theory from the very beginning is nakia sacrifices herself to stop killmonger but they never find the bodies

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Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2018, 06:55:24 pm »
My theory from the very beginning is nakia sacrifices herself to stop killmonger but they never find the bodies

Which would be acceptable. That is not rescuing, that is sacrificing yourself for someone you love.

Especially with the standing Killmonger rule that Tchalla hasn't beaten him. Except in that DD you recommended.
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Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2018, 06:57:12 pm »
The lack of Ross sounds extremely promising..
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Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2018, 07:00:00 pm »
Only one line bothers me

Spoiler (click to reveal)
Including rescuing tchalla


But, priest is very "get off my lawn" at times and he didn't like CW at all so.... him having any praise at all is likely a goood thing lol

I mean... i wanna see fights so.... sign me up lol

And priests really smart killmonger tried to eat tge HSH like an apple so.....

Yeah I'm curious about that line as well.
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Maybe that has to do with Erik and T'Challa fighting as warrior falls? Maybe Tchalla loses or falls off or something?

Honestly I never saw Erik as a genius. He was smart in an educated sort of way, and not brawn over brains like say  M'Baku. More so Erik is charismatic and a smooth talker and can fight.. [/size][/b]

Movie or comic version of KM?
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Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2018, 07:15:20 pm »
My theory from the very beginning is nakia sacrifices herself to stop killmonger but they never find the bodies

Which would be acceptable. That is not rescuing, that is sacrificing yourself for someone you love.

Especially with the standing Killmonger rule that Tchalla hasn't beaten him. Except in that DD you recommended.

Its also not unheard of in the mcu

- pepper saves the day in IM
- stark needs Rhodey to win in IM2
- pepper saves the day agsin in IM3
- steve suicided himself in cap and cap 2 lol
- thor needed selvigs gadget in thor 2
- thor needed surtur in thor 3

Plus minor examples in dr strange for instsnce

All depends on how its handled

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Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2018, 07:30:20 pm »
The lack of Ross sounds extremely promising..

I like comic Ross

But anyone expecting him to have a large part in this movie were delusional lol

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Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2018, 09:32:40 pm »
Only one line bothers me

Spoiler (click to reveal)
Including rescuing tchalla


But, priest is very "get off my lawn" at times and he didn't like CW at all so.... him having any praise at all is likely a goood thing lol

I mean... i wanna see fights so.... sign me up lol

And priests really smart killmonger tried to eat tge HSH like an apple so.....

Yeah I'm curious about that line as well.
Spoiler (click to reveal)
Maybe that has to do with Erik and T'Challa fighting as warrior falls? Maybe Tchalla loses or falls off or something?

Honestly I never saw Erik as a genius. He was smart in an educated sort of way, and not brawn over brains like say  M'Baku. More so Erik is charismatic and a smooth talker and can fight.. [/size][/b]

Movie or comic version of KM?

Priest said Creedmongers is an idiot. I never saw kilmonger in comics as a genius. He was educated but it's not like he was some super genius like Tchalla. He was charismatic and fight like a champ

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Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2018, 09:42:55 pm »
The lack of Ross sounds extremely promising..

I like comic Ross

But anyone expecting him to have a large part in this movie were delusional lol

Priest seemed to think fans of his series would ben sorely disappointed that he didn't do much. Honestly Ross is fine I like him but he isn't NEEDED at all. If he didn't appear on the movie at all I wouldn't care at all. And honestly i don't think anyone will be disappointed that MCU Tchalla isn't just like Priest Panther 100% because MCU Panther has a James Bond swagger seen in Hudlins version. Priests version is a Movie 3 type. And still would be. Hard to pull off without making him a guest in the story. And we have seen what that can do to Characters *cough* Blade Trinity *Cough* do careful what someone wishes for.

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Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2018, 05:29:57 am »
I am going to put these in spoiler tags just in case

basically the plot of the movie in short form. if you have been paying attention to trailers most of this isn't TOO spoilery but there are a few things

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>T'Challa goes back to Wakanda after Civil War to become king.

>He wants to open the borders, some Wakandans aren't down for it.

>Lupita Nyong'o is T'Challa's girlfriend and a spy. She locates Klaue in Korea trying to sell Vibranium.

>T'Challa and the bald Dora head there and run into Everett Ross.

>Big casino shootout, T'Challa catches Klaw and surrenders him to Ross.

>Killmonger breaks Klaw out and recruits his help to seize the throne of Wakanda.

>Killmonger allows himself to be capture and is brought before T'Challa. He reveals he's T'Challa's brother and wants the throne. The anti-T'Challa Wakandans back him up. T'Challa and Killmonger fight for the throne, but Killmonger pulls some underhanded bullsh*t to win.

>T'Challa is presumed dead, but survives and teams up with Ross and his family to stop Killmonger from declaring war on the entire planet. Killmonger goes back on whatever deal he had with Klaue and apparently kills him.

>T'Challa visits Necropolis and confers with the spirits of the previous Black Panthers for advice.

>T'Challa convinces Man-Ape to help him. T'Challa and his followers battle Killmonger and his followers in the Vibranium mines. Killmonger has created his own Panther suit. Big battle, Killmonger gets beaten.

>T'Challa regains the throne and goes through with revealing Wakanda to the world.

>Necropolis turns out to be because the Soul Stone is inside the Vibranium meteor that fuels Wakanda.

>Tease that Klaw is alive in sound form.

few other things..


Spoiler (click to reveal)
Sterling K. Brown is playing T'Challa's college professor and he's only in one scene flashing back to T'Challa's education in America.

Killmonger is T'Challa's half-brother and a tragic villain.

The final battle takes place in the Vibranium mines.

T'Challa is betrayed by his best friend played by the GET OUT guy. He reluctantly sides with Killmonger when T'Challa decides to step into the spotlight.

Man-Ape is the leader of an anti-technology, anti-Vibranium tribe that opposes T'Challa, but is not a villain. When Killmonger takes over and wants to plunge all of Wakanda in a needless war against the entire world, Man-Ape teams up with T'Challa to stop him.

No Bucky.

No Avengers cameos.

A lot of stuff I like from this...

Spoiler (click to reveal)
- killmonger cheating to win... T'challa is definitely going over warrior falls lol

- killmonger killing klaue. I asked for that from the beginning!!


one thing I dont like...

Spoiler (click to reveal)
- half brother thing. I guess it gives killmonger the right to the throne but eh

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Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2018, 06:27:29 am »
I am going to put these in spoiler tags just in case

basically the plot of the movie in short form. if you have been paying attention to trailers most of this isn't TOO spoilery but there are a few things

Spoiler (click to reveal)
>T'Challa goes back to Wakanda after Civil War to become king.

>He wants to open the borders, some Wakandans aren't down for it.

>Lupita Nyong'o is T'Challa's girlfriend and a spy. She locates Klaue in Korea trying to sell Vibranium.

>T'Challa and the bald Dora head there and run into Everett Ross.

>Big casino shootout, T'Challa catches Klaw and surrenders him to Ross.

>Killmonger breaks Klaw out and recruits his help to seize the throne of Wakanda.

>Killmonger allows himself to be capture and is brought before T'Challa. He reveals he's T'Challa's brother and wants the throne. The anti-T'Challa Wakandans back him up. T'Challa and Killmonger fight for the throne, but Killmonger pulls some underhanded bullsh*t to win.

>T'Challa is presumed dead, but survives and teams up with Ross and his family to stop Killmonger from declaring war on the entire planet. Killmonger goes back on whatever deal he had with Klaue and apparently kills him.

>T'Challa visits Necropolis and confers with the spirits of the previous Black Panthers for advice.

>T'Challa convinces Man-Ape to help him. T'Challa and his followers battle Killmonger and his followers in the Vibranium mines. Killmonger has created his own Panther suit. Big battle, Killmonger gets beaten.

>T'Challa regains the throne and goes through with revealing Wakanda to the world.

>Necropolis turns out to be because the Soul Stone is inside the Vibranium meteor that fuels Wakanda.

>Tease that Klaw is alive in sound form.

few other things..


Spoiler (click to reveal)
Sterling K. Brown is playing T'Challa's college professor and he's only in one scene flashing back to T'Challa's education in America.

Killmonger is T'Challa's half-brother and a tragic villain.

The final battle takes place in the Vibranium mines.

T'Challa is betrayed by his best friend played by the GET OUT guy. He reluctantly sides with Killmonger when T'Challa decides to step into the spotlight.

Man-Ape is the leader of an anti-technology, anti-Vibranium tribe that opposes T'Challa, but is not a villain. When Killmonger takes over and wants to plunge all of Wakanda in a needless war against the entire world, Man-Ape teams up with T'Challa to stop him.

No Bucky.

No Avengers cameos.

A lot of stuff I like from this...

Spoiler (click to reveal)
- killmonger cheating to win... T'challa is definitely going over warrior falls lol

- killmonger killing klaue. I asked for that from the beginning!!


one thing I dont like...

Spoiler (click to reveal)
- half brother thing. I guess it gives killmonger the right to the throne but eh


Very interesting not really shocked by any of that if it's all Tru..
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Re: Black Panther Movie SPOILER THREAD
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2018, 06:47:54 am »
Yeah those were likely just piecing thing's together. Trailers still did a good job of not spoiling anything.


Not to fond of
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soul stone powering Vibranium,
or being in Wakanda in general. Because then if the Stone is taken then Vibranium becomes inert? Is that going to be a plot in the sequel? I guess that would make Klaw a more threatening villain Because his main weakness is gone. But that can also mean less unique tech.. too many questions lol. Also it means IW it's going to get nuked
but it could of been worse this allows less wiggle room for folks wanting to talk isht.

 
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W'kabi has a chance to redeem himself

Kilmonger being his brother can work, gives him more of a Right to challenge him and allows him to survive the HSH. But childhood friend could also have worked for me
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