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Re: Transformers The biggest hit for 2007
« Reply #120 on: July 10, 2007, 05:46:39 pm »
in the next one, I want Megatron to have his arm cannon back.. and Starscream should have a much bigger role to play..

Yeah they definitely should have delved into Starscream's treacherous nature at least a little bit. Like I said earlier in the thread...the Transformers themselves were basically supporting cast in this flick...
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Re: Transformers The biggest hit for 2007
« Reply #121 on: July 10, 2007, 06:55:52 pm »
in the next one, I want Megatron to have his arm cannon back.. and Starscream should have a much bigger role to play..

Yeah they definitely should have delved into Starscream's treacherous nature at least a little bit. Like I said earlier in the thread...the Transformers themselves were basically supporting cast in this flick...

I was kind of hoping Megatron would have been defeated by Starscream.  Megatrom would have Optimus on the ropes and just when it looks like Starscream was gonna join in the fun, he blasts Megatron from behind.  Would teach Megatron a lesson for being such as bastard to Starscream earlier in the movie.

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Re: Transformers The biggest hit for 2007
« Reply #122 on: July 11, 2007, 12:43:27 pm »
I thought Megatron partially configured into a gun?  Hard to tell with all of the jittery camera work, but I thought that was a tasty bit of homage.. just like his backhanded retort to Starscream, and the visual of the crappy VW Beetle in the car lot a few spaces down from Bumblebee..

Enough for the old-schoolers to get misty-eyed on, without getting embarassed in front of the twenty-somethings...

Actually, the writers stated that Megatron would not transform into a gun. they said they wanted him to change into something more befitting his size. So I guess we got some type of rocket plane.

When I read this I was just like WTF (the writers quote, not the post).  Make him turn into a Stinger Missile Battery or a Javelin-type shoulder launcher that 2 Decepticons have to heft and fire or something of the like -- I don't what it is just as long as it's a gun

I was kind of hoping Megatron would have been defeated by Starscream.  Megatrom would have Optimus on the ropes and just when it looks like Starscream was gonna join in the fun, he blasts Megatron from behind.  Would teach Megatron a lesson for being such as bastard to Starscream earlier in the movie.


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Re: Transformers The biggest hit for 2007
« Reply #123 on: July 14, 2007, 08:01:12 am »
I was already to post something because I thought this said "Transformers: the biggest $hit for 2007"....

but nevermind.... :D

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Re: Transformers The biggest hit for 2007
« Reply #124 on: July 15, 2007, 04:58:34 pm »
To be fair, there are shady, fast-talking used car salesman (Black, White, etc.) who are like Mac's character.  It's not PC to say so, but it's true.

As for Anderson's role, it wasn't his funniest though I was on the floor when he swiftly cracked during the FBI interrogation.  (Hey, not every guy is an action hero.)  Anderson did redeem himself by hotwiring the computer and old transmitter to call in the USAF.  It's nice to see the Black computer geek get a heroic scene.

Another plus in both characters' favor is that they aren't the only Black people in the movie.  If you want a super-tough, smart hero, Tyrese's USAF character fit the bill nicely.  That range is normally lacking in action films, which are normally content with one Black token in an otherwise White world.  So, that is a step forward for Michael Bay and his ilk.


I just watched this week's installment of “Ebert & Roeper”.  On the show the critic Dave Karger from Entertainment Weekly commented about how he was offended that the African American males were depicted as "raving lunatics".  If even a White critic can note the offensive nature of the characters, then I would have to conclude that the criticism has merit.  My opinion is still that the over the top stereotypical characters did not fit into this kind of kid friendly summer film.  If it was a satirical black comedy, I would feel differently about the characters appearance.   
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Re: Transformers The biggest hit for 2007
« Reply #125 on: July 15, 2007, 10:26:43 pm »
To be fair, there are shady, fast-talking used car salesman (Black, White, etc.) who are like Mac's character.  It's not PC to say so, but it's true.

As for Anderson's role, it wasn't his funniest though I was on the floor when he swiftly cracked during the FBI interrogation.  (Hey, not every guy is an action hero.)  Anderson did redeem himself by hotwiring the computer and old transmitter to call in the USAF.  It's nice to see the Black computer geek get a heroic scene.

Another plus in both characters' favor is that they aren't the only Black people in the movie.  If you want a super-tough, smart hero, Tyrese's USAF character fit the bill nicely.  That range is normally lacking in action films, which are normally content with one Black token in an otherwise White world.  So, that is a step forward for Michael Bay and his ilk.


I just watched this week's installment of “Ebert & Roeper”.  On the show the critic Dave Karger from Entertainment Weekly commented about how he was offended that the African American males were depicted as "raving lunatics".  If even a White critic can note the offensive nature of the characters, then I would have to conclude that the criticism has merit.  My opinion is still that the over the top stereotypical characters did not fit into this kind of kid friendly summer film.  If it was a satirical black comedy, I would feel differently about the characters appearance.   

You do realize this was a Michael Bay film, right? :D

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Re: Transformers The biggest hit for 2007
« Reply #126 on: July 16, 2007, 08:37:12 am »
To be fair, there are shady, fast-talking used car salesman (Black, White, etc.) who are like Mac's character.  It's not PC to say so, but it's true.

As for Anderson's role, it wasn't his funniest though I was on the floor when he swiftly cracked during the FBI interrogation.  (Hey, not every guy is an action hero.)  Anderson did redeem himself by hotwiring the computer and old transmitter to call in the USAF.  It's nice to see the Black computer geek get a heroic scene.

Another plus in both characters' favor is that they aren't the only Black people in the movie.  If you want a super-tough, smart hero, Tyrese's USAF character fit the bill nicely.  That range is normally lacking in action films, which are normally content with one Black token in an otherwise White world.  So, that is a step forward for Michael Bay and his ilk.


I just watched this week's installment of “Ebert & Roeper”.  On the show the critic Dave Karger from Entertainment Weekly commented about how he was offended that the African American males were depicted as "raving lunatics".  If even a White critic can note the offensive nature of the characters, then I would have to conclude that the criticism has merit.  My opinion is still that the over the top stereotypical characters did not fit into this kind of kid friendly summer film.  If it was a satirical black comedy, I would feel differently about the characters appearance.   

I have to admit when Anderson's buddy crashed thru the glass door to get away, I laughed my ass off.

That said, you've got a point. I've got far more problems with Bernie Mac's character clowinsh used car dealer than I do A. Anderson's cowardly hacker (Kevin Smith plays the EXACT SAME CHARACTER in Live Free or Die Harder) .

Otherwise, I'm kinda disappointed with this movie. The camera never slows down enough to allow the viewer to see the fighting, The Autobots are supporting characters to the human characters (who I didn't give a rat's ass about) and not enough Starscream. 

Starscream's treacherous back and forth with Megatron is one of Transformers better set pieces.

I STILL like the animated flick better than this, whch suprises even me.

Hope the sequel will be better.   

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Re: Transformers The biggest hit for 2007
« Reply #127 on: July 17, 2007, 08:17:38 pm »
To be fair, there are shady, fast-talking used car salesman (Black, White, etc.) who are like Mac's character.  It's not PC to say so, but it's true.

As for Anderson's role, it wasn't his funniest though I was on the floor when he swiftly cracked during the FBI interrogation.  (Hey, not every guy is an action hero.)  Anderson did redeem himself by hotwiring the computer and old transmitter to call in the USAF.  It's nice to see the Black computer geek get a heroic scene.

Another plus in both characters' favor is that they aren't the only Black people in the movie.  If you want a super-tough, smart hero, Tyrese's USAF character fit the bill nicely.  That range is normally lacking in action films, which are normally content with one Black token in an otherwise White world.  So, that is a step forward for Michael Bay and his ilk.


I just watched this week's installment of “Ebert & Roeper”.  On the show the critic Dave Karger from Entertainment Weekly commented about how he was offended that the African American males were depicted as "raving lunatics".  If even a White critic can note the offensive nature of the characters, then I would have to conclude that the criticism has merit.  My opinion is still that the over the top stereotypical characters did not fit into this kind of kid friendly summer film.  If it was a satirical black comedy, I would feel differently about the characters appearance.   

I have to admit when Anderson's buddy crashed thru the glass door to get away, I laughed my ass off.

That said, you've got a point. I've got far more problems with Bernie Mac's character clowinsh used car dealer than I do A. Anderson's cowardly hacker (Kevin Smith plays the EXACT SAME CHARACTER in Live Free or Die Harder) .

Otherwise, I'm kinda disappointed with this movie. The camera never slows down enough to allow the viewer to see the fighting, The Autobots are supporting characters to the human characters (who I didn't give a rat's ass about) and not enough Starscream. 

Starscream's treacherous back and forth with Megatron is one of Transformers better set pieces.

I STILL like the animated flick better than this, whch suprises even me.

Hope the sequel will be better.   

Hmmm. Frank Miller hates costumed superheroes. Michael Bay hates giant robots?
Frank Miller creates negative black characters. Jazz got killed in this film. Are we getting the right people for this job?
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Re: Transformers The biggest hit for 2007
« Reply #128 on: July 18, 2007, 09:10:47 am »
To be fair, there are shady, fast-talking used car salesman (Black, White, etc.) who are like Mac's character.  It's not PC to say so, but it's true.

As for Anderson's role, it wasn't his funniest though I was on the floor when he swiftly cracked during the FBI interrogation.  (Hey, not every guy is an action hero.)  Anderson did redeem himself by hotwiring the computer and old transmitter to call in the USAF.  It's nice to see the Black computer geek get a heroic scene.

Another plus in both characters' favor is that they aren't the only Black people in the movie.  If you want a super-tough, smart hero, Tyrese's USAF character fit the bill nicely.  That range is normally lacking in action films, which are normally content with one Black token in an otherwise White world.  So, that is a step forward for Michael Bay and his ilk.


I just watched this week's installment of “Ebert & Roeper”.  On the show the critic Dave Karger from Entertainment Weekly commented about how he was offended that the African American males were depicted as "raving lunatics".  If even a White critic can note the offensive nature of the characters, then I would have to conclude that the criticism has merit.  My opinion is still that the over the top stereotypical characters did not fit into this kind of kid friendly summer film.  If it was a satirical black comedy, I would feel differently about the characters appearance.   

I have to admit when Anderson's buddy crashed thru the glass door to get away, I laughed my ass off.

That said, you've got a point. I've got far more problems with Bernie Mac's character clowinsh used car dealer than I do A. Anderson's cowardly hacker (Kevin Smith plays the EXACT SAME CHARACTER in Live Free or Die Harder) .

Otherwise, I'm kinda disappointed with this movie. The camera never slows down enough to allow the viewer to see the fighting, The Autobots are supporting characters to the human characters (who I didn't give a rat's ass about) and not enough Starscream. 

Starscream's treacherous back and forth with Megatron is one of Transformers better set pieces.

I STILL like the animated flick better than this, whch suprises even me.

Hope the sequel will be better.   

Hmmm. Frank Miller hates costumed superheroes. Michael Bay hates giant robots?
Frank Miller creates negative black characters. Jazz got killed in this film. Are we getting the right people for this job?

I'm way more pissed that they used all GMC cars (Bumblebee is a VW Bug, DAMMIT! ;D) than I am about them offing Robo-brother Jazz(who was supposed to be a Porsche, IRRC).

BTW, what exactly did A. Anthony's Master Hacker do after being sprung by the Feds?
He kinda disappears from the movie.   

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Re: Transformers The biggest hit for 2007
« Reply #129 on: July 18, 2007, 09:37:35 am »
Well, Anthony Anderson was the one who sent the morse code via the mcguyver'd computer.

and i wasn't a fan of the voice work for Jazz.  he was over the top "hip hop" and that didnt sit well for me. it sucked that he died, but that wasn't the real jazz anyway.

the friend who ran thru the glass window was hella funny. i wasn't embarrassed as a black man by that scene. i'm glad that dude got some work since 8 mile.

Starscream went out like a biya.. well, like starscream.  When the situation got hot, that muthasucka get out of dodge.  i didnt know starscream was capable of space flight.  Don't they knew somebody like AstroTrain to get them around in space>?

And I didn't mind GMC having the exclusive vehicle rights for this movie.  I'm a purists on certain things, but since it's 2007, i can accept that things change.
i wouldn't want 1980s vehicles in a 2007 movie.
yes, they could have gotten the new bug, but... that wouldn't have been visually pleasing to me.
The new Bumblebee was a soldier and he had a good luck.

i'm lookin' forward to a sequel.
i think i liked Die hard 4 better.

And for the most part, the car-to-robot scale was okay.  Some worst than others, but frenzy was good until he became a phone.  i wasn't feeling that.
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Re: Transformers The biggest hit for 2007
« Reply #130 on: July 18, 2007, 10:12:58 am »
Poor Eddie Winslow...but I figure Ratchet is a field surgeon, and therefore doesn't have the expertise to bring someone back to like like a Frankenstein scientist would. That would be WHEELJACK'S territory, so hopefully he'll be in the sequel and revive Jazz. And somehow switch Bernie Mac's voice for Eddie Winslow's.

I wish they had kept Arcee in the movie. There's designs for her and they toy is coming out based off of those designs (should be by the end of this month or the beginning of next month, so look for them!), and I think she would have been a cool addition. The Decepticons had  a tiny fighter in Frenzy, so the Autobots having a counterpart in Arcee (since she's a motorcycle she would have been roughly the same height as an average height man) would have been cool. But there's always the sequel.
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Re: Transformers The biggest hit for 2007
« Reply #131 on: July 21, 2007, 02:43:39 am »
...still have not seen it.


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Re: Transformers The biggest hit for 2007
« Reply #132 on: July 21, 2007, 07:36:35 am »
i just wanted optimus to say, "Autobots...transform... and roll out!"
i dont think he EVER said the complete phrase.


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Re: Transformers The biggest hit for 2007
« Reply #133 on: July 21, 2007, 09:03:00 am »
i just wanted optimus to say, "Autobots...transform... and roll out!"
i dont think he EVER said the complete phrase.
I wanted that too. Instead he said shyte like "my bad." WTF?

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Re: Transformers The biggest hit for 2007
« Reply #134 on: July 21, 2007, 10:06:35 am »
yeah, that kinda got under my skin.
i thought "my bad" was just some crap used in the gmc commercials


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