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Re: Lady Antebellum are changing their name to Lady A
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2020, 01:25:26 pm »
Tuesday, 14th July 2o2o




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Sirtriz
July 13, 2020 at 9:48 am

Because they are so renown (or were, because it is doubtful they are going to recover from the damage they have caused themselves) their use of “Lady A” will overshadow her in social media, internet searches, etc. She is just happy making a modest living as Lady A the blues singer, a personal and profession identity she has had for decades, yet their stardom status will completely wipe out her modest living and literally who she is as a person. It is completely pertinent that racist white people feel they are entitled to trample over a black person’s dignity…it speaks to how oppressed and second class black people have felt over decades. If LadyAntiBLM had any class or sincerity, they would have changed their name entirely, but no, they are still clueless people.


Sirtriz
July 13, 2020 at 10:00 am

She doesn’t even want the money…she wants her name all to herself, not overshadowed by the machine of the country music industry. She and her lawyers put a price on it because, truly, isn’t your personal and professional identity actually priceless? Especially when another party has no regard to how they will oppress it? She just wants them to give up the use of her name. If they did that, no money is necessary to her.



Sirtriz
July 13, 2020 at 10:08 am

How was she supposed to know they were trademarking that name? Did they have the decency to research if someone else was using it? Did they notify her to ask? She doesn’t even want the money…she wants her name all to herself, not overshadowed by the machine of the country music industry. She and her lawyers (probably mostly her lawyers, because she probably isn’t a savvy legal person who deals with lawyers all the time) put a price on it because, truly, isn’t your personal and professional identity actually priceless? Especially when another party has no regard to how they will oppress it? There is nothing equitable about what Lady Antebellum proposed. She just wants them to give up the use of her name. If they did that, no money is necessary to her. But to her credit she did want to put a significant portion to charity and figured shouldn’t Lady Antebellum, if they were sincere, want to do the same? But they aren’t sincere…they are clueless.


Bruce
July 10, 2020 at 4:21 pm

More of the same. White folks exploiting black folks. Lady aAnnellum effectively ruined their career.



Ashley J. Williams
July 12, 2020 at 8:11 pm

At lefty fascism, falsely accusing others of -isms, and harassing people for their thoughtcrime? Yes, you are better at that.

No argument here…






Patrick Clark
July 13, 2020 at 7:56 pm

I’m a person of color and worked on two different country radio stations since 1988. The last one for 26 years before COVID. I personally had no idea Antebellum had a derogatory meaning. We and many radio personalities have been calling Lady Antebellum Lady A for short for years. I have met them on several occasions and NEVER felt they were in anyway a band that was not upstanding and had any biases in any way. To suggest so without knowing them is irresponsible.



CK
July 13, 2020 at 12:05 pm

Lady AntiBLM shot themselves in both feet. 1) The change to Lady A was completely insincere because it was ascribed no meaning and thus still recalls their true name 2) This lawsuit is the bullet in the other foot (they should have paid her a few mil quickly) giving them a very bad look. They’re not too bright these bigoted “country” crackers (all bigots aren’t too bright). They’re also desperate to hang on to Lady Antebellum disguised as Lady A because they know that their sugarless lite pop music on its own will be forgotten and won’t be on a detergent ad in the future.



johnesh
July 13, 2020 at 4:15 am

They should have changed their name to Lady Postbellum.




Larry Davis
July 12, 2020 at 5:44 am

This is so stupid.!!! Again, just a whole lot about nothing where certain people try to stir up and hold on to anything to keep the controversy alive. I am still trying to figure out who is the racist here.??? I can assure you it is not The Band. How much more of a demand must be met to pacify people.??? With this nonsense we will never be able to accommodate everyone in order to reach a common goal



Nate
July 13, 2020 at 7:23 pm

There was a write-in campaign over five years ago to the band advising them of the pre-civil-war antecedent meaning of “Antebellum.” The recent decision to change its name was not from new knowledge.



Nate
July 13, 2020 at 7:32 pm

White only asked for her name, which is tied to her identity, which is 100% her branding. The band sued her and she has to muster a way to defend herself. She is a performer who has not had the help of an agent, attorney, management, or mentor. Without these resources she still built a good fan base in the west and south of the US as well as France, the Netherlands, and Sweden. Few of us could do so well without professional help.



Nate
July 13, 2020 at 7:09 pm

As one who has trademarks and over 100 copyrights, laws for branding are not that simplistic. White has demonstrated branding since 1987. Again, your comments reinforce both the establishment’s favor to those with resources and special training and a dismissive credit to a singer who without help established herself substantially on two continents in a genre that generally doesn’t make popular radio. She just lacks a hit song. The music business is difficult and very weird with many gate keepers. The band writes enjoyable songs and got lucky. However, they did not act in good faith with White, had no intent to find common ground, and opened with an ultimatum for their plan or nothing. The recent decision to change the official name what was not prompted by a discovery because they knew at least five years ago when people wrote the band requesting a name change for the same reason. Perhaps the death of George Floyd just made the message louder.














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Re: Lady Antebellum are changing their name to Lady A
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2020, 11:11:55 am »
Friday, 17th July 2o2o
Lady A, the singer says 'co-existence will not work'
by NBC News





Singer Anita White, also known as Lady A, released a statement over the weekend saying that the country group of the same name — formerly known as Lady Antebellum —

“has used their wealth and influence to intimidate and bully me into submission without offering any real recompense for appropriating my name.”

Says White,

“It is now clear that their apologies, friendly texts, and playing on my love of God were just insincere gestures aimed at quieting me. Well, I will not be quiet any longer.”

White had made her views clear earlier in the week in interviews with Vulture and Rolling Stone, but the 790-word statement represents her first full expression of her feelings about the breakdown in negotiations with the band in her own words.

Although the group Lady A had sought an agreement in which both artists could freely use the name, the singer Lady A explains why she has resisted that, and says in her statement that

“co-existence will simply not work.”

“My fans used to be able to listen to my music on streaming services; now they struggle to find me,” she claims.

Initially, White suggested the possibility of separating their identities as “Lady A The Artist” and “Lady A The Band,” but she says now that her latest proposal to the group was that she would adopt a different stage name altogether.

And she acknowledges the group’s claim earlier in the week that she asked for $10 million to grant them full rights to use the name, saying she was going to use it in part to re-brand herself and partly for charity.

“I asked for $5 million to compensate me for this loss, and to help me rebuild under a new name,” she writes.

“I also asked that they donate $5 million to a charity so that we could work together to promote racial equality. It was my impression from our communications that this would appeal to Hillary, Charles, and Dave. I guess I was wrong. Their refusal to come to an agreement that would be respectful of my work and my rights, however, has given me the clarity and the drive to not back down.”

In mentioning that the band had come to realize that the word “antebellum” had unavoidable connotations with the slavery era, White says that their use of the new name is “only less overtly racist.”

“Given the way that Hillary, Charles, and Dave have treated me,” she writes,

“I am not surprised that they used the name Lady Antebellum for so long or that their cure is to adopt a name that is only less overtly racist. The A in their name stands for Antebellum and always will. If they are truly committed to racial equality, why do they want to maintain that association, especially when it means making a public, intentional stand to disregard me and my rights? … It is absurd that Lady Antebellum has chosen to show its commitment to racial equality by taking the name of a Black woman, particularly in this time when we are reminded every day to “Say Her Name.” It is one more demonstration of what continues to be taken away from us in the present.”

On July 8th, the group Lady A announced that it was suing White in the state of Tennessee, taking pains to say that it was not asking for any monetary damages, but asking the court to declare that both artists could continue using the name without interference or reprisal from the other.

Lady A’s attorneys say in the lawsuit that the group had used the shortened version of Lady Antebellum as a nickname in merch and on web pages going back to 2006, had filed for a trademark in 2010 and been granted it in 2011.

The band says all this happened without ever hearing from or of Lady A, the Seattle-based blues singer, and says she was obscure enough that she had not come to their attention until after they announced their name change in early June.

Lady A, the group, has taken considerable fire from all sides since announcing the name change.

Some country music fans continue to insist there was nothing innately offensive about the term “antebellum,” and many conservatives who thought the group gave in to “virtue signaling” by abandoning the original name are openly enjoying seeing the group take heat from critics on the left, too.

Following is White’s complete statement:




“Black Lives, Names, Experiences, Work, Art – They All Matter.”

July 10, 2020, Seattle, WA

“I first heard about Lady Antebellum’s planned name change after they went public on June 11, 2020, at which point I was shocked and taken aback.

During initial calls with the members of the band — Hillary Scott, Charles Kelley, and Dave Haywood — I hoped that we could reach an agreement that left both sides whole.

Lady Antebellum understood that their use of ‘Antebellum’ was offensive and that their adoption of Lady A harms me, as I have been using the name professionally for over 30 years.

Though they recognized their impact, Lady Antebellum has not been receptive to my proposals for correcting their infringement, unfortunately.

It has already been demonstrated why co-existence will simply not work.

My fans used to be able to listen to my music on streaming services; now they struggle to find me.

Due to Lady Antebellum’s massive rebranding efforts, Lady Antebellum has erased me from every platform.

Lady Antebellum has used their wealth and influence to intimidate and bully me into submission without offering any real recompense for appropriating my name.

It is now clear that their apologies, friendly texts, and playing on my love of God were just insincere gestures aimed at quieting me.

Well, I will not be quiet any longer.

After being called out for taking my name, Lady Antebellum and their team of publicists and attorneys are doing what many folks of privilege do when asked to cease and desist bad behavior.

Hillary, Charles, and Dave are attempting to change the narrative by minimizing my voice and belittling my experience as an artist — as if having a lot of money gives them permission to tread on my rights.

I have worked too long and too hard to just give my name away.

The band’s decision to change their name to Lady A follows the trend of many other groups and organizations working to distance themselves from racism in the wake of the uprisings in this post-George Floyd world.

Someone finally told them — or perhaps they knew all along and didn’t care until now — that their name reminds Black folks of just how much was taken from us in the past:

our lives, freedom, languages, families, and, yes, our names.

It is absurd that Lady Antebellum has chosen to show its commitment to racial equality by taking the name of a Black woman, particularly in this time when we are reminded every day to ‘Say Her Name.’

It is one more demonstration of what continues to be taken away from us in the present.

Given the way that Hillary, Charles, and Dave have treated me, I am not surprised that they used the name Lady Antebellum for so long or that their cure is to adopt a name that is only less overtly racist.

The A in their name stands for Antebellum and always will.

If they are truly committed to racial equality, why do they want to maintain that association, especially when it means making a public, intentional stand to disregard me and my rights?

Lady A is my identity — and it has been since 1987.

I want to be able to freely use my brand that I spent decades building.

I do not want to part with it.

It is particularly painful to me, as a Black woman, to lose my name in THIS time and place so Lady Antebellum can use it as shorthand to celebrate a time and place connected to and very heavily reliant upon slavery.

I asked for $5 million to compensate me for this loss, and to help me rebuild under a new name.

I also asked that they donate $5 million to a charity so that we could work together to promote racial equality.

It was my impression from our communications that this would appeal to Hillary, Charles, and Dave.

I guess I was wrong.

“Their refusal to come to an agreement that would be respectful of my work and my rights, however, has given me the clarity and the drive to not back down.

Black lives, names, experiences, work, art — they all matter.

Fellow independent artists have reached out to me to share their stories of name feuds that they lost because they were on the opposite side of big money and privilege.

Not only will I not be one of them, but I am hopeful that this fight for what is rightfully mine will help those damaged by this type of bullying and erasure in the past, and that it will prevent it from happening in the future.

I will not allow Lady Antebellum to obliterate me and my career so they can look ‘woke’ to their fans.”




















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